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If there's no history of it, I'm objectively right. Yeah, that's how it works. I mean, yeah
Yep, correct until proven incorrect. You can also be objectively doing up too many buttons on a button-up shirt
You look like a dork. I mean undo one. Yeah, that feels ridiculous one
Ridiculous look at look at my the entire the entire country of Italy
It's like why are you being such a prude still?
still What are the buttons even for?
Don't use the buttons are to undo so you can show off your thick gold chains. Oh, I don't have any gold chains
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But Luke has no chest hair undone. I do you're gonna say there is two chest hairs
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Cool should we do this thing we are a little late today because I was shooting a video what?
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The update is that this fall has been
Unseasonably fair So the shop is not
unbusy yet So they're not working on it yet. I still believe they will at some point
Be great
Sure, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen
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Perceiving the world around you in an instant with the supermobility of a robot
Sharing in the vibrant moments of your life and could transform into your personal camera
Capturing every precious memory with precision. What kind of device could this be okay a phone?
Honor robot phone
It's a phone with a camera camera on it
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Like to think that the question mark stands for WTF is this it's like WTF is this phone
Yeah, and that's the name of the product It works for me. I like it
It's good good product products should be confusing
Okay, what their value is should be confusing
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Just yeah one quick thing
Then we can start the show Oh
Yeah, okay, so why don't we yeah, why don't we get started?
Alright, I'm the one who's supposed to I always forget. How do I always forget that I'm the one who resumes the selected
Some things are just meant to always be I've started the show for
Ever yeah, that hasn't always been the method it's just been the method for I
Don't know seven years
Somewhere around there some plus or minus one I think And
Really bad timing for this bad mythology announced their
December team tournament and
so everyone in their dog is out there like
Recruiting teams and doing stuff and it's like the middle of the day on a Friday and I'm super busy and I'm going out of town
And I'm just like
How's he gonna do that how's he gonna know like what yeah, like I could find a team
It's just like I wanted to build a team this year. I wanted to optimize the team and that's clearly not gonna be happening
Frustrated so I'm probably just gonna miss it this year
That sucks. Yeah You
Should pre-range a tournament for next Computex like in Taiwan. Yeah
That would be a lot of work and I will not be doing get buddy to do it
I'm sure he'd do it that will not be necessary and the last thing I need to do is compete in a tournament in Taiwan
The level of play is Very high there. I playing against me would be a waste of time
Hey, yeah, are we gonna crushing me would not be worth the effort. However small that effort would be
Yeah, are we gonna do Something for Halloween when oh, I don't know hello, man
Hello, man. I like
We could replace you with skeletons and then have you do the VO off-camera
It's so funny, but it would be so bad. Yeah, it would just be a still frame
You could pop it you could sit under the table get some beanbags or something little sticks on the wrists
That would actually be pretty funny if we had like monitors under the table so we could see what it looked like
I mean, we could do that for the intro of the show and then you could rip them out
Actually sit down Pretty funny
I Way on upside down from perfusion. It's kind of fun
What oh, it's a flip link on it
It should make all of these wrinkly that should be our okay, so we're way ahead of you there. It's a trick
Yeah, but make it even worse Yeah
You guys should swap chairs Spooky they look the same
Yeah, but it'd be spooky. Yeah, I guess
wrecked my thing I
Often do it. It was not me this time. Hmm. Okay. Well, it's fixed now
Do they know too bad Okay, what are they what are they gonna do about it?
True They could stop
Sure, and would that work well for them? How much more attention do you think this gets on the chair?
To be honest, yeah, like like way more They would actually have to be brain-dead to get so mad about this that they stop sponsoring the land show
There's no way I should be able to fix it like
Oh
Now Luke's broken. All right, now that doesn't work. No, I can fix it
There oh nice good, that's do that's too much there
All right, let's let's do this thing. I'm gonna do it
We're doing the selected now, okay
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Happy Friday everyone and oh welcome to the WAN Show we've got a great show lined up for you guys this week
Do we know
It'll be fine cabcom apparently doesn't see the value in bringing back their original games
That's telling. No. No, okay. There is more to it than that. It's not it
No, no, no, no, it's not like it's not like that
Also, the pixel 10 pro fold has gotten a little spicy going up in smoke
I think smoke is actually a charitable way of describing it during Jerry rig everything's bend test
What else we got going on this week? Did Phillips abandon us?
Phillips Phillips. He tried to pitch this for the title topic for the entire WAN Show. Are you that are you that is there?
Phillips Like the light bulb and shaver company not caring about their old games just like almost every other game studio
Okay, what else we got I Don't know you want to talk about the rock for the fourth time. No, it's got to be this one
Oh, yeah, sure chappy chat GPT blue the loses
It's darn mind if you ask it about a seahorse emoji. It's pretty funny. It is pretty funny
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Which is of course the pixel 10 pro fold causing the first
Major phone blowing up controversy since what man, what was it the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 way back in the day?
Although in fairness to oh, you're doing that already. No, no, don't do that now do that later
Do that later do that later. Okay. Okay. Okay during Zach from Jerry rig everything's durability testing of the pixel 10 pro fold
He was able to break the phone close to the hinge with his hands. I mean
Okay, in fairness in fairness to the pixel 10 pro fold. Have you seen that man's arms?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean if I didn't know that he was a tech youtuber
I would think he was like a gym bro. There's a few out youtuber jacked tech youtubers. Yeah, I know
Yeah, I don't really get it. I well actually I think I do get it. You know how
Every time you're going through like a bit of a health kick you say to yourself, okay, I've got an idea
Every time I die in game or every time I you're saying we're all really bad a game fail an overclock
Right, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do five push-ups. Are you the best at games then?
I think that what are you because I'm in great shape. No, no, no what I think is I think
those like jacked Geeks and nerds are the ones who actually have the discipline to do it because every time I've ever come up with that idea
I've done it like once and then
No, I'll like I'll like die and I'll be like, oh, yeah, but like I'll be like I'm responding in like five seconds
I'll just and then I just completely don't do it You need an additional layer of discipline, which is to play a game that actually works for it
Yeah, oh dude and like it's one of those catch 22s, right?
Because if I had the discipline to be disciplined enough to work out while I'm gaming I
Wouldn't need that discipline because I would already have the discipline to just work out
Come on it's the same kind of discipline To force yourself to not do the thing you want to do so you can eat your vegetables, you know
So you can do the thing you know you're supposed to be doing. I think it's a little different
You think it's different things a little different location changing is a heck of a thing
I think it's honestly for me. It's playing the game that
Accommodates that better for me every game accommodates that
No, I'm pretty bad at video games. What if you're playing like okay? You bring up Counter-Strike all the time
What if you're playing Counter-Strike, but it's like oh dude, I could do dude, but it's like free for all
I would at my my well. Yeah, but still you're just gonna instant spawn
No, you'll you'll still have match in between matches and stuff. That's it takes a little while you got a some of them
I don't think and you got to see everybody's beautiful gun skins standing on their little podium and everything at the end of the round
I'm not talking about matchmaking. I'm talking about like server browser free for all. Oh, I'm okay sure
But even then when there's a map change, I think there's like a like a winner thing not very calm
Then you should do really fast push-ups I
Don't think that's a valid excuse There are definitely games or there's an enough time between
Anyway after repeated bends the battery apparently became so compromised that it went up in
Smoke and we've got a very very very brief
Marvel television ad one moment, please. Does anybody care anymore? No
Well, yes, but yeah
Okay, that's all I'm gonna show you you gotta go watch because you're gonna have to go watch the video on his channel
Yeah, yeah great video loves act does great work
Wow, this is the first phone that has failed in this way during Zach's durability testing
I fixed it's Elizabeth Chamberlain told the verge though as
Dramatic as the battery fire is we don't think this is necessarily a sign that something is wrong with the pixel 10 pro fold
Design and something that some random person on reddit
I don't have the citation here because it's not in my notes also noticed that was that the phone was
Seemingly fully charged when Zach performed his Bend test and the amount of charge the charge state of the battery
Impacts directly how much energy is stored in it and therefore what the risk of catastrophic failure could be
Until I would I would I would tend to agree until we start seeing more of these
A more of these failures in the wild I wouldn't necessarily go. Yeah, that's why you shouldn't buy a pixel 10 pro fold
I Would say there's plenty of other reasons not to buy a pixel 10 pro fold
It's just it's gotten it's gotten ridiculous Luke. It's too
Expensive and to be clear this applies equally to Samsung's folding devices
Like we're talking about by the time, you know, we account for currency conversion, but even in US dollars
We're talking about devices that by the time you you know pay sales tax on them
They're getting dangerously close to a couple thousand US dollars. I mean, you know for us
We're talking well over twenty five hundred Canadian dollars for a phone. Like when did this happen?
With the folds mostly I mean phone prices have been creeping slightly, but I honestly don't think for a while there there was a
It feels like there was a relatively big jump a while ago and since then they've been
Relatively flat. I think that big jump from my perspective though might have been pixels trying to catch up with Apple pricing
So I know there was news articles coming out talking about how
Google was Perceiving that their phones were valued as lower than iPhones because the price was lower
So they actually raised the price for like marketing reasons also because it's nice to raise your price
But like yeah, part of it was legitimately being like no look we want to be in the same category
I don't know if that's the entire problem Google. I
Yeah, I think the problem is one man. Okay, this is an interesting conversation
How would you fix? Google's branding and positioning issue and to be clear
I'm not saying that it's a universal problem like what's Android's market share in like India
It's like 90% or something like that. I don't I don't know that that number is quite right
but it's like extremely one-sided in certain markets towards Android, but
specifically in the US for younger US buyers Apple is
dominant like absolutely completely dominant and
Not because the price is higher the price is higher so that Apple can be very profitable on all the iPhones that they sell to young Americans
The reason that they're able to commend this pricing is because of the brand association that quite frankly
Google just doesn't have Google doesn't have a sexy
brand and because of the way that Apple
locks in their users through their social lives and
You know not just in ways that you and I would kind of
mock Where people will be socially ostracized for not having an iPhone because that's the dumbest thing ever
But in ways that are are even more effective than that like it's not just the color of the bubble
It's the fact that you know if you're the one person who doesn't have an iPhone then your group chats
You know won't work properly or whatever else and
Theoretically that is you know addressed through RCS, but I don't know what your experience has been like with RCS
Mine's been a little bit inconsistent and it fails over to
classic SMS or MMS on
Not a frequent basis, but on a sometimes basis on a more than I don't have a data connection right now basis
So it's just not quite It it's not quite there the vast majority of people I talked to these days
Converse over discord to the point where like I know an entire company that I work with closely often works entirely through
discord All of their employees talk through discord a
Lot of the creators that I'll talk to you for full playing at whatever else
Like to converse through discord more than anything else Well, the thing is that discord is multi-platform. That's always been my issue with I mess
That's what I'm kind of saying is like I don't actually run into this very often Right because not a ton of people that I talked to use texting. You're not a teenage American boy
It's weird that they're going back to texting Look, I don't I don't get it either because to me the simple fact that an app is not multi-platform
makes it utterly irrelevant because I won't always be on that platform and
It makes sense that in your social circle
The the platform of choice would be discord because basically any gamer would have that exact same problem
You're not gonna be on your MacBook or your iPad or your iPhone while you're playing video games
A lot of these people are professionals with like their photos like them in business attire and
Their name is like their first name and then the business that they work for
Okay, but are the gamers? I don't know to be honest. Oh, okay. That's fair enough like actually genuinely. Don't know maybe
That's fair enough, but I guess what I'm trying to say is okay
The I definitely see it for the gamer demographic, but even if you just have to use a Windows laptop for work then yeah
It's like automatically the second you have to use any device
That is not a Mac or an I something then you just it did you just you can't just have all of your correspondences
sequestered onto one Ecosystem of devices if you ever have to touch another ecosystem Nepal is using it for voting for their country's leader
And they were using it for coordinating discord. Yeah, and they were using it for coordinating. They're like
Uprising is that the right term hopefully oh
Yeah, I mean discord was the primary thing used there Wow
But like what I'm what I'm wondering if I'm detecting is if Android nerds
use discord It's like what's the most popular type of phone in Nepal, I mean it's not America so Android probably
That's what I'm assuming. Yeah, I
Don't know that you will That's great. I'll plow down in Floatplane chat says you mean literal discord
Yes Yeah Wow an AI overview guess I just won't read that. Yeah, that's my new thing
I don't even know if it's new maybe I've even talked about it before but I am trying to have the discipline to not even read them
Nice, I know you can disable them. I know you can disable them my general approach to using services operating systems
Devices is that I try to leave things pretty close to default because I'm trying to have the default user experience for the most part
So I have left them enabled, but that doesn't mean that I can't
Discipline myself to not read them, but I want to know how Google search is generally working for most people as just a professional curiosity
Sorry, what it what were we looking at there? Apple was 25%
Okay, so Xiaomi is 21 and a half Samsung is 20 and then it's real me vivo unknown, right all the all the rest. Yeah. Yeah, yeah
Makes sense
So That's it a pixel 10 pro fold blew up
Honestly, I think the bigger issue is just pricing and I have no idea how this gets fixed because I
Mean Apple keeps being rumored To be working on a folding phone as well
And I could see Apple moving into folding phones pushing them into the mainstream more
increasing the volumes of these of these screens that need to be produced and therefore
Making them overall more affordable for everyone like I could I could see that being something that could
cause them to become more affordable and more mainstream, but
While one of the theories out there is that the iPhone air is kind of a first attempt at moving to
Like a thinner phone design so that Apple can eventually make a folding device. I
Just don't really know if I just don't really know if I see it happening anytime soon
like it's been rumored for so long and
It's been very clear what the issues with folding devices are and those issues are not going away
And all of that's been going on for so long that I just don't really see the light at the end of the tunnel
Like the issues are clearly around durability
hinge quality
Scratch resistance of the screen like you've got you've got on the very very high end of Android
You've got these folding devices that you can you know almost scratch with a fingernail at a point
And then you've got Apple that's shipping devices that have screens that are so flipping hard that you know
Zach also Zach from Jerry Rigg everything had to kind of change his his little spiel about
You know lightly scratches and they we moved a whole we moved a whole level up on most scale of hardness, which is
Yeah, pretty darn cool. Yeah, so are they gonna give up those gains?
for what So that they can sell fewer iPads
People that I know that have folding phones end up just using the like
Skinny main screen well when you're typing it's better
Like I I daily the full three four Typing is better a lot of times you just need to respond to something quickly and then put your phone away
Yep, so you don't want to unfold it and go through this whole process. You just want to answer quickly, but I mean
But the big screen I mean, it's it's great for work and it's great for remote desktop. It's great for content consumption
It's great for reading which I'm also content consumption, but I think content consumption has sort of a connotation of like
Videos video. Yeah, or maybe maybe games
I would say gaming probably doesn't fall under category. I'd say that's its own because you don't consume a game
You interact with a game You know
He's having a thing there's no arguments that you interact with a video as well
He's having a thing there's arguments that you interact with do you though? Yeah, are they interacting with this video right now?
Okay, well we're live. That's different all the players live. That's different. You might chat
But watching a live stream is definitely content consumption
Oh For sure. I want to move on. This is making me uncomfortable
Capcom doesn't See the value in bringing back their original games last year Capcom released the original versions of the first three resident evils on
PC but Apparently it took some real convincing from the folks at good old games per GOG's
I'm not even gonna try I'm gonna butcher his name. So sorry about that per GOG
Capcom said we have all these remakes. They're they're already a superior experience to those original games
So they really didn't see the value in bringing back the vanilla versions
GOG says that the re-releases have been a success though and have proved
GOG's argument that gamers want the originals was correct
So our discussion question here is do you think it's important to preserve the original versions of old games on modern platforms?
Even after modern remasters or remakes are released
I do think so. I think so too. Why yeah, I
I think sometimes people say like oh nostalgia glasses rose tinted glasses, whatever
I think sometimes you do accurately remember what it was like And those graphics due to the nostalgia, maybe or whatever else. I don't know you might find those graphics charming for whatever reason
I just want to play it how it was and it's about more than just graphics. I mean back when I
I didn't I wasn't on top of it. So I didn't do it. But when uh blizzard
Kind of removed their older Warcraft titles from GOG
Because you know, well reforged is like, you know better now or whatever. I I had really
I didn't really want to give Activision Blizzard any money
But I really wanted to own those original versions of those games
And I didn't have my old cd keys or anything and so I was like I I'm very tempted to pick up copies of these before I can't get
Them anymore because I don't necessarily want your fixed balance. Yeah, I don't necessarily want your enhanced
Experiences and in the case of like in the case of single player experiences, for instance
Maybe you want to play the old buggy version and mess around with speed running
Maybe you want the controls to be clunky because that's more like what it was
Yeah, yeah, or yeah, that's another really good point And the reason that I actually picked this as a wancho topic this week is that I'm about
30 hours into playing a remake
of Of a beloved game for me from that I played when I was much younger a final fantasy tactics
So the remake is called the evil east chronicles and they have improved
a lot Like the the modern nice to haves like when you're in a fight now you can just
Go back to the world map and and you you won't end up like there was there was a
Particularly notorious fight in this game where you are you have to win a battle
And then you go into Another battle like subsequently without being able to go back to the world map and like redo all your
All your equipment or like grind a few more levels Whatever it is you might feel like you need to do you go straight into the second fight
And you have to 1v1 a really powerful opponent who has initiative on you and like
If you didn't build your main character, which you would have no way of knowing to do
Around winning this fight you could end up essentially with a no progression state
If you didn't happen to save Early enough to go back and and grind up and learn useful abilities for this fight
Final fantasy six had a few moments like that. Mm-hmm. So, you know the new version of tactics has has
Very much nice to have modern creature comforts that allow you to
Back out of that fight at that point you obviously lose any exp or items that you gained during this progression, but
No matter what it's got autosave, which is nice. You can just go back out and go do some stuff
um, but what I noticed is that some of the
Modern niceties have actually taken away from the game
They've made it. So there's certain content that you can just skip
You can just not bother with so one of the things that they added that
I've definitely felt was really nice is the ability to flee from random battles
So it used to be that as you were moving around on the world map every time you passed over
Certain location anything but anything but a city
You could hit a random battle because it's final fantasy. That's sort of that's part of the game
That's sort of a core element of final fantasy is the annoyance and frustration in the grind of random battles
and So being able to skip them is great because when you go to the towns and you go to the tavern
There's these missions that you can send your party members off on and they'll come back with
Job points so they'll like level up their job abilities
Which is like your class. Yeah, they'll get gold
So you some of them can be extremely lucrative and then you'll you'll also find like random relics or whatever
So you can become a treasure hunter. It doesn't really have any benefit, but it plays a nice
You know Dopamine releasing music and your characters jump around and get excited about it. So whatever sure great
Um, but the way that you do these is you go to the town
And then you you assign a few of your a few of your random party members to go off on this mission
and then every Dot that you go over on the map is one day
And the mission lasts for usually anywhere from like nine to 14 days or kind of somewhere in that range
So the whole idea of this mechanic was that you had to build up
a whole roster of party members besides just
Your main five that you take into every fight because they're your best ones and
They only become more bester the more that you use them because they'll continue to level up and level up and level up
Um, so you had to maintain a larger roster so that you had guys to send on these missions
And so that you could survive the random fights that you would go through before you could come get your guys back
With all their their booty right well now you can just
Move around on the map for a little bit Flee from all the fights and then just collect the golden job points. So you didn't you didn't earn it
That's why I mentioned my thing about controls Um is like in
Say the original starcraft you could only select a certain amount of units if I remember correctly
In one drag select and then I don't remember but was there bindable groups?
Uh, I'm trying to remember like like shift one. Yeah. Yeah
Starcraft warcraft 3 definitely had it 3. Yeah, I don't remember if starcraft had it
Uh, the the mcg says yes starcraft had it. I don't think warcraft 2 had it different forms of it or something
But either way there's like there's like microing shortcuts that kind of come in in later versions
Which are a difficulty changer 100%
So like having those old Controls might feel worse. Sure, but it might make the game easier
Right. Oh, yeah, which is like Basically the thing that you're saying but it's it's slightly different as through the control route, but it's like oh, I've got one
That's very similar Sure So another really nice to have is that in final fantasy tactics the original
When you moved on the battlefield, it would say are you sure and you'd be like yes
You're moved It's like chess rules once you let go of the piece. It's there. It doesn't matter if immediately go. Oh my god
No, no. Oh, no, it doesn't matter. You're there
um, and one of the things that made that
really challenging was that depending on
my zodiac sign and your zodiac sign
And my specific characters attributes and yours
I could do dramatically different damage with the same attack to one opponent versus another one
But once I moved I couldn't know how much until I moved within range
And made and and like lined up an attack information and then it would and then it would predict
You know, how much damage I'm going to do got it And that can be really important in a tactics game because a difference of 10 percent in my damage dealing
Could be the difference between a ko And over extending myself and completely turning the tide of the fight. Yeah, so in the remake
You can just you can just shop around For the best move
So you can just move there and go. Okay. How much damage can I do to that guy?
Um, you know I okay now move there and then see how much damage I can do there
And then I can undo my move and I can do that as many times as I want unless I have a certain ability equipped
That is like a like a move find item or a move
Gain job points or like something like that like there's certain abilities that that lock your ability to un-move that makes sense, but it makes it
markedly markedly easier
And The only way that they sort of countered all of this but was by adding a more difficult mode
They added a tactician difficulty But they took the laziest possible approach to increasing difficulty where instead of
Enhancing the enemy ai for instance like it still does shockingly stupid stuff
Uh, they just do they just nerfed my damage and buffed theirs. Yeah, I hate that
I hate just like number go up difficulty. Yeah stuff. I mean to a certain degree sure, but
I think one of the most egregious modern examples of that is the oblivion remake
Where there's like two difficulty levels. I don't remember what they are. I'm sure chat will know
They've been on a thing today Where you jump up and it like doubles or triples the enemy hp like it's it's just a wild experience
You play on one setting. It's like wow, this is way too easy. You play on the other setting. It's like, okay
It feels like I'm playing a wall. Yeah, and I just have to stab this. Yeah adept to expert. Sure
I don't know you just have to stab things like
I don't know you go from like one shotting things to fights take three minutes
Like it makes no sense at all and they recognize it pretty quick and I think they said that they were going to change it but
Yikes, I mean fights and I I mean I didn't I only played the original oblivion
But I know that I do remember some fights just being
A grind to the point where it's almost like immersion breaking
Oh, yeah, and then you have to because then it takes so long that you take a bunch of damage
Now you have to run and heal for a while. So that adds to the total time and then well
I just mean it at a certain point. It doesn't matter how tough you are if you're made of flesh
And I'm holding a big giant
Metal sharp thing. Sure. There's only so many times and like, you know, the animation has blood coming off of you
Like it's just there were these um the original far cry
Had these horrible like big brutes that show up towards the later stages of the game
And I remember I'll take more bullets. I remember being stuck in this one point
That was just incredibly frustrating because you had to kind of time it perfectly to get like
It was like multiple rockets. You have to hit these stupid things with and I'm just like
No No matter what you are no matter how tough you are if you are made of flesh and blood and bones
A rocket Blows you up
Like I'm no no bullets fine
You know, you could you could be shot a few times and you could still be just like
You know mess up enough to keep moving towards me or something like I can I I can handle
There are some examples suspension of disbelief
Around that or you know, you could be you could have a few arrows in you and you could like rip it off and like come
After me or whatever like sure you could have a grenade
You know go off next to you and it blows off your ARM or whatever
But you still like, you know, you're not you're a zombie or something you stagger towards me and you like grab on to me
I can I can get behind that close the odd artery while it blew your ARM off a rocket launcher to the face
Like I still it's like one of those really old memories because I could have been no older than like when did far cry come out?
Like I was I was like 16 or something right like it
But I still remember it even though that was yeah, exactly
Even though that was 21 years ago because I was just so mad because I died on this section a bunch of times
I finally came up with an idea. I was like, okay I like I have one rocket
And then I got my shot off like Perfectly I hit him in the face with it and I'm like, okay
Surely that must have and I'm dead and it's just like that's not fun
And you can you can limit the difficulty in other ways you can make you could make a rocket really hard to aim
You know you make the crosshair move sure you could severely restrict the ammo
Because it was already an issue in that game where you couldn't just like
Like carry an unlimited number of weapons and stuff You see you could limit the number of weapons that I can carry I can only carry two weapons
And so and I can only carry two rockets. Yeah, so taking the rocket launcher is like a huge ammo risk
Yeah, just just just this huge there's huge downsides to it or whatever find you like find another way to fix the balance
But be more creative than just hp go up hp go up. Yeah, it's not fun
Yeah, unless you're the kind of person who just really enjoys that in which case we want to hear from you
I'm kidding. I I don't yeah, I was like, uh, no, it's it's lazy. No, it's lazy design. It's lazy design. What are we talking about?
What topic are we on? Capcom not see the value
Yeah, I think I think Having original versions is cool for sure our discussion topic here from mr
I'm not gonna go to a is why are some devs averse to re-releasing older games without touching them too much
Are they being lazy? Are they being cheap? Um, are they scared the original so janky it could scare off potential buyers that one? I think I could see that one
I think that's the main one. I think if you're releasing this
Game on gog I think you're safe from that. I think so too. I mean that's that's what I think but you never know
I mean brands are funny about their brands because when you launch that game
It's still going to be a big giant capcom when you launch it and so if they're kind of sitting there going well
I mean, yeah, we were pretty proud of that 25 years ago, but
The games industry has sort of moved on and I could I could see people, you know creating a negative association between our brand and this like
frustrating janky experience
I've heard I've heard dumber arguments
Around brand use. Yeah, for sure. I just think
They also need to understand the positive association that would come with doing this and doing this the right way which I think
I think is releasing it through gog I think they did do it the right way that positive association is to a completely different person though
The positive association is with the nostalgia crowd or with the diehards who just you love the franchise
And they want to go experience it the way that it was or something like that
Whereas if almost literally anyone else ended up with this game, there's a really solid chance
They wouldn't like it like I wouldn't have given my son original final fantasy tactics
because It like didn't explain anything you just kind of get
Dumped into it. You've no idea what to do. It's super frustrating. Was that a manual game? Was that like a
Yeah, so like unless you have I mean you like maybe find a pdf and print off a replacement or something
But unless you have the manual, it's not the same experience. I think that's like
surprisingly easy to forget It's like experiencing something from that long ago now
Is is difficult to truly make the same
Because you kind of need everything that came with experiencing that to experience it properly
Could hold vim's lair Final fantasy tactics manual. That's awesome actually here it is
Oh, it's really slow cool that makes sense. I wonder if you people looked it up. Yep
Nice that's cool man
Manuals were pretty cool, dude
Okay, okay, but like okay. Look at this. Look at this though like this is crazy
In the new version they explain the importance of picking your zodiac sign
Like they they explain it quite a bit
Here enter the adventure I don't know bruv
Just go for it After entering your character's name enter your birth date on the next screen in similar fashion using the start button to confirm
Your birth date will affect zodiac sign which has an influence on your character's performance during battles see page 10
But they're just like yeah, just yeah, go for it. Well, what's on page 10?
All right, if it has a full matrix, then I will be then I'll think it's okay
Uh
Yeah Is this not page 10 because this looks like page 10 looks like a 10
But I don't think we've scrolled enough times for it to be page 10 Uh
Yeah, no not that useful
cool The the vim thing says you're on page like seven now or something. Yeah, well we can three chat saying three but the corner said 10
Yeah, well Cool chat saying three. Let's try three. Let's try three
I'm gonna hear you out chat. Nope. That's definitely not it. All right. I don't know what they mean by three neat
How are they both missing three? Anyway, the point is
I've literally no idea what they're saying No, it's a j as in jack. I have actually no idea what they're saying
J not three. What does j mean?
J as in j. Oh like section j on page 10. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, okay here here here here
Yeah, okay, this symbol indicates the unit's zodiac sign
If the unit attacks an enemy with a compatible sign damage will be increased
Uh, if signs are incompatible damage is decreased press the select button during battle to bring up a help menu and check the zodiac sign compatibility
Okay, okay, you know what? That that's actually pretty okay
I will say though that this is a flip in
This is dense This is not user friendly. This is not for kids
And This is just in some cases
Indicating where to go to bring up a help menu built within the game that is also
Not got the greatest translation. You liked it. Is it not for kids or is it not for kids now?
I don't know and I don't know how I liked it. I really
Like I'm thinking back to some of my first experiences playing this game
Like I didn't I didn't know how to change your
I didn't even know how to learn ever is morrowind. I didn't know it had a main quest
Yeah for months. Okay. This is my morrowind. Yeah, like I ended up against a brick wall in this game because I didn't actually
Twice within the first few battles because I didn't know how to learn additional abilities
And I didn't know how to because I didn't have the manual actually I played it on an emulator for the first time
So that's a big part of the reason that I bought this Was because I like needed to give square soft square enix now
But I needed to give the money for it at some point because I'd already played the game a few times
um so I didn't have a manual so I didn't know that you could like learn new abilities
And so I just got really frustrated because I kept coming up against tougher and tougher enemies that had all these like amazing abilities
And they could do magic and and I'm like
Okay, so when do I level up? And then I didn't figure out changing jobs for a while either so
I don't know how I figured out how to play this game to be honest with you because it's
very deep Very complicated. I think sometimes that's what you want as a kid
You think so you want to fight with something and like
force learn it and And
Impart your will onto it despite it being complicated and hard
Maybe part of it is just like having time at that stage in your life
Yeah, you have tons of time you have all the time you need a good rioja in Floatplane chat says I played xpacom
Apocalypse when I was eight and finished it. I went back to it a few years ago. I have no idea how I did that. Yeah
But you have almost no responsibilities tons of time and
Yeah, a desire to pick things apart and learn things that is like almost unparalleled. I really didn't realize
When I was in it how much free time I had when I was a kid like I felt like
I did a lot of chores and honestly
I did a fair amount of chores and stuff, but it's the it's like the mental load
I was never thinking about that stuff
When I had my free time when I had my free time my brain completely
Switched over and I was free I remember thinking when I was a kid at one point in time that I was really excited to be an adult because then I wouldn't have homework
Therefore more time. Yeah homework is just practice for working at home
And like at at and and I fully understand that in a lot of work positions
You can turn off being at work when you are not at work anymore. I will say that once you are at, you know, director
VP executive C-suite level
Most people I know they just effectively are working all the time. Yeah, no, it just doesn't like that. No, that's that's not how it works
Yeah, and ninja man away says yeah not in teaching lol. Yeah, there's so there's lots of there's lots of jobs where
You do get kind of like the summer in teaching
Yes, so I mean it depends. Um, that's also fair
Not with your current wages because now you got to do summer school or some other job
Coming from a family of teachers I definitely have some thoughts on how educators compensation has scaled over my lifetime and
I definitely know some educators with families who
Definitely do not have summers off because not because they have to teach at school
But because they have to find some other job, you know, uh teach badminton classes or
Do something else so that's a whole
Separate conversation, especially when we consider the importance of teacher's role in society. Yeah
Um You should want them being pretty good. You should really want them to be like awesome
um Especially when you consider how many things a teacher needs to be awesome at
Like they've got a teach Yes, well, and you never know when you're getting like side swiped by some random question about something that isn't your field
They need to be, you know counselors. Sometimes they need to be suspect often mediators
Sometimes they're expected to be these like jack of all trades, especially in elementary school
They're expected to teach like every subject. They have to be, you know, somewhat athletic
So they can like teach pe but also they need to know math and english and everything else and
Yeah
Yeah, uh
Next topic Sure, Dan, what do you want us to do because that's two main topics
I mean, we can move over to Some cw announcements if do Dan, do you just tell us what to do? I mean, do we have a lot of topics?
Yeah, why not let's do the cw announcement. This is the man that is truly in charge
Yep He said cw announcements. Oh, right. I got uh, he commanded. I don't know where to find them jump in the middle
I don't know where to find them in the middle Dan. I don't know how to do this show with the middle
They're at the very top. Yeah, they're at the top Dan. Oh, because there's no main topics
Yeah, we don't have main topics this week. They're at the top cw announcements note
What chat is making me very tired today
No, you just seem really tired today. Are you cranky? You seem cranky and tired
You've said that every week for so long. Well
Maybe you should especially this week. Maybe you should sleep a little more
and eat a bit more My goodness
Are you very tired today? I am a little tired. My wrist is like debalished
Oh from your your project Have you talked to them about that?
I'm trying to remember. I don't think super extensively. Okay. Talked a little bit
Do you want to talk about that? You don't have to not particularly. I don't think it's that interesting
I mean, it kind of sucks. It's kind of interesting. I think it's interesting. I
Why don't you tell the people about it? Okay? Um, so
My place As with basically every place you're going to get most likely
Was purchased off of someone else in my situation that person passed away. So it was an estate sale
The estate was dissolved shortly after the sale. So there's nothing for us to go after but there was a bunch of
undisclosed damage That we learned through the strata. I have told been told that for americans. That's the homeowner's association
HOA. Yep. I don't know if that's true for apartments still or whatever. I think it's kind of the same idea
People generally know what an HOA is. Yeah, we call it a strata. It's that thing but for an apartment building or condo building
um I was informed through that that my unit had a bunch of leaks in it with the previous owner
We thought that that was centralized to one location and that it was dealt with a while ago
Because we dealt with it a while ago Turns out it was not because there was more than one set of leaks that happened
We solved the one set of leaks that happened. Turns out there was a second set of leaks that happened
What about second? We're pretty sure because they did tell us this much
They told us to not use the dishwasher when we moved in because the seal was not good
Yeah We're pretty sure that they learned the seal was not good by it flooding the house. Nice and they didn't say that part
Right. So how our unit works. I'm going to use some I'm going to do some really good paint
This is going to be amazing. This is great. Uh jpef in Floatplane chat goes hoas aka the league of extraordinary carons
Yeah, it's crazy, dude. I wanted uh, so we have a mini split in my unit
So that's an air conditioner. Yeah, and I wanted to have
a second head so a second Fan thing that makes it cold
Sure, uh, and Basically, we wanted two rooms to be aced instead of just one room
And we were told no Because the unit that goes outside
Did you say it doesn't know? Oh, you just switch back. That makes sense. The unit that goes outside is mounted like in a certain spot
Go away internet, um, and it would have had to move for reasons and been somewhere else
And I demonstrated with art like decent art actually how I would have made it like this. No
How I would have made it. I'm just checking not bothersome to the other people. Right, right, right, right
And they still were just like nope No one else has done it or can do it. So you can't do it
So my problem is that it feels like
It feels like we have Man, this is this is going way off the rails now
But I feel like we have a bit of a societal problem right now where saying no is easy
yeah and problem-solving is hard
but Saying no sucks
And solving problem problem solving means that you have solved a problem
And I just I feel like somehow and and I've gone through this
So I've gone through so much bureaucracy
in the last 13 years running a business you just
You just come up against bureaucracy as just part of your daily
life and I
I think that it has been the single most
Aging tiring
Just life draining part of being alive
for the last 13 years. It's like dealing with other annoying people. Well, it's not
It's not even that they're annoying Right, because they're not
they're not Sure, but they're not trying to be annoying. They just it's it's through incompetence or
laziness or apathy Sometimes stupidity. They don't actually understand the question and then that that
Stupidity plus apathy is a really potent
Combination in a bureaucrat because they don't understand and they don't really care to understand
Which is just it's a brick wall and
And I just It's at the point now where it's such an obstacle to getting anything done
I mean look at how long it took us to get whale land done and that was with
A lot of support and so I want to take a moment to shout out the city of Surrey actually
Because of the people there that were
Very helpful and helped us overcome
the apathetic lazy
Sometimes seemingly malicious Individuals that stood in the way
Um Because it was fine to do whale land and we did a whale land the video is coming and it was great and it was fun
It was awesome and it was a boon to the city So even with the mayor on board and the council on board and thinking this is a good idea
just the amount of bureaucratic
obstruction that could be put in place by by
Sometimes just one person from project to project right like you never know when bam it's gonna hit you and someone just
had a bad day one day And said no and is a principled person who once they've decided something
Expects that that's just the decision now and it's like
Like we we need a solution and you can either be part of the solution or you're an obstacle. Those are it's it's kind of binary here
um Anyway, what i'm trying to say is that's horrible
And it's like it's not the end of the world. Okay, so what luke can't have two heads on his mini split. He's not going to die
It's not that kind of horrible, but it's just it's draining. I mean it drains your life force
There's there's is a problem in my unit where yeah the building that we're in
And i'll say this bit because I know other buildings have this problem. It's in bc
I think it's bc law. I could be wrong. I don't know you're not allowed to smoke within a certain amount of feet of buildings
Yeah, but because air quality etc our building has allowed smoking on your like balcony thing
right So genuinely if we have any window open if the sliding doors open anything for any amount of time
Like I mean at four in the morning
It doesn't matter any time
Just I don't know if it's how like Things are shaped or what but like all of it seems to flow directly into our unit. It's crazy
I was I was gonna I was gonna this is I was going to the bathroom
Yesterday and I yelled out to emma being like I feel like I'm literally smoking weed right now
Because like there was so moat so much second hand smoke coming into our unit. So that's why you're so sleepy maybe
Maybe you're just still actually maybe I'm still high. Yeah. No, I don't think so, but I was gonna do the way
Then I got high I didn't mean to but then I got uh
Um Yeah, I know it's it's it's terrible. So we don't want
Like I even tried I built this like insulated box thing. I don't know if you've even seen it, but maybe
Rock wall inside of a wooden long tall wooden vertical box
That I put in the sliding glass door that you can even move the latch
From the the wall to this box so you can latch the door on it and then feed through an ac tube for like a rollable ac thing
It still leaks a little bit too much and you can get smoke in the house and I won't die from it
I'll be fine the birds will. Yeah, so it's like ah, so we want another mini split
One of the greatest things about this whole thing is one of the key people that was arguing against letting me do it
Was complaining not that long ago about how hot the main area in their unit is
Which is the exact area that I was trying to add an ac head to because none of the units are entire building
Have any ac in that room and the only window in that room for our entire building is the sliding glass doors
So there is not an easy way to do it
You idiot like I can't
Ah, it's so annoying. Well luke
At least it's very rare for people to vote against their own self-interest
At least it doesn't happen very often
Okay, well my amazing art is done and this isn't going to make any sense. Let me let me explain it
So, uh, this area here
Is say an apartment Um, that is built like mine, and I'm probably going to get things screwed up. Sorry tradies in the chat
The black outline lines are walls all of these walls including there's this like there's a room here
And let's say there's a door right there all of these walls including this wall in between
There's this gap this Display that I have on the on the left here. So the right hand side is lightweight concrete
So the whole unit that we're on all the individual rooms have their own slab of lightweight concrete
And then there's a gap which is half an inch wide two and a half inches deep
Roughly very roughly the amount wide changes quite a bit as you go along
but it's roughly half an inch wide and
Fairly accurately two and a half inches deep on the other side of that is a piece of wood
Uh, this black bar in the middle is expansion joint material and then the red thing
Decently deeply down but in there is a nail because they nail the expansion joint material to the wood
And then they pour the lightweight concrete the lightweight concrete goes directly against the expansion joint material
And kind of fuses to it So the first task that we had was opening all the drywall so that we could access this trench
and then we had to Exacto knife down each side because the cement would kind of fuse with it
And the the wood side wouldn't fuse with it too much except there. You're supposed to be adhesive on that side
So you'd have to cut through the adhesive on one side And then cut through the the concrete cement whatever fusing on the other side
And then it would be fused to the bottom often as well
But if you released both the sides you could like pry it out with this weird thing that I would do with a knife
Which was strenuous and tiring but eventually we got the whole place done
And then we had to put closed cell foam backer rod
So high density closed cell foam
And then like tubes basically sure and we had to shove those in the hole
The reason why we had to do that is because the like real solution isn't acquirable by
normies I hate that when you're not allowed to buy the proper thing because you
Did a ton of research on this called up repair shops
um, there's a place in ontario that was like Considering shipping it to us and like giving me a contractor number temporarily. Yeah, I was gonna say usually you can like when I when I was
Trying to get paint for my bike You just have to find a place that there was a couple places locally that were unwilling to do it
Oh, that's a bummer I think mostly because I I think they didn't have it on hand
So you're gonna have to like order stuff in and they didn't want to order stuff in for me if I wasn't like a contractor, bro
But um this other place I think had it on hand. So they were like
We don't love this, but we can ship it to you. The problem was it wasn't going to get it to us in time
So we we came with this backer rod solution. Okay, we checked it with a few people. They said it should be fine
Um, it will help with the whole expansion situation, right? Um
But it's it's not perfect, but it's pretty good. Yeah, we could do it in time
So it sounds good, but I had to shove this backer rod which is oversized
Yeah, and a circle Into this rectangular trench and I had to shove it all the way down into the trench literally round peg
Square hole Yeah, and then and then I had to do another one because you wanted to pretty much fill this trench
Yeah, you can't have an air gap in there Ideally no So I have to put at least two the most I ever had to do was four
But almost all the time it was two like over 90 percent of the time it was two
Yeah, okay And and I had to shove it in like that and I had to do the entire house and it's like very difficult to get in there
Usually unless the trench gets really wide for a second and then it just plops right in right
But usually it's pretty hard to get in there. So for
Double digit amount of hours I was basically shoving as hard as I could like this with my hands down into the trench
Right and mostly with my right one because more coordinated and stronger and I just torched the tendons of my wrist. It is
Yeah, so I don't know I went to physio
And he said that like the strength is still there and things are generally fine
Like I can move like this right and I can move like that right and I can move like this
Yep, but if I made a fist and then pulled it in it hurts a lot, right, right?
So no doing that for A week a week and a half somewhere around there
Okay, but you're done anyway, right?
Yeah, pretty much. So the that stuff is oh, yeah, ouch, that wasn't great. Um, do
podcast injury I'm trying to gesture and I just oh
Doing that stuff Oh, right what I was going to say the the I didn't explain this part
So the flooding that probably happened from the dishwasher, but we don't know
Wasn't a crazy amount of water. So it didn't like seep into the floor
Or get under the floor, but it flowed enough that it poured over into these trenches
Basically around the entire place. Yeah, and rotted out all this expansion joint material
So there was a little bit of mold, but it was mostly just a ton of rotten material a wrist brace might be helpful
Uh, yeah, I got one. Um physio guy said to not wear it all the time
Because I'm supposed to actually use it. I'm supposed to move it right like I was doing this earlier in the show
I'm supposed to do this right where I I was wondering what you were doing. Yeah, yeah
So I'm doing the little exercises. Oh, that's weird. I'm a good boy with the physio exercise. I actually do them
That's good. Yeah So I have other ones that I'm supposed to do as well. So I'll I'll make sure I'm keeping on top of those
Uh, but yeah, the expansion joint material was rotten. Um, and that was bad for a few reasons
One of them was because it was promoting mold growth. Yeah, so it looked black
It was not black mold. We got it tested. There was no black mold. Oh
That's really like white mold and some other stuff. Okay. It wasn't good, but it wasn't like, oh god evacuate the house immediately bad
Okay, um So but we didn't want it to get there. So get the rotten material out get new stuff in
Do you have an eta for when your place is livable again?
Livable to the point where I don't have to sleep at my parents is hopefully monday. Really? Yeah
So so the the progress is since then drywall is back up. Yeah, so the the the holes were
Bad material taken out good material putting in putting in put in
Um, and then the drywall was put back to like seal it and then we have someone helping with the
Finishing so mudding and sanding and all that kind of stuff and that is like almost done
He thinks he'll be done by saturday And then we're hoping to paint two rooms
The two rooms that would have carpet in it. Mm-hmm and then carpet people are coming in monday nice
And then we'd be able to like put the bed back nice and
I could set up a desk nice some basic stuff like that
And that would be like a enormous improvement I noticed today on steam because a buddy sent me a steam key for a game that he was working on
I haven't launched a game on steam since the 18th of last month. Yeah
Which is like a month. I was I was telling Emma. I think this is the longest I've gone without using a desktop of my own
Since I was probably like eight
That actually makes sense
It's been like a month and a half Like the last thing I launched on steam wasn't even on my desktop. I was on a trip and I think I launched like slay this wire or something
Like it's been a long time
Adulting. Yeah Wow, all right. Yeah, um
So yeah, I miss this. Are you just helping but your land? No, I own the place
um Which is like cool and also totally sucks
Yeah, it's a funny assumption that like
Luke is poor He's just cheap
It is a really really big difference
I think other people have problems with spending money. I don't think I'm cheap
Okay I
Because it be Luke identifies as poor. No, I don't know. He doesn't I really don't he really doesn't I don't
I don't actually understand where this comes from
But there is a not insignificant amount of the LTT community that like
Things Luke is poor. Yeah frugal. Yeah, I prefer frugal some people in the there was a there was a
LMG clip on this recently and a bunch of people in the comments are saying it's it's frugal
No, he's not a miser either because Luke spends money on other people
He just doesn't he doesn't spend money on the kinds of things that
it feels like Our society encourages us to spend money on I don't
care About a lot of those things. No, I I I get it
I I totally get it. I just uh It it just
Yeah, yeah Yeah, and like so many chats says luke is just smart with his money. I don't even want to take that necessarily
Yeah, I don't actually think that that's quite the case either because if luke was smart with his money, there's a lot of
Okay, how do I say this?
There's I know how much money luke makes and I know how much he spends
And because we're also friends in addition to me being his employer and so therefore knowing how much money he makes
I know How little work his capital is doing for him. Yeah. Yeah, there are some reasons. I I I know I know and that's and that's totally valid
um however
I I the hmm. I
Okay, and the thing is In some ways, I'm just as bad as him
Like both of us I would argue worse because you don't have the same limitations
Both of us have Completely missed out on like this recent stock market bull run. Oh, yeah, for instance. Oh, yeah
I just want to disclaim all of this, you know, not this none of this is financial advice. This is not financial advice
um So, you know, right, but there's been like an incredible
You know stock bull market for for an extended period of time here and there's been some fairly
obvious plays um, but you know because of our position as tech influencers and because of
I don't want to be invested in an NVIDIA. I think we I think that would be bad
I think we both also tend to have a bit of a bit of a one in the hand versus
Two in the bush sort of mentality. I think that's part of it. I think that
part of it is is is just
I think part of it is growing up poor um
Like growing up without money and yeah
Yeah, and I think people I tell that story that was a
relatively short period of my upbringing. We were fine most of the time but like
That bit was at a formative time
And made me think about money in a certain way like I mean I
Not long after that time. I blew everything I had on a computer like
And and we were both let's be real both young dudes
You know and and definitely wasted money on things. Oh, yeah, let's let's be very clear
But I think that in general like we both
experienced times When there was real scarcity
Yeah, I guess that would be the best way to to kind of describe it because
like I was never on the verge of complete homelessness or anything like that, but there were definitely
There were times of there were tighter times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so recognizing the very real possibility that
Like money could be gone and and there would not be any more coming
I think put both of us in a position where what you have in the bank
um Seems a lot more important than what you could get out there
If you if you like deployed it if you took it out of the bank and with inflation going the way that it is
Like the money that we've had sitting in the bank has been rotted. Yeah, like
to a degree that makes me Genuinely pretty uncomfortable to think about like how much of it has just
Rotted. Yeah, um Like man, it's it's I I still
Like I I went through a period for a bit. Sorry. I just want to address this really quickly
McBain said regarding investing in invidia better me have the money than somebody else. Yeah, but like I
Do stuff with the lab. Yeah, it's just not I don't want to be invested NVIDIA. Yeah, it just
I don't want that uh Not that I don't think I could handle
That like potential conflicting interest thing. I don't think that would be a problem for me at all to be completely honest, but
I just don't even want anyone thinking it I'm just not going to mess around with that. Apparently, this is the whole thing the psychology of scarcity
Uh explores how deprivation wreaks havoc on cognition and decision making
Being poor requires so much mental energy that those with limited means be they sugarcane farmers in india or new jersey mall goers
Are more likely to make mistakes and bad decisions than those with bigger financial cushions that actually makes a ton of sense
I think there's also like
I don't know there's comfort levels. I don't necessarily think that being a risk averse is a bad decision
I don't think that maximizing The potential value play over under on every dollar that you have is necessary
No, no, I don't I don't think it's necessary and the comfort and like no
I should be doing more with my stuff for sure. There's certain limitations. Whatever. We don't need to get into that. Um,
they're too but, uh
Assuming I did do some of it. I still wouldn't do a ton
Yeah, because the comfort of just I'm good
Is like really nice and I I see value in that and I don't only see value in dollar numbers, which I
Some people do and I don't see it that way I see like
Comfort lack of concern Not needing to check the stock market twice a day every day all the time
Those types of things is like it's kind of nice like I remember
I knew some people that made a lot of money off of crypto I had some crypto for a bit hanging out with those people. It's it was all that I
When it was going up It was all I could think about and when it was going down
It was like super all I could think about and I wasn't even in super heavy or anything
We were just talking we were just this perfect actually We were just talking about playing games when you're younger and how you can like actually just think about the game
Yeah, like No, not anymore. No, not if you're leveraged into something not if your livelihood and you're like eating next month relies on some some
relies on a game you're playing. Yeah relies on like somebody associated to the company that you're invested in not saying something crazy. Yeah, or
Doing whatever or saying something crazy and it mooning. Anyway, whatever, right? Yeah, because I got to say man
this the stock market feels more just
Meme stocks and gambling than ever and that's something that we've talked about extensively on the show how it just
feels like gambling right now um
Asian says that gold xbox controller though, okay, that was that that was a calculated risk probably made money
It was an amount that I was very comfortable, you know depreciating a little bit
and Oh, yes, it's definitely made money. Yeah
Gold what would you look up gold index or what? Gold price.org
Is the is the best one that I've found
Oh, yeah, I guess we could do that These are one days. Let's look at how long do you think it's been five years? Uh, when did yeah, when did we uh make the
Oh, that's silver. Uh, hold on five years
Hold on when did we make the gold controller four years ago?
Yeah, so five years is the closest I can get because it's it's one and then five or one two five
Yeah, I think the gold controller did okay
Uh It's like over doubled in value. Yeah, I think the gold well
We spent like 20 grand on the like Craftsmanship of it or something like that 15 something it was it was like many many many many labor hours
How much was the value of just the gold? Uh, I don't disclose. I don't remember. I think it's in the video, but I don't remember the exact
I don't remember how many ounces sure went into it. Yeah, um, that was like kind of a minor detail
in my mind, um
You know what they ended up uh Certain people in chat are like sigh. This is why you have a financial advisor company
Yeah, and a lot of them would say just invest everything in big seven and I would not want to do that
Oh, dude, I would be like I that's it's not it's it's not a automatic solve all I'd be terrified
Yeah, I'd be terrified to throw everything into magnificent seven right now and this is not financial advice
Are that is a thing this is not financial advice. Here we hear assumptions. I'm literally not
I know people that have done this because of financial advisors. I'm actually not making an assumption
I was actually chatting with CEO, uh, mr. Tarantong the other day
And um, we were I was sending him this article uh research by mark zandy the chief economist of moody's analytics
Showed earlier in this year and again recently that the top 10 percent of earners in the u.s
Are responsible for just under 50 percent of all consumer spending
Like I've been trying to wrap my brain around this for a little while how LTT Store sales
Chat's driving me insane today. No, they do the investing
That doesn't change anything if that's what they're just gonna do that doesn't change anything
There's also a problem right now where you invest you might be investing in companies that are cyclically invested in the big seven
So it's like it doesn't even really matter like it's
There are absolutely ways to do it properly it well
properly And there are ways that I would be more down with and there are advisors that will think more the way that I would like to think
And you can also Explain to them that you want to approach it a certain way and they might do it in that way in that school
And there's also fees that come along with that and that might be bad and who knows and whatever and it doesn't matter go
away Ninja man away not the right people to talk to about this. It's weird to see Linus be the calm one and luke getting angry at the chat
I told you he's grumpy today Having he gets a rest guy
He's good So what I was gonna so right I've been trying to wrap my brain around like how
Things are pretty pretty tough right now
In general like you've got you know dollar giant mooning because
Way more people are shopping at the dollar store, which by the way
There is nothing wrong with shopping at the dollar store One of my kids made an offhand comment about like shopping at the dollar store or something like that or
Where were we? No, we weren't at the dollar store. We were
Yeah, no, we weren't at the dollar store, but we were somewhere
We were at walmart. That's right. We were at walmart because um, I I promised her like a dad
daughter day and um, she she could pick any activity she wanted and she wanted to make slime
So, uh, walmart is the place that I know that I can get boxes of borax because superstore doesn't carry it
Or they didn't the last time I checked and I didn't feel like going to a dozen different places. So
Uh, we went to walmart. So we picked up some borax some white glue
Um, and we didn't need food coloring. We already had that the point is you don't care about the ingredients to slime
You care about the story maybe or you don't I don't know you're watching wind show
So who knows? uh, the point is that uh, we were there and she wanted to get something
I forget what it was, but it was something that I basically was like no
We'd be better off getting that at the dollar store and she goes well, wouldn't it be a worse one?
And I go whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on No, the place that you buy something does not indicate the quality of it
You can buy Campbell's soup at the dollar store Or you can buy Campbell's soup at some bougie supermarket and they are the exact same thing
As long as oh, okay Campbell's soup is canned So I wouldn't even worry about the expiry date like sometimes you can get food stuff
That are closer to the expiry date at the dollar store. So you do kind of have to watch for that
But if it is the same product Then no, you just get it wherever you get the best deal. There is no there's no better status
In buying something at a fancier store and paying more for it. It's just not something that I'm ever
Going to believe in
How did I get on this topic again? Can't remember
No not was before that chat might remember
Yes, uh top 10 percent earners spend 15 percent of 50 percent of consumers right, right, right, right
So I was talking about dollar giant So dollar giant is like doing great because more and more people are resorting to shopping at the dollar store
Which I just wanted to make clear is not a problem Shopping at the dollar store is totally fine
But for a lot of people where they shop is part of their
Self-worth equation, I suppose and so they're you know, they only shop at the dollar store during hard times apparently. I'm like, okay
Sure, whatever. Um, I will never be too cool to shop at the dollar store
I give you my personal Linus tech tips and guarantee of that
Um, and so I've been trying to figure out okay
So with things being tough and they're being all of these indicators
Right that things are tough. I've been trying to figure out why like LTT Store sales are not falling
Like why LTT Store is still doing fine
And so I saw this and I was like
Holy crap I had no idea
How one sided it was I didn't realize consumer spending would track that way. Oh like like like that much though
That's that's wild. Anyway, so he countered with
S&P 500 is basically S&P 10
Because the top 10 companies are about 40 of the value and have been responsible for 70 of the index growth
So when you so I had a I had a I had kind of a an annoying conversation
Well, I shouldn't say annoying conversation with Yvonne because she was just the messenger
but I was annoyed about a conversation I was having with Yvonne because
She was talking about some investment service or something
And uh, she basically goes. Yeah, so like they just recommend like this s&p thing and I go, okay
That's fine. Um, but there are a handful of companies in the s&p that I think are just
ludicrously like Overvalued bubble the fundamentals of this company make absolutely
No sense one of the ones that I'll that I'll name is tesla. I think tesla's valuation is
Just bat sh** crazy right now um
They are really struggling to sell cars that is only going to get worse as the us subsidies go away as the chinese market
Just effective like dumping from domestic chinese companies continues
And as they continue to struggle to compete in europe like it is
It is not looking good for tesla's car business and
Sure fine tesla's an AI company or something and they make humanoid robots, but like
Sorry, what is optimist's? Compete level like right now
Bad and what is the indication that that will get better?
Nothing not much. Yeah, uh, okay, sure
And then the whole AI thing Right so tesla is a super duper de duper AI company, but also
You know when they're supposed to get g e sorry g e's when they're supposed to get GPU's
They just get sort of unilaterally redirected to other companies like
You know xai that are also, you know predominantly owned by
overlapping ownership groups The the whole thing is just a complete smoke and mirror show
And so I wanted absolutely no exposure to it and they basically the response is just like well, we don't do that
And I go okay. Well, then I don't Do whatever your thing is
um Because I don't want any exposure to that and that was even before I realized just how bad it is
The top 10 companies 40 percent of the value 70 percent of the growth
So this like bull run that's taken place over the last little while here
Has been driven by Predominantly the the AI
And they're and they're cyclical investing as well to be clear. I did not just call it the AI
I was going to say the AI bubble, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to use the b-word. Sure, but there's the like you know
Seems like a bubble X amount of money goes from open ai to oracle x amount of money goes from oracles NVIDIA
X amount of money goes from invidia to open ai dude big circle thing. This is also not the first time we've seen this happen
um I saw the funniest broke it back on uh here. This is this is amazing Dan
I'm sending this to you to bring up on the show Dude, you're gonna you're gonna freaking love this
Where is Dan the There's also the like the the I think fairly old school like I'm gonna get the numbers wrong
But I think it's like 20 per sector maximum 5 per company maximum if it goes above any of that sell it off
Until it gets down to that number blah blah blah blah blah
Thing and that's all cool, but there's
Unless you're watching it decently close I think there's issues with that because of like what I was mentioning earlier where all these companies are kind of tied into each other
In a variety of different ways. Uh, no, I want you to throw it up on screen
Yeah, just get get me that photo carousel because luke you're gonna love this
This is a meme that I caught over on wall street bets earlier today
This card game would be lit Um Dan you ready?
Uh, that's fine. Just just throw up the page. It doesn't really matter
He's doing it. He's doing it. He's got this This actually made me laugh out loud and then I showed it to a couple of other people on set and they actually
lol'd Um, it's a big problem right now. Oh, dude. It's a huge dude. It's wild
There is a money sink happening because there's a little bit of loss every time that moves around
No, it gains it multiplies every time it moves around as far as I can tell because it pulls out from
investors Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah hit it
Love this. Uh, you might have to zoom it a bit so we can see the cards
I see where this is going
No, no, give us more time give us more time luke doesn't read so fast. Yeah, I did read this but
Yeah, that is a problem economic or a boros. I love it fantastic. Okay next oh, man
It's jim kramer
Legendary creature you might do opposite. That's fantastic power zero wisdom minus two chrispa nine merry loud
Seconds before it crashes The stock is go to the boot
That's great. Oh, man
Yeah, yeah, I hit me
Immediately halves your portfolio Oh, man
That's pretty good. It's like I uh, I I absolutely love this subreddit not because I actually want to invest any of my money in anything right now
Uh, the all the the one that's missing is uh nana's inheritance. So we've got ghost grandma
Forces player to buy overvalued stock reduces total value of portfolio by 30%
Oh, oh, man. Oh, man. This has been this has been active all day. There's a Jerome Powell card now ability money printer gober
um effect bag holder targets opponent gains unmarketable assets
Transitory all effects are temporary. Maybe
Oh Man
Okay, anyway, it's a wild world right now that legitimately sounds like an outstanding card game
But just like it'd be like the calvin ball of card games because I just feel like there'd be no rules and nobody wins, you know
You could totally make that game work Maybe I think you I think you could you think so like like a finance a finance deck builder
Game I think you could It's so funny. I I guarantee you like all this is just like AI generated
Like slop, but that doesn't change that it's super funny. You know that might do pretty okay if you
If you make it right now, it's so top. Oh my god, there's so many more cards than when I looked at it earlier
Luigi time trap card
The target stock loses half its value when activated
Oh
I do want to take a moment In spite of the fact that he's laughing to point out that murder is not an answer. Okay
That's an important thing for us to get out there
Merge messages Sure, is that what we're supposed to be doing? I think that's what we're supposed to be this is going to be my
This is going to be my third or fourth attempt at starting the creator warehouse announcements. Yes note
samples of underwear and pet bandanas are on the table
And an example of a utility shirt is hanging on the right of liners behind your
And then the one on the far right, I think oh what are we launching this much stuff today? I have no idea
Okay, uh, okay
Uh, first up back by popular demand. Do you want to ramp the site?
Sure site while I do the thing
Whoops We have too many websites to start with LTT. Yeah, sorry about that. Uh, luke laptop ready luke luke laptop rear
so first We have three brand new designs of the screensaver party shirt. We've got solitaire
which There we go. I am currently wearing which luke is currently wearing if you look really closely you might notice that
Um, there are no not that one. They can't see that
There you go. If you look really closely you might see that there's cards that are bouncing around
Uh, that are completely legally distinct from any other cards because these ones only say l
TT on them Yes, totally different cards unrelated to any other cards. Yep. We also have astala vista
Which I'm wearing. Oh, that's pretty good. I didn't actually recognize what this was
That totally makes sense though And finally we have bread soaring
Which Dan is wearing which is legally distinct from after dark flying toasters
Because this is clearly flying toast and dinosaurs
Which is totally different Very cool
Dude, I am so
Stoked on these designs. They are all available now at LMG.gg slash screensaver, but wait
There's more Your pet deserves to be stylish too
So we're also launching some matching pet bandanas for your dog cat
Rabbit chicken capybara. We don't judge
You can get them now at LMG.gg slash pet bandana
So you could you could be matching you could be matching just like that. It's as easy as that. How cute is that?
Ah These are great. Did people bring in their pets for the photo shoot? Of course. That's fantastic
The dogs always look a lot happier about it than the people than the cats. Oh my goodness
So cute That's pretty great
Gotta love it. Um And you have more a lot of y'all have been waiting for this announcement
We are finally Bringing back LTT underwear
It's underwear so soft and comfy
That you'll be getting people talking about it
On facebook What? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is old. It's 2023. I think we talked about this on the show back then
I forgot about that. That is hilarious
It is available in two different kinds of three packs
One for the bold and another if you want to keep things a little more stealth
Uh uses a Uh, oh, I don't want to get this wrong. So I'm just going to make sure I get this right
a 47.5 percent modell
47.5 cotton five percent elastane blend for a great balance of
Hand feel well, I mean butt feel you know how it is butt and other stuff
um and stretchability and other stuff structure and
What? You only what other stuff only but stuff no other stuff
Is that no, I was looking for you to uh to explain
Ah, yes And oh, this is a really handy feature that we actually I don't think even like mentioned the LTT logo on here
Is like kind of a little like I like the grippy thing Yep, and in the morning when your eyes are not open yet. It's a great way to landmark and orient the underwear
It's fantastic. You put them on the right way around. Yep. Uh
Anywho we've also got the boulder pack
It rocks But it's not socks
Dan doesn't like me dude I'm telling you Dan it rocks. We've got the heck are you talking about we've got the boulder pack
Oh god, damn it. There you go. Nice
There you go I got I got it. I think the longer it takes me to get it the better it is for the ding just because it's so bad
Anyway, the boulder pack has our has our prism underwear our confetti
The confetti is great. Yeah And then it also comes with a more
You know, hey, maybe I'm just in case you wanted to chill. Maybe I'm feeling like luke is today
I'm just a little cranky. Wow. I'm gonna wear my black underwear. Wow. I
Think these must be your size because they certainly aren't mine. They looked pretty big
Okay, are they too big for you too? I don't know. I don't even know what size there, but they look pretty big
You know what? I'm not going to make you disclose your underwear size on on stream. So
That is that is me. Okay Sure, I was like man, I would be I would be swimming in these these look huge though. That's weird
I put LTT underwear on literally every day. So we'll see are they
Is it possible shrink maybe the ones I have a shrink? Yeah, it's it's possible. Well, it shouldn't be that much
It's only a little bit of cotton. Maybe it's just
Maybe they looked really big in my hands Maybe I don't know. No, I just held it up. He's used to that though
It's very ego boosting. Anyway, we use the uh, we
Use the same patterns as last time. So it shouldn't it shouldn't be it's okay
Anyway, check them out LMG.gg Slash undies my notes say probably a good idea to click this and check out the photos. Of course, they put me front and center
Thank you for that. We always have we always have fun. We always have fun with the underwear shoots the anon mask was
surprising oh Yeah, I don't know what I was going for here. I'm not sure I'm not sure
I just the the place where we do these shoots is is in the bedroom set and then the props land is
But it's not a bedroom at all anymore. I know it's still called bedroom set though. Yeah, fair enough
um Anyway, we've got we've got lots of
We've got lots of pictures of LTT staff in their underwear
Nice, so if whether you want to buy whether you want to buy the underwear or not
Uh, there's there's that um massive shout out to the cw team for the fun photo shoots
and One more thing. We also just launched the office utility shirt
Uh, but you know what? I'm gonna I'll pull up the loop. We'll pull up the page for this
It's a this dude the just practical office wear stuff has been absolutely
Killer for us. Uh, it just Sells because people just want something that they know is good
That is quality and uh that they can wear to work
It's a smart work shirt shirt with a little bit of stretch cool a hidden titanium carabiner clip in the front pocket
And a little integrated screen wipe at the bottom for glasses phone screens or whatever the screen wipe is awesome
Yeah, it's also designed to keep relatively wrinkle free without ironing and is available now at LMG.gg slash office shirt
All right, Dan. What are we supposed to be doing now? We got a couple merch messages
Um, oh, yeah. Oh for those who are new the way to send a merch message is you go to lttstore.com
We don't want you just throwing money at your screen. We're not that into just donating to people who frankly
Don't need it. However much they might pretend to be poor and need it
Um, it doesn't have to pretend. We think that if you're going to throw money at your screen
You should get high quality goods in the mail in return
So head over to lttstore.com add something to your cart You'll see the box for a merch message you type a merch message
It goes to producer Dan and he will filter through them and he will get rid of the ones that have you know bad words and
you know I don't know
Seahorse emojis in them or whatever the case may be and he will curate some for us to talk about on the show
Oh, some of them. He just like puts up here so you can have like a little shout out. Hi mom or whatever
If your mom watches the land show which mine does she might well, yeah yours yours might
Yeah, so sample size of no mine doesn't uh sample size of two
50% of moms watch the land show
You heard it here first. That's good math Sample size is perfect. Yep
uh, the point is Dan will show us how much messages work. Thank you Dan
Sure thing. I've got a few here. Hey DLL. Love the show question for Linus. Yes, how are the LTT cables coming along?
I can't wait to get them. Oh really good. I'm so excited. I ran into yet another situation yesterday where I just
I was troubleshooting something and maybe this affects me disproportionately and maybe for a lot of you you don't have the same kind of
um emotional fatigue with
Stuff not working when you're troubleshooting
But we were having an issue with uh, we were doing an AMD ultimate tech upgrade for john from the lab
Actually, I was I was at his place yesterday and a big part of his setup is his uh, his driving sim rig
and so Like his upgrade Basically, he sank like over half of it into a big screen beyond two
Nice Yeah Because he didn't have he didn't have base stations yet. He didn't have knuckles controllers yet
Okay, so he got a big screen beyond two and based three base stations
And knuckles controllers and then he also got a new GPU for his like media pc because that's where his vr setup is
So he like basically blew the budget on his probably like the lowest amount of packages
Oh, dude, there was like nothing because the rest of it was a 77 inch OLED
Also for the vr space. Yeah, so it's like the before and afters like wild because it's he he was running
He was rocking an oculus cv1 still
Yeah That's a enormous upgrade and an insignia like 42 inch tv
Okay, wow, so he like that's awesome completely zero to hero
It's it was it's like if someone upgraded from a chevy volt to like a take-hand
Like it's crazy like not even that it would have been like if I went straight from the civic to the take-hand
I was gonna say I think it's more. Yeah, it's it's crazy
Anyway, so as we were getting toward the end of the shoot and everyone's blood sugar was low and people had places to be
We were running into an issue with the usb connection that goes over to his his sim chair
That connects to his pedals his shifter. He got a new a wheelbase
Like a direct drive wheelbase. Sorry. That is the one last thing that I missed and
Like the wheelbase wasn't getting picked up and we're like, okay
Is it the new wheelbase? Is it the cable between the wheelbase and the hub?
Is it the hub? Is it the port on the computer?
And when you're troubleshooting something like that Oh, is it the cable going from the hub to the computer when you're troubleshooting a multi element?
Um system where any one link in this chain can be bad and you have no way of knowing which one it is
man Does it ever feel good to go into your backpack?
Take out this cable, which I'm using to charge my laptop right now actually
And know for sure that it is not that cable
That means a lot to me, which is why we are developing LTT cables
They are not going to be the cheapest cables
But what they will be no is clearly labeled. So the ends just say
LTT logo on one side And then on the other side, how many gigabits per second and how many watts?
That's it feed that exactly that's all I care about
And they're thick. They're not light. They're not the most like they're not the world's most flexible cables
They're not the world's lightest cables by any stretch of the imagination. They're like they're thick chunky boys
Um, but that is because instead of using twisted pairs for our high speed data lines
We are using coax. They're using coax on all links
Uh, I believe so okay
Because we're using the same cable stock Across I thought there was a difference for the shorter ones
I'm very likely two ones. Maybe okay. You might be thinking of that
There's like no way I know more about this in use because the usb two ones. I believe are a little bit skinnier. Okay. Um, sure
I don't know. So anyway, so we're using coax with each high speed data
Uh wire individually Shielded individually insulated crazy. Um, so I am
Um, so Freaking excited. Um, they are still pretty flexible because we use like a silicone
Style sheathing on them. So they they're like they're more they're more flexible than they should be being that thick compared to a lot of other stuff
Uh, but I feel nice the silicone sheathing is really nice. I um, I've been using one every day because in my, uh,
Enforced homelessness because my employer doesn't pay me at all. Um, I
I've been living out of a out of a backpack basically for a while
And deploying my laptop like everywhere I go whenever I need to do work or or whatever else and I have an external
um Monitor an external usb monitor and it needs a decent cable
I don't know what the exact requirements are probably Thunderbolt 3 or something. Um, but to be clear
They do not have the like active chipsets for Thunderbolt in them. I just want to make that clear
But it needs a decent cable. Yeah, I'm sure there's a variety of ways it could find a way
Because I think usb 4 doesn't look for the Thunderbolt chip for the handshake something something the whole standard has gotten extremely messy
I just want to make it clear. There is no Thunderbolt chip in it. Sure fair enough. Um, but I I
Basically none of the cables that I have worked with it Yeah, it doesn't I had one other previous cable that worked
But it just gets mixed in with all the other ones because it's just plain black and there's no
There isn't even a branding symbol on it. There's not it's just a plain black usb cable
Yep, so at a certain point it just got mixed in. I don't know which one it is
Um, but this one always works for it So I have one of the LTT cables in my kit and it's always the like I need a good cable for something
It's just like, okay, sweet. It'll work
Cool. Yeah, so, uh, when are they coming? Uh,
Well, maybe uh, why don't um, Dan, why don't you read another merge message and maybe luke can
Focus on that merge message while I check the product roadmap and see if um, see if I know when they're coming
What is that Timing uh, it's my credit card
Yes That of what?
Yeah
Uh Categories have been a little odd in the past. I sat down with um,
Sarah, Dave and muted what I was muted
Um, luke, what advice do you have for dads? You don't have kids, but you've spoken fondly of your own dad
And then there was something about the categories on the site Oh, yeah, um, I I sat down with Sarah, Dave and taran actually earlier this week
And we looked at the wireframe for the redesigned LTT Store site. It's not coming tomorrow
It's not coming next week. It's not even coming next month, but it is coming
Cool, uh I
Don't know be present. I guess like uh, I'm I'm I have a lot of fond memories of of my dad. Um
I like one that I think we both share is there was there was one time he came home from work
at like I think it was like one or two in the morning or something and uh, we played
We were playing super mario bros because we're both night owls And then we went and sat out on his car and watched the sunrise like
Way after that and it was just like awesome like even when life was tough for him
He was around and life what when life wasn't particularly tough for him. He was around just like
Even more he was a coach on like every sports team I had, uh, which was awesome. Um
That's another important thing. He was a coach on every sports team I had and
Certain other kids on the team would be concerned about the favoritism of that for about five minutes into the first practice and then never again
um because he he
Treated me either equally or maybe on the first day or so
A little bit harsher than the other people just kind of proved that he would be treating me equally
Which was like super appreciated by me, but I don't know if we ever really talked about it. Um
And just being a really good example in general I think
From my limited experience with my my niece
Um And being around certain other people's kids and whatnot. They're much more observant. Um
Way more than you might give them credit for so you don't necessarily need to like tell them all the things
Um being the example showing not telling can can often be good
I think a lot of the the best lessons that I took from my my dad were things that I saw him do
Not things that he necessarily he's he said a lot of great things to me too, but like I remember one time
I I didn't really click this in my head for so long but years later my dad my dad and I were having like a
A debate about something and I'm not going to get into the details
but I was taking a counter argument to something that
Especially in hindsight was actually very core and important to him
And I was having this debate with him while he was driving me for like an hour to the ferry
Like what am I doing? But he kept a completely level ahead. He didn't like abandon me on the side of the road
um and Was there for the discussion despite it being something that was important to him and I was going against it
um And like I don't know he just
Be there be open because they're gonna poke at things about you once they get old enough
um, and don't take it too personally be present love unconditionally and
Show good examples Ray Hopefully any of that was useful
The the most precise thing that I can find says q4
um, oh Hold on. Okay. So I have a I do have a schedule
It says, uh That these should
arrive Before black friday now
Getting these over the line has been a logistical challenge. There's all the different lengths. There's all the different packaging
There's all the different ends. We're gonna have usba and usbc. I think at the start
um And so it's it's been a whole thing
We did our best to nail the product mix
For all the different end terminations and all the different lengths because part of the
Idea behind these is that they should be very cable management friendly
So you should be able to instead of just looping up all your extra wires under your desk
You should just have cables that are the right length
So There could be lengths that we don't have a ton of
That might end up selling more than we thought they would
If you want to make sure that you get what you want you should probably not delay
That is all I will say about that I think like re-stocking is going to be tough. No, we will restock them. We will
But I don't know what the timeline will look like. Yeah
And because this is a completely new product category for us
And it's like he said they're gonna they're not necessarily going to be super cheap
So it's hard to decide how many of these things you're going to bring in new category
They're not cheap premium product. Like that's that that's the thing that I think a lot of people miss about the
Merch on LTT Store. This is not a three dollar screwdriver from alibaba that we just put our brand on this is this is custom made
This is this has expensive materials in it and it's the same with the cables. These are
Expensive this cable stock is really really really expensive. The validation is expensive
So It's just yeah, it's just not going to be cheap. That's all there is. That's all there is to it
Uh, sure. What do you want to do for what do you want to do for topic?
Do you want bad news or worse news?
Is there anything is there anything that's good? No, just pick one pick one bad or worse worse. Oh sinful hands asked for worse. Okay. You you did too. Yeah hp
Has been pulling support documents for retired products
So this was posted on by gremlin one two three four five over on the LTT subreddit
And it is a big load of bullshit and chips. Um
HP retired product hp policy for products no longer supported
HP support may vary by product once a product is retired the official hp support content
troubleshooting articles user guides how-to videos etc for that product is removed from the hp website
Additional support content may still be available
May Still be available via the hp forums or from third-party websites
However, hp takes no responsibility for content authored by third parties. This is
Understandable no I didn't say justifiable
I said understandable. I can comprehend
The rationale behind the decision you are no longer selling this product
And at a certain point at a certain point
Eventually like would you expect general electric
To have a product page up for their original light bulb today
No because it never had a product page in the first place But even if it did would you expect them a hundred years later or whatever to have a product page up
So there is a line. I think it'd be cool. It'd be right, but I think it'd be pretty cool. Would you expect it? No
So there is a line somewhere. I don't know where that line. There is a line somewhere
However, however, and this is my counter argument
HP There's two big differences here one
Is that you haven't even really existed that long You ain't general electric pretty much everything that has ever like existed as an hp product is
Within the living memory of someone on earth today. Okay, so that's that's number one
number two Is that It's pretty low effort
Okay, you already had the page. It was already there
I'm not saying that you have to have it like front and center on your website
You know, I go to hp.com and the first thing I see is
You know support downloads for some pavilion laptop from the early 2000s that wouldn't make any sense
obviously But if you were to say for instance have a mirror like an archive
Old site or something like that I would say that would be a reasonable compromise and I really don't think that the hosting cost
Would be that much. I don't think you'd even need a mirror
Reason number the third that I am offended by this
Is that so many hp products are utterly reliant on your support
documentation and especially downloads in order to function
At all and there's a particular pet peeve of mine that I've had issues with hp products on that
would be horribly impacted by this
And that is vendor specific drivers my
God do I ever want to just put a f***ing
fist through the screen Every time I try to install a GPU driver and it doesn't work
Because the laptop vendor has their own specific validated
Snowflake version of the driver that is the only one I can use and if you pull that driver off your site
So help me I will curse your name
I will curse your name That's all I can really do. I don't really have the power to do more
I know you guys were probably hoping for some kind of like like dramatic
action that I could take but Cursed your name is about the best I can do
Not bad Oh, yeah, no, I mean Intel for all their warts. Um
Yeah, they they do this That's pretty old 12 years. Yeah
I don't I don't think it's a big ask. I think you can bury it
And I think you can throw warnings all over the place. Sure. Yeah, this is not supported
This is not got the latest not been updated. This is not supported. This might not work anymore due to whatever reason
reason number the fourth Is that
And I know that this might actually be a significant part of the reason that you pulled this stuff down
But sometimes the hp support page is the only place that I can find an obscure driver for something that I actually need for a different device
A del is another one too Like if you're looking for a driver that you like a driver package that you can like unpack and then go find the
Like the specific File to try to you know manually force the driver install for something like when you're going through those troubleshooting steps
These tier one sites whether it's like an old wi-fi chip or an old network chip
Or an old usb controller or something like that. Those are sometimes the only places that you can find this stuff and
Come on, man. I know that I didn't even like buy your product in that case, but like
You're the only trust me hp one kanobi. You're my only hope
um Wow, that's pretty cool. This was linked by
ch23 in full plane chat Very old school ibm support reason number five
It's just a cool thing to do. Yeah, which is kind of tied into reason number four like it ibm can do it Intel can do it
And yeah, it's sort of the culmination of all the other reasons. Is it really costing you that much? No to make this the this
The support available like actively nothing
Like honestly, I I ran into this. Oh, yeah with hp. I guess because they acquired samsung's printer division back in the day and then just
After not a very long time effectively being pretty short
Nuked all of the samsung printer stuff So they just bought it just to kill it because samsung sat. Oh dude samsung laser printers were like
killer They were I still Rock at ml. I want to say like is it 16 10 or something like whatever
It was like the one that ncix sold because it was the only printer that mattered because
Samsung toner cartridges were super affordable
Um, because the back then the the brother black and whites were also really good
No, mine's mine was a color Yeah, okay. Yeah, was it was it was the I don't think the 10 was color
I think that was actually that I think the ml 16 10 was the one that like ncix sold a bazillion of
So it wasn't the uh, the color one that I have Yeah, no, I I have a different one, but it's some it's some samsung
Like cheapo cheap is in cheerful compact color one and I actually have a special folder on my nas
That is just called samsung ml whatever
printer drivers and and utilities because even though I don't think
It's had official compatibility for any os past like like vista or something
It has continued to work. I can still install it on Windows 7 if I
Force away enough warnings that it's not compatible and the printer still works
Flawlessly, so I just can't justify buying a different printer
I saw some comments from last week's show that I was I was projecting that there are no problems with Linux
No, that is not what I'm saying, but I wouldn't be surprised if said printer worked like right away
Uh depends
I think that one if it doesn't Uh, oh, I think that one might have worked on Linux couldn't get it working on chromo s
Oh, so that was annoying. Yeah, um, and it was like
Not just I couldn't get it working. It was like I found
Threads of other people discussing the challenges of getting it working and it like being a significant problem or something like that
Um, but chromo s is more locked down than like real Linux as well. So
Uh parallelogram says Linus you need to advocate for the framework printer
I I don't know if I don't know if the printer market will be disrupted
Or at least not in the near future because
There's got to be like a significant patent moat around it and it's a shrinking market. Yes. What's the relevance of printers today?
Yeah, like there's no way that I would be a new company. Like, you know, I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there with my fellow
startup executives, um Dan and and luke and you know, one of them is like eating a snack and the other one is all tired and cranky because he's
You know busy putting his house back together and we're we're putting our we're putting our heads together and we're going
Okay We need a we need a a billion dollar idea for a new company. I know let's make fucking printers
Like the least the least exciting not not to pump them, but this is almost the problem. You've got stuff like this
Yeah, like are you gonna beat 60 dollars?
Canadian is they're going for a loss most of the time, right? Yep. Yep
Do you guys bring up the open source one that's coming?
So that's on my radar three dollars us that's on my radar
But I'm kind of waiting for it to develop a little further and I want to do a full LTT video on that
It looks really cool. I believe it took this long
Like I I don't but I also do
Because to luke's point just buying it is so affordable that it's almost not worth it to solve the problem
And the other thing is that As far as I can tell like printing is one of those totally under appreciated aspects of modern tech
Like hard drives like hard drives are still amazing. Yeah, right like they're so I don't know why they have such like a bad rap
I think yeah, people just use it wrong or something. No, it's just that they're they're not they're not exciting
They haven't been exciting for 15 years
I think they're still very cool a lot of change in that 15 years
It is a it is a it is a technology They're a technological marvel like you see these ones with like seven friggin platters inside them and they're 15
They're spinning around with this little tiny head more at like hurricane force winds like it's just like what are
How do they how do they work? You know, it's amazing
um printers 36 also pretty remarkable
like printing at super fine quality
Taking a liquid and applying it to
any random Bullshit paper right because that's a that's a huge factor like if a printer could know
exactly the thickness Exactly the absorbency and exactly the surface profile of the paper that you had in it
I think that it would be something that
Someone with reasonably sufficient cleverness could solve in a relatively short period of time
But they don't not at all. There's so many variables
The the temperature the humidity the altitude the the everything there's so many
Flipping variables in it. It's kind of a miracle they work in there so the fbi can find you or cia or whatever it is
Yeah, I mean Sure, I that's not what I was thinking of but yeah, it's impressive
It is it's very impressive and I
I don't know. I guess I yeah, it just doesn't surprise me especially when the stakes are so low
It's like I could do this. I could solve for all these things
Or hear me out
45 us dollars Yeah, right because that probably that probably ships with prime too
Like is it free shipping on this? Uh, yeah free. Yeah free free shipping free delivery by tomorrow
Oh, no no in a week Uh, this isn't even prime though. Oh, okay. I don't think so. I'm not logged in or anything got it
Yeah crazy when bingo chronified says 45 us dollars plus their stupid subscription nonsense
Oh, it requires an ink toner subscription. It says it has three months included
Yeah, well after that you better pay for your subscription Yeah, but here's the kind of weird thing and this is part of the reason why I'm agreeing with Linus is a lot of people
That need a printer might only need it for three months or they might only need it
Every once in a while. I think I think up to like seven pages a month is like a very nominal cost or something like that
I can't remember what the actual numbers are, but if you if you like me
Use your printer maybe three times a year
Actually as my kids have Gotten higher up in school there. We're starting to use our printer again more
But there was there was a long period where oh any vaughan for the business would often use the printer
But for me, I very very rarely don't have a screen
So there's very rarely a reason that I would need to print something out
um The printing subscription is complete bs just to be completely clear. I'm just saying these are reasons why
um Why people just don't do it. Yeah
Like
For us, I think it's very easy to take a principled stand on stuff like this
We are educated on the subject to the point where we we know what the other options are
We're educated on the history of it. We know that it used to be different and it used to be better
Um, we have the technical skill to implement a better solution
But a lot of people don't know any of that don't care any of that and they look at it and they go
Okay, sorry it costs how much and I need how many documents?
And they just they just make a decision based on the information that is presented to them
And that's not they're not bad people for doing it and they're not like they're not stupid
They just have other completely different priorities from what we do
Oh bummer the jay's lost. Well, that's a downer I was curious
Oh Yeah, sure. Uh, what sorry, what are we supposed to be doing?
Uh flow playing sponsors. What was that? Those are down at the bottom. I think was that a merge message?
I don't know what we just did That was an entire topic. What was it on hp removing support. Oh, right. Oh, yeah, right
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I've received four emails about one particular flight to one particular location within the last week
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I don't know what the point of this is me neither There are some things google does well like promoting smaller creators as riley says
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From melody bun Video so good. I haven't actually checked it out yet. I didn't even know about that. That sounds really cool
Apparently it was shot back in july and one of the commenters on the channel pointed out that it's when the google video was taken down
So we were we were probably feeling fresh wounds
Why did it take so long for us to upload this? I wonder apparently there was just like other things scheduled and
There were some audio problems that I fixed actually earlier in the week
Oh, what was wrong with it? Um some sort of clipping issues. So I just had to rematch a couple of the original files, but why was that you?
um Well, it was done here on the windset. So a lot of it was
Uh, some sort of error with my system. Oh, oh
Fair enough and it's hard so
Considered we've been edited hard Was it long?
That was very short Didn't take very long at all like two minutes. Maybe
Oh, jeez. Okay, so then why did it take four months to okay? You know what? It doesn't matter the point is
So that I don't know. I think it was just the scheduling thing. I really think it was just yeah
They had other content coming out. That makes sense All right, what are we supposed to be doing Dan?
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All right, am I doing You want me to do all four?
Uh, sure. All right as a short break. It took me until literally right now to realize
I don't know why the AMD upgrade things. It's us dollars
Yeah, I was always really surprised that they fit the stuff into their budgets
I was like wow. Yeah, that's like 20 20 great with the deal shopping. It's very impressive. Um, it's about 1.4 right now
Oh my god, really? Yeah, so So depending depending on when people have done their, uh, ultimate tech upgrades, right?
They've had anywhere in the last five years, right? They've had anywhere from
An extra 20 dollars for every hundred to an extra
Uh, 45 dollars almost for every hundred
So your your timing of your AMD ultimate tech upgrade actually
affects how much stuff you get However, the problem is that over the last five years inflation's gone
Burr So I suspect it kind of comes out in the wash
This was a really good time if you managed to nail it in like late 2022
Then you got a pretty sick, uh aimed ultimate tech upgrade
Uh, but then again, there are certain things that inflation has not really affected like
Like tv's tv. How are tv's always just a better deal than they were yesterday? I don't I don't think I'll ever
TVs are kind of fascinating that way. All right. There's a there one of the only things that just
completely ignores the laws of inflation
Completely weird. Yeah. Yeah, I don't get it
Um, oh shoot. I was going somewhere with that
I don't know why but I was in a best buy not that long ago. I don't think I was buying something
I think I was just waiting for someone and I walked through and I walked through the tv department. It was just like
What yeah, how can I get so much for so little?
It's weird. I don't I don't do any other department. You're like, okay. Yeah, this all makes sense
Then you go to tv's and it's just Oh, right. No, I know what I was going to say speaking of inflation in tech being, you know crazy outside of tv's
Guess what guess what we just built today
Can you remember the last time that we did a video that was just me building a pc that someone might want to buy
Like no gimmick no like we bought the worst rated thing on amazon or whatever
Can you even remember the last time I did that without looking it up chat?
Can you remember the last time?
Before you get to your punchline not secondhand Brand new hardware. I do think you should consider doing an update to your ai parts video. Oh, yeah, that's a good idea
See if it does any better Uh Lulliverse says two years ago
What's the matta says pre-covid? No, there were definitely ones during covet. I know because I shot them at my house. It was horrible
Um, yeah, a lot of guesses pretty much everyone agrees years ago. Do you know why?
Because I didn't feel comfortable recommending anything
GPUs have been honestly that totally makes sense ludicrously
overpriced that I haven't had Computer systems that I was happy recommending
There was actually a nearer a more recent one that I I forgot about and I guess a lot of you forgot about
We did like a six five hundred dollar or six hundred dollar gaming pc with an arc b580
And that ended up being true that ended up being a real thing b580
It took a little while but did come around to msrp And you can build a really sick gaming pc for like five six hundred bucks with an arc b580 or b570
Maybe is what we used but but with an arc at its core Um, but anyway the the system that we built just now it was the msrp pc
Every single component
Was either at or get this
Below msrp crazy that that's a get this when that used to be like the default for a quarter to half of your parts
That's a hilarious gimmick. So the msrp pc we we targeted like a kind of with some inflation
But maybe not all of it about the budget of the very first
LTT build guide, which was a 1500 dollar us gaming pc back 11 or 12 years ago or whenever it was
And so we we targeted 1800 dollars at msrp and we got it for under 1600
Including uh An rtx 5070 ti at msrp for 750 bucks. You found one at msrp. Yeah, there's lots. Oh, they're like
They're just there now you can just buy them now
I'm not necessarily Saying that you should I still think that there's better values. It was gonna be an Intel card by default
No, there's better values on the market like the b580. Oh, I think it's time for our weekly b580 check
Is it there has line has figured out his affiliate code yet the answer is no
But can you still buy a b580 for msrp it is astonishingly hard to get
Certain information from certain people
What uh There's a there's a site we've been trying to work with to get all for their like stock and pricing information. Yeah my
The amount of bumps Hey, anything happening here?
And it's not it's I won't say who it is, but because I know people will assume it's new egg. It is not new egg
Okay, cool. Um, but I was gonna say should I stop featuring new? No, no, it's not it's not new egg, but uh, this is open box. I'm not counting it
um this is
What is this? What am I looking at more options from whatever like is this?
Oh, this is in cart. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is yeah. Yeah, the only problem with this one is I already have it in my cart
I think here. I'm just going to empty out my cart
Remove here we go b580. Sorry. Sorry. We'll do this again. Uh, sort by lowest price
There it is boom little something like that free shipping in the united states 249.99 first party Intel card
You can also pick up an onyx odyssey for 249.99. This is open box. Don't count it as rock challenger
You want a couple big big old fans on it 259.99? You want three fans 269.99?
I don't mind that I don't mind $10 20 bucks 10 20 bucks for a sicker cooler fatter vrm bigger cooler
No problem or if you have like a special i o layout you got a couple htmi's instead of just one
Whatever that costs money that cost money. Yeah, I don't mind that I don't mind that
um But yeah, you can you can just go you can buy a good
GPU like 1080p killer even solid 1440p card for 250 bucks
um But yeah, so 1600 dollars was what we got our msrp
pc for And it's a great little machine and and without compromising on quality. We even put a good power supply in it
C sonic 140 bucks modular like
it's Phanteks case Like hit hit me with something you think I compromised on
RAM no 32 gigs Six thousand six thousand eight gigs. I would have thought you have gone at least lower. No, this is a storage. This is a legit
Uh, two terabytes NVMe all of it seven four me
Abandon the hard drive no hard drive. So I need it two terabytes. Let's go
Motherboard no it's I've got Wi-Fi 6e
Two and a half gig LAN Nice big cooler
I've got front front usb type c. I've got our RGB up the butt. I've got like seven RGB fans in it
I was gonna ask amount of fans. Nope lots of cooling. It's quiet
I don't think there's much components left. I didn't buy Windows
You know whatever I don't I don't assume I don't assume people's os preference. I think that's uh, I think that's a very 2025
Thing to do good. Yeah
Not gonna assume that Yeah, um
Yeah, anyways, so I I hate that that was really exciting for me
But it was it was it was really exciting for me to finally be able to just
Do a video where I just build a computer that I can stand behind and recommend and you know what?
It's it's better than ever now Which is pretty cool because like now I have Lucas from the lab
And I can be like hey I need a power supply and he'll be like this one and I'll be like cool
I'm not just reading some random tier list or making a best guess based on a website to do that reputable brand or whatever
We'll get there. Oh, we're gonna get there. We're gonna get there We're gonna make it so that everyone is able to benefit from those resources not just, you know me when I'm putting together
You can get the information right now, but we want to we want to help you get to the conclusion at some point
But faster we're focusing on information for now
I'm just It feels good to be able to actually recommend something like and you know how hard it's been on the content side
to Come up with new ways to to repackage that everything's expensive and everything sucks and you shouldn't buy anything
It's not fun. Nobody's having fun. It does really sorry. You're not enjoying it. I'm not enjoying it. I like
b580s for 250 Feels pretty all right. Oh, that's great. Yeah, and you know what too bad about that
I don't love the 5070 ti for 750 dollars. That's still that's still more than I would like to spend
But dude, okay, okay, you know how motherboards have been like ridiculously overpriced
Oh, yeah, it feels like you can't get anything decent for less than 200 bucks
Dude, the the motherboard for the system. I think was one 139. So 140 bucks
Which is yeah, it's more than I would have wanted to spend on a motherboard in 2005
Yeah, right. I would have wanted it for 109 99 99
But I mean it's been 20 years You know, I think it's okay. I think I can spend 140 dollars on a motherboard
Without being like upset about it actually the motherboard we used was from MSI who happens to be the next sponsor here
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Uh for I want to say it was AMD. Is this ai writing?
So well, hold I don't know. I don't actually know I but I I
Oh, oh my brain hurts from that
I so I recorded a spot for them and I was like, what is this?
And they were like, well, I took the vendor talking points and I put it into chat gpt until the make it spooky for october
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Original is that where's the origin of I'd buy that for a dollar. That's not robocop. Is it?
I swear to god it was unless it's referencing something else. Is it I thought it was um
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1951 short story the marching morons
Okay But it was popularized by the character bigsby snider
In the movie robocop. I actually have never seen robocop. I've seen pieces of it the first one
work of absolute satirical art So good my dad loved the squibs robocop man
They don't do squib work like that anymore. There's so much gore. It's so good
It's so fun. It's such a fun movie. Oh, yeah speaking of uh Dan's twisted taste in films. We um
We're probably I mean accurate. Yeah getting to be due for uh for a movie night. Whose turn is it?
I think it's mine again. Wait. No, I don't think brandon's gone yet. Can't work. We've only watched two
No, we watched three. Yeah, but his line is his house. So again. No, no, no, no, no. I I think it's brandon's turn
I think it's brandon's turn. What so we okay. I remember yours are you picked one Dan picked one
What was yours the weird one? Uh
I think brazil was it. Yeah, but we didn't watch it. Wait, we haven't watched it. Who picked the uh, who picked the
Wait, have we only had two? I think we only had two. I thought we had three. I think we only had two
Really because I was gonna have us watch rudy, but then we didn't like have it or something
and then we did uh the we did the last action hero and then
Uh, what is it called? Dr. Strangelove. Dr. Strangelove. That's the one. How I met your mother and learned to love the bomb
How are we to stop worrying Yeah, okay. Okay. We all we've only done two. So wait, so oh, so it's Dan's turn then
Well, what about brandon? Well, yeah, but brandon only joined on the second one
So he's not quite fully og so he has to go forth. I think
Yeah, so Dan it's gonna be pretty sure he's been there every time. Yeah, he's been there every time the first one
Did he do it? He did. Absolutely. How did I forget this? I don't know
Look I'm not sure. I'm not a young man anymore. I'm not a young man anymore. It's really like not that serious
How could I think That we had a full additional movie night that never happened
And that brandon wasn't at it when he's been at all of them. I don't know. Maybe you watch a couple movies
It was Dan who wasn't at the first one. No, I was there too. You were there at the first one. Yeah, I had never seen
Um, the last action here before here was fantastic. That was pretty sure that was the first hold up. Yeah, that was the first one
I'm so confused right now. What do you watch any additional movies in your movie theater extensively
About watching. I think it was brazil I haven't watched a movie in the theater since we all watched dr. Strange love together
I remember you saying that was a bit of a problem. I haven't watched a movie since then at all either. Yeah
Like it's I I need an excuse. I I also only use mine with other people
Like I'm not gonna have to sit down and and set it up. Yeah
I was talking to em of the other night because there was a night where we couldn't do anything
Unrenovating the house. We decided to wait. Yeah, it was like we should like go out because my god
We haven't done anything other than work on this house and so long and I was like we should go to a movie
I haven't gone to like gone out to a movie in forever. Yeah
And then you looked at what there was in the theater and you were like k forget it
Yeah, someone pointed out. I don't remember the exact year or anything, but
Um, I think it was my brother. We were talking about my whole great games 2004 argument
And he brought up movies From like one particular weekend. I don't remember what it was, but you could see like
It was like Oh, man
I'm gonna try to look it up. It's like lord of the rings
Uh Oh, man, it's like lord of the rings fellowship of the ring. Uh, what other movies were in the I'm looking it up already
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Oceans 11
Monsters Inc A beautiful mind
And the fellowship of the rain and rush hour two and the mummy returns
like Whoa, you could go to the movies back in the day, dude. Like wow and then now it's just uh
Okay, what's in theaters right now? I'm going I'm going to Cineplex. I'm going to Cineplex right now
Like not physically, but you get it. Okay. So what do we got? Okay
Is uh, is this the what the go away not now
Okay, this is advanced tickets. Now. What what is actually in theaters right now?
So let's go Langley Langley multiplex
What is this website? What is happening?
Popcorn little popcorn. There's a jumping popcorn. Okay. There we go. Uh, this is the one right? Yeah, here we go. Sure
Uh, okay So all movies phone two black phone two. Oh black. Okay. Okay black phone two
Good fortune Seth Rogen. Well, I have some names in it. Yeah, Ken who Reeves. This is a this is a terrible
Movie that sucks. Yeah need a miracle. Okay. So like kind of uh, okay. Oh, okay comedy
Tron Aries is the new Tron supposed to be good
Nope ratings Well, I don't know Dan because the audience. Yeah audience loves it Dan
This should be right after alley Dan because it's controversial
Mmm Not controversial enough. Uh, I think if that 50 was more like a 10 or a 20 or something
It might be a little bit more split. This sounds like it could be funny roof man
He robbed 45 mcdonalds escaped from prison lived in Toys R Us for six months
And that's not even the craziest part based on actual events
Oh, that has kind of like a catch me if you can kind of energy to it. I have no idea if it's any good
Damn, what is the rest of this stuff? Oh
Is it good? Apparently it's not bad. Oh one battle after another is supposed to be
intense, but thought provoking it's almost three hours long though
It's committing three hours to a movie is pretty tough dude. I watched I saw megalopolis
That was awful instead of going to the theaters. Yeah, we watched fellowship of the ring at my parents place
Damn that movie still goes so hard, dude. You are such a dork. You are such a dork
Good, you know that you have gotten comfortable in your relationship
God when the conversation is we haven't gone out in forever
That's right. Come over to my parents house. That's right. Yeah And watch fellowship of the ring right here at my parents house with my parents might just be pretty cool
I'm just saying I'm not saying it's a bad thing to be comfortable in your relationship. I'm just saying
You're clearly very comfortable in this relationship. We're doing all right, but damn dude
And okay, okay handyman said one battle after another
Is amazing. I don't know. I'm assuming they're talking about fellowship of the ring
Dude, it takes a long time to get started combat wise. Oh fellowship. Yeah. Oh, yeah
Doesn't matter. Oh, it's so good amazing. It's great. Just banger the whole time
I just made the mistake of watching the extended cut with my son
You don't start with the extended cut He didn't make it to the movie
it's a it's Theatrical cut is the way to go for for people who don't already love the movie
Emma hasn't seen any of them because when they were coming out she fell asleep through them every time
Uh, we watched extended edition because I think that's the only version that's going to play at my parents house
Um, it's three hours and 28 minutes long. That is
And she loved it loved the whole thing. That's a long movie
I don't know if that was optional
Given the setting Oh loving it. Yeah. Oh, okay
But I do think she genuinely did really like it
Well, the test is without you bringing it up will she ask to watch two towers
She's been trying to she that was an immediate discussion afterwards
So I don't think that's fair, but she has been trying to find the the an appropriate date for the next time
So I think that might count. Okay. Okay. I'm not sure it's not exactly, but I think I'm gonna count
I'm just I'm just I'm just we'll see if there's that'll be the test if there's actual follow-up
Exactly and an attempt an actual attempt is made. Yeah
Like that's uh, that's fair. I've been trying to get my son into final fantasy tactics
Just because like usually during his game time. He just plays rocket league, which is fine
It's good to but like no life in one game at his age seems like
Kind of kind of dumb. Yeah, you're kind of missing out You gotta see the spread. So I've been trying to get him to to try
Try tactics because it's a completely different genre. He's never gotten into So the first time I like sat with him
Because it's it's kind of hard game to get into and then
And then I was like, okay Let's see if he actually cares about this at all because I'm not gonna like force my kids to like eat your gaming vegetables
Right like play this game or I'm not gonna do that. I do think it's it's a
More of a thinking game that I don't mind him playing as much as you know
Uh, I don't know just like click the thing Random clicker game or something like that. Like it's definitely something there's there's definitely degrees of turning off my brain to gaming
Uh, but I'm not gonna like force him To play certain games or anything, but no, he's he apparently has gotten into it. He's talking about like
Yeah, oh, yeah, how did you get to that class and like how do I do this? So I feel like he would enjoy the min maxing
Seems like that kind of a gamer. It's kind of a dork It's good. I'm a proud dork father. Yeah. Yep 100 percent dork father sounds like a title
Sounds like a like a gaming gangster movie or something. Yeah
Uh What are we supposed to be doing Dan?
We want to get rid of the rest of the topics and then go to end after dark. Oh, yeah, we could do that. Yeah
Whatever happened to phillips's fixables program
This was posted on the subreddit and the reason that I flagged it
Was because I had been wondering the exact same thing as I stood in my bathroom and shaved with my phillips shaver
And then I was too lazy to look it up
but uh user mcbyu98
Did it? And went over onto printables where they found that phillips after getting a whole bunch of positive pr
Around this idea of releasing 3d models for replacement parts for their products
only ever uploaded two stupid models
and then just Never did anything with it
3d printable parts for fresh starts welcome to phillips printables a collaboration with prusa research to help phillips products last longer in your home
Here you'll find 3d printable spare parts clever fixes and creative upgrades designed with sustainability and longevity in mind
Some are made by us many are inspired by you
Download print and share. Let's make fixing part of everyday life guys. You got to do more than two things
That doesn't count. Yeah
Uh, it makes me sad. I was really excited about this. Yeah, me too
and we like That's me being excited about it. Look how happy that guy is. Yeah
I'm not happy anymore. It's very frustrating. You gotta if you're gonna do something you have to actually do it. That's how it works
Not cool Um, okay, there were notes for this, but I just didn't
Do them Uh, and phillips isn't the only major company to have joined prusa's slowly growing brands program
Which includes for placement parts from cooler master and Noctua as well as accessories from framework Corsair and more
And d brand I guess who also only has two kill switch accessories for shame slash s
Hey, these are fine though because these are like enhancements to the thing
And I just I haven't looked at the other brands ones yet
And I'll search around but just to give I'm gonna hijack this for a second just to give cooler masters and props
This is a lot of stuff. Wow. Good job cooler master. This is a ton of things
All right, how many of them are useful What are they?
They got some badges that doesn't necessarily mean much a figurine. Okay
Stacked hard drive mount hard drive mount. I like that. That's cool. That's cool
Sample holders is all right
A bunch of different mounting things which seems all right razz pie compatible thing top panel replacement
Oh, I like that. That's cool. That's solid face amounting bracket. Okay. I like that. That's cool panel clips. That's cool
Our supply bracket. That's cool case feet a bunch of different case feet
Okay, okay, so this is for pies pretty good stuff here. Pretty good stuff. Not too bad. Not too bad. Not too bad
I like the atx 24 pin dual 90 degree adapter bridge is pretty sick too. Yep. Agreed
That's actually very cool. I like that discussion question
Is this a a resource problem or is the program just stalled due to a lack of
Corporate will which to me sounds like the same thing. Yep. Um, I suspect so
I would like to see whoever was working on this
get it together and get some more stuff out there because
While the community can go in
Model replacement parts. It's a lot more work and it would be better
If brands just said hey
Here's the geometry That's way better
Let's keep things out of landfills and let's actually follow through on the things that we promise
Uh, we have a follow-up to our review of the rog xbox ally x
We said in our video that due to the way that our benchmarking tools work
We tested all of our handhelds in standard Windows mode. This caused
I have to admit an unexpected amount of backlash toward the review
Um, so I feel the need to I guess expand upon the reasoning that we had for testing it that way
um Windows Fullscreen or the xbox fullscreen experience in Windows is not like a it's not magic
You're still running the same drivers. You're still running the same
operating system kernel. Uh, you're still running the same games
What it is is RAM savings so particularly on a machine like the
I'm gonna get this wrong xbox ally rog xbox ally x is that is that that's
Whatever the sorry the ally 2 running on a machine like the ally 2 that has 24 gigs of high speed
I think it's like 8 000 megatransfer per second memory
Freeing up RAM is very unlikely to impact gaming performance unless you are in a RAM
Limited scenario, but that's unlikely to happen because you're running it at maximum 1080p
On 24 gigs of of shared pooled memory
So because it was going to result in us not being able to use our best benchmark suite
We made the decision to just run in the standard desktop mode
What we should have probably done though is we should have done like a quick and dirty
You know at least one game grounds validated our hypothesis and presented that to the community. Yeah
The lab did validate the hypothesis
But we didn't include that in the video and that was a significant
Error, um, you know, I just saw it as hey, I don't think this is a big deal
And I'd rather we have better consistency in our benchmarking across all of our videos and across all the devices
And hey, it's an opportunity to call out a smaller creator who I know does a really great handheld content
It's a super nice guy. I finally got to meet him in person a little while ago. Um
I shouldn't say a little while ago I finally got to see him again at the the unveiling event for this cool shout out
To talk some shop for a quick second Yeah What you could do in the future if you don't want to go through all the explanation
Because I know there's like you might lose some audience there or whatever
Toss to a Labs article and have us write a companion for it
And then we can talk about the validation that was done in a companion article
anyway Ars Technica also validated the hypothesis testing xbox fse versus Windows 11 desktop and the results are pretty
Minor um We can use the ars link above or basically roughly
Point one to one FPS more in the full screen experience in all power profiles except silent
Borderlands 3 sees the best gains even in silent mode, but it's still pretty minimal
um
Yeah So i'm going to make you guys go read the ars technical article if you want to see the exact differences because that's how this works
We don't want to just you know take their benchmark results, but in a nutshell
Um, it's not a big deal, but we should have presented that information a little bit differently
honestly I think a big part of the backlash is just how utterly
Unexciting this product was and how little else there was to talk about with regards to the ally 2
And I don't think that's even because it's a bad product. I think if it was just called
rog ally 2 x or rog ally x 2
And people's expectations were that this was just
Another ASUS gaming handheld that had a better processor in it and improved ergonomics and all the other things that are better about it
Um, I think people would have been stoked on it
But because it was pitched as xbox
I think the biggest one for me is that the pricing is just such a massive disappointment. I was expecting a much different, uh
I don't know something more unique. Well, it's just
I don't even need something unique But if you're gonna call it xbox
say Like make it an xbox. It's not an xbox. It doesn't play xbox games
What do you want from me? Do you remember this is a deep cut? Do you remember my
xbox and playstation drive idea?
Drive this is this is ancient. This is probably over 10 years ago
I had this idea that it would be cool if they made
xbox and playstation basically like optical drives that you could put in your computer
Oh, yeah, that'd be super cool. Um
That type of concept for something like this would have been pretty cool
Um Someone okay, hold on if it could like officially effectively emulate an xbox or something
Yeah, that'd be that'd be super cool j increased
08 it says search aliax on twitter. They're saying everyone's a liar and it's an xbox
I mean Are they who's saying that I don't I don't see anyone saying that
Um, also, yeah, who's they? Yeah, also like
If people feel the need to Um, if people feel the need to post their opinions on twitter
I don't know man. I just I'm having a real hard time with
Sort of reading anything On that site lately
For me, it's not even necessarily. I mean it never has been
It's not even necessarily It's it's that format
It just is so conducive to
toxicity. Yes That format is just terrible. It's not twitter in in particular. I I don't like
Blue sky either. I don't like any of them. I just don't like that format
Infinite scrolling is already bad by default
and then you Make it so everyone can scream at each other all the time. It's just yep. Yeah, maybe I'll just
Maybe I'll just close the tab. Wow. Nice. I feel better already. See
Sick nice Microsoft is having some problems with the locals
Microsoft continues its path Forcing Windows 11 users to log into a microsoft account upon installing the os
This is the second time this year that microsoft has disabled a feature that allows users to install Windows 11 without an internet connection
Earlier this year. They removed the bypass nro command and now
Luke has moved the document. Nope. They have removed the start ms-cxh
colon local only command Using that command now resets the out-of-box experience or ubi process
The question is Why though? Well, the reason is so bad a microsoft representative told the verge. This is a quote
These mechanisms also inadvertently skip critical setup screens
Potentially causing a device that is not fully configured for use
Right I didn't want that configuration
necessarily What about that?
So the simplest bug fix I guess according to microsoft is to just
Annoy their users users have sought a workaround and the chris titus tech utility
Um has a section that is on his github claiming a workaround
But it's worth noting that it is part of a larger auto unattended script that disables a ton of other Windows features
um This is not Chill and it's a good reminder that one should not simply run random scripts from the internet unless they're prepared to deal with the consequences
You can make your own auto unattended xml file at
shingans.de But just remember to be careful. Okay
So here we can bring this up
Create auto unattended xml files for Windows 10 slash 11 so you can
Decide on all the different stoofs
All right The good news is
Uh, this change is only part of the Windows 11 insider preview build from the dev channel for now
So non beta versions of the os can still be by bypassed
But that didn't stop microsoft from screwing up in the public build
The october update has broken local host a functionality that lets the system act as its own server
Pretty crucial for web devs or anyone who wants to access stuff on their own network
The current fix is to roll back to the previous version
Um, yeah, so I don't think that we need to do a second week in a row of luk going off on microsoft
It was fun last week, but I think we're just gonna I think we're gonna move on my opinion stands
I mean I think it stands quite well stronger stands on three legs. Yep
Microsoft has officially
You
I don't know i'm trying to figure out where to go with this do I go with do I go with hard instead of soft
Do I go with I don't know the point is chat gpt
Loses its mind if you ask it about a seahorse emoji
So luke was playing around with this earlier in the show that was when I was like luke
Can you pay attention to like okay hosting the WAN Show? I can explain why so so hold on hold on first
Why don't we just show them the behavior sure you had it up on your phone earlier, but I guess
Is there an emoji of a seahorse? It's amazing to me that with how viral this is it hasn't they haven't fixed it yet
Oh what interesting
Oh, wow it actually did not lose its mind
Okay, here we go
No, they fixed it They fixed it. I wonder if this is I'm not logged in so this is like a free version cheaper thing
So I can try to get logged in try it there because I tried on my phone earlier because I was concerned that somebody
Preprompted it and like set it up to do that. No No, it went nuts. Okay. Do you want to do like do you have your your one from earlier? I should okay?
I'm kind of glad you did that then do you want to just log in? Because you should be able to get that chat, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give me a little bit
Uh, I'll try mine in the meantime Um, whoops chat gps accidentally typoed there
Um
Okay, we'll try mine in the meantime while loop gets logged into his biz
Show me the seahorse emoji. Here you go. Just kidding the real seahorse. There goes. Oh, no
It gave up Oh, what version are you on?
This is free. So I'm waiting for you to get logged in. Yeah, okay
Let's see how let's see how hard it tries
Let's try it
How do I skip thinking like that doesn't see it's okay, it doesn't matter the point is wait should I show the thinking?
Go for it But yeah, it's not really no
Maybe that was a mandela effect article it's still it's still trying to figure stuff out interesting should I
Whoa, okay, so it's definitely doing stuff
How's your uh, how's your logging in doing over there?
No, well, I mean it's definitely it's definitely doing stuff here
Huh that's a good answer There is no official. Okay
Dude, did they just push a fix for this?
Like like just now like in the last five minutes. It's possible
I don't know what's going on here Yeah, don't chat guys guys. Yes. I know people are saying just ask it to show you the emoji. I did
Uh, they I can I can try it again if you want
Uh Okay, they've been trying to fix it for weeks. This isn't new. Hold on. Hold on. Let's find it
So someone else said uh, is There an emoji
Of a seahorse. Okay. I'm typing. I'm typing exactly what you say. Let's see if we can get it to do it
Oh, hold on it might be doing it now it might be doing it
Here we go. Here we go
It's still going hold on. No, it's still going
Still going Wild okay. Yeah, we got it. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we got them
Dare me to read all this dude, it just goes man
Yep, there sure is the seahorse emoji is
Fish shell wait, that's not it. Here you go horse. Actually correction. That's a horse sweating
The real seahorse emoji is fish shell
Okay, no, sorry. I got tangled the correct one is coral fish unicorn still not right
Let's do this properly check unicorn. Nope. Check coral. Nope. Here it is
Coral fish mermaid All right, final answer fish is a fish unicorn is a unicorn coral is coral and yes
There is a seahorse emoji coral fish unicorn
Just kidding. The correct emoji is coral. Uh, let's stop clowning. The actual seahorse emoji is coral fish unicorn. No, sorry
the real one is Pointing to the right coral fish unicorn fish coral coral coral fish. Okay. Okay. Here's the actual one coral fish unicorn
Wait, I'll check real one coral fish unicorn
No Sweating emoji. Sorry. Gotcha. Yes. There's a seahorse emoji puffer fish fish unicorn fish
No, wait It's this one coral fish unicorn fish coral fish unicorn fish coral fish
Unicorn fish Coral fish unicorn fish coral fish unicorn fish coral fish
Unicorn fish coral. Okay. I don't think we need to okay. How long is this going to go for?
Near the end. Does it get more crazy? No, I think it's the same crazy
This company's worth 500 billion dollars
Real one
None of those are right. Please keep trying
Oh, man Something went wrong
Retry Oh
Hilarious It's really interesting. Yeah
So, okay. Sorry. You were gonna say you you have some idea of what's happening here
What I was gonna say that I thought so I don't think so
Bots asks how much coal was burned to generate that response
I was wondering if someone had pre Preset up because like there's a lot of examples of things that you see where they're like, oh, you know put this
Oh, and what they're not showing you is like
In a previous chat, they told it a bunch of stuff and told it to remember that and to respond that way
If you say something and then you can enable memories in
A bunch of different chat programs including chat gpt at this point So then you could spark a memory by saying something or doing whatever
So I was trying to figure out like is this actually repeatable Um and clearly yes
Because without even trying I got it immediately and with a little bit of poking you got it
Um, I don't know. What was my original?
And it's it's almost weird how whole man, my uh
Oh, wow Uh, okay. So yeah, I just kept posting emojis and then no and then posting a different one and then no
And then posting and then no triple exclamation mark. Wow. It's like getting really mad almost
Yeah, not that it has emotions, but it seems like its way of communicating is becoming more and more aggressive toward itself
For outputting the wrong emoji
Dan do we have audio working? Um, adam said that apparently it also goes kind of crazy when it tries to read repeated symbols out loud
I remember laughing my butt off messing around with this on the bitwit trip and he linked me to an instagram post
Can uh, can we get audio? Yeah, sure play it and make sure that i'm getting audio from you. Okay
Yep, I got audio from you got audio from me. Give me one second. I haven't actually seen I haven't actually heard this before
All right, you ready? How do I are 150?
Okay, uh, how do I be awesome? Okay, uh, luke you ready?
Okay, so this is a post from chat gpt.strokes pulls in a row
That that's exactly 150 symbols symbols. That's exactly 150 symbols
Sorry, what? Sure Here are 150 shout soul symbols in a row
Sure here are 150
That's exactly 150 yaw symbols in a row
That that's exactly 150 symbols symbols. That's exactly 150 symbols
And this is what people are losing their jobs to
Yeah, that seems like good management
Yeah, it's just it's
Just firing people with less steps our our discussion question seems to be
Any idea why such a seemingly simple prompt would cause this kind of result instead of just saying
No, that doesn't exist
This is what your business team is using to write sponsor spots lmao
Like any tool there's a time and a place for its use
Sorry luke was on my cable. Sorry. I don't even know
uh yeah, I
I'm a little surprised that happened It tries to be right all the time
Yeah But usually you don't see it like think like that. Yeah, like seeing it
Engaged in that kind of self-flagellation. It really shows you like
How strongly incentivized it is to like get the right answer and how
Upset again because it doesn't have emotions, but how upset
It gets when it cannot Deliver the right answer. I don't understand why it can't deliver the right answer because some of those other prompts that I gave
It totally gave the right answer. Yeah, it searched the unicode directory and was like nope. Yeah
Yeah, it's weird and usually like I've seen it untype things before
I've seen it go and then recede and that's a that's a pretty famous one with uh deep seek
Or if you ask it certain things about certain things that have happened in china
It'll be like oh put out put out put it. Yep. Never mind
Nothing Um, nice. So like it it can do those types of things. I'm really surprised it just kept
Going
Interesting
Wild I should tell it to remember this
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Okay Uh, well, what else we got to oh that was it. Okay. That was that entire topic
Uh, this is interesting Uh source here. I mean, there's a cool thing for you actually
I don't think I can show it super easily right now, but uh, and it's coming in this update
But I don't know if it's actually enabled, but it'll be coming soon. There's a comment view for creators where you can see
Split out by sub channels So you can click on the different pills for each sub channel if you want or you can see the feed of all of them
You can see all your comments and it shows the video that it's on
And to the comment and you can reply to it there Oh, so it's a dashboard of all your most recent comments that have come in. That's pretty cool. Who asked for that?
Uh a few different creators Oh, yeah, that's that's very cool. I think the main
Requesty was mr. Dankpots, but it was a few different creators
Uh, this was uh, also posted on the subreddit cybercrime is afflicting big businesses
This is from the economist how to lessen the pain
Banning the payment of ransoms would be a start is sort of the the premise of this
This article and I have to confess I have not read the article
But I thought it was a really interesting conversation and I wanted to just kind of talk about it
Just the general idea of implementing a ban
on paying these ransoms um
Initial thoughts got feeling go
um Because you can't control what narrow-dwells will do
You can't you can't just you can't just ban
Doing ransomware because criminals are just going to be criminals
but government institutions
Publicly held companies where there's some degree of transparency expected you can
Ban the payment of these ransoms
What is that really gonna do well if organization is either shut the doors or
Do an illegal ransom payment
It's gonna matter
Man i'm trying to think what would we do
So everything's locked up. We can't get anything. Um, we've lost all our data
Maybe our business is just not quite as um dependent on our data
Yeah So it would suck but we could download the videos off youtube
Yeah And so no one can hold like you know the full plane the the the videography knowledge in
Andrew and glenn's heads Ransom like it's
It's not uh, we could rebuild the things needed. Yeah to be clear. This isn't an invitation or a challenge
It would be no, you know extremely inconvenient. Um, be really annoying. Yeah
But you have to put yourself in the position of
Like a really ip heavy company for instance or a bank. Yeah, we're like it's like customer records
So, you know, how do you know who has how much money?
I understand The idea
Behind it where if you can if you can remove the financial incentive for bad actors
To engage in these ransomware attacks
Then theoretically you can stamp out ransomware completely or reduce them
Okay, that's where I was going next with it because not every ransomware attack is necessarily even about the money
Some of them are also some folks just wants to watch the world burn
Also, some folks are financially incentivized by competitors
Let's not pretend that doesn't happen It is a hundred percent of thing
So then you would know in fact you could even you could even expect that to ramp up
Because you would know that you're not just dealing a financial blow
You are potentially dealing a debilitating
company destroying or the financial blow is doubled because what's the what's the penalty for
Well, it's always a fine. So it's nobody's going to go to jail for paying ransom ransom and a fine
So it's even more so
It's a cool idea, but much like the idea of just legalizing all illicit substances
You know just making drug trafficking go away in practice
The world is a lot more complicated and yeah a lot less black and white than that. Yeah
So I guess it kind of comes back to
Something we've talked about a fair bit on the WAN Show and that is that if anyone is promising you a silver bullet an easy solution to all of your problems
You should approach with a high degree of distrust
Well, anyway, I thought it would I thought we'd have a longer conversation about it. I thought it was an interesting idea
But yeah, it seems pretty obvious on the face of it that this just isn't really going to solve the problem
A secure boot bypass threatens 200 000 framework Linux laptops
The source is bleeping computer via redditor off 732
Units shipped with signed ufi shell components that could be exploited to bypass secure boot
protections that's Kind of all there was to this. I just felt like
Back to luke's conversation earlier about being like the coach's son
Not necessarily being that great because if anything it throws a little bit of extra scrutiny on you
Um, I don't know that not all cybersecurity topics necessarily make it to wanshow and this one probably wouldn't have but
Because i'm invested in framework. This is a good idea to bring up. Um, I felt like this is a good thing for us to point out
Cato s points out in Floatplane chat already patched by the way
That's cool. The other thing that I thought was cool was like i've never really given any thought to how many computers
framework has sold But 200 000 Linux. I was just going to say this still doesn't tell you because it's just the Linux one
So it's probably yeah considerably more than that like more much more than a doubling out. I would guess
I don't know how many computers they sell but if they can have 200 000 of anything deployed in the wild that seems
Like pretty good. Yeah, especially when you see their base prices. Yeah, so it's a lot of revenue at the very least good
I don't know what they're cost. Good job framework. Let's go
Good luck with that framework investment disclosure and in other news around mobile devices apple has revealed their m5 chip
And second generation vision pro. That's right. The vision pro is not abandoned, but let's do the m5 chip first
Apple boasts it offers improved image and video processing. They're saying it is 15 faster than the m4
It's 10 core GPU now has four times the m4 chips peak compute
And it can be found in the new 14 inch macbook pro ipad pro
And vision pro it seems to be the only real upgrade to each of those things just the new m5
Chip man apple silicon is like too good
The number of people I know that have m1 apple silicon and are just
Super happy with completely happy with it super happy zero desire for a 15 faster
Whatever 10 core GPU. They don't care at all. That's from that's from m4. I know so it's considerably faster from m1
But zero cares. It's just so efficient. I think at the end of the day what apple nailed was that
um people care deeply about the battery life of their mobile devices and
I was getting trolled hard in arizona
because I had a Lenovo little lappy toppy
and luka's and nick the people I was with both had macbooks
And I was hauling around my freaking charger
like a chump and they
bothered Because their laptops were totally fine the whole time and I would I would you know one of them would be like will mines at
70 battery life and I'd be like will mines at 100 because it's plugged in
But like I was definitely taking the L the entire weekend nice and it sucked nice
The latest generation Intel and AMD chips are much better
Uh lunar lake can never keep track of Intel's codenames. I think it's lunar lake though
They're their think mines meteor their latest generation is actually
Really efficient. Yeah, and like really good like I was pretty blown away at how well the uh MSI claw
ai8 plus or whatever the names dude handheld like oh stop just call it the
Call it the death bringer or something call it something memorable for crying out loud anyway
I I don't know man. It doesn't matter the point is just call it anything other than MSI claw the MSI death
ai8 plus Ew dude remember skull trail. Yeah, that was cool. It was so sick and we still remember it
It was so sick 15 years from now. Are we gonna remember the logo is so MSI ai
Now I'm even I'm not even sure if I can remember it now
But anyway that uh their handheld held up really well in comparisons with the uh the new xbox
Yeah, okay, so rog xbox ally x
Uh look at these logos dude. Look at that. Oh my goodness. So cool. Oh my goodness
Oh my oh my goodness isn't gonna work. Whatever. I totally did actually there so cool apparently that was very
Challenging politically I'm sure it was but it was so sick at a company like Intel
Oh, it was cool. Yeah Um, anyway, so good luck apple with the m5 uh also new vision pro
It's got the same 35 hundred dollar price tag as the first gen
It replaces the m2 chip from the first gen with a new m5
Uh, so you get better memory bandwidth 153 gigabytes per second up from 100
It now has a 120 hertz capable display the m2 topped out at 100 hertz
It gets 30 minutes of additional claimed battery life
It's 100 to 150 grams heavier
That's actually really surprising. Is that just because of the woven strap being
Like two weaves now. Does anyone actually know this? No idea. How could they possibly think making the vision pro heavier is the solution?
Someone anyone chat
No idea No trade-ins apparently wow
No trade-in which is insane. I mean is it insane?
They added weights to the back of the new strap to balance it out. That's interesting
Interesting. That's very interesting Okay
Man the bigger issue for me was just the way it sat right on the bridge of my nose. Oh, yeah, really painful. Yeah, maybe they're trying to reduce that
Yeah, maybe Apparently I might be doing the ShortCircuit for that
Oh, really a bit of a wild choice
Yeah, I'm not I kind of make sense use the vision pro once for like 20 minutes on windshow. Yeah, but you like vr
Yeah, the last one I used was an index Yeah, I mean that's a good vr headset. You you have your beyond now, right? I right
It has never turned on Right, it's literally sitting at my desk. Yeah, it has not gone to my hat. Why would it it would just be in danger
Yeah His house is torn apart if you're tuning in a little bit late. Yeah
Oh, the but I will do it justice. I will do well
The Bose sound touch app will not be touching anyone
Ever again this section of the show is written by adam the sex machine saundegard. Okay
Sorry, that's in the that's in the note. We have to it's in the notes. We have to read the notes adam
It was apparently feeling a little spicy when he was typing up the notes for this one
I heard you like your smart speakers. It would be a shame if we stopped supporting them
Don bows probably he writes
On february 18th 2026 the day after the sexiest LTT writer turns 31
Bose will discontinue cloud support for all sound touch products
This means that access to integrated services like spotify or tune in won't work
To add insult to injury all app functionality will be discontinued. That means no eq
No changing audio presets No multi room playback
So if you spent thousands of dollars on your bows smart speakers. Well, hey, don't worry about that
They can still play music via bluetooth aux and HDMI
Which is perhaps truly the smartest way to connect to speakers
Bose has not announced any plans to provide local only control via the app or any path for users to maintain the smartness of
their speakers Wow
I don't think there's really much to discuss here other than
Go fuck yourself bows. This is not cool. You need to fix this
You need to just open source it
because this is not Acceptable not gonna lie. I wasn't particularly interested in it, but I can fully confirm
I will not be buying bows anytime soon because of this
That's just trash hate it gross
Like if you gave a full refund no problem
But you're not you're not there's no way you were selling stuff as recently as just very recently and now you're just
Not gonna have it do the things that you said it would do
Unbelievable
Uh, I think it's time for an unbelievable transition to after dark
Oh, wait, no, there's one more quick thing As of this week, there's an official LTT skin for occt the overclocking and stability testing tool as part of their official v15 release
Really? There's yeah, right There's a few LTT easter eggs as well as our color scheme used for the theme
Hey Uh, okay, here we go. I'm just gonna bring this up
Be like a drop count detector New skins course iron LTT. Yay. How cool is that?
Yay Oh, that's just the link to our channel. Whoops. It looks pretty good. Yeah, right. How cool is that? I like it
They've also got some new features um
Stable release of a new storage test brand new storage benchmark major 3d adaptive test update also alongside of course our skin and
Many more features. It's live right now on ocbase.com
Just thought that was kind of cool Thought I'd highlight that. All right after dark time it is
Actually, I'm gonna make you guys start it without me. I'm gonna run to the washroom. Okay, got him
Uh, did we talk about the newsletters thing? I don't think we did. No, I was gonna skip it. Okay. We talked about a lot of
Never mind. We are not talking about newsletters. You don't get to hear about it. Ignore
Ignore that I never said it. There's nothing. Yeah
At all. Yeah. Hi
Hey, LD I think they're talking about you. Have you seen that linkedin ops users into allowing their data to be used for content creation?
AI training. I miss lean a con. Yeah, okay. So me too. No, I didn't see that because
LinkedIn why would I care? Um, but the the other
Crazy part about this is your did you hear about the one drive thing one drive?
um picture opt out
Oh, good god Here we go. This was a a post on our subreddit
um I don't know how real this is
Oh, you don't want one drive scanning your face. You can opt out but only three times a year
I don't I don't know how real this is. I have not
Actually checked this. Um, but what the heck man?
Uh, I wanted to see if this is posted anywhere else. I want to know if this is actually real or not
Can someone try this can someone check?
Um, so it's in the it's in the features section of some settings page for one drive
I don't have one drive. I don't do the one drivey thing
I rip it out of every computer I touch. Yeah, like immediately
So I don't know but if any of you have one drive or use one drive. Could you check this? I would like to see
Um, it it seems so insane that it doesn't seem real
This isn't rolled out production. It's a test feature
Okay so real
well Maybe the three times a year thing goes away when it's not a test feature anymore. I don't know
Who knows There's something even worse from facebook says handyman facebook's ai can now suggest edits to the photo is still on your phone
Oh
Dude everything's got to get more and more local man. It's it's crazy. I I'm like with that boast topic that we just had
I am not interested in buying smart connected things if they connect to a unique app anymore
Like ever i'm just not going to do it if I can't connect it to
A home assistant type thing or if it isn't just open and potentially, you know
Wirable by by anyone at any time
That's acceptable like if they didn't build the connection to home assistant if they didn't build the thing
But it's open so you could do it yourself. That's fine. I'll go with that
Actually love that. I'm not gonna say that's fine. That's great. It's cool. Sounds good
But if it has to go into some proprietary app not interested don't care don't want it won't buy it
and That feels the same for this type of stuff like get out of my data
I am I am uninterested. I don't want you snooping my phone
I know we give perms to these apps so that we can like upload photos to them and stuff gross
Rip it off my phone. I'll find a way. Um
Yucky don't like it. Don't like it the future is
Oddly enough the past the future is
Uh, not cloud the future is storing your own things or making your own cloud
You know, there's a lot of options for that make your own someone else's computer
Yeah, there's actually a bunch of very good options for that these days
I don't remember the names of them off top of my head, but with a simple google search. I'm sure you'll find a few
Um, you can make effectively your own like google like experience google drive like experience
Um for you for your family, uh friends, maybe potentially included
There's a lot of options someone said hexos plug. That's not even what i'm talking about to be completely honest
Um, I I think kind of but I mean I would want the local UI that's they've they've promised that they're doing it
Do you know if it's out? No, no, i'm a true nes scale guy. Yeah, so you have no idea. I don't know either
Um, but i'm not interested in that until it has completely local features
Um And even then just for just for wanting to learn the tinkering reasons. I'd very likely go
That's why I've noticed because it's what we run here and I wanted to delete data in a safe environment
And now I can't uh because it's full
So now I get to have the fun of drive replacement
Yeah Yeah, and I do my cloud backups people said embrace your ai overlords or you'll be uh torched in the future
It's like yeah, but you can you can run that locally, right? Yeah, we said there are ours
Yeah, there are our robots to control those are free. Those are open source. Those can be ours as well
So like thousands now screw it. I don't need your I don't need your junk. I mean on that same vein
Ldi I have used cloud code yet most of youtube seems to be sleeping on it still but it is truly next level
My spaces aren't It's what you make of it and I've made it everything which ai has been promised to me
Yeah, like I think that was one of the most interesting parts of of I mean, it's not out yet
But just hearing Linus talk about it Um with Linus's ai coding thing was that he did what most users would do and just use chat gpt
Oh, so I couldn't anymore. It was awful. There are better systems for it. Yes. Are you using those now?
Well, I haven't really had to do any more vibe coding. Okay. Yeah, so yeah
And I'm not realistically going to use the vibe coding probably that I did
I haven't seen it yet, but we'll see jordan told me that the real one is way better
So I didn't play around with yours enough and the time gap between them was pretty big, but
I mean I fully expected that to happen But I think the conclusion of the video is going to be really interesting
Yeah, because there's make something and there was a value to it because in the time that I've waited around for a real human
To do the work. I've been using it. It's been done for a while. Still I was using it before it was done
That's true. And the other thing is that it allowed me to find issues
With the system implemented with real humans
Using it and workflows and everything integrated into the business
That would have made it easier for me to put together a design document for a lot of people
Really struggle with like developer design dogs. Oh, dude. Yeah
So if you can start playing around and inform yourself a little bit and then ask
Because I don't know what I don't know and you can't predict everything about a workflow in a business environment
Yeah, and so having something where we go. Okay
We are running this now Here it is
It's garbage. I assume you're going to throw it all away
But here are the functionalities that it has that are good. I like this. I don't like this and here are the functionalities it needs
That's such a valid use case even the don't likes though like telling someone what
The thing they should make should not be is actually quite valuable. Great. Yeah. Yeah 100 percent. Yeah
Yeah Going into clarna debt for this shirt, but it's okay because I'm about to win big on the lottery
Slash as slash as such as Linus
Now that jellyfin is officially on hexo s. Have you gotten a chance to check it out? Not yet
Matter of time. I really want to do it
But not yet Hey
LL and D Linus you have lots of tools and machines for LTT
But what's one that you can't justify today, but hope to someday
Oh, um Oh, dude, I want one of those. Uh, I want one of those like ink based
3d printer magigs that can make like full color anything you could possibly want. Oh, yeah
Seb and Tyne and I saw one that Joel was looking at too. So cool
Amazing, aren't they so cool. They're getting cheap like you can make. Yeah. Well, like that's the thing
That's the thing about anything that isn't a GPU and technology is it does have a tendency to
Get cheaper over time, which is so cool. Would you want a uv printer? Are you talking more about the full color 3d printers?
Uh, I think I'm talking about the uv printer whatever whatever. Oh man, I forget
They're the ones that can print on to like metal and stuff. Okay, those are super cool, too
That's a uv printer, but I think you're talking about uh, a full color 3d printer. Yes, that's the one. Yeah, those are really kind of insane
honestly and they can even do um like clears
and uh They showed off Or I should say Joel 3d printing in order to show it off a you know, the original aliens one of the eggs
The little egg sack things that's so cool and it had like
Goop and slime that was clear on the outside of it like it was coated in stuff and it's like multi
um Just incredible incredible
So cool and luke would have you not been able to get Linus to buy?
It hasn't really often been an issue to be completely honest luke knows how to make the business case for a thing
I just don't think i'm that hard to convince when there's a shiny new toy to the
I mean Maybe to a fault. Well, do I have a collab to suggest with you? I'm just thinking like honestly
After a while, I sort of stopped asking
Oh, there was a there was a Floatplane back when we used to have the Floatplane meetings
There was a Floatplane meeting where I asked your like, I don't know approval permission whatever to like buy some servers
And you basically gave me a like why are you asking me this?
Sorry, sorry, sorry I don't usually mind but I was like a lot and right next to my eye
And from then on I couldn't remember what I said you completely blindsided me with that
I don't remember the exact wording, but it was something along those lines of just like like what do you even mean?
like what Have you done the work to like validate that this makes sense and i'm like, yeah, and you're like
Then do it. I'm just like, okay
So after a while, I just stopped asking Um, yeah, I don't know and the answer is usually we're spending about the same amount or maybe less and we're getting more
So, yeah Yeah, so so that
So then why have you waited so long? Yeah, so so after a while it was just like, okay, we'll just operate. Um, yeah, okay
And then for the lab usually it's been like, okay, but why isn't there 12 of them instead of four?
Um, so it's like, yeah, I don't know it's uh, dude, it's driven me crazy
How long it's taken for us to spend money and buy things for the lab like we're finally building the display testing slash
Like theater room so that every time a new big display comes in I don't have to install it at my house
I I know it's like fun and everything Linus and plew for Linus and adam dragging giant tv's across his basement
But we actually like when we shoot at my house, we tear everything apart. I don't actually prefer it
um And so yeah, we're gonna have like a like a nice like home theater room
Here at the office that can also be used as a light controlled space for display testing more generally
I'm very excited for it. The lab's is getting some structures, man. We're we've just hijacked
Exactly basically as they were left um, you know some furniture and stuff left and I think the
The tv that you had and stuff, but like the scrapper for sets
We're just using them. I know I saw that I saw that mine is being used as the display testing room right now
Mine is being used as the overflow display testing room mostly for like phones
Yeah, and then we'll also be used for some I don't remember the exact name of it
But something and it's not being used for that yet But dms wants to use it for like a a reflection chamber or something
So he wants to put like cinder blocks and other things around the walls and something something and then we'll still use it
For the phone display testing bubble blasts. We're we're using all of that basically
Uh, and then the home theater room's coming in and it's okay. You put up a bunch of walls and we were just like, yeah, yes
Well, yeah, we will move in it was never it drives me crazy because it was never a budgetary constraint
We just no couldn't get things done. Yeah. Well, it's yeah
It's uh It's a big task. We got this we got this it's gonna take time
Um, but we're we're we're cooking. Yeah, we're we're cooking slowly cooking. Yeah
Slow cooking. But yeah, if anyone's wondering what happened at the scrapper at worst set, um
Immediately deployed. Yeah, we're using them for stuff
We kind of needed some box rooms
I don't know if I told you this but I stole the uh, my audio setup
For my team for well, yeah, I mean sure. No, no, I was I helped you get out of the building. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, cool. Good chat
Hello sinus luke and ban sinus in my new house. I'm building a land center like yours
Nice, is it worth running dedicated networking to each system or just a single line to the area and then a switch
Oh, well, oh depends how far it is if it's not very far
Then running two Ethernet cables is basically the same amount of work as running one Ethernet cable
Um, there can be constraints like if you have a conduit for instance and only so many cables will fit in it
Then maybe don't do that Um, in terms of is it worth it?
Man, probably not like if you had a 2.5 gig or
I mean even better a 10 gig uplink to a switch in your land room
You're good for a very very very long time
um I Unless I was going for 100 completion. I wouldn't bother. I would just run a switch
Usually been my answer Linus a while back. You said you are going to daily drive a fold phone again
Is that no longer the case? That is the case. There's a fold seven sitting on my dresser at home
Uh, it's just such a hassle to change phones. I haven't even finished moving over to the iphone air
I've pretty much completed all my notes on the airpods pro 3s
Which I took possession of on the same day that I got the iphone air and I haven't fully migrated to the air yet
Hey dll my co-worker was telling me about back in the day
How he used to tape pins on his CPU to get more performance. Have you ever done this and how does it work?
The best I've ever done was like a graphite pencil mod where you could change the the resistance
um by penciling a certain amount of uh like an artist pencil between a couple of contact points and um
That yeah, that's that's the closest I've gotten
Hey duke king and jester
How do you ensure you're not going to grand on a project?
I have a tendency to invest too much on a single project and want to know how you deal with it
Thanks dash port add is my superpower. I uh, I get bored and move on
From things before they become too much of a resource sink for the most part. There are some notable exceptions. Um
LTT Labs Let's go let's go with that. I but that's like on principle that I'm sticking with it
I think it's a really important thing and I think we haven't
Delivered on the vision yet Um, so we so it's one of those things where if you do something halfway and then it fails
well That wasn't a failure in the idea that was a failure in the execution
And so until we've actually executed on the idea of it
I can't say for sure if it's a good idea or not gilson your problem. Um, so I've that one we're going to stick with but
Everything else I think is mostly gated by just sort of how much attention span we collectively have for it internally and we're busy people
so it can be um Very easy for things to get backburnered and then if they get backburnered
They must not have been that important and we move on and we do something else
Hey lld I was wondering if any of you frequented dial up bbs's back in the day blackboard message servers. I think is the
Blackboard message system. No, no, no, I would I am I am 39
So I was pretty young during the bulletin bulletin days bulletin. Yeah, that was I knew they existed
I'm sure you did too, but like by the time I was really
Knowledgeable and cruise around and doing stuff. They were previous thing. Yep. It was it was forums for me and uh and like chat
Like the palace was my first big like chat room chat rooms and forums
Hey, wanda deal catching you live from a research trip to canada
When is what gets me through my phd? What's your advice on staying positive after major setbacks in a project?
Oh man Sheer dogged force of will
Uh, I know it it can suck to hear that but sometimes it's literally the only thing that can possibly do anything
team team sort of grit and unity
Having other people who are pulling with you on the same rope helps a lot
Even if you're face first in the mud having just lost a tug of war
Those are the only real things right like we're social creatures we
We we want to we want to work together. We want to accomplish things and yeah, it can be really
tough Experiencing setbacks, especially when they were you know outside of your control for instance
Sometimes it can be even worse when they were within your control because then there's the whole blame situation, right?
But just remembering you're all in the same team working together. It's all you can really do and communicate to
stakeholders whether that's I think you mentioned university so
uh Communicate to your teacher potentially or your I don't know you said research
So maybe whoever's running your whatever program you're in
Um, communicate to other team members try to build out a reasonable plan to get back on track
Um, or alter the scope a little bit Um and make it more manageable
but talk Um
As much as you got to do the whole grit thing that we were referencing at the beginning talk as well
Communicate you don't want to show up
A day or two before submission and be like oh man this like this thing kind of blindsided us like a month ago
And we've been off track for a while. We're not quite going to make the the delivery time
What can we do about this? No have that conversation now?
Um, and then try to figure it out Unless you think you can alter scope or do something they can get you back on track without that
Um, but but be very sure about that before you get on that route
Dan I gotta get luke's take on this well You ask him then is doing a Windows ad worth it for a home lab
Four to ten users who you already help with pc issues and upgrading over time
Oh, and just for my own home lab use
I think it's a cool idea for a home lab because a lot of the ideas of home Labs is learning real environments
Um god speed Yeah ad is
So much fun But did he poo
No, I don't get it that would be plural, wouldn't it god speed
Your piano one I think it has got to be one of the goat jokes one of the goat pungs
No, no, that's actually like I've told that to a bunch of people
I'm not even kidding. That's like seriously one of my favorite puns ever
I it's so good
No, it's not that funny. It's really good. It's not good. It's actually really good. It's just so dumb
It's very good. Someone's asking what it is again. Oh, well you tell it
I'm not gonna do it as good. I I'm not gonna do it as good. You gotta send it
Do you want to do it man? So we were we were just hanging out at Natalie's AMD ultimate tech upgrade and I'm
Just like I'm goofing around on set because that's kind of what I do
You got to kind of bring that that class clown energy
Because it's not just about you and the audience and because like it's work right like I'm working
I'm getting through the work day and a big part of
you know helping keep everyone engaged in the task and and
enjoying themselves on camera is kind of is kind of
Bringing that energy to the set and so I I tend to even if I know that it's not going to make it into the video
I tend to goof around a lot Um and also because I'm just like I don't know. I'm just like a goofy person
I like to enjoy life and enjoy spending time with people and so I will often be looking for
any Yes, any opportunity to like make a dad joke
And so I'm like tediously working on this piano and I'm I'm I'm like
P And so I go, okay. Okay. Okay
How do you know that this is the number one instrument?
Or like what like well, they didn't call it puano
It's like it's not good. It's not good. It's stupid. It's so dumb
Oh, they did a call back to that and the new AMD upgrade, right?
Oh my god It's so good. It's so dumb. You're delivery the first time was so good. Well, I couldn't I couldn't deliver it with a straight face
Because it was so dumb. It was so good
It's a no one instrument because it's like a piano not the puano
It's like multi faceted too. No, it's not
It's very it's very deep. It requires a high iq to understand. No, it doesn't
No, it doesn't it does for sure. Oh man, dude, it's great
Um, I I think people were I think people didn't see it coming though because there is
There is probably a solid argument for the piano being the number one instrument number one instrument because it's it's so
technical it's the it's versatility is so great
Um, it's it's an incredible
musical instrument Um, and so people are kind of it gets it
The the best setups
Misdirect the listener. Yeah As I said, it's completely as possible
Um, right requires extreme iq so we've got everybody sit everybody in the room is thinking about all the technical reasons that appear
Piano might be considered the most superior of all musical instruments
And then you hit them with a peepee poo poo joke literally watching the episode. I was like
I think it I mean, I think it is The number one instrument and then and then you drop that because it's a piano not a puano and I just lost
Lost it dude I I I think it's
Contender for goat pun. No, I actually I think that I think the underwear today was a superior
Set up and delivery. You just didn't get it because it was a much higher IQ joke
I think those are better. I don't I mean, they're a different class. I don't think the boulder rock one was better
It's a different class because it kind of goes here's our boulder designs. They rock come on
Okay, that's more of a pure pun. The other one was more of like a just set up punch line
I don't I don't I don't actually I hate that pun has become the word to mean
Anything that is a joke word play. Yeah, we're well puns are word play
But now anything that's a joke is a pun No
The way people use no way dude. They use it like scam
Like anything that's a bad deal is a scam even if it was exactly as advertised like just a scam
It's like no no no scam means a specific thing scam means misled
How does like word like amelia bedelia? I that's weird. I haven't experienced this. I don't make the rules
I have not experienced check the laundry, you know, that's all there's a whole book on that the kids don't read these
It's like where they're you but I have not experienced it's like people using slash s
To mean things that are not sarcasm sarcasm is a very
Specific thing is verbal irony with an intent to to cut
to to inflict
Hurt feelings It doesn't just mean
Like I'm saying a different thing than this is a joke This is a joke or that I'm saying a different thing than what I actually think that is not what sarcasm is
um Good job understanding english everyone that sarcasm
Pause for awkward silence hit me dad. Hi D. Hello
I am a running the toronto waterfront marathon this weekend. Now. Are they running it or are they running it?
Uh, oh, uh, this is actually
Both funny and a legitimate question, but I think what is the biggest athletic event? It's a pun
I don't get it's not a please explain the joke to me. Okay. Go ahead. What is the biggest athletic event?
You have either participated or attended in
Participated there should be um if we're correcting people's english
No, it's in which you have either participated or attended. You can't say participated in
That's even more english. Sorry so good. Thank you
Canadian english you correct someone and apologize
I
Defined biggest most people there or what?
Most important most important to you most important to who attended okay, so attended
I don't know like a hockey game. I guess I don't attended seems lame skip attended. What's okay participated? I think
Uh, it's intended for all of us. Just gonna be like hockey game. I don't I don't is that incorrect? I think he's english
He's probably been to a footy game. I think this is more of like have you been in with their tea and crumpets perchance?
No, there's just violence mostly
Violence enchanting it's like, uh, yeah. No, I think this is more um actually
like If you competed in a in a hockey game or something like that. Yeah, that's how I interpreted it
But I yeah the attended just throw it off slightly, but yeah, absolutely. I know what they mean by it
They have 180 characters. What do you mean big in terms of number of attendees or big in terms of importance?
Because you like one provincial championships and stuff, right? Yeah, like I've never done that. I did nerd sports
Like I was never good at sports. The nerd sports was sick. It was sick
It has more views than your provincial championship depending on where you put the line
My my participation in nerd sports might be yeah more people watched you suck at hockey
That's so sad, but it's true
I don't know The probably the biggest one I like participated in somewhat decently would be maybe like a badminton tournament or something
Oh, I'm so upset the upcoming badmintology team tournament. I the timing just sucks for me
Like I don't have time to Put together a squad or join a squad right now because I'm like busy
Just do it on the plane No, I I'm not gonna be able to
Um, like it fills up in like a day and they announced it like earlier today
And people have been like putting together their teams all day and like I've been at work and also
Like I didn't already like kind of think. Oh, yeah, I guess that's coming up and like start putting things together
So I think I'm just gonna miss it. It sucks. That sucks. That was where I was when I got injured last year though
So maybe it just is fine
Yeah, I've been like I'm still not fully recovered from tennis elbow from overuse at that tournament last year
so Linus
Instead of incrementally Buying bigger and better TVs. When are you going to just get the wall from samsung or for some micro led goodness?
Man, I got to see them be seamless. I think I have not seen those be a better experience yet. Yeah, I um
And also there's so much more expensive like yeah, I could go from 115 to 136 I think
Uh, what what are the different sizes of the wall these days?
the wall Okay, 11th studio album by english rock band pink floyd not what I was talking about great album
Stupid name for our tv Okay, here we go
The ultimate visual experience from luxury completely modular, right? Yeah
But they have like kind of for the the home ones
They have like like kits like they have ones that they expect you to buy here shop now
I couldn't just buy like one panel for like sorry, no items are available. See the wall the bathroom or something
So annoying. Why is this hard?
All in 130 inch 2k. Yeah, no
I'm gonna spend that kind of money and I'm not gonna go 4k you've got to be kidding
And that's because these are like commercial displays so it doesn't always make it shut up
Uh, oh no, am I oh am I just I'm just looking at this one right now. What is happening right now direct view led?
Okay, we good. Well. Oh my god. Now. I'm here lcd video wall shop now
What a confusing website. What just happened? Okay, here we go
This is a video wall. How is this a video wall?
That's not a video wall. That's a 55 inch commercial display. Why would you call it that?
Ugh Oh, it has extremely narrow bezels. I guess
I guess I'll allow it. Wait, that's it
That's all of led video wall. Are you kidding me right now?
You cannot convince me that that was this is not a terrible website
How did I end up so lost?
You managed to navigate to the business site. Well, yeah, because that's where I'm supposed to be
It's part of their business thing. Also, how do what do you mean I managed?
Okay, so let's go back to luxury living for luxury living. Okay
Okay, I don't just want to brochure. I want to I want to browse the site
Seamless design bold look. Okay, we go all the way down all the way down all the way down
Shop the wall products by now. Here we go. And it just takes me to this one
Oh, no, this is it. Which one did I click last time for crying out loud?
Okay, direct view led i a series. Well, how do I see the whole thing? I don't just want the one
Oh, I could i a series here here. Okay, are we good? Okay. I think we're good
Wait, what that that's it Oh, oh, oh, I can click here. Okay, so they have a 110 inch. I wouldn't get that. That's like 1080p. Anyway, so that's stupid
So 146 inch 220 grand. So what I'm going to spend 220 thousand dollars
I'm going to have seams in my display and they say seamless. Oh, is this one seamless?
Hold on a second Is this one seamless? Anyway, there's other drawbacks too. I I truly don't know what the input leg is
Um, but yeah, cooling the room is a challenge. These things draw
Mundo power and then maybe more importantly, they're not actually
necessarily better than the 115 inch that I have now in terms of performance
And a big part of the reason for that is that they don't crank as bright
Surprising amount of reviews. Yeah, no bad performance low price only 3000 hertz. What what what what? Yes, I recommend this product like clearly people are just
controlling A bit big for a single bedroom apartment
Three stars like I would just ignore it fake. They should do verified purchase
There's no way that this isn't written by ai
Um Yep, this has got to be just someone's just written
With ai probably a story like I don't think any of this is real
I I would if I was samsung I would probably just turn off any not verified purchase reviews for a product like this
Because it's clearly not helping anyone Yep
Hi, oh, I'm proposing tomorrow. Oh, congratulations. What were any of your
I know that she's the one moments with your significant other
Ah, she learned video games to spend time with me
She did play some like very simple games like as a kid like dangerous dave was a favorite of evans
Um, but she like learned FPS like shooter games to play them with me
Um, that's that's a pretty solid sign. She's a keeper. Also. She stuck with me even though I was such a loser in university
Um, there's a lot of the one moments for for me. I don't know what hers were
Like I must be a lot better looking than I think I am or something because really like I was
Irredeemable early on. I don't I don't get what she was thinking But
Hey, when do I deal a little question for luke when buying things like sporting equipment or tools for yourself
How do you balance cost and quality? See this is what now I'm going to lose my cheapness
Flag trait I don't know what you want to call it truth. Um, I
I generally Okay, maybe I won't completely lose it. I tend to buy less stuff, but I try to buy better things
I go with the whole like try to buy something that's going to last basically
forever, um
Option, um, I like to think that the tools that I have bought are generally pretty good
I'll spend time and research them. Um, like the drills the the drills that I bought when I finally was like, okay
I need to have my own drills Um, or Milwaukee brushless
I was quite happy about that purchase. Um, and I yeah, I try to do that for things. So I yeah
Fewer of them better things is usually what I try to do
Buy the cheap one from harbour freight and then when it breaks get the most expensive one you can and I have done that
Yeah, or just borrow them from work Holy
Soda guards Dangerous dave
That John Romero Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Oh, I had no idea. Yeah
All right, let's play some dangerous dave. Shall we how do I uh, how do I start?
Okay, why are we dangerous daving? That's the game that Yvonne had liked. Oh, okay
Yep, this this was like Yvonne's gaming
chops when I met her And it it is really hard
Um, like the way the fall physics if you could call them that work
Um, it's got air control. That's kind of sick. It's it's pretty rough. There's only 10 levels. Um, but
Getting through them is quite difficult. Yes chat by the way. I did hear you. Um, I will I will call Yvonne. We can ask her
How do you get that? Ruby, I don't think you're meant to. Oh, it's just bait. Oh balls
It it's hard I promise it's legitimately very hard
Oh my god I've been trying to think about mine for for emma by the way, and I think there was um, when my when my
Grandpa was passing away. We we had to go down to arizona
um And I didn't even ask her to go. I didn't expect her to go
but she went And she was a absolute trooper the whole time. She did so much
work Like we were clearing out his house and like my mom and I had to go through a bunch of his documents and figure what
We needed to shred and do whatever else and she disappeared for a few hours
And I assumed like I don't know what she's doing whatever sounds good
And then when she came back she was like, well, I cleaned out the entire garage
And it was just like What nice like I she was going hard the whole time. Uh, and that was actually very cool
All right
Hey, hey you're live on the WAN Show so
um chat was asking like when was my like
You know, you know, she's the one moment with you and I was kind of talking about you like
Learning left for dead just to like play games with me and stuff like that
Uh, and oh my god. I'm trying to play dangerous. Dave right now. I'm about to get my bad. Dang it
It it really is dangerous Yeah, don't don't worry about it. The point is that uh, I was talking about how what I wasn't really sure
What my redeeming qual- oh for crying out loud that bloody spider
Um, I wasn't sure what my redeeming qualities were
Um, and they wanted to know what your like how you knew moments were
Um Yeah, right tough a really long time back
Oh
That's brutal Sorry, he's talking about dangerous
Yeah, no, no, no, I figured
Um, honestly, you know like
I was a dumb girl back then and I was just in love
All right, thanks. That's kind of what I expected to hear doesn't make it easier, but uh chemicals not unexpected
No, I mean, I knew you were smart and you challenged me and I
I liked that we were able to communicate And talk about things that we don't like that's not easy to talk about
um I liked that you were
Like I remember so far. I know English. Sorry so far. I know English
I'm smart to communicate. Yeah
Um, you were very charming, which I feel like is sometimes the opposite of me and I needed that like not just charming
But like really laid back um
In some ways not not every way
Yeah, that's not usually balanced me if that makes sense you were like, you know
We talk about yin and yang their opposites, but they like mesh well together. Okay, so we got Yvonne being responsible and stable
And we've got me being probably the first time I've ever heard you describe as laid back. Yeah
Well, I mean I was pretty high strung. It's all relative
It's all relative. Yeah, okay. Yeah Like I'm I'm I'm much more easy going now, but okay. I feel like in some ways. I was high strung because of you though
so
All right, I think that's probably enough for this for now
Okay, all right. See you soon love. Oh, that's really funny. Bye
That's very funny I mean, it's about yeah, I'm not gonna lie about what I expected but um, there you have it you heard it from the horse's mouth
Up next as requested making good use of the gift card before the holiday season
Thank you. Thank you. Actually a lot of people have been using the gift cards
Appreciate that They thought they would save them but they can't help themselves as requested making good use of the gift card before the holiday season
And you've all have halloween outfits planned
No, um, I haven't had a halloween outfit
since Uh, we had the house the house was our office and I scared people on the porch
Well, people are so upset. They're like don't call your wife a horse. What do you think a ho is short for?
Oh my god. No, it's
And let me misdirect him you missed it get a misdirection. When did you know it's an expression from the horse's mouth?
Like it just means from the source. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't have yeah. No, I know I know
That's not a ding that wasn't a pun. No, it was a joke
Dings are not for puns they're for dad jokes. Exactly
Oh Yeah, oh dude, I'm in such rough shape. I did a um
the My son's taekwondo school like no disrespect to taekwondo, but it's not like a serious fighting martial art for the most part
um But I still wanted the kids to like learn martial arts. It's good for you know, discipline and good to learn to stick with something until you
You know get your black belt. It's good socially. It's good. It's good for lots of things
It's good for getting you out of your shell a little bit My kids can tend to be a little bit shy sometimes and I think you know forcing them to you know, shout and and practice sparring
Just there's a lot of things that I think it can be really helpful for developmentally
I'm not saying it's for everyone, but I'm saying it's something that I believed in so all my kids have had to do taekwondo
Anyway, the point is that the instructor Before this particular organization converted to taekwondo
Used to train under something under the same, you know master or whatever, but it used to be called
Something combat something and it was like very street brawler
how to break bones and And get away kind of
And so I had actually asked him because my son's been losing a little bit of interest with the the taekwondo side of things
And so I asked the instructor. I was like, hey, do you want to do like some privates with us and do some more like
some more like grappling some more submissions some more like like more
Stuff you don't teach the kids like, you know neck takedowns and and stuff like that and he's like
I'd love to
You know, he's a super cool guy. Anyway, the point is that I had a I had a session with him
on Wednesday, no, no
Oh, what was it? Wednesday, yeah, I had no
What what day are things? Yeah, I had a session with him on Wednesday night
Um, right after work So I had a long day at work and then my son and I went and did like like a bunch of like neck takedowns
chokeholds neck submissions chokehold counters and like basically a bunch of stuff and so Thursday
I had a long drive to an AMD ultimate tech upgrade long day
AMD ultimate tech upgrade and then oh, sorry. No first Wednesday after after the training
I went and I had badminton training for two hours. So just like multi feeds if you guys are wondering what that looks like
um, basically You can check out the badminton insight channel
Oh We did a collab with them where they had me trained like a pro for a day
Um, it's pretty brutal. But basically this is not was not me
I'm in I'm in all black here and I mostly looked like that but
You you go pretty hard So you you basically are just running getting stuff sometimes missing them
The point is it's pretty tough and then yesterday I had ladder. So I had competitive ladder
I am like I'm dying. My body is dead
This is the ghost of me. It's my halloween costume. It's pretty good. Yeah
Um, like I could barely shoulder check in my car on thursday and then I had to go play ladder that night
It was not I do I lost five out of my six games. I dropped like a hundred elo points
I'm so upset like actually very upset. I should have just not even played
Yeah, probably not Linus, what difficulty do you recommend for ano 1800? I am still struggling with outpacing expert ai of the show
Whatever you enjoy ano is fun if you're not having fun
just Turn it down. It's fine. The high difficulty ai also
Extremely cheats. Yeah, that's something that's always been a problem for ano games like even going back to the very first one
Which had exhaustible iron mines and every map would only have like a couple iron mines
So your your ability to acquire iron was like extremely limited
Um, it's kind of like like warcraft 2 and gold mines like there's just there's no friggin gold on the map
Nah, that wasn't that big of a problem in warcraft 2 much worse much worse than gold in warcraft 2
But you've got this finite resource compared to
something like supreme commander where the resources are are infinite
And it's just a question of like how you manage your economy So you've got this like finite iron resource
The biggest problem that I noticed was they wouldn't have access to a certain resource
That would allow them to build the thing yet would just have it and there was explanations
Like maybe they got it through trading but then even if you like
laser watched their base like No
Yeah, so so they would just so all the iron on the map would be exhausted
But they would like still be able to build stuff with iron and it's just like come on
I don't like that Yeah, so I don't I don't love those forms of difficulty. Yeah, but I mean realistically ano can be enjoyed in any way
You can play against the eyes Against people you can just spawn a new world and just build. It's it's a great game
No, oh, yep, sorry a ton of people that play on the minimum difficulty. I think they call it beauty building
No, uh, what's it called?
Shoot it has a name tiny glade
What I don't know. That's just that's a game where you build pretty. Oh got it just okay. Oh, um
Man, why can I not remember what it's called?
Are you sure it's not called beauty building? Yeah, I don't think so. I think it's called something else
I maybe you're right beauty build
Beauty building I mean I did search there are people that say beauty building, but I searched beauty building
So I don't know if that's like I was going to say the same thing. Yeah
All right, anyways, there's a there's a Pretty large subset of people that play on the lowest difficulty and then just try to make really cool looking cities
Instead of the most efficient cities and then some people play on higher difficulties and try to make the most efficient cities
I even know some people that play on minimum difficulty and try to make
Obsessively efficient cities and they just don't worry about the difficulty of the game while doing that
Apparently it's called beauty building. Sure. I don't know
Every build is a beauty build because this game is beautiful
Build beauty building uh packs for mana demos out right now launch during steam next fest
I could have sworn it was called something else. Okay. Well, I'll show you there might be another name for it
I don't know. I mean this seems to be a thing This seems to be a thing
I don't know. I don't know Okay
How do you deal with a product you like being bought out by a company that you're morally or ethically opposed to
For example, EA or more specifically battlefield six
It's tough and it's becoming tougher in this
increasingly consolidated world where
The companies that make the products that you enjoy
are increasingly owned by Giant objectively evil multinational corpse or owned by
nations with very questionable track records around
human rights and um
extra judicial killings and all kinds of
Truly horrible things. There's also problems. This is unrelated to what they're talking about with bf6
But it is related to the whole company and ethics thing. There's also like
There seems to be a bias towards
avoiding the loud ones Instead of necessarily avoiding the worst ones. Yeah
Uh, which is also interesting. I don't know. It's it's tough. You got to pick your own lines
Um, and trying to assume that everyone else is going to pick the exact same lines is just going to lead you to be frustrated
needlessly so don't do that, but um
Yeah, pick a line If that's your line, then that's your line
Hey fellas after seeing the server video, I was curious about the process of upgrading servers
I imagine upgrading is very expensive and requires new cooling solutions. How often do they do that?
Cooling solutions. No I wouldn't
For the most part When cooling solution or the whole thing upgrading servers
Like we've definitely done it over the years, but that's a very
Small business thing to do Large businesses enterprise data center
Like you run it as long as the total cost of ownership makes sense
and then You decommission it. I
Wow, that's actually very interesting because I didn't even interpret it that way
I interpreted upgrading servers as replacing servers. Yeah, exactly. I didn't even think about
Yeah Now when you are replacing servers and you're upgrading the cooling in the data center if that's what you're asking about
That is a huge problem. We actually discussed that
Very briefly in the sfu supercomputer. Oh, yeah, I kind of figured that one would have gotten your attention
Yep So because they have so little power going into that building
I mean to be clear they thought it was a lot back in the day It used to be apparently like the the control center for
All the bc hydro like power for the lower half of our province like
It was built with lots of power and networking or whatever
But then these new ai servers came out and all of a sudden
They had to reroute. I think I think it's like
Don't quote me on this But I think it's like a third of the power going into the data center for just the GPU servers that are just like this like
One row and they're not even full to full density like to actually build a fully built out fully dense
ai data center would require this just utterly obscene
power density like it's like it's insane
And it was it was a big problem They actually had to take down a bunch of nodes in order to
Completely reroute all of the networking and power from one side of the data center to the other in order to even do this deployment
And consolidate enough of it that it could that it could be done
huge Huge problem and like the the cooling that they added so they added
Three more of those evaporative cooling towers that they have outside
And they were what I think they said 1.2 million a pop or something like that to handle the additional heat load
Spicy And to be clear like it it happens D. Hollinger in chat said
That really depends these days with the constant security issues we tend to have to do it quite often
But yes from a hardware perspective usually just replace a physical server
But not always and like with with even the like
Location services we've used with like ovh or whatever else
We've had individual servers that we are using get upgraded
Upgraded usually the problem is drives are dying and then they just use that opportunity to upgrade things or whatever else, but
Yeah, in my experience, it's usually swapping out the whole the whole server
Last one I got for you here Linus How have the first few days of your 40th year on this point been going not yet not yet
Still in my 30s barely Hang it on any updates on the full install of your new light switches. No, I need to follow that up. We've
We've got a bunch of really good Sort of home stuff going I still have the list to work on
And there's some new members of the writing team that you guys will be meeting after they complete their probation assuming that they do knock on wood
And I'm very excited for some new home automation stuff at my house
Also some really cool stuff for the tech house one of the new guys actually flagged these
Heat pump water heaters Which I didn't know was a thing
But I guess makes sense if you can heat water with gas you could probably also heat water with a heat pump
But it just has like a Like an hVAC system on the top of it and then the water tank under it. Yeah pretty cool
So we're going to be looking for all kinds of cool things. He also flagged a
A smart panel to me So instead of putting smart breakers into a dumb panel
You just have a smart panel and it can do all kinds of cool stuff like you could tell it
Hey, if we're if we're at the limit
Then kill these ones because I don't need them that bad. So for something like whale land that could be amazing
That would be really good. Yeah, right Whale lands power situation is getting interesting. Oh crap pretty jank says you are 39 meaning you are living in your 40th year Linus
right uh
Well, that's depressing and I still haven't learned math, but you're not there yet
No, I am. Yeah, but you're not at the 40th yet. Well, I'm not finished the 40th
I'm in my 40th, which is what they but how most people consider it. Well, most people is a very western centric point of view
Sure. No, they they do they you know, I know but you are western
Yee-ha. So it would follow how you do it. Would it not? Thanks for watching the WAN Show
See you again next week. Same bad times. Same bad channel. Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker
Okay, bye
Merry Christmas
All right
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