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We've had this before, haven't we?

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Hey, what's up y'all?

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Yes, this is them. Yeah, they're cool

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Hello nerds

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You guys forgot what I was doing in the chat I was posting a water bottle emote every time I took a drink

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Uh-huh

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And I'll friggin do it again boink there it is

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You guys should do that individually for yourselves for the rest of the show, but it's don't explain it to the people that show up late

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Just have their randomly be water bottles the whole time

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You remind me of Greek yogurt What is that?

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Means you're a stand-up guy and kind of fat you see sleep

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Protein is fat. You're stiff. You're thick. You're a stiffy kind of guy

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I've lost that milk fat. I think it's seven pounds already this year nice a

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Little ahead of schedule nice Is alright. I've lost more

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Got him. That's not good. I have my teeth out so I couldn't eat much

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Okay at risk of TMI Yvonne was like patting my butt and she's like where to go

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Where's my cake?

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She didn't say it like that because she's Yvonne, but you know yes, yeah, yeah

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Where's my cake at? All right

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Let's let's do this thing. Shall we?

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What are we even talking about today? We got deep-seek. We got another 20 minute

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You know addressing the controversy start. I'm kidding. I'm kidding

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kidding

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I need that like Green Day song wake me up when September ends, but it's like wake me up when we're in January

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Well, January is gonna be over real quick me up when people shut up. You might not even be asleep yet by the time January

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is over There is no chance actually I guarantee you I will not be there is no way I

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Will be awake until February. I promise you AJ Geist says wake me up when August 2023

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It ends when other people decide it ends

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Man we moved on like multiple times

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Alright, let's do this thing

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Really enjoy that there's just random water bottles

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Where's the bread though? So when you eat something you post bread when you take a bite of something you post bread

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We take a drink of something you post water bottle and just don't explain it to anyone in the live show

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Don't spam it don't spam it no no no you have to actually have taken a drink of something ideally water

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And then you post water bottle or take a bite of something and then you post

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It's not even funny unless they do it in the YouTube chat or something because they all know now

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No, but like Two hours from now

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There will be a lot of like people come and go with live streams. That's super that's a thing

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Well, what you just said it's not even if they wouldn't it's captive audience once they start watching

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They're literally not once they start watching me I am literally the most important thing in the world and they could never possibly

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Watch anything they would they would have to just they would have to be unintelligent

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They'd have to be they have to be they'd have to be that's so that's it. You can't tune out now. Yeah

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Or else you're just Willing spy L is for narcissists. Can we get like?

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Can we get like like what would be our narcissist emote?

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We'll have to like keep doing narcissistic dog whistles throughout the show

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Selling a mug that says L L's for narcissists on it. That's a reference genuinely very few people are gonna get

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Well, I mean some guy said it but like realistically who the f**k is Dan Besser, so

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There's another WAN audience only reference yeah, or rather the other one's not WAN only but it's only in that one video that one time

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Yes, this is pre-WAN. This is definitely pre-WAN. Can we please own update what's going on message?

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Great warehouse support. Oh for what? What do they want to know?

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So I don't get it. I ordered the commuter backpack on December 26th still haven't shipped what's going on with that

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Can we please own update with what's going on? Oh, they're shipping out the waves of orders as soon as they get them

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Is there some indication can someone figure out what wave they're in?

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I think it should say on your order confirmation I think wave one is almost done or done and it should be wave two stuff now

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I think

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They sent out an email about shipping

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Your wave is on your original confirmation email. Okay, there you go

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Okay. Well, there you go Just because your wave one order maybe has been shifted doesn't necessarily mean it has arrived it

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But yeah, we're we are getting them out as soon as possible

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And from what I can understand

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It shouldn't be impacted by tariffs

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yet Based on what we've heard so far

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so We're not ready to make a full proper

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Sort of address as far as all that goes yet because right now the information is incomplete at best

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but if you're if you're just kind of like stressed that like oh my goodness tariffs are going into effect this weekend and like

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I'm gonna get dinged 25% on my backpack

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That does not appear to be the case. So would it be on new purchases?

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Can they even track that tariffs happen on landing? Don't they?

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They would happen on landing in the country that is applying the tariffs. So theoretically if something country of origin China came

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Through Canada into the US it could be impacted But I'm not the expert on this and we have actual people who actually are smart and know this stuff cool working on it at CW

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And they're gonna they're gonna get that

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Tough job for y'all. Thank you for working on it

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DiGear not the order page the order confirmation email

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That should be where you get the the wave

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should be the product page talks about the wave that

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What you would be in if you bought it right now Mm-hmm

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Mod Mat will come when it is ready

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Wafflehead asks given Yvonne is from Singapore I'm gonna not go with the rest of your question because Yvonne is not from Singapore. Yeah

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I think there's a Singaporean actress who is also named Yvonne Ho. Oh

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And so there's like there's like a whole thing where

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I Am supposedly married to this actress

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Which is two wives pretty racist because I'm surprised you have so much time. They don't look like each other

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Yeah, Yvonne Ho is known for this and apparently

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Yeah, like it's there's there's yeah, there's like it's a whole thing that I'm apparently

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Married to this actress

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There's like a handful of like AI generated articles that started it and then I

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Can't find any of it right now, but it's definitely a thing. So you could see your wedding photo

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And then there's photos of not her. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, it's a whole it's a whole thing man

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What those are not Yvonne and no well and no Yvonne is not a Chinese Communist Party member

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What it says that in there too. No, no someone in chat. I don't think she's ever even been to mainland China. Oh, I

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Have maybe I am yeah, you could be what you look like you would be yeah, yeah

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Got dead eyes Dead eyes Luke. That's why we call him that

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Dead eyes like just bags. No, that's not based on anything. I mean might have to make everything about you

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Some kind of fucking narcissists. Yeah, yeah, I'm better at you than it

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I'm the best narcissist. What are you gonna do, but probably nothing cuz you're not good at stuff cuz I'm the best

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You know who you should trust me trust me, bro, not him, bro

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Trust me, bro. Have we actually gotten past like this being upsetting into this is just kind of comical now

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Maybe is that is that where we've gotten to I

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Mean at a certain point Just like to deal with the process

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It's easier to still I don't know. It's so tiring. Yeah

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I mean the challenge is that the human capacity for imagination is much greater than the human capacity to painstakingly

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Go through receipts and present information in an organized and easily digestible fashion. Yeah, that's the cold hard truth

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Yeah Why don't we get this show started?

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The Luke needs to talk over Linus all stream

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The L is for a narcissist thing still works. Yeah, really does

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My name even has to I mean, yeah, and like you don't even have to have L is for a narcissist

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You don't even have to have your name start with L. You could just be someone who's taken some L's recently

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I'm trying to keep talking over you then you got all the L's it's impossible. It's impossible

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I

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Need my first and middle sorry, what's that Luke?

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My first and middle name are both Bible names. Does that make me even more narcissistic?

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My first and middle name are both Bible names, too. So boom got him

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Well, see how I took whatever you said and I Made it about myself. You see that

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It was pretty good. I think I'm winning. That's a point for me right then David. No

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incorrect Then why are you talking? Why are you talking about yourself and what you're doing? That's a point for Dan?

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I'm sorry sir point for Dan. Oh You can't apologize

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I'm talking to myself. Now you lost

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For only being recognized for me now. Yeah, I think that's a bonus point. Why are they talking to me?

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Oh, no There we go

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How are you guys doing I muted their mics, they don't know that

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They can't thank no no one from chat can hear you

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They're still talking point I would be a winner. Sorry you guys were muted. What were you saying? Wow you

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Never mess with the producer That's something I've learned running a company. Okay. You never mess with your video editors

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You never mess with your IT infrastructure people. Okay, you never mess with I

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Don't know who else do you never mess with generally? It's like everyone. Yeah

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Pretty much in a company like this pretty much anyone

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No, it's just me

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I have some control I have some control I can do that

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Though hold on he controls the controller. I can also mute down. I just muted Dan boom uno reverse got him

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Now he's gone. He's faking. What's he faking? Yeah, I don't believe him. I think he was just moving his mouth

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I don't think he was talking you guys are so gullible. It's actually pathetic

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All right All right, let's do this thing this whole time Dan talks about how it's so hard to respond all the merge messages

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And he's just like generating the responses all the time

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No Screenscraper that just reads the question and automatically feeds it into an LLM now

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I think he's more sophisticated than needing a screen scraper. He wouldn't need that. Mm-hmm. Yeah

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He would get the he would get the plain text API, baby

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But I don't know if they're like is one Yeah, they probably not know

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That's why I said Dan would believe in his greatness so much that he would will one into existence

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So I'm sure he could just ask and then one would be I wouldn't ask I would tell oh

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That's more points for that. I think so many points. I think Dan won. He might be in the least of course. I was gonna win

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I guess it's another point ridiculous Damn

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Get it together. All right. I'm launching the thing. I'm resuming the selected now

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As an AI merge message model. I do not have the ability to read or respond to anything but merge messages

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What's up everyone welcome to the land show I told you I was starting the thing

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We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week Deep seek has been causing deep panic

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NVIDIA's stock is down. I mean it's my top last time I looked at it. It was like 11 percent which sounds like a lot

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until you consider that NVIDIA's worth like

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Two to three trillion dollars. Then you know it's a lot. Then you know

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Take the punchline. Anyway, the point is got them We're also going to be talking about our hardware reviewers just kind of shouting into the void

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Like the percentage of gamers that are actually watching reviews. Is it significant? What else we got this week?

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You can poison AI in even more fun and creative ways now and

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Sony removed psn requirements for four pc games. I think we talked about them adding psn requirements for

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uh Helldivers and maybe horizon zeroed on maybe but they did it for spiderman 2 last was to

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You know, we do the topic later, right? We could have talked about right now. It's pretty short

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Yeah, but we're fine, but we're not going to but we have to we have to

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drag them on

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Make them keep watching

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Really

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You The show today is brought to you by vessie odu and odd

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pieces Also by our rap partner dbrand and our chair partner secret lab. Why don't we jump straight into our

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What's the title today? What is our headline topic? Oh, does what we do even matter?

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This was actually inspired by a really cool visual that paul's hardware created

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That was awesome showing how the 5080

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Kind of blows compared to previous generational uplifts from 80 class cards

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Now our review wasn't exactly glowing either. We pretty much pointed out that it's

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A bit better, but if this doesn't beat a 4090 the uh upcoming 5070 contrary to what NVIDIA has been claiming

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Absolutely will not beat a 4090, but the question that

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Looking at paul's graphs and looking at the at the at the viewer retention for our 5080 review and not just ours

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But 5080 reviews around the internet the question that it raised in my mind was

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Does what we're doing even make a difference and i'm not trying to be defeatist here or anything

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But the 5090 literally

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Sold out in seconds. Well, there was like none of them literally

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Instantaneously, this is a 2000 Four of anything it's going to sell pretty quick. This is a $2,000

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This is a $2,000 GPU and then the 5080 apparently bots scalped

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The entire stock for multiple e-u countries before the official launch thanks to a leaked distributor link

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After signing a zotac 5090 at microcenter jay's two cents found the thing listed on marketplace for

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5800 dollars later that day

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Which i find disgusting they had an opportunity to price it at five thousand eighty dollars

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And they went for five thousand eight hundred dollars

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That's outrageous that is outrageous

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It is is joke either way is outrageous. Please for the love of god slash s um nope

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You're serious and here is a hilarious post that is now gone from r slash pc mr

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Oh, it was up before the show justifying justifying scalping. Um

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Oh, but i'm not bad because i only scalped one card. So so here's the thing

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scalpers are clearly getting utterly

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Detached from reality amounts of money for these things because they wouldn't price these things so high if nobody was buying them

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NVIDIA clearly has zero incentive whatsoever to lower pricing

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We talked about this in our recent video is now a good time to buy a pc

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Right, we talked about how what happened the last time around that we had a huge spike in pricing was

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The dominant player in the market and that's invidia noticed that

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Oh People will totally pay that much for this stuff

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But they'll keep the prices high Whether we're paying tariffs or whether there is you know

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Covid inflation or whatever the case may be if people will pay it

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That's what the market will bear and that's going to make our shareholders real happy no competition

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um And so i'm looking at it going we we spend how many how many person hours

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How many do you think went into something like our 50 90 and 50 80 reviews?

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And i i'm combining them because a lot of the work was somewhat overlapping

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Because we used it was the same driver release from invidia for both cards

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A lot of the testing for 50 80 review was done on the 50 90 review and stuff like that

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It completely dominated the output from the Labs from the the testers and nick and some other people being involved for

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Uh Probably a solid like two three weeks

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Yeah, and then we had one writer dedicated to it for a couple of weeks probably more like two and a half

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And then there's the you know, we went to cES largely for information that informed that oh, yeah, that's true

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So I think that counts. I mean it would it be fair for me to say that there's hundreds of hours. Oh easily in those reviews easily

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so We say hey this thing is not really that worth it

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It sells out immediately people pay scalper prices for them

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And here's where this thought here's where this thought train kind of led to I was looking at the numbers the number of views on our

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reviews for these cards and not just ours um, but also from from other reviewers around the web and

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I would say That looking at the 50 80 and the 50 90 the tam so the total addressable market that the total number of people

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That actually watch a hardware review video for a GPU

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Is probably somewhere between the lamborghini of the GPU's either way because tends to get more views

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No, we sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure because we we get way fewer views on the cards that people buy more actually

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Yes, yeah So even for the best case scenario the tam is probably somewhere between

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four and six million

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People because there's a lot of cross talk people watch more than one video

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There'll be a ton of overlap because we aren't the only ones who for years have said hey

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Don't just take one reviews word for it go watch all them

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Yeah, you go go watch more so that you can get multiple perspectives because everyone's going to have sort of slightly different ideas about

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What they think is important and I will say As kind of expected this generation was like

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One of the best examples of that. Yeah, there was a lot of different

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Outlets that took different angles on this. I mean you pointed out paul's earlier if I remember correctly

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Hardware knucks did a like let's see it get CPU throttled by using older and older. Yeah, use different things like that's kind of

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Different approaches, which I thought was really cool awesome

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So yeah, this this was this generation proved our point better than like literally ever before

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So if you have only looked at one go look at more So here's my problem with that if the tam for people in these quite overlapping circles, right who watch hardware reviews is

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Somewhere in that let's let's say for the sake of argument that i'm totally off and it's like 10 million

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Let's let's say it's way more sure The total number okay almost certainly is because of other languages and stuff sure sure

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That's fine The total number of pc gamers is estimated to be somewhere between one and two

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billion yeah, so like doesn't even matter if it's six or ten and and and but

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I want to make sure that we're we're giving this kind of a balanced discussion, right?

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Because I think there's a strong argument to be made for micro influence like micro influencers people who influence their family and friends

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They might they might stay up on everything and watch all the reviews and everything like that

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And their friends might not but they might get the benefit of of those recommendations

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But even then so like the market is probably like three to four x the amount of people that watch the video

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Even then what's clear to me from these numbers is that the vast majority of people who buy a GPU who buy a gaming pc

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do not read a review and

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Not only that But even out of the people who do I couldn't help noticing that erin mr.

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Who's the boss actually has the highest performing 5090 video by a decent by by a fairly significant margin

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And if you want to if you want to sort of I think it's his fit if you want to reflect

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On you know what the difference is right? I think it's pretty clear

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He's got a lot of energy his style is so good. It's so engaging

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And I think and I think this one is really key. It's light on graphs

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Oh, yeah, there's like barely any have you looked luke have you looked at the retention on our 5090 video? No

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Okay, check this out And you know what in fairness this is a thick video

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We called it rtx 5090 review our big our rtx 5090 our biggest review ever

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So check this out out of the people those those millions of people that do watch a review

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This is how many of them actually watched the whole thing

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So we had below average retention a way below way below

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So the people who actually reached the conclusion who reached the sponsor segue is one third of them

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Most people didn't get past 1440p and 4k raster

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We're below 50% by the time we get to blackwell architecture and neural rendering

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Is this a situation where like we should we should offload more stuff to the the site?

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I I I'm I'm not even asking what's actionable yet. Yeah, I'm mostly just asking take it's something to consider

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I'm just asking Are we just are we just shouting into the void? Here's an argument. Yeah, no

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I want I want to have a conversation. I want to have a conversation about this because this is this has definitely been

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Enlightening distressing are you part of the problem?

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Maybe I'm gonna give it the spiciest possible intro. Maybe my reason my reason come at me. You've already stated you're getting a 5090

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How many people out there? It doesn't even matter how connected to the tech industry. They are it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant

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They they have a certain current graphics card. They were gonna buy this completely regardless

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They might be interested in the performance. They might be going and buying a 5090 but being like I like wish it was better

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But they're gonna do it anyways But like let me put it this way

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We are getting deep into the answer to that question in our 8k gaming video

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So MSI wanted some sponsored 5090 stuff so they could show off their 5090 and we were like

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Let's game at 8k again So we're so we're milking that stupid 8k tv in the lounge beautiful and we're gaming at 8k

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again And what adds really a really interesting through line to that video is that both of the hosts

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Me and nick ploof Had declared during the rumor phase that we were going to buy a 5090

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So the card our before card that we compare the 5092 is literally

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nick ploof's 4090 That he had to pull out of his computer at home because we wanted to have an MSI 4090

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And we didn't have one in our inventory and i'm not going to go buy a 4090 right now

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So he graciously Volunteered to bring his 4090 to work so that we could use it for the video

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And so that he could also experience side by side

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What kind of an upgrade am I getting? It's a really cool video and what I will say is that

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The answer is

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Not a foregone conclusion. I said before that I would buy a 5090

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So did nick ploof when we saw the review numbers

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Both of us felt pretty differently about it. Yeah

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And We did not gain perfect clarity from gaming on them side by side

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I will say all of those things but very interesting that video that video is coming

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I also think I don't want to jump us off this topic yet For sure like a little bit of a hint to the next topic. I also think with the deep seek r1 stuff going on right now

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Local llm is exploding like never before

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Um, like yes, people have been running lm and stuff for a long time and we'll get into this in a second

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Are you doing another victory lap right now? Oh So much. I know no idea. Dude. Like he is actually erect under the table right now

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Just from how right solid from how right he has been like like can you tell that the table is actually tilted this way?

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It's slightly slanted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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Because he wasn't he called it so hard that the cloud was coming that the cloud was coming back on prem

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Now in fairness. I did not make as comprehensive a prediction as you

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But I resisted the move to the cloud

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Which I think you remember and do you remember everyone calling me stupid for doing on prem storage?

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Yeah, oh, yeah, like for years and years. Why are you such an idiot? Why are you doing on prem storage?

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I like all the video people are doing it Yeah, because because it's freaking expensive to put things in the cloud and annoying

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But what he called was all the compute coming back all the hosted services coming back

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I didn't I didn't I did not see that coming a lot of people told me no when I said it

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But I was like, I don't know. I just feel like it's gonna be a I don't remember what I said

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By that time you you might have been right about so many trends already that I might have just been like

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I don't think it was a okay debate I think we were just kind of like talking about it

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But there there was a few other people that were like no, dude

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Like opening I was going to push so hard to keep everything. Yeah Up up up up up and like looking at how llama's been going. I never lost hope, but I was still like

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Hmm This is not hitting mainstream really, but I guess we can just shift topics now if you want

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Yeah, sure I don't think there's that much more to say about are we wasting our time reviewing GPUs when they get snapped up

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Regardless of what reviewers think of them. Yeah, I think I think genuinely there is potentially an argument to start talking about like

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Okay, what what if we give like an overall 1080p gaving average

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chart In the video and then we do a breakdown of the games on the site

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No I don't know I mean like the thing is people are dipping because of graphs like I feel like we might want to respond to that

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And that doesn't mean the information can't be out there if it's one click away

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Okay, that doesn't feel like it's too bad. Let me present this data in a different way. Okay. Okay

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One million people watched the whole thing

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Just about And I think that that's really important

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Those one million people might go tell three friends or five friends

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And if you take the gaming charts out, you might just lose a different portion of people. I think so. Okay

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I think so. I think that I mean look Labs is

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One of those things that we did not Create to make money. Oh, yeah

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That is Like the the the the narrative that you know everything we do is to make the maximum amount of money is just comically false

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If I wanted to make more money, I would do more sponsored showcase videos and I would do absolutely zero

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building of a lab Luke knows because he's seen the numbers

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But I would literally be millions of dollars more wealthy if I had just not bothered a lot of people think that's hardware cost

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I like it is sure sure. Yeah, that too. Yeah, but hardware space, but no no

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people and uh um

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So, why do we do it? We don't do it because everyone watches the whole video

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Yeah, we do it because it's important. Yeah

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Yeah, um, but yeah, okay, so we can we can jump to this. Yeah, we can jump to the next time

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I'm gonna run through some of the the notes that were written and then we have like the discussion

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Question section for this discussion topic. Whatever you want to call it is like over half the topic

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So we'll get into that but I'll read the notes first on monday january 17th several big tech companies stock markets crashed stocks

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Not markets The market crashed and most of that was big tech companies. Uh, most notably was NVIDIA dropping 17 percent, which is roughly 600

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billion dollars in market cap

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The cause was new ai models developed by chinese company deep seek that reportedly cost less than six million us dollars to train

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Reportedly is a decently important word there. Yes, it is Obviously some analysts became skeptical of this number

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But others said that even if it cost several times that amount it would still be

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Far cheaper to run than current competitors like chat gpt from open ai and that seems to probably be true

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And it's worth noting that we're talking specifically about chat gp or open ai's most recent

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Reasoning model. Yes, right. We're not talking about any like older stuff. We're talking about right now. Yeah, it's kind of

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It's what matters now. Um speaking of open ai us administration's new ai and crypto czar david sacks

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Stated that there's substantial evidence that what deep seek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of open ai's models

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Uh, and I don't think open ai is very happy about this. What reaping what you sow. That's crazy

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Um, dude, that's not in the quote This okay. Sorry. Sorry. Could yeah, keep reading the thing because this is so funny

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This is generally this is actually the funniest thing that will happen on the WAN Show for probably the entire year

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Is open ai being like You traded on our data. You can't train your you can't train your ai on our stuff. It's the spider man meme

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What are you even talking about? Buddy apparently that's unverified apparently that's unverified

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Open ai is accusing deep seek of training deep seeks dataset using responses generated by open ai models

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Open ai is now looking into count counter measures to protect themselves to help prevent distillation and of course

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Their own ip and brand And then we get into the discussion topics

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What do you think gives open ai the right to be upset about their quote-unquote copyrighted material?

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If all they did was scrape the internet for possibly copyrighted material now definitely copyrighted material now in fairness they did

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license Some of the material

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Way later whenever they got in trouble enough to deal with it. Yes

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Do you do have we like noticed ai scraper bots like on our form and stuff like is it a lot?

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Is it basically everything and everyone? Uh, I don't know about

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Plain so much, but all of our other websites. Yeah, cool. Yeah, cool. Cool. Yeah, it's a thing

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it's just I talked to

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Dan Dan seagull about this The guy that runs the the lab's web team and we essentially came to the conclusion of like we can spend

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Time and resources on stopping it or we can spend time and resources on making the site better

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Yeah, let's do the second thing. Well, let's make the site better. Yeah, let's do the second thing. Yeah

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So that's what we're doing At a certain point like it is what it is

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It's going to be a continued arms race So we would be signing up for like a long-term battle and it's just like man

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Add dub asks how do you notice scraper bots?

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It's a good question That is a good question that I'm not going to be able to answer super well

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But usually it's like you can you can tell what they're doing. They don't

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They're they're searching every single page. They're acting in non-human ways. Sometimes they'll even basically flag themselves

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Uh, that's not as common. Um, yeah, people are posting resource usage location. Yeah, that's all very good

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Um, there's there's like a ton of different ways

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Um, cloudflare have decent decent scrapers built it. I think you mean like scraper defense

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They do have that but

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As far as my understanding goes, um, like if you try to block this this might be false

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I want to say that before I say this as far as my understanding goes if you try to block like googles

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ai scraper bot You'll get d ranked

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so Do you want to not be found by anyone including bots? It's like that. It's not really the goal either

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So I don't know but either way it's like it hasn't even been worth the the cycles

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To figure it out because it's like have you played around with deep sea yet? No, not personally, but I've seen its outputs a lot

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And we're it seems like there's been some pretty funny stuff going on some hilarious stuff

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I don't know if it's been like made up. I don't know if they're then let's not bother with it videos. Yeah

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But yeah, we're looking into I am Essentially as of now declaring like all right. I think it's been far enough nick from the lab has been messing around with

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um, local lm's on I think it's a mac mini in the lab for a long time now

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But now it's going to be the point. We're like, okay. I think we want company wrought company wide resources for this

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So we're probably going to build something which will be cool. Oh thinking about making a video for it

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Okay, cool. Elijah has in the notes here that uh, he's never had anyone read out

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Oh, this is all me. Oh, this is you. Okay. Well, do your thing then from here to here is all me

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So, yeah, I'll just I'll just run for it. Yeah, I said while it might still not be mainstream

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I had originally written written like oh local lm is mainstream now. Okay, maybe not

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um Lama has been awesome But nothing has brought local lm in my opinion to the masses like deep seek

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A lot of the conversation that I'm seeing around deep seek is people like concerned about its

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Ties to china or whatever the other half of the conversation has been how incredibly lightweight it is

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I mean even the chat's blowing up about it. Someone was saying that

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It's been tuned down to require only like 80 gigs of shared memory or something like that

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Yeah, which is huge which is well, not huge. No, I mean, it's a huge deal. Yeah

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It's it's it's wild. It's way easier to run locally and I think a lot of people are are seeing the benefits

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Especially when you're looking at chat tpt costs and going like that's $200 a month and m white says bro

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I managed to get the 8-bit quantized version to run on my 30 hdti

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Yeah, like oh, I have a note in here about 3000 series graphics cards being like huge for this, but we'll get to that

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um Yeah, anyway, sorry. I'll just keep going then we can discuss for a little bit

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um But yeah, people are worried about its ties to china or whatever But you can fairly easily just like ignore those by running it locally and even entirely offline

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So you don't have to use their chat bot thing you can run it locally

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You can run it entirely offline so they aren't getting reports or data from it or anything

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And I've heard from many other people that you can tune it

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So people have found that it'll censor certain responses that you might expect a piece of software from china to censor

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But you can just make it not Wow, you're running it locally. You're in control. So like cool. Okay

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I I don't know that you're gonna get away from all of its potential biases to be super clear

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But it's open source someone if open chat just pointed out you can fork it

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like The fact that this is open source is the craziest part the fact

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The fact that so much of this stuff llama now deep seek is all going open source is wild and

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Yeah, I don't know anyways My next note is that I've never had anyone reach out asking about how to run LLMS locally or what hardware to get for anything

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In the last week. I've had no less than 10 I saw a thread on twitter where some someone put together

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Um, just like a hardware list with like a couple epic cpus

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They were like, look, you don't even like need gpus because that'll be way more expensive. So we're just going to use system memory

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We're going to use CPU. Uh, here's the motherboard you need they put together this hardware list that was

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Yeah, sure. It's still thousands and thousands of dollars or whatever But compared to what you would have needed before to do it on a GPU

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Um, uh, it's like you can even do it so much cheaper than that too. Yeah. No, but this was

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This was but this was earlier in the week before anyone knew how uh, how much it could be optimized

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For smaller memory footprints, so it needed like a bunch of RAM But anyway, the the point is not any of that the point is that this post had like tens of thousands of upvotes

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Like like this is happening like There's a shift this is such a niche

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topic Or it isn't yeah, not really anymore

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And the fact that you can plug and play with with different models once you get it locally means it's not really gonna go out date

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It seems like they're getting easier to run not harder And you're looking at a 200 a month bill and going wow

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I can really distill this out in like half a year and then it's it's gravy from there is crazy

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Yeah, compared to buying a subscription to like a like is open ai just gonna

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Go out of business. No, I don't think so and I have I haven't noticed that later on

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Yeah, let's talk about okay. Do some of the flowpoint chat pointed out apparently there's 6400 forks already on github

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So like Yeah, the whole like oh ties to china stuff

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I don't think it matters this this really to me feels like an economic blow

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It feels like an attack against not just open ai But honestly the entire american tech sector the fact that they made the chat bot free

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And they completely open sourced it so you can't even pull the the china card very well

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I don't see a reason to do that other than to just hyper dunk on

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the american tech industry Anyways, I'm gonna keep going. Oh, yeah, I've never had people asked before

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I had no less than 10 in the last week and I've had people telling me like hey

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Sorry to ask what I'm asking on behalf of like another friend that is really interested in I'm wondering if you know

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I am personally trying to pressure wendell to make a video on this so that I can just link it to people because I

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Want to stop writing the same thing over and over again, then he's gonna know better than me anyways

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Um, and he said something along the lines of like soon tm. I think

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Um, that seems like the kind of thing wendell would would do. Yeah, so hopefully he does it

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But I don't know when and I'm not saying he's going to but yeah

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What I what I have in here is what I will say is what's really popular right now is mac minis because of the shared memory

00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:10.600
so mac studio As well because that one you can configure with way more RAM

00:41:11.160 --> 00:41:16.760
Nice, and you don't need a crazy amount though. Well the mac mini with the m4 pro even okay

00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.440
So with the m4 it tops out at 32 gigs. That's pretty good with the m4 pro it tops out at 64

00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:31.000
But the max studio is is honestly not that unreasonably priced compared to the mini if as soon once you start to upgrade it

00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:36.600
And it maxes out. I I believe 192 gigs. I mean that's sick. I just it's

00:41:37.560 --> 00:41:41.160
So much more than what that's basically everyone needs

00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:46.120
I'm not my main point here is that you can go as low as something like that

00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.840
Like I've seen a lot of people being like oh, I'm going to get

00:41:49.560 --> 00:41:57.000
340 90s and like I'm like bro like no and NVIDIA's little ai super computer for five grand or whatever

00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:03.400
Is going to look completely irrelevant compared to a mac mini. Yeah, if we don't if we don't need

00:42:03.640 --> 00:42:06.520
All that RAM if we don't need a powerful

00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:12.120
We'll have to see how good digits is but but yeah for the vast majority of people that aren't running this for like

00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.400
A group or a team of people you've run one person

00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:21.000
I really think like the the mac mini keep it cheap play if you're going for one person is not bad

00:42:21.240 --> 00:42:28.120
I would also want to point out um that 3000 series gpus are in a in my opinion really cool sweet spot

00:42:28.520 --> 00:42:32.360
Um and on all of this Dan i'm interested in your input too. Maybe when I get through my notes

00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.840
Yeah, Dan you need to sell those 30 90s

00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.520
No Oh, well if you just want the cash. Yeah

00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:44.440
There's a lot right now dude 39 because of the 24 gigs of vram. So yeah, my next no, I bought them

00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.040
39 3000 series gpus especially the 30 90 due to its 24 gigs of vram

00:42:50.200 --> 00:42:54.200
Which didn't increase with the 40 90 and while it did increase with the 50 90

00:42:54.360 --> 00:43:02.200
It wasn't by a huge amount and those like don't exist. So 30 90s are selling now for still over a thousand dollars

00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:06.440
When did they first come out? So, you know, what's funny? I think over four years ago

00:43:06.600 --> 00:43:11.080
And what was the end was almost five years ago? MSRP was 1200 us dollars

00:43:12.040 --> 00:43:15.000
And it came out in september 24th of 2020

00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:23.480
Yeah Holy crap, but they have 24 gigs of vram. You know, what's really funny is

00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:31.240
I kind of mocked jensen's keynote when he said that buying that 40 90 was a great investment

00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:42.520
I Mean the 30 90 might have been no no 40 90s have held their value incredibly well. Oh, yeah, even though the 50 90 and 50 80 have been

00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:48.520
Announced released benchmarked everything ploof was telling me that he can still get about

00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:54.920
2000 canadian dollars for his 40 90 That's wild and this is a card that fair the 50 90s don't exist

00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.200
And so he's been he's been gaming on it for two years

00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:02.920
So if you compare that right like if you could buy if you could buy a car today

00:44:03.640 --> 00:44:07.640
for $10,000 Drive it for two years

00:44:07.640 --> 00:44:10.680
And then sell it for 9500 dollars

00:44:11.720 --> 00:44:19.400
Then basically you were paying like 40 bucks a month in rent or whatever to rent a car like it's like it's like it's trivial

00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:30.440
Compared to how we used to think of these things It used to be that when I bought a 500 dollar graphics card when the next generation came out that thing was worth 200 bucks

00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.400
Like it was it was functionally worthless

00:44:34.040 --> 00:44:41.400
whereas now What the f**k is going on two generational GPU. I'm on facebook marketplace here. Okay

00:44:42.200 --> 00:44:48.680
And 30 90s are like a thousand dollars now. That's canadian dollars. That's that's rubles worth about four bucks

00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:54.760
I need to buy more. So let's do a quick correction. Okay, we'll do a quick conversion here. Okay, so we got the

00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.880
Oh, no, baby sad

00:45:00.520 --> 00:45:02.520
Okay, so that's you know

00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:09.720
But still Dude, that's a four and a half year old GPU

00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:16.360
Or like 4.4.25 or whatever whatever the math works. It's over four year old GPU

00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:23.240
That is now two generations out of date and they are sick at running these systems because of the 24 gigs of eram

00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.880
actually crazy

00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:33.080
Uh Yeah, I just had to mentally

00:45:33.080 --> 00:45:37.560
Check I like a new but I didn't want to say the wrong thing and it sounds incorrect

00:45:37.720 --> 00:45:42.760
No way the fact that the 5080 is 16 gigs is like what a queen boo in chat

00:45:43.160 --> 00:45:46.040
Says that they're still like 900 us dollars on ebay

00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:52.120
I wonder if this is one of those things where some of the canadian sellers don't realize how worthless the cat is right now

00:45:53.720 --> 00:45:58.920
Maybe I should be should I be buying canadian 30 90s and flipping them in america? Let's go

00:45:59.960 --> 00:46:01.960
Oh, dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Look at this

00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:07.320
This founder's edition is at 930 us dollars. That's a bid

00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:14.600
That's a freaking auction. Wow You got to be kidding me. No, no, hold on. This can't be right. This can't be right. Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on

00:46:14.600 --> 00:46:19.880
Hold on. Where's my sold? Where's my sold at sold items? Here we go. Completed. I am sold items. No, no, okay. No, no

00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.440
Well, actually no, dude, dude

00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:26.440
dude Oh, this is two. No, these are parts only

00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:34.280
You got to be you got to be kidding me here. You got to be kidding me here 830 us 830 us. Yeah, they're going for 800 to

00:46:34.680 --> 00:46:38.760
a thousand us dollars that's

00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.600
Bunkers and it's just because of VRAM. I when the 50 90s VRAM was announced

00:46:42.680 --> 00:46:46.920
I was openly disappointed and a few people questioned it because they're like, oh, I went up it went up

00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.200
I'm like, yeah, but it didn't go up last gen. So if you compare it

00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.160
Uh, like you you can't ignore the fact

00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.480
That it didn't go up with the 40 90 in my opinion. I think that's what makes it worse

00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:04.200
Because that means in in however many years we we've gone up like eight gigs

00:47:04.200 --> 00:47:11.960
Yikes We are never yikes. We are never building a 30 90 pc in scrapyard wars

00:47:14.520 --> 00:47:22.360
Yeah, probably Literally never they're gonna be a thousand dollars forever. That's brutal. This is ridiculous

00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:27.240
So if I bought if I got an msrp

00:47:27.720 --> 00:47:31.640
30 90 at launch, okay 30 90 launch msrp

00:47:31.720 --> 00:47:38.200
I believe it was 1200 but let's just oh, no, I'm wrong. Am I wrong? It was 14 99. Okay. So

00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.920
Is that right fair bit higher? Okay. How much was the 30 90 ti?

00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:53.480
1999 okay, so 1500 us dollars, you know what my point still works if I bought this thing at launch

00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:58.200
Okay, so launch date was let's just double check that september of

00:47:59.080 --> 00:48:02.280
Uh, september 24th of 2020 was it?

00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:08.840
Uh, oh for the the 30 90 release. Yeah, I believe so. I believe it was 2020

00:48:09.560 --> 00:48:14.440
Yes, September 24th 2020. So how many how many months is that? That's like 50 months

00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:20.760
So this thing has gone down in value by anywhere from 500 to 700 dollars. Let's call it 600 dollars

00:48:21.640 --> 00:48:25.720
Okay, so 600 dollars divided by 50 months

00:48:26.680 --> 00:48:34.600
Means That I could have a 59 or excuse me a 30 90 in my computer from launch day till now

00:48:35.160 --> 00:48:43.640
For 12 dollars a month. Yeah, wow And I could and I could sell this thing and get back that much of my money that is flipping

00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.560
Pun intended crazy. That's pretty nuts

00:48:48.200 --> 00:48:51.800
Yeah, 1590 like what's a g-force? What's a g-force now subscription?

00:48:52.040 --> 00:48:59.880
Like is this gonna justify g-force now no because g-force now is going to be more expensive than just

00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.440
Buying a 30 90

00:49:03.720 --> 00:49:10.120
Buying a 30 90 on launch day to be clear. Yeah to be clear and using it the whole time and actually putting in the work to flip it

00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.000
Wait, you've got to be kidding me mind on it g-force now is sold out

00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:22.840
This is NVIDIA's game streaming service

00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.000
What

00:49:29.240 --> 00:49:32.520
They're running out of subs they've limited that's weird

00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:38.120
For weeks They ran out of they ran out of cloud

00:49:40.680 --> 00:49:44.840
All this tells us is that Literally

00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:49.960
quite literally Every wafer. Yeah, NVIDIA can get

00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:55.640
Goes straight To the data center. Yeah, I mean

00:49:56.440 --> 00:50:00.200
50 90 50 80 appear to be functionally paper launches. Yeah

00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.520
They can't even they can't even put GPUs in their own days in their own data center

00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:11.720
Wow Even NVIDIA can't get the GPUs they need, right?

00:50:13.640 --> 00:50:19.720
Oh, okay. Hold on someone says read the news. They're changing payment processors. So they've halted subscriptions. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hold on hold on hold on

00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:25.240
So whoever had is not paying until they figure this out. Okay. Okay. Okay. Maybe it's not that bad. Maybe it's not that bad

00:50:25.240 --> 00:50:27.880
Okay, this is why it's nice to have chat. Thanks chat. You guys are great

00:50:29.720 --> 00:50:34.600
Okay, well how much I don't know how much it costs then the point is I'm pretty sure that this would be less than

00:50:35.160 --> 00:50:39.480
Less than a g-force now subscription You also have to pay for the rest of stuff in your computer

00:50:39.560 --> 00:50:47.720
But I guess you'd also have to a device to run g-force now Yeah, and you might just like having a computer in general. So, you know, whatever my point is just like what you're paying for this the GPU

00:50:48.520 --> 00:50:53.320
Unless you're an ai developer or whatever functions as a gaming device. Yeah, yeah, right

00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:59.240
yep And and that 30 90 is not uh, not far off

00:50:59.560 --> 00:51:04.360
Is actually better than a 40 80 in terms of performance anyway, and that's the ultimate tier as well

00:51:04.520 --> 00:51:09.560
So you don't even have to spend You know the $1,500 at at launch or whatever

00:51:11.080 --> 00:51:17.800
Well, how do we I don't say it's 20 bucks per month ultimate. There you go. Yeah, so literally cheaper

00:51:19.080 --> 00:51:21.400
Then streaming just buy the computer. Yeah

00:51:23.160 --> 00:51:28.840
Crazy because that's Crazy, this is crazy. We live in crazy timeline a limited amount of time

00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.880
You can use g-force now for like you have limited hours per month ultimate

00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:35.800
I don't think is limited eight hour session lengths and then when you're done the session

00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:40.920
It's not gonna be enough for some of the people watching right now. I guarantee you. Why are you calling out Dan like that?

00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.520
uh That might not be enough for Dan sometimes

00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:53.640
No, i'm not even just saying for gamey because Dan does a lot of stuff on his computer Oh, and there's q times too. Even the ultimate. There's q times. That's a workstation computer that also plays video games

00:51:53.720 --> 00:51:56.040
Exactly, right? So like eight hour sessions. I don't know

00:51:56.840 --> 00:52:02.200
Maybe not. Oh, did I leave though? I put on a brand new shirt before the show. I'm saying all this big talk

00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.640
It wouldn't work for me. Yeah No

00:52:05.640 --> 00:52:14.040
All right, there we go. Sorry about that guys. What'd you do? I I had the uh the extra button in the plastic bag hanging off the back of my shirt. I was bothering people in the chat

00:52:14.200 --> 00:52:19.960
It's the style. You did it on purpose. All right. What are we supposed to be talking about? Let's do some harsh messages. No, i'm not done

00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:25.800
I'm not done. Okay carry on. My next line is uh, don't expect openly. I did not have an answer for this

00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:31.880
Um, I I don't think they're just gonna like roll over. I do I'm not personally surprised

00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:37.960
I saw a lot of hot takes when the market crashed at like all these dumb idiot investor people don't understand that

00:52:38.520 --> 00:52:44.120
They still use gpus for this stuff. Um, I actually understand the crash personally because

00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:50.440
what this signaled was that you can do it much more efficiently and

00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:56.120
The stock price for NVIDIA as insanely inflated as it probably still is

00:52:56.600 --> 00:53:00.440
um A big part of the reason why it was so inflated was because of the incredible

00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:06.040
Inefficiency of ai stuff and the incredible amount of power that were people were needing to buy from NVIDIA

00:53:06.520 --> 00:53:15.800
Um, so if if it's more efficient Then the hundreds of millions billions of dollars being flooded into NVIDIA to buy every single possible thing

00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:22.360
Anyone could possibly scrape for them is maybe not as much of a thing as it was in the past probably still a thing

00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:31.720
Yeah, and the and the the the Positive for NVIDIA stock, you know spin on that is well by being so much more efficient

00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:37.400
So many more people are going to run these things and so they're going to sell even more gpus

00:53:38.120 --> 00:53:43.560
It remains to be seen how that plays out, but this way we're at least presenting sort of both sides of the argument

00:53:43.640 --> 00:53:48.040
I have a really interesting take on this which is probably pie in the sky and

00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:54.200
hopeful whatever but Um, is there is if a lot of people coming down is it

00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:59.800
Calling it's good. Yeah, the pie. It's the it's the pizza on the roof from breaking bad. Um, but uh

00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:08.600
I don't know man. If a lot of people buy some of these to have local lm's at home. Yeah more gaming pieces

00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:16.760
Maybe more gaming pieces if you're looking at electronic spending for your home and you

00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:24.200
You could have a console wait. Why do you sorry? What what do you think if you buy a high-end GPU sure to run an llm at home

00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:29.080
Oh, so you game on it. So you're just going like convert the convert the faithless

00:54:29.640 --> 00:54:39.800
Bring everyone to pc gaming because They can't run an llm on their xbox. Yeah, really deep seek destroys console peasants. Yeah, that's the headline. Yeah

00:54:41.080 --> 00:54:44.520
Okay, xbox is dying anyways like that dominoes meme

00:54:46.520 --> 00:54:50.920
Sure switch two is going to sell at quibillion units and is also incredibly boring

00:54:51.640 --> 00:54:55.080
Yeah, it's probably the most boring console in nintendo has ever announced

00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.680
Oh, that's an interesting debate. Hold on. Let's see

00:54:59.640 --> 00:55:01.880
The most boring console

00:55:08.120 --> 00:55:10.120
New ds

00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:18.360
Oh, do you count? Oh, this is technically I can't even I can't even remember a bit of a hybrid all the different variants of ds

00:55:18.600 --> 00:55:25.160
At this point to be honest with you Wasn't it like new ds plus or something? Yeah, I'm getting a lot of support in chat

00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.320
There's a lot of yes was not boring because 2ds was an affordability play

00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:36.360
2ds was way cheaper people are saying the new 2ds so somewhere between what you and I are saying

00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:40.840
but basically one of the flipping ds's like I'm I'm not convinced that because

00:55:41.560 --> 00:55:49.640
Like gameboy advance is huge gameboy advance was huge gameboy color was huge back then there was a pretty clear delineation between console and handheld

00:55:49.720 --> 00:55:54.920
I know it's become blurry now, but it was it's a console. It was clearly it's a handheld gaming console

00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:59.560
It was clearly separate. Don't even give me that. It was clearly separate. You know it. Don't even give me that

00:55:59.640 --> 00:56:02.440
It's clearly separate. You know it we you then got him

00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:06.440
He wasn't boring. It's I mean no one was interested in it

00:56:07.160 --> 00:56:12.200
No one knew what it was the definition of boring is I don't know don't care. No, it was so

00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:17.000
It was so exotic that people couldn't figure out what it was

00:56:17.560 --> 00:56:22.280
It definitely wasn't boring. It was weird. It was very weird. It was not boring. It might not have been good

00:56:22.520 --> 00:56:27.080
I liked it might not have been good though. Is he talking about you or is he talking about sex?

00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.680
What just go back and watch that listen to that whole thing

00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:39.960
What's he talking about? No one could figure it out. No, I don't I'm just I'm just it just sounded like you were talking about it doesn't matter

00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:47.720
um the point is The answer is virtual boy. Okay, the answer is always virtual boy. Virtual boy is not boring. Okay, that's true

00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.640
That's true. You're going for like bad or didn't sell well. I actually not the point

00:56:51.640 --> 00:56:53.800
I'm actually kind of excited for switch two

00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:59.400
If okay, because I I have I have I have a little theory. I have a little theory

00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:05.000
It's a it's a me theory But they they used the newer encoding engine. Yes, that could

00:57:05.640 --> 00:57:12.760
Move it to being more interesting if I think what they do with that Yeah, if if it uses because we haven't even seen yet on 50 series

00:57:13.560 --> 00:57:20.360
What is what that's going to mean for things like moonlight for for streaming like is is the quality because it's garbage in garbage out

00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:25.240
Right, so if if you are encoding at at much higher

00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:33.080
um color depth then Or with at fortuitu basically if you're if you're encoding with much higher quality

00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:39.320
Then when you decode that on the other side on your you know on your tv or on your handheld device

00:57:40.040 --> 00:57:44.520
Or you know on your like logitech gcloud or whatever, right when you decode that

00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:48.600
Theoretically it should look better. I haven't we haven't had a chance to look at any of this yet

00:57:49.080 --> 00:57:55.000
Um, this is potentially another w for big GPU. Enjoy your llm people. Yeah, I guess that's true

00:57:55.160 --> 00:58:01.560
Just saying but but anyway, the point is that if nintendo is using a newer generation encoder that I don't know

00:58:01.560 --> 00:58:05.960
Has really great latency or really great encoding quality and I can stream

00:58:06.520 --> 00:58:11.880
My switch from somewhere else. I think it kind of brings some of the spirit of the wu

00:58:12.520 --> 00:58:16.920
Into modern era which is which is kind of cool. So I can use it three ways now

00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:25.320
I can use it docked at the tv I can use it handheld or I can use it docked at the tv with a separate lightweight high battery life handheld

00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:29.880
That would be flipping cool with like a mobile app or something. I don't know that nintendo would go mobile app

00:58:30.040 --> 00:58:33.000
I mean, so many did though. You can buy a ps portal or you can just

00:58:33.640 --> 00:58:38.360
Not and you can just use an Android app. That's super cool. I didn't know that actually. Yeah, that's cool

00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:44.520
Yeah, no, it's genuinely cool. So the logitech gcloud is one of the few examples

00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:50.440
Now that I've been doing this so many years I generally have a pretty good idea if something's going to be phenomenally stupid

00:58:51.160 --> 00:58:57.320
Before I start reviewing it But that was one of the few examples of something that I was completely dismissive of

00:58:58.040 --> 00:59:03.000
And I went into it and I was like, oh This is this makes

00:59:03.080 --> 00:59:07.560
For the right person. I mean, I don't still use one because I just game on an ally

00:59:08.040 --> 00:59:11.960
I'd have my compute locally because I prefer the lower latency, but but for the right person

00:59:12.600 --> 00:59:18.840
There's a lot of games makes a ton of sense because the battery life's great And there's a ton of games where it doesn't matter. There's a ton of games where it doesn't matter

00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:23.640
Civ 7's right around the corner. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't play that with a controller, but like

00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:30.920
I know people do On a yeah, maybe not on a switch, but on a steam deck. You have those pads

00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:34.840
Dude, someone messaged me on steam the other day saying they play anno on their handheld

00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:42.040
I know right, but they're they've really enjoying it. Steam deck has the touch pads, right? Yeah, it might not be as bad

00:59:42.680 --> 00:59:49.000
Man, I think that would suck though I would not want to play anno anno is a whole different beast than than

00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:56.120
There you go Okay, so it is a steam deck because I'm not surprised. No, no, no, this isn't the post

00:59:56.120 --> 00:59:59.640
This is just this is just a post of someone playing anno on the steam deck

01:00:00.200 --> 01:00:03.880
Yeah, lower the graphics setting to medium still stutters a bit. I'll report back later. Yeah, no

01:00:05.160 --> 01:00:11.320
No, it's not the easiest game to run ever. It actually is and it has a super weird optimization curve. So

01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:19.480
Um at that when you max it out It will it will kind of crush your GPU in spite of honestly not really looking that much more better

01:00:19.560 --> 01:00:24.440
That's probably why I didn't think it was and it has some issues like if you if you max max it out and you're in

01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:31.000
x12 mode I can't remember but it will basically fail to launch and they've just never fixed it

01:00:31.560 --> 01:00:38.120
But at relatively low detail settings the developers specifically optimized it to run it until the integrated graphics

01:00:38.600 --> 01:00:45.560
Whoa. Yeah, so it actually runs really well. Wow if you turn the details down. That's actually sick. Yeah, that's cool

01:00:46.040 --> 01:00:48.040
I love stuff like that. I didn't know that at all

01:00:50.200 --> 01:00:57.640
That's that's Oh, we're supposed to explain merge messages now. Are you done? No, okay carry on. Uh, I think I was actually kind of kidding

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Um, yeah, I don't know. I feel like I could talk about this stuff forever

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Um, so he's done. But this is this is earmarking like I I do want us to get some local resources one for people to

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Just start playing with it. Um, but also like I want to start running better models for like inline IDE assistance for developers

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Uh, locally and potentially remote and not paying like big fat fees to open a i for that

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Cool would be pretty cool, especially if we can just like make a video doing it and then

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You know that helps pay for it to be pretty sick speaking of helping pay for things

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If you guys like the show you want to interact don't just throw money at your screen

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We don't really do twitch bits or super chats or anything like that We do merge messages to send a merge message. All you got to do is go to lttstore.com add some great

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incredible stuff like our new sport

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Button up shirt to your cart and you will get a little box that you can fill out and send in a merge message

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Uh, we're gonna do a couple of them show you guys how it works But basically it'll go to producer Dan who will reply a little something like that. Look at that

01:02:04.120 --> 01:02:08.760
He's ready to wave. He's ready to wave. I was waving already. Are you ready to wave now? Oh, no got oh

01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:12.280
Well, there he is. Oh nice. What what can't we with that hand? Sorry

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Anyway, the point is it goes through to producer Dan He will reply or he'll forward it to someone or he will curate it for me and luke

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But before we do a couple of them to show you how it works. Uh, let's talk about our new sport button up luke

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Do you like wearing dress shirts? No? Yeah, that's fair and you know what I get it sometimes they suck. Uh, they're stiff. They're sweaty. They don't move with your body

01:02:33.560 --> 01:02:38.840
Well, our fashion team made it their mission to prove that you can look like you have your life together

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While still also being comfy. That's why we made the sport button-up shirt

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It's made from the same four-way stretch material that we use for our premium sport joggers

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It's lightweight. It moves with your body and is even sweat wicking

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I see you

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It's super versatile It can be easily paired with a suit or worn casually on top of a t-shirt

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It also has a handy pocket to stash your pens snacks or patience

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And of course we couldn't go without adding a little bit of flair on the back bottom left of the shirt is a fun rainbow reflective LTT logo

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Oh

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From my experience, uh, don't wash that or don't dry that on with heat

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Just you know care instructions and all that just anyway, they're available now at LMG.gg slash sport

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Button up then if you want to hit all the chats with that that would be swell

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Uh, we also have one more announcement before we get started on merch messages

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Help us make our website better over the past few years

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We've expanded into so many different product categories on LTT Store

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We know that sometimes it can be a bit of a challenge to find what you're looking for

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Fortunately, we're working on making the store a little bit easier to navigate

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But to do it right we need your input if you're interested in contributing

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Please scan the qr code to take part and this says Dan show the thing which he's already doing. What a guy

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What a guy All right, shall we do a couple merch messages? We shall let's do that

01:04:08.120 --> 01:04:14.200
Just got a new mechanical keyboard and so far I hate it because of things like chattering and keys getting mistyped

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Is there a way to fix that or what are your suggestions?

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He's getting mistyped so far. I hate it because of things like chattering and keys getting mistyped

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uh

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I'm trying to think what would even cause that like if you had a crappy mechanical keyboard. Well, is it I

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I would return it Yeah, to be honest. Yeah, that's a good idea

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I would just return it because well, I'm just trying to think what would even cause that like if you have really cheap

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mechanical switches and the stems wobble or if you had

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Really heavy caps point is that a weird part and if you type in a certain way and you kind of like bounce

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It can it can like triple register. I think that's what he means by chattering

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The the you've got bad switches, bro. They're like miss input of the keys or whatever however he described it

01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:15.560
um Keys getting mistyped keys getting mistyped. I don't fully know what that means. You got a bad keyboard, but just return

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I think you got a broken keyboard if your keyboard isn't keyboarding send it back

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Yeah, get a different keyboard because man, you can get dude. You can get affordable

01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:27.800
You can get mechanical keyboards for less than you just spent on LTT Store

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That are great these days. So you just need to find one of those go the other direction, right?

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You can not i'm not telling you to spend a lot of money, but there's there's infinite scaling here

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And genuinely there's people who spend thousands of dollars on the keyboards

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um You can you can build your own you could go with a really fancy pre-built one

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You could go with a lower end pre-built one that just isn't junk like it sounds like yours is unfortunately

01:05:52.520 --> 01:05:55.720
Um, someone said keychron for not too much. I really like keychron stuff

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Um, I was really impressed by the one that we showed in the all china pc

01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:05.480
Uh, let me just get past this ad and then I will I will show it

01:06:05.720 --> 01:06:08.520
It's an ad for galaxy ai

01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:14.280
There are genuinely a ton of options though and those issues that you're describing should not exist. That is that is

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Uh Bad don't accept that just send it back get your money back

01:06:22.520 --> 01:06:31.640
You can't you can't have like Oh, look at that. Look at that it happened to go right to the part where we were talking about the keyboard amazing 50 bucks for this ala

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Whatever it is

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Oh Dang we can't we can't wait. We can't praise them like that's gonna go to his head. Damn. I'm pretty good sometimes

01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:47.880
Hold on. That was all the time. Dang. That was pretty good. Dang. What the heck?

01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:52.040
I don't remember doing that. If you buy this keyboard you have to do you have to try to do that when you get it

01:06:53.560 --> 01:07:00.760
Yeah, so this f 98 was like 50 bucks and I was dude. I was super impressed by it. This this is super nice

01:07:01.560 --> 01:07:12.040
All right, cool Hi lld what single thing in tech has made you feel the oldest my mom's master project was on ray tracing and it is now in a museum

01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:21.400
I mean That's sick. That's super cool. Your mom sounds awesome

01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:26.280
Just putting that out there. I don't have to try that hard to feel old in tech

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Just because so much of my life is just doing tech things and talking about tech

01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:34.520
You gotta post whatever that project is on the reddit. Yeah, for sure. Please do that

01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:41.720
Sammy or the forum to Sammy pointed out discord too that we're at the five-year anniversary of the i'm thinking about retiring stream that

01:07:42.520 --> 01:07:49.640
Completely blew my mind I was playing have I talked on wanchoe before about playing lords of the realm 2 with my son

01:07:50.120 --> 01:07:55.800
I have okay. That made me feel pretty old that you know, what was a game that I played when I was

01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:04.440
Not much younger than him Looks like, you know crude chicken scratch 2d compared to what exists now

01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:12.600
It all makes me feel old like you look at 10 year old games and it's like, uh, it doesn't look too bad

01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:14.760
You look at 20 year old games and you're like, oh

01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:18.520
That looks pretty old. You look at 30 old games and it's like, whoa

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And then and then you remember

01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:26.840
How amazing you thought it looked. Oh, yeah, like I remember playing

01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:29.880
Especially the 20 year old ones. I remember playing. Um

01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:34.760
I thought morwin looks sick Soul reaver legacy of cane

01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:40.360
I remember being impressed with the water and morwin. Okay, it's horrible. It's so bad

01:08:41.240 --> 01:08:46.840
But I went from like an n64 to that man, whatever So I remember playing this game

01:08:47.400 --> 01:08:55.400
Okay, and thinking that the in game, you know seemed kind of like that

01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:04.680
Um Box art no this that yeah, that must be a remaster. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, where here we go. Here we go. This is it

01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:10.200
It didn't It did not look like the box art. This this is what it looked like

01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:15.800
And I remember thinking wow, this looks so incredible. I mean the fact that it was 3d at all blew my mind

01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:21.720
Would it come out? Uh, that's a good question soul reaver legacy of cane

01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:26.360
But I don't know 1999

01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:31.400
That's pretty good for 99. Yeah, I mean it was good for 99, but it doesn't look pretty good

01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:38.440
It doesn't look very good today. What about the original mech warriors? Oh, I remember thinking that was just like the boxes

01:09:39.160 --> 01:09:42.520
Dude, I didn't dad. I need a better GPU so I could play back warriors of one

01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:47.000
I never tried a mech warrior game until like way after the fact

01:09:47.080 --> 01:09:51.640
So I was going back and trying to play them once, you know, graphics were good

01:09:52.120 --> 01:10:00.360
And I was just like this is not fun Like it's it's not good enough to be fun some some old games still managed to be pretty fun

01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:04.440
The biggest problem for me with old games is not the graphics. It's the control schema

01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:12.920
Some of the old controls for games are just like yeah, we Go back and you're you're just so confused about the quality of life stuff that we've just take we take that for granted

01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:19.080
Yeah, that always gets me. I can overlook a decent amount of that for me. It really it's the controls when you can't change them

01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:23.880
Yeah, I'm willing to bet this game would still be fun

01:10:25.160 --> 01:10:27.160
This is specter

01:10:30.040 --> 01:10:35.480
Whoa, it's a it's a tank game. I guarantee you this game made people motion say oh, there we go. That's a little better

01:10:36.280 --> 01:10:42.680
I don't look sick. I don't look looking this good. That is super playable. Yeah, so you had multiple views

01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:47.480
And there was a there was a wire frame. There was like a wire frame view

01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:53.720
So your tank wouldn't be solid. It could be like, uh, you're gonna see through a little bit. Yeah, it gives me tron vibes

01:10:54.440 --> 01:10:58.360
Yeah, it was pretty cool. That's wicked for mac man back when yeah, it looked like this

01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:04.680
91 Let's go. Yeah, here it is. Here it is. Here it is. That must have been a banger in 91

01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:07.720
And this is this is the explosions when you blow up a tank, dude. It's so cool

01:11:08.280 --> 01:11:12.760
I like it because that almost feels like an like a like an art style thing more than a limitation

01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:17.960
Which is always cool. I've seen stuff come out these days with that kind of graphic style. Yeah, sweet

01:11:18.120 --> 01:11:23.480
What about chips challenge? Did you either of you play chips challenge? I did bummer. I did but bummer

01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:27.240
I shook my head. Oh No, that's from they used to say that in the game

01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:32.360
Classy. Oh, I don't remember that. I don't even know if my computer had speakers at that point. Mm-hmm

01:11:33.160 --> 01:11:37.480
You couldn't take that kind of thing for granted. All right. What kind of midi card you got in there, but

01:11:39.320 --> 01:11:42.600
Midi your sound card works perfectly

01:11:43.480 --> 01:11:45.480
I got a sound blaster. Oh

01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:53.640
Uh, what are we supposed to do? Yeah, james

01:11:55.240 --> 01:12:01.640
What plane chat he knows what that's from? Uh, what are we doing now two more topics? What do you want to talk about?

01:12:03.240 --> 01:12:05.240
Luke you want to pick one?

01:12:06.360 --> 01:12:12.920
Sure Oh, I lied. I'm picking it. I just picked one fine

01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:21.240
We can yours fine. No, you'll do yours All right, uh, we can poison ai now and even more. Oh, no, no more ai. Okay. No, we're doing mine

01:12:21.480 --> 01:12:27.720
What it's so good talking about ai again. It's so good pebble fami mentioned on wancho pebble's coming back

01:12:28.200 --> 01:12:32.360
All right, hackaday reported on a flurry of pebble news this week

01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:38.440
Pebble if you guys don't remember was an e-paper smartwatch that was introduced with a Kickstarter in

01:12:39.320 --> 01:12:42.760
2012 uh, let's see if we can find some file footage

01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:49.320
Pebble watch Oh

01:12:50.120 --> 01:12:55.560
Of course, it's all Okay, look at that the first one that's actually from then

01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:05.640
This guy What a nerd. I know not her. Yeah, hold on. I mean she might be a nerd. Wait a minute. Oh, it's unskippable

01:13:06.120 --> 01:13:10.760
Forget it. I'm over it Anyway, the point is I

01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:17.640
Loved the pebble not because it had a bunch of great functionality or because it was the best looking device with the

01:13:18.120 --> 01:13:24.360
cleanest most minimalistic design But because it just freaking did what it was supposed to do

01:13:24.440 --> 01:13:31.800
Which was it displayed my stupid notifications for me and it had an easy to use interface with physical flipping buttons

01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:39.800
Dude, it was so easy to use that I actually still up until I um

01:13:41.080 --> 01:13:46.440
Togethered my motorcycle a couple of years ago was still using a pebble time

01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:51.640
Which was a successor to this one after so there was this and the pebble steel than the pebble time if I recall correctly

01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:56.280
I was still using a pebble time to control media playback when I would ride my motorcycle

01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:59.720
I I hot glued a magnet to the back of it

01:14:00.120 --> 01:14:04.280
And then I hot glued a magnet to my bike and then I would just put it on there

01:14:04.280 --> 01:14:09.240
So I could take it off and charge it and then throw it on my bike for my for my in helmet speakers like

01:14:10.200 --> 01:14:14.760
Why the crap? Is no one else making a super energy efficient?

01:14:15.400 --> 01:14:22.200
smartwatch with physical buttons is exactly what the uh original pebble founder

01:14:22.440 --> 01:14:27.160
Eric Mijakovsky said when he launched repubble.com and was like dang it

01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:32.040
If no one's gonna do this after we were acquired by google in 2021

01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:37.320
Then are rather acquired by fitbit in 2016 which was then acquired by google in 2021

01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:40.040
Then we're just going to bring it back and this is so cool

01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:45.400
A team including former pebblers turned googlers has been working on

01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:50.920
Open sourcing the os for the last year the code is on github. So not only

01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:57.960
Is eric relaunching the pebble with repubble.com so i'm just going to fire this up here

01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:02.040
but Oh, hold on

01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:09.720
Oh, no, I just typed it But but hold on i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do this successfully open sources popping off on way

01:15:10.040 --> 01:15:15.320
Not only is he relaunching some hardware, but this might not be the only hardware

01:15:16.280 --> 01:15:23.000
Because the os is open source. That is so cool. That is very cool. That is so flipping cool

01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:27.800
Bringing it back. It's open source. We're making new pebble watches

01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:33.160
Anyone can use pebble os in any way they want. Do you want a new pebble? Uh, yeah a little bit

01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:42.600
Freaking awesome I'm personally really excited because as much as I wear an apple watch. I don't like it

01:15:43.400 --> 01:15:48.200
I have never liked a smartwatch the way that I liked my pebble. Oh, it's google

01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:53.640
Open sourcing this. Yeah, super cool. I I assumed they left the company to work on this, but yeah

01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:55.880
No, this is officially google open sourcing. Yeah

01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:03.320
It's so cool Sweet Okay, these announcements have caused some serious excitement for the rebel

01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:10.200
Project which has been working since 2016 to maintain an advanced pebble functionality in the absence of pebble technology corp

01:16:10.440 --> 01:16:18.120
And does so through their rebel web services Rebels will murphy stated that these developments are massive for rebel and will accelerate our efforts to produce new hardware

01:16:18.440 --> 01:16:23.240
Rebel has also announced they're going to become a non-profit organization and allow the community to take ownership of the project

01:16:23.480 --> 01:16:27.880
Check out rebel.io. That's rebel.r e b b l e

01:16:28.440 --> 01:16:35.400
Dot i o for more information. Wow. I didn't realize kind of how how deep this went. No, this is this is so cool

01:16:35.400 --> 01:16:41.560
I actually had a call with eric Last week where he was just kind of talking about

01:16:42.280 --> 01:16:46.040
Um, you know potential ways to work together and stuff like that and I was like look

01:16:46.040 --> 01:16:49.560
What it really just boils down to for me is i'm stoked

01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:56.440
Sick so like as soon as you guys have got some new hardware i'm like i'm so in i'm i'm so ready. Yeah, yeah

01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:58.920
Super exciting

01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:03.640
Fine you can talk about your ai somewhere. Let's go talk about your ai

01:17:04.200 --> 01:17:10.760
We can poison ai in even more ways now Several methods of poisoning ai models have been circulating for a while now

01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:15.480
While none of them are 100 effective at tricking computers and have trade-offs

01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:20.680
They have been successful at making scraping data more expensive and more difficult for these companies

01:17:21.080 --> 01:17:27.880
With the aim of reducing ai's long-term feasibility and all four are available for you to use now

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youtuber fami Often written with a four instead of the a has made a video demonstrating how to use the dot

01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:43.640
ass Subtitle format or dot. We have to believe that like I don't know. I mean, it's technically dot ass

01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:50.440
Yeah, so dot ass. It just is what it is. I'm not I'm not swearing. I'm just saying what it is. Yeah dot ass dot ass

01:17:52.520 --> 01:18:00.200
Yeah Anyways, uh, she demonstrates how you can use the dot ass subtitle format to combat trawlers or crawlers from stealing content

01:18:00.440 --> 01:18:07.720
By adding junk caption data that should only affect ai nice a professor at the university of chicago and his students have created tools

01:18:08.280 --> 01:18:11.400
Glaze and nightshade these are again these these ones aren't new

01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:16.680
That scramble how ai interprets photos slash art with minimal visible changes to the human eye

01:18:17.080 --> 01:18:21.880
And an anonymous dev angry that metas crawler ignored their website's policy and hit their website

01:18:23.240 --> 01:18:26.200
30 million times struck back with malware

01:18:27.080 --> 01:18:34.920
nup n fees It's a tar pitting tool that traps ai in an infinite maze of static files with no exit links, which is pretty sick

01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:41.560
And fees some garbage data Discussion question. Can you think of any better file type other than dot ass?

01:18:42.200 --> 01:18:46.040
Um, and I think no, no, I don't think I can't be completely honest

01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:55.080
Uh, extremely well well thought of um Do these tools give you hope in the fight against the ai takeover of creative ventures and possibly humanity itself? Nope

01:18:55.720 --> 01:19:00.360
Uh, nope, but it's fun. It's interesting. Yeah, it's great. I mean and if you want to protect your stuff do it

01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:04.680
Resistance is cool. Even if it's futile. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah do it

01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:09.960
yeah The models have already been trained and open sourced and put out there

01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:14.440
It's already been done. Uh, but again, really if you do want to protect your stuff

01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:18.760
If you are a particular artist, I think and you have a particular style

01:19:19.320 --> 01:19:22.680
Um, I think poisoning all your stuff could be a really good idea

01:19:23.160 --> 01:19:30.280
Um, because then you could keep your style from being trained on very effectively or you could resist your style from being trained on very effectively

01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.960
Um, and I think that's the main use for this stuff is like individual

01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:40.040
Uh stylistic Defense, I don't think it's going to stop, you know

01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:45.960
Um, the wave from happening, but you might be able to resist your specific flavor

01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:52.520
So in other cool news. Yeah steam os expands beyond the steam deck. Check out family's content. She's cool

01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:56.440
In the lead up to the Lenovo Legion go s launch

01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:59.800
Valve will be improving compatibility with other

01:20:00.120 --> 01:20:05.160
Handhelds and we'll be shipping a beta of steam os which should improve the experience on other handholds

01:20:05.480 --> 01:20:08.680
Users can download and test this for themselves. Of course

01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:13.320
We will continue adding support and improving the experience with future releases. I

01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:19.080
am Super bullish on steam os. I freaking love steam os. I can't wait to use it as

01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:23.480
a Oh, well, I was going to say desktop operating system, but that's not actually the truth

01:20:23.480 --> 01:20:28.520
What I want to use it for is a living room operating system. Bring back the steam machine. Yeah, dude

01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:32.440
I'm stoked like dude. I have a I have a Windows machine in my family room

01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:37.000
Which you probably don't know because you've probably never seen me turn it on because it's annoying

01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:44.520
Because it runs Windows, but is configured to just launch steam in big picture mode every time it turns on except that

01:20:45.320 --> 01:20:52.440
Because I only use it very infrequently Whenever I turn it on there's been some stupid Windows up there wants me to go through the Windows setup wizard again

01:20:52.440 --> 01:20:57.160
I'm like, I don't have a keyboard connected to this. I don't want this. I wanted to just work

01:20:58.040 --> 01:21:02.440
I know I don't want to use edge Not now

01:21:02.440 --> 01:21:05.560
microsoft Are you sure?

01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:08.760
Yeah, I'm sure are you sure. I'm really sure not now

01:21:09.480 --> 01:21:14.360
I want to just use my software And not yours

01:21:16.360 --> 01:21:22.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm dude. I'm I'm so excited. I'm so excited more steam os

01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:26.040
Yeah, I agree Yeah, what else we got

01:21:26.120 --> 01:21:29.240
Sony removes psn requirements on four pc games

01:21:29.320 --> 01:21:35.560
Sony has removed the mandatory playstation account requirement from four single player pc games spider-man 2 last of us part 2 god of war

01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:41.080
Ragnarok horizon zero don remastered. Are there any original ip's anymore? These are literally all sequels, but go ahead carry on

01:21:42.040 --> 01:21:50.040
This is too incentive. Oh, sorry. No to incentivize people to still sign in there will be content unlocks when you connect to your account

01:21:50.040 --> 01:21:56.760
Okay, I actually you know what? Yeah, if you if you need horse armor that badly then go ahead link your account

01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:00.200
And if you just can't be arsed then hey you have that option now that is sweet

01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:05.000
That is a good way to do it. I don't mind them doing some amount of incentive like you know

01:22:05.320 --> 01:22:11.160
It is what it is This comes nearly after a year of the backlash around the post launch psn requirement for hell divers too

01:22:11.480 --> 01:22:19.000
Locking people in territories not served by psn This is the entire reason why this matters out of the game that they have already paid for to be clear

01:22:19.160 --> 01:22:22.680
There are regions in the world whole countries that cannot get

01:22:23.240 --> 01:22:31.160
PSN, but we're able to buy these games So it literally banned them from playing their own game that they owned or potentially banned them from buying it at all in the

01:22:31.160 --> 01:22:34.120
Future, which is nuts. So that's that's going away, which is good

01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:41.720
Also force horizon 5 is coming to ps5 this spring. How did I miss this? Are you kidding me? Really is halo next question mark

01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.760
I know a lot of people have been saying that they think starfield is coming soon

01:22:45.400 --> 01:22:52.120
Who cares no one cares about that one Okay, cool, but but it's an xbox exclusive title forza on playstation

01:22:52.200 --> 01:22:56.120
That's pretty wild because it was always Gran Turismo versus forza. Well, yeah, yeah

01:22:56.920 --> 01:23:00.360
What? It's weird announced today. Apparently, yeah

01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:06.200
Whoa That's wild. Sorry. I'm still I'm still reeling from this one. That's

01:23:08.440 --> 01:23:16.600
That was a historic battle for decades I think is this the last generation of xbox like haven't they said they're working on next gen hardware

01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:22.600
What's the point? Sorry someone in full point chat said starfield was fantastic until dot dot dot the event and by that

01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:28.200
I think they mean the launch date. Yeah, I'm not I'm not really sure what it could really mean other than that

01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:33.960
Yeah, um loading zone enjoyer

01:23:38.200 --> 01:23:41.880
Other annoying AI annoying news. I'm gonna do another fun thing. Cool

01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:46.440
We played wandshow on our school's jumbo tron and sound system

01:23:47.160 --> 01:23:50.920
How cool is this? Whoa

01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:55.960
Yeah, right That's so sick. This is so cool

01:23:58.200 --> 01:24:07.400
Ridiculously geeky Like what anyway cool. That's amazing. I love stuff like that. That is so cool

01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:10.680
That's like I I think one of the reasons why I love stuff like that is because

01:24:11.080 --> 01:24:16.680
Absolutely That is the type of thing that I would want to do if I was in if I was that person. Oh, yeah, that's what I do

01:24:17.080 --> 01:24:23.160
And the next thing I do is put crisis on it. Let's play something fun on the jumbo tron for whatever reason. Yeah, let's get something silly up there

01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:28.600
That's sick. I love it. I love it. Nice screen. Good looking. Yeah, actually looks pretty good

01:24:29.080 --> 01:24:33.880
That's a nice facility. Yeah, man school sports in the u.s. Is one of those things that

01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:40.680
Growing up in canada where the biggest sport at my high school was definitely rugby and

01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:45.880
About four people cared other than the players

01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:52.520
Like there'd be the school announcements on monday or whatever and the rugby team had a result against uh

01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:57.000
MRSS and no one responds and literally no one is even listening like

01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:01.560
Nobody cared. No one really goes to the sport unless they have like a significant other playing

01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:06.440
And even then it's like even then it's like dude. I don't know. It's raining like

01:25:07.320 --> 01:25:09.800
Tell me about it after like dude. No one

01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:15.640
No one cared and so I made it all the way to adulthood having no idea that like

01:25:16.360 --> 01:25:24.520
High school level sports are televised in the u.s. Dude, I went to with my with my grandpa who used to live in arizona

01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:27.560
we went to a university of arizona football game and

01:25:28.440 --> 01:25:33.240
It was genuinely deeply difficult for me to comprehend that this was not an nfl game

01:25:35.320 --> 01:25:38.920
It was a massive stadium

01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:44.360
The stands were full There was people like with body paint that spelled things

01:25:44.600 --> 01:25:50.040
They had a marching band like a massive one that came out during they had a whole crazy halftime show

01:25:51.160 --> 01:25:56.920
All this stuff. Here's my high school This is the field that they play rugby on

01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:02.040
Where's your jumbo tron now? Yeah, where's even some bleachers?

01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:09.400
Yeah, definitely not existence. They literally do not even have a place for spectators

01:26:10.040 --> 01:26:12.040
Because they know nobody's gonna watch

01:26:16.120 --> 01:26:20.360
We didn't even we had tennis courts. We did not have a tennis team. Oh, is this pickleball?

01:26:20.360 --> 01:26:25.240
Is this someone in full-play chat right? Rye saw in full-play chat said the biggest university stadiums in the u.s.

01:26:25.240 --> 01:26:31.880
Are almost twice as big as the university of arizona stadium that place was enormous. It's like hard to

01:26:32.440 --> 01:26:39.560
Man, this is I don't know. I don't know. I understand a lot more people live down there, but like dang that's that's crazy

01:26:40.040 --> 01:26:46.920
Um Webb says I've heard college is bigger too. That's true. Absolutely. Dude college sports in the states is

01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:55.480
As big if not bigger than I would say professional sports is here like it's it's a whole thing, man

01:26:56.280 --> 01:27:00.840
and Oh man, yeah

01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:05.240
Here's my high school You can barely even tell where the fields are

01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:10.040
Yeah No, it's green. There's muscle. It is green and there happens to be like

01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:14.840
You could put a line between the fields if you were kind of feeling like it that day

01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:21.000
Our track is just like the dirt stuff that's around them. You guys had natural track. That was pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah

01:27:21.160 --> 01:27:27.160
Ours is also a square. This has been improved since I was there for sure too though. That's worth that's worth noting

01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:32.040
Um, yeah, sorry. I can put this back up. It was quite not like this when I was there

01:27:32.200 --> 01:27:39.960
It looks like uh, mine was not Yeah, this this wasn't ours. By the way, this belonged to the elementary school who were also nobody watched anybody play

01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:45.320
Um, and it's not just that like it's not just like oh well like Linus's school sucked

01:27:46.040 --> 01:27:49.800
um I mean it probably has fewer

01:27:50.120 --> 01:27:57.000
You know stars than the other one, but like yeah, no, here's the other one This was like the school where people cared about the sports a lot when I was growing up

01:27:57.160 --> 01:28:00.440
They had one little stands area. Yeah, that's it. That's all they got

01:28:00.440 --> 01:28:04.200
But the fact that they had like an actual track was huge

01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:09.640
That was a big deal. Yeah, here let's go. Here we go

01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:19.160
Thomas Haney Thomas Haney school. Uh, yeah, they don't even have a track. Yeah, they do have a baseball diamond. That's crazy. So that's something

01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:24.200
Uh, I guarantee you they never play baseball there. It's probably like just for california kickball

01:28:24.200 --> 01:28:27.960
Oh, no, no, they've got actual they've got what appear to be kind of dugouts and they do

01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:32.600
Oh, they you know what this may actually be used. They've got they've got stands and everything. I didn't go there

01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:36.680
So I didn't I don't know how big I don't know how big a baseball was at this school

01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:41.720
Brookswood secondary if I remember correctly Brookswood secondary did not have I can tell you this looks like a problem

01:28:44.120 --> 01:28:47.560
Like especially given that right-handed hitters are going to pull this way

01:28:48.040 --> 01:28:50.360
Maybe they're maybe they just know it'll be fine

01:28:51.400 --> 01:28:54.840
Dyslexic stoner 240 asked what is california kickball?

01:28:55.640 --> 01:29:01.560
It's pretty much baseball But with like a giant rubber ball and you just roll it. So it's like

01:29:02.440 --> 01:29:08.520
Especially when you're young kids And you you don't have the hand-eye coordination to hit a baseball or a softball

01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:11.320
It's so that you can start to learn the rules of baseball

01:29:11.880 --> 01:29:18.360
But you just like you just you just kick it. Yeah, you just like roll. It's actually decently fun when you're like elementary school

01:29:18.360 --> 01:29:23.480
Yeah, yeah, until you know, everyone can just freaking boot it

01:29:24.120 --> 01:29:28.760
It's pretty fun. People are saying that's just kickball up here. I remember it being called california kickball

01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:31.880
Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know. Maybe there was a difference. I have no idea

01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:35.880
Apparently, it's just called kid. What makes it california. I don't know. That's just what we called it

01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:40.120
What do you what do you want from me? All right, google? This is like a royale with cheese thing or you know

01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:42.600
French drawers are just called doors in france

01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:46.920
Thanks for that Dan

01:29:48.840 --> 01:29:55.720
Is there a difference I don't know while kickball and california kickball are often used interchangeably

01:29:55.720 --> 01:30:01.320
The main distinction is that california kickball is essentially just a regional term for the game of kickball

01:30:02.280 --> 01:30:05.960
Particularly popularized in the california area and I guess bc

01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:12.440
Often applying a slightly more relaxed or casual approach to the game's rules compared to the more structured kickball leagues elsewhere

01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:15.560
Oh, interesting. So this is kind of like a ping-pong table tennis thing

01:30:16.200 --> 01:30:22.440
where technically I believe the the differences in the game are like so

01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:27.320
minor that only You know someone at a competitive level would care

01:30:27.640 --> 01:30:30.280
Uh, but functionally speaking they're like kind of the same thing

01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:34.760
Oh, wait the the stadium manager of that football field is in football

01:30:37.400 --> 01:30:41.160
That's pretty sick. Yeah, so they are essentially the same game

01:30:41.480 --> 01:30:45.080
The difference is one of perception table tennis is an olympic sport

01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:48.600
and respected while ping pong is

01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:54.760
A hobby or recreational activity. Yeah, so california kickball is the whatever version

01:30:54.840 --> 01:30:58.920
Yeah, and and like okay badminton has something similar if somebody calls it a birdie

01:30:59.240 --> 01:31:04.760
You know that they're just like a wreck like they play in the backyard or whatever. They don't actually play badminton. They just like

01:31:06.040 --> 01:31:11.000
Whereas if they call it a shuttle, then you know that they actually like know the sport and care and like play

01:31:12.360 --> 01:31:15.960
I feel like those types of things exist like

01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:19.320
For practically everything. Yeah, sure. It's just like are you are it's so

01:31:20.040 --> 01:31:23.880
Are you in it or are you just an enjoy healthy casual? Yeah. Yeah

01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:32.440
Yeah, it's fair like it's fair. I'm looking around. I I can't think of um, I know of one school

01:31:33.320 --> 01:31:39.400
Sort of around here two I know of two schools that have like fields where you could really watch people play

01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:46.600
But I think it's mostly because those fields happen to be there and they're more community fields than really the schools fields

01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:49.160
But the school is right next to it. So they're like, ah, we might as well use it too

01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:52.760
To answer your question in Floatplane chat star cat one

01:31:53.400 --> 01:32:00.360
cock The word that comes after shuttle they asked shuttle what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah cock

01:32:01.240 --> 01:32:03.240
Yeah

01:32:04.840 --> 01:32:10.600
All right, what do you guys want to talk about next maybe the word that comes after shuttle, uh, no, uh

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All right, we're supposed to do three merge messages now go ahead hit me Dan

01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:55.000
Sure thing. Let me just get to the place where they are. Hi l2d1

01:35:55.400 --> 01:36:01.720
I'm not a morning person. So I have a pretty elaborate morning ritual. Can you walk me through your typical morning?

01:36:02.680 --> 01:36:07.640
Oh, man, okay sure So I am also

01:36:07.960 --> 01:36:10.440
Not a morning person. I do not sleep well

01:36:11.160 --> 01:36:15.320
But my kids need to get to school So most mornings, um

01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:19.320
We either teamwork getting lunches ready or

01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:24.440
More often lately because Yvonne is a saint and she's been coming into the office less lately

01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:31.800
She'll do the lunches and get the kids out the door and then I will drive them. So I get to get up like

01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:37.160
20 minutes later, which is pretty nice. That's pretty good. Yep. That's not nothing. Um

01:36:39.160 --> 01:36:45.240
I Usually don't eat breakfast. I know I really really really really really really should

01:36:46.120 --> 01:36:48.840
Uh, what else? I'm no longer a morning shower

01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:51.960
I'm a I'm a late night bathroom

01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:59.800
um I haven't been able to give up the morning shower despite also extremely not being a morning person because I just I just

01:36:59.880 --> 01:37:04.040
Swear so much at night. I can't Really even with your hate sleep

01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:09.720
Yeah, it still happens What I can't keep the entirety of me. I'm a I'm a big boy

01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:15.000
Only some of me can touch the bed, man some of it's up

01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:17.400
I'll be cooking on I'm like a

01:37:18.360 --> 01:37:24.200
Like a not properly flipped steak I'll be cooking on one side and cold on the other and I'll have to like

01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:29.880
Roll over enough and if I'm not if I don't actively roll over enough while sleeping, I'll wake up and I will be like

01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:36.680
Hot on one side and cool on the other I think we should do a cooled blanket video or something because does that exist?

01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:39.320
Can you get a cool to blanket blanket? I don't think so

01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:45.720
Wait, I think the chance that you get a leak out of a blanket would be like No, I think you can get ones that like blow air through it

01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:50.120
But the problem is that there's no way Emma would want that so it would have to be just the one side

01:37:50.360 --> 01:37:54.360
Yeah, so we have to do like you know, you can set up a curve like a sleeping curve

01:37:55.320 --> 01:37:58.120
Where it changes the temperature over the night. Yeah, we're not doing that

01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:02.360
No, no, no, I'm not um, and you're you're supposed to like raise it at certain points and stuff

01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:06.440
Mine is literally just cranked at the absolute bottom

01:38:07.400 --> 01:38:15.400
and I That's that's the best I can do. Okay, so I'm not promising anything, but I will I will uh

01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:19.720
If it's gonna leak all over my everywhere, I don't know if I uh, well look I

01:38:20.440 --> 01:38:24.200
I take no responsibility for any of that. I don't know. I don't even know what you're talking about

01:38:24.200 --> 01:38:28.680
But what I'll say is Dan if you could fire over to um,

01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:32.680
Vance to add to the next writers meeting How heavy is it gonna be?

01:38:33.160 --> 01:38:36.360
Luke Okay

01:38:36.360 --> 01:38:42.200
Do you look a gift horse in the mouth? If it's not really a gift maybe what am I telling Vance?

01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:49.160
Uh, we're gonna try and figure out a water cooled blanket for Luke. I think that's uh, I think it's the right thing to do

01:38:49.800 --> 01:38:52.680
I think water cooled blanket for Luke is the right thing to do

01:38:53.080 --> 01:38:57.720
So it just feels right. I don't have to take morning shower. It feels right. Yeah, it feels right

01:38:58.120 --> 01:39:02.600
I bet what we could even do is we could probably modify your eight sleep

01:39:03.320 --> 01:39:06.680
So that we um, so that we branch off

01:39:07.400 --> 01:39:12.360
Of the mattress side of it and we actually redirect some of the water flow into the top

01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:17.000
layer part Anyway, but we won't get too deep into the plan right now, but I'm

01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:26.120
I think we could do it This is this is off topic, but somebody told me to look up allen high school in texas and my brain actually exploded

01:39:26.280 --> 01:39:28.280
I'm flipping over to your laptop

01:39:29.960 --> 01:39:32.200
This is a cluster of

01:39:33.160 --> 01:39:39.000
Five baseball fields. This looks like four more baseball steals. No, no, that can't be baseball here. Can you zoom in more?

01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:48.280
Oh wait softball So they they delineate that so they have four softball fields five baseball fields one of them being like way big

01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:54.520
They have an aquatic center over there. They have all of these tennis courts here. They have a park

01:39:55.160 --> 01:40:02.120
Uh, they have some some this is all still the school. Yes, they have all these that's not two schools

01:40:02.280 --> 01:40:08.600
Which is baseball more baseball and softball fields are like pro-ass looking baseball fields

01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:13.160
They have whatever how many teams do they have they have eagle stadium

01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:19.080
This is high school the allen eagles

01:40:20.200 --> 01:40:26.760
Allen eagle just sounds like a dude. It doesn't sound like a sports team. It does look at this stadium, dude

01:40:28.120 --> 01:40:34.760
Oh, man, and it has a huge parking lot because I guess people like flip and go to are these something

01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:41.560
What is this? I don't know the edge the edge. I'll say the park. This is still the high school. I don't know what this is

01:40:42.440 --> 01:40:47.640
But it's still a high school might be a competitive rowing. It literally might be this might be water

01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:56.120
What the flip is going on here? That school has a subway like do you mean the restaurant or the at this point? I don't know or the train

01:40:57.080 --> 01:41:01.640
Oh nox allen station Uh, maybe they mean the train

01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:05.720
No, I don't it's like houses and maybe they mean both

01:41:06.520 --> 01:41:09.320
Yeah, maybe water skiing shut up. No way

01:41:10.120 --> 01:41:19.800
Water cooling might This is not uncommon for high schools in texas says boom zero zero my old home town with like 25,000 people is this size

01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:26.520
You got to be kidding me here. Can I why can't I see information on the aquatics the lower freshman center?

01:41:26.760 --> 01:41:33.320
Yes subway restaurant. Okay. That's not even I mean, uh, well, well, okay. He has a timis

01:41:33.480 --> 01:41:38.840
Yeah, but that bc it is a post-secondary institution true. Why is this panel off the screen? What happened?

01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:43.000
I don't know Anyway, okay. I think we get the point

01:41:43.560 --> 01:41:47.000
wild absolutely wild

01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:49.960
I zoom the browser. Oh, I totally did okay

01:41:51.800 --> 01:42:01.640
proton mail Politically neutral and privacy-first encrypted email service proton mail has been under fire for both posting and seeming pro g.o.p

01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:09.720
Biased and being not so private They've recently handed over a user's information to french legal authorities and admitted that they would hand over any info

01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:13.160
They have if prompted by authorities to comply with swiss law

01:42:13.880 --> 01:42:17.880
This includes email subjects headers senders recipients times, but

01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:21.880
Notably not the body of the emails themselves

01:42:22.600 --> 01:42:27.160
They have also been under fire for posting praise for certain aspects of the us republican party

01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:33.960
The original tweet from the ceo said 10 years ago republicans were the party of big business and dems stood for the little guys

01:42:34.120 --> 01:42:42.440
But today the tables have completely turned Uh, the official comment or the original comment from the official proton reddit account said until corporate dems are thrown out

01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:46.840
The reality is that republicans remain more likely to tackle big tech abuses

01:42:47.640 --> 01:42:54.200
From the damage control thread the ceo posted big tech CEOs are tripping over themselves to kiss the ring

01:42:55.000 --> 01:43:00.680
Because the new president represents an unprecedented challenge to their monopolistic dominance

01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:05.800
Um, lina con being out now. I don't I guess we're not commenting on what they're saying

01:43:05.880 --> 01:43:11.160
I don't think yeah. I'm not commenting on what they're saying I'm just throwing this out there and as far as I'm concerned

01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:16.440
As far as I could tell neither the democrats nor the republicans wanted lina conan. So yeah

01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:23.160
I'm pro lina con. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah, she's the only one that actually has my support lina con for prime minister of canada. Thank you

01:43:25.400 --> 01:43:30.040
Uh, good luck everybody We um, we love our southern neighbors

01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:33.480
From a distance though. We're not going to be a state

01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:40.280
Uh, what else we got today other ai annoying news

01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:48.440
Yeah, meta ai now automatically uses your facebook and instagram data and messages to personalize auto responses with no option to opt out

01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:57.960
Let's go microsoft rolls out a new version of microsoft 365 with co-pilot ai features that doesn't work along with a 30 price hike

01:43:58.520 --> 01:44:03.720
10 to 13 months. No 10 dollars to 13 dollars a month for a family plan. Got it

01:44:04.280 --> 01:44:07.800
Um, it's also very hard to opt out of the ai features

01:44:07.800 --> 01:44:12.760
Nice discussion question. Is there a facebook marketplace alternative so I can delete my meta account? Nope

01:44:14.040 --> 01:44:17.960
No, get rekt. I love I love facebook marketplace

01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:25.080
You and Emma dude. I a dude. I love it so much. Look look at my freaking facebook marketplace. This is it's wild

01:44:25.080 --> 01:44:29.560
What even is this? It's a 20 inch encapsulated silicone spine

01:44:30.280 --> 01:44:35.320
I did not think that was why in the thumbnail. Yeah, why do they have that? It looks like a

01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:40.600
Why do they have that a series of things here's here's 30 90s for sale. Oh

01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:45.560
Oh, wow That actually oh, oh that uh

01:44:46.200 --> 01:44:51.720
That hey Dan you need any more 30 90s. This is cad my wallet says no my heart says yes

01:44:52.760 --> 01:44:57.320
I like kind of want to get one. I mean these are mining cards. So who knows how long they'll last but like dude

01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:02.280
What what even is this? What even is this? I don't know. I want it though. Look at it. This is crazy

01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:06.120
What the heck, right? That's crazy. Dude. I

01:45:06.680 --> 01:45:11.960
race car Dude, I go out of my way to just like click the weirdest stuff

01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:19.000
So my facebook marketplace algorithm is freaking wild. What the heck is that? It's freaking wild

01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:24.360
Oh, it's a shirt breaking bad slash dr. Seuss themed shirt. Yeah

01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:29.160
I I love my facebook marketplace, dude. I love it

01:45:29.240 --> 01:45:34.920
Yeah, here's a map of the powell river backcountry. It's 3d from this guy

01:45:35.320 --> 01:45:40.920
Dude, it's from it being from that guy makes me think it's very legit. That's actually super cool

01:45:41.160 --> 01:45:46.440
Look at this thing. It's really cool. Where where else can you you could find a way to use that as a d&d map somehow

01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:52.680
Dude, i'm even starting to like the ads the vs. O is doing music from Final Fantasy. Let's go. Oh sick

01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:56.280
I kind of want to go to that. I can pretty much guarantee you conrad's going to that

01:45:57.240 --> 01:46:04.520
um So, yeah, I don't really like anything else facebook does. I do use what's that messenger

01:46:05.320 --> 01:46:10.280
But I don't really like anything else facebook does but facebook marketplace

01:46:11.320 --> 01:46:15.400
Has its problems it has its problems, but where else am I going to get this?

01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:26.200
About 150 bucks. Yeah, I'm like surprised at how affordable that is. Yeah pipes are made of pvc

01:46:26.200 --> 01:46:32.920
Now you could have your very own tana con right here in the in the attic of your house. Was it tana con? I thought it was like, uh

01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:36.760
Something else. I thought it was tana con

01:46:38.200 --> 01:46:45.560
Oh, no fire. No, no tana con dash con dash con. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. No, this is this is tana con

01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:52.200
I think tana con memed on it. No, that's that's dash con. Oh, is this dash con? Oh, sorry. I thought it was tana con

01:46:53.080 --> 01:47:01.560
Wait dash con hold on Is oh see also tana con. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I think they happened at a similar time. Yeah, okay. My bad. My bad

01:47:02.360 --> 01:47:04.360
My bad

01:47:06.360 --> 01:47:14.680
Cool Ball pit, let's go. Is there anything else we want to talk about? Uh, oh, maybe there's this one. What else what else is there?

01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:19.240
Yeah, what even is this is gov using proprietary usbc cables

01:47:19.720 --> 01:47:27.480
ltt4 member viper 7 reports that gov cameras will only work with the included usbc to c cable

01:47:28.440 --> 01:47:34.600
So rather than replacing a too short cable users are buying extensions to use with the included cables

01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:40.360
um Turns out we don't have any gov cameras on hand to confirm these reports

01:47:40.360 --> 01:47:45.560
So we're asking the when audience instead and I guess the the main reason that I wanted to bring this up is because

01:47:46.280 --> 01:47:53.320
Why does usb have to be usbc specifically have to be such a broken weird freaking stupid standard?

01:47:54.360 --> 01:47:59.000
It doesn't seem that hard and I'm very excited for us to bring our cables to market and do

01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:04.440
Our small part to fix this so they're just going to be clearly labeled with the wattage in the data rate

01:48:05.160 --> 01:48:09.800
and that's it simple Simple they've been a sponsor, right?

01:48:10.120 --> 01:48:13.160
Yeah, that was one of the reasons that I wanted to bring it up. Yeah, so we should try to

01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:19.400
If you have them try to um Elijah says I have a feeling this could be a case of someone using a wrong spec like a power

01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:22.280
Why do the power only cables exist?

01:48:23.400 --> 01:48:26.760
I know it's good to save four cents on your cable or whatever, but uh

01:48:28.200 --> 01:48:33.080
Yeah, I wonder what it is. Um, I suspect it's I suspect that's right. I suspect that's it

01:48:33.320 --> 01:48:36.680
Yeah, if you have one, uh, try to test it plus it on the forum or something. Yeah

01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:44.760
All right, is this it is it went after dark? I think so. Oh wait. No pre went after dark announcement. Yes

01:48:45.480 --> 01:48:53.480
Behind every great chief vision officer eyeball. There are executives that have to wrangle said chief vision officer

01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:58.520
and on Floatplane We've had exec week where you can meet some of them

01:49:01.240 --> 01:49:06.200
James drive nick light and tarantong all sat down for interviews with the one and

01:49:07.400 --> 01:49:13.960
Sammy So we can go over to the exclusives and you can meet the team all three of these guys

01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:20.840
Um, they did a great job. They were good sports and that's our that's our Floatplane exclusive update for the week

01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:26.840
Let's go If meeting execs isn't your cup of tea you can watch my wisdom tooth post surgery

01:49:28.920 --> 01:49:36.120
Drug trip Or you can catch up on why is when late since there is a new episode next week

01:49:36.680 --> 01:49:41.080
A bunch of people saying taryn's interview is really good. Uh, some people asking where mine is

01:49:41.080 --> 01:49:46.040
I had a whole week to myself because i'm a special little flower. I guess so you can check out our special boy

01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:53.000
Yeah, I think I think weeks are generally three videos for Floatplane. So you you get three people

01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:57.640
Got him. All right. What else we got after dark? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah

01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:05.080
Dan you're up. I got to push a couple buttons first. Look at this guy. Wait for it. Wait for it and

01:50:05.800 --> 01:50:12.760
There was some people talking in I don't remember where it was that they missed the actual dark after dark

01:50:12.840 --> 01:50:19.240
I was about to say those words exactly. Yep. I miss it too. I understand the reason how dare you steal my words

01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:24.280
Pretty good. They were my words pretty good at it. You're good at it. How are you? You at it?

01:50:29.240 --> 01:50:35.800
Okay The pre-show viewers will get in and I'm not explaining that

01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:44.680
But yeah, I understand the reasoning and you know, it's probably still the correct reasoning, but I do miss it being dark

01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:49.160
I do Dude, don't don't even

01:50:50.120 --> 01:50:56.040
Look at these guys still unneeding words the regular the regular show cannot handle that

01:50:57.080 --> 01:50:59.240
You are too spicy for the pepper, sir

01:51:02.200 --> 01:51:05.320
Oh All right

01:51:05.320 --> 01:51:08.040
All right, let's get back to the most important part of the show

01:51:08.920 --> 01:51:10.920
Where I get to talk

01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:24.120
Oh, man. All right. Anyways, uh, I'm loving I apologize for what I did

01:51:25.320 --> 01:51:30.760
Um, oh you admit it. You're terrible. Oh, right. I'm loving the look of lost point. I lost point. Yeah

01:51:31.320 --> 01:51:38.760
Personal attack against him mark for Dan. Yep. Yeah, I'm loving the look of the new shirt and that I can wear it at work

01:51:39.160 --> 01:51:45.640
When will we get some pants to go with it? Would love to have a full ldd office appropriate set. Oh the tech pants are back in development

01:51:46.520 --> 01:51:48.520
so, um, they

01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:57.000
The the original prototypes which uh, we went through like five revisions on all of them

01:51:57.720 --> 01:52:00.760
Suffered from a condition that I call vagina pocket

01:52:01.160 --> 01:52:05.720
syndrome We're basically they had zipper pockets because

01:52:06.360 --> 01:52:10.760
Even on like a like a dress your pant we

01:52:10.840 --> 01:52:15.560
I just Even on a dress your pant. We didn't want your stuff to fall out of your pockets

01:52:16.040 --> 01:52:19.480
So we had zippers on the main pockets, but the problem

01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:29.880
The problem was that whenever the zippers were undone Because it was like inside a thing and there was a fold it kind of looked like you had two vaginas on your hips

01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:36.760
so we We like do you have like penis pocket problems when you put your screwdriver in your pocket? No, no

01:52:36.760 --> 01:52:44.360
No, we definitely don't have pockets there for screwdrivers, but if we did it would be a problem. Anyway, uh, the point is that it, um

01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:50.680
We couldn't solve vagina pocket syndrome. So we kind of canceled the tech pants

01:52:51.320 --> 01:52:59.240
Okay, it looked it looked It looked really bad. It wasn't even just like oh Linus you have such a sick mind. Whatever

01:52:59.880 --> 01:53:03.320
Like in the meeting we're all standing there. Oh my god

01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:08.760
I those shorts that I wear all the time have have zipper pockets. Maybe it's like an angle thing or something

01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:15.240
So it's the material. It's the positioning. It's the it's it was everything. Okay. It was it was very difficult. Um

01:53:16.120 --> 01:53:24.920
so anyway They're back and this time they're going to be based on the very successful very well received cargo pants block

01:53:25.160 --> 01:53:33.160
Which is what like a like a like a basic pattern is called. Um, and we did a first round and, um

01:53:34.760 --> 01:53:42.840
It's particularly, um noticeable on me because I have kind of wide childbearing hips, um, especially for a male

01:53:43.240 --> 01:53:47.560
um And even on me, um the vps

01:53:48.200 --> 01:53:55.320
Uh issue it seems to be resolved. So I I am pretty excited. Hopefully I don't know who knows some months

01:53:55.400 --> 01:54:03.080
Hopefully this year. Uh, but our tech pants are going to be the same fit as the cargo pants. Um, very plumber bum resistant

01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:05.960
Um, no vps on the pockets

01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:14.200
um And and and more a more of a professional office look. Yeah, we're we're working on it. We're going to get there

01:54:15.320 --> 01:54:18.680
Okay Yeah

01:54:19.160 --> 01:54:23.240
It's not the answer I was expecting. Howdy lld Linus after watching channel superfund

01:54:23.240 --> 01:54:27.640
Do you still find dbrand stickers in your house when denis was living in your new house? Yes

01:54:28.840 --> 01:54:31.080
There are still stickers in my house. Yes, there are

01:54:31.880 --> 01:54:34.920
Because my kids helped so they put them freaking everywhere

01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:42.760
Yeah, that's a good way to do that. Yeah, there's still a light fixture That's like kind of out of the way and inconvenient to get at that has one on it. Yeah, it's really nice

01:54:43.320 --> 01:54:51.960
It's really good Hey everyone, I work as an urban planner and technology's importance has been rapidly growing in our field

01:54:52.440 --> 01:54:57.800
Do did you see or use any cool technology when you're selecting locations for the badminton center?

01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:02.280
No, um, honestly the the location

01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:06.440
considerations were Most it was mostly just

01:55:06.440 --> 01:55:12.600
Okay, I actually looked this up very recently because I was trying to figure out how long I'd been trying to open

01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:18.920
That thing and from from the day I started to the day we did our soft opening

01:55:18.920 --> 01:55:27.720
It was somewhere between five and six years. I think And the reason it took me so long is because I needed a whole bunch of stars to align. I needed something with ample parking

01:55:28.520 --> 01:55:32.120
So that basically ruled out almost any new building

01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:39.160
I needed something with high ceilings So that ruled out almost anything old and anything other than a warehouse basically

01:55:39.320 --> 01:55:45.800
I needed something zoned for recreational use which ruled out anything other than the city of richmond

01:55:46.120 --> 01:55:49.560
the city of Langley or further east or

01:55:50.120 --> 01:55:54.280
Surrey specifically has a carve out as long as it's less than 50 percent of the building

01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:57.960
Which is why we're able to do it because we have two units out of the four

01:55:58.280 --> 01:56:04.680
But because the electrical mechanical room is in one of our units We're actually like 49 percent of the usable floor space

01:56:05.080 --> 01:56:09.240
So we're able to be an auxiliary use recreational use business there

01:56:11.560 --> 01:56:15.880
I needed it to be somewhat accessible to the badminton community

01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:22.440
So it's a very popular sport in some parts of the world and not a very popular sport in other parts of the world

01:56:22.760 --> 01:56:27.720
So generally speaking like your typical, you know white boy doesn't really play badminton

01:56:28.600 --> 01:56:35.560
But in southeast asia in india in china and taiwan badminton is

01:56:36.440 --> 01:56:43.480
super popular And so I wanted to be close to you know where there's a high density of

01:56:44.040 --> 01:56:51.160
of like A high population density of people who have come from those areas because they're far more likely to to play badminton

01:56:52.040 --> 01:57:01.080
Yeah, it basically just came down to all of that I didn't have a chance to use any technology because it took me like four and a half years to find something that would work

01:57:01.720 --> 01:57:05.960
at all I'm I'm dude. I'm I'm stoked on how it's turned out though

01:57:06.920 --> 01:57:11.720
We had our we had our launch a little while ago of our memberships and stuff and

01:57:12.200 --> 01:57:16.680
It's dude. It's going great. People are freaking loving it

01:57:17.880 --> 01:57:20.440
Like freaking loving it

01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:26.600
Yeah

01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:33.480
Loving it Yeah, it's been really it's been really great. Someone's got a, um

01:57:34.360 --> 01:57:38.120
Assistant. Yeah, yeah, my watch was talking to me. Oh not even talking to you siri

01:57:40.440 --> 01:57:47.480
Rude to interrupt Hi Linus, I notice that you have a really deliberate

01:57:48.040 --> 01:57:51.740
Diction especially when similar sounding are in sequence

01:57:51.740 --> 01:57:55.500
Is this something you have always done or practiced and intentional skill?

01:57:56.340 --> 01:57:59.140
It's from just watching our videos back and

01:57:59.940 --> 01:58:03.820
trying to make them intelligible, especially knowing that people now

01:58:04.420 --> 01:58:08.220
typically it seems watch videos at anywhere from one and a half X to two X.

01:58:08.420 --> 01:58:13.940
So if I mumble my words or I slur them together then what I've noticed is that the

01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:20.340
comprehendibility of what I'm saying goes way down if there aren't clear breaks between my words.

01:58:20.460 --> 01:58:23.860
It's also a habit that doesn't come naturally to me,

01:58:23.860 --> 01:58:28.300
but that I have tried to adopt in order to make me a little bit easier to edit.

01:58:29.180 --> 01:58:31.660
If you have your words go together like this,

01:58:32.340 --> 01:58:35.980
then you can't really pick up mid sentence and do a retake.

01:58:36.260 --> 01:58:39.860
And which is so convenient sometimes because you might have done like a killer job

01:58:39.860 --> 01:58:47.220
with the beginning of what you're saying, but then screw up something really small and you really want that back. Yeah. And if you could keep it somehow, that would be nice.

01:58:48.140 --> 01:58:54.420
Noice. Hey, sorry. You see our Buffalo says you said before the wisdom tooth surgery used to have a lisp too.

01:58:54.420 --> 01:59:00.140
Yeah, I had a pretty pronounced lisp before I got my dental appliances and they reshaped my palate

01:59:00.540 --> 01:59:02.540
and it's kind of been coming back.

01:59:05.900 --> 01:59:12.660
Anyway. Hey, LLD, if you could travel back in time to the 20th century and bring LTT with you,

01:59:12.940 --> 01:59:16.500
what technology would you love to cover or revisit the birth of?

01:59:18.220 --> 01:59:24.420
Oh, I think like long distance communications would be something that I'd be super, super into the wire.

01:59:24.460 --> 01:59:30.380
Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, like switchboard so much.

01:59:30.380 --> 01:59:33.380
Dude, switchboard. You ever seen a switchboard? They're crazy. Freaking wild.

01:59:33.380 --> 01:59:36.660
Absolutely wild. Super cool. Early telecom stuff would have been insane.

01:59:36.660 --> 01:59:43.140
Yeah. Honestly, any early computer things were just wild.

01:59:43.340 --> 01:59:47.700
Yeah, you should go. You should go when you guys are done this watching WAN Show.

01:59:47.900 --> 01:59:49.820
Like imagine, imagine the content.

01:59:51.260 --> 01:59:55.340
I don't know. We're not making videos at that point, but whatever content you're making in that era,

01:59:55.580 --> 02:00:00.500
imagine the content you could make on the first like three and a half inch hard drive.

02:00:01.740 --> 02:00:09.420
Like mind blowing, dude. Go go watch these videos from Smarter Every Day and Linus Tech Tips.

02:00:10.060 --> 02:00:12.500
This memory module.

02:00:14.260 --> 02:00:17.420
Actually, I can't remember if that's the compute module or the memory module.

02:00:17.420 --> 02:00:21.340
The point is the RAM was literally the hand woven.

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So cool. Woven memory is.

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Yeah. OK, this race. It is RAM. It is RAM. You can see it's 14 kilobytes of RAM in my hand there.

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And that's how they programmed it, right? So cool.

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They've wired the program bonkers.

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Hey, DLL, I work in the trading industry as a software developer

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and I loved the Equinix DC video.

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Do you think x86 CPUs are going to be able to scale past 128 cores?

02:00:52.540 --> 02:00:56.140
Excited for the backpack? No, no, they'll never get there.

02:00:58.940 --> 02:01:02.100
Never going to get there. Not happening.

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Yeah, OK, I was like, hold on a second. What are you talking about? I'm kidding.

02:01:06.580 --> 02:01:12.820
I mean, AMD and Intel are clearly clearly still into it, adding more and more cores.

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OK, Knight's Corner.

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Technically x86, but they were they were pretty

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like weak sauce compared to. Oh, yeah, but still.

02:01:25.300 --> 02:01:29.660
Yeah, we're talking cores. I mean, that's that's fair enough.

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I. Knight's Corner was 50 cores per chip.

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When did it come like 20 years ago?

02:01:40.860 --> 02:01:43.980
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 14.

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Yeah. Hey, it's not that far off. Alright, hit me, Dan.

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Ignoring GPUs, the CPU uplifts this generation have been really disappointing.

02:01:52.940 --> 02:01:57.300
How come we've seen 30% plus performance for ARM CPUs

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like the new QC SD8 Elite, but not x86.

02:02:01.740 --> 02:02:08.420
Not so much. That hasn't been true for x86. Well, that and Snapdragon 8 Elite got a node shrink.

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Like TSMC's latest node is so flipping expensive.

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Almost no one's using it. Apple's using it, Qualcomm's using it,

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but NVIDIA didn't use it for their latest GPUs.

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And like that's a lot of the really, really,

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smart ideas have been done to optimize chip design.

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So, it used to be easy or easy to get big performance gains

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because you could just cram more transistors in because you just have a new process node

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that allows you to shrink the freaking transistors. But when you can't do that,

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well, you end up with NVIDIA's RTX 50 series.

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And you can see this increasing cost

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as we go down to more and more recent process nodes.

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And you can see the way that companies like AMD

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are actually optimizing their cost for their products

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by avoiding it whenever possible. Like you look at their latest Ryzen processors.

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They don't use the same node for their IO die

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that they do for the CCDs for the compute dies.

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And the reason for that is that it's so flipping expensive. It's cheaper to use a way larger die of an older node

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than it is to just shrink the IO to using the same node as the compute dies.

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That wasn't a thing 10 years ago. You just shrunk everything

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because it would all kind of come out in the wash. Like, yeah, it'd be more expensive per area or whatever,

02:03:45.600 --> 02:03:49.400
but you'd be able to pack so much more into the area that nothing else made any sense.

02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:55.040
Yeah, so Snapdragon 8 Elite got a die shrink

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and other CPUs have gotten small ones or not that much.

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Also, like x86 CPUs are like so mature.

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Honestly, I'm kind of impressed that we are still getting the performance gains

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for on a single core chip that we are. Like they can't scale clock speed anymore.

02:04:11.560 --> 02:04:16.480
I don't know, Ryzen 9000 is like pretty good, right?

02:04:16.480 --> 02:04:19.840
800X3D? 9800X3D. It's a heck of a chip. It's still a beast.

02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:25.720
It's a heck of a chip. It's questionable whether you need it. I mean, we demonstrated this pretty well in our video

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that if you're not running at 1080p low, it doesn't make much of a difference.

02:04:29.920 --> 02:04:33.640
And in fact, we were so convinced by that

02:04:33.640 --> 02:04:38.320
that we felt, yeah, we're good to go ahead with our 50 series reviews with the 7800X3D

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because we're benchmarking these at 1440p and up. And we just didn't see much of a difference.

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We are planning on eventually moving that over. Yeah, I just mean we didn't like freak out

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and panic upgrade everything without doing our due diligence.

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Cause you guys might remember this, but we did it, we put a ton of work

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into making sure that our parallelized test benches

02:04:57.760 --> 02:05:01.340
are all going to be, are all going to give out results

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that are very close to each other. And we needed over, I think it was over a dozen,

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7800X3Ds in order to nail that down before your time. Yeah, I don't know.

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It was a bunch though.

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Do you have any recommendations on restoring the finish on the black shaft screwdrivers?

02:05:18.960 --> 02:05:22.200
Nope, that's why we only did them for a limited time

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because there's no way to do that.

02:05:25.800 --> 02:05:29.200
And it was exactly these kinds of questions forever

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that I was trying to avoid. The only reason we did it was because people demanded

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to have them in spite of us telling everyone, look, we can't, we're canceling the black shaft

02:05:39.920 --> 02:05:43.680
because we can't guarantee the durability. Some people really like it.

02:05:43.680 --> 02:05:49.840
Yeah, well, this person apparently doesn't. Yep. No, there's no way to restore it.

02:05:49.840 --> 02:05:53.480
Cause like you'd have to, to get it perfect, you'd want to like sandblaster or something

02:05:53.480 --> 02:05:58.000
and you do not want to sandblast that screwdriver. Something's going to end up in the ratchet mechanism.

02:05:58.000 --> 02:06:03.000
You do not want to do that. Sure. Like the plug the, yeah, that's probably what I do.

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The Diplo Mat says, I love my black shaft.

02:06:08.840 --> 02:06:14.560
Very diplomatic. I think if you, if you plug the like socket end,

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you might be able to, someone mentioned in chat. The socket end. Plasti-dip it, but yeah.

02:06:18.360 --> 02:06:21.400
Oh, yeah, it wouldn't look that good.

02:06:21.400 --> 02:06:25.320
No. And the, touching the knurling, like Plasti-dip is just going to come off.

02:06:27.600 --> 02:06:32.120
Had to RMA a headphone four times in two years.

02:06:32.120 --> 02:06:38.320
Each replacement came with a new legal warranty. This time they offer a good will instead of a warranty.

02:06:38.320 --> 02:06:41.440
Should I insist on my warranty or just switch brands?

02:06:41.440 --> 02:06:45.000
This is a, oh man, warranties.

02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:49.240
Why do I even talk about them? Why do I get baited into this stuff?

02:06:49.240 --> 02:06:55.000
Cause I curated this when I'm, maybe I should just, what do you think, Linus?

02:06:56.040 --> 02:07:00.680
Oh no. I think that warranties are written in such a way

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that they basically leave enough room for interpretation

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that they are designed to protect the company rather than the user.

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If you look carefully at any of them, they will have clauses in there

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that say things like at discretion or regular wear and tear

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that will allow them to decide whether they give you warranty service or not.

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So with all of that said, the warranty service that you will get from a company

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functionally comes down to their willingness to stand behind their product.

02:07:33.680 --> 02:07:37.000
But you should still get a warranty. And I would, you know, in this situation,

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I would make it very clear that you're uncomfortable without one, especially considering the failure rate

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that you've experienced thus far. Especially because most headphones really don't fail that much.

02:07:45.160 --> 02:07:49.600
And then if they don't appease you,

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if they don't satisfy you, then yeah, you should switch brands

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because at the end of the day, whatever's written down on the warranty terms

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or whatever is what it is,

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but it changes absolutely nothing about your experience.

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And that's what matters. Their reputation matters.

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Your experience matters. Are they gonna try and weasel out of it?

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That's what matters. And honestly, after something failed that many times,

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I would just be not that impressed anyway.

02:08:22.340 --> 02:08:25.980
Hello, Lan, Lan and Dan. Question for Luke.

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I am a media student and I have pretty much been relying on AI

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for my programming assignments. How do you think development will evolve in regards to AI?

02:08:35.940 --> 02:08:40.340
It's gonna be weird. There's things right now that it's like,

02:08:40.340 --> 02:08:44.340
I've seen a ton of examples of people using, I'm sure Dan's seen this too.

02:08:44.340 --> 02:08:48.580
I've seen a ton of examples of people using the R1 model to do stuff that it's pretty good.

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Yeah, it scores really high on the programming.

02:08:52.100 --> 02:08:55.340
There's a thing Wendell was sharing with me. I wonder if I can find it.

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Where it like, oh man, I don't know the details,

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but it's a genuinely wild Reddit thread

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and they shared like their prompt and it's just anyone could have prompted for this.

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I believe you can also feed it back code as examples

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and it'll work on them. Yeah. Your phone needs to move.

02:09:23.660 --> 02:09:27.780
Yeah, sorry. Oh, is it going through? Yeah, it's pretty bad.

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I need to figure out how to solve this. Adam Z says, the way he talks about warranty

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does North America not have laws mandating the minimum warranty rules and duration.

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The issue is just that it costs so much to pursue it

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that it's very difficult to actually chase anybody on it.

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That's the challenge. It's not that you aren't entitled to it.

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It's just that the cost of making someone deal

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with something is greater than what it would cost to just go buy a new one.

02:09:56.060 --> 02:09:59.100
So it just usually doesn't make sense.

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But some people push it and there are laws in the States about it and stuff. Yeah, of course.

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Get your warranty. Yeah. Honestly, in that situation that was

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merch messaged about, I would ask for like, maybe you should give me a longer warranty

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because your product is sketch.

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Optimize his Laminos. Do you want to come back to it, Luke?

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Give me one second.

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Ugh.

02:10:26.740 --> 02:10:27.580
Can I help you?

02:10:30.340 --> 02:10:33.380
Boom, there it is. He's got this. Am I good to go to your laptop?

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Yeah. There we go. This thread is wild.

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Diving through it is wild. If you scroll, this is a picture, obviously,

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but if you scroll down and find, someone actually linked the actual GitHub repository.

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And on there,

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you can see the code that it wrote and it shows the prompts that they used.

02:10:57.660 --> 02:11:01.500
Oh, what? Is this shorter? I swear, this is shorter.

02:11:01.500 --> 02:11:05.300
Oh, nevermind. Here's the example of the prompt that I used.

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You can see like,

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your task is to convert, given C++, Arminion,

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into this. And okay, it just goes.

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Here's the function that you need to convert.

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It's gonna be way too much for us to go over

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and it's probably not gonna be interesting for the vast majority of the audience. But check out this thread.

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If you're interested in DeepSeek R1

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helping with developer stuff, check out this. Dan's like, yeah.

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It's starting, Luke. You know how we were disenfranchised last year?

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Yeah. I think we're back on the up and up. Yeah, it makes the lamba.cpp,

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if I remember correctly. Roughly 2x speed increase.

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A user even noticed there was something that it did

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that was not necessarily necessary

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and they asked R1 about it.

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And it was like, oh yeah, you're correct. You can remove it by doing these things, blah, blah, blah, blah, like it improved beyond there.

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So it's improving and making code more efficient

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and then able to work with someone giving it feedback to do stuff.

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Yeah, one of the top comments, self-improvement achieved.

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Yeah, there's a comment here saying there's a non-zero chance that something like

02:12:26.460 --> 02:12:30.140
O3 Pro is already influencing code optimizations inside OpenAI.

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First mover advantage could be strong here as improvements compound and are magnified even further

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by possibly implementing R1 optimizations.

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Essentially what they're talking about here is if you have the most powerful model

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at a certain point, you can use the most powerful model

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to continually self-improve faster than other people can,

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especially if you don't release the most powerful model publicly the second you make it every time.

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This is a similar concept to like ASIC coin miners.

02:12:57.500 --> 02:13:00.740
Yeah, I was about to say this is basically ant miners.

02:13:00.740 --> 02:13:04.420
Yep, it's ASIC coin miners mining on their own machines

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before they release it to the public halfway through the next development cycle

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in order to kind of always stay on top. It's a really interesting conversation.

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Bitmain, that's the company. And yeah, it's totally a thing.

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All right. If you work for us and you're hearing this

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and you're worried, don't be. We have roughly 47,000 years worth of work to do.

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So if this accelerates you many times,

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which I don't think we're there yet, but if it does, sweet.

02:13:38.020 --> 02:13:42.260
There's more tasks, don't worry about it. It begins.

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All right, this year's gonna be spicy.

02:13:45.460 --> 02:13:48.500
Hey, Linus, I recently wrecked my car. Oh, bummer.

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A 2003 Camry, and I'm painting a new hood for it.

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Any problems just using a rattle can for a quick and dirty paint job?

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Any tips you'd suggest? First of all, I do not condone graffiti.

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You should not paint your hood.

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Ding. Second of all, the most important thing is to clean it.

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Just make sure that the car is really clean. So soap and water, rinse really, really well.

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And then, yeah, realistically, if all you wanna do is prevent it from rusting,

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just make sure you prime first or use a paint primer combination.

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Like this is an older car. It sounds like you don't wanna put a lot of money into it,

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so yeah, no, it'll work.

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Make sure you coat everything, right? Cause if there's any gaps, then moisture will start

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to rust it and once rust gets under the paint, then you have to understand the whole thing

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and then you do the whole thing again. That's about it.

02:14:45.360 --> 02:14:48.520
And someone closely familiar with people are expensive.

02:14:48.520 --> 02:14:52.720
I was laid off this week. What are your thoughts on companies that struggle

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due to the huge amount of misinformation perpetuated over and over?

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Oh, I have lots of thoughts about that.

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I'd like to apologize for Luke for two for two for tonight.

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I'm not answering this one. Go for it, Luke, you're up.

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Asia, Africa, Australia.

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North America. What? Antarctica.

02:15:20.000 --> 02:15:23.360
What? You're up. Oh.

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You wanna ding him again? There we go, good, good, good, good, good.

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I don't know, I mean, yeah, it's really tough. We, in a lot of ways, people have been talking about this

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for a while, we're in like a semi-post-truth scenario

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when everyone around basically has the same ability

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to voice things that has a lot of benefits.

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And is cool, but that means that every single person,

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I'm not even talking about voting, every single person's form of communication

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is taken at a very similar authority level,

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which is kind of questionable in a few different ways.

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And one person could create a huge range of accounts

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or run a LLM-backed bought farm

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to communicate various things that they want. We see this from nation states, don't kid yourself,

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it's also happening on a personal level. A crafty high school kid with a laptop could figure it out.

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This is not highly sophisticated at this point.

02:16:25.760 --> 02:16:31.280
Yeah, like it's, this is a thing and it's happening. You go around, it's public knowledge,

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I'm not exactly a fan of Twitter or X and in any of its iterations,

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it has nothing to do with its current ownership.

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You go around it lately though, it's a ghost town, dude.

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Like I will look at a tweet that has a lot

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or whatever they're called now, that has a lot of interactions on it.

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And you look at the, like it has all the likes, retweets, comments, et cetera.

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I have seen a couple where I like, actually was just stunned for a while

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and then like shared it with someone else and was like, look at this. Cause there's like 40 responses

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and I pretty much guarantee none of them are real.

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Wow, like the whole, what is it called again?

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Like a dead internet theory or whatever. Dead internet, yeah.

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Yeah, like it's obviously not true. There's an incredible amount of people that are chronically online,

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but there is also just a mind blowing amount

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of fake content on the internet these days. Fake people, fake comments, fake replies,

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fake content, the whole thing. Big problem is, I actually mentioned this on the pre-show,

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the human capacity or now augmented

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by the machine capacity for imagination

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is much, much, much greater

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than responsible, informed, diligent people's capacity

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for finding, formulating,

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and presenting arguments against bullshit.

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So it feels like a hopeless losing battle.

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Yeah.

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Linus, the other week, you mentioned playing Lords of the Realm 2,

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one of my favorite games from childhood. Have you heard of the new game, Manor Lords?

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I have. I feel it's a spiritual successor to that game.

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I haven't played it yet, but I was, Lord of the Realms just like popped up

02:18:25.640 --> 02:18:31.680
on like cheap games on Steam and I was like, hey, and it has made me want to try Manor Lords even more.

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Is Manor Lords still in early access though? Yes, I was part of the first people to grab it

02:18:36.600 --> 02:18:41.560
as it came out. Yeah, I will, I will, but I haven't yet.

02:18:43.640 --> 02:18:47.360
Very good. Is it good? Do you like it? I liked it.

02:18:47.360 --> 02:18:50.680
Did you play Lords of the Realm 2? I did not. Oh, okay. I think I should.

02:18:50.680 --> 02:18:55.200
It's surprise, it's not very deep, but it is surprisingly still really fun.

02:18:55.200 --> 02:18:58.720
You gotta remember that it is still in early access, so it will change over time.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, honestly. I'm talking to the audience.

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Oh, sure. A lot of people think that early access games are done.

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Oh yeah, they're not. I've been enjoying the heck out of an early access game,

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tape to tape. Dude, it's so good.

02:19:16.200 --> 02:19:19.200
Yeah, it's, it definitely has problems.

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Like right now, breakaways are kind of broken and stuff like that.

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Like it's always got new problems because they're constantly working on it, but it is a ton of fun.

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And I actually have really been enjoying what we did for the last run that we did together,

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where instead of- That's gotten a lot better. Instead of choosing our path

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at some of the like roguelite roster building forks,

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we just flip a coin and then we just play with whatever we get.

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I've done a couple of solo runs recently. The events are a lot more viable now.

02:19:51.160 --> 02:19:54.960
Where I did the same thing

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and dude, the one I did last night was just f***ed

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because I did it for everything, including choosing my superstar, choosing my initial ability.

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So I just had garbage for everything. It was unusable.

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Yeah, that sounds pretty bad. That sounds, I mean, it would be fun to challenge yourself

02:20:13.480 --> 02:20:19.000
to try to win that way, but wow, that's a- I got crushed by the Knights.

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Oh yeah. Just f***ed. I mean, that's a wall already. They rolled over me, it was embarrassing.

02:20:24.160 --> 02:20:29.080
While I say that's a wall already, I really hope they don't nerf the princesses and the knights.

02:20:29.080 --> 02:20:33.640
Yeah, the princesses and the knights are pretty steadily.

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But it is like, I'm happy that that wall is there and not like immediately before the final boss

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or something because the final boss being a wall and the princesses and the knights being a wall

02:20:43.000 --> 02:20:46.000
is like, okay, this is fair. This seems okay.

02:20:46.000 --> 02:20:50.800
Yeah, it's super, super, super fun. I really, really hope that someday they make it

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so that you can properly just like both own copies of the game and play multiplayer.

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But as of right now and theoretically forever,

02:20:59.680 --> 02:21:03.280
you can play with Steam Remote Play. So only one person in your friend group needs to buy the game

02:21:03.280 --> 02:21:06.840
and then everyone else can Steam Remote Play, which is wild. But if you really love it, you should just all buy it.

02:21:06.840 --> 02:21:10.640
Yeah, I'm just saying. Just saying. Just saying. Just saying.

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Just saying. Just saying. Because there's always that like, well, I want to play this new game,

02:21:14.000 --> 02:21:17.320
but now I have to convince my entire friend group. Yeah. And now it's like, no.

02:21:17.320 --> 02:21:19.640
No, you totally don't have to. Yeah.

02:21:21.640 --> 02:21:24.960
I-L-L-D, what is the technology or piece of equipment

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that you loved the idea of, but never reached its potential or was abandoned

02:21:28.600 --> 02:21:31.400
because it didn't catch on? Nia.

02:21:32.400 --> 02:21:35.400
O-C-Z Nia. Really? Yeah, dude.

02:21:35.400 --> 02:21:38.400
Oh, come on. Yeah, dude. Come on.

02:21:38.400 --> 02:21:41.720
Look at this guy. Look at this dude.

02:21:41.720 --> 02:21:45.160
Look at this dude. I know, what a loser. Look at that thing on his head.

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He's going nowhere in life. O-C-Z Nia.

02:21:49.320 --> 02:21:53.080
Neural impulse actuator plus brain mouse demonstration,

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Pong Linus tectaphs. What a title.

02:21:56.640 --> 02:22:00.840
Yeah, well, what a title. It was a different time for SEO.

02:22:00.840 --> 02:22:04.200
Oh, I used to have that keyboard. That keyboard was sick. That keyboard was pretty sick.

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Its predecessor was better, in my opinion. Original G-15 was better.

02:22:07.480 --> 02:22:12.520
Yeah. That's the Gen 2. But yeah, look, he's playing the game with his brain.

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With his brain. It doesn't look like he's using the facial muscle trick either.

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So I think he was actually playing with his brain. But yeah, it was cool.

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I played Call of Duty match with it and ended up positive.

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I used it for shooting and reloading. I looked and moved with my mouse and my keyboard,

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but I used it for shooting and reloading. That was tough.

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I have always been a fan of alternative input methods.

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I've always thought they're cool. And this is one of them, you know?

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What is this? 14 years ago. Brain control. 2010.

02:22:48.440 --> 02:22:51.960
Let's go. I bought this from NCIX.

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I had no idea you had a video on it. Oh, really? Yeah.

02:22:55.480 --> 02:22:58.840
I don't think I knew you made videos at that point. I don't think I'd been making videos

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for very long at that point. That's true. Yeah, you can see it like try to map out your brainwaves

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and then it uses thresholds of these different brainwave activations to create inputs.

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So when I was messing with this back in the day, I was living with my parents' house

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because I was in high school, I think. Yeah. And my parents or my brother or someone

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would come up to the computer desk and talk to me.

02:23:24.120 --> 02:23:27.120
And I'd be trying to play some game or something and I'd look and go to talk to them

02:23:27.120 --> 02:23:31.760
and just everything starts happening because my face is moving

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and it used facial muscles as some of the inputs. And then you're also thinking about your response

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and all this kind of stuff. If you're not focused on the game anymore, so just everything would go nuts.

02:23:42.280 --> 02:23:46.000
It was kind of funny because I would like beg people not to talk to me while I was playing with it

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because everything just gets screwed up.

02:23:51.280 --> 02:23:54.720
Oh yeah, anyways, like proper advancements

02:23:54.720 --> 02:23:57.560
in this technology I think would have been really cool, but anyways.

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Anything from you? Oh, I thought you did a really great job.

02:24:04.320 --> 02:24:09.040
Okay, all right. I have nothing to add. Sounds good. What's up my fellow whaners?

02:24:09.040 --> 02:24:13.520
Blindness, given the option, would you ever replace any of your limbs or organs

02:24:13.520 --> 02:24:16.600
and become a cyborg? I've been legally blind since I was 11

02:24:16.600 --> 02:24:19.200
and have always dreamt of robo eyes.

02:24:21.440 --> 02:24:26.440
Yes, absolutely, but I don't think I would want to

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and still until it was like becoming a problem. I never asked for this.

02:24:30.600 --> 02:24:36.560
Yeah, I think I'm on the same page because like I've known from very young

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that my knees are gonna go probably pretty relatively young.

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So that's one of the reasons that I avoid high impact sports altogether.

02:24:44.080 --> 02:24:47.660
I don't run. So if I'm gonna go out for a jog,

02:24:47.660 --> 02:24:51.100
I've put on rollerblades, like I do not jog.

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I'll bike, I'll rollerblade, I will elliptical,

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I will, I'll go on the stairs,

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stair master, no problem, but I'm not jogging, I'm not running.

02:25:03.080 --> 02:25:06.840
I can imagine some bad winter movements aren't awesome for that.

02:25:06.840 --> 02:25:10.000
I won't play at facilities. I won't play at facilities

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that don't have a Christian floor.

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And I don't even mean just like a vinyl cushion or like a foam or whatever.

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I mean like a proper sprung, like dance floor or like a sprung floor,

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which makes a huge difference in terms of the impact.

02:25:25.760 --> 02:25:30.560
And so I work to keep my knees strong, but I've known from very young

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that it runs thick in my family that my knees are probably gonna fall apart in my 40s.

02:25:35.120 --> 02:25:39.840
So if I had the opportunity to put like way better ones in,

02:25:39.840 --> 02:25:46.200
I wouldn't hesitate for a second, I'd go for it. If they were just like my original ones, but like better.

02:25:46.200 --> 02:25:49.280
And if I could do the same thing for things like vision,

02:25:49.280 --> 02:25:51.720
as long as the risk is low,

02:25:52.600 --> 02:25:56.600
I'd be pretty stoked for it. I don't think I'd want to just jump on it,

02:25:56.600 --> 02:26:00.520
but like similarly there's, you know, I've got some problemos.

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And if they crossed a line, if I'm no longer able to do certain things or whatever,

02:26:06.280 --> 02:26:10.640
yeah, sure, yeah, of course. From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh,

02:26:10.640 --> 02:26:14.360
it disgusted me. What's that a quote from?

02:26:14.360 --> 02:26:19.480
40K. Okay. And there's, so yeah, for sure,

02:26:19.480 --> 02:26:23.120
but there's also variants of it from like everything. Oh, absolutely, yeah.

02:26:23.120 --> 02:26:29.040
I wanted to go into biomedical engineering for a long time to kind of perpetuate the cybernetic things.

02:26:30.040 --> 02:26:35.100
Okay, well, I didn't know it was like quite that far. Genesis8925 asks, would you go full Borg?

02:26:36.120 --> 02:26:39.560
I go full Borg. Yeah, I wouldn't, here's my issue though,

02:26:39.560 --> 02:26:44.920
is I would only want to live forever with everyone that I liked would also live forever.

02:26:44.920 --> 02:26:48.360
And they wouldn't, they wouldn't do that. They'd just be like, no.

02:26:48.360 --> 02:26:51.840
So what I'm going to live forever by myself, that's lame.

02:26:51.840 --> 02:26:55.200
I'd go for it. Do you see a future where they become extremely common

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and then we start offering LTD brand, like replacement parts on LTD store?

02:27:00.240 --> 02:27:05.560
Like you get LTD store brand knees? No. Like the open source and maker community gets behind it?

02:27:05.560 --> 02:27:09.600
I got my new ARM and it's pink and orange and it's so cute.

02:27:09.600 --> 02:27:12.920
Lambo edition. Lambo edition, four arms, baby.

02:27:12.920 --> 02:27:18.240
Maybe the cyberpunk future is not that bad if open source and right to repair people

02:27:18.240 --> 02:27:23.240
are like still. Right to repair your body. That's one of the reasons why I wanted to get into it so bad.

02:27:23.240 --> 02:27:26.960
I'm going to own that. We don't even do food stuffs on our store.

02:27:26.960 --> 02:27:30.680
We don't even sell anything people ingest because of the liability concerns.

02:27:30.680 --> 02:27:33.920
You wouldn't do a leg? We're not going to do body parts. Why not?

02:27:33.920 --> 02:27:38.200
We're not going to do body parts. What do you mean? You don't want people to have trust me pro-warranties

02:27:38.200 --> 02:27:41.960
on their other literal legs? Well, what I literally don't want to do

02:27:41.960 --> 02:27:45.680
is be responsible for someone's broken legs.

02:27:45.680 --> 02:27:50.160
Yeah, but you just replace them. They can just get new ones. You don't have to worry about your legs breaking

02:27:50.160 --> 02:27:56.480
because you just got new ones. That's the whole point of it. My son's legs malfunctioned and he ran off a cliff.

02:27:56.480 --> 02:28:00.440
I would like to warranty my son, please.

02:28:00.440 --> 02:28:05.000
It's going to cost $10,000 for his new back that has to come out of your...

02:28:05.000 --> 02:28:08.200
Luckily, it's the cyberpunk future so you can realistically just replace everything.

02:28:08.200 --> 02:28:13.760
So it's fine. I had to print a new kid. This sucks. I had to print a new kid.

02:28:13.760 --> 02:28:14.600
You owe me $45.

02:28:18.360 --> 02:28:21.320
I'm going to leave you a negative review on our Google Mind Palace.

02:28:26.120 --> 02:28:28.960
Okay, okay. Up next.

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I dream of the future a lot, if you can tell. Hi, Optilinus Prime, Bumblebee Luke and Megatron Dan

02:28:36.840 --> 02:28:40.560
as a product company. I'm interested in your insight on what I assume

02:28:40.560 --> 02:28:43.920
are insane logistics for companies with major annual releases.

02:28:43.920 --> 02:28:48.880
For example, phones or games. I would hate to be responsible for making sure

02:28:48.880 --> 02:28:52.120
that there are enough iPhones on September, the whatever it is.

02:28:52.120 --> 02:28:55.760
Yeah. Like honestly, I had someone... Sounds not that hard if you're NVIDIA.

02:28:55.760 --> 02:28:58.600
I think it was on Reddit. Someone was asking me,

02:29:00.240 --> 02:29:05.080
hey, what's up with you guys shipping your backpacks in waves after you launch?

02:29:05.080 --> 02:29:08.280
And I'm like, I am not Apple.

02:29:09.240 --> 02:29:12.600
This may surprise our regular viewers,

02:29:12.600 --> 02:29:16.480
but in the grand scheme of things, we are a pretty small company.

02:29:18.200 --> 02:29:23.160
So when we launch a new product that we conceivably could sell tens of thousands

02:29:23.160 --> 02:29:27.080
of units of, it is not manageable for our cash flow

02:29:27.080 --> 02:29:32.080
to just make all of it that we could possibly ever need,

02:29:32.080 --> 02:29:36.280
distribute it globally, and then build up

02:29:36.280 --> 02:29:40.600
with our production capacity, build up stock levels such that on launch day,

02:29:40.600 --> 02:29:44.040
everyone who could possibly want one can buy one and get it immediately.

02:29:44.040 --> 02:29:50.640
It's just not viable. And so you look at some of the world's most successful

02:29:50.640 --> 02:29:54.760
companies and what they actually do really well is like, is Apple a technology company?

02:29:54.760 --> 02:29:59.600
Yeah, but they could be the greatest technology company

02:29:59.600 --> 02:30:02.880
in the world and they wouldn't be worth trillions of dollars.

02:30:02.880 --> 02:30:07.160
What they are is a logistics and operations company.

02:30:07.160 --> 02:30:14.520
The fact that they execute what they do with the kind of precision that they do is honestly

02:30:15.040 --> 02:30:20.200
as impressive as what they do technologically, if not more so sometimes.

02:30:20.200 --> 02:30:24.480
Some of the tech stuff they do is really cool. And you see in the tandem OLED iPad, whoa.

02:30:24.480 --> 02:30:29.480
But, but man, the logistics of it is incredible, incredible.

02:30:31.360 --> 02:30:35.200
Like just go to some other country and like walk into an Apple store.

02:30:35.200 --> 02:30:39.560
Be like, think about how hard it is to train any one person

02:30:39.560 --> 02:30:44.920
to do anything. Go to some other country and just be walking

02:30:44.920 --> 02:30:50.440
to an Apple store and you're like, oh, this is an Apple store, but en français.

02:30:51.720 --> 02:30:57.720
How did they, how did they do that? That's incredible. I think it's crazy that like you can get a can of Coke,

02:30:57.720 --> 02:31:01.160
like almost quite literally anywhere in the world. Yeah.

02:31:01.160 --> 02:31:05.600
Like that's actually wild. Like, yeah, it's, it's worthless sugar water.

02:31:06.720 --> 02:31:11.360
So are they a beverage company? No, they have agreements with people to keep it cold.

02:31:11.360 --> 02:31:14.720
They're a sales and logistics company and it's incredible.

02:31:16.800 --> 02:31:22.760
Yeah. Last one I got for you today. Hey, Dan's and those on when Linus,

02:31:22.760 --> 02:31:27.320
I have an ongoing bet that the GTA six will release prior to your painting

02:31:27.320 --> 02:31:29.240
and finishing the bike impossible.

02:31:30.800 --> 02:31:34.200
I will do it. Have you made any progress?

02:31:34.200 --> 02:31:36.400
Yes. I don't have any pictures.

02:31:37.640 --> 02:31:39.400
Oh, hold on. Where's my phone?

02:31:42.920 --> 02:31:46.600
I got it. There's a phone in your back pocket.

02:31:46.600 --> 02:31:51.280
There's a what now? Oh, that's, it doesn't have a sim in it right now.

02:31:53.240 --> 02:31:57.360
My web, let's find out if she's at home. Ben Mitchell said in some parts of Mexico,

02:31:57.360 --> 02:32:00.680
you can only buy Coke, not water, and it's also cheaper.

02:32:01.960 --> 02:32:05.880
I actually knew that. That's absurd. I think I've talked before about how I just wanted to work

02:32:05.880 --> 02:32:07.640
for McDonald's. Hi, lady, are you at home?

02:32:09.400 --> 02:32:12.600
Can I ask you a favor? Very easy.

02:32:16.320 --> 02:32:19.480
Do you mind teaming Dan a couple pictures

02:32:19.480 --> 02:32:21.720
of the bike progress?

02:32:24.680 --> 02:32:27.800
Thanks, lady. Okay, bye.

02:32:28.800 --> 02:32:32.720
Okay, Yvonne is going to team Dan some pictures of bike progress.

02:32:33.600 --> 02:32:38.040
So I will, I will show you guys, I will show you real progress.

02:32:38.040 --> 02:32:42.880
Nice. You will probably not be very impressed because it really does not look like much right now,

02:32:42.880 --> 02:32:45.920
but it's, it's something, it's something.

02:32:50.000 --> 02:32:55.960
Oh, there's a new one. Hello, Lycus, Loonisism, and Daniel.

02:32:55.960 --> 02:33:01.200
Linus, as someone with experience, can you give any advice on how one might perform

02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:04.600
a hostile takeover of the company they work for? Asking for a friend.

02:33:05.600 --> 02:33:10.720
I never took over NCIX. The only thing that I did was I bought

02:33:10.720 --> 02:33:14.160
the intellectual property slash assets

02:33:14.160 --> 02:33:19.200
that were the Linus Tech Tips YouTube channel and linustechtips.com.

02:33:19.840 --> 02:33:23.120
Which at the time was like a barely active blog.

02:33:23.120 --> 02:33:28.120
And then later with some help became the LTT forum.

02:33:29.840 --> 02:33:33.320
So it really, it was me negotiating the purchase

02:33:33.320 --> 02:33:37.840
of an asset, not really orchestrating

02:33:37.840 --> 02:33:45.360
any kind of like company takeover. Now I would love to collect what remains

02:33:45.480 --> 02:33:49.480
of the skeleton of NCIX and, and breathe new life into it.

02:33:49.480 --> 02:33:53.480
That would actually, that would actually be super cool.

02:33:53.480 --> 02:34:00.320
I'd be pretty sick. I think it would be super cool. But up until now, we have not been able to reach

02:34:00.320 --> 02:34:04.320
an agreement that has been mutually agreed upon

02:34:04.320 --> 02:34:07.960
by all parties who would need to be involved in it. So.

02:34:07.960 --> 02:34:13.080
It's interesting because over time, it's value rapidly approaches itself.

02:34:14.080 --> 02:34:16.000
Rapidly approaches zero.

02:34:17.400 --> 02:34:21.840
Yeah. What value would it have to literally anyone other than you right now?

02:34:21.840 --> 02:34:26.840
Very little. I can't think of literally anything.

02:34:26.840 --> 02:34:32.040
Like it's a four letter.com, but it's like a gobbledygook four letter.com like it is.

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Nothing. Also people don't care anymore. Oh dude, the NCIX brand is.

02:34:36.280 --> 02:34:39.920
No, I don't mean the brand. Oh. I don't think people care about four letter domains anymore.

02:34:39.920 --> 02:34:44.080
Oh, interesting. People are typing in domains. People are typing in domains. Yeah. Oh.

02:34:44.080 --> 02:34:47.240
Yeah, you're probably right. It's apps and searches. It's not.

02:34:47.240 --> 02:34:50.480
Yeah. No one cares anymore. I mean, they still cost money.

02:34:50.480 --> 02:34:53.920
Of course. But it's not like it used to be. It used to be prestigious.

02:34:53.920 --> 02:34:57.520
You could camp a domain and literally the value

02:34:57.520 --> 02:35:01.240
of it would be parabolic over time. Yeah.

02:35:01.240 --> 02:35:04.640
Got your picks. X.com though. Yeah. And no one cares.

02:35:04.640 --> 02:35:09.640
Yeah. Which is my point. My silent protest every time I go to that site

02:35:09.640 --> 02:35:14.400
is I type twitter.com. Yeah, sure. Because it's actually not like slower.

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Also, your browser's just going to autocomplete. Yeah. Like I really, the short domain thing,

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like it's still cool and like some old heads will see it

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and be like, oh, sweet. But like almost no one cares. And me says.

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And me in float plain chat says, years ago, I saw people type Facebook login

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instead of Facebook.com into it. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. It doesn't matter anymore. So like your domain is unimportant and doesn't matter now.

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Your brand name got trashed on the way out anyways

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and no one cares. And it's been a long time and everyone's forgotten.

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So like. I haven't forgotten. Yeah.

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I would like to bring back. But again. X.com. Other than you, it doesn't have value to anyone.

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I also don't think anyone else would really have a shot at it.

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Do anything with it. Yeah. What would we do with it?

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I already know, but body parts. Yeah. What would you do with it?

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Stop. So what? Like Linus, it's the new frontier.

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Dan, no one wants leg. Everyone's trying to get rid of leg.

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Ah, but OK. If computer starts getting less interesting.

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There it is. Oh. If computer start getting less interesting,

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you could start reviewing body parts.

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We're not going to use it for reviews. Why review a monitor when you could review a cybernetic eye?

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Yeah, we're going to get over this cake-less thing that's happened.

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Return Linus's cake. Cybernetic cake.

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2024 Linus cake is this year's model is way worse.

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More Linus, less cake. A lot less fun this year. Let's look at motorbike pictures.

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All right, let's look at some of the pictures. Some depleted mass.

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OK, so these are testers.

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The finished color is going to be the one that's

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in the bottom right. So that's the same pink that is in the top left,

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but with the effect layer that's on the top right

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over top of it. OK.

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I feel like I like the top left one most, but the lighting on this is also.

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Yes, it's suspect. It's suspect.

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So here's some primed plastic parts, and as well as my primed wheels.

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One or two of them needs some sanding and maybe a quick

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reattempt at the priming, but they're pretty OK.

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And that is the front.

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Bloody hell. That's the fairing.

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And that is the.

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That's it. That's it. That's all I got. OK.

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Jeez. And I guess I got one more merch message

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and that that's about it. Yo, how do you guys measure input latency?

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I streamed to my stream deck and latency is completely negligible for most games,

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but others I think I barely notice. Can't tell if it's in my head or not.

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Do we have an order? There's actually an overlay for depending

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what streaming thing you're using. There should be an overlay that shows you what your latency is.

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I can promise you it is not negligible,

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but depending on the games you're playing, it can be way less noticeable.

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So tape to tape, for example, everybody remote plays in,

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and it's pretty great. So hold on a second.

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They're talking about in-home streaming, though.

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Yeah, but they asked, how do we measure input latency? And I thought it was interesting. There's an article in the Labs written by Oni with James

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and Antoine doing the informative. And they did ask how we do it.

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And this is how Labs conduct tests on mice. And if you scroll down a little bit,

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they have the latency and sensor test section. This is a very cool article.

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Check it out. Yeah.

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All right. That's mostly it for the show, but there is a quick last thing.

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I did end up watching some of Lewis's video that he uploaded shortly before the WAN Show last week.

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I don't think I made through quite as much of it

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as Dr. Ian Cuttrust did.

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Yeah, he got through 20 minutes before deciding it was, quote, not worth the mental effort.

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What I saw so far seems to be a classic bad faith,

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assume the absolute worst load of bulls***, frankly.

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The main premise for his medical diagnosis of me,

02:39:28.680 --> 02:39:33.120
with a personality disorder, appears to be that I can never admit when I'm wrong.

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But my first interaction with this man

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was to admit that I was wrong in public and cordially invite him to collaborate

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so that we could correct the record in front of 2.2 million

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people. Literally, this is the first interaction we ever

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have where I say, I was wrong.

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Show me the right way to do it so that I can show my viewers.

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There's also a bit in here about how I intentionally texted the wrong number for Steve.

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No, of course, it wasn't intentional. You'd be in a difficult mental state, too, in that situation.

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But, and this is going to just blow up the narrative,

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I'm going to take that feedback and get that mistake removed, and or we'll add the context that, while yes, Steve does

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have the number active, he primaries a different number.

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Anyway, maybe there's an appropriate time and place to address the rest of this stuff,

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but y'all are clearly tired of hearing about it here.

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So we're going to see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

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Bye. That was my cybernetic ARM.

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I liked it. I had to run the wave function.