{"video_id":"fp_1Z4D0UMYi4","title":"FP Exclusive: Linus Reacts to Hot Takes Extras","channel":"FP Exclusives","show":"FP Exclusives","published_at":"2023-03-30T21:12:00.046Z","duration_s":671,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":6.6,"text":"reacts to tech hot takes so that's right folks today I'm gonna be reacting to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":6.6,"end_s":11.6,"text":"some of the absolute worst takes from you guys courtesy of those of you who","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":11.6,"end_s":17.4,"text":"were primary sex characteristic enough to share them on Twitter but not before I","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":17.4,"end_s":22.4,"text":"share you with this segue to our but not before I share you on this segue to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":22.4,"end_s":32.4,"text":"our sponsor no I changed some words you put ballsy I said primary sex","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":32.4,"end_s":41.28,"text":"characteristic I don't know the 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overclocking was good overclocking was","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":662.5,"end_s":668.54,"text":"dog crap on Rocket Lake Rocket Lake was redlined out of the box are you running","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":668.54,"end_s":673.1,"text":"chilled liquid you run liquid nitrogen","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"reacts to tech hot takes so that's right folks today I'm gonna be reacting to some of the absolute worst takes from you guys courtesy of those of you who were primary sex characteristic enough to share them on Twitter but not before I share you with this segue to our but not before I share you on this segue to our sponsor no I changed some words you put ballsy I said primary sex characteristic I don't know the rules Jake man Android Auto drives me crazy okay rolling around in my in-laws Tesla I'm like yeah I need to go somewhere boop boop boop here I'm going man even in my car okay this is a portion right touchscreen crazy unresponsive and it like takes away my ability to type if I'm even moving a little bit my passenger can't even type something in for me thank you nanny Android developers for making this thing less usable so that instead I can use the voice interaction four times while it misunderstands that I'm trying to call my wife that's not less distracting sorry sorry that got went off on a little tangent there yeah discords it's fine yeah yeah the IP the IP resolver tech the the technical issues with Skype were a big part of it the the reason we ultimately stopped using Skype was the reason we ultimately stopped using Skype was nothing to do with the actual program itself but everything to do with vulnerabilities in the protocol if I recall correctly there was this tool called an IP resolver that people could use if they had your Skype username to see the IP that you were at so what would happen oh the reason the reason we ultimately stopped using Skype though was nothing to do with the functionality of the software and everything to do with some vulnerable the reason we stopped using Skype though was nothing to do with the functionality of the software and everything to do with some vulnerabilities and I think it was the protocol basically there were these tools called IP resolvers that assuming that you had someone Skype username you could use to get their IP so whether you were gaming with people you didn't know that well or say hosting a live video podcast if anyone figured out what your user account was they could resolve your IP and DDoS you great and it took them years to fix it years all right all right Ian's elbow the lab will be profitable I mean we're gonna try but if it doesn't happen the reality of it is we've got other ways to extract value even if not money from the laugh yeah that's that's hard to hear motion blur I don't know what to tell you I knew people like this existed because it keeps getting implemented in games but damn it still hurts to read the one justification for motion blur okay is games that run at 30 FPS and you need some way to hide that awful judder as you're panning the camera around that's why it exists it doesn't exist because it looks good you've just been like gas lit like Stockholm syndromeed into thinking it looks good oh people are gonna be coming at me so hard for that one I will never miss Mike for USB you might as well tell me that I'd I would rather have proprietary different connectors for every brand of phone back honestly no honestly yeah at least some of them were decent hot take ten year old computer will work totally fine for day-to-day use you don't need a new one okay hold on a second let's have a look at this 2013 core I mean hold on what would that be like a 40s 4770k what's it what's a 20 2013 core I7 why did I nail it yeah you could still use a 4770k for day-to-day use I don't even think that's a hot take you guys don't even know what hot takes are most of these are either lukewarm takes at best or just dumb a hot take has to be defensible keep the lightning connector it's a lot more interesting to have low-end hardware with limits that you need to work around compared to playing with high-end tech I mean yeah that's you're right personally I don't mind playing with high-end tech I find high end tech pretty interesting I also find squeezing the most out of low-end tech interesting maybe we can agree to half agree low-end tech very interesting but I'm also into high-end tech app store fragmentation is bad on its own but countries will immediately start requiring their own bloatware countries will require it you mean carriers like it and stores to be pre-installed Russia tried that a few years ago and Apple told them to shove it Apple would still be well within their rights to tell them to shove it no one's saying that Apple has to preload these alternate app stores like I this these are just such straw man bad-faith arguments I don't feel like reading this guy's tweets anymore I'm sorry I'm done getting a 7950 x3d and a 4090 for eSports titles wait you are consistent FPS low frame times and 0.1% and 1% lows are game changers for gameplay and it uses less power do it not being demanding this means I know no no no no I know I think this is not serious that's that's not how any of that works yeah oh yeah this guy on his MacBook over here battery life yeah exactly it's pretty nice for a desktop though I have a hard time justifying macOS I don't really get it unless you really like terrible window management or you're like paying for better window management man every time I've done a Mac challenge how pissed off I get when I'm expected to pay six dollars or whatever like yeah it's not even it's a trivial amount of money it's just the principle of the thing I could have this for free on my PC why am I paying for this Darren hard question this isn't even a hot take what's LMG's environmental impact and what are you doing to counteract it are you going carbon neutral and if so when we separate all of our waste you know we're actually pretty diligent about that organic waste recyclables garbage like we actually pay extra so that we can have organic waste taken away separately and composted other than that I mean power consumption sort of is what it is I mean do you want us to turn the lights off Andy hit the lights is that a better video how do I look yeah I don't know what to tell you we're gonna use as much power as we has I kind of want to do like solar panels on the roof but the truth is that here in BC it just doesn't make any sense our power is so cheap because it's all hydroelectric and we get so little Sun that doesn't really make a dent top tier parts from nearly a decade ago are more than good enough for today oh yeah 100% 100% I don't know about on the GPU side depending what kind of games you're playing Windows 11 is actually decent yeah it's fine they got to stop breaking stuff with updates and whatnot but yeah it's fine team speak I'm the best mumble would like a word I was never a team speak boy mumble for the win even if it might be expensive I prefer to get most of my Xbox games and physical and digital kinds what like both physical and digital oh and by the way Nintendo puts older games on a subscription service on the switch to me is just awful I don't really understand your point 1440p is a lot better than 1080p and once you go high refresh rate it makes far far less of a difference the point of diminishing returns past 120 Hertz the returns past 120 Hertz fall way off RGB is overrated if you want your room to be colorful just by a light strip this contradictory RGB is overrated if you want to buy it what are you even talking about ok I mean it's included on basically everything these days anyway I think it's kind of a moot point besides it's not like the light for your room is gonna cost any less yeah no they're cheap you buy RGB like the ones that Dennis got for his extreme tech upgrade those are dirt cheap it's becoming so difficult to damage computer parts these days that dropping them isn't a major concern strong disagree I speak from experience did it really oh that's right I won didn't I it's in the vault nice then the problem is that in order to get a bigger screen with 16 by 9 it gets way wider which means that it's harder for someone small hands to hold so no yeah the taller screens are actually better if you have small hands but you want extra screen real estate Shawn I liked 3d touch it's so much faster than haptic touch that's not even a hot take if there's anyone on the Apple side of things that doesn't miss 3d touch it's because they didn't understand it plain and simple I hate that thing where people just trying to put professionals in this little box what because Apple makes a bunch of commercials with trendy artists all of a sudden that's professional now MSN was amazing like tools that you just so far ahead of their time like the ability to appear offline man when they added a pure offline I was like whoa this is good stuff I love this Rocket Lake was good at launch with good cooling and good power supply in games and overclocked it was the best CPU on the market and easier to tune and get stable and blah blah blah named Rocket Lake and people only reviewed it stock and locked down overclocking was good overclocking was dog crap on Rocket Lake Rocket Lake was redlined out of the box are you running chilled liquid you run liquid nitrogen"}