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Ready, go. There was a disappointing lack of meme-able Mark Zuckerberg moments.

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No sunscreen at all, not a single drop.

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He looked like a normal human almost. Yeah, except like slightly moisture.

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Why did we even watch it at this point? It was actually very interesting though,

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because the keynote was delayed, the MetaConnect keynote.

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Twice. No, once, once, just once.

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But it was very interesting because I've been covering tech news since 2013.

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I've never seen that happen, unless I'm like tripping and it did happen one time, but the like 10 a.m. rolls around.

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All right, we're gonna, it's the big hype event. All the journalists are here.

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Tell us about your stuff. Like, it's 30 minutes, please.

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Yeah, it wasn't a small delay either, it was half an hour.

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It was a sizable delay. Like it's normal for these things to start a couple minutes late, but anyways.

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But the reason they were doing that is because it was actually live,

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which I thought was an interesting choice coming from Meta, where this like,

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this is a fairly, there were some fairly big announcements made at this event.

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You know, we got a look at the Oculus Quest 3.

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That was already announced, but this time they fleshed out the specs and the features.

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Gave us a date. Date price, and which is very interesting

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in the context of like Apple and them announcing the Vision Pro in the summer.

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Welcome to spatial computing. When is it coming?

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I don't know. I know what we're calling it, though.

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They talked about the Quest 3. They talked about AI, which up till now

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has just been kind of open source stuff. They've got Llama out there, and they, you know,

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released their research and other people tinker with it. And now it's gonna be their own standalone thing, Meta AI.

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Complete with celebrities, we'll get to that. And- I'm so ready.

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They also released Gen 2 of their Ray-Ban smart glasses,

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which to me might have been the coolest thing there. These new ones have all those capabilities,

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but you can also live stream from them,

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so it's like a head-mounted camera so you can do stuff while you're streaming to people.

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But the more interesting thing to me is the fact that Meta AI, which is what Meta is calling their-

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AI? Their AI, which is weird because the division

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of the company is also called Meta AI, like the division that works on this stuff,

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and now they've called their product Meta AI.

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Anyways, they released their ChatGBT sort of service.

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It's a chatbot now. It's not just a model. So that chatbot is integrated into the glasses.

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You can look at stuff, and because of the multimodal capabilities, and we'll get into that, you can-

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What's that? It knows what you're looking at, and it can answer questions about it.

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You're looking at a monument, and you're like, what's this thing? You're looking at a sign in another language?

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You're like, what does that say? You're- How many lady Demetresques tall is that building?

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It could answer that because it also has a hook into Bing.

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Yeah, it has real-time information. But first, before we talk about that,

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I do want to talk about the Quest 3 because Meta,

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they've really been pivoting into AI in a big way

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because all of these companies are encroaching on their territory.

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They absorbed Oculus and then deleted the name,

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and then all of a sudden, Apple comes out and is like, guess what?

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We're making VR headsets too. I mean, mixed reality spatial computing.

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So yeah, there was a bunch of writing on this, I guess.

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If they could come out and show that they have a product

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that is a compelling alternative,

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which is funny that I'm even saying that, to the $3,500 headset that Apple is gonna release next year,

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that would be compelling, but I don't know. You said that you wanted to buy the Vision Pro,

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very hard last time. I didn't say that I wanted to buy it.

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I said I could see like a market for it.

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Yeah, and how many pre-orders did you place?

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Like 17.

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I took out a lot of loans. I'm not in a...

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I'm gonna be honest, it's a good thing I'm sitting down because my kneecaps are not working

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if you understand what I'm saying. They're about to not be working because they're coming for you.

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Totally already out. Yeah, but the Quest 3 is cheaper,

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but I'm still disappointed because it's $4.99,

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which is $200 more than the Quest 2 launched for at $2.99,

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and then they bumped it up to $3.99 at some point because they were like, wait a second,

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people are buying these. We can up the price.

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So it's $4.99, $500, one seventh the cost of the Vision Pro,

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but we saw that it can do a lot of the things

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that the Vision Pro can do. You compared the specs, you made a table for us.

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I did, and also I should mention that the Quest 2 was at least as far as I know, it is now $2.99.

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It's back to $2.99. Oh, the Quest... Oh, okay. That's actually good.

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It's $2.99, it's $300.

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I hate saying $2.99, it's $300 or it's $350 for the 256.

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That's what we should say. 256, goodbye version. I'll move in a little bit here.

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Yeah, so, and that's interesting

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because Meta launched the Quest Pro.

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I just envisioned the Starfield text coming up.

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Nobody liked that. You're playing Starfield?

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I just, I think it's funny because like, I think of the follow-up for meme.

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Oh. Which is the same thing. Oh, they had the same thing? Everyone disliked that, yeah.

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Oh, okay. Everyone disliked that.

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I didn't play follow-up for. Probably for the best. Yeah.

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Nobody liked the Quest Pro, so it's interesting to see that Meta kind of took that

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and they were like, hmm, okay, no one wants to buy a $1,500 headset.

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That's crap. Let's go for a $500 headset,

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but they're still doing this, they're still adding this tier structure.

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So like, I think a lot of people, maybe I was dumb to expect this,

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but I expected the Quest 3 to kind of be what the Quest 2 was,

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which is just like a straight update for the original Quest was cheap as well.

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I forget how much, I think it was more expensive. I think it launched for like $4.99 or $3.99, I forget.

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But then the Quest 2 launched and it launched at a cheaper price. And it's like, it's a better product

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and it's still very cheap. I thought the Quest 3 was gonna follow that line.

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Be a better product at a similar price. Yes, but they're clearly,

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okay, we're gonna keep the Quest 2 in circulation. It's still a decent headset

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and now we're gonna have a more premium option in the Quest 3.

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It's an Apple model, ironically, because Apple continues to sell their older phones

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as like the cheaper version. And they keep their lineup kind of continually shifting.

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I mean, I think it's good in this case because there's not a lot of headsets in the space

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and having more budget options, it makes business sense

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in terms of increasing the amount of potential customers you can have.

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But it also just kind of makes sense for people who say don't have the money

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to drop $500 on an Oculus 3, but they still wanna experience a little bit of VR.

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It's kind of nice to be able to dip your toes in the water, have something they can still connect to your PC,

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they can do like passers, so you can play VR games from your computer.

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Yeah. I mean, interestingly, I mean, I'm assuming the Quest 3 can connect to your PC.

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Then you'll be correct.

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Like the Quest 2, but they didn't talk about that at all.

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I think they used to make the Oculus Rift,

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which was a PC-only VR headset.

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And now it seems like, well, we have these other examples,

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like the Valve Index is still around and Big Screen Beyond is a,

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I believe that's a PC headset, right? It's not standalone. Yes, it is, which is weird

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because they market themselves as like, it's the smallest VR headset. And it's like, yes, but you can't move.

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You're just there. You can't move? Well, I mean, in the sense that it's not standalone, right?

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But interesting. Yeah, it doesn't come with any trackers. No, it doesn't come with any trackers,

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it doesn't come with any controllers. Ships in Q3 2023, like right now?

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Yeah, you order it and they customize it for you.

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And here's where it gets stupid and kind of cool. So they do a 3D face scan

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so they can make it to not only your face, but also your interpupillary distance.

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Oh, no adjusting? No adjusting.

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Well, I don't know if it doesn't have adjustment as much as it's dialed in for your specific IPD.

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The thing is you need an iPhone XR or later

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to get the face scan. And what they say in the FAQ is like,

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if you don't have an iPhone, throw one from a friend. And if you don't have a friend, go to the Apple store

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and use one from there because you can use it straight from Safari.

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Okay, so yeah, this is a weird one. It doesn't really fit in easily to your paradigm

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of what do you think a VR headset is. But look at that resolution.

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But it is a good alternative for, there are some people like in the 5% that don't have,

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that aren't fit into normal IPD, that aren't between 58 to 70, whatever the normal.

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The big screen is still there. That's a PC thing, but the Quest 3

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is really moving towards this like mixed reality,

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standalone, no wires, no cables situation.

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And you wear it around your house at all times. You can see all the fun little knickknacks

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in the virtual knickknacks. Yeah, so that was one of the things. Never take it off.

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That was one of the things that they talked about is the fact that you can have these things called Augments.

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Because the Quest 3, I haven't looked at the like specific sensors that it has and whatnot,

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but like you can, it'll do automatic space mapping now

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or I think they call it scene capture, where you just kind of look around slowly in your area

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and it will map everything into the virtual world

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and then you can place virtual objects in physical space

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at that stay there. And the thing is too, is apparently it recognizes

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objects and gets depth too. Cause like there was an earlier leak even before this

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where like they found like clips in the firmware and they looked at a couch, it recognized it as like ending

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and there's being something behind it and also labeled it as couch.

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So like it's pretty, pretty cool. Oh, it's also got like object recognition.

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Yeah, apparently, yeah, at least from those earlier leaks. I mean, obviously, you know, if the Meta AI,

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if it's integrated into the Ray-Ban glasses,

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it's going to be in there, it's going to be in there. That is also one of the selling points

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is that Quest 3 will also have Meta AI. Right, we thought that Facebook account being required

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to log into the Quest was a problem.

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Now you're going to have AI in your head. You're going to have DM Snoop Dogg right there.

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You're going to have international funny man, MrBeast.

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That's for later. That's for later. Yeah, the augments were one of the things

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that I definitely thought were kind of cool about the Quest 3 portion of the presentation.

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Was there anything they stuck out to you? I mean, the thing that really stuck out to me

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was how much they were really seeming to gun for Apple

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through that entire presentation. Like every time they showed like footage of like a computer,

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except when they were talking about Windows 365, it was a Mac, it's like, you're going to work.

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It's like, it just so happens that you're using macOS

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It's like, you can put a big screen in your room. And it's like everything, it was like beat for beat.

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Like this is what the Vision Pro does and we do it for one seventh the price.

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It very much, yeah, there were specific moments that very much called to mind,

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like Apple's Vision Pro announcement. And yeah, there was the big screen one.

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There was the using your Mac desktop window.

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Using your hands as controllers. Oh.

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That was a thing. Well, yeah, Quest 2 has that as well.

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Cause Vision Pro, yeah, Vision Pro is all your hands. Yeah, that was the whole thing.

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I forgot about that. It's very simple. All you got to do is use your hands.

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I don't know who that was supposed to be. It's sort of, I was going to try and do Tim Cook

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and then I came out and I was like, this is not Tim Cook. Our Tim Cook impressions will get more and more sassy

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as the video progresses. But yeah, the demos that they showed really called to mind

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Apple's presentation and it did, honestly, for me,

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that's why I was kind of like, all right, let's look at the specs here because resolution wise,

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I want to know what the overall quality difference. Obviously like Apple is, you know,

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it's their first spatial computing product,

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but I do expect that there's going to be a level of polish

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there that is just not there for any other VR product

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or mixed reality or whatever. I mean, just look at the front glass. It's very polished.

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You can see. Laugh. Straight into it. That was a laugh.

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Laugh at me. That was a laugh. The one of the other comparisons I do want to mention

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that's not in the spec list is something I just thought of now

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is briefly, they talked about in the Vision Pro

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about like how you can use Apple Arcade and you can play games on the Vision Pro.

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And then Meta comes out and they're like, Xbox Game Pass, Cloud Gaming.

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That's okay. I forgot about the Apple Arcade thing because Apple Arcade.

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Is a pile of crap. Have you looked into it at all?

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I forget whether it doesn't have like triple A games, right?

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It just has like apps. Not to say that mobile games are all crap or whatever.

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No, no, no. It has like one. It's got Fantasian. Vision Pro, Apple Arcade, you know, okay,

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that's cool for people who like use Apple Arcade, I guess, but Xbox Cloud Gaming on the Quest 3

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is going to be interesting. It's not VR games.

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So there's, you know, you can cloud game

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on a virtual screen. But this is now, because like one of the big points

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I was making during like the Vision Pro thing that you were like for $3,500, I was talking like,

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what about like a young professional? It's got like a small space and they want to have like a little space to themselves

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where they can be closed off, where they can have this big screen

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without having to have it take up all the space. All of those points I made,

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we can make way more sense now at this $500 price policy.

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Yeah, I mean, I'll go right with you and say that, you know, for maybe for students in a cramped dorm

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or in an apartment that is- If you're sharing a house with 11 people,

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which is a real thing that I know exists. Because no one can afford to live anywhere.

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Yeah. Well, this is now a real estate podcast.

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It's a seller's market, if you're buying you're losing.

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Yeah, yeah. Maybe a $500 headset that serves all of these purposes.

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I could, I still would say just buy like a Chromebook,

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but like, but you could maybe justify this a little bit more,

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but yeah, I'm not there yet. Okay, regardless. The pass through is really impressive too,

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because they said it's 18 pixels per degree,

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it's not exactly one-to-one with math, so level with me here,

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but like doing a rough sort of estimate, it's like HD pass through,

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so because it's 1980 by 17 and 28 pixels.

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Like that's pretty good, especially compared to Quest 2s,

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I just wrote bad because it was black and white in pixel.

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like it's not a great experience. You don't want to spend any more time in that mode

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than you have to. You feel like an out-of-date terminator.

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I was like exercising in my living room a few times and I heard my wife walk in

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and I like, you could tap the side of it to switch and I do that and like look over at her

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and she's just kind of like.

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And I can't, but I can't really see because it's so low res and black and white,

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but it was very useful, but it is like, I think for a lot of these things,

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it's hard to tell the usability of these headsets

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and hard to really evaluate their quality just looking at a spec list.

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I am really interested to see how these things perform

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when they come out and if I get to compare them, I think I put in my ticket to say,

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let me host the ShortCircuit for the Quest 3, so we'll see if they let me do that.

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I wanted to make sure, because this is the, I think, the most important comparison.

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You and I as a man of culture. Yes. Glasses. Yes.

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Glasses compatibility. I was just gonna say, I forgot about the whole Zeiss lenses thing

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for the Vision Pro so that it's gonna be even more expensive if you,

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I mean, we're not the market, okay? And this is the whole argument I was making

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in the last one when we talked about this, was like, they don't care.

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Like Apple does not care whether you need glasses or not.

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Like and they're not gonna put the space in there for that. They're like, if you're buying this, you have money,

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spend some more and get the fancy lenses. Although if you have the money, why didn't you get laser?

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Because. That's what Tim Cook's gonna sound like after a thousand Marlboro's.

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Laser. Get laser. Welcome to another Apple event.

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We got phones here. I wanna talk about the AI now

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because this is interesting to me.

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Meta has been sort of a champion of open source AI.

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Open AI, ironically, is the opposite.

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It's closed AI. They release almost nothing about

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the underpinnings of their tech.

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They keep it locked down. And Google's working on Bard.

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We also have like Anthropic, which I guess everyone talks about,

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but I have not used Claude and apparently you can use it,

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but I haven't heard much about it at all. It's got some interesting features.

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At Meta Connect, Mark Zuckerberg walks out and says,

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okay, now we do have our own AI assistant.

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We've integrated a llama and they said,

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it's built on llama and other stuff.

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Well, the first thing you said when it came out was, hey everybody, what about this crazy future?

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Where everybody had VR and you had your own AI assistants

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and a bunch of different AI friends and they all showed up in the metaverse

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and you could talk to the light people. Did he say that? Anyway, here's the quest three.

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Is that what happened? That is what happened, yeah. I don't remember that.

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Yeah, he went on this whole 15 minute tangent. Oh, you know what it was?

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I heard him say, the real world is really amazing.

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Yeah, yeah, and then he checked out. And then right after he said that,

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I cut to that guy looking at the camera and I was like, I burst out laughing

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and immediately tried to make it. You immediately tweeted that. Yeah.

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I was like, it was just so funny to have Mark Zuckerberg,

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the weird person who doesn't seem like a real human

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who loves the metaverse talking about it. You know, I will say, grass was pretty nice.

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That's not, I'm doing Tim Cook as Mark Zuckerberg. You know what, reality really is amazing.

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Recently chat, GPT got this, the multimodal update.

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So now it can see here and speak is what OpenAI called it,

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which means that you can show it images, you can have it generate images,

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it can analyze things that way. And now all the major AI, like the LLM services can do that.

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Chat GPT can do it. Bing has been able to do it for a while

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with Dolly in both those cases.

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Bard has been able to do it for a few months at least.

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I think they added that to Bard in like May

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or March or something. And now Meta AI is launching their chat bot

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with multimodal capabilities with because of the other thing that they announced, EMU.

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Now they have their own image generator. I was actually really impressed.

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I think that these image generators have come so far

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in just a year and a bit. Like Dolly too launched and it was like, okay,

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you can make like a squishy, blurry image of a teddy bear holding a thing.

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And now you can create photorealistic imagery of like, you know, humans.

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And mid journey was kind of farthest along, but now it seems like with EMU that it can do that as well.

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Dolly's recent update to Dolly three, it can do that as well.

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Like everything is looking amazing with these image generators.

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And there's obviously copious ethical concerns

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still in the mix. Getty images just released their own AI generator

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trained only on licensed images. So I think that's going in the right direction.

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Zuck said that Meta AI can be invoked.

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And I love that that's the term analogy we're using. It sounds like goddamn magic.

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It sounds like- I invoke AI.

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Put down your card. You're having a debate. It's a trap. Instead of like, bring up your phone and using Google.

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Yeah, so you can invoke Meta AI, which it's a dumb name.

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They should have called it something. Metai. You got chat GPT, you got Bard, you got Bing.

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Bing AI is a stupid name. They could have- Everything that's blank AI is dumb and stupid.

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Well, no, it's not Bing AI, it's just Bing. Like Bing is Bing.

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Bing is one, Bing is all. All right, well, that's still stupid.

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Guess what? But so they should have come up with a name.

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Cause now we're saying Meta AI for the assistant.

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How about this? Cortana.

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Anything, even that. If Meta AI, if Meta came out and said,

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it's called Cortana, I'd be like, fine. It's better.

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That's a shot at Microsoft, by the way. So you can invoke it in Messenger,

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WhatsApp, and Instagram, cause those are Meta's chat apps.

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Which is pretty cool. I don't think you can do that with,

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like can you, you can go to your chat GPT app and talk to chat GPT, and there are a bunch of apps

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that have built in calls to- To GPT, yeah.

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I think Snapchat AI, you can do that. Yeah.

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Which just uses chat GPT. But I don't think you could just like be in a group chat.

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That was, I mean, it's kind of scary. You can be in a group chat and be talking about something

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and you're like, where should we go on the trip?

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Let's get some ideas. Hey, Meta AI, give us some ideas,

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and it'll come in and give you some ideas. But that kind of scares me, cause I'm like,

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okay, maybe the people in your group chat, maybe your people in your group chat didn't consent to,

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you know, you bringing in this like data sucking AI that is using your data to train itself.

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Or just like a new personality whose vibe they have to like get. Like right now I gotta adjust to the sixth voice.

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Like- The what? Like, you know, you ever been like a group

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and all of a sudden like you're the sixth boy. What'd you say? Coming to theaters.

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The sixth boy. What did you say? I mean, like, I mean, like, it's like,

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what are those things where like, you know, you're just hanging out with people, and then like they just, like someone just brings

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like a new person. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're just like, now you gotta like get like a read

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on their like their personality. Yeah. Like, like it's like-

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Meta AI is the awkward friend that wasn't invited. It just like shows up and then like, you're like,

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all right, now I have to like, understate and contemplate this person while also being afraid for my like privacy.

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You're like, ah, I didn't really want to get to know a new person right now.

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Yeah, I was just looking to like, crack a cold one with the boys. The boys.

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Not boys plus a new boy. Not sixth boy.

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In theaters Friday.

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Anyways, yeah. So I think this is why this was interesting to me.

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Chat GPT is obviously used very widely,

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although users have apparently dropped off a cliff from when it was at its peak.

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Yeah, that makes sense. But it has remained sort of like in its own bubble.

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Bing is there, but in order to use Bing,

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you have to use Bing. And I think a lot of people still don't like using Bing.

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It's, yeah, I mean, they do, there are adding compatibility with third party browsers.

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So at least you don't have to use Edge. Really? I believe that's correct, yes.

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Oh, I didn't hear about that. Yeah, and obviously like, you know,

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it's an edge or whatever, but regardless,

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I like the idea. I think this is where things are going,

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is you have an AI assistant that may,

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I don't know if they talked specifically, they did talk about this training

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specifically to certain people, but having an AI that you can like bring

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into multiple different things. And that, you know, Windows Copilot,

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I think is gonna be a bit like that, where it's just like a Windows,

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which has apparently rolled out now. Yeah, but I am afraid for it.

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I haven't checked anything on that. We'll have to see.

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I'm afraid, because like one of the things I showed in the demo on their September,

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whatever event, the summer 21st event,

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was like, she highlighted like a whole block

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of text in the email, and Amelia popped up and was like, hey, maybe you should do this with that.

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And I already hate it when Microsoft Word does that,

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because it's always wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always like, hey, do you wanna like

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put that in a resume? No, I don't. It's almost funny because these features aren't,

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it seems like these features are often not geared towards like power users who like,

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I know what I have to do, I know how to do it, just let me do it.

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And these companies keep creating these features

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that are like, hey, I can help you. It's like Clippy just keeps coming back.

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We keep killing him. And he keeps, why won't you die?

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But I think that that kind of feature can be useful for non-power users who are like,

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I'm just trying to do this for the first time. And if it's-

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Grammys are gonna love AI. If it's usability is good enough to like

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make up for the fact that it pops up in an opportune time, where it's like,

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hey, do you wanna do this wrong thing? But it's like, no, but I wanna do this right thing.

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And it's like, okay, sure. Like if it does that, then I don't know why it sounds

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like an old-timey Disney character, but. Sure.

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Well, I can help with that. Hiya, bucko.

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All right, here we go. But the thing that we have to talk about,

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one of the last things is these freaking characters.

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So Meta AI is the general name for the assistant.

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You know, it's the Siri, it's the Alexa, it's the Google Assistant.

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But Meta announced AI Studio,

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which will be a way for, I guess creators,

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I guess brands, developers to create AI characters

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with specific characteristics that are good for different things.

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So if you wanna talk to an AI about sports, you talk to the AI character played by.

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Tom Brady. Tom Brady. And if you wanna talk to somebody about manga,

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you talk to Japanese tennis champion Naomi Osaka.

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Is that real? Yes. No.

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She's a tennis champion. Yes.

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Some of these things didn't make- And if you wanna laugh, you talk to international funny man Jimmy,

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AKA Mr. Beast. He's a hilarious, like he's a comedian.

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He knows burgers, he knows chocolates. That's two fonts of comedy right there.

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It's like, it just smacks of like a tech giant

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not understanding what an influencer's like wheelhouse is.

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Like, you're the biggest YouTuber on the planet. You must be funny, right?

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Like, I don't think he's that funny. I think he's like a good businessman

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and like a cool hype guy. Here's the thing, it almost feels like they,

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it almost felt like they understood wheelhouses in that they were subverting them.

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Like, they did it really well to like go to the fact

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with Snoop, with Snoop is like a DM. That's a really good subversion of like,

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where is wheelhouses? He's like, hey, he's like this rapper

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and people love him for a bunch of different reasons. Let's make him a DM, because that's kind of hilarious.

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That was sort of like a funny kind of a subversion.

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But making Mr. Beast a man who has the terrible condition

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that prevents him from smiling or he will die, making him the face of comedy.

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Yeah, very strange. It's not far away enough to be like,

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oh, they're subverting what he's actually known for. But it's also not close enough to what he actually does.

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Right, making Paris Hilton a detective is funny because that's never gonna happen.

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Yeah, but anyways. Also, oh wait, okay, there's one thing I need to mention.

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I have to mention for this specific part

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was when they had Charlie D'Amelio as Coco, which they labeled the Dancing Queen

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and the frickin' voice said, making sure your moves aren't sus.

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If we have like a suburban dad watching the thing,

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he's like, why worry about whether my moves are sus every day?

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Please, help. Okay. Do you dance like you just came out of a vent

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and ate a person?

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What? Because that's where sus comes from from among us.

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Oh, okay, jeez. Now I think it escaped that a long time ago.

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Yeah, I know, but still I thought it was a funny thing to say.

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Regardless, I think across the board, the celebrities playing AI things makes zero sense

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because you're talking to an AI that has nothing to do with the celebrity.

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The AI is not pretending to be Tom Brady or whatever.

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It's just, and they even have different names. It's just expressive gifs of their face.

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Yeah, it's like a slightly more technologically advanced

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version of when you'd go on Omegle, hit random roulette,

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and a person would hop up and be pretending to be Gwen Stefani, would just be a repeating loop

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of Gwen Stefani's face. And even worse, it's not even like a loop,

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it's like a bunch of clips. I saw this in the live stream.

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It's a bunch of clips that they morph into each other with image morphing.

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And so every once in a while, it's got Snoop Dogg kind of like doing a little laugh.

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And he's like, and then it does this like weird, like any morphs into another expression

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because that's a separate clip and they just like blended them together. I love that.

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I'm just like, for why do I have this little video playing

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in the corner so I can like pretend I'm talking? So they said, I think they said that this is an alpha.

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So I don't even think it's like going to be public

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anytime soon. Okay, I looked this up and the AI characters

423
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,040
are actually in beta. So some of the public can interact with them

424
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,680
and they even have Facebook and Instagram profiles. So, okay.

425
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,880
But they did show it, they were showing it as a proof of concept for creators and brands

426
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,680
to create, to show that we can create specific AI characters

427
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,120
to represent brands, creators.

428
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,680
And like, this is a trend that's happening right now with like, there's a few like niche creators online

429
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:51,040
that are doing it, that they're training AIs on their own, Grimes did it, I think.

430
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,800
They're training AIs on their own like tweets and texts and all these things to like talk like them.

431
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,920
People with simp armies. Yeah, yeah, simp armies.

432
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Your amaranths. So yes, so they're like looking to monetize that.

433
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,640
But also I think that there is a practical application

434
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,400
where, okay, I wanna ask a podcast host,

435
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,920
the example he gave, I think was Andrew Huberman.

436
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,480
Maybe you wanna ask, oh, are you gonna have this guy on?

437
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Are you gonna talk about this topic soon? Or like, whatever, I don't know.

438
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,560
And then the AI could give you information about that because it has that information.

439
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,200
That could be useful. Yeah, it could be useful for that,

440
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,720
for basically eliminating social media coordinators

441
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:40,040
as a job. Well, maybe, but like, this is when I first heard that

442
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,840
this is the immediate thing that I thought of. And limiting, probably eliminating a lot of customer support.

443
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,920
That's what I was thinking of, was I was thinking of

444
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,080
there are so many goddamn sites out there

445
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,080
with brain dead assistants that do not help me at all.

446
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,000
The first thing I type in every time I get to them is talk to an agent.

447
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,880
If Meta can sell them a service that actually works,

448
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,440
so I also don't have to talk to human beings, but I can still be served, I'm all for it.

449
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,560
Right, yeah. And I think that AI was always,

450
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,200
that was kind of one of the most obvious use cases since ChatGPD came out was like,

451
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,400
oh, those chatbots on the websites suck, and this will make them better.

452
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:30,760
Calling them chatbots is generous. Sure, but having that trained specifically

453
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,320
on a specific brand and the personality of the brand

454
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,160
and all that stuff, I think that is a good use of AI.

455
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,400
I would love to see Wendy's customer support.

456
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,560
They're just like meming on you, they're just like, they're just denigrating you,

457
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,640
the whips up. Bitch, you want a burger?

458
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Sorry, I can't help you with that. Why don't you go stuff your face with some more nuggets?

459
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,440
Your mother doesn't love you.

460
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,800
All right, on that note,

461
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,700
lastly, real quick, the Ray-Ban smart glasses.

462
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:13,120
Camera's better, it comes in more styles, it's lighter, but yeah, I am genuinely interested

463
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,080
in how this is gonna play out. Yeah, that thing they showed with the thing

464
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,280
that blew me away was the, it can help you repair a leaky faucet.

465
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Yes. I was thinking about that and it's like,

466
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,080
it wouldn't just, I'm assuming when he says that,

467
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,320
he's not talking about just a general leaky faucet, I mean, it'll be specifically identifying

468
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,580
what this looks like. There's gotta be patterns of different ways

469
00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:41,700
that misbehaving faucets look for different problems. So like.

470
00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:45,500
And you can always send them to say in a corner for a time out.

471
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:50,500
No, I just mean, instead of spending like $83 per hour

472
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:54,820
for a plumber, you can spend $200 on a pair of glasses.

473
00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:59,580
And wreck your own plumbing even more. Sorry, I'm saying that because I recently had

474
00:34:59,580 --> 00:35:03,420
a plumbing mishap, a trained plumber did it wrong.

475
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:08,380
So I'm like, I don't even trust myself. But not, Google searching changed the world.

476
00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:11,580
Being able to just be like, hmm, what is that thing?

477
00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:18,820
And you'd look it up and now you have the information. And I think that having an agent that is able

478
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:23,500
to experience what you're experiencing and give you context directly,

479
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:29,260
Google searching is a skill right now. You go on there and your first search,

480
00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:33,980
you're not gonna find what you, I mean, a lot of the time. Then you add Reddit to the end of it.

481
00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:39,020
Yeah, and then that'll help a lot. Yeah, but I think that again, this is like,

482
00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:42,180
we have to think about it in terms of hardcore techie people

483
00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:46,540
and we have to think about it in terms of not techie people at all because for them,

484
00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:50,180
this is gonna change a lot. They're gonna be able to look at something

485
00:35:50,180 --> 00:35:55,540
and say, what do I do here? And the other thing is, compared to something like Google Glass

486
00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:59,100
is that they're making it fashionable as well as functional.

487
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:02,740
So that people can be excited about the prospect of it

488
00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:06,580
and also not feel like they're standing out for being into it and being othered.

489
00:36:06,580 --> 00:36:10,260
Right, they look like normal glasses. Yeah, and the thing about it is this is stuff

490
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:14,980
that it's so sci-fi. I remember watching Altered Carbon

491
00:36:14,980 --> 00:36:19,020
and he was asking like an AI contact lens.

492
00:36:19,020 --> 00:36:22,060
He's like, where's the best place to go to stay for the night?

493
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:25,300
And it's like, go to this hotel. Yeah, it can tell you that.

494
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:31,740
It can do that now. You know, it won't be perfect. This is the first, is it the first?

495
00:36:31,780 --> 00:36:35,660
I think it might be the first real product that can do something like that.

496
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:39,180
I mean, like Google Glasses could give you

497
00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:42,780
like Google search results. And I think there's some like,

498
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:48,740
I think there's Huawei or Xiaomi is doing something like this. But I think that in terms of having glasses,

499
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:53,100
obviously it doesn't have a heads up display. So that's the main limitation.

500
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:57,900
I'm guessing that, you know, you ask it something and if it has a result that you have to look at,

501
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:02,220
you can look at your phone. But regardless, I think that having,

502
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,500
being able to show the AI a picture directly

503
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:09,460
from your vision could be a game changer.

504
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:13,420
And now, basically we have the underlying technology here

505
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:15,740
and now we just add a heads up display to it.

506
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:19,740
I don't know. I remember. We'll have to see.

507
00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:24,220
Those are available October 17th starting at $300

508
00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:28,780
and which is actually kind of crazy. They announced it and then it's gonna be here real soon.

509
00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:35,060
The Quest 3 is launching, it's shipping October 10th for $500.

510
00:37:35,060 --> 00:37:42,980
And the AI Meta stuff, I'm honestly kind of confused about that. As with like many of the LLM based bots,

511
00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:48,220
they're available in various forms of beta.

512
00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:51,940
There's Bing and ChatGPT, which is probably the most available, but.

513
00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:55,420
If any of my loved ones are watching and want to get me something stupid

514
00:37:55,420 --> 00:37:59,600
and expensive for my birthday, there's two options.

515
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,960
The Quest 3 or the Ray-Bans? Glasses, yeah.

516
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,600
Honestly, I don't think I want the Ray-Bans. I want to try them.

517
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,720
The thing I'm most excited about are these Ray-Ban glasses.

518
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:16,080
I cannot stress how excited I am for them. I do not want these glasses on my face.

519
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,280
I'm a tech YouTuber. I'm interested in them to cover them,

520
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,720
not to like have in my home, because that's kind of, I don't know. It still weirds me out.

521
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,960
Meta, you're cooler than you used to be,

522
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,920
but you're still Facebook. I know who you are under there. I know you are under that weird squiggly logo.

523
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,400
You're moms. You're moms and aunts.

524
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,640
They are moms and aunts. Yeah.

525
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Trying to friend me. He's envisioning like a big like monster

526
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,440
made up physically of a mass of moms.

527
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,600
A momotron? Yeah, but he falls.

528
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,360
Like that. The gnomes. Okay.

529
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,680
All right, that's enough of this. We went for way too long,

530
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,080
but hopefully this is a good episode. Thanks for watching. Talklinked, it's a thing.

531
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,360
It happens when we have stat holidays, basically. And we love you.

532
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Yeah, sure. I love you. Subscribe, see you later.

533
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,640
Yeah, I'm gonna say it back. What? You're talking to me? Cut that, cut that.

534
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,800
My stomach is, I'm hungry.
