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I think I can speak for all of us when I say that this GPU generation

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has been a little bit less than Super. But not anymore.

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Look, the RTX 4070 Super, it's finally here.

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And in a cool matte black finish that I think looks really, really slick.

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Just like every other Founders Edition box, it's really prone to dropping the GPU

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and inside we get a fancy

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12-volt horsepower adapter, because I like to call it.

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The H-Power stands for horse. Obviously the very controversial connector

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that I really wish that they would just ditch at some point. Still sticks out the side, looks ugly as usual.

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But you gotta respect sticking to your guns. Let's jump into the specs

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and see how this differs from its older brother.

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The new RTX 4070 Super will be using the same GPU chip,

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the AD104, that can be found in the 4070 and in the 4070 Ti.

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If you remember, the 4070 Ti was originally gonna be called the 4080 12 Gigabyte.

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And then everyone got really mad because it's on a different chip than the 4080.

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This is the third card that they've released on this chip. So what does the 4070 Super bring?

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Well, it's still cut down compared to the 4070 Ti,

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but we see about a 20 to 22% increase across the board

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and pretty much all cores. You got CUDA cores, TENSOR cores,

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shader cores, ray tracing cores. We got all of them. We got more of them.

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Which basically implies that NVIDIA has been able to improve their yields pretty substantially.

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Or maybe they've been struggling to make 4070 Ti's

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because this is cut down from that. The new 4070 Ti Super, yes, I know,

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that's kind of a hat on a hat for a name, actually has been moved up to the 4080 die

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and will be cut down from that. That's the AD103.

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So now we're never gonna see a card that has a full AD104 chip on it.

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Everything is cut down, which is okay. There's lots of times where you have to disable cores

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to get better yields. But NVIDIA hasn't really done much in terms of increasing clock speeds.

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The base clock on the 4070 Super is 1,980 megahertz,

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a small bump over the 1,920 megahertz on the RTX 4070.

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But nothing, no increase to boost clock, which means that NVIDIA is relying

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on the extra silicon on the chip for the performance benefit.

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They're also quoting an increased power draw over the 4070, but just by about 10%.

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So not a huge increase. And they didn't bother to increase the cooler,

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which is totally fine because it's already a relatively low power card.

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And these pass-through coolers that NVIDIA made have been doing just fine this entire generation,

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keeping everything cool. And I actually like the size of these.

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This is a nice dual slot-ish card, and it isn't crazy tall or anything.

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It fits into cases, which is what I appreciate. I'm tired of big triple slot cards

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that don't need to be that big because they can be cooled by something this small.

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Man, the new like sleek black finish just kind of makes the 4070 look kind of out of date.

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I don't know what it is. Maybe I'm just overwhelmed by the shiny new new. Really, there's no difference to IO or anything like that.

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There's very, very little difference physically about these cards outside of the cool color.

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Yep, we're good. There's not gonna be any bump to VRAM or anything like that,

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which is a little bit disappointing because I still think that at the price point

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that these cards exist at, you really should be getting 16 gigs,

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especially now that AMD has announced that they're releasing a $300 card with 16 gigabytes.

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It's ridiculous. And it's still stocked at that 192-bit bus width.

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Unlike the other supers that have been announced in the lineup, this is not replacing this.

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These will be sold alongside one another. The 4070 Ti Super will replace the 4070 Ti

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and the 4080 Super will replace the 4080. These, however, are both going to remain in production

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for now. If we walk down the stack, we have the 4070 Super at $600.

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At $550, we have the 4070. Then at $500, we have the 4060 Ti 16 Gigabyte

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and then we have a $100 leap all the way down to the 4060 Ti, not just eight gig.

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And it feels like that's where the big chasm is. Like why not lower the price of the 4060 Ti 16 gig

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and then insert these into the price stack? That seems to make a lot more sense

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because if this takes place of the 4070 in the product stack and there's that much of a difference between the 4070

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and the 4060 Ti 16 Gigabyte, it kind of makes the 4060 Ti 16 Gigabyte

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seem even more stupid than it already does.

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It's like truly got to be one of the worst values

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ever for BC hardware. It's not cool, a 4090, it's kind of cool.

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It's just bad. It's like, oh, what an insult.

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And it's crazy that you go up two steps and you still don't have access to 16 gigabytes.

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Like, NVIDIA, come on.

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You have to get the 4070 Ti to get 60, the 4070 Ti Super now to get, oh man, I hate Ti Super.

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What a stupid name. All right, we've switched to the other set

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to get this GPU plugged in and we're playing some games. We're playing Cyberpunk on,

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let's check the settings right now. What are we at? The highest on Ultra, basically.

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With no path tracing yet, but we can do, we can do path tracing and see what happens.

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Path tracing card, this is not. I mean, even on the highest end cards in this game,

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like you only get like 20 frames per second.

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Okay. And we're getting like 23 frames per second

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with everything cranked. It's cinematic, isn't it, Andrew?

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But if we just turn on and go to DLSS

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and you can really see DLSS falling apart, like look at how like it gets nasty when we turn.

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When we turn ray tracing off, we're in like the 40, 45 region,

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which is honestly like completely, this is totally playable.

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I'd probably lower the sum of the less, wow. I'd probably lower the settings a little bit further,

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but honestly, this is pretty impressive like this.

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I'm pretty impressed. I wonder what the thermals are like. You know, we're getting like 70, 70-ish degrees.

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And I mean, wow, you know, it's pretty crazy. I mean, I'd expect nothing lasts

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for like a $600 graphics card, but let's see what we got for Mark.

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Yeah, 99, 100%, 100.5% power usage.

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At the hotspot, we're seeing 80, 205 watts, which is pretty much on spec

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for what they were quoting. It's fun to touch hot electronics, don't you agree?

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It feels surprising to me to see a 70 series card perform so dang well.

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They couldn't have really made it look more like a butthole. Whoa!

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Overall in our games at 1080p, we're seeing about a 14% increase

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over the 4070 on the 4070 Super and a 12% performance improvement over the 7800XT.

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In our 1% lows in 1080, it's a bit of a tighter race, but I'd say this is more of a 1440p card.

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So let's look at what those results show. In 1440p, we see that lead,

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especially in the 1% lows, increase over the 4070.

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This is probably thanks to the expanded L2 cache

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that's on the 4070 Super. So the 4070 Super is now performing more in line

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with that 20% increase that NVIDIA was quoting.

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When we go to DLSS, we see the actual 20%

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that NVIDIA was talking, and they were probably talking about DLSS numbers the whole time,

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because that's all they ever want to talk about. We see another 20% increase in ray tracing,

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and in 4K, that's where we see the biggest increases over the 4070.

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That's about all the analysis we're going to do here. If you want to learn more, just wait for the end of the month

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when we're going to release a video on LTT about all of the Super cards.

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And for now, enjoy these graphs, and you can learn a little bit more

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about these cards for yourself. It's a great card, it's still too expensive.

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