WEBVTT 00:00:02.320 --> 00:00:09.599 hey hey it's w show time again we've got a great show for you guys today 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:13.679 unfortunately you aren't watching it you're watching the W show 00:00:14.040 --> 00:00:20.760 oh lol you know I really feel like when 00:00:18.560 --> 00:00:25.320 I'm old I what what are those Muppets names the hecklers the the old man 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:29.279 hecklers oh I haven't watched The Muppets in about 25 years I I don't I 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:33.760 don't know well I think I know who you're talking about but my goal in life 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:38.920 is to basically be those guys when I'm old uh Muppet hecklers I I don't know I 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:44.239 don't know what their names are well that's not very difficult to do ah 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:47.239 W okay so they're supposed weren't they supposed to be sort of like weird 00:00:45.680 --> 00:00:52.120 versions like cisc and Ebert or something yeah yeah I think so I think 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:56.120 so and you know everything everything is a oneliner with them they're like this 00:00:53.480 --> 00:01:01.840 is a great show yeah great at putting me to 00:00:57.559 --> 00:01:04.119 sleep oh man I I aspire to nothing more 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:07.799 actually um that's going to be that's going to be very easy to do you're 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:11.520 setting the bar very low for yourself I think I'm basically at I think I'm 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:16.520 basically there now with kind of are you're just not old yet so so that's all 00:01:14.320 --> 00:01:20.240 I have to achieve you just have to age to do that's it to do everything I want 00:01:18.320 --> 00:01:24.520 out of my life I just have to continue to make it around the Sun like another 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:27.479 40 or so more times and then I'll and then I'm great you live in Canada they 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:31.400 told me this is a safe country so it's probably fine um all right so wel 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:36.880 welcome to the W show you guys we've got a bunch of great topics for you today 00:01:33.880 --> 00:01:39.240 including Intel 00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:45.680 uncharacteristically throwing shade at the competition which For the First Time 00:01:42.520 --> 00:01:49.240 In Like A decade is 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:51.119 AMD it's like the insecurity is just 00:01:49.240 --> 00:01:57.079 dripping out of the computer screen right it was it was pretty brutal it was 00:01:53.200 --> 00:02:01.280 pretty brutal M um also AMD's ryzen 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:03.799 Threadripper and ryzen 3 have tons of 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:11.080 new updates in a uh video post that they created earlier on this week the Skylake 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:13.360 X vrm and thermal paste and power 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:20.319 consumption mess has been explored by Tom's Hardware and we've got John here 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:22.879 to specially cover a legal topic that we 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:28.239 wanted to get into uh which one was it where is it where is it Zillo the Zillow 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:33.440 uh copyright infringement case which sounds a lot less interesting than it 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:40.040 actually is there we go Zillow massive website tries to sue uh 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:44.720 satirical blogger over photos that Zillow doesn't even own so brilliant so 00:02:43.440 --> 00:02:51.920 it's going to be a good one so let's go ahead and roll the intro and we'll see you on the other side R the intro yes it 00:02:49.959 --> 00:02:57.080 worked I think we might be a little bit out of focus but that's okay I'm never 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:06.159 focused I mean you did just take the joke right out of my head so prob give 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:06.159 you cred for that you won't miss 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:14.000 it I don't know where okay all right I fix it h 00:03:11.959 --> 00:03:18.879 com fres books and put that back so that the 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:24.840 intro Will Roll properly next time that is indeed why I do that did the did 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:28.720 Twitter just crash how how you even how even do this is it Twitter's fault or is 00:03:26.640 --> 00:03:33.519 it Chrome's fault maybe both I I don't know it could very easily P's over here 00:03:31.640 --> 00:03:38.680 playing with the focus yeah oh thank you P that is that is just wonderful and the 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:46.799 Tweet is up this is I didn't even notice so this is how double tweets happen Okay 00:03:42.640 --> 00:03:49.879 Chrome thank you all right so the 00:03:46.799 --> 00:03:52.040 original topic here is from uh wow I 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:56.480 actually managed to prepare even less than usual for the W show today I do not 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:59.879 have my HDMI cable plugged in and somehow I managed to my muscle memory 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:04.519 didn't help me here I managed to put my Mouse in the wrong spot all right we're 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:09.319 not Boy Scouts we not really prepared we're going to jump right in this was 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:11.560 originally posted over on ours Technica 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:15.799 and oh we're doing this okay in a nutshell uh here we go Linus's screen is 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:23.120 it going to work is it going to work is it oh wow there we go 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:26.639 yes okay so take me through this John 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:29.120 what is going on here so uh as you can 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:34.680 see on the uh screen grab there site called uh mcmansion hell and for those 00:04:32.039 --> 00:04:42.639 of you who don't know or probably mostly people not from the US or what's a McMan 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:45.199 a MCM is a large yet relatively cheaply 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:48.960 built house it was um they were building them all over the place in the US before 00:04:47.080 --> 00:04:54.639 um the housing bubble burst in the late 2000s and uh they're they're larger but 00:04:52.919 --> 00:05:00.360 like I said slightly cheaper cheap more cheaply built built houses and so this 00:04:58.039 --> 00:05:05.400 um this blogger started this website called mcmansion hell and this blogger 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:10.120 is I think an architectural student so she was going through and posting all 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:12.880 these pictures of homes that she 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:16.639 considered to be mcms and telling people oh these are terrible buildings that 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:20.360 have terrible architecture here are the reasons why and this is a regular blog 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:24.759 that she updated sounds pretty funny yeah it was pretty popular she had lots 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:29.080 of visitors um who liked her sort of snarky take on oh LOL you could scrape 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:33.520 these Windows off with a paint knife this is terrible um so she got a lot of these pictures 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:36.840 from Zillow which is like this huge sort of like real estate site if you want to 00:05:35.479 --> 00:05:41.800 sell your house a lot of people use Zillow to post pictures of the house on 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:44.720 there so sure okay yeah anyway Zillow 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:49.880 got wind to this and they so they sent her a very angry cease and assist letter 00:05:47.919 --> 00:05:54.759 saying oh you're infringing our copyrights and you can't do this and 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:57.080 this and that so um so this kind of blew 00:05:54.759 --> 00:06:03.080 up she freaked out she's like my is at stake so yeah so so she could lose her 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:04.840 job but Zillow didn't take these photos 00:06:03.080 --> 00:06:11.240 no they didn't which is like a huge Wrinkle In this case so the photos that 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:14.360 um people like they upload them to Zilla right so if you want to sell your house 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:20.199 you take your own photos of your own house and you upload them the photos are 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:21.479 yours and when so I had a look at take 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:26.080 your own photos what are we doing here that's what you sound like sorry go ahead that's what I sound like okay 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:29.800 thank you I know what I sound like I have plenty of people in the tech 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:33.479 quickie comments hey John do you know that you sound like are you from the 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:36.720 south yeah where where where are you from yeah it's what what do you have in 00:06:35.440 --> 00:06:42.120 your mouth what's wrong with your voice anyway so I think someone has asked me 00:06:39.440 --> 00:06:45.400 that one time okay anyway but all right so you take the pictures you put them on 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:50.080 Zillow I had to look at zillow's terms of service and they say okay if you put 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:54.440 pictures on Zillow you're giving us a non-exclusive license to to use them 00:06:53.000 --> 00:07:00.440 yeah that's pretty typical like even on the LT Forum um I believe your text 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:07.160 content we actually say we own but pictures posted we something along 00:07:03.840 --> 00:07:09.080 those lines and okay so if you look at 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:12.360 if you look at if Zillow can even Sue because that's the big one of the big 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:17.400 questions it's like do they even have standing to Sue and and standing laws of 00:07:15.919 --> 00:07:23.560 it's kind of a simple concept to understand right it's if you're going to take someone to court you have to be a 00:07:21.520 --> 00:07:26.879 party to whatever the dispute is if someone walks in here and punches lonus 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:33.120 in the mouth and knocks a few of his teeth out yeah I can't see neighbor well 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:36.240 maybe you could your my livelihood is at 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:37.960 stake because my boss can't come to work 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:43.080 and shoot the videos that I write therefore but so yeah it's a bit more 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:49.240 tenuous but but if let's say you were some complete freaking random yeah yeah 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:54.360 you can't sue because you have nothing at well well if someone okay suppose 00:07:51.919 --> 00:08:00.159 that lions and I were just friends and we're walking down the street together 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:05.720 friends suppose someone comes up to him just punches him in the face I can't sue 00:08:03.440 --> 00:08:10.960 that that guy on Lion's behalf he has to do it himself so the concept is that how 00:08:09.440 --> 00:08:13.479 how the concept applies here man I've had way too much caffeine just all over 00:08:12.479 --> 00:08:19.159 the place the way the concept applies here 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:22.440 is that the fifth circuit which is was no it was the ninth I'm sorry but the 00:08:20.280 --> 00:08:25.639 ninth circuit in the US very influential appeals court right below the Supreme 00:08:23.960 --> 00:08:30.960 Court yeah uh there was a case from a couple years ago where they ruled that 00:08:28.400 --> 00:08:35.159 you have you can have standing to sue about infringement of someone else's 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:41.599 copyright only if you have some sort of exclusive right which in their own terms 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:43.159 of service do not have right if I don't 00:08:41.599 --> 00:08:46.839 know if it says nonexclusive specifically but but it doesn't 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:53.160 specifically say it's exclusive what you would have to do correct so so this is 00:08:50.560 --> 00:08:58.959 whether they even have standing to sue the MCM hell blogger is very very very 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:03.480 unclear I would my if I were to Hazard a guess I would say they do not but it 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:07.480 didn't stop her from being embroiled in this big legal battle she's got some 00:09:04.880 --> 00:09:11.640 pretty prominent IP lawyers on her side right now but um it's it's an 00:09:09.959 --> 00:09:15.760 interesting question about you know who gets this could affect dank memes 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:20.519 forever it absolutely could who gets to use Pepe which is which is why this 00:09:18.560 --> 00:09:24.320 conversation is important by the way which is why we're having it on L show 00:09:22.040 --> 00:09:30.680 but honestly I'm still not over how lowkey burned I just got about a minute 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:33.279 or two ago there the suppose we were 00:09:30.680 --> 00:09:36.200 friends see with I qualified the statement by saying 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:43.000 just let the records show I said just 00:09:39.839 --> 00:09:45.360 instead of friends plus cooworker lineus 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:48.680 being on Facebook our current status would be it's 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:51.720 complicated okay okay see see what you've done you've gone you've gone on 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:56.560 you've made this something it isn't now there's going to be more horrible like 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:59.120 fanfiction written about this thanks and 00:09:56.560 --> 00:10:03.320 now you're the one who invited it you're the who invited you know what let's have 00:10:01.079 --> 00:10:06.240 Luke join us let's have Luke join us for a fan fiction 00:10:06.920 --> 00:10:12.839 Extravaganza if we're going to invite it we might as well invite it what what's 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.720 happening it's just that I don't want it's just that I don't want you to come 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:22.600 between us oh okay I use the words just friends to to imply in illegal 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:28.959 hypothetical involving me and lonus and things happen so quit get naked says 00:10:25.040 --> 00:10:30.040 twitch chat um speaking of violating the 00:10:28.959 --> 00:10:36.639 terms a service so 00:10:32.560 --> 00:10:40.959 basically Zillow still says 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:44.200 um they they what do they want they 00:10:40.959 --> 00:10:46.320 wanted to take down the photos oh okay 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:50.320 but what what what's interesting about this another thing that's interesting 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:54.519 about this is that even if some Court said that Zillow has standing to sue 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:58.839 which I doubt but if it gets to that phase yeah um one of the biggest things 00:10:56.839 --> 00:11:03.079 that courts look for whether to determine if a use of the copyrighted 00:11:00.920 --> 00:11:07.519 photo or something is fair use that turn gets thrown around a lot fair use is the 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:12.279 effect on the market for the work who the heck is going to like start selling 00:11:10.040 --> 00:11:16.720 their random pictures of their random mcmansions and make tons of money off of 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:20.160 them right you know so and I think so there's a there's a strong argument I'm 00:11:18.839 --> 00:11:23.760 not saying it'll win necessarily but there's a strong argument saying there's 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:27.320 no real market for these pictures as being affected right so she wants to 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:32.480 argue fair use but again like I said there's a standing issue may not even get to that point so okay got it yeah 00:11:31.160 --> 00:11:38.440 there there's multiple Hoops to jump through in in law if you've ever fought a traffic ticket I'm sure you've figured 00:11:35.800 --> 00:11:43.920 that out so all right well thanks John I'm going to have Luke tag in because he 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:45.720 actually just arrived back from the one 00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:49.639 and only Silicon Valley can we talk about the juicero real fast before he 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:52.760 tags out we can talk about the juicero okay hold on is that even in the dock 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:56.880 yeah I put it in there like 45 minutes ago all right all right let's bring extremely quickly we'll do we're 00:11:55.120 --> 00:12:01.440 bringing up the juicero tell me about okay so this is also from ours um we 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:04.600 ever talked about this thing before I know we haven't on the channel have we 00:12:02.839 --> 00:12:08.839 ever talked about it like on the W show cuz I don't believe we have not much we 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:13.959 have yes I think yeah I think says a little bit we said yeah it's dumb okay 00:12:10.959 --> 00:12:15.600 I'll give you a really quick tldr um if 00:12:13.959 --> 00:12:20.480 also if you've seen any of of of critical videos on YouTube I'm sure 00:12:17.760 --> 00:12:25.800 you've seen this where he lampooned this ridiculous thing called the juicero and 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:28.079 it's it is a juicer that originally cost 00:12:25.800 --> 00:12:32.279 $800 they've since dropped the price to$ 400 and now it's going to be down to 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:37.800 below 200 according to this article from RS Technica but all it is it's this 00:12:35.040 --> 00:12:42.519 thing they ship you packets you know they look like they look like giant you 00:12:39.920 --> 00:12:46.800 know hot or coold packets or whatever they cost about $5 to $7 each you put 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:49.720 them inside this thing you shut a door on it you press a button and it has to 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:53.440 be connected to the internet at all times it squeezes the juice packet and 2 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:58.760 minutes later you have the glass of juice that's literally what it does and 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:02.760 it originally sold for um seven or I think it was $700 but it was very 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:08.120 expensive okay so so apparently they've cut the price 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:14.079 already they've cut the price down to $200 and they've laid off a bunch of 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:15.839 their staff and my question is my 00:13:14.079 --> 00:13:21.120 question was why it was so expensive to begin with and apparently this thing was 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:25.800 this it was ridiculously over engineered some website did a tear down of it and 00:13:23.920 --> 00:13:34.000 it was a really really high build quality which is great but sorry a he's 00:13:29.839 --> 00:13:35.519 a YouTuber oh a right okay A a did the 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:39.720 did the tear down is that right Luke okay so he did the tear down and the 00:13:37.760 --> 00:13:43.680 thing was like I said absurdly over engineering all it was doing was just 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:48.160 squeezing a bag of like fruits and vegetables to make juice out of it um so 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:55.279 they decide to lower the price down to $200 but I'm wondering why not just get 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:59.199 an actual like baller juicer from Bed Bath and Beyond or somewhere or Amazon 00:13:57.160 --> 00:14:02.440 for that price and you could even get like an Amazon Fresh subscription and 00:14:00.959 --> 00:14:08.920 have the veggies and the fruits delivered to your door if you're too lazy to go to the store to buy them 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:11.240 instead of instead of 00:14:08.920 --> 00:14:14.480 this I mean could you see is there a universe where you would find this 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:20.440 useful lus like if you wanted fresh juice after a bad mitton game or 00:14:16.560 --> 00:14:22.519 something um so I have a Vitamix okay so 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:29.120 basically everything else can just get crapped 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:32.440 on so no so no there you go and the 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:34.560 stupid thing is that like as even at the 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:38.720 $400 price point you could get a used Vitamix which by the way will probably 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:42.399 run for like 50 years because those things are 00:14:39.920 --> 00:14:46.639 unbelievable um for the same price and then you could put literally anything 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:51.920 like you could put a child in a Vitamix um we we don't advise you do that you 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:56.040 can put has never happened well I can't say it's never happened yes um it's 00:14:53.759 --> 00:15:01.199 never happened to my children or in my presence or at my instruction there we 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:06.079 go am I covering all my legal bases right now I I I I think you are please 00:15:03.040 --> 00:15:07.600 do not I I I know that I I I know that 00:15:06.079 --> 00:15:12.759 small children cry but please don't put them in the Vitamix anyway okay what 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:16.440 what what uh what is this um modest proposal it's like you're channeling the 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:21.120 guy who wrote mod basically this is so strange oh crap I'm hold on hold on 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:26.600 Jonathan wait wait don't tell me ah no you already gave me enough of a 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:28.120 hint Swift okay well dang it it we all 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:33.360 we all know how intelligent you are L us it'll be all right so well it's remembering facts is not a not an 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:37.480 indication of intelligence necessarily although an complete inability to 00:15:35.079 --> 00:15:40.959 remember any facts could be an indicator that you're not intelligent so what does 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:46.399 that mean about people who remember a lot of facts 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:49.279 nothing yeah I say that's I say that's I 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:53.240 say that's accurate all right of course the twitch chat lonus likes Blended 00:15:50.959 --> 00:15:56.959 children confirmed no I don't like them why would I put them in a blender if I 00:15:55.079 --> 00:16:02.360 liked them wait what were we talking about 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:07.399 the flavor of dead children onto our onto our next topic so uh thanks John 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:13.480 thank you lus I feel like I'm supposed to shake your hand but like you work here I work with it's like yeah I know 00:16:11.560 --> 00:16:16.720 but it's like a I feel like we're like having guests on like a talk show right 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:21.959 now and like that's what they always do they're always like yeah John welcome to the show hey John thanks for being on 00:16:20.079 --> 00:16:27.480 and we'll see you after the break yeah you don't fresh books don't shake my 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:29.120 hand no you're not um you're not uh 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:33.440 who's doing the light show now cool bear if you're not yeah cool bear I'm not 00:16:30.560 --> 00:16:37.120 cool bear you know what I just want to say uh thanks for having me on the show 00:16:35.560 --> 00:16:41.519 I really I really appreciate you he knows what's up he knows what he just he 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:45.759 made you look so bad I I really appreciate the first he called me not a 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:53.079 friend then he's like you're not cool bear like 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:54.800 fine um oh man okay so do do do you want 00:16:53.079 --> 00:17:00.000 to talk about where you were like on a very high level yeah hell yeah let's do 00:16:57.040 --> 00:17:04.959 it I got freaking you burned owned you were down there for one only one side of 00:17:01.880 --> 00:17:06.640 your face and like what are you doing 00:17:04.959 --> 00:17:09.480 this side is white and this side is red you're brave is it that bad you're brave 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:13.839 heart dude have to wait for this to catch up oh it's pretty bad you're brave 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:17.919 heart okay what are you doing I I went to Twitch I went to hang out with my 00:17:14.959 --> 00:17:21.160 friend John and uh at one point in time he was like let's go get lunch at the 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:25.079 pier didn't realize how far away the pier was so we walked for like a very 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:29.240 long time it's like pier and they're like numbered or whatever right I yeah 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:32.799 okay sure and then had to walk all the way back trendy in the Sun the whole 00:17:31.120 --> 00:17:39.480 time while I'm carrying my like ridiculously heavy backpack I picked up 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:42.120 on that yeah that was uh that it was an 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:47.760 experience so how's your how's your trip it was really good it was fun checking 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:50.280 out twitch they are a crazy company um 00:17:47.760 --> 00:17:55.720 be careful what you say need I remind you what benevolent 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:58.320 overlords um we are we are leaning on 00:17:55.720 --> 00:18:03.880 right now to broadcast this here stream this might be say oh oh Lordy it's 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:05.400 Luke's mom oh good hello my favorite 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:11.159 hi hi how many times have I talked to you 00:18:08.679 --> 00:18:14.600 Luke about sunscreen how many times I didn't know how long the walk was going 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:17.480 to be your mom's on my side for a change you know you know you know when we went 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:23.679 to Mexico mom lafrenier you know what 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:27.360 happened he didn't bring any sunscreen 00:18:23.679 --> 00:18:29.720 at all he asked me to buy him a tube of 00:18:27.360 --> 00:18:33.880 sunscreen after he' already been burned which by the way is not how sunscreen 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:39.440 works as you well know and then he didn't pay me back for 00:18:35.760 --> 00:18:39.440 it my 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:45.080 God I didn't really remember the story then he said he didn't pay me back for 00:18:43.280 --> 00:18:51.960 it and I was like yeah it's probably true oh my gosh well the good thing 00:18:48.840 --> 00:18:55.280 about this is lonus he is now your 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:59.679 problem whoa whoa hold 00:18:55.280 --> 00:19:03.559 on that's a big step we just shook hands 00:18:59.679 --> 00:19:06.559 I I not I'm not signing any 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:08.240 documents taking legal custody of this 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:15.799 guy getting adopted when you're in your like mid 20s heck yeah all right any 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:15.799 more Burns lus and it's on 00:19:16.360 --> 00:19:26.480 you I I can't I can't she just 00:19:21.120 --> 00:19:28.720 leave wow hangs up even when I agree 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:33.880 with your mom she still finds a way to to burn me even when we're on the same 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:37.159 team maybe not as bad as maybe not as bad as I got burned yeah not as bad as 00:19:35.320 --> 00:19:42.559 you got burned but yeah it was it was a fun trip they have like a they have a 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:48.799 multiple five versus 5 gaming lounges in their Studios they have uh uh a bar of 00:19:45.919 --> 00:19:53.760 course they open bar on Fridays of course they at least for the team that I 00:19:51.120 --> 00:19:57.640 was talking to they're like time policy they have unlimited vacation they show 00:19:55.640 --> 00:20:01.120 up anytime they want before lunch is served at twitch I don't know the exact 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:05.360 time that that is it's not noon but it's like whenever it's served at twitch and 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:09.720 uh yeah so when am I getting your two weeks 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:13.320 notice no no no I I think I'm going to 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:15.159 St I get a month at least a month yeah 00:20:13.320 --> 00:20:20.840 yes well that's okay I can train up a new Luke in that time no problem no 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:26.559 problem at all yeah it was a fun trip though yeah pretty cool 00:20:23.080 --> 00:20:31.400 okay um so let's move on to our first 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:33.640 topic this is is actually like okay 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:40.960 little spicy so here's the thing you know you go hang around you know SLG or 00:20:38.159 --> 00:20:46.360 whatever and you'll find you'll find plenty of hate for Intel and their 00:20:44.120 --> 00:20:50.320 business practices and their Communications and you'll find hate for 00:20:49.360 --> 00:20:59.200 anything Intel um but for the most part for the last 00:20:56.760 --> 00:21:07.960 you know yeah eight or so years when they haven't really had 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:11.520 a real competitor um Intel has put on a 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:13.760 very good and it's up to you the 00:21:11.520 --> 00:21:19.640 individual viewer to pick your next word this is like a Choose Your Own Adventure 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:22.320 book okay you can decide whether it's um 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:29.159 whether it's having a a pretty professional uh uh uh image or a pretty 00:21:26.159 --> 00:21:31.279 professional facade it's up to you I 00:21:29.159 --> 00:21:36.240 don't care but for the most part they've been fairly professional and fairly 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:39.279 dignified in their corporate 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:42.279 Communications and their slide decks in 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:43.400 their presentations to Partners and to 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:50.159 the Press so this was originally posted by 00:21:46.159 --> 00:21:53.360 Finn Hulk fist on the Forum Finn Hulk 00:21:50.159 --> 00:21:56.679 fist I love that name any any Nordic 00:21:53.360 --> 00:21:59.159 names are just freaking awesome Hulk 00:21:56.679 --> 00:22:05.080 fist Nordic name oper cannot possibly go wrong is to have a 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:07.320 name like Hulk vist um and the original 00:22:05.080 --> 00:22:13.320 I thought it was lit just Hulk fist oh no I was like I don't think that's a 00:22:09.760 --> 00:22:16.440 yeah no okay I got you um so 00:22:13.320 --> 00:22:19.159 Intel this is just unbelievable so 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:27.000 posted by tech power up here in an official slide deck posted the following 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:34.080 okay first of all there's some some debate in the 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:38.000 industry as to um a couple of things 00:22:34.080 --> 00:22:41.200 number one as to how exactly Intel is 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:45.880 deriving these smt numbers so so that's 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:47.960 Intel's uh hyperthreading TM and amds 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:53.080 what what are they calling it I I don't I can't remember whatever something 00:22:49.600 --> 00:22:55.520 something else but smt okay so um 00:22:53.080 --> 00:22:59.000 symmetrical multi multi threading y so where you take one core and you feed it 00:22:57.320 --> 00:23:01.880 a couple of threads so it can process both of them more efficiently than if it 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:07.760 had just processed one thread in the first place okay so it's unclear a 00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:12.120 couple things number one how exactly they derive these numbers because they 00:23:09.360 --> 00:23:16.400 don't necessarily align with what all the sort of tech media are seeing and 00:23:13.919 --> 00:23:21.000 number two whether this is an applicable comparison in the first place because 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:25.600 Intel's basically taken a Zeon 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:29.279 6134 and they have run clock for clock 00:23:25.600 --> 00:23:31.320 against a ryzen 7 desktop chip with 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:35.600 the clear argument being that this is a close analog because these are both 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:43.840 eight core 16 thread processors running at 2.2 gigz now to be clear 00:23:40.320 --> 00:23:46.200 probably that comparison works fine 00:23:43.840 --> 00:23:52.240 because contrary to what the people who got really confused by mine and Luke's 00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:54.799 discussion about Vega Frontier Edition 00:23:52.240 --> 00:24:01.000 contrary to what those people think architecturally Hardware wise oh yeah 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:03.480 the consumer grade stuff is often not 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:08.600 materially different from the Enterprise grade stuff sometimes you'll see better 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:13.400 binning a longer warranty you'll see more functional units enabled or you'll 00:24:10.360 --> 00:24:14.919 see some some Flags enabled for features 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:18.880 that were turned off in order to artificially differentiate them that's 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:24.799 where most of the difference comes from so fundamentally Intel's comparison here 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:29.880 may not actually be that far off Hardware Hardware wise but that doesn't 00:24:27.520 --> 00:24:34.399 change that there are other questions here as well what's the 00:24:32.360 --> 00:24:38.279 Baseline uh that's one thing I really hate about these graphs single thre so 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:43.360 that's the other thing you don't know is single thread I guess so improvement 00:24:41.520 --> 00:24:47.039 over Intel single thread improvement over AMD single I guess don't say 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:52.520 anywhere well there's more information on slide 20 to 21 okay so that's that's 00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:56.720 fine honestly the negative 13% is just like what that's not well there are 00:24:54.679 --> 00:25:00.399 situations where hyperthreading as well does result in a performance lost right 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:04.679 but I don't think we've seen that on ryzen we haven't but that specific 00:25:02.679 --> 00:25:08.679 workload that who knows how Cherry Picked or not Cherry Picked it is 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:12.559 honestly that's not the thing that bothered me that much it's not that 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:16.720 unusual whether it's AMD Intel or NVIDIA to include some basic performance 00:25:14.760 --> 00:25:22.960 comparisons when they're trying to make their product look good in a slide deck 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:26.360 this one is one of the ones that blew me 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:29.159 away where Intel basically gave 00:25:26.360 --> 00:25:33.760 themselves a check mark for robust 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:37.159 ecosystem Decades of investment in software optimizations and validation 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:40.320 easier application de deployment for customers and some of the stuff on here 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:46.039 is just like 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:53.600 um okay hold on a second uh like hold on what okay so yeah 00:25:51.600 --> 00:25:56.960 hold on hold on okay I'm trying to find something just totally stupid there were 00:25:55.440 --> 00:26:01.679 there were a couple that were that were really dumb like where gigabytes on here 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:11.440 somewhere like what what software optimization are you doing with Gigabyte 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:13.159 on your new server chip that AMD doesn't 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:20.120 here it is so here's here's like Gigabyte on here because freaking or 00:26:16.120 --> 00:26:24.399 something so then AMD doesn't get 00:26:20.120 --> 00:26:26.600 Gigabyte on their list of Partners right 00:26:24.399 --> 00:26:30.480 not even Gigabyte literally none who I'm pretty sure that AMD works with question 00:26:28.679 --> 00:26:38.080 mark we didn't look into it not even super micro okay who I'm pretty sure 00:26:33.679 --> 00:26:41.760 that AMD is working with on their uh 00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:45.600 Naples product and by pretty sure I mean 00:26:41.760 --> 00:26:48.080 you can you can bet on that um and the 00:26:45.600 --> 00:26:51.760 list goes on and on I'm sure AMD has talked to 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:55.799 Microsoft okay I'm pretty sure that conversation is going going on right now 00:26:54.279 --> 00:27:02.120 so they basically go ex they they take this quote 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:03.880 totally out of context expect software 00:27:02.120 --> 00:27:10.000 optimizations needed for Naples just like ryzen which is fair but what Intel 00:27:07.399 --> 00:27:17.360 ignores is that when they launch a new architecture software optimizations are 00:27:13.320 --> 00:27:19.760 needed it is it is not even newsworthy 00:27:17.360 --> 00:27:26.120 whether it's Intel or AMD for there to be an aatom I believe is the singular of 00:27:23.080 --> 00:27:28.279 irasa okay RAM okay so some kind of 00:27:26.120 --> 00:27:33.200 weird bug where the CPU needs updated micro code and needs maybe even a driver 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:38.360 fix in order to fix some kind of a weird Hardware bug that that stuff happens to 00:27:35.919 --> 00:27:42.200 both of them and basically they're going to go they they've turned that into 00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:46.679 AMD's ryzen CPU gaming perform oh yeah okay so they took so they took another 00:27:43.919 --> 00:27:50.399 quote totally out of context ryzen CPU gaming performance inhibited by lack of 00:27:48.760 --> 00:27:56.000 optimization so they're basically saying look software not optimized for their 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:59.840 four die peret implementation likely a multi-year investment effort to develop 00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:09.440 optimizing inv validate an ecosystem that is is taking a nugget of 00:28:04.919 --> 00:28:13.039 Truth and blowing it up into a movie 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:15.440 theater room filled with 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:19.880 popcorn and a nugget is not even a kernel that's how far off we are random 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:24.360 little tidbit I can't verify this because I I can't find them but 00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:29.200 apparently there's two Hitachi hitachi's just listed twice oh seriously which is 00:28:26.919 --> 00:28:33.360 just kind of funny here's Itachi hold on here we go okay where's the other one so 00:28:30.600 --> 00:28:39.039 here's a Hitachi and here's a Hitachi so Intel works with Hitachi so much that 00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:43.519 they Hitachi while they Hitachi so they can Hitachi while they Hitachi that yo 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:46.679 dog they're they're that hardcore on Hitachi I mean for all I know there's 00:28:45.399 --> 00:28:51.600 multiples that are in there twice because I don't think anyone looked that closely at this slide no I don't think 00:28:49.840 --> 00:28:54.720 legal looked at this slide or maybe maybe they did but they were just like 00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:59.120 yeah I don't really understand oh no no I thought IBM was in there twice but no 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:03.720 yeah all right okay and you know what's the craziest part is this is that that's 00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:07.840 not even where this ends no like that's not even the super hardcore part this 00:29:05.360 --> 00:29:14.120 isn't no in my opinion no no this gets worse and once 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:16.240 again in these black and white terms 00:29:14.120 --> 00:29:24.120 okay okay oh Intel yes yes yes no no no no no 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:28.440 no this is like you know you know when you go to one of those like it's usually 00:29:26.360 --> 00:29:31.880 slightly ghetto websites and they'll be like this is our product whole bunch of 00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:37.480 check marks usually it's for like a video ripping software or right this is 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:40.640 their product no check marks they suck and sometimes it's on nicer stuff but 00:29:39.080 --> 00:29:44.320 usually it's a little bit more granular and they'll actually show like yeah 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:49.080 their software does this thing but we do more of these things whatever but 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:56.640 usually it's the dignified way to do it whereas like the janky software way is 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:58.640 like has three red pixels in the bottom 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:03.440 corner yes doesn't 00:29:59.960 --> 00:30:06.000 doesn't so here me so so let's go let's 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:09.960 go let's go back to this uh and I'm taking this out here because we got we 00:30:07.159 --> 00:30:15.760 got to look at the slide proven system performance and 00:30:12.760 --> 00:30:19.640 Innovation inconsistent performance from 00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:23.559 four glued together desktop dies do I 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:26.159 detect that Intel is neither blue nor 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:29.919 red but perhaps a little green right now 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:37.120 about Infinity fabric wow because it's not glued 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:41.159 together and and do I detect some nearly 00:30:37.120 --> 00:30:46.200 decade Old Salt right now from back when 00:30:41.159 --> 00:30:49.960 AMD was crapping on Intel for gluing 00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:53.760 together single core processors which by 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:56.120 the way Intel was super doing back when 00:30:53.760 --> 00:31:02.919 they released the Pentium D series um compar compared to AMD's 00:30:59.639 --> 00:31:07.159 architected dual core design do I detect 00:31:02.919 --> 00:31:09.880 some salt here because a modular a 00:31:07.159 --> 00:31:19.080 modular Core Design is not the same thing as taking your single core product 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:19.080 and slapping two dyes onto a 00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:25.440 package okay let's carry on next point 00:31:22.399 --> 00:31:28.080 architected for the data center which 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:33.559 has nothing to do with inconsistent Supply nothing at all and and poor track 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:37.840 record now you can go after AMD for having a bit of a poor track record over 00:31:35.320 --> 00:31:42.799 the last little while sure I don't think that AMD's supply for opteron has been 00:31:41.080 --> 00:31:49.240 the problem I just don't think anyone's wanted it for a while so basically Intel 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:51.519 is taking irrelevant unrelated points 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:56.480 and saying and we're architected for the data center which has nothing to do with 00:31:53.200 --> 00:32:00.039 those other things we said also Naples 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:03.120 is super architected for the data center 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:06.679 okay AMD epic may have a silly gamery 00:32:03.120 --> 00:32:09.240 name and it does yeah but that changes 00:32:06.679 --> 00:32:16.039 nothing about the way that infinti fabric and the way that they built this 00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:18.720 architecture for Mondo PCI Express Lanes 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:22.919 which is super a big deal for the data center right now absolutely is that has 00:32:21.080 --> 00:32:28.559 nothing to do with the way that this product was designed for massive amounts 00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:32.880 of memory and massive numbers of connected devices via 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:39.840 PCI Express okay carrying on robust software 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:45.519 and Hardware we're go we're going after that again we're going after the ecos 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:47.679 lack of ecosystem they have no ecosystem 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:50.960 none at all it doesn't exist you can't you can buy the chip you can't put it in 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:55.679 anything there's no software for it there's no compatible hardware for 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:58.399 here's the problem with this hard sales 00:32:55.679 --> 00:33:02.120 pitch in this deck right now if if Intel had come out and 00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:06.799 said look we've got a more mature ecosystem that's way more reasonable 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:13.159 we've been supporting the data center for the last 5 years in a way that AMD 00:33:10.600 --> 00:33:19.080 has just been completely out of the game for we understand our customers better 00:33:16.639 --> 00:33:23.679 than AMD coming in as practically an outsider is in a position to do right 00:33:21.320 --> 00:33:27.080 now you know what the weird i' have gone okay the people who hate Intel are going 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:32.080 to hate this because they can find something to hate in anything that Intel 00:33:28.639 --> 00:33:35.000 does but I can accept that this slide I 00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:38.120 cannot accept this slide specifically feels like some person you know how you 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:44.039 know how every once in a while you'll see like Intel slides and it's obviously not a real Intel slide it feels like 00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:48.880 some random dude on YouTube was like I have memes Intel's attacking AMD and 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:54.600 just like threw this slide together in five minutes this is dank memes this is 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:57.480 dank memes level yeah um and the the 00:33:54.600 --> 00:34:02.840 show is not even over like the show is not not over there's but wait there's 00:34:01.080 --> 00:34:09.200 more oh look at these look at these arrows 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:15.119 this is good bad this is like a lesson in how to not do PowerPoint it's like 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:21.760 the clickbait version of business marketing right fully integrated all 00:34:18.919 --> 00:34:26.720 capital letters big Arrow yeah here's zons oh oh by the way uh hold on a 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:31.480 second okay yeah here's the way that all the cash communic Ates and we're just 00:34:29.560 --> 00:34:36.280 kind of ignoring right now the way that all these cores are interconnected 00:34:33.720 --> 00:34:44.520 because um in some okay now I'm not the the the Uber 00:34:41.879 --> 00:34:49.079 architecturally you know yes I understand I'm intentionally speaking in 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:55.720 a non grammatically correct fashion right now because CPU low-level C CPU 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.960 architecture is not a strong point for 00:34:55.720 --> 00:35:03.079 me I do lean on more technical people like Dr cutus over at Anon to explain 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:09.079 this stuff to me sometimes but to represent your CPU architecture as fully 00:35:06.720 --> 00:35:15.200 integrated as though there aren't internal interconnects and internal 00:35:11.160 --> 00:35:19.760 bottlenecks on a many core Intel Zeon is 00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:22.040 not a fair representation of exactly how 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:27.040 that works and they're saying here single die implementation maximizes 00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:29.000 performance and in some cases that may 00:35:27.040 --> 00:35:35.119 affect performance positively compared to AMD's approach but to call AMD's 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:38.320 approach which by the way these coherent 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:41.240 links matter and the way that every set 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:46.640 of Zen cores so there's eight per module here the way that every set of Zen cores 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:54.079 has a coherent link against every single other one freaking matters notice the 00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:54.079 cross links in the middle that 00:35:54.760 --> 00:36:02.800 matters and they they dro the glued together again glued together is not a 00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:05.040 fair representation of what AMD is doing over 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:14.760 there unbelievable rough um so it it kind it kind of 00:36:12.839 --> 00:36:20.119 actually goes on and on but I feel like we've spent a long time on this topic 00:36:17.560 --> 00:36:28.480 and the the point is this is beneath 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:31.240 Intel this is not an appropriate 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:38.680 dignified way for them to respond they don't have to like even if 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:43.680 it like we've seen this before it's not like AMD has never blindsided Intel with 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:48.079 an architecturally and price to Performance 00:36:46.560 --> 00:36:57.000 Superior product Athlon 64 and first generation 00:36:52.280 --> 00:37:01.240 opteron came in and kicked ass in a way 00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:04.440 that Zen actually doesn't like Zen is 00:37:01.240 --> 00:37:07.839 competitive but not not as crazy as like 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:11.319 yeah yeah but it's not like AMD came out 00:37:07.839 --> 00:37:13.040 of absolutely nowhere and took the 00:37:11.319 --> 00:37:21.119 performance crown and even when AMD had the 00:37:16.720 --> 00:37:25.079 performance Crown it took a long time 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:27.319 outside of the Enthusiast space and the 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:33.560 and actually I mean on server it it kind of went better than on the desktop but 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:36.160 it took a long time for AMD to claw back 00:37:33.560 --> 00:37:42.640 significant enough market share that Intel couldn't launch Core 2 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.480 Duo and basically crap all over 00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:49.240 everything AMD had achieved in a very short period of time from a business 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:53.160 standpoint not from a an industry disruption and and moving all of us 00:37:51.680 --> 00:37:58.079 forward standpoint I mean they brought us 64-bit on the 00:37:55.640 --> 00:38:04.800 desktop um so the fact that Intel is is reacting in 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:07.720 this kneejerk undignified fashion it 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:12.960 doesn't make business sense it doesn't make company image sense it might not 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:17.400 even make legal sense yeah that's a little rough the glued Together part is 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:23.839 like specifically an issue 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:28.720 so basically come on 00:38:23.839 --> 00:38:33.359 guys sup uh about that time oh oh yeah 00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:38.000 right um speaking of sup you know what 00:38:33.359 --> 00:38:40.240 sup uh oh oh cool we haven't done a 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:45.040 comic Bento spot in a long time uh yeah we have oh you did one get wrecked oh 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:51.760 all right well whatever it'll be fun for me yeah so comic Bento is your original 00:38:49.359 --> 00:38:58.400 comic book subscription box with at least a $50 value in each box every box 00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.880 comes with four to five graphic novels 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:07.560 and it's 25 bucks a month or less depending on your plan selection there 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:09.760 are monthly themes and this one is old 00:39:07.560 --> 00:39:13.200 school which is pretty cool there's there's Avengers 4 I'm not going to go 00:39:11.839 --> 00:39:18.599 into like are you ruining what I'm about to unbox did you just do did you just do 00:39:16.680 --> 00:39:26.000 what I thought you did there's not avengers definitely uh right it's the 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:28.640 top one it's the top one on the box of 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:33.119 course it is that's okay because that means you can't spoil that much of the 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:36.920 surprise for me yeah yeah that would have been pretty obvious comes with a 00:39:34.520 --> 00:39:43.760 cardboard backing so your precious graphic novels will not be uh bent 00:39:41.560 --> 00:39:48.760 unnecessarily all right cool a classic feeling team updated for 00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:53.319 a modern reading experience wow these are actually really nicely printed too 00:39:50.200 --> 00:39:56.800 yeah they often are cool what else we 00:39:53.319 --> 00:39:58.160 got in here Captain Victory I have to 00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:04.640 confess I am freaking not familiar with Captain 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:06.040 Victory neither am I very cool next up 00:40:04.640 --> 00:40:11.000 we've got sovere one thing that I do like about 00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:15.240 these is they often try to come in with one that you recognize right and then 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:18.560 filter in some other ones that look super cool but you might not 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yours you can often buy yourself an 00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:59.440 iFixit Tech toolkit and for an hour or two of your time you can basically have 00:44:56.559 --> 00:45:02.559 your tool kit covered with the money that you would have spent paying 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:06.160 somebody else to do a very basic repair honestly one of my favorite things about 00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:10.400 it is before this I had like a few different screwdrivers yep and like they 00:45:08.839 --> 00:45:13.559 did different screwdrivers would have differ size bits with them and stuff and 00:45:12.359 --> 00:45:18.359 now I just grabb one thing and you'd always be running around looking for 00:45:15.520 --> 00:45:23.599 that one yeah all right so this was posted originally by Valentine on the 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:27.079 Forum and nonte is the original article 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:31.000 here we've got a lot more details about 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:34.559 Threadripper as well as ryzen 3 so the 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:37.079 Threadripper 1920x and 1950x are going 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:41.800 to be 12 and 16 core processors they are freaking huge that is a real human hand 00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:46.160 for scale and they're going to cost $799 and 00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:49.760 $9.99 AMD has basically come right in 00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:51.040 and said nope this stuff doesn't cost 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:58.160 that much PNG the pricing 00:45:53.880 --> 00:46:01.040 for Wow Skylake X is is now looking a 00:45:58.160 --> 00:46:05.359 little bit out of whack I mean it remains to be seen exactly how well they 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:13.720 perform but we know clock speeds the 1950x will apparently have a base clock 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:17.680 of 3.4 GHz and a boost of 4 GHz 00:46:13.720 --> 00:46:21.680 wow that is not freaking bad on that 00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:24.319 many threads it's got a TDP of 180 Watts 00:46:21.680 --> 00:46:30.359 that's fun though but I don't even care if ryzen is anything to go by it looks 00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:35.599 like we might get a proper Tim so a proper thermal interface material which 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.920 will help to dissipate that heat and 00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:42.160 because it is such a large I don't want to say chip because 00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:47.319 that doesn't matter because the overall die area under the spreader is so large 00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:51.480 we're going to see coolers that are optimized to have heat pipes across as 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:58.040 many of those processing cores as possible and it should be potentially 00:46:54.480 --> 00:47:01.079 easier to manage also assuming that AMD 00:46:58.040 --> 00:47:02.839 doesn't Rush the ecosystem too much 00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:09.960 hopefully we won't run into any problems with the boards but all of that remains 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:12.680 to be seen and you know combined with um 00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:18.200 combined with Intel's wos on x299 right now is further validation for all the 00:47:16.040 --> 00:47:23.800 people criticizing me for moving our editors over to 00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:27.000 x99 shortly before the x299 launch 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:29.760 that's why I do it because in much that 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:36.800 and it's it has nothing to do with bias it's not AMD Intel NVIDIA I don't give a 00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:39.119 crap if it's Mission critical I am not 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:41.960 running you go one gen old then you have all the BIOS updates you have tons of 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:49.599 different chipset updates you have so much different and I might run it if it's one machine but I'm not going to go 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:54.040 and invest an entire workstation change 00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:55.480 out in something that maybe it's good or 00:47:54.040 --> 00:47:59.920 maybe I'm going to find out that that board that I put in there had has some 00:47:58.040 --> 00:48:04.280 silly bug and needs to be recalled or whatever when that would be thoroughly 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:08.400 covered on forums Everywhere by that time buying a year old board that's 00:48:06.200 --> 00:48:11.280 right I can just buy something that's based on the it's like the same 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.720 basically the same board as what we've been running on our test benches for the last you know year and a half speaking 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:23.599 of things you can do with this though are you going to go back to X Gamers one 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:25.760 CPU um not with Threadripper probably 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:30.200 okay uh but if we can get something going with Epic 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:35.599 okay I would love to do something very interesting with epic and you could even 00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:38.440 be like genuinely won this time actually 00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:44.920 yeah yeah yeah we could because a lot of people roasted lonus cuz it had two CPUs 00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:46.839 in it it was supposed to be a play on 00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:52.040 two girls one cup I know what it was supposed to be but I'm saying either way 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:55.119 I'm I don't really mind it that much I thought the joke was funny I I thought 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:58.599 the joke was funny everything's cool I'm just saying you could actually do it 00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:01.839 time he is kind of a suck up isn't he John was right no get out of here I 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:06.480 don't even care I don't want you here anymore I'm hosting a show by myself I'm 00:49:04.040 --> 00:49:11.599 still in the frame I could just talk louder for days 00:49:09.040 --> 00:49:17.160 ow all right next topic sky like X mess explored I guess 00:49:14.520 --> 00:49:23.200 it's my my my turn to throw it throw it Intel oh jeez it's kind of a rough day 00:49:20.160 --> 00:49:25.599 hey so far Skylake X has been plagued by 00:49:23.200 --> 00:49:29.559 two main issues at its stock settings it can barely be cool 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:33.799 uh oh your thing's in the way oh no sorry during normal operation this is 00:49:32.359 --> 00:49:39.319 due to its power consumption being extremely high in some situations we 00:49:35.799 --> 00:49:41.640 also found that the 00:49:39.319 --> 00:49:45.640 uh there's a huge cooling issue with the board but I don't VM vrm yeah the vrms 00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:50.680 had a huge cooling issue that was a couple weeks ago um there's barely any 00:49:48.200 --> 00:49:55.200 room for enthusiasts to overclock also many motherboards limit Skylake X CPUs 00:49:53.240 --> 00:50:02.720 further due to poor design choices like I just mentioned such as sufficient vrm 00:49:57.720 --> 00:50:05.160 cooling so this may be this may be the 00:50:02.720 --> 00:50:11.440 dawn of the motherboard um full cover block oh hey 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:16.480 so that's like that's been a thing yeah but it's never really made sense because 00:50:13.680 --> 00:50:21.920 so going back um going back to like the early 2000s it was pretty common place 00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:27.960 for motherboards to have little whiny annoying fans on them and then right 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:32.640 around the time of like I guess uh 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:35.760 enforce enforce 3 or enforce 4 what what 00:50:32.640 --> 00:50:38.720 was the a8n 32 SLI 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:41.480 Deluxe slide Deluxe I can't remember what chipset that was I want to say 00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:48.040 enforce 4 okay so that's an a832 SLI Deluxe 00:50:45.799 --> 00:50:54.880 terrible image but you get the point so we did away with noisy um Northbridge 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:58.160 and especially Southbridge coolers cuz they have to keep it low profile uh 00:50:56.720 --> 00:51:03.079 because you can install cards here right this SLI existed at the time um and we 00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:07.400 did away with that and we moved towards this heat pipes that lie flat on the 00:51:05.240 --> 00:51:13.480 board and carry all the heat up around the CPU socket area with the assumption 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:15.559 that either you're going to have an air 00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:20.079 cooler sitting on your CPU that's going to generate enough passive air flow to 00:51:17.160 --> 00:51:25.119 deal with the vrms here and here as well as the heat from the South Bridge and 00:51:21.359 --> 00:51:28.319 the North Bridge which end up here so 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:31.799 that Paradigm has us pretty much until 00:51:28.319 --> 00:51:34.640 now we might be returning to active 00:51:31.799 --> 00:51:39.559 cooling on vrms if there's no other way to deal with this and honestly what this 00:51:37.640 --> 00:51:45.920 kind of looks like to me is like Intel has said that like hey that we have a 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:47.319 plan for the roll out of core I9 so 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:52.839 we're going to do this here this here and it has to do with CPU yields it has to do with that honestly I wonder if 00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:56.359 part of it has to do with that they just like actually on the engineering side 00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:59.880 have no idea how they're going to launch this and they're just trying to buy some time 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:05.480 I could see it I this will be interesting because this going to be pretty much the first time ever that I 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:10.160 will see a motherboard full cover block and be like yeah good call that makes 00:52:07.720 --> 00:52:14.760 sense yeah yeah cuz in the past it's looked really cool but it's been like 00:52:12.160 --> 00:52:18.400 okay that's an excessively expensive PC probably because of a showcase and it 00:52:16.720 --> 00:52:21.680 probably makes no sense in terms of actually anyone ever doing this but it 00:52:20.160 --> 00:52:27.200 looks cool for whatever brand wanted to show it off like sure why not but this 00:52:25.040 --> 00:52:30.720 that'll be pretty cool it'll be interesting having people like actually 00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:36.240 ask questions about full cover blocks I know right um all right what else we've got 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:41.559 for topic I just have to I just have to pause the show for a second uh Timmy 00:52:38.799 --> 00:52:45.400 val1 123 in the twitch chat just said an all capital letters I just wanted to 00:52:43.240 --> 00:52:50.119 make sure that I re-echo this I have a boyfriend and I just wanted to make sure 00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:54.680 it's apparently extremely important that you have one no or that Timmy does that 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:59.839 Timmy does hey you know what Timmy congrats okay good job all right 00:52:56.799 --> 00:53:03.599 Facebook plans to unveil a 00:52:59.839 --> 00:53:07.119 $200 now we've heard that before yeah 00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:09.200 yeah Wireless that's new Oculus VR 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:13.880 headset in 2018 the whole twitch chat is like 00:53:11.359 --> 00:53:19.680 congrats timy oh man um yeah I mean that's cool 00:53:17.720 --> 00:53:24.359 uh code name Pacific if anyone's looking to buy an Oculus Rift it's designed and 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:31.440 this is going to terrify you to bridge the gap between cheap smartphone mounted 00:53:26.799 --> 00:53:34.040 VR headsets and high-end gaming 00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:39.640 ones oh it does not need to be Tethered to a 00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:44.240 PC or a phone it will ship next year and represent an entirely new category the 00:53:42.319 --> 00:53:47.440 device hold on just hold it in for now the device resembles a more compact 00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:51.079 version of the rift and will be lighter than Samsung's gear VR headset the idea 00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:56.480 is that someone will be able to pull the headset out of their bag and watch movies on a flight just the way you can 00:53:53.640 --> 00:54:00.760 now with a phone or tablet watch movies hold it hold it in the new headset will 00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:04.400 have a similar interface to gear VR and can be controlled via wireless remote 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:08.839 they plan to power the product with a Snapdragon mobile chip from qualcom and 00:54:07.040 --> 00:54:12.559 its gaming power will be superior to that of the gear VR but unlike the 00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:18.079 powerful Rift device and it will not include positional tracking 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:22.000 technology they plan to begin briefing content makers on the device by 00:54:20.040 --> 00:54:25.319 October and it will have a download store oh the download store will be 00:54:23.839 --> 00:54:28.359 Rewritten and accessible from a virtual reality interface 00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:31.440 um 00:54:31.839 --> 00:54:35.720 and go so they gave 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:43.480 up like is is that it is that all that I 00:54:41.319 --> 00:54:48.000 have to say Oculus just gave up they're just like yeah screw it vr's done we're 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:51.440 out of here uh we have lots of Facebook money that's fine no one's buying 00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:54.760 headsets cuz they're overpriced and not very good right now so we're just going 00:54:52.720 --> 00:54:58.440 to stop developing those and we'll just make a phone that's built into the 00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:01.839 headsets you can't take the phone out and uh there you go you could just buy 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:05.760 this one that you can just slip this device that you literally always effing 00:55:03.799 --> 00:55:09.160 carry on you in the front of it and it'll just work and that would be 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:12.720 totally fine and it doesn't cost that much but no it's going to be ever so 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:18.160 slightly faster and you can watch movies on the plane wow cuz you can't already 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:22.160 do that on your phone or like the screen that's built into the freaking chair in 00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:26.319 front of you it's going to suck word that I'm not going to say in 00:55:24.640 --> 00:55:31.760 terms of performance and that's a huge huge issue right now VR applications for 00:55:28.720 --> 00:55:33.920 desktop your desktop computer is usually 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:37.920 not fast enough to run really really high fidelity really really high quality 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:42.200 games it's a little bit of an issue it's a little bit hard to do it's possible 00:55:39.680 --> 00:55:46.280 but it's difficult and then the headsets that you have right now for desktop 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:49.920 tethered like the Vive and the current Rift don't have good enough screens 00:55:48.680 --> 00:55:55.000 don't have good enough a lot of other kind of stuff to be at the minimum quality that consumers expect and 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:58.400 they're way too freaking expensive so you release a dedicated 200 $100 device 00:55:57.319 --> 00:56:03.160 which no one's going to really want to buy because they can just slip their thing into a Daydream or whatever which 00:56:01.200 --> 00:56:07.520 should be a lot cheaper and probably will be now that this launches not to 00:56:05.680 --> 00:56:12.079 mention that stuff like this already has existed I literally carried I was 00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:19.559 literally the product manager for viix back at ncx Sony has one yeah like Sony 00:56:17.200 --> 00:56:24.119 professionally has a movie viewer designed for are you ready to chill out 00:56:21.720 --> 00:56:27.760 a little bit cuz I withheld one key piece of information from you oh God I'm 00:56:25.839 --> 00:56:31.640 like very angry and disappointed but Facebook has also said it's working on a 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:36.319 prototype device named Santa Cruz that is basically a wireless Rift with the 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:40.760 full power of the original device sans's PC actually that's not going to make you 00:56:38.200 --> 00:56:45.799 any less mad probably sans's PC but without a 00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:47.119 PC wait what okay sorry I I thought they 00:56:45.799 --> 00:56:52.599 were just talking about Wireless Rift I didn't read the last two words okay I don't understand how that makes any 00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:54.280 sense either so basically so you need a 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:58.400 backpack or something so basically it's it's a porn device now yes 00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:02.760 and you can watch porn on a plane they gave up like I've I've mentioned on like 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:07.799 two Wan shows recently I've gotten some Flack for it but it is a thing um it's 00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:12.920 not all of the posts but there's a notably increased amount compared to 00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:18.160 quite a few months back if you go to like the Oculus subreddit of posts that 00:57:15.200 --> 00:57:22.680 are just about porn and you know what you want to look at porn on your device 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:26.920 go for it I don't care I don't give a crap at all but what these things are 00:57:25.359 --> 00:57:31.160 really supposed to be doing in the long run is like really really interesting 00:57:29.680 --> 00:57:37.200 entertainment mediums not watching movies on a plane I'm talking about like 00:57:33.720 --> 00:57:39.880 virtual things look hold on picture this 00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:45.079 oh God virtual big screen just killed him a little bit 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:47.599 inside I think every time hold on get 00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:54.520 this simulated theater experience this is so bad it is so bad I don't 00:57:51.680 --> 00:57:58.839 understand it's so bad but there's such interesting 00:57:57.200 --> 00:58:04.480 experiences that you can do and such interesting experiences that you can have if you come to LTX I'll try to show 00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:09.760 you some of them there's specific uh uh servos is a specific VR game development 00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:13.640 company that is making very good and very interesting things uh raw data and 00:58:12.680 --> 00:58:18.760 I don't remember the name of their new one but it's a running one and it's racing and it's actually really cool you 00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:23.119 race against each other and you can like you have to run around but it's kind of 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:27.640 like skis I finally got Arizona Sunshine Arizona Sunshine's pretty cool um 00:58:25.359 --> 00:58:30.400 there's a robo recall is like amazing like there's really really good 00:58:28.839 --> 00:58:36.000 experiences that you can have but the device was supposed to be a different price than it was by a lot because 00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:41.160 there's a huge cost in the computer already and it's way too expensive 00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:46.960 pissed off this was really fun okay why don't we talk about something a little 00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:49.400 lighter well it's a little heavy the KFC 00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:52.559 phone it's the only thing about KFC that could be light at all this might make 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:57.599 more sense than that stupid thing that huawei's special edition KFC smartphone 00:58:55.280 --> 00:59:03.599 for China someone someone sorry someone in the chat just said man cares too much 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:06.720 I do I really want VR to work and I just 00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:08.039 I feel I I feel like they're just doing 00:59:06.720 --> 00:59:13.440 like clearly the wrong things they'll make it work it's just going to be like 00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:16.000 kind of lame mainstream VR for like a 00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:20.720 long time a long time and like that Gap I was talking to was it Rubio Jeff Rubio 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:25.880 I could have the name wrong but the guy from Naughty Dog that now works for 00:59:22.720 --> 00:59:26.839 Oculus um and he he gave a timeline and 00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:31.520 I was like you know what that makes sense and I think it was something about something around 3 years from when I had 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:35.880 that meeting and you can line up that meeting because that lined up with uh a 00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:40.680 Counter-Strike tournament where I made a video about watching the Counter-Strike 00:59:37.720 --> 00:59:47.039 tournament with the Vive right um I don't think that's going to happen 00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:52.280 anymore so another news um it's to celebrate KFC's 30th Anniversary within 00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:56.760 the country of China okay the KFC edition of the Huawei enjoy 7 plus was 00:59:54.960 --> 01:00:01.039 unveiled by the restaurant chain via its official weebo page in addition to a 00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:04.920 snazzy red finish and a picture of the colel on the back of the device the 01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:09.680 smartphone comes pre-loaded with the K music app which allows you to play music 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:13.760 over the speaker system installed in KFC restaurants what which definitely 01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:18.480 wouldn't get annoying really really really fast for everybody else and won't 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:24.119 be eliminated entirely almost immediately only 5,000 of SM will be 01:00:21.640 --> 01:00:29.839 produced preapproved music that you can put through it I guess so and there 01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:31.359 other weird KFC things so um oh no never 01:00:29.839 --> 01:00:34.920 mind these are just other weird KFC things um they had a takeout box that 01:00:33.640 --> 01:00:39.680 apparently doubled as a smartphone charger and a facial recognition scanner 01:00:37.200 --> 01:00:44.799 in conjunction with search giant BYU B whatever to help offer meal suggestions 01:00:42.359 --> 01:00:48.760 oh boy like basic I guess it just looks for how many chins you have and decides 01:00:46.839 --> 01:00:53.599 how many pieces of chicken you need like is that how that would 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:59.599 work I wonder how difficult it would be to do get like machine learning to like 01:00:56.720 --> 01:01:03.520 analyze faces that would actually be fascinating if you could how accurate it 01:01:01.640 --> 01:01:08.599 would be if you could try and figure out would be very because KFC unlike 01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:12.760 somewhere okay so let's take A&W actually A&W in the states is very 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:17.760 different from up here so this none of this might make any sense um but let's 01:01:14.520 --> 01:01:19.760 take A&W you can be like a MOAB Burger 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:24.160 person or you can be a teen Burger person and there would be nothing you 01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:27.920 could know or like a chubby chicken burger these are all sort of equ 01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:35.280 but they taste different um whereas at 01:01:31.799 --> 01:01:36.680 KFC there's chicken and there's less 01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:40.359 chicken and there's more chicken it's like a bucket of chicken there's like a 01:01:38.520 --> 01:01:44.680 little tiny box of chicken or a small box of bucket of chicken like or a 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:50.240 trough of chicken like it's it's all about chicken I would be curious to know 01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:57.960 if you could just entered like a picture of yourself and like of your house and 01:01:54.240 --> 01:01:59.559 of your and enter your BMI if it could 01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:07.799 tell you what you were planning to order at KFC that would be a very interesting 01:02:04.200 --> 01:02:09.240 study um just in like in like how humans 01:02:07.799 --> 01:02:15.480 do thing and like psychology and it would just be a very very interesting 01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:15.480 study I would read 01:02:16.319 --> 01:02:21.720 it okay H the OnePlus 5 display is 01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:27.240 upside down so this was posted by nerd Slayer on the Forum 01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:28.640 oops confirmed the jelly scrolling 01:02:27.240 --> 01:02:33.160 effect which honestly I didn't even notice it is amazing the kinds of things 01:02:30.799 --> 01:02:39.000 like like well it's it's stupid because like I'll be able to tell the difference 01:02:34.640 --> 01:02:41.440 between like 72 and 60 HZ on a display 01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:46.680 yeah if I'm playing a game or something and people be like who cares whereas 01:02:43.799 --> 01:02:50.160 like I look at like a phone and I'm like there's a slight kind of rebounding 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:54.079 effect when you scroll and they're calling it the uh the jelly jelly 01:02:51.960 --> 01:03:01.160 scrolling effect or something like that and apparently it is C caused by 01:02:58.279 --> 01:03:05.920 OnePlus moving the motherboard and hence flipping the display panel in order to 01:03:03.160 --> 01:03:13.119 accommodate their new dual lens camera module so they consciously rearrange the 01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:15.279 internals and then are using a a 01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:19.839 normally only used for Diagnostics but they actually used this so they used a 01:03:17.520 --> 01:03:26.520 field that you can that exists in Android where you can flip the display 01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:27.799 180 degrees yeah um 01:03:26.520 --> 01:03:33.160 in order to account for this rearrangement that's 01:03:30.720 --> 01:03:39.559 so weird and so what users did was they manually changed other devices to be 01:03:36.240 --> 01:03:41.160 upside down and the jelly scrolling 01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:46.279 effect appeared on them now what I'd like to know because obviously if you 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:49.279 hold a display like this that doesn't have an upside down display installation 01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:53.279 and go like this or you hold it like this and go like this it doesn't matter 01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:57.480 so what I want to know is if this is just a matter of a simple optimization 01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:03.400 that could be done in software it feels like it would be 01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:06.079 um so we'll we'll see we'll 01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:11.039 see uh the Google pixel 2 design was leaked this was posted by Mr Chow 1991 01:04:08.799 --> 01:04:16.319 0319 on the Forum and the original article here is from Android police 01:04:13.799 --> 01:04:21.000 apparently it will be made by LG this time rather than 01:04:18.240 --> 01:04:26.440 HTC um and this is apparently the pixel XL with a low bezel AMOLED display and a 01:04:24.160 --> 01:04:32.880 squeezable frame HTC won't be the only one with a 01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:34.799 squeezable frame neat I um guess that's 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:38.960 cool it's one of those things that like I've never really asked for why do you 01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:44.599 what what what's the benefit you can have it do stuff okay 01:04:41.640 --> 01:04:48.920 yeah um 6-in AMOLED display with round corners glass window on the back is 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:53.279 smaller this time fingerprint reader no longer inside of it but below it no 01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:56.039 visible antenna bands it's believed it will have a squeezable frame okay so 01:04:54.640 --> 01:05:00.359 that's pretty much all we know none of that sounds super important to me um 01:04:58.839 --> 01:05:03.079 there's things that I care a lot more about on the pixel 2 than any of that 01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:09.160 information so I think we'll have to wait Logitech is on a roll here with 01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:12.920 Acquisitions this was posted by dasin on the Forum the original article here is 01:05:10.520 --> 01:05:17.359 from CNET apparently or I could just use the uh press release that they sent me 01:05:15.319 --> 01:05:22.240 autoplay no bo so there there there won't be like a gaming headset industry 01:05:20.359 --> 01:05:27.640 eventually cuz it'll just be Logitech heads Raz and Razer that's fair who else 01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:27.640 exist 01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:35.559 Turtle Beach is sort of still kicking around like on the console side I think 01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:39.599 okay I don't understand quite how but I didn't understand why Astro had a right 01:05:37.640 --> 01:05:44.520 to exist either I mean to be clear apparently the A40 is great um the only 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:47.920 one I ever reviewed was the A50 and it was terrible i' I've never had a good 01:05:46.799 --> 01:05:52.559 experience with them it was an abominable value and that was compared 01:05:50.359 --> 01:05:57.359 to wireless headphones that or headsets that existed back then and to my 01:05:55.799 --> 01:06:04.240 knowledge I I don't think they've updated it so they bought Ultimate Ears 01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:06.160 they bought jbird they Acquired scitec 01:06:04.240 --> 01:06:10.359 and they've been doing great things I I haven't seen what they've done with scitec yet have they released anything I 01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:16.599 don't know if they've done much with scitec um but basically Logitech kind of 01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:22.440 went well we're an engineering company we're just going to embrace that 01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:24.559 and screw it we're just going to buy 01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:28.000 Brands it's been working so far the Ultimate Ears one espe 01:06:26.680 --> 01:06:32.440 I'm interested to see what they do with scitech cuz I love that kind of stuff 01:06:29.680 --> 01:06:39.279 but yeah yeah meanwhile Razer is running around buying THX and phone maker next 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:44.359 bit so apparently the deal will close in early August and uh yeah basically I I 01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:51.920 didn't even read any of Logitech statements about it because this is fairly transparent yeah Logitech 01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:54.240 couldn't figure out why the hell anyone 01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:59.799 was using Astro gaming headsets which is valid so they went okay well I don't 01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:06.760 want to deal with this anymore and bought them which is valid 01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:10.880 yeah so some of the Astro gaming branding especially from way back in the 01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:15.279 day was really sick like I remember they had at packs they were giving away an 01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:19.760 astro gaming shirt and it was like by far the coolest one at the event and 01:07:17.640 --> 01:07:24.039 like they had a really cool booth and they partnered with really cool people 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:28.559 so I could understand how if like you're just woful ignorant in terms of headsets 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:31.319 and you're like I went to this cool event and they had cool stuff I'm going 01:07:30.200 --> 01:07:35.839 to tell my friends and we're all going to buy them you know what I mean 01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:40.440 especially before like reviews on that kind of stuff was a big thing and easily 01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:45.039 accessible lately though I don't know how they're still 01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:48.760 around I don't know man apparently this 01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:50.680 is great so uh apparently Logitech is 01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:57.279 taking in and if if it ain't broke don't fix it approach 01:07:53.520 --> 01:08:01.000 here and the as and Logitech G Brands 01:07:57.279 --> 01:08:03.160 will keep separate teams and 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:07.039 um basically they're saying we don't just want to jam a new product down your 01:08:04.520 --> 01:08:11.640 throats every year just because we can so that's the nice way of saying if you 01:08:09.680 --> 01:08:17.040 guys like this trash then we'll just keep making it for you I guess as far as 01:08:14.319 --> 01:08:23.159 I can tell wow cuz there's no doubt that logitech's engineering knows a lot more 01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:25.199 about engineering than Astro's 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:28.759 engineering Astro might be able to help them make make it so the headsets don't 01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:33.000 fall off people's heads okay that's fair that would be good that's fair want a 01:08:30.400 --> 01:08:38.080 little update there yeah that's fair but then Logitech also could have just like 01:08:35.080 --> 01:08:39.839 gone and bought a hyperx cloud and 01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:44.359 disassembled it if they wanted to understand how that works 01:08:41.480 --> 01:08:48.199 yeah all right so on that note thank you for watching The W show we will see you 01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:51.880 guys again next week same bat Time same bat channel do you want to do a short 01:08:49.679 --> 01:08:56.560 Afterparty stream we can sure let's do it yeah bye 01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:16.960 people are calling me lonus lame tips wow why I have never been called 01:09:14.080 --> 01:09:20.480 something that offensive in my life look at this how do they do this like how do 01:09:18.759 --> 01:09:24.359 you screw this up it's unbelievable the easiest thing 01:09:22.759 --> 01:09:29.400 in the world would be to use the same file this one's see this one's right 01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:33.759 sort of except the faces why did they change I don't know