{"video_id":"ey8_59TzrS4","title":"I get giddy just looking at it - Ubiquiti Cloud Key Enterprise","channel":"ShortCircuit","show":"ShortCircuit","published_at":"2024-05-04T14:58:16Z","duration_s":513,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":5.44,"text":"If there's one thing Ubiquiti is known for, it's Wi-Fi, specifically making really fast,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.44,"end_s":10.4,"text":"high-density Wi-Fi in a form factor that's relatively affordable, at least when you put it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.4,"end_s":17.52,"text":"in the scope of the crazy expensive enterprise solutions of today. Contrary to that is this,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":18.16,"end_s":23.84,"text":"Ubiquiti's new Cloud Key Enterprise. This, as far as I can tell, is the single most expensive","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":23.84,"end_s":31.6,"text":"Ubiquiti product at a whopping 5,000 US dollars. Can you see me here? The set wasn't exactly built","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":31.6,"end_s":37.84,"text":"for items this large. We've got rails. Yep, this is rack-mountable. We've got two power cables.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":38.56,"end_s":45.44,"text":"More on that later. Oh my god. That's heavy. Here's a little size comparison. We've got a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":45.44,"end_s":52.0,"text":"normal Cloud Key Gen 2, and we've got a Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus. It's a little bit bigger.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":52.96,"end_s":57.6,"text":"I don't know if it's really fair to call this thing a key anymore. This is the president's key.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":57.6,"end_s":61.44,"text":"Unlocks all of the locks in the kingdom. With the fascia off on the front here,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":61.44,"end_s":66.32,"text":"we've got a standard 1.3-inch Ubiquiti LCM, which is the little screen they have on the front.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":66.32,"end_s":72.88,"text":"We've got a 1GIG RJ45 port, and they've also got a 10GIG SFP port. Now, I talked to the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":72.88,"end_s":78.08,"text":"Ubiquiti folks and asked them, really? Is this thing ever going to pull 10GIG? But as I expected,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":78.08,"end_s":83.52,"text":"it's more so just because this is designed to be put in a very large or enterprise deployment,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":83.52,"end_s":86.96,"text":"and you're probably going to want to plug this thing in with fiber. And if you just had an RJ45,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":86.96,"end_s":91.28,"text":"it would be kind of annoying. Around the back, that's a dedicated management port,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":91.28,"end_s":96.0,"text":"something we have not seen on a Unify class product. And then on this side,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":96.0,"end_s":102.24,"text":"we've got another thing I'm super stoked about, two removable, redundant, normal-ass AC power","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":102.24,"end_s":110.0,"text":"supplies. You know, on a $1,500 switch, like, say, the Enterprise XG24 or the Enterprise 48 PoE,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":110.0,"end_s":114.48,"text":"those should have these. And I really hope that this is where the future is headed for Ubiquiti.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":114.48,"end_s":117.52,"text":"You can get replacement power supplies for the Cloud King Enterprise","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":117.52,"end_s":121.28,"text":"from support, and they are working on adding them to the store, which is great.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":121.84,"end_s":125.6,"text":"Did they put wheels on this thing? Holy s***, they put wheels on the thing.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":125.6,"end_s":130.88,"text":"It slides so nice! Look at that! I'm an adult, okay? I can do what I want.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":130.88,"end_s":135.28,"text":"Got my handy-dandy custom screwdriver I built at LTX. You can at least get","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":135.28,"end_s":140.4,"text":"a solid color now on LTX Store. Realistically, you're probably never going to open this thing.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":140.4,"end_s":145.6,"text":"I'm a little surprised! Like, I knew it was just going to be a server. I just didn't expect it to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":145.6,"end_s":150.8,"text":"be so kind of off the shelf. You see that right there? What the heck is that? That's an SFP.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":150.8,"end_s":155.12,"text":"And for the uninitiated, that SFP is the front 10-gig port, so this is just like an internal","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":155.12,"end_s":159.04,"text":"pass-through. I'm going to take this off for sure. Look at that. It's literally just","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":159.04,"end_s":167.28,"text":"a dual-port SFP 10-gig card. This is a pushy thing. It's a release. Holy s***. That's smart.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":168.0,"end_s":173.68,"text":"And also easily serviceable. They're using high-quality components. So for your $5,000,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":173.68,"end_s":178.24,"text":"you're not getting like no-name RAM. It's actually a Samsung DDR4 stick of memory.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":178.24,"end_s":182.96,"text":"Kingston SATA SSD over here is, well, it's a Kingston SSD. I mean, it's an OEM one,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":182.96,"end_s":188.24,"text":"but it's not, you know, no-name brand, whatever. Oh, look at that! You see that right there?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":188.24,"end_s":193.36,"text":"It's an IPMI BMC chip, like you would see in a server. Or maybe when you connect to this","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":193.36,"end_s":197.28,"text":"management port, it's just giving you like a standard IPMI interface. Being able to like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":197.28,"end_s":202.96,"text":"remotely power cycle this thing would be sick and something I've had to do on my cloud keys,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":202.96,"end_s":210.48,"text":"but couldn't because it was remote. Now, speaking of CPU, this is a 16-core Xeon SP5218.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":210.48,"end_s":216.16,"text":"The MSRP of this chip is around $1,500. And now that I've seen that it's basically an OEM","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":216.16,"end_s":220.8,"text":"server with the UniFi software on it, you know, there's two sticks of DDR4, there's a CPU,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":220.8,"end_s":226.48,"text":"there's a CPU cooler, there's the motherboard, all the fans, the two power supplies, the dual 10-gig","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":226.48,"end_s":232.96,"text":"NIC. Well, that $5,000 price point starts to make a little bit more sense. I mean, at least $1,500","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":232.96,"end_s":237.28,"text":"of it is the CPU. I guess I should put this thing back together and try it out. We are gonna need!","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":247.04,"end_s":251.52,"text":"If I was gonna adopt all of this stuff on a computer, I'd need to connect to it,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":251.52,"end_s":257.52,"text":"but it's a lot easier to do on a phone because this has Bluetooth. So if we go to the UniFi app,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":257.52,"end_s":263.84,"text":"look at that! Wow! The pretty animation. Cloud Key Enterprise. I'm gonna call it,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":264.4,"end_s":270.4,"text":"I don't, I feel like a key is disingenuous now, so I'm gonna call it the Cloud Thicky Enterprise.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":270.4,"end_s":274.56,"text":"Okay, all of our devices are detected. Great, I didn't break anything. So it needs an update.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":274.56,"end_s":278.96,"text":"In theory though, this should update like a lot faster. I mean, on a Cloud Key,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":278.96,"end_s":284.16,"text":"usually it takes a couple minutes to stop, update, turn back on, figure this stuff out.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":284.16,"end_s":288.32,"text":"Okay, that was definitely faster. Maybe the update wasn't super noticeably faster,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":288.32,"end_s":293.68,"text":"but once UniFi OS was loaded, the network app went from starting to started in like a second.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":294.24,"end_s":298.8,"text":"Just, it just seems way more responsive. But I mean, that responsiveness is nice. I mean,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":298.8,"end_s":302.48,"text":"we use a Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus like this, which has the same CPU as the small one,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":302.48,"end_s":308.32,"text":"just with a bit more RAM, with around 100 UniFi devices. So that switches and access points,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":308.32,"end_s":314.48,"text":"and around 300 to 700 clients, depending on the time of day. And you can tell sometimes when the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":314.48,"end_s":320.72,"text":"Cloud Key is like, you apply a switch configuration change, and it might take 10 seconds or 15","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":320.72,"end_s":326.16,"text":"seconds or maybe a minute to actually propagate. So having a lot more compute, just in terms of the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":326.16,"end_s":330.8,"text":"responsiveness would be nice. And it's something I've desired for in the past. We're definitely","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":331.36,"end_s":338.16,"text":"going to deploy this. What does Ubiquiti IPMI look like? Look at that! Just that it's a totally","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":338.16,"end_s":344.96,"text":"normal IPMI. Health is good. We've got postcode logs, which is great. I mean, this is all pretty","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":344.96,"end_s":351.36,"text":"standard stuff for IPMI. Holy s***, there's a KVM. No way. No way! In theory, you can do anything you","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":351.36,"end_s":356.72,"text":"want in here. But you probably shouldn't. I wouldn't mess around with this, but it is helpful to see","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":357.2,"end_s":361.44,"text":"at least what the system is doing. These are the kind of enterprise features that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":361.44,"end_s":370.16,"text":"something like this needs. If I run a speed test now, we should see the speed test traffic. 500","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":370.16,"end_s":376.96,"text":"megabit. Look at that. Down. 600. Ooh! Yeah, there's some new insights. The Wi-Fi insights are","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":376.96,"end_s":383.6,"text":"definitely new. They've got a coverage helper tool that just shows you all of the signal strength","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":383.6,"end_s":387.92,"text":"of your various devices to tell you if your AP density is good enough. They've got this connectivity","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":387.92,"end_s":391.92,"text":"thing that shows you problematic clients. You can see an environment scan that shows all of the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":391.92,"end_s":397.36,"text":"nearby access points and the channels they're using. It's pretty much all I would expect to see.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":397.36,"end_s":402.24,"text":"I'd really like to see SNMP so you could monitor this machine a little easier. But in terms of","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":402.24,"end_s":407.44,"text":"being able to access the things you would want to access in an IPM, power controls, virtual KVM,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":407.44,"end_s":412.96,"text":"serial over land, and manual network settings, it's pretty much there. I can even test latency.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":412.96,"end_s":417.92,"text":"Here we go. There you go. So you can see that this is to this phone in my hand right now. Oh,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":417.92,"end_s":425.2,"text":"what if I want to see maybe my laptops paying? Click on the laptop, test latency. There you go.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":425.84,"end_s":430.24,"text":"Super handy if somebody is like, I'm having Wi-Fi issues. You can just kind of go and do a sanity","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":430.24,"end_s":436.88,"text":"check. I mean, overall, it works pretty much the same as any other cloud key. It seems far more","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":436.88,"end_s":443.12,"text":"serviceable. It's got redundant power supplies. It has actual IPMI. I can see somebody that has","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":443.12,"end_s":448.16,"text":"all of these devices, has a bunch of sites, having just one giant cloud key instead of a bunch of","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":448.16,"end_s":453.52,"text":"little ones can be very attractive. It does seem to me, however, that maybe they should make a cloud","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":453.52,"end_s":460.4,"text":"key enterprise-ish or a cloud key enterprise plus NVR, maybe just like a normal ATX board size,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":460.4,"end_s":465.68,"text":"just one gig less money would be cool. Probably overkill for you and it certainly is for us,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":465.76,"end_s":470.64,"text":"but I'm going to put it in the rack anyways and I hope you guys like this video. So get subscribed.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":470.64,"end_s":474.32,"text":"Oh man, if you can take the software on this thing and put it on one of those mini forum necks,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":474.32,"end_s":478.0,"text":"I know you can get the Unify network app and install it, but it's not really the same as the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":478.0,"end_s":481.04,"text":"fully fledged Unify OS experience.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"If there's one thing Ubiquiti is known for, it's Wi-Fi, specifically making really fast, high-density Wi-Fi in a form factor that's relatively affordable, at least when you put it in the scope of the crazy expensive enterprise solutions of today. Contrary to that is this, Ubiquiti's new Cloud Key Enterprise. This, as far as I can tell, is the single most expensive Ubiquiti product at a whopping 5,000 US dollars. Can you see me here? The set wasn't exactly built for items this large. We've got rails. Yep, this is rack-mountable. We've got two power cables. More on that later. Oh my god. That's heavy. Here's a little size comparison. We've got a normal Cloud Key Gen 2, and we've got a Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus. It's a little bit bigger. I don't know if it's really fair to call this thing a key anymore. This is the president's key. Unlocks all of the locks in the kingdom. With the fascia off on the front here, we've got a standard 1.3-inch Ubiquiti LCM, which is the little screen they have on the front. We've got a 1GIG RJ45 port, and they've also got a 10GIG SFP port. Now, I talked to the Ubiquiti folks and asked them, really? Is this thing ever going to pull 10GIG? But as I expected, it's more so just because this is designed to be put in a very large or enterprise deployment, and you're probably going to want to plug this thing in with fiber. And if you just had an RJ45, it would be kind of annoying. Around the back, that's a dedicated management port, something we have not seen on a Unify class product. And then on this side, we've got another thing I'm super stoked about, two removable, redundant, normal-ass AC power supplies. You know, on a $1,500 switch, like, say, the Enterprise XG24 or the Enterprise 48 PoE, those should have these. And I really hope that this is where the future is headed for Ubiquiti. You can get replacement power supplies for the Cloud King Enterprise from support, and they are working on adding them to the store, which is great. Did they put wheels on this thing? Holy s***, they put wheels on the thing. It slides so nice! Look at that! I'm an adult, okay? I can do what I want. Got my handy-dandy custom screwdriver I built at LTX. You can at least get a solid color now on LTX Store. Realistically, you're probably never going to open this thing. I'm a little surprised! Like, I knew it was just going to be a server. I just didn't expect it to be so kind of off the shelf. You see that right there? What the heck is that? That's an SFP. And for the uninitiated, that SFP is the front 10-gig port, so this is just like an internal pass-through. I'm going to take this off for sure. Look at that. It's literally just a dual-port SFP 10-gig card. This is a pushy thing. It's a release. Holy s***. That's smart. And also easily serviceable. They're using high-quality components. So for your $5,000, you're not getting like no-name RAM. It's actually a Samsung DDR4 stick of memory. Kingston SATA SSD over here is, well, it's a Kingston SSD. I mean, it's an OEM one, but it's not, you know, no-name brand, whatever. Oh, look at that! You see that right there? It's an IPMI BMC chip, like you would see in a server. Or maybe when you connect to this management port, it's just giving you like a standard IPMI interface. Being able to like remotely power cycle this thing would be sick and something I've had to do on my cloud keys, but couldn't because it was remote. Now, speaking of CPU, this is a 16-core Xeon SP5218. The MSRP of this chip is around $1,500. And now that I've seen that it's basically an OEM server with the UniFi software on it, you know, there's two sticks of DDR4, there's a CPU, there's a CPU cooler, there's the motherboard, all the fans, the two power supplies, the dual 10-gig NIC. Well, that $5,000 price point starts to make a little bit more sense. I mean, at least $1,500 of it is the CPU. I guess I should put this thing back together and try it out. We are gonna need! If I was gonna adopt all of this stuff on a computer, I'd need to connect to it, but it's a lot easier to do on a phone because this has Bluetooth. So if we go to the UniFi app, look at that! Wow! The pretty animation. Cloud Key Enterprise. I'm gonna call it, I don't, I feel like a key is disingenuous now, so I'm gonna call it the Cloud Thicky Enterprise. Okay, all of our devices are detected. Great, I didn't break anything. So it needs an update. In theory though, this should update like a lot faster. I mean, on a Cloud Key, usually it takes a couple minutes to stop, update, turn back on, figure this stuff out. Okay, that was definitely faster. Maybe the update wasn't super noticeably faster, but once UniFi OS was loaded, the network app went from starting to started in like a second. Just, it just seems way more responsive. But I mean, that responsiveness is nice. I mean, we use a Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus like this, which has the same CPU as the small one, just with a bit more RAM, with around 100 UniFi devices. So that switches and access points, and around 300 to 700 clients, depending on the time of day. And you can tell sometimes when the Cloud Key is like, you apply a switch configuration change, and it might take 10 seconds or 15 seconds or maybe a minute to actually propagate. So having a lot more compute, just in terms of the responsiveness would be nice. And it's something I've desired for in the past. We're definitely going to deploy this. What does Ubiquiti IPMI look like? Look at that! Just that it's a totally normal IPMI. Health is good. We've got postcode logs, which is great. I mean, this is all pretty standard stuff for IPMI. Holy s***, there's a KVM. No way. No way! In theory, you can do anything you want in here. But you probably shouldn't. I wouldn't mess around with this, but it is helpful to see at least what the system is doing. These are the kind of enterprise features that something like this needs. If I run a speed test now, we should see the speed test traffic. 500 megabit. Look at that. Down. 600. Ooh! Yeah, there's some new insights. The Wi-Fi insights are definitely new. They've got a coverage helper tool that just shows you all of the signal strength of your various devices to tell you if your AP density is good enough. They've got this connectivity thing that shows you problematic clients. You can see an environment scan that shows all of the nearby access points and the channels they're using. It's pretty much all I would expect to see. I'd really like to see SNMP so you could monitor this machine a little easier. But in terms of being able to access the things you would want to access in an IPM, power controls, virtual KVM, serial over land, and manual network settings, it's pretty much there. I can even test latency. Here we go. There you go. So you can see that this is to this phone in my hand right now. Oh, what if I want to see maybe my laptops paying? Click on the laptop, test latency. There you go. Super handy if somebody is like, I'm having Wi-Fi issues. You can just kind of go and do a sanity check. I mean, overall, it works pretty much the same as any other cloud key. It seems far more serviceable. It's got redundant power supplies. It has actual IPMI. I can see somebody that has all of these devices, has a bunch of sites, having just one giant cloud key instead of a bunch of little ones can be very attractive. It does seem to me, however, that maybe they should make a cloud key enterprise-ish or a cloud key enterprise plus NVR, maybe just like a normal ATX board size, just one gig less money would be cool. Probably overkill for you and it certainly is for us, but I'm going to put it in the rack anyways and I hope you guys like this video. So get subscribed. Oh man, if you can take the software on this thing and put it on one of those mini forum necks, I know you can get the Unify network app and install it, but it's not really the same as the fully fledged Unify OS experience."}