we've waited 10 freaking years to get
the successor to the divisive steam
controller and now it's here the Hy pad
Wireless for steam is exactly the same
oh the touch pads aren't there well everything else is the oh the the
layout's different so what makes this a steam
controller I'm about to tell you inside the box we have a quick start guide in
Japanese uh we have our very light controller holy and our
dongle which surprisingly enough is not
a 2.4 gahz dongle it's a Bluetooth
dongle uh more on that later also inside
we have this 3 m long cable that's very
long for a device like this but that's because if you want to use this as an X
input controller you actually need to use it wired because this is strangely
enough a d input controller if you don't know what xinput and D input are X input
is the standard built around the Xbox 360 for interfacing with Xbox
controllers to PC games to make it very easy for developers to use D input has
mostly gone out of style it's out of a few controllers but it does support
gyroscope which is a big feature that is carried over from the original steam
controller let's take a look at the controller itself before we get too deep into this it's a pretty standard Xbox
looking layout with asymmetrical sticks face buttons d-pad but these extra
buttons that have steam specific specific functionality that we'll get to
we have our shoulder buttons and our triggers those feel bad wow I have not
use this controller before shooting this
video and this is shockingly both
uncomfortable because it's very straight edges and chap feeling it feels very
much like a 2003 controller where analog triggers weren't quite all the rage yet
where it's just a button press oh boy
all right let's continue the exploration I didn't want to react to the button
feel but it was so shockingly bad I had to on the back are some paddles those
feel okay they're a little bit mushy it feels pretty even across the whole
button and my fingers slide in quite nicely I think that the shape of it is
not bad at all it's very light which
gives at least the illusion of cheapness wow 182 G that's significantly lighter
than a lot of the controllers that I've unboxed on this channel and I think it
hurts the impression of this controller that there is no Rumble it just feels
very cheap in the hand combined with the really underwhelming triggers d-pad that
is uh wly crappy face buttons that are
fine I guess I like that they really stick out of the controller but I also
think that they just feel like a mushy mess oh these function buttons really
suck I actually missed two programmable buttons here these are fine they're like
clicky buttons I think that it is really poor placement like that you really have
to to commit to pressing this so it would not be a very good in-game
function to to assign yeah this is a
really poor feeling controller it's not
that the original steam controller felt particularly premium I like a lot of the
ideas they were going for but it has some of the worst build quality of a
mainstream controller maybe ever like the seams on this are so horrible so in
that sense the new one's better I don't like the little mini buttons on
this see feel about the same I'd say they're like similar ballpark of quality
I think this looks like a nicer package but it feels just as cheap in the hand
but at least it's not cutting into your palm on the sides Hy has a long history
of making controllers and for a long time they made some of the best third
party controllers I still have a PS1 controller that I love to use it's a
great great great controller I can already tell you now this is not going
to be a historic winner back to the back we have two toggles which change from a
digital style response on the triggers to an analog style the travel is so
short I don't really see a great purpose
in this I feel like there's not enough travel for it to be a good analog
trigger it kind of just is going to be a digital button press so for shooter
people out there that's fine shorter TR is desirable in a lot of ways for
everyone else it's going to be a really crappy one and on the other side we have a steam mode and an X input mode that
basically toggles it to being a Bluetooth controller to wired you might
find that some games work better with X input rather than D input pared through
Steam input so it's nice to have that capabilities but the fact that it's
wireless only through Bluetooth is a little bit puzzling in this day and age
especially when they include an adapter this is a Bluetooth adapter and
presumably we'll have to test it but you could connect other Bluetooth devices to
it so that's kind of a nice bonus cuz these things even the cheap ones cost 10
bucks so that's a cool little throwi in but what we've experienced is that
Bluetooth generally has worse input latency than proprietary 2.4 GHz dongles
and so I'm curious to see if I can sense the input latency issues but really I
think we should just try this on a computer and a steam deck after I tell
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annual plan today one of the killer features of this controller is that it
interfaces seamlessly with the steam deck that means that even though this is
plugged into your TV from across the room you can wake it from from sleep and
you can control other functionality luckily it also is very good in Steam
Big Picture Mode and that's a little easier for us to capture so we're going to show you this functionality on the PC
okay connecting this controller isn't as simple as a regular wireless controller
where there's a proprietary dongle you turn it on and it works you have to go through Microsoft's painfully annoying
Bluetooth pairing process I've had very
bad experience with controllers keeping them paired having to unpair them repair
them so I'm not super excited this is the experience you're going to have with
this controller it's nice that in the seam test you have all the extra buttons
that show up we haven't even talked about that let's do that right now by going into
Steam Big Picture I can detect the input latency
right now let's see what each of these buttons
does our steam button that brings up the main menu that's pretty cool but if you
pair a regular controller that has you know an Xbox button or something similar
uh it does the exact same thing so that's Nifty if you're having trouble
with that just disable the Xbox button in Windows and it'll work great in big
picture there's your Tech tip quick menu one quick menu two um let me out I want
to go home stop by way here you doing
this why can't I leave is this for real on the top right
we have our menu button which is going to bring up kind of game specific settings so if you want to uninstall a
game bottom right we have our quick settings on the top top left we have our
view button which doesn't seem to do anything but that makes sense it's give
me a more specific circumstance button and then we have our pairing button it's
cool I guess and I think if you were playing on a steam deck connected to a
TV that'd be really useful and I actually am using Steam Big Picture more
and more so I'm not against these buttons being here but I've never had an
issue with my apid do 2C just hitting the center button uh to access that or
assigning other buttons to that the other secret buttons on this controller
is like the steam deck the thumbsticks have little capacitive touch pads that
you can use to turn on and off gyro uh which is pretty nifty and I guess makes
this more of a steam friendly package I'm not a huge gyro aimer but I think in
the purpose of giving the best full impression of this controller I'll have
to mess around with that a little bit let's see if it's working seems a little
bit jittery but to be honest I don't have that much experience looking at
this screen in particular so I don't know if it's always this jittery
that's pretty stationary it's mostly me that's jittery then going into gam pad
tester you'll have to switch to X input in order to be able to actually test the
joysticks properly without just measuring based on the the numbers it
gives you let's test our
circularity whoa okay all
right not even consistent across the two sticks left stick's got an average eror
of 14.3 right stick's got an average of 19.1 not the worst I've ever seen but it
is weird that there's almost a 5%
difference across the two sticks you can see the corners are pushed very far
beyond the bounds that's pretty normal on cheap sticks but it's a little bit
underwhelming I would say Let's test our vibration ha just kidding there is none
why did they why did they skip on vibration it feels like such a stupid
thing to freaking skimp out on not happy
this is all theoretical testing let's see maybe in game this thing is really
awesome oh there should be software for this too right it is the right software
Horry pad for steam yes I am
connected shut the I'm connected but I
that shouldn't matter I'm connected that's really annoying I am connected to
this computer and you guys saw me do this testing so we know that it's
working but unless I switch all the way to X input it's not going to let me do
this or it's just not going to work this just really bad song software while this
is restarting this is clearly for a headphone jack that is not there and
that's just another disappointment piling up on a big pile of real
underwhelming controller this controller is connected to this computer cuz I can
control steam but uh the Hy software which we have confirmed is the correct
software is not detecting this controller to fa of them this is the
Japanese version of it and presumably the English speaking language software
uh so maybe there's some disc connect there but oh it connected can you come
over here and tell me if these sticks feel like they're different weights to you maybe the left is a little harder to
push that's how I felt too yeah but it's pretty subtle but it does feel a little
different yeah we've swapped over to xinput mode and it doesn't seem like we
have drift issues I'm not sure if it's carrying over that dead
zone there definitely is like a decent Siz Dead Zone it might be 30% so it
could be doing that or it does its own little calibration for X input that is
is a little bit better it's hard to tell either way it's a really imprecise stick
would not recommend for anything that you need Precision for this controller
would be fine if you're playing like a character action game I think the face
buttons feel uh acceptable and the build
quality is okay feels too cheap cuz it's light uh but none of the buttons feel
great the sticks are really imprecise these triggers suck at least it's really
cheap right it's $60 this thing is not a
cheap controller and in a world where there is excellent 30 to $50 controllers
it's really impossible to recommend this
controller even for its unique features that might be attractive if you really
really want gyro I would recommend jumping up to a Vader 4 it's a little
bit more expensive but it's an excellent controller and it's got good gyro there
is other options but finding one that does PC gyro for cheap is a little bit
harder but if you're looking for just an all around gaming controller apido 2C
baby that thing freaking rocks $30 uh and it gets you most of the
in-game functionality that this controller does minus gyro and the few
extra buttons but for a lot of people I don't think that's going to matter really disappointing cuz we've waited 10
years for the SQL to the steam controller and though this is not a
steam product they have put their name on this thing and it's a all around
disappointment steam do better Hy do
better everybody keep watching more short circuits that's what you want to
do why don't you check out our most recent unboxing of the Apex 4 uh a much
better controller that's more expensive but we offer some pretty good Alternatives right at the end