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we've waited 10 freaking years to get

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the successor to the divisive steam

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controller and now it's here the Hy pad

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Wireless for steam is exactly the same

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oh the touch pads aren't there well everything else is the oh the the

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layout's different so what makes this a steam

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controller I'm about to tell you inside the box we have a quick start guide in

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Japanese uh we have our very light controller holy and our

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dongle which surprisingly enough is not

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a 2.4 gahz dongle it's a Bluetooth

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dongle uh more on that later also inside

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we have this 3 m long cable that's very

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long for a device like this but that's because if you want to use this as an X

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input controller you actually need to use it wired because this is strangely

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enough a d input controller if you don't know what xinput and D input are X input

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is the standard built around the Xbox 360 for interfacing with Xbox

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controllers to PC games to make it very easy for developers to use D input has

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mostly gone out of style it's out of a few controllers but it does support

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gyroscope which is a big feature that is carried over from the original steam

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controller let's take a look at the controller itself before we get too deep into this it's a pretty standard Xbox

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looking layout with asymmetrical sticks face buttons d-pad but these extra

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buttons that have steam specific specific functionality that we'll get to

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we have our shoulder buttons and our triggers those feel bad wow I have not

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use this controller before shooting this

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video and this is shockingly both

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uncomfortable because it's very straight edges and chap feeling it feels very

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much like a 2003 controller where analog triggers weren't quite all the rage yet

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where it's just a button press oh boy

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all right let's continue the exploration I didn't want to react to the button

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feel but it was so shockingly bad I had to on the back are some paddles those

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feel okay they're a little bit mushy it feels pretty even across the whole

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button and my fingers slide in quite nicely I think that the shape of it is

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not bad at all it's very light which

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gives at least the illusion of cheapness wow 182 G that's significantly lighter

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than a lot of the controllers that I've unboxed on this channel and I think it

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hurts the impression of this controller that there is no Rumble it just feels

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very cheap in the hand combined with the really underwhelming triggers d-pad that

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is uh wly crappy face buttons that are

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fine I guess I like that they really stick out of the controller but I also

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think that they just feel like a mushy mess oh these function buttons really

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suck I actually missed two programmable buttons here these are fine they're like

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clicky buttons I think that it is really poor placement like that you really have

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to to commit to pressing this so it would not be a very good in-game

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function to to assign yeah this is a

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really poor feeling controller it's not

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that the original steam controller felt particularly premium I like a lot of the

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ideas they were going for but it has some of the worst build quality of a

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mainstream controller maybe ever like the seams on this are so horrible so in

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that sense the new one's better I don't like the little mini buttons on

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this see feel about the same I'd say they're like similar ballpark of quality

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I think this looks like a nicer package but it feels just as cheap in the hand

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but at least it's not cutting into your palm on the sides Hy has a long history

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of making controllers and for a long time they made some of the best third

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party controllers I still have a PS1 controller that I love to use it's a

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great great great controller I can already tell you now this is not going

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to be a historic winner back to the back we have two toggles which change from a

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digital style response on the triggers to an analog style the travel is so

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short I don't really see a great purpose

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in this I feel like there's not enough travel for it to be a good analog

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trigger it kind of just is going to be a digital button press so for shooter

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people out there that's fine shorter TR is desirable in a lot of ways for

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everyone else it's going to be a really crappy one and on the other side we have a steam mode and an X input mode that

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basically toggles it to being a Bluetooth controller to wired you might

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find that some games work better with X input rather than D input pared through

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Steam input so it's nice to have that capabilities but the fact that it's

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wireless only through Bluetooth is a little bit puzzling in this day and age

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especially when they include an adapter this is a Bluetooth adapter and

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presumably we'll have to test it but you could connect other Bluetooth devices to

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it so that's kind of a nice bonus cuz these things even the cheap ones cost 10

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bucks so that's a cool little throwi in but what we've experienced is that

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Bluetooth generally has worse input latency than proprietary 2.4 GHz dongles

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and so I'm curious to see if I can sense the input latency issues but really I

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think we should just try this on a computer and a steam deck after I tell

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annual plan today one of the killer features of this controller is that it

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interfaces seamlessly with the steam deck that means that even though this is

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plugged into your TV from across the room you can wake it from from sleep and

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you can control other functionality luckily it also is very good in Steam

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Big Picture Mode and that's a little easier for us to capture so we're going to show you this functionality on the PC

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okay connecting this controller isn't as simple as a regular wireless controller

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where there's a proprietary dongle you turn it on and it works you have to go through Microsoft's painfully annoying

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Bluetooth pairing process I've had very

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bad experience with controllers keeping them paired having to unpair them repair

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them so I'm not super excited this is the experience you're going to have with

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this controller it's nice that in the seam test you have all the extra buttons

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that show up we haven't even talked about that let's do that right now by going into

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Steam Big Picture I can detect the input latency

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right now let's see what each of these buttons

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does our steam button that brings up the main menu that's pretty cool but if you

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pair a regular controller that has you know an Xbox button or something similar

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uh it does the exact same thing so that's Nifty if you're having trouble

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with that just disable the Xbox button in Windows and it'll work great in big

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picture there's your Tech tip quick menu one quick menu two um let me out I want

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to go home stop by way here you doing

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this why can't I leave is this for real on the top right

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we have our menu button which is going to bring up kind of game specific settings so if you want to uninstall a

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game bottom right we have our quick settings on the top top left we have our

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view button which doesn't seem to do anything but that makes sense it's give

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me a more specific circumstance button and then we have our pairing button it's

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cool I guess and I think if you were playing on a steam deck connected to a

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TV that'd be really useful and I actually am using Steam Big Picture more

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and more so I'm not against these buttons being here but I've never had an

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issue with my apid do 2C just hitting the center button uh to access that or

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assigning other buttons to that the other secret buttons on this controller

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is like the steam deck the thumbsticks have little capacitive touch pads that

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you can use to turn on and off gyro uh which is pretty nifty and I guess makes

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this more of a steam friendly package I'm not a huge gyro aimer but I think in

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the purpose of giving the best full impression of this controller I'll have

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to mess around with that a little bit let's see if it's working seems a little

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bit jittery but to be honest I don't have that much experience looking at

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this screen in particular so I don't know if it's always this jittery

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that's pretty stationary it's mostly me that's jittery then going into gam pad

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tester you'll have to switch to X input in order to be able to actually test the

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joysticks properly without just measuring based on the the numbers it

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gives you let's test our

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circularity whoa okay all

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right not even consistent across the two sticks left stick's got an average eror

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of 14.3 right stick's got an average of 19.1 not the worst I've ever seen but it

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is weird that there's almost a 5%

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difference across the two sticks you can see the corners are pushed very far

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beyond the bounds that's pretty normal on cheap sticks but it's a little bit

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underwhelming I would say Let's test our vibration ha just kidding there is none

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why did they why did they skip on vibration it feels like such a stupid

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thing to freaking skimp out on not happy

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this is all theoretical testing let's see maybe in game this thing is really

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awesome oh there should be software for this too right it is the right software

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Horry pad for steam yes I am

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connected shut the I'm connected but I

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that shouldn't matter I'm connected that's really annoying I am connected to

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this computer and you guys saw me do this testing so we know that it's

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working but unless I switch all the way to X input it's not going to let me do

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this or it's just not going to work this just really bad song software while this

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is restarting this is clearly for a headphone jack that is not there and

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that's just another disappointment piling up on a big pile of real

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underwhelming controller this controller is connected to this computer cuz I can

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control steam but uh the Hy software which we have confirmed is the correct

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software is not detecting this controller to fa of them this is the

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Japanese version of it and presumably the English speaking language software

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uh so maybe there's some disc connect there but oh it connected can you come

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over here and tell me if these sticks feel like they're different weights to you maybe the left is a little harder to

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push that's how I felt too yeah but it's pretty subtle but it does feel a little

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different yeah we've swapped over to xinput mode and it doesn't seem like we

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have drift issues I'm not sure if it's carrying over that dead

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zone there definitely is like a decent Siz Dead Zone it might be 30% so it

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could be doing that or it does its own little calibration for X input that is

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is a little bit better it's hard to tell either way it's a really imprecise stick

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would not recommend for anything that you need Precision for this controller

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would be fine if you're playing like a character action game I think the face

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buttons feel uh acceptable and the build

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quality is okay feels too cheap cuz it's light uh but none of the buttons feel

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great the sticks are really imprecise these triggers suck at least it's really

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cheap right it's $60 this thing is not a

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cheap controller and in a world where there is excellent 30 to $50 controllers

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it's really impossible to recommend this

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controller even for its unique features that might be attractive if you really

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really want gyro I would recommend jumping up to a Vader 4 it's a little

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bit more expensive but it's an excellent controller and it's got good gyro there

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is other options but finding one that does PC gyro for cheap is a little bit

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harder but if you're looking for just an all around gaming controller apido 2C

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baby that thing freaking rocks $30 uh and it gets you most of the

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in-game functionality that this controller does minus gyro and the few

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extra buttons but for a lot of people I don't think that's going to matter really disappointing cuz we've waited 10

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years for the SQL to the steam controller and though this is not a

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steam product they have put their name on this thing and it's a all around

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disappointment steam do better Hy do

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better everybody keep watching more short circuits that's what you want to

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do why don't you check out our most recent unboxing of the Apex 4 uh a much

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better controller that's more expensive but we offer some pretty good Alternatives right at the end