WEBVTT 00:00:01.839 --> 00:00:07.120 all right it's when show time again and 00:00:05.680 --> 00:00:12.320 you guys may or may not have noticed there's something a little different 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:17.359 about the show today i know what it is 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:21.279 i'm screen sharing off a mac i'm using a mac oh no that's it isn't it 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:26.960 unsubbed i know right um so yeah we've got a couple special 00:00:25.279 --> 00:00:29.519 guests we've got jay's two cents from the youtube channel jay's two cents 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:34.640 there's pretty much no way you guys don't know who he is and 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:38.719 then we've got dimitri from hardware canucks who a lot of you will probably 00:00:37.360 --> 00:00:42.800 know who he is as well so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today 00:00:40.800 --> 00:00:48.800 uh what what are they oh yeah in unexpected news 00:00:46.239 --> 00:00:53.039 AMD's vega graphics cards are more expensive than msrp 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:56.559 oh my god who saw that coming more vegan news oh wait i've got okay you guys are 00:00:54.879 --> 00:01:00.960 all being sarcastic which is kind of a dick move okay this is not a sarcastic 00:00:58.879 --> 00:01:04.559 show no okay this is uh this is a forthright and clear 00:01:03.199 --> 00:01:08.000 communicative show sentences 00:01:08.080 --> 00:01:16.640 in other news Intel claims that the 8700k will be 00:01:12.080 --> 00:01:16.640 about 11 faster than the 7700k 00:01:16.960 --> 00:01:21.920 cool can we just not say anything if we're going to be not sarcastic you know what 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:25.040 if you guys aren't going to like you guys aren't going to do the show nicely 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:30.640 then you could just go actually you know what no i'm just gonna go 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:33.920 okay okay well after that we have probably 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:39.119 the intro no show's over this is the end 00:01:35.600 --> 00:01:40.130 this is the end of everything the end of 00:01:39.119 --> 00:01:43.200 we know days 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:48.880 you are the weakest like goodbye goodbye 00:01:46.240 --> 00:01:51.280 you are where'd you find that at the very bottom 00:01:50.399 --> 00:01:55.520 what what i was looking for it neither of us 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:58.399 could find it just for that but well for that that was in like one of your main 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:03.680 compartments neither of us could find it we were both looking for it yeah 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:09.200 good job nick magic hands magic hands 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:11.440 oops i clicked the wrong thing uh uh uh 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:17.280 okay back on the oh oh no terrible everything's terrible what are you doing 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:19.200 uh hold on hold on i got this uh uh okay 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:21.920 there and uh sponsors 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:26.640 what do you have there we go don't worry about it don't worry about the nascar hat there's 00:02:25.040 --> 00:02:31.200 reasons that will be revealed at another time yeah it has nothing to do with scrap yard 00:02:30.239 --> 00:02:35.680 wars or the closed toed shoes yeah 00:02:33.920 --> 00:02:38.720 not that these guys are here also has nothing to do yes nothing right we flew 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:43.120 in for a WAN Show only okay so actually 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:47.360 i think that's probably a great topic for us to start with uh guys 00:02:45.519 --> 00:02:52.160 get amped about the upcoming season of scrapyard of course it's probably not 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:57.360 going to be out for like six weeks to eight weeks 00:02:54.720 --> 00:03:01.120 like i'm talking first episode but it's our christmas present to you 00:02:59.200 --> 00:03:06.400 first on Floatplane and it'll be out first on Floatplane by that 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:10.560 by that time Floatplane nope let's not go with that Floatplane might not even 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:13.519 exist anymore for all we know who knows um 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:17.840 but uh what i will say i'm you know there's gonna be no spoilers on the show 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:23.040 today you guys but what i will say is a huge thank you to uh jay and dimitri for 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:27.440 flying all the way up here the pleasure was all ours yes thank you 00:03:24.959 --> 00:03:30.879 for the invite cool i'm uh yeah i was like we had a lot of fun so that's 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:34.239 that's the only spoiler i'll give you guys is it was a ton of fun 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:38.879 and uh yeah you know what that's it 00:03:36.239 --> 00:03:43.440 that's it so and now radio silence and don't even bother trying to get anything 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:48.560 out of these guys because they know the scrapyard wars code yeah say 00:03:46.239 --> 00:03:51.280 something and die i mean 00:03:49.920 --> 00:03:58.959 it's more like um what what is it uh 00:03:54.319 --> 00:04:00.560 a say um things say and a i day 00:03:58.959 --> 00:04:04.000 you know we'll go with the pig latin version of the code 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:07.439 but yeah i just like that we left it where it sits that's it in a nutshell 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:12.159 um all right so guys first uh first article 00:04:10.239 --> 00:04:16.720 today this was posted by stay ass on the forum and the original article here how 00:04:14.480 --> 00:04:21.840 do i click a link on a mac what the hell is this yes okay okay 00:04:19.440 --> 00:04:26.000 uh yeah no spoilers okay i just wanna now it works 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:30.240 don't just don't push it to the first brush oh pressure what why pressure i know 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:36.639 pressure and then i go i go to i go to use the touch screen to to zoom and it's like no 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:40.320 you'll have to do ah i want my computer back 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:45.759 okay anyway anyway um aib partners to gamers nexus this was 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:50.720 supposed to buy steve burke you know stephen right yeah you know stephen yeah okay 00:04:48.479 --> 00:04:55.759 uh gibbo was right about AMD price changing i like his hair 00:04:53.280 --> 00:05:01.600 AMD basically came out of the gate with vega 56 and vega 64 with and i think you 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:06.080 guys and your reviews probably agreed vega 64 looks 00:05:03.919 --> 00:05:09.520 okay other than being a couple years late because it's basically an 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:15.600 overclocked 980 ti and vega 56 looks pretty good it's the 00:05:13.039 --> 00:05:18.800 400 dollar king okay for compute anyway 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:23.840 okay so now 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:28.160 it looks like price of vega 64 was supposed to be 500 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:32.960 but quickly shot to 600 us dollars in the wake of 00:05:30.880 --> 00:05:38.960 immediate inventory selling out so is this actual msrp 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:41.919 and uh or is this just stores reacting 00:05:38.960 --> 00:05:41.919 i'm going with the latter 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:47.199 yeah let's see yeah cause we can't really blame them 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:52.000 for that so this is interesting apparently what does the website say AMD 00:05:49.280 --> 00:05:56.880 provided the top retailers and e-tailers with a 4.99 price on vegas 64 coupling 00:05:55.039 --> 00:06:01.440 sale of the card with a rebate to reduce spend by retailers 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:06.400 um so basically that's uh like it's usually called like a pos rebate a 00:06:03.440 --> 00:06:12.639 point-of-sale rebate apparently the rebate is already expiring 00:06:09.280 --> 00:06:14.880 hence the price jump by retailers 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:19.199 oh it was that fast yeah well see this is something that is kind of not public 00:06:17.280 --> 00:06:24.000 knowledge this is more and i'm sure i'm over like the statute 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:25.360 of limitations for my old job as a 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:28.720 product manager but it is um 00:06:29.039 --> 00:06:35.919 uh it is pretty tight to be an AMD partner 00:06:34.400 --> 00:06:39.600 i've gotten a lot of feedback in the industry over the years 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:43.680 being an NVIDIA add-in card partner i think they call 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:46.960 them aibs and i think AMD calls them aics adding card versus add-in board 00:06:46.080 --> 00:06:52.880 right being an NVIDIA partner versus an AMD 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:55.039 partner is supposedly a lot better 00:06:52.880 --> 00:07:00.960 now xfx you guys probably remember this yeah yeah uh when did they jump ship 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:04.960 uh AMD yeah like was it like four thousand six six thousand oh sorry uh 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:10.000 six thousand series oh no no it was four thousand series i think you're right so 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:13.759 it was like so that was when AMD looked 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:15.919 because they were competing against um 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:20.080 was that the 480 generation or had they just g was out then they just hadn't 00:07:17.919 --> 00:07:23.520 refreshed in forever basically 00:07:21.440 --> 00:07:26.720 they they turned tail on NVIDIA and they went to AMD 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:30.639 and um my understanding is that it's been 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:36.400 pretty rough over there is is all i can all i can really say but 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:41.919 what are your guys's thoughts on the pricing of vega 64 in particular 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:45.360 it looks like here having effectively been increased 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:49.599 i think it's only going to be beneficial for those that are using the compute performance honestly not as a gaming 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:55.280 card right because at that point it makes no sense now you're talking 1080ti 00:07:51.440 --> 00:07:55.280 pricing which dominates it in games 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:02.800 but at the exact same time not not in terms of making sense but AMD right now 00:07:59.919 --> 00:08:05.919 has a very aggressive very dedicated fan base 00:08:03.840 --> 00:08:09.520 that's true so it might not even matter my my concern with this though was that 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:12.720 that fan base is usually though attached to the performance per dollar aspect of 00:08:10.960 --> 00:08:17.520 being an AMD fan uh yeah but AMD has put a lot of work 00:08:14.960 --> 00:08:20.560 into making it a rebellious stance instead of just necessarily a 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:25.039 performance per dollar because they were definitely performance per dollar uh 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:28.639 like with the 3000 series Intel processors and 00:08:27.039 --> 00:08:32.240 like a couple generations back with like 200 series AMD graphics cards but more 00:08:31.280 --> 00:08:36.719 recently i feel like they've been shifting it i think the bigger question 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:40.080 you told me right though i think the bigger question here the one that 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:45.839 affects our audience and the one that affects us as reviewers more 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:47.839 is this artificial rebate 00:08:45.839 --> 00:08:52.160 that's only valid for i mean the card only launched what a week ago 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:57.120 so a rebate that they're putting on the card for a week to hit a price 00:08:55.040 --> 00:09:01.279 that isn't sustainable that affects your conclusion about the 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:05.200 card and yours and it's not like especially as youtubers it's not like we 00:09:03.760 --> 00:09:09.040 can go back and edit our article be like yeah the price 00:09:07.040 --> 00:09:12.000 to performance sucks donkey balls now and not not to flatter ourselves but 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:14.959 that's where a lot of research is happening right now is youtube 00:09:13.760 --> 00:09:19.519 especially for people that are getting new into computers and might not think 00:09:17.680 --> 00:09:23.200 to check a whole bunch of different sites like written sites that can be 00:09:21.040 --> 00:09:27.360 updated like gamers next this guy we just talked about him he might say in 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:30.640 his video pricing and stuff is in is on our website i've seen him say that 00:09:28.800 --> 00:09:35.279 before so that they can update it and that's cool but like for something like 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:39.120 uh like a a 490 feeling changes yeah like a like a budget graphics card where 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:46.399 they're going like we're the we're the new 499 or 399 king 399 king 00:09:43.680 --> 00:09:49.360 and then if we if our conclusion is check the link in the description for 00:09:47.760 --> 00:09:55.920 price for the most updated pricing on amazon but we say yeah AMD's positioned this 00:09:53.200 --> 00:10:00.880 card really well its performance looks great and the value is great 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.360 if it's a if it's 80 or 100 more expensive i feel like what they've done 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:07.519 is they've made NVIDIA feel like a more compelling 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:12.560 deal or budget at that point i mean because 1070 right competes against 56 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:16.640 and 56 was beating 1070 pretty much across the board but now you increase 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:20.000 that price why would i want a 56 unless i'm going compute i mean if i can use 00:10:18.079 --> 00:10:23.680 the compute aspect of it then yeah it dominates both of them dominate what 00:10:21.760 --> 00:10:26.640 NVIDIA has to offer but the question is how many of these buyers are actually 00:10:24.800 --> 00:10:31.040 buying them for compute or to be a part of that rebellion nation yeah 00:10:28.800 --> 00:10:34.560 also will this affect any of the bundle stuff that the AMD is 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:38.640 putting out right yeah it would have to so the bundles would have to go up by a hundred bucks too yeah 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.920 i feel like yeah the bundles would just go up and i don't think anything else would change i don't think the bundles 00:10:40.959 --> 00:10:47.839 are going to get anything the bundles were a terrible idea to begin with i just really don't like being screwed 00:10:45.920 --> 00:10:50.880 around with like this yeah i don't like being manipulated in a way where like 00:10:49.680 --> 00:10:55.279 there's there's a couple things and you know what it's one of those things where i'm not just gonna crap on AMD for this 00:10:53.600 --> 00:11:00.480 like you and i have talked about this offline i think i might have mentioned it to you but i was really really 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:06.880 displeased when NVIDIA had a separate unboxing embargo 00:11:04.800 --> 00:11:11.120 for the 1080 ti because you know what that is 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:11.120 that's NVIDIA saying 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:17.120 max do you need some help over there maybe no 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:21.360 what are we changing i don't know it looks tilted and i had to fix it okay 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:25.839 all right focus now i really would have just maybe 00:11:23.839 --> 00:11:30.959 left it also point it towards Linus a little bit more 00:11:28.800 --> 00:11:35.839 that's a bit okay okay let's just let's not touch it anymore okay 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:38.880 um hey thanks max okay what were we talking about again your time at the 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:42.959 unboxing right okay so there were a couple things wrong 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:46.480 with that number one was that paul had already done an unboxing at the event 00:11:44.880 --> 00:11:50.160 and that's nothing against yeah because why not super cool but i think they saw 00:11:48.640 --> 00:11:55.680 the traction that that sort of got and then they came up with the idea of like oh we better reel this in and you know 00:11:53.839 --> 00:11:59.200 put an embargo on this because what they're trying to get because 00:11:57.680 --> 00:12:03.839 that effectively what they're getting when they do a launch event we all 00:12:01.040 --> 00:12:08.560 accept it because it gives us access to talk to the developers of the product 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:13.120 right in a way that we don't get to on just a lot more helpful than a 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:16.639 conference call yeah so so we we all accept these events that they 00:12:14.880 --> 00:12:19.760 do because it's also an opportunity to network within the industry most of the 00:12:18.079 --> 00:12:24.560 time i've spent with you guys it has has been events industry events 00:12:22.079 --> 00:12:28.880 but what's really frustrating is that NVIDIA 00:12:26.800 --> 00:12:33.120 controls the narrative at that point because any news story and we have to do 00:12:30.959 --> 00:12:37.040 a news story because everybody else is going to do a new story so that's my 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:40.800 upload that day that's jay's upload that day that's dimitri's upload that day 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:43.760 that's other content that might be more meaningful because it's not just 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:48.240 regurgitating the same information everybody has that isn't going up 00:12:46.079 --> 00:12:51.839 because we're busy traveling for a day yeah spending it at an event and then 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:56.959 traveling back for another day we just spent one percent of our year 00:12:54.240 --> 00:13:00.240 on this event to make the same piece of content that everybody else is making 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:04.160 for me personally and they're okay they're nice yeah there can be some value to that 00:13:02.800 --> 00:13:08.880 because people might have different opinions or insights or ideas about how 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:12.800 something might be used blah blah blah but it's a lot it's a lot to put on one 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:16.160 item and when you have to do just an unboxing 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:20.160 it's a it's pretty unlikely that you'll have a lot of unique insights well not even 00:13:18.959 --> 00:13:26.079 that this is kind of off topic a little bit but then it goes as far as starting to 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:28.720 break down the information like you can get this piece of information we get 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:34.639 this piece later this piece tomorrow right the pricing issue that happened with 1080 ti which is a huge issue yeah 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:39.920 so what this looks like to me because NVIDIA is effectively getting marketing 00:13:37.680 --> 00:13:43.200 out of bringing people to this event they're just regurgitating whatever was 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:49.200 on NVIDIA slides because that's all the information we have so far we don't have 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.959 any benchmarks like how fast is the the 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:54.800 uber card 10 000 or whatever 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:59.440 so then there's that date let's say let's say march 1st for the sake of 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.839 argument then march 14th would be the 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:05.120 review embargo typically or yeah like they ever give us two weeks yeah yeah 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:09.760 maybe like march 8th would be the review embargo that gives us a week to get back 00:14:07.040 --> 00:14:13.600 home test it formulate our opinions and go okay that thing we talked about a 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:17.600 week ago here's the real skinny now they're putting this additional day 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:21.519 a few days later where they're going okay now you can publish your unboxing 00:14:19.839 --> 00:14:26.880 here's the problem with that the unboxing contains no information 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:32.000 that's new yeah and especially when it's not even retail packaging yeah it's just 00:14:28.959 --> 00:14:33.600 a physical showcase 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:37.279 it's just a glamour video yeah i think they should be paying for that because 00:14:35.920 --> 00:14:43.680 effectively what they're getting is marketing so when NVIDIA sent us an embargo for an 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:50.320 unboxing of the 1080 ti i basically sent them back an angry email went this is bs 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:55.920 you guys are asking for free advertising no 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.800 no NVIDIA no hard no right yeah yeah 00:14:55.920 --> 00:15:04.399 yeah so AMD went and pulled the same thing with threadripper on the CPU side 00:15:01.760 --> 00:15:09.360 and then on the GPU side honestly this feels even worse in some 00:15:06.800 --> 00:15:13.760 way because instead of instead of asking for free marketing what they've done is 00:15:11.680 --> 00:15:16.399 they've manipulated the conclusions of what is supposed to be an independent 00:15:15.199 --> 00:15:20.480 evaluation yeah i mean like you said it's so close to 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:24.880 the launch date that's i mean our reviews are still not 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:28.160 even cooled off yet and now that whole the whole budget factor of it is just 00:15:26.880 --> 00:15:32.480 wrong and like i'm sure 00:15:30.160 --> 00:15:37.199 one maybe two guys will make a video about that right yeah but there's only 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:41.760 enough space for that because honestly most people in the audience won't really 00:15:39.040 --> 00:15:44.160 care they won't care in terms of like oh i'm going to watch all of these videos 00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:48.160 because i'm that interested you know what i mean nope so then it's the the 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:51.279 roi on making one of those isn't really there for the creators so then they're 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:55.839 probably not going to make it yep and is the rebate information 00:15:53.040 --> 00:15:58.720 available to to the reviewers until a certain point i didn't know anything 00:15:56.880 --> 00:16:02.880 about no rebate yeah i i didn't know anything about it and i didn't know that 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:05.519 it was going to be expiring after a week yeah 00:16:03.920 --> 00:16:09.279 if they had been upfront about that then this is a totally different conversation 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:12.639 and that's and that's not even that it doesn't even mention the fact 00:16:10.959 --> 00:16:16.720 that they only launched with bendel's to begin with anyway yeah really hard to 00:16:14.560 --> 00:16:19.600 find a card by itself the bundles were the only thing you could find all the 00:16:17.680 --> 00:16:23.680 retailers were doing bundles yep and i mean like if we want to keep going on 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:27.519 about grievances with the rx vega launch um 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:29.440 you know when did you get your vega 56 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:33.519 um friday before the lunch yeah so we got 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:38.240 it friday morning before what was it a monday 6 a.m launch yeah so 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:42.639 if anyone from AMD's watching i'ma break this down for you 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:46.480 saturday and sunday are both considered weekends 00:16:43.920 --> 00:16:50.560 and it is fairly typical for people who have a 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:55.120 life or a family or both 00:16:51.839 --> 00:16:57.600 i don't know if anyone has both or none 00:16:55.120 --> 00:17:01.839 can you have a life and a family okay whatever not the point the point 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:05.039 the point is that those two days are weekend days which are generally 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:10.240 considered the days that you spend having a life or having a family right 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:13.280 so then we have to make the choice right so i have to tell my wife and my kids 00:17:11.760 --> 00:17:16.240 last minute like hey i've got to work all day saturday oh and by the way i'm 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:20.559 going to be leaving for a whole week right after that you know so i lose a 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:24.240 whole a whole saturday with them yep and literally that was 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:27.439 we just added a whole sixth workday to the week just to handle that well you 00:17:25.600 --> 00:17:30.880 could just you could just wait and you could you could just publish so here's 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:37.280 the thing we had vega 64 like a week before and we had the drivers and 00:17:33.360 --> 00:17:38.799 everything and we were told that vega 56 00:17:37.280 --> 00:17:43.679 was going to be coming was going to be lifted way later like quite a bit later 00:17:41.760 --> 00:17:47.520 so we weren't so we were like we were like yeah everything's fine and then a 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:49.520 card literally arrived here friday morning 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:55.760 at 56 and i was like what are we supposed to do with a message asking to prioritize it 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:59.760 did they for you yeah oh i don't i think we didn't get that until like even later 00:17:57.600 --> 00:18:03.520 in the day yeah i know the message was 56 is coming please please prioritize it 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:10.080 if you can i got a new driver on the weekend yeah no no you're absolutely right and 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:11.280 remember guys this is a 6 a.m pacific 00:18:10.080 --> 00:18:15.840 launch time so you have to be done the night before so you actually have to be rendering 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:20.559 your video by like sunday evening 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:25.120 because there might be errors there may be things you have to correct the render might not work there might be edits you 00:18:23.600 --> 00:18:28.640 have to make because of a problem taryn's very intimately 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:31.679 familiar with this yeah so 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:37.840 well it's kind of like right before the new CPU platform launches too right how many BIOS updates are there like up to 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:41.039 the day of launch i would be it's really funny people are joking in the twitch 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:46.080 chat about like youtuber union or something like that 00:18:43.600 --> 00:18:51.200 here is an interesting thought oh i'm directly what if every 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:54.400 tech guy on youtube got together and said no 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:58.160 screw your embargo we'll go when we're all ready i've kind 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:01.919 of started doing that vegas the first actual embargo date i've 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:06.160 hit in a long time thread didn't hit ryzen three five and seven i didn't hit 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:09.600 Intel i didn't usually go for like two three days after everybody published two 00:19:07.919 --> 00:19:12.080 three weeks sometimes because i'm tired of the situation like Linus is talking 00:19:11.120 --> 00:19:16.880 about and what you're talking about with last minute drivers and stuff that i just wait for things to kind of settle 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:21.760 and then i go into it start making a like review embargo alliance 00:19:19.360 --> 00:19:24.720 yeah review embargo alliance because like 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:29.280 we had to pull in we had to pull in multiple people on a saturday yeah to 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:33.600 come in basically because the video was completely done 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:36.400 yeah by the time we had a vega 56 in our hand 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:40.320 yeah yeah so teren's over there informing us that it was indeed him that 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:43.840 edited it all too yeah so now he has like that didn't get to go anywhere i've 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:49.120 just gotten so sick and tired of all the last minute changes and the way it actually changes the whole landscape uh 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:52.640 that i've just decided like i'm no longer going to abide by the embargo 00:19:51.280 --> 00:19:57.039 dates trying to hit them if i'm late that's fine enough my audience is willing to wait and watch it anyway yeah 00:19:55.600 --> 00:20:03.200 but i'm tired of feeling like i'm just an extension of someone else's marketing team so tell me this 00:20:01.360 --> 00:20:07.840 um oh shoot i completely lost track of what i was going to say there bloody 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:09.919 hell sorry it's been a long week 00:20:07.840 --> 00:20:15.600 it has something something embargo something embargo union 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:18.160 yeah something something etc yeah forget 00:20:15.600 --> 00:20:24.240 it i got nothing so uh basically i'm frustrated it's stupid and 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:26.480 uh i've had enough of this crap 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:29.200 oh now i'm really frustrated it was like a 00:20:27.280 --> 00:20:32.159 it was like a great discussion thing i was really looking forward to talk about 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:35.679 something very temporarily while you can try to think about that do you want to 00:20:33.520 --> 00:20:39.200 talk about what the the the premise or the rules were for the scrapyard wars 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:42.799 yeah go ahead go ahead so for this scrapyard wars the idea was instead of 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:46.159 starting at the office and working out of the office the entire time like we 00:20:44.320 --> 00:20:49.280 have in the past we had two teams should we see what the teams were yeah 00:20:47.360 --> 00:20:53.120 absolutely that's already public oh okay yeah so oh right that makes 00:20:51.280 --> 00:20:57.600 sense so it's myself and jay and Linus and dimitri and we started out actually 00:20:55.679 --> 00:21:02.880 in the city of vancouver which is about an hour from here and we had a fair 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:06.400 amount of cash i can say how much but a fair amount of cash but some of that 00:21:04.159 --> 00:21:09.600 cash had to be allocated to food and water 00:21:07.919 --> 00:21:13.200 you had no budget for food you couldn't just buy food normally scrapbook was you 00:21:11.760 --> 00:21:16.720 could buy whatever food you wanted while you're going with your own money um but 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:21.120 this time to be fair it didn't have to it's just if it's allocated from your 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:23.840 budget yeah anything you spent anything you need anything you had to come out of 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:27.360 that budget if you wanted to bike somewhere you'd have to buy or rent a 00:21:25.600 --> 00:21:32.000 bike if you wanted to transit somewhere further out you'd have to get a bus pass 00:21:29.520 --> 00:21:36.240 or a transit pass of some sort or get a cab or whatever 00:21:33.919 --> 00:21:40.159 so yeah it was it was a very interesting setup both teams 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:43.120 decided to go at it in certain ways that i'm not going to describe because i'm 00:21:41.520 --> 00:21:46.159 worried about going too deeply into it uh but yeah it was very interesting and 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:49.679 quite a bit different from any other scrapyard worse than being an empty cup 00:21:49.760 --> 00:21:56.240 i'm just laughing all the get jay water comments because i took a drink from an empty cup i was like oh 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:02.000 i'm trying to make up for all the water that you know we needed yes yeah don't 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:06.880 spoil it water doesn't spoil 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:09.919 that's well what no this uh don't say you figured it out 00:22:08.159 --> 00:22:14.080 yeah i never figured out what it was but i had really like just wanted to talk a 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:19.679 little bit more about um sort of how they're handling it and how it's uh 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:22.880 we've had to do it before we've had to delay videos we've missed embargoes 00:22:21.760 --> 00:22:26.559 which are fairly important but we've found not the 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:30.000 most important thing and sometimes it helps if there does happen to be a 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:33.520 change yeah because then we can talk about the change and that one video will 00:22:31.520 --> 00:22:39.120 pick up traction but it's usually only us or only jay or only dimitri or 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:43.919 only one type of creator that's making that one delayed video i 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:47.200 do wonder what the what the the fallout would be not really fallout 00:22:45.360 --> 00:22:52.400 but what would the impact be if suddenly the entire tech scene on youtube just 00:22:49.760 --> 00:22:56.480 said no we're not gonna hit your embargo we all collectively say we'll wait two 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:59.280 weeks to see where things land because we'd still be in that window of 00:22:57.760 --> 00:23:03.919 AMD pulling this or would they just postpone this i don't know i don't know how they'd 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:07.520 react because i told them i think you guys should push it 00:23:06.320 --> 00:23:11.280 i think they might i think they might think initially especially something like NVIDIA right they might think that 00:23:10.159 --> 00:23:15.600 there's not gonna be any impact whatsoever but that's that'd be an interesting metric to see how it 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.480 actually plays out i don't think NVIDIA gives two craps what any of us think i 00:23:17.360 --> 00:23:23.120 think you're right to be perfectly honest um it's really funny because like i 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:26.799 think you take this somewhat too but we we take flack all the time for being in 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:31.679 NVIDIA's pocket or whatever somewhat i think somewhat yeah yeah no 00:23:29.840 --> 00:23:35.600 we do when show is brought to you by NVIDIA so 00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:37.840 yeah according to the audience anyway so like it's it's one of those things where 00:23:37.120 --> 00:23:42.400 like you know i've butted heads with them a fair number of 00:23:41.280 --> 00:23:49.200 times recently more often than i like go to a nice 00:23:45.919 --> 00:23:51.280 dinner and you know talk shop 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:56.640 it's been it's been it's been pretty tough lately actually 00:23:53.919 --> 00:24:00.880 all right so let's have a look at uh we didn't get titan xp 00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:04.400 needed today until like now yeah we have one now yeah cause they were like oh 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:07.120 what you guys don't have one i was like no i asked for one for terry crews and 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:12.640 they said no seriously what they turned me down until i made that video talk like talking crap 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:16.240 about titan xp which would have gone out regardless because i think it's a really 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:18.880 stupid card based on like the way they're locking down the cuda cores and 00:24:17.520 --> 00:24:24.559 yeah they're unlocking it multiple times in the same generation uh but it was after that they're like 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:28.080 two of them just showed up right right so they they hand delivered 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:33.840 them yeah i was like they're not even for me i don't even care right they're not for 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:37.120 me and like this is this is a stupid thing on both the vendor side and the 00:24:35.760 --> 00:24:41.679 audience side do you guys honestly think 00:24:39.520 --> 00:24:46.000 that jay can be bought with a graphics card that doesn't pay my lease 00:24:44.159 --> 00:24:49.679 doesn't pay for my employees my insurance do you need more graphics 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:55.840 cards jay it's pretty obvious i don't sell them i mean you can see the shop you know 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:58.799 no i they they do not run my business in fact i started buying more stuff than 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:02.640 ever now i've noticed that you were talking about buying lots of stuff for 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:07.279 yourself just it's just easier and it's getting 00:25:05.520 --> 00:25:12.640 right away you don't have to yeah yep and now with your scrap yard work 00:25:09.840 --> 00:25:16.799 experience you can buy more stuff too with someone else's money which is great 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:24.400 speaking of someone else's money the show today is brought to you by 00:25:21.679 --> 00:25:31.440 cablemod yeah i've got some stuff over there yeah okay 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:34.640 so cablemod now has 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:36.159 sleeving for aios have you guys seen 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:40.000 this have you heard about this yeah oh okay i did a great review that was very 00:25:37.679 --> 00:25:45.840 well received oh okay i didn't watch it i know you didn't watch it either um 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:49.600 so basically you buy your aio and then with no actual modification required you 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:53.919 guys can go watch jay's video because we didn't review them um 00:25:52.159 --> 00:25:56.720 but there you go you just kind of unfold it and then you don't have to like take 00:25:55.440 --> 00:26:01.600 off the tubing or anything like that you just wrap it around and you end up with 00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:05.360 that nice sleeved look on your aio cooler tubes and matches your cabling 00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:08.559 assuming you went and bought cable mod cabling and 00:26:07.360 --> 00:26:12.240 that's pretty much it they've got little finishing pieces for the end so they 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:15.440 look nice and tidy and uh what else can i really say about 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:19.600 it i mean it's a pretty simple idea it just took someone to do it the colors do 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:22.480 specifically match their cable sleeving so they're perfectly mesh for that so 00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:26.400 they've got lots and lots of different colors you guys can go check them out 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:31.360 they've also just launched their sleeving kits on amazon so we've got a 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:36.320 link in the video description for that but basically it's uh hold on a second 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:39.840 and can i even figure out how to do this on a mac 00:26:37.760 --> 00:26:45.120 holy crap you can't you can't right click it's two finger click copy you have to 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:48.720 like to finger tap it two finger tap ah it took me a while so i'm not signed in 00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:54.880 so forget it uh the link will be below the video i'll get it 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:57.360 all right what else we got here oh yes 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:59.919 today's show challenge also brought to you by 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.840 g fuel that's right the same g fuel that 00:27:03.840 --> 00:27:08.799 we were check it out 00:27:07.360 --> 00:27:15.039 that right there is concentrated blue energy g fuel 00:27:11.919 --> 00:27:18.000 powers the editing of many of our videos 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:22.510 and the writing of most episodes of fast as possible around here we actually 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.000 consume as an office 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:31.360 amount of g fuel yeah so uh basically how it works is you choose your fuel 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:35.840 select your drink mix from up from over excuse me from 18 flavors they ship it 00:27:33.840 --> 00:27:39.279 directly to you you just add water so you mix one serving into a glass or 00:27:37.679 --> 00:27:46.240 shaker cup filled with 16 ounces of water and enjoy it comes in tubs 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:51.600 just like that boxes containing packs or just the little packs themselves and 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:55.039 then who put this note in here a bunch of the people here at the office pretty 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:58.399 much live off of it so what john 00:27:56.399 --> 00:28:01.120 john for sure i know Colton drinks a lot of Colton thinks a lot of it i've seen a 00:27:59.919 --> 00:28:06.799 bunch in the editing den but i'm not entirely sure who drinks it in there i'm not sure i think ed does i wouldn't be 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:10.320 surprised at all i'm pretty sure ed consumes copious amounts of it 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:15.600 um so there you have it their goal was to create an alternative to sugar loaded 00:28:13.520 --> 00:28:19.520 canned energy drinks and now you can have these packets you mix them with 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:24.000 water and bippity bop you're ready to go so you can save 40 00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:29.279 until august 21st using offer code Linus at the 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you're like into spicy but not an insane amount of 00:29:11.840 --> 00:29:16.640 spicy like you don't want your face to literally melt but you're into spicy i 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:19.840 like mojo i think people have been eating these because they're like all 00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:23.120 almost empty yeah everyone's just like oh yeah i'll just 00:29:21.760 --> 00:29:27.120 like eat one no one will know that's really hot one that's that's pretty hot 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:31.440 and reaper i think is even hotter yeah reaper is the crazy one ghost pepper is 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:36.000 like pretty damn hot mohoe's on this is less teriyaki 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:38.159 this is like a three so it's like spicy 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:42.000 and it'll kick okay uh so the reaper is a five it like makes its own level 00:29:40.399 --> 00:29:45.840 does it smell ghost pepper is a floral taste okay this one's just delicious if 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:50.240 you guys just want something tasty 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you can go ahead 00:30:28.159 --> 00:30:33.279 and pick one of those if you want i'm not going to make you do it though because they're like my girlfriend would 00:30:31.760 --> 00:30:36.640 die savage is right in the name oh really this is too spicy okay you got a 00:30:35.520 --> 00:30:41.919 giant piece in there i think you'll be good i love habanero yeah i think you'll be 00:30:39.679 --> 00:30:45.200 good yeah will i be good if you will if you if you don't like spice don't eat 00:30:43.520 --> 00:30:49.520 that one but if you like spice it's it's good but the mojo one's not hot no the 00:30:47.760 --> 00:30:52.480 mohawk one's a one it's like it's not even supposed to be hot 00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:59.440 good yeah yeah give me two minutes i'll be sweating 00:30:59.760 --> 00:31:05.760 yeah the reapers the reaper is a bit of a kick that one kind of sucks that's a 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:11.360 five sucks in terms of like it hurts it tastes good to be fair 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:14.960 the only thing i don't like is like um the powder like sometimes like you 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.000 breathe the powder yeah but no flavor is really good because they try to they 00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:20.640 they go pretty hard with the flavor stuff which i like for beef jerky i 00:31:19.679 --> 00:31:26.880 think that's one of the reasons why that's something so much i'm cool with hot 00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:29.840 yeah no it's not it's not too hot i swear 00:31:28.080 --> 00:31:33.520 i'm cool with hot if it has flavor but yeah hot for the sake of hot noise i'm 00:31:31.600 --> 00:31:36.559 the same way yeah i can deal with a fair amount of spice but it's i only it's not 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:40.480 even like water helps with the with habanero i'm just thirsty yeah 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:44.720 all right i'm gonna drop a bomb on you guys uh this was originally posted by 00:31:42.360 --> 00:31:48.799 numlock21 on the forum the original article here is from videocards.com so 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:53.000 take it with a grain of salt uh Intel claims 00:31:51.440 --> 00:32:02.159 the core i7 8700k will be 11 faster than the 7700k 00:31:59.679 --> 00:32:07.760 and here's what i want to know because this is crazy well it is to be 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:11.360 fair this is a whole entire one percent higher than i would have guessed this is 00:32:09.360 --> 00:32:17.039 what i want to know who needed Intel to claim this 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:20.960 to know that this was coming yeah i mean this is literally 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:26.480 this does this mean about does this mean that they're not 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:30.559 scared okay so here's the thing so there's two 00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:34.240 things first of all the rumors are also that coffee lake is going to be 00:32:31.760 --> 00:32:38.720 available in six core configurations which would legit be good okay so if 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.480 they're so they're keeping their 10 and adding course if they're 10 faster in 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:47.200 terms of ipc and they're adding 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:52.240 50 more cores then i'm looking at this going 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:57.279 that's a good job thank you for what should have happened two years ago but 00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:04.159 okay yeah fine thank you i mean i'll i still appreciate 00:33:01.360 --> 00:33:08.320 them doing something good even if it was a long time coming 00:33:06.399 --> 00:33:12.159 and should have happened before so the 8700 kids is going to be the six core 00:33:10.320 --> 00:33:17.919 excuse me it's supposed to be six core 12 thread with a single threaded boost 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:19.919 over the 7700k of about 11 percent yet 00:33:17.919 --> 00:33:22.399 there'll still be an i5 and x299 at that time 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:30.159 uh yeah cause x299 is not gonna refresh by then so yeah i mean this is this is yet 00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:37.600 another reason i mean you know okay you know my feelings i know your feelings on 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:39.440 the 7740 and the 7640. those two skus 00:33:37.600 --> 00:33:44.240 make no sense at all and when coffee lake launches 00:33:41.600 --> 00:33:49.279 those skus remember the whole point of the high-end desktop platform is 00:33:46.320 --> 00:33:56.640 supposed to be mucho memory bandwidth mucho pci e-lanes and mucho processing 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:58.720 cores and moho jerky those chips have 00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:02.720 none of those things they have beefed up power delivery so 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:07.519 theoretically you can overclock them a little higher they're still dual core they still have the mainstream platform 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:12.800 number of PCIe lanes and they're still quad core processors and they're pulling significantly more power than their 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:17.679 mainstream counterparts and now compared to the mainstream platform 00:34:15.040 --> 00:34:22.000 that's coming oh i don't know what it's rumored to be launching what in it 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:25.599 so it would be three months later if the rumors are true 00:34:23.919 --> 00:34:32.560 it will be two generations behind architecturally two 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:36.800 and that might only be ten percent per generation or you know eight percent or 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:40.399 whatever but still two generations times ten percent is not complicated math 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:43.200 that's twenty percent so if you had a five gigahertz processor let's say 00:34:41.919 --> 00:34:47.599 you're an overclocker it's actually better than that because ten percent on top of ten 00:34:45.520 --> 00:34:50.800 percent that's right so let's say you're you're an overclocker uh you get to five 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:56.320 gigahertz we're talking about now on this high-end 00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:58.720 platform you would be equivalent to the 00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:02.599 mainstream's performance at what like four gigahertz right 00:35:03.040 --> 00:35:10.000 well that's not good yeah why did i just go spend 350 on a 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:15.359 motherboard Intel because they're hoping you're gonna just step forward or future compatibility 00:35:13.040 --> 00:35:19.280 with more expensive bigger but why would you still spend you know almost 400 on 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.880 that CPU for getting the i7 that's the thing it's like i get that argument if 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:29.040 it's like a pentium dual core or something and that's devil's advocate argument as far as i'm concerned right 00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:32.240 like like i've seen that before like pentium anniversary edition where we're 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:36.640 talking a hundred dollar chip right you buy something to to get running today 00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:40.400 you hope it doesn't drop in value too much you flip because a hundred dollar 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:44.400 CPU if it drops in value twenty percent we're talking twenty bucks yeah 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:48.720 right and if you if you've managed to save up your 400 or 500 or whatever you 00:35:47.040 --> 00:35:54.079 need for an eight-core processor by that point then surely the 20 is not that big of a 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:58.720 deal some time has passed i get that logic but here we're talking about a 300 00:35:56.560 --> 00:36:02.000 plus dollar processor that you're buying as a placeholder 00:36:00.160 --> 00:36:06.720 doesn't make sense do you guys buy a 300 processor as a placeholder in the socket 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:10.000 i i don't really buy processors as placeholders 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:14.400 right and we never recommend that no 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:18.800 do do you guys ever recommend that buy heart buy hardware that isn't what 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:21.920 you actually need and then like like buy something else later yeah i know i would 00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:26.480 unless you're like crazy like craigslist or use site junkie 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:30.960 because like you've done this kind of stuff but you're constantly flipping things so you were never planning on 00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:35.200 holding it for more than like possibly even two weeks but even then it doesn't 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:39.480 matter you're not buying new anyway no yeah exactly so yeah so it's not even 00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:45.920 applicable so like i could see buying a 7740 from some idiot who bought it 00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:49.680 realized that this was really stupid and then it's like oh crap this thing isn't 00:36:47.680 --> 00:36:55.520 worth much i guess i'll just take a bath on it i could buy from that guy yeah and then 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:58.240 then i do buy myself a few months to save up and i can probably flip it for 00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:03.520 pretty close to what i paid but i wouldn't buy something like that new no 00:37:01.520 --> 00:37:05.920 that's why i threw mine in an htpc just because i was like what else am i going 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:10.240 to do with this oh i'll take the chip that doesn't make sense and put it in a form factor does it make sense for an 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:15.440 x299 platform to begin with so that my whole video was based on that 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:18.480 i just figured we'd put nonsense on top of nonsense 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:23.440 and then i called it my vr rig on top of that there you go oh 00:37:20.240 --> 00:37:24.960 vr capable vr cable sticker put it on 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:28.079 we got to get as reviewers we need to get our own vr capable stickers and just 00:37:26.640 --> 00:37:32.160 start putting them on every single it's a watermark on the video channel oh 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:35.200 perfectly already this video is vr ready yes but it's really not well you could 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.160 technically if you put it in theater mode oh true yeah watch it in vr theater 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:44.720 yes figured out vr ready this is vr ready 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:48.640 life is vr ready oh right yeah because you could buy an 00:37:46.560 --> 00:37:53.200 oculus or anything else in life which means that it's vr ready i 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:56.800 was going with sony vr or whatever it is oh yeah also that 00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:03.960 what yeah okay uh so the original article 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:08.960 here is from ours technica i've been completely out of the loop this week so 00:38:07.040 --> 00:38:15.040 this isn't that crazy i can kind of explain why uh so apple is 00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:18.880 investing a huge amount uh it says they're going all in but apple has a lot 00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:24.000 of money yeah billion dollars is not all in so not at all um but they're they're 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:28.320 putting a billion dollar budget to apple shows uh so they're doing like the first 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:31.839 original series from them was planet of the apps and carpool karaoke and they're 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.520 doing more but this isn't that surprising netflix is going really 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:40.640 hardcore into original content they're going to be putting these shows on the 00:38:37.680 --> 00:38:46.079 apple music thing so they probably need to rename that but oh well um a lot of 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:50.079 these big companies that are trying to serve video are going into original 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:53.040 content because licensing especially from 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:58.000 like big movies and big shows if you want to have all of them is obscenely 00:38:56.240 --> 00:39:01.359 prohibitively expensive and this is something you and i have discussed um 00:38:59.839 --> 00:39:05.119 apparently there isn't a video streaming platform 00:39:03.839 --> 00:39:09.760 online like a significant one i mean that's 00:39:07.680 --> 00:39:13.520 losing money yeah and you know now that we are really 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:16.320 digging and sometimes there sometimes they're parts of bigger companies and 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.560 then they don't care that they're not losing money or it's offset by some other aspect of the business exactly 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:26.320 yeah but the actual video streaming division 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.800 whether we're talking youtube um amazon 00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:33.839 prime video netflix twitch as far as we can tell 00:39:31.680 --> 00:39:36.960 they're all losing money and like hearing from certain people that work at 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:41.119 some of those companies not all of them but some of those companies we know people that 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:45.119 i think we know at least someone at pretty much all of them yeah 00:39:43.520 --> 00:39:48.000 which makes moves like disney pulling all of their movies off of netflix to 00:39:46.640 --> 00:39:52.480 have their own streaming service just really make you scratch your head i mean i know disney has disney money to 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:57.440 spend but still no company wants to bleed money but they all they already have a website and they've already been 00:39:55.680 --> 00:40:00.400 streaming their own video to be fair so they just have to scale up yeah but you 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:04.000 you could get their stuff in other places now now their video is gonna be 00:40:02.160 --> 00:40:06.960 available only on one source so they're gonna have to probably upscale anyway 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:10.320 and that way they can control the pricing too they can they can just they 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:14.720 can control the content that goes around it disney cares about that a lot yeah 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:18.880 they do and also users already getting familiar with needing to get their hands 00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:22.400 into so many other platforms yeah and you know how we were talking about there's gonna be sites that pop up that 00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:27.119 bring everything together they already exist right oh all right well there's already a thing yeah 00:40:25.839 --> 00:40:31.599 so you just kind of like log in with all your logins there and then it just becomes a single house becomes one 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:35.200 viewing site yeah so like i got tons of tweets about 00:40:33.839 --> 00:40:40.320 that last time yeah i think they're actually you know what i feel really stupid now because i know samsung had a 00:40:38.240 --> 00:40:43.359 thing built into their smart tvs like a while back that mixes it all together 00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:46.880 for years that actually it's just a browser of the other browsers yeah it 00:40:45.040 --> 00:40:50.160 just goes and finds and it can even browse uh rental services like google 00:40:48.720 --> 00:40:53.760 play oh that's neat you know what's really funny is on the subject of apple 00:40:52.160 --> 00:40:59.040 uh doing their own original programming and like they should probably change the 00:40:55.359 --> 00:41:02.480 name of like itunes now i 00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:03.920 i gave google so much crap about google 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:09.040 play store back when they did it now 00:41:06.560 --> 00:41:16.160 it totally makes sense yeah yeah play music play games play videos oh 00:41:13.680 --> 00:41:19.520 they actually got that one right yep way to go google 00:41:17.839 --> 00:41:22.160 i just did it way ahead of time when in the moment it didn't make a ton of sense 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:28.160 it just made a lot more sense in the future they were playing they were playing 3d chess they were doing the 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:31.280 long game and i was playing with you wow 00:41:29.839 --> 00:41:35.200 that was that was what was going on there i didn't get it i mean that you 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:40.480 were you were making children at that point in time no not yet okay yeah no 00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:44.560 not yet no uh that was a solo effort oh that's why it was just playing solo 00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:48.880 effort i see yes okay yeah yeah yeah 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.920 still a fun game i'm surprised that with the one billion here 00:41:54.400 --> 00:42:01.520 i put up the green screen picture from earlier and someone did that oh no 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:04.720 i love how you said that oh no 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:07.280 show him the other one these guys 00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:11.520 they can't check out at jay's two cents uh actually 00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:15.200 here i can i can pull it up yeah it's pretty it's pretty 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:18.400 so we we dimitri knight earlier if you guys follow our social media we stood in 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:21.040 front of their green screen and uh it was you know to give you guys an 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:26.319 opportunity to key out and play around with green screen pictures there's some good awesome there's some really good 00:42:23.839 --> 00:42:30.960 creative people out there my goodness just go to media oh there it is yeah 00:42:28.640 --> 00:42:34.880 also make sure to to tag some of them might not be appropriate so you might 00:42:32.160 --> 00:42:37.880 not want to scroll live okay there it is well there's there's 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.319 the one we were looking for 00:42:40.319 --> 00:42:46.000 that's your thinking up there jay would your wife approve who is that who is 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:50.319 that foxy uh foxy foxy babe 00:42:48.640 --> 00:42:54.640 oh what is going on here dang it apple 00:42:53.040 --> 00:43:00.319 what's up that's the sun okay 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:02.800 oh man that's great 00:43:01.520 --> 00:43:08.240 oh my god that's that is great 00:43:08.240 --> 00:43:15.040 all right see you we know have fun we can have fun 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:19.680 somehow work all right so here's some potentially big news so 00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:22.240 pcgamer.com reports and i'm just gonna close this ad before i screen share with 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:28.319 you guys NVIDIA's next-gen volta gaming gpus 00:43:26.319 --> 00:43:32.640 not arriving anytime soon well why would they so this picture right here is 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:37.920 jensen showing off volta already super duper definitely working 00:43:35.680 --> 00:43:41.520 in the data center which means based on the way that NVIDIA rolls out 00:43:40.560 --> 00:43:47.040 product they launched their big GPU first 00:43:44.720 --> 00:43:50.079 and whatever product that is it used to be GeForce 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:53.680 now it never is but i'm not bitter and video launches their 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:58.000 big one first which means they've got the architecture 00:43:55.200 --> 00:44:01.280 down and then they just they just cut they cut and cut and cut and the 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:05.440 performance goes down according to how much they cut away 00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:08.960 that process usually takes like two to three months per per cut because there 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:14.079 is an art it's obviously more complicated than just like taking a pair 00:44:10.720 --> 00:44:15.359 of scissors to a you know uh to a v100 00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:19.280 and like taping that to a pcb like 00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:23.200 um so there's r d that is involved with that and you've only got so many engineers at a time it's a resource 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:27.440 management thing so based on when they showed off 00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:31.760 working like production volta silicon 00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:36.000 it's been a while they could probably be launching a GeForce card now if they 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:40.079 felt like there's no reason to there's no mark there's there's no competition 00:44:37.839 --> 00:44:44.720 for them to do it and they push back uh their hbm already generations from when 00:44:42.560 --> 00:44:47.760 the original roadmap back in like 2012 was leaked yeah it was maxwell i believe 00:44:46.560 --> 00:44:51.119 was when we were supposed to first see facebook hpm that was super duper but 00:44:49.680 --> 00:44:56.079 they they now look at vega and they're just like why even invest in the manufacturing cost of this when we don't 00:44:54.319 --> 00:44:58.720 have to when our when our traditional architecture is still topping the 00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:04.240 competition and the other thing too is like NVIDIA strategically you've seen it over the 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:09.920 last five years has moved from try to make the GPU faster faster faster to try 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.839 to build out technology around the GPU 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:16.160 whether it's stuff that doesn't make a ton of sense to me personally like ansel 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:19.040 is that that screenshotting thing where you can capture like super 00:45:17.680 --> 00:45:22.960 high resolution still do you guys know anyone that uses that have you used it 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:26.240 i've used it only in the demo version just to see how 00:45:24.720 --> 00:45:30.160 high resolution you can go if you go like crank up the settings but outside 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:33.839 of seeing how beautiful you can turn those screenshots for like which are 00:45:31.680 --> 00:45:36.960 three in the other games i've never done if you want like a big 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:40.000 poster in your on your own i have never used it ever like i'll tell you guys 00:45:38.560 --> 00:45:46.000 this i remember this was a weird experience for me at a lan party this was back when like i went to lan party 00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:50.960 so clearly i like played video games but i wasn't really like i didn't have like 00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:53.040 a guild or like a clan or anything like 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:56.720 that so being like really into video games was kind of alien to me 00:45:55.040 --> 00:46:02.319 and there were these two people at a land and it's only like a 45-50 person 00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:08.800 land um which like it's big but it's not that big they spent like two hours 00:46:05.680 --> 00:46:11.440 literally it felt like you know uncle 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:17.040 harold's like vacation pictures one of them was showing the other one an 00:46:14.319 --> 00:46:20.720 album of wow screenshots yeah like this was the time we climbed to the top of 00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:24.480 frickin some mountain and whoever clicked through the thing and like 00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:28.240 whoever clipped through the thing so it was hyjal what i don't know what you're talking 00:46:26.720 --> 00:46:31.599 about so see no this this this this might have been pretty cool okay one 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:36.640 thing wild screenshots was like a big deal because you'd show boss kills 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:40.160 and you'd usually have like the time stamp so if you were like world first or 00:46:38.640 --> 00:46:44.960 server first or whatever you could show the boss kill um it could be and if he's 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:48.319 talking about mike don't hide the kill and this is when you were at 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:53.599 lan parties so this was probably classic wow correct yeah in classic wow you were 00:46:51.040 --> 00:46:58.640 not allowed to get to mount hyjal so he probably has a similar screenshot set to 00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:00.560 me which is glitching through many walls 00:46:58.640 --> 00:47:04.079 and over many things and it takes like quite a while to get there and you're 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:08.800 just like screwing the game repeatedly and you get to a part of the game that 00:47:05.520 --> 00:47:10.079 has like blizzard co construction signs 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:14.880 and there's stuff that never got released that's in there 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:18.560 like archimonde's like big giant skull leaning up against this tree and stuff 00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:22.560 which was never in the game so it was actually super cool and it was glitchers 00:47:21.200 --> 00:47:28.400 it wasn't necessarily just people that are interested in wow because i was a glitcher back then i broke like every 00:47:26.319 --> 00:47:32.720 single aspect of halo 2. um a friend of mine utah crusher i 00:47:30.720 --> 00:47:36.800 haven't talked to you in many years but this guy named utah crusher and i used 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:40.400 to play halo 2 together and we were like in the first group of 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:44.000 people that found the switching from rocket to a sword and flying across the 00:47:42.319 --> 00:47:48.800 entire map glitch if you knew that one i killed hogger you 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:52.000 would do this thing where the rocket the the rocket you could aim at someone 00:47:50.720 --> 00:47:55.040 and it would show it would show red because you were targeting them right 00:47:53.839 --> 00:47:59.760 do you remember that i never played halo 2 that's an xbox game 00:47:57.680 --> 00:48:06.400 okay whatever man if you if i think it happened in halo 1 too if you aimed over 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:08.319 top of someone the aimer would turn red 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:13.200 anyways i don't remember um that long time ago that was like a state and the 00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:16.800 sword if the aimer was red you would lunge towards them and the state was 00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:21.359 shared so if you switched it fast enough and lunged it wouldn't notice 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:24.720 that it wasn't in that state anymore so it would let you lunge to the person but 00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:27.359 they're super far away because it's the targeting from the rocket launcher so 00:48:26.319 --> 00:48:32.319 you just like and just fly it it was pretty cool we did a lot of other 00:48:30.319 --> 00:48:36.640 stuff too i'm gonna stop that so i'll say this 00:48:34.640 --> 00:48:40.800 many many of the screenshots were just like here's me and this other person in 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:46.720 a meadow no it was really bad 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:48.640 so okay anyway back to back to the topic 00:48:46.720 --> 00:48:52.480 um a lot some of the stuff in videos building doesn't make a ton of sense to 00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:58.319 me like ansel um but some of the stuff they're building does make a ton of 00:48:54.079 --> 00:49:00.800 sense um things like uh streaming 00:48:58.319 --> 00:49:03.920 uh better better GPU-based encoding and decoding okay all that kind of stuff 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:09.680 does make sense to me um so pretty much what they're doing is 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.160 they're kind of going we don't even we don't even 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:16.800 need to develop a much much faster GPU every 00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:23.280 year we're just going to like put more tech in it to the point where even if 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:26.079 the rx vega 556 00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:29.200 was the same price as a gtx 1070 NVIDIA's whole thing on their side is 00:49:27.680 --> 00:49:34.079 like we still think you should buy a 1070 anyway because we do release day 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:36.800 drivers every time oh by the way they're wickle wall 00:49:35.359 --> 00:49:41.040 um and then we've got all this other tech 00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:45.839 we've got shadow play and and all that kind of stuff built into it 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:48.000 and uh you know AMD's approach is oh 00:49:45.839 --> 00:49:51.359 yeah but like our approach is open and but you look at sometimes but the 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:55.760 video started opening stuff up too though sometimes open makes sense 00:49:53.920 --> 00:50:00.319 but only if you're actually doing any work yeah cause like look at okay so 00:49:58.640 --> 00:50:04.079 stereoscopic 3d however much of an abortion you may or 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:08.240 may not think it is NVIDIA did a better job because they 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:12.640 actually did work on it whereas AMD was just like yeah through izad 3d and 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:17.119 whatever that other thing was uh you can enable stereoscopic 3d on our 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.720 cards but they were these janky third party did you ever try is 3d it's no i 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:27.599 didn't it was awesome i never did NVIDIA's 3d stuff either it was awful 00:50:23.520 --> 00:50:28.880 like if you think 3d is bad imagine 3d 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:34.319 but like there's no oxygen so just to say 3d 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:38.400 ready or whatever yeah just just to just just to have the checkbox it was super 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:42.240 bad yeah we did testing for that a long time people are telling me to shut up 00:50:40.640 --> 00:50:45.200 uh they think like three quarters of the chat is dimitri 00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:53.280 in the chat yeah so much of it you talked yeah i mean you 00:50:51.520 --> 00:50:57.040 gave them what they wanted okay here i've got something for dimitri to 00:50:54.960 --> 00:51:00.240 discuss uh this was posted by purina on the forum the original article here is 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:05.440 from ars technica and this blew my mind 00:51:03.359 --> 00:51:11.119 bing is bigger than you think says microsoft with a quarter of uk searches 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:13.839 whoa wow so saying a quarter of the searches are 00:51:12.640 --> 00:51:19.280 from uk no no a quarter of the uk's searches 00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:23.280 are using bing 10 in spain nineteen percent 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:26.880 in france nine percent in uh 00:51:25.200 --> 00:51:31.119 what type of use though is it whatever that is what are they searching 00:51:29.040 --> 00:51:34.520 they're they're just looking to buy to download chrome 00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:44.160 that's probably legit man apparently taiwan is as high as 25 00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:47.920 percent the u.s is 33. yeah 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:53.119 the u.s is the biggest percentage 16 percent canada but these are just 00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.960 what these are views these are just figures being put out by marketing the 00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:01.119 lowest percentage because they may be just using type to 00:51:58.640 --> 00:52:03.920 search which uses bing as your as your 00:52:02.160 --> 00:52:07.839 search result i love how they're saying bing is bigger than you think and then 00:52:05.359 --> 00:52:11.440 there's literally multiple single-digit percentages 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:16.319 yeah that is bigger than i think to be fair yeah but like damn guys i i 00:52:14.640 --> 00:52:21.680 honestly think like dimitri said that's just because they're searching for another browser to download 00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:24.240 33 of all traffic in the usa is not searching for another browser to 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:27.839 download like i'm not even just trying to be devil's advocate that's not 00:52:26.640 --> 00:52:33.040 there's no way so if they're using cortana yeah cortana uses bing so 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.400 anytime you type that in click enter it 00:52:33.040 --> 00:52:39.040 uh so that's just a that's just a falsified not really falsified but it's 00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:42.079 it's skewed in that making it look like but i'm not going to being i don't use 00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:45.599 cortana to begin with but if i do a search or something down here i'm not 00:52:43.680 --> 00:52:49.280 searching bing i'm just searching here usually for something on my system but 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:52.720 yeah but that doesn't work that way most of the time it just gives you driver 00:52:51.200 --> 00:52:56.800 download from from online but it searches for the 00:52:54.480 --> 00:53:01.040 internet as well simultaneously when you search for something local so that 00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:05.520 really a good representation of being usage yeah that and i accidentally use 00:53:03.520 --> 00:53:09.920 bing a lot accidentally yeah so you contribute to that how many thirteen 00:53:07.680 --> 00:53:12.960 percent sixteen percent canada so i'll like i'll launch edge because i 00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:17.040 haven't bothered to install another browser yet and i'll search for something i'll be like oh crap 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:22.720 and then i'll have to sir someone in chat just said alexa uses 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:24.880 bing and alexa's huge in the states 00:53:22.720 --> 00:53:30.079 oh okay that would maybe make sense why it's 33 there because apparently 00:53:27.040 --> 00:53:31.359 globally it's about nine percent 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:36.000 ouch and then 33 percent in the usa that's 00:53:33.680 --> 00:53:36.000 huge 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.960 even like hong kong 00:53:41.359 --> 00:53:47.839 that can't be right i'm pretty sure that's not right bing is for porn apparently 00:53:46.720 --> 00:53:51.680 what yeah so a certain a certain friend of 00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:54.319 ours in seattle would say that like i guess the algorithm for that is way 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:58.559 better oh a certain friend of ours in seattle 00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:03.440 yeah well i'm not getting involved in that 00:54:00.720 --> 00:54:07.359 thanks for tuning in to you guys um thanks again to jay and dimitri not 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:11.920 only for being here for scrapyard wars but also for being here on the show so 00:54:09.520 --> 00:54:15.599 you can find jay over at uh i mean i know the answer is two cents 00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:21.359 with a z not to be confused with the rapper yeah 00:54:17.520 --> 00:54:21.359 and uh us at hardware conducts 00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:31.520 yeah i'm just i'm leaving it because it's funny oh i'll do it there we go 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.640 oh we should have done a special intro with like you guys like on planes coming 00:54:33.839 --> 00:54:37.359 here that would have been real 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:44.240 i cool share some footage they're like biplanes little scarves and goggles do you do 00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:44.240 like a box 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:50.960 yeah are you putting that on your channel yeah if you want to see a travel vlog go 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:55.599 to dimitri's channel hardware connections 00:54:53.200 --> 00:55:01.640 it's not my personal jam oh no no i'm collecting stuff still oh yeah that'll 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:01.640 be good though it'll be good