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all right it's when show time again and

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you guys may or may not have noticed there's something a little different

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about the show today i know what it is

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i'm screen sharing off a mac i'm using a mac oh no that's it isn't it

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unsubbed i know right um so yeah we've got a couple special

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guests we've got jay's two cents from the youtube channel jay's two cents

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there's pretty much no way you guys don't know who he is and

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then we've got dimitri from hardware canucks who a lot of you will probably

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know who he is as well so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today

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uh what what are they oh yeah in unexpected news

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AMD's vega graphics cards are more expensive than msrp

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oh my god who saw that coming more vegan news oh wait i've got okay you guys are

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all being sarcastic which is kind of a dick move okay this is not a sarcastic

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show no okay this is uh this is a forthright and clear

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communicative show sentences

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in other news Intel claims that the 8700k will be

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about 11 faster than the 7700k

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cool can we just not say anything if we're going to be not sarcastic you know what

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if you guys aren't going to like you guys aren't going to do the show nicely

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then you could just go actually you know what no i'm just gonna go

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okay okay well after that we have probably

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the intro no show's over this is the end

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this is the end of everything the end of

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we know days

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you are the weakest like goodbye goodbye

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you are where'd you find that at the very bottom

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what what i was looking for it neither of us

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could find it just for that but well for that that was in like one of your main

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compartments neither of us could find it we were both looking for it yeah

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good job nick magic hands magic hands

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oops i clicked the wrong thing uh uh uh

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okay back on the oh oh no terrible everything's terrible what are you doing

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uh hold on hold on i got this uh uh okay

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there and uh sponsors

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what do you have there we go don't worry about it don't worry about the nascar hat there's

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reasons that will be revealed at another time yeah it has nothing to do with scrap yard

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wars or the closed toed shoes yeah

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not that these guys are here also has nothing to do yes nothing right we flew

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in for a WAN Show only okay so actually

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i think that's probably a great topic for us to start with uh guys

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get amped about the upcoming season of scrapyard of course it's probably not

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going to be out for like six weeks to eight weeks

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like i'm talking first episode but it's our christmas present to you

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first on Floatplane and it'll be out first on Floatplane by that

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by that time Floatplane nope let's not go with that Floatplane might not even

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exist anymore for all we know who knows um

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but uh what i will say i'm you know there's gonna be no spoilers on the show

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today you guys but what i will say is a huge thank you to uh jay and dimitri for

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flying all the way up here the pleasure was all ours yes thank you

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for the invite cool i'm uh yeah i was like we had a lot of fun so that's

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that's the only spoiler i'll give you guys is it was a ton of fun

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and uh yeah you know what that's it

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that's it so and now radio silence and don't even bother trying to get anything

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out of these guys because they know the scrapyard wars code yeah say

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something and die i mean

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it's more like um what what is it uh

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a say um things say and a i day

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you know we'll go with the pig latin version of the code

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but yeah i just like that we left it where it sits that's it in a nutshell

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um all right so guys first uh first article

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today this was posted by stay ass on the forum and the original article here how

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do i click a link on a mac what the hell is this yes okay okay

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uh yeah no spoilers okay i just wanna now it works

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don't just don't push it to the first brush oh pressure what why pressure i know

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pressure and then i go i go to i go to use the touch screen to to zoom and it's like no

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you'll have to do ah i want my computer back

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okay anyway anyway um aib partners to gamers nexus this was

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supposed to buy steve burke you know stephen right yeah you know stephen yeah okay

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uh gibbo was right about AMD price changing i like his hair

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AMD basically came out of the gate with vega 56 and vega 64 with and i think you

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guys and your reviews probably agreed vega 64 looks

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400 dollar king okay for compute anyway

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it looks like price of vega 64 was supposed to be 500

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but quickly shot to 600 us dollars in the wake of

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immediate inventory selling out so is this actual msrp

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yeah let's see yeah cause we can't really blame them

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for that so this is interesting apparently what does the website say AMD

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provided the top retailers and e-tailers with a 4.99 price on vegas 64 coupling

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sale of the card with a rebate to reduce spend by retailers

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um so basically that's uh like it's usually called like a pos rebate a

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point-of-sale rebate apparently the rebate is already expiring

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hence the price jump by retailers

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oh it was that fast yeah well see this is something that is kind of not public

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knowledge this is more and i'm sure i'm over like the statute

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of limitations for my old job as a

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product manager but it is um

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uh it is pretty tight to be an AMD partner

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being an NVIDIA add-in card partner i think they call

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them aibs and i think AMD calls them aics adding card versus add-in board

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right being an NVIDIA partner versus an AMD

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partner is supposedly a lot better

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now xfx you guys probably remember this yeah yeah uh when did they jump ship

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uh AMD yeah like was it like four thousand six six thousand oh sorry uh

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six thousand series oh no no it was four thousand series i think you're right so

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it was like so that was when AMD looked

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because they were competing against um

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was that the 480 generation or had they just g was out then they just hadn't

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refreshed in forever basically

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they they turned tail on NVIDIA and they went to AMD

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and um my understanding is that it's been

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pretty rough over there is is all i can all i can really say but

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it looks like here having effectively been increased

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i think it's only going to be beneficial for those that are using the compute performance honestly not as a gaming

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card right because at that point it makes no sense now you're talking 1080ti

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pricing which dominates it in games

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but at the exact same time not not in terms of making sense but AMD right now

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has a very aggressive very dedicated fan base

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that's true so it might not even matter my my concern with this though was that

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that fan base is usually though attached to the performance per dollar aspect of

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being an AMD fan uh yeah but AMD has put a lot of work

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into making it a rebellious stance instead of just necessarily a

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performance per dollar because they were definitely performance per dollar uh

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like with the 3000 series Intel processors and

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like a couple generations back with like 200 series AMD graphics cards but more

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recently i feel like they've been shifting it i think the bigger question

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you told me right though i think the bigger question here the one that

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affects our audience and the one that affects us as reviewers more

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is this artificial rebate

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that's only valid for i mean the card only launched what a week ago

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so a rebate that they're putting on the card for a week to hit a price

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that isn't sustainable that affects your conclusion about the

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card and yours and it's not like especially as youtubers it's not like we

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can go back and edit our article be like yeah the price

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to performance sucks donkey balls now and not not to flatter ourselves but

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that's where a lot of research is happening right now is youtube

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especially for people that are getting new into computers and might not think

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to check a whole bunch of different sites like written sites that can be

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updated like gamers next this guy we just talked about him he might say in

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his video pricing and stuff is in is on our website i've seen him say that

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before so that they can update it and that's cool but like for something like

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uh like a a 490 feeling changes yeah like a like a budget graphics card where

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they're going like we're the we're the new 499 or 399 king 399 king

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and then if we if our conclusion is check the link in the description for

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price for the most updated pricing on amazon but we say yeah AMD's positioned this

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card really well its performance looks great and the value is great

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if it's a if it's 80 or 100 more expensive i feel like what they've done

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is they've made NVIDIA feel like a more compelling

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deal or budget at that point i mean because 1070 right competes against 56

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and 56 was beating 1070 pretty much across the board but now you increase

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that price why would i want a 56 unless i'm going compute i mean if i can use

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the compute aspect of it then yeah it dominates both of them dominate what

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NVIDIA has to offer but the question is how many of these buyers are actually

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buying them for compute or to be a part of that rebellion nation yeah

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also will this affect any of the bundle stuff that the AMD is

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putting out right yeah it would have to so the bundles would have to go up by a hundred bucks too yeah

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i feel like yeah the bundles would just go up and i don't think anything else would change i don't think the bundles

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are going to get anything the bundles were a terrible idea to begin with i just really don't like being screwed

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around with like this yeah i don't like being manipulated in a way where like

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there's there's a couple things and you know what it's one of those things where i'm not just gonna crap on AMD for this

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like you and i have talked about this offline i think i might have mentioned it to you but i was really really

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displeased when NVIDIA had a separate unboxing embargo

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for the 1080 ti because you know what that is

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that's NVIDIA saying

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max do you need some help over there maybe no

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what are we changing i don't know it looks tilted and i had to fix it okay

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all right focus now i really would have just maybe

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left it also point it towards Linus a little bit more

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that's a bit okay okay let's just let's not touch it anymore okay

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um hey thanks max okay what were we talking about again your time at the

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unboxing right okay so there were a couple things wrong

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with that number one was that paul had already done an unboxing at the event

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and that's nothing against yeah because why not super cool but i think they saw

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the traction that that sort of got and then they came up with the idea of like oh we better reel this in and you know

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put an embargo on this because what they're trying to get because

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that effectively what they're getting when they do a launch event we all

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accept it because it gives us access to talk to the developers of the product

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right in a way that we don't get to on just a lot more helpful than a

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conference call yeah so so we we all accept these events that they

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do because it's also an opportunity to network within the industry most of the

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time i've spent with you guys it has has been events industry events

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but what's really frustrating is that NVIDIA

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controls the narrative at that point because any news story and we have to do

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a news story because everybody else is going to do a new story so that's my

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upload that day that's jay's upload that day that's dimitri's upload that day

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that's other content that might be more meaningful because it's not just

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regurgitating the same information everybody has that isn't going up

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because we're busy traveling for a day yeah spending it at an event and then

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traveling back for another day we just spent one percent of our year

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on this event to make the same piece of content that everybody else is making

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for me personally and they're okay they're nice yeah there can be some value to that

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because people might have different opinions or insights or ideas about how

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something might be used blah blah blah but it's a lot it's a lot to put on one

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it's a it's pretty unlikely that you'll have a lot of unique insights well not even

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that this is kind of off topic a little bit but then it goes as far as starting to

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break down the information like you can get this piece of information we get

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this piece later this piece tomorrow right the pricing issue that happened with 1080 ti which is a huge issue yeah

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so what this looks like to me because NVIDIA is effectively getting marketing

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out of bringing people to this event they're just regurgitating whatever was

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on NVIDIA slides because that's all the information we have so far we don't have

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any benchmarks like how fast is the the

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uber card 10 000 or whatever

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so then there's that date let's say let's say march 1st for the sake of

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argument then march 14th would be the

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review embargo typically or yeah like they ever give us two weeks yeah yeah

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maybe like march 8th would be the review embargo that gives us a week to get back

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home test it formulate our opinions and go okay that thing we talked about a

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week ago here's the real skinny now they're putting this additional day

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a few days later where they're going okay now you can publish your unboxing

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here's the problem with that the unboxing contains no information

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that's new yeah and especially when it's not even retail packaging yeah it's just

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a physical showcase

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it's just a glamour video yeah i think they should be paying for that because

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effectively what they're getting is marketing so when NVIDIA sent us an embargo for an

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unboxing of the 1080 ti i basically sent them back an angry email went this is bs

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you guys are asking for free advertising no

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no NVIDIA no hard no right yeah yeah

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yeah so AMD went and pulled the same thing with threadripper on the CPU side

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and then on the GPU side honestly this feels even worse in some

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way because instead of instead of asking for free marketing what they've done is

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they've manipulated the conclusions of what is supposed to be an independent

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evaluation yeah i mean like you said it's so close to

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the launch date that's i mean our reviews are still not

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even cooled off yet and now that whole the whole budget factor of it is just

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wrong and like i'm sure

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one maybe two guys will make a video about that right yeah but there's only

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enough space for that because honestly most people in the audience won't really

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care they won't care in terms of like oh i'm going to watch all of these videos

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because i'm that interested you know what i mean nope so then it's the the

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roi on making one of those isn't really there for the creators so then they're

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probably not going to make it yep and is the rebate information

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available to to the reviewers until a certain point i didn't know anything

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about no rebate yeah i i didn't know anything about it and i didn't know that

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it was going to be expiring after a week yeah

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if they had been upfront about that then this is a totally different conversation

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and that's and that's not even that it doesn't even mention the fact

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that they only launched with bendel's to begin with anyway yeah really hard to

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find a card by itself the bundles were the only thing you could find all the

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retailers were doing bundles yep and i mean like if we want to keep going on

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about grievances with the rx vega launch um

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you know when did you get your vega 56

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um friday before the lunch yeah so we got

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it friday morning before what was it a monday 6 a.m launch yeah so

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if anyone from AMD's watching i'ma break this down for you

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saturday and sunday are both considered weekends

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and it is fairly typical for people who have a

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life or a family or both

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i don't know if anyone has both or none

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can you have a life and a family okay whatever not the point the point

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the point is that those two days are weekend days which are generally

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considered the days that you spend having a life or having a family right

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so then we have to make the choice right so i have to tell my wife and my kids

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last minute like hey i've got to work all day saturday oh and by the way i'm

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going to be leaving for a whole week right after that you know so i lose a

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whole a whole saturday with them yep and literally that was

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we just added a whole sixth workday to the week just to handle that well you

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could just you could just wait and you could you could just publish so here's

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the thing we had vega 64 like a week before and we had the drivers and

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everything and we were told that vega 56

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was going to be coming was going to be lifted way later like quite a bit later

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so we weren't so we were like we were like yeah everything's fine and then a

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card literally arrived here friday morning

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at 56 and i was like what are we supposed to do with a message asking to prioritize it

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did they for you yeah oh i don't i think we didn't get that until like even later

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in the day yeah i know the message was 56 is coming please please prioritize it

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if you can i got a new driver on the weekend yeah no no you're absolutely right and

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remember guys this is a 6 a.m pacific

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launch time so you have to be done the night before so you actually have to be rendering

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your video by like sunday evening

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because there might be errors there may be things you have to correct the render might not work there might be edits you

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have to make because of a problem taryn's very intimately

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familiar with this yeah so

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well it's kind of like right before the new CPU platform launches too right how many BIOS updates are there like up to

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the day of launch i would be it's really funny people are joking in the twitch

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chat about like youtuber union or something like that

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here is an interesting thought oh i'm directly what if every

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tech guy on youtube got together and said no

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screw your embargo we'll go when we're all ready i've kind

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of started doing that vegas the first actual embargo date i've

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hit in a long time thread didn't hit ryzen three five and seven i didn't hit

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Intel i didn't usually go for like two three days after everybody published two

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three weeks sometimes because i'm tired of the situation like Linus is talking

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about and what you're talking about with last minute drivers and stuff that i just wait for things to kind of settle

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and then i go into it start making a like review embargo alliance

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yeah review embargo alliance because like

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we had to pull in we had to pull in multiple people on a saturday yeah to

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come in basically because the video was completely done

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yeah by the time we had a vega 56 in our hand

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yeah yeah so teren's over there informing us that it was indeed him that

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edited it all too yeah so now he has like that didn't get to go anywhere i've

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just gotten so sick and tired of all the last minute changes and the way it actually changes the whole landscape uh

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that i've just decided like i'm no longer going to abide by the embargo

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dates trying to hit them if i'm late that's fine enough my audience is willing to wait and watch it anyway yeah

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but i'm tired of feeling like i'm just an extension of someone else's marketing team so tell me this

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um oh shoot i completely lost track of what i was going to say there bloody

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hell sorry it's been a long week

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it has something something embargo something embargo union

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yeah something something etc yeah forget

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it i got nothing so uh basically i'm frustrated it's stupid and

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uh i've had enough of this crap

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oh now i'm really frustrated it was like a

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it was like a great discussion thing i was really looking forward to talk about

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something very temporarily while you can try to think about that do you want to

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talk about what the the the premise or the rules were for the scrapyard wars

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yeah go ahead go ahead so for this scrapyard wars the idea was instead of

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starting at the office and working out of the office the entire time like we

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have in the past we had two teams should we see what the teams were yeah

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absolutely that's already public oh okay yeah so oh right that makes

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sense so it's myself and jay and Linus and dimitri and we started out actually

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in the city of vancouver which is about an hour from here and we had a fair

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amount of cash i can say how much but a fair amount of cash but some of that

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cash had to be allocated to food and water

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you had no budget for food you couldn't just buy food normally scrapbook was you

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could buy whatever food you wanted while you're going with your own money um but

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this time to be fair it didn't have to it's just if it's allocated from your

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budget yeah anything you spent anything you need anything you had to come out of

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that budget if you wanted to bike somewhere you'd have to buy or rent a

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bike if you wanted to transit somewhere further out you'd have to get a bus pass

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or a transit pass of some sort or get a cab or whatever

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so yeah it was it was a very interesting setup both teams

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decided to go at it in certain ways that i'm not going to describe because i'm

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worried about going too deeply into it uh but yeah it was very interesting and

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quite a bit different from any other scrapyard worse than being an empty cup

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i'm just laughing all the get jay water comments because i took a drink from an empty cup i was like oh

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i'm trying to make up for all the water that you know we needed yes yeah don't

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spoil it water doesn't spoil

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that's well what no this uh don't say you figured it out

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yeah i never figured out what it was but i had really like just wanted to talk a

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little bit more about um sort of how they're handling it and how it's uh

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we've had to do it before we've had to delay videos we've missed embargoes

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which are fairly important but we've found not the

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most important thing and sometimes it helps if there does happen to be a

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change yeah because then we can talk about the change and that one video will

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pick up traction but it's usually only us or only jay or only dimitri or

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only one type of creator that's making that one delayed video i

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do wonder what the what the the fallout would be not really fallout

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but what would the impact be if suddenly the entire tech scene on youtube just

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said no we're not gonna hit your embargo we all collectively say we'll wait two

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weeks to see where things land because we'd still be in that window of

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AMD pulling this or would they just postpone this i don't know i don't know how they'd

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react because i told them i think you guys should push it

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i think they might i think they might think initially especially something like NVIDIA right they might think that

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there's not gonna be any impact whatsoever but that's that'd be an interesting metric to see how it

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actually plays out i don't think NVIDIA gives two craps what any of us think i

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think you're right to be perfectly honest um it's really funny because like i

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think you take this somewhat too but we we take flack all the time for being in

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NVIDIA's pocket or whatever somewhat i think somewhat yeah yeah no

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we do when show is brought to you by NVIDIA so

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yeah according to the audience anyway so like it's it's one of those things where

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like you know i've butted heads with them a fair number of

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times recently more often than i like go to a nice

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dinner and you know talk shop

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it's been it's been it's been pretty tough lately actually

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all right so let's have a look at uh we didn't get titan xp

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needed today until like now yeah we have one now yeah cause they were like oh

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what you guys don't have one i was like no i asked for one for terry crews and

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they said no seriously what they turned me down until i made that video talk like talking crap

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about titan xp which would have gone out regardless because i think it's a really

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stupid card based on like the way they're locking down the cuda cores and

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yeah they're unlocking it multiple times in the same generation uh but it was after that they're like

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two of them just showed up right right so they they hand delivered

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them yeah i was like they're not even for me i don't even care right they're not for

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me and like this is this is a stupid thing on both the vendor side and the

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audience side do you guys honestly think

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that jay can be bought with a graphics card that doesn't pay my lease

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doesn't pay for my employees my insurance do you need more graphics

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cards jay it's pretty obvious i don't sell them i mean you can see the shop you know

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no i they they do not run my business in fact i started buying more stuff than

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ever now i've noticed that you were talking about buying lots of stuff for

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yourself just it's just easier and it's getting

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right away you don't have to yeah yep and now with your scrap yard work

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experience you can buy more stuff too with someone else's money which is great

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speaking of someone else's money the show today is brought to you by

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cablemod yeah i've got some stuff over there yeah okay

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so cablemod now has

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sleeving for aios have you guys seen

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this have you heard about this yeah oh okay i did a great review that was very

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well received oh okay i didn't watch it i know you didn't watch it either um

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so basically you buy your aio and then with no actual modification required you

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guys can go watch jay's video because we didn't review them um

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but there you go you just kind of unfold it and then you don't have to like take

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off the tubing or anything like that you just wrap it around and you end up with

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that nice sleeved look on your aio cooler tubes and matches your cabling

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assuming you went and bought cable mod cabling and

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that's pretty much it they've got little finishing pieces for the end so they

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look nice and tidy and uh what else can i really say about

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it i mean it's a pretty simple idea it just took someone to do it the colors do

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specifically match their cable sleeving so they're perfectly mesh for that so

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they've got lots and lots of different colors you guys can go check them out

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they've also just launched their sleeving kits on amazon so we've got a

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link in the video description for that but basically it's uh hold on a second

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and can i even figure out how to do this on a mac

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holy crap you can't you can't right click it's two finger click copy you have to

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like to finger tap it two finger tap ah it took me a while so i'm not signed in

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so forget it uh the link will be below the video i'll get it

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he's gonna go no i want Linus to do it now he said he would no i'll do it i'll do it okay i got Linus to get up and

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all right i will go get you some water thank you sir and uh you can go ahead

446
00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:33,279
and pick one of those if you want i'm not going to make you do it though because they're like my girlfriend would

447
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,640
die savage is right in the name oh really this is too spicy okay you got a

448
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,919
giant piece in there i think you'll be good i love habanero yeah i think you'll be

449
00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:45,200
good yeah will i be good if you will if you if you don't like spice don't eat

450
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:49,520
that one but if you like spice it's it's good but the mojo one's not hot no the

451
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,480
mohawk one's a one it's like it's not even supposed to be hot

452
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,440
good yeah yeah give me two minutes i'll be sweating

453
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,760
yeah the reapers the reaper is a bit of a kick that one kind of sucks that's a

454
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:11,360
five sucks in terms of like it hurts it tastes good to be fair

455
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:14,960
the only thing i don't like is like um the powder like sometimes like you

456
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:18,000
breathe the powder yeah but no flavor is really good because they try to they

457
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,640
they go pretty hard with the flavor stuff which i like for beef jerky i

458
00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:26,880
think that's one of the reasons why that's something so much i'm cool with hot

459
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:29,840
yeah no it's not it's not too hot i swear

460
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,520
i'm cool with hot if it has flavor but yeah hot for the sake of hot noise i'm

461
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,559
the same way yeah i can deal with a fair amount of spice but it's i only it's not

462
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:40,480
even like water helps with the with habanero i'm just thirsty yeah

463
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:44,720
all right i'm gonna drop a bomb on you guys uh this was originally posted by

464
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:48,799
numlock21 on the forum the original article here is from videocards.com so

465
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:53,000
take it with a grain of salt uh Intel claims

466
00:31:51,440 --> 00:32:02,159
the core i7 8700k will be 11 faster than the 7700k

467
00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:07,760
and here's what i want to know because this is crazy well it is to be

468
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:11,360
fair this is a whole entire one percent higher than i would have guessed this is

469
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:17,039
what i want to know who needed Intel to claim this

470
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:20,960
to know that this was coming yeah i mean this is literally

471
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,480
this does this mean about does this mean that they're not

472
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,559
scared okay so here's the thing so there's two

473
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:34,240
things first of all the rumors are also that coffee lake is going to be

474
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:38,720
available in six core configurations which would legit be good okay so if

475
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:42,480
they're so they're keeping their 10 and adding course if they're 10 faster in

476
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:47,200
terms of ipc and they're adding

477
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:52,240
50 more cores then i'm looking at this going

478
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:57,279
that's a good job thank you for what should have happened two years ago but

479
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:04,159
okay yeah fine thank you i mean i'll i still appreciate

480
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:08,320
them doing something good even if it was a long time coming

481
00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:12,159
and should have happened before so the 8700 kids is going to be the six core

482
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:17,919
excuse me it's supposed to be six core 12 thread with a single threaded boost

483
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,919
over the 7700k of about 11 percent yet

484
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:22,399
there'll still be an i5 and x299 at that time

485
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:30,159
uh yeah cause x299 is not gonna refresh by then so yeah i mean this is this is yet

486
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:37,600
another reason i mean you know okay you know my feelings i know your feelings on

487
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:39,440
the 7740 and the 7640. those two skus

488
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:44,240
make no sense at all and when coffee lake launches

489
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:49,279
those skus remember the whole point of the high-end desktop platform is

490
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:56,640
supposed to be mucho memory bandwidth mucho pci e-lanes and mucho processing

491
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,720
cores and moho jerky those chips have

492
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,720
none of those things they have beefed up power delivery so

493
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:07,519
theoretically you can overclock them a little higher they're still dual core they still have the mainstream platform

494
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:12,800
number of PCIe lanes and they're still quad core processors and they're pulling significantly more power than their

495
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:17,679
mainstream counterparts and now compared to the mainstream platform

496
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:22,000
that's coming oh i don't know what it's rumored to be launching what in it

497
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:25,599
so it would be three months later if the rumors are true

498
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:32,560
it will be two generations behind architecturally two

499
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:36,800
and that might only be ten percent per generation or you know eight percent or

500
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:40,399
whatever but still two generations times ten percent is not complicated math

501
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,200
that's twenty percent so if you had a five gigahertz processor let's say

502
00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:47,599
you're an overclocker it's actually better than that because ten percent on top of ten

503
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,800
percent that's right so let's say you're you're an overclocker uh you get to five

504
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:56,320
gigahertz we're talking about now on this high-end

505
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,720
platform you would be equivalent to the

506
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:02,599
mainstream's performance at what like four gigahertz right

507
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:10,000
well that's not good yeah why did i just go spend 350 on a

508
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:15,359
motherboard Intel because they're hoping you're gonna just step forward or future compatibility

509
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:19,280
with more expensive bigger but why would you still spend you know almost 400 on

510
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,880
that CPU for getting the i7 that's the thing it's like i get that argument if

511
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:29,040
it's like a pentium dual core or something and that's devil's advocate argument as far as i'm concerned right

512
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:32,240
like like i've seen that before like pentium anniversary edition where we're

513
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,640
talking a hundred dollar chip right you buy something to to get running today

514
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:40,400
you hope it doesn't drop in value too much you flip because a hundred dollar

515
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,400
CPU if it drops in value twenty percent we're talking twenty bucks yeah

516
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:48,720
right and if you if you've managed to save up your 400 or 500 or whatever you

517
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:54,079
need for an eight-core processor by that point then surely the 20 is not that big of a

518
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:58,720
deal some time has passed i get that logic but here we're talking about a 300

519
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:02,000
plus dollar processor that you're buying as a placeholder

520
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:06,720
doesn't make sense do you guys buy a 300 processor as a placeholder in the socket

521
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:10,000
i i don't really buy processors as placeholders

522
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:14,400
right and we never recommend that no

523
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:18,800
do do you guys ever recommend that buy heart buy hardware that isn't what

524
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,920
you actually need and then like like buy something else later yeah i know i would

525
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,480
unless you're like crazy like craigslist or use site junkie

526
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,960
because like you've done this kind of stuff but you're constantly flipping things so you were never planning on

527
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:35,200
holding it for more than like possibly even two weeks but even then it doesn't

528
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,480
matter you're not buying new anyway no yeah exactly so yeah so it's not even

529
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:45,920
applicable so like i could see buying a 7740 from some idiot who bought it

530
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:49,680
realized that this was really stupid and then it's like oh crap this thing isn't

531
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:55,520
worth much i guess i'll just take a bath on it i could buy from that guy yeah and then

532
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:58,240
then i do buy myself a few months to save up and i can probably flip it for

533
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:03,520
pretty close to what i paid but i wouldn't buy something like that new no

534
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,920
that's why i threw mine in an htpc just because i was like what else am i going

535
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,240
to do with this oh i'll take the chip that doesn't make sense and put it in a form factor does it make sense for an

536
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:15,440
x299 platform to begin with so that my whole video was based on that

537
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,480
i just figured we'd put nonsense on top of nonsense

538
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:23,440
and then i called it my vr rig on top of that there you go oh

539
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:24,960
vr capable vr cable sticker put it on

540
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,079
we got to get as reviewers we need to get our own vr capable stickers and just

541
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:32,160
start putting them on every single it's a watermark on the video channel oh

542
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,200
perfectly already this video is vr ready yes but it's really not well you could

543
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,160
technically if you put it in theater mode oh true yeah watch it in vr theater

544
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:44,720
yes figured out vr ready this is vr ready

545
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:48,640
life is vr ready oh right yeah because you could buy an

546
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:53,200
oculus or anything else in life which means that it's vr ready i

547
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,800
was going with sony vr or whatever it is oh yeah also that

548
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:03,960
what yeah okay uh so the original article

549
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:08,960
here is from ours technica i've been completely out of the loop this week so

550
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:15,040
this isn't that crazy i can kind of explain why uh so apple is

551
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:18,880
investing a huge amount uh it says they're going all in but apple has a lot

552
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:24,000
of money yeah billion dollars is not all in so not at all um but they're they're

553
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:28,320
putting a billion dollar budget to apple shows uh so they're doing like the first

554
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,839
original series from them was planet of the apps and carpool karaoke and they're

555
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,520
doing more but this isn't that surprising netflix is going really

556
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,640
hardcore into original content they're going to be putting these shows on the

557
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:46,079
apple music thing so they probably need to rename that but oh well um a lot of

558
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:50,079
these big companies that are trying to serve video are going into original

559
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,040
content because licensing especially from

560
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:58,000
like big movies and big shows if you want to have all of them is obscenely

561
00:38:56,240 --> 00:39:01,359
prohibitively expensive and this is something you and i have discussed um

562
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:05,119
apparently there isn't a video streaming platform

563
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:09,760
online like a significant one i mean that's

564
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:13,520
losing money yeah and you know now that we are really

565
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:16,320
digging and sometimes there sometimes they're parts of bigger companies and

566
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:20,560
then they don't care that they're not losing money or it's offset by some other aspect of the business exactly

567
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:26,320
yeah but the actual video streaming division

568
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:28,800
whether we're talking youtube um amazon

569
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:33,839
prime video netflix twitch as far as we can tell

570
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,960
they're all losing money and like hearing from certain people that work at

571
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:41,119
some of those companies not all of them but some of those companies we know people that

572
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,119
i think we know at least someone at pretty much all of them yeah

573
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,000
which makes moves like disney pulling all of their movies off of netflix to

574
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,480
have their own streaming service just really make you scratch your head i mean i know disney has disney money to

575
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:57,440
spend but still no company wants to bleed money but they all they already have a website and they've already been

576
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,400
streaming their own video to be fair so they just have to scale up yeah but you

577
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:04,000
you could get their stuff in other places now now their video is gonna be

578
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,960
available only on one source so they're gonna have to probably upscale anyway

579
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,320
and that way they can control the pricing too they can they can just they

580
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,720
can control the content that goes around it disney cares about that a lot yeah

581
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,880
they do and also users already getting familiar with needing to get their hands

582
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,400
into so many other platforms yeah and you know how we were talking about there's gonna be sites that pop up that

583
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:27,119
bring everything together they already exist right oh all right well there's already a thing yeah

584
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:31,599
so you just kind of like log in with all your logins there and then it just becomes a single house becomes one

585
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,200
viewing site yeah so like i got tons of tweets about

586
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:40,320
that last time yeah i think they're actually you know what i feel really stupid now because i know samsung had a

587
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:43,359
thing built into their smart tvs like a while back that mixes it all together

588
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,880
for years that actually it's just a browser of the other browsers yeah it

589
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:50,160
just goes and finds and it can even browse uh rental services like google

590
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:53,760
play oh that's neat you know what's really funny is on the subject of apple

591
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:59,040
uh doing their own original programming and like they should probably change the

592
00:40:55,359 --> 00:41:02,480
name of like itunes now i

593
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,920
i gave google so much crap about google

594
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:09,040
play store back when they did it now

595
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:16,160
it totally makes sense yeah yeah play music play games play videos oh

596
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,520
they actually got that one right yep way to go google

597
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:22,160
i just did it way ahead of time when in the moment it didn't make a ton of sense

598
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:28,160
it just made a lot more sense in the future they were playing they were playing 3d chess they were doing the

599
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:31,280
long game and i was playing with you wow

600
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:35,200
that was that was what was going on there i didn't get it i mean that you

601
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:40,480
were you were making children at that point in time no not yet okay yeah no

602
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:44,560
not yet no uh that was a solo effort oh that's why it was just playing solo

603
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:48,880
effort i see yes okay yeah yeah yeah

604
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,920
still a fun game i'm surprised that with the one billion here

605
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:01,520
i put up the green screen picture from earlier and someone did that oh no

606
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:04,720
i love how you said that oh no

607
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,280
show him the other one these guys

608
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:11,520
they can't check out at jay's two cents uh actually

609
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:15,200
here i can i can pull it up yeah it's pretty it's pretty

610
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:18,400
so we we dimitri knight earlier if you guys follow our social media we stood in

611
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,040
front of their green screen and uh it was you know to give you guys an

612
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:26,319
opportunity to key out and play around with green screen pictures there's some good awesome there's some really good

613
00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:30,960
creative people out there my goodness just go to media oh there it is yeah

614
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:34,880
also make sure to to tag some of them might not be appropriate so you might

615
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:37,880
not want to scroll live okay there it is well there's there's

616
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,319
the one we were looking for

617
00:42:40,319 --> 00:42:46,000
that's your thinking up there jay would your wife approve who is that who is

618
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:50,319
that foxy uh foxy foxy babe

619
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,640
oh what is going on here dang it apple

620
00:42:53,040 --> 00:43:00,319
what's up that's the sun okay

621
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:02,800
oh man that's great

622
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:08,240
oh my god that's that is great

623
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:15,040
all right see you we know have fun we can have fun

624
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:19,680
somehow work all right so here's some potentially big news so

625
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,240
pcgamer.com reports and i'm just gonna close this ad before i screen share with

626
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:28,319
you guys NVIDIA's next-gen volta gaming gpus

627
00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:32,640
not arriving anytime soon well why would they so this picture right here is

628
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:37,920
jensen showing off volta already super duper definitely working

629
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,520
in the data center which means based on the way that NVIDIA rolls out

630
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:47,040
product they launched their big GPU first

631
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:50,079
and whatever product that is it used to be GeForce

632
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,680
now it never is but i'm not bitter and video launches their

633
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:58,000
big one first which means they've got the architecture

634
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:01,280
down and then they just they just cut they cut and cut and cut and the

635
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:05,440
performance goes down according to how much they cut away

636
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,960
that process usually takes like two to three months per per cut because there

637
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:14,079
is an art it's obviously more complicated than just like taking a pair

638
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:15,359
of scissors to a you know uh to a v100

639
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:19,280
and like taping that to a pcb like

640
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,200
um so there's r d that is involved with that and you've only got so many engineers at a time it's a resource

641
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:27,440
management thing so based on when they showed off

642
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:31,760
working like production volta silicon

643
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:36,000
it's been a while they could probably be launching a GeForce card now if they

644
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:40,079
felt like there's no reason to there's no mark there's there's no competition

645
00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:44,720
for them to do it and they push back uh their hbm already generations from when

646
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,760
the original roadmap back in like 2012 was leaked yeah it was maxwell i believe

647
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,119
was when we were supposed to first see facebook hpm that was super duper but

648
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:56,079
they they now look at vega and they're just like why even invest in the manufacturing cost of this when we don't

649
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:58,720
have to when our when our traditional architecture is still topping the

650
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:04,240
competition and the other thing too is like NVIDIA strategically you've seen it over the

651
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:09,920
last five years has moved from try to make the GPU faster faster faster to try

652
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,839
to build out technology around the GPU

653
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:16,160
whether it's stuff that doesn't make a ton of sense to me personally like ansel

654
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,040
is that that screenshotting thing where you can capture like super

655
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,960
high resolution still do you guys know anyone that uses that have you used it

656
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:26,240
i've used it only in the demo version just to see how

657
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:30,160
high resolution you can go if you go like crank up the settings but outside

658
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:33,839
of seeing how beautiful you can turn those screenshots for like which are

659
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,960
three in the other games i've never done if you want like a big

660
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,000
poster in your on your own i have never used it ever like i'll tell you guys

661
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:46,000
this i remember this was a weird experience for me at a lan party this was back when like i went to lan party

662
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:50,960
so clearly i like played video games but i wasn't really like i didn't have like

663
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:53,040
a guild or like a clan or anything like

664
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,720
that so being like really into video games was kind of alien to me

665
00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:02,319
and there were these two people at a land and it's only like a 45-50 person

666
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:08,800
land um which like it's big but it's not that big they spent like two hours

667
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:11,440
literally it felt like you know uncle

668
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:17,040
harold's like vacation pictures one of them was showing the other one an

669
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:20,720
album of wow screenshots yeah like this was the time we climbed to the top of

670
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:24,480
frickin some mountain and whoever clicked through the thing and like

671
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,240
whoever clipped through the thing so it was hyjal what i don't know what you're talking

672
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:31,599
about so see no this this this this might have been pretty cool okay one

673
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:36,640
thing wild screenshots was like a big deal because you'd show boss kills

674
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:40,160
and you'd usually have like the time stamp so if you were like world first or

675
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:44,960
server first or whatever you could show the boss kill um it could be and if he's

676
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:48,319
talking about mike don't hide the kill and this is when you were at

677
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:53,599
lan parties so this was probably classic wow correct yeah in classic wow you were

678
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:58,640
not allowed to get to mount hyjal so he probably has a similar screenshot set to

679
00:46:55,599 --> 00:47:00,560
me which is glitching through many walls

680
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,079
and over many things and it takes like quite a while to get there and you're

681
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:08,800
just like screwing the game repeatedly and you get to a part of the game that

682
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,079
has like blizzard co construction signs

683
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:14,880
and there's stuff that never got released that's in there

684
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:18,560
like archimonde's like big giant skull leaning up against this tree and stuff

685
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:22,560
which was never in the game so it was actually super cool and it was glitchers

686
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:28,400
it wasn't necessarily just people that are interested in wow because i was a glitcher back then i broke like every

687
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:32,720
single aspect of halo 2. um a friend of mine utah crusher i

688
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:36,800
haven't talked to you in many years but this guy named utah crusher and i used

689
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,400
to play halo 2 together and we were like in the first group of

690
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:44,000
people that found the switching from rocket to a sword and flying across the

691
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:48,800
entire map glitch if you knew that one i killed hogger you

692
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,000
would do this thing where the rocket the the rocket you could aim at someone

693
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:55,040
and it would show it would show red because you were targeting them right

694
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:59,760
do you remember that i never played halo 2 that's an xbox game

695
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:06,400
okay whatever man if you if i think it happened in halo 1 too if you aimed over

696
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:08,319
top of someone the aimer would turn red

697
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:13,200
anyways i don't remember um that long time ago that was like a state and the

698
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,800
sword if the aimer was red you would lunge towards them and the state was

699
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:21,359
shared so if you switched it fast enough and lunged it wouldn't notice

700
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:24,720
that it wasn't in that state anymore so it would let you lunge to the person but

701
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,359
they're super far away because it's the targeting from the rocket launcher so

702
00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:32,319
you just like and just fly it it was pretty cool we did a lot of other

703
00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:36,640
stuff too i'm gonna stop that so i'll say this

704
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,800
many many of the screenshots were just like here's me and this other person in

705
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:46,720
a meadow no it was really bad

706
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:48,640
so okay anyway back to back to the topic

707
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:52,480
um a lot some of the stuff in videos building doesn't make a ton of sense to

708
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:58,319
me like ansel um but some of the stuff they're building does make a ton of

709
00:48:54,079 --> 00:49:00,800
sense um things like uh streaming

710
00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:03,920
uh better better GPU-based encoding and decoding okay all that kind of stuff

711
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:09,680
does make sense to me um so pretty much what they're doing is

712
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:12,160
they're kind of going we don't even we don't even

713
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,800
need to develop a much much faster GPU every

714
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:23,280
year we're just going to like put more tech in it to the point where even if

715
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:26,079
the rx vega 556

716
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:29,200
was the same price as a gtx 1070 NVIDIA's whole thing on their side is

717
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:34,079
like we still think you should buy a 1070 anyway because we do release day

718
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:36,800
drivers every time oh by the way they're wickle wall

719
00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:41,040
um and then we've got all this other tech

720
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:45,839
we've got shadow play and and all that kind of stuff built into it

721
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,000
and uh you know AMD's approach is oh

722
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:51,359
yeah but like our approach is open and but you look at sometimes but the

723
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,760
video started opening stuff up too though sometimes open makes sense

724
00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:00,319
but only if you're actually doing any work yeah cause like look at okay so

725
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:04,079
stereoscopic 3d however much of an abortion you may or

726
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:08,240
may not think it is NVIDIA did a better job because they

727
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:12,640
actually did work on it whereas AMD was just like yeah through izad 3d and

728
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:17,119
whatever that other thing was uh you can enable stereoscopic 3d on our

729
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:20,720
cards but they were these janky third party did you ever try is 3d it's no i

730
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:27,599
didn't it was awesome i never did NVIDIA's 3d stuff either it was awful

731
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:28,880
like if you think 3d is bad imagine 3d

732
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:34,319
but like there's no oxygen so just to say 3d

733
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:38,400
ready or whatever yeah just just to just just to have the checkbox it was super

734
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:42,240
bad yeah we did testing for that a long time people are telling me to shut up

735
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,200
uh they think like three quarters of the chat is dimitri

736
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:53,280
in the chat yeah so much of it you talked yeah i mean you

737
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:57,040
gave them what they wanted okay here i've got something for dimitri to

738
00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:00,240
discuss uh this was posted by purina on the forum the original article here is

739
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:05,440
from ars technica and this blew my mind

740
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:11,119
bing is bigger than you think says microsoft with a quarter of uk searches

741
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,839
whoa wow so saying a quarter of the searches are

742
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:19,280
from uk no no a quarter of the uk's searches

743
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,280
are using bing 10 in spain nineteen percent

744
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:26,880
in france nine percent in uh

745
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:31,119
what type of use though is it whatever that is what are they searching

746
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:34,520
they're they're just looking to buy to download chrome

747
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:44,160
that's probably legit man apparently taiwan is as high as 25

748
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:47,920
percent the u.s is 33. yeah

749
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:53,119
the u.s is the biggest percentage 16 percent canada but these are just

750
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,960
what these are views these are just figures being put out by marketing the

751
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:01,119
lowest percentage because they may be just using type to

752
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,920
search which uses bing as your as your

753
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,839
search result i love how they're saying bing is bigger than you think and then

754
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:11,440
there's literally multiple single-digit percentages

755
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:16,319
yeah that is bigger than i think to be fair yeah but like damn guys i i

756
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:21,680
honestly think like dimitri said that's just because they're searching for another browser to download

757
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,240
33 of all traffic in the usa is not searching for another browser to

758
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,839
download like i'm not even just trying to be devil's advocate that's not

759
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:33,040
there's no way so if they're using cortana yeah cortana uses bing so

760
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,400
anytime you type that in click enter it

761
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:39,040
uh so that's just a that's just a falsified not really falsified but it's

762
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:42,079
it's skewed in that making it look like but i'm not going to being i don't use

763
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,599
cortana to begin with but if i do a search or something down here i'm not

764
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,280
searching bing i'm just searching here usually for something on my system but

765
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:52,720
yeah but that doesn't work that way most of the time it just gives you driver

766
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:56,800
download from from online but it searches for the

767
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:01,040
internet as well simultaneously when you search for something local so that

768
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:05,520
really a good representation of being usage yeah that and i accidentally use

769
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:09,920
bing a lot accidentally yeah so you contribute to that how many thirteen

770
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,960
percent sixteen percent canada so i'll like i'll launch edge because i

771
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:17,040
haven't bothered to install another browser yet and i'll search for something i'll be like oh crap

772
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:22,720
and then i'll have to sir someone in chat just said alexa uses

773
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:24,880
bing and alexa's huge in the states

774
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:30,079
oh okay that would maybe make sense why it's 33 there because apparently

775
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,359
globally it's about nine percent

776
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:36,000
ouch and then 33 percent in the usa that's

777
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,000
huge

778
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,960
even like hong kong

779
00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:47,839
that can't be right i'm pretty sure that's not right bing is for porn apparently

780
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:51,680
what yeah so a certain a certain friend of

781
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,319
ours in seattle would say that like i guess the algorithm for that is way

782
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,559
better oh a certain friend of ours in seattle

783
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:03,440
yeah well i'm not getting involved in that

784
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:07,359
thanks for tuning in to you guys um thanks again to jay and dimitri not

785
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:11,920
only for being here for scrapyard wars but also for being here on the show so

786
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:15,599
you can find jay over at uh i mean i know the answer is two cents

787
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:21,359
with a z not to be confused with the rapper yeah

788
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,359
and uh us at hardware conducts

789
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:31,520
yeah i'm just i'm leaving it because it's funny oh i'll do it there we go

790
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,640
oh we should have done a special intro with like you guys like on planes coming

791
00:54:33,839 --> 00:54:37,359
here that would have been real

792
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:44,240
i cool share some footage they're like biplanes little scarves and goggles do you do

793
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:44,240
like a box

794
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:50,960
yeah are you putting that on your channel yeah if you want to see a travel vlog go

795
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:55,599
to dimitri's channel hardware connections

796
00:54:53,200 --> 00:55:01,640
it's not my personal jam oh no no i'm collecting stuff still oh yeah that'll

797
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,640
be good though it'll be good