{"video_id":"evaBde4MKDQ","title":"Did AMD Deceive Consumers w/ Vega Pricing? - - WAN Show August 18, 2017","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2018-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":3301,"segments":[{"start_s":1.839,"end_s":7.12,"text":"all right it's when show time again and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.68,"end_s":12.32,"text":"you guys may or may not have noticed there's something a little different","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.16,"end_s":17.359,"text":"about the show today i know what it is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.88,"end_s":21.279,"text":"i'm screen sharing off a mac i'm using a mac oh no that's it isn't it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.16,"end_s":26.96,"text":"unsubbed i know right um so yeah we've got a couple special","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":25.279,"end_s":29.519,"text":"guests we've got jay's two cents from the youtube channel jay's two 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that'll","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":3298.0,"end_s":3301.64,"text":"be good though it'll be good","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"all right it's when show time again and you guys may or may not have noticed there's something a little different about the show today i know what it is i'm screen sharing off a mac i'm using a mac oh no that's it isn't it unsubbed i know right um so yeah we've got a couple special guests we've got jay's two cents from the youtube channel jay's two cents there's pretty much no way you guys don't know who he is and then we've got dimitri from hardware canucks who a lot of you will probably know who he is as well so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today uh what what are they oh yeah in unexpected news AMD's vega graphics cards are more expensive than msrp oh my god who saw that coming more vegan news oh wait i've got okay you guys are all being sarcastic which is kind of a dick move okay this is not a sarcastic show no okay this is uh this is a forthright and clear communicative show sentences in other news Intel claims that the 8700k will be about 11 faster than the 7700k cool can we just not say anything if we're going to be not sarcastic you know what if you guys aren't going to like you guys aren't going to do the show nicely then you could just go actually you know what no i'm just gonna go okay okay well after that we have probably the intro no show's over this is the end this is the end of everything the end of we know days you are the weakest like goodbye goodbye you are where'd you find that at the very bottom what what i was looking for it neither of us could find it just for that but well for that that was in like one of your main compartments neither of us could find it we were both looking for it yeah good job nick magic hands magic hands oops i clicked the wrong thing uh uh uh okay back on the oh oh no terrible everything's terrible what are you doing uh hold on hold on i got this uh uh okay there and uh sponsors what do you have there we go don't worry about it don't worry about the nascar hat there's reasons that will be revealed at another time yeah it has nothing to do with scrap yard wars or the closed toed shoes yeah not that these guys are here also has nothing to do yes nothing right we flew in for a WAN Show only okay so actually i think that's probably a great topic for us to start with uh guys get amped about the upcoming season of scrapyard of course it's probably not going to be out for like six weeks to eight weeks like i'm talking first episode but it's our christmas present to you first on Floatplane and it'll be out first on Floatplane by that by that time Floatplane nope let's not go with that Floatplane might not even exist anymore for all we know who knows um but uh what i will say i'm you know there's gonna be no spoilers on the show today you guys but what i will say is a huge thank you to uh jay and dimitri for flying all the way up here the pleasure was all ours yes thank you for the invite cool i'm uh yeah i was like we had a lot of fun so that's that's the only spoiler i'll give you guys is it was a ton of fun and uh yeah you know what that's it that's it so and now radio silence and don't even bother trying to get anything out of these guys because they know the scrapyard wars code yeah say something and die i mean it's more like um what what is it uh a say um things say and a i day you know we'll go with the pig latin version of the code but yeah i just like that we left it where it sits that's it in a nutshell um all right so guys first uh first article today this was posted by stay ass on the forum and the original article here how do i click a link on a mac what the hell is this yes okay okay uh yeah no spoilers okay i just wanna now it works don't just don't push it to the first brush oh pressure what why pressure i know pressure and then i go i go to i go to use the touch screen to to zoom and it's like no you'll have to do ah i want my computer back okay anyway anyway um aib partners to gamers nexus this was supposed to buy steve burke you know stephen right yeah you know stephen yeah okay uh gibbo was right about AMD price changing i like his hair AMD basically came out of the gate with vega 56 and vega 64 with and i think you guys and your reviews probably agreed vega 64 looks okay other than being a couple years late because it's basically an overclocked 980 ti and vega 56 looks pretty good it's the 400 dollar king okay for compute anyway okay so now it looks like price of vega 64 was supposed to be 500 but quickly shot to 600 us dollars in the wake of immediate inventory selling out so is this actual msrp and uh or is this just stores reacting i'm going with the latter yeah let's see yeah cause we can't really blame them for that so this is interesting apparently what does the website say AMD provided the top retailers and e-tailers with a 4.99 price on vegas 64 coupling sale of the card with a rebate to reduce spend by retailers um so basically that's uh like it's usually called like a pos rebate a point-of-sale rebate apparently the rebate is already expiring hence the price jump by retailers oh it was that fast yeah well see this is something that is kind of not public knowledge this is more and i'm sure i'm over like the statute of limitations for my old job as a product manager but it is um uh it is pretty tight to be an AMD partner i've gotten a lot of feedback in the industry over the years being an NVIDIA add-in card partner i think they call them aibs and i think AMD calls them aics adding card versus add-in board right being an NVIDIA partner versus an AMD partner is supposedly a lot better now xfx you guys probably remember this yeah yeah uh when did they jump ship uh AMD yeah like was it like four thousand six six thousand oh sorry uh six thousand series oh no no it was four thousand series i think you're right so it was like so that was when AMD looked because they were competing against um was that the 480 generation or had they just g was out then they just hadn't refreshed in forever basically they they turned tail on NVIDIA and they went to AMD and um my understanding is that it's been pretty rough over there is is all i can all i can really say but what are your guys's thoughts on the pricing of vega 64 in particular it looks like here having effectively been increased i think it's only going to be beneficial for those that are using the compute performance honestly not as a gaming card right because at that point it makes no sense now you're talking 1080ti pricing which dominates it in games but at the exact same time not not in terms of making sense but AMD right now has a very aggressive very dedicated fan base that's true so it might not even matter my my concern with this though was that that fan base is usually though attached to the performance per dollar aspect of being an AMD fan uh yeah but AMD has put a lot of work into making it a rebellious stance instead of just necessarily a performance per dollar because they were definitely performance per dollar uh like with the 3000 series Intel processors and like a couple generations back with like 200 series AMD graphics cards but more recently i feel like they've been shifting it i think the bigger question you told me right though i think the bigger question here the one that affects our audience and the one that affects us as reviewers more is this artificial rebate that's only valid for i mean the card only launched what a week ago so a rebate that they're putting on the card for a week to hit a price that isn't sustainable that affects your conclusion about the card and yours and it's not like especially as youtubers it's not like we can go back and edit our article be like yeah the price to performance sucks donkey balls now and not not to flatter ourselves but that's where a lot of research is happening right now is youtube especially for people that are getting new into computers and might not think to check a whole bunch of different sites like written sites that can be updated like gamers next this guy we just talked about him he might say in his video pricing and stuff is in is on our website i've seen him say that before so that they can update it and that's cool but like for something like uh like a a 490 feeling changes yeah like a like a budget graphics card where they're going like we're the we're the new 499 or 399 king 399 king and then if we if our conclusion is check the link in the description for price for the most updated pricing on amazon but we say yeah AMD's positioned this card really well its performance looks great and the value is great if it's a if it's 80 or 100 more expensive i feel like what they've done is they've made NVIDIA feel like a more compelling deal or budget at that point i mean because 1070 right competes against 56 and 56 was beating 1070 pretty much across the board but now you increase that price why would i want a 56 unless i'm going compute i mean if i can use the compute aspect of it then yeah it dominates both of them dominate what NVIDIA has to offer but the question is how many of these buyers are actually buying them for compute or to be a part of that rebellion nation yeah also will this affect any of the bundle stuff that the AMD is putting out right yeah it would have to so the bundles would have to go up by a hundred bucks too yeah i feel like yeah the bundles would just go up and i don't think anything else would change i don't think the bundles are going to get anything the bundles were a terrible idea to begin with i just really don't like being screwed around with like this yeah i don't like being manipulated in a way where like there's there's a couple things and you know what it's one of those things where i'm not just gonna crap on AMD for this like you and i have talked about this offline i think i might have mentioned it to you but i was really really displeased when NVIDIA had a separate unboxing embargo for the 1080 ti because you know what that is that's NVIDIA saying max do you need some help over there maybe no what are we changing i don't know it looks tilted and i had to fix it okay all right focus now i really would have just maybe left it also point it towards Linus a little bit more that's a bit okay okay let's just let's not touch it anymore okay um hey thanks max okay what were we talking about again your time at the unboxing right okay so there were a couple things wrong with that number one was that paul had already done an unboxing at the event and that's nothing against yeah because why not super cool but i think they saw the traction that that sort of got and then they came up with the idea of like oh we better reel this in and you know put an embargo on this because what they're trying to get because that effectively what they're getting when they do a launch event we all accept it because it gives us access to talk to the developers of the product right in a way that we don't get to on just a lot more helpful than a conference call yeah so so we we all accept these events that they do because it's also an opportunity to network within the industry most of the time i've spent with you guys it has has been events industry events but what's really frustrating is that NVIDIA controls the narrative at that point because any news story and we have to do a news story because everybody else is going to do a new story so that's my upload that day that's jay's upload that day that's dimitri's upload that day that's other content that might be more meaningful because it's not just regurgitating the same information everybody has that isn't going up because we're busy traveling for a day yeah spending it at an event and then traveling back for another day we just spent one percent of our year on this event to make the same piece of content that everybody else is making for me personally and they're okay they're nice yeah there can be some value to that because people might have different opinions or insights or ideas about how something might be used blah blah blah but it's a lot it's a lot to put on one item and when you have to do just an unboxing it's a it's pretty unlikely that you'll have a lot of unique insights well not even that this is kind of off topic a little bit but then it goes as far as starting to break down the information like you can get this piece of information we get this piece later this piece tomorrow right the pricing issue that happened with 1080 ti which is a huge issue yeah so what this looks like to me because NVIDIA is effectively getting marketing out of bringing people to this event they're just regurgitating whatever was on NVIDIA slides because that's all the information we have so far we don't have any benchmarks like how fast is the the uber card 10 000 or whatever so then there's that date let's say let's say march 1st for the sake of argument then march 14th would be the review embargo typically or yeah like they ever give us two weeks yeah yeah maybe like march 8th would be the review embargo that gives us a week to get back home test it formulate our opinions and go okay that thing we talked about a week ago here's the real skinny now they're putting this additional day a few days later where they're going okay now you can publish your unboxing here's the problem with that the unboxing contains no information that's new yeah and especially when it's not even retail packaging yeah it's just a physical showcase it's just a glamour video yeah i think they should be paying for that because effectively what they're getting is marketing so when NVIDIA sent us an embargo for an unboxing of the 1080 ti i basically sent them back an angry email went this is bs you guys are asking for free advertising no no NVIDIA no hard no right yeah yeah yeah so AMD went and pulled the same thing with threadripper on the CPU side and then on the GPU side honestly this feels even worse in some way because instead of instead of asking for free marketing what they've done is they've manipulated the conclusions of what is supposed to be an independent evaluation yeah i mean like you said it's so close to the launch date that's i mean our reviews are still not even cooled off yet and now that whole the whole budget factor of it is just wrong and like i'm sure one maybe two guys will make a video about that right yeah but there's only enough space for that because honestly most people in the audience won't really care they won't care in terms of like oh i'm going to watch all of these videos because i'm that interested you know what i mean nope so then it's the the roi on making one of those isn't really there for the creators so then they're probably not going to make it yep and is the rebate information available to to the reviewers until a certain point i didn't know anything about no rebate yeah i i didn't know anything about it and i didn't know that it was going to be expiring after a week yeah if they had been upfront about that then this is a totally different conversation and that's and that's not even that it doesn't even mention the fact that they only launched with bendel's to begin with anyway yeah really hard to find a card by itself the bundles were the only thing you could find all the retailers were doing bundles yep and i mean like if we want to keep going on about grievances with the rx vega launch um you know when did you get your vega 56 um friday before the lunch yeah so we got it friday morning before what was it a monday 6 a.m launch yeah so if anyone from AMD's watching i'ma break this down for you saturday and sunday are both considered weekends and it is fairly typical for people who have a life or a family or both i don't know if anyone has both or none can you have a life and a family okay whatever not the point the point the point is that those two days are weekend days which are generally considered the days that you spend having a life or having a family right so then we have to make the choice right so i have to tell my wife and my kids last minute like hey i've got to work all day saturday oh and by the way i'm going to be leaving for a whole week right after that you know so i lose a whole a whole saturday with them yep and literally that was we just added a whole sixth workday to the week just to handle that well you could just you could just wait and you could you could just publish so here's the thing we had vega 64 like a week before and we had the drivers and everything and we were told that vega 56 was going to be coming was going to be lifted way later like quite a bit later so we weren't so we were like we were like yeah everything's fine and then a card literally arrived here friday morning at 56 and i was like what are we supposed to do with a message asking to prioritize it did they for you yeah oh i don't i think we didn't get that until like even later in the day yeah i know the message was 56 is coming please please prioritize it if you can i got a new driver on the weekend yeah no no you're absolutely right and remember guys this is a 6 a.m pacific launch time so you have to be done the night before so you actually have to be rendering your video by like sunday evening because there might be errors there may be things you have to correct the render might not work there might be edits you have to make because of a problem taryn's very intimately familiar with this yeah so well it's kind of like right before the new CPU platform launches too right how many BIOS updates are there like up to the day of launch i would be it's really funny people are joking in the twitch chat about like youtuber union or something like that here is an interesting thought oh i'm directly what if every tech guy on youtube got together and said no screw your embargo we'll go when we're all ready i've kind of started doing that vegas the first actual embargo date i've hit in a long time thread didn't hit ryzen three five and seven i didn't hit Intel i didn't usually go for like two three days after everybody published two three weeks sometimes because i'm tired of the situation like Linus is talking about and what you're talking about with last minute drivers and stuff that i just wait for things to kind of settle and then i go into it start making a like review embargo alliance yeah review embargo alliance because like we had to pull in we had to pull in multiple people on a saturday yeah to come in basically because the video was completely done yeah by the time we had a vega 56 in our hand yeah yeah so teren's over there informing us that it was indeed him that edited it all too yeah so now he has like that didn't get to go anywhere i've just gotten so sick and tired of all the last minute changes and the way it actually changes the whole landscape uh that i've just decided like i'm no longer going to abide by the embargo dates trying to hit them if i'm late that's fine enough my audience is willing to wait and watch it anyway yeah but i'm tired of feeling like i'm just an extension of someone else's marketing team so tell me this um oh shoot i completely lost track of what i was going to say there bloody hell sorry it's been a long week it has something something embargo something embargo union yeah something something etc yeah forget it i got nothing so uh basically i'm frustrated it's stupid and uh i've had enough of this crap oh now i'm really frustrated it was like a it was like a great discussion thing i was really looking forward to talk about something very temporarily while you can try to think about that do you want to talk about what the the the premise or the rules were for the scrapyard wars yeah go ahead go ahead so for this scrapyard wars the idea was instead of starting at the office and working out of the office the entire time like we have in the past we had two teams should we see what the teams were yeah absolutely that's already public oh okay yeah so oh right that makes sense so it's myself and jay and Linus and dimitri and we started out actually in the city of vancouver which is about an hour from here and we had a fair amount of cash i can say how much but a fair amount of cash but some of that cash had to be allocated to food and water you had no budget for food you couldn't just buy food normally scrapbook was you could buy whatever food you wanted while you're going with your own money um but this time to be fair it didn't have to it's just if it's allocated from your budget yeah anything you spent anything you need anything you had to come out of that budget if you wanted to bike somewhere you'd have to buy or rent a bike if you wanted to transit somewhere further out you'd have to get a bus pass or a transit pass of some sort or get a cab or whatever so yeah it was it was a very interesting setup both teams decided to go at it in certain ways that i'm not going to describe because i'm worried about going too deeply into it uh but yeah it was very interesting and quite a bit different from any other scrapyard worse than being an empty cup i'm just laughing all the get jay water comments because i took a drink from an empty cup i was like oh i'm trying to make up for all the water that you know we needed yes yeah don't spoil it water doesn't spoil that's well what no this uh don't say you figured it out yeah i never figured out what it was but i had really like just wanted to talk a little bit more about um sort of how they're handling it and how it's uh we've had to do it before we've had to delay videos we've missed embargoes which are fairly important but we've found not the most important thing and sometimes it helps if there does happen to be a change yeah because then we can talk about the change and that one video will pick up traction but it's usually only us or only jay or only dimitri or only one type of creator that's making that one delayed video i do wonder what the what the the fallout would be not really fallout but what would the impact be if suddenly the entire tech scene on youtube just said no we're not gonna hit your embargo we all collectively say we'll wait two weeks to see where things land because we'd still be in that window of AMD pulling this or would they just postpone this i don't know i don't know how they'd react because i told them i think you guys should push it i think they might i think they might think initially especially something like NVIDIA right they might think that there's not gonna be any impact whatsoever but that's that'd be an interesting metric to see how it actually plays out i don't think NVIDIA gives two craps what any of us think i think you're right to be perfectly honest um it's really funny because like i think you take this somewhat too but we we take flack all the time for being in NVIDIA's pocket or whatever somewhat i think somewhat yeah yeah no we do when show is brought to you by NVIDIA so yeah according to the audience anyway so like it's it's one of those things where like you know i've butted heads with them a fair number of times recently more often than i like go to a nice dinner and you know talk shop it's been it's been it's been pretty tough lately actually all right so let's have a look at uh we didn't get titan xp needed today until like now yeah we have one now yeah cause they were like oh what you guys don't have one i was like no i asked for one for terry crews and they said no seriously what they turned me down until i made that video talk like talking crap about titan xp which would have gone out regardless because i think it's a really stupid card based on like the way they're locking down the cuda cores and yeah they're unlocking it multiple times in the same generation uh but it was after that they're like two of them just showed up right right so they they hand delivered them yeah i was like they're not even for me i don't even care right they're not for me and like this is this is a stupid thing on both the vendor side and the audience side do you guys honestly think that jay can be bought with a graphics card that doesn't pay my lease doesn't pay for my employees my insurance do you need more graphics cards jay it's pretty obvious i don't sell them i mean you can see the shop you know no i they they do not run my business in fact i started buying more stuff than ever now i've noticed that you were talking about buying lots of stuff for yourself just it's just easier and it's getting right away you don't have to yeah yep and now with your scrap yard work experience you can buy more stuff too with someone else's money which is great speaking of someone else's money the show today is brought to you by cablemod yeah i've got some stuff over there yeah okay so cablemod now has sleeving for aios have you guys seen this have you heard about this yeah oh okay i did a great review that was very well received oh okay i didn't watch it i know you didn't watch it either um so basically you buy your aio and then with no actual modification required you guys can go watch jay's video because we didn't review them um but there you go you just kind of unfold it and then you don't have to like take off the tubing or anything like that you just wrap it around and you end up with that nice sleeved look on your aio cooler tubes and matches your cabling assuming you went and bought cable mod cabling and that's pretty much it they've got little finishing pieces for the end so they look nice and tidy and uh what else can i really say about it i mean it's a pretty simple idea it just took someone to do it the colors do specifically match their cable sleeving so they're perfectly mesh for that so they've got lots and lots of different colors you guys can go check them out they've also just launched their sleeving kits on amazon so we've got a link in the video description for that but basically it's uh hold on a second and can i even figure out how to do this on a mac holy crap you can't you can't right click it's two finger click copy you have to like to finger tap it two finger tap ah it took me a while so i'm not signed in so forget it uh the link will be below the video i'll get it all right what else we got here oh yes today's show challenge also brought to you by g fuel that's right the same g fuel that we were check it out that right there is concentrated blue energy g fuel powers the editing of many of our videos and the writing of most episodes of fast as possible around here we actually consume as an office amount of g fuel yeah so uh basically how it works is you choose your fuel select your drink mix from up from over excuse me from 18 flavors they ship it directly to you you just add water so you mix one serving into a glass or shaker cup filled with 16 ounces of water and enjoy it comes in tubs just like that boxes containing packs or just the little packs 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yeah all right i'm gonna drop a bomb on you guys uh this was originally posted by numlock21 on the forum the original article here is from videocards.com so take it with a grain of salt uh Intel claims the core i7 8700k will be 11 faster than the 7700k and here's what i want to know because this is crazy well it is to be fair this is a whole entire one percent higher than i would have guessed this is what i want to know who needed Intel to claim this to know that this was coming yeah i mean this is literally this does this mean about does this mean that they're not scared okay so here's the thing so there's two things first of all the rumors are also that coffee lake is going to be available in six core configurations which would legit be good okay so if they're so they're keeping their 10 and adding course if they're 10 faster in terms of ipc and they're adding 50 more cores then i'm looking at this going that's a good job thank you for what should have happened two years ago but okay yeah fine thank you i mean i'll i still appreciate them doing something good even if it was a long time coming and should have happened before so the 8700 kids is going to be the six core excuse me it's supposed to be six core 12 thread with a single threaded boost over the 7700k of about 11 percent yet there'll still be an i5 and x299 at that time uh yeah cause x299 is not gonna refresh by then so yeah i mean this is this is yet another reason i mean you know okay you know my feelings i know your feelings on the 7740 and the 7640. those two skus make no sense at all and when coffee lake launches those skus remember the whole point of the high-end desktop platform is supposed to be mucho memory bandwidth mucho pci e-lanes and mucho processing cores and moho jerky those chips have none of those things they have beefed up power delivery so theoretically you can overclock them a little higher they're still dual core they still have the mainstream platform number of PCIe lanes and they're still quad core processors and they're pulling significantly more power than their mainstream counterparts and now compared to the mainstream platform that's coming oh i don't know what it's rumored to be launching what in it so it would be three months later if the rumors are true it will be two generations behind architecturally two and that might only be ten percent per generation or you know eight percent or whatever but still two generations times ten percent is not complicated math that's twenty percent so if you had a five gigahertz processor let's say you're an overclocker it's actually better than that because ten percent on top of ten percent that's right so let's say you're you're an overclocker uh you get to five gigahertz we're talking about now on this high-end platform you would be equivalent to the mainstream's performance at what like four gigahertz right well that's not good yeah why did i just go spend 350 on a motherboard Intel because they're hoping you're gonna just step forward or future compatibility with more expensive bigger but why would you still spend you know almost 400 on that CPU for getting the i7 that's the thing it's like i get that argument if it's like a pentium dual core or something and that's devil's advocate argument as far as i'm concerned right like like i've seen that before like pentium anniversary edition where we're talking a hundred dollar chip right you buy something to to get running today you hope it doesn't drop in value too much you flip because a hundred dollar CPU if it drops in value twenty percent we're talking twenty bucks yeah right and if you if you've managed to save up your 400 or 500 or whatever you need for an eight-core processor by that point then surely the 20 is not that big of a deal some time has passed i get that logic but here we're talking about a 300 plus dollar processor that you're buying as a placeholder doesn't make sense do you guys buy a 300 processor as a placeholder in the socket i i don't really buy processors as placeholders right and we never recommend that no do do you guys ever recommend that buy heart buy hardware that isn't what you actually need and then like like buy something else later yeah i know i would unless you're like crazy like craigslist or use site junkie because like you've done this kind of stuff but you're constantly flipping things so you were never planning on holding it for more than like possibly even two weeks but even then it doesn't matter you're not buying new anyway no yeah exactly so yeah so it's not even applicable so like i could see buying a 7740 from some idiot who bought it realized that this was really stupid and then it's like oh crap this thing isn't worth much i guess i'll just take a bath on it i could buy from that guy yeah and then then i do buy myself a few months to save up and i can probably flip it for pretty close to what i paid but i wouldn't buy something like that new no that's why i threw mine in an htpc just because i was like what else am i going to do with this oh i'll take the chip that doesn't make sense and put it in a form factor does it make sense for an x299 platform to begin with so that my whole video was based on that i just figured we'd put nonsense on top of nonsense and then i called it my vr rig on top of that there you go oh vr capable vr cable sticker put it on we got to get as reviewers we need to get our own vr capable stickers and just start putting them on every single it's a watermark on the video channel oh perfectly already this video is vr ready yes but it's really not well you could technically if you put it in theater mode oh true yeah watch it in vr theater yes figured out vr ready this is vr ready life is vr ready oh right yeah because you could buy an oculus or anything else in life which means that it's vr ready i was going with sony vr or whatever it is oh yeah also that what yeah okay uh so the original article here is from ours technica i've been completely out of the loop this week so this isn't that crazy i can kind of explain why uh so apple is investing a huge amount uh it says they're going all in but apple has a lot of money yeah billion dollars is not all in so not at all um but they're they're putting a billion dollar budget to apple shows uh so they're doing like the first original series from them was planet of the apps and carpool karaoke and they're doing more but this isn't that surprising netflix is going really hardcore into original content they're going to be putting these shows on the apple music thing so they probably need to rename that but oh well um a lot of these big companies that are trying to serve video are going into original content because licensing especially from like big movies and big shows if you want to have all of them is obscenely prohibitively expensive and this is something you and i have discussed um apparently there isn't a video streaming platform online like a significant one i mean that's losing money yeah and you know now that we are really digging and sometimes there sometimes they're parts of bigger companies and then they don't care that they're not losing money or it's offset by some other aspect of the business exactly yeah but the actual video streaming division whether we're talking youtube um amazon prime video netflix twitch as far as we can tell they're all losing money and like hearing from certain people that work at some of those companies not all of them but some of those companies we know people that i think we know at least someone at pretty much all of them yeah which makes moves like disney pulling all of their movies off of netflix to have their own streaming service just really make you scratch your head i mean i know disney has disney money to spend but still no company wants to bleed money but they all they already have a website and they've already been streaming their own video to be fair so they just have to scale up yeah but you you could get their stuff in other places now now their video is gonna be available only on one source so they're gonna have to probably upscale anyway and that way they can control the pricing too they can they can just they can control the content that goes around it disney cares about that a lot yeah they do and also users already getting familiar with needing to get their hands into so many other platforms yeah and you know how we were talking about there's gonna be sites that pop up that bring everything together they already exist right oh all right well there's already a thing yeah so you just kind of like log in with all your logins there and then it just becomes a single house becomes one viewing site yeah so like i got tons of tweets about that last time yeah i think they're actually you know what i feel really stupid now because i know samsung had a thing built into their smart tvs like a while back that mixes it all together for years that actually it's just a browser of the other browsers yeah it just goes and finds and it can even browse uh rental services like google play oh that's neat you know what's really funny is on the subject of apple uh doing their own original programming and like they should probably change the name of like itunes now i i gave google so much crap about google play store back when they did it now it totally makes sense yeah yeah play music play games play videos oh they actually got that one right yep way to go google i just did it way ahead of time when in the moment it didn't make a ton of sense it just made a lot more sense in the future they were playing they were playing 3d chess they were doing the long game and i was playing with you wow that was that was what was going on there i didn't get it i mean that you were you were making children at that point in time no not yet okay yeah no not yet no uh that was a solo effort oh that's why it was just playing solo effort i see yes okay yeah yeah yeah still a fun game i'm surprised that with the one billion here i put up the green screen picture from earlier and someone did that oh no i love how you said that oh no show him the other one these guys they can't check out at jay's two cents uh actually here i can i can pull it up yeah it's pretty it's pretty so we we dimitri knight earlier if you guys follow our social media we stood in front of their green screen and uh it was you know to give you guys an opportunity to key out and play around with green screen pictures there's some good awesome there's some really good creative people out there my goodness just go to media oh there it is yeah also make sure to to tag some of them might not be appropriate so you might not want to scroll live okay there it is well there's there's the one we were looking for that's your thinking up there jay would your wife approve who is that who is that foxy uh foxy foxy babe oh what is going on here dang it apple what's up that's the sun okay oh man that's great oh my god that's that is great all right see you we know have fun we can have fun somehow work all right so here's some potentially big news so pcgamer.com reports and i'm just gonna close this ad before i screen share with you guys NVIDIA's next-gen volta gaming gpus not arriving anytime soon well why would they so this picture right here is jensen showing off volta already super duper definitely working in the data center which means based on the way that NVIDIA rolls out product they launched their big GPU first and whatever product that is it used to be GeForce now it never is but i'm not bitter and video launches their big one first which means they've got the architecture down and then they just they just cut they cut and cut and cut and the performance goes down according to how much they cut away that process usually takes like two to three months per per cut because there is an art it's obviously more complicated than just like taking a pair of scissors to a you know uh to a v100 and like taping that to a pcb like um so there's r d that is involved with that and you've only got so many engineers at a time it's a resource management thing so based on when they showed off working like production volta silicon it's been a while they could probably be launching a GeForce card now if they felt like there's no reason to there's no mark there's there's no competition for them to do it and they push back uh their hbm already generations from when the original roadmap back in like 2012 was leaked yeah it was maxwell i believe was when we were supposed to first see facebook hpm that was super duper but they they now look at vega and they're just like why even invest in the manufacturing cost of this when we don't have to when our when our traditional architecture is still topping the competition and the other thing too is like NVIDIA strategically you've seen it over the last five years has moved from try to make the GPU faster faster faster to try to build out technology around the GPU whether it's stuff that doesn't make a ton of sense to me personally like ansel is that that screenshotting thing where you can capture like super high resolution still do you guys know anyone that uses that have you used it i've used it only in the demo version just to see how high resolution you can go if you go like crank up the settings but outside of seeing how beautiful you can turn those screenshots for like which are three in the other games i've never done if you want like a big poster in your on your own i have never used it ever like i'll tell you guys this i remember this was a weird experience for me at a lan party this was back when like i went to lan party so clearly i like played video games but i wasn't really like i didn't have like a guild or like a clan or anything like that so being like really into video games was kind of alien to me and there were these two people at a land and it's only like a 45-50 person land um which like it's big but it's not that big they spent like two hours literally it felt like you know uncle harold's like vacation pictures one of them was showing the other one an album of wow screenshots yeah like this was the time we climbed to the top of frickin some mountain and whoever clicked through the thing and like whoever clipped through the thing so it was hyjal what i don't know what you're talking about so see no this this this this might have been pretty cool okay one thing wild screenshots was like a big deal because you'd show boss kills and you'd usually have like the time stamp so if you were like world first or server first or whatever you could show the boss kill um it could be and if he's talking about mike don't hide the kill and this is when you were at lan parties so this was probably classic wow correct yeah in classic wow you were not allowed to get to mount hyjal so he probably has a similar screenshot set to me which is glitching through many walls and over many things and it takes like quite a while to get there and you're just like screwing the game repeatedly and you get to a part of the game that has like blizzard co construction signs and there's stuff that never got released that's in there like archimonde's like big giant skull leaning up against this tree and stuff which was never in the game so it was actually super cool and it was glitchers it wasn't necessarily just people that are interested in wow because i was a glitcher back then i broke like every single aspect of halo 2. um a friend of mine utah crusher i haven't talked to you in many years but this guy named utah crusher and i used to play halo 2 together and we were like in the first group of people that found the switching from rocket to a sword and flying across the entire map glitch if you knew that one i killed hogger you would do this thing where the rocket the the rocket you could aim at someone and it would show it would show red because you were targeting them right do you remember that i never played halo 2 that's an xbox game okay whatever man if you if i think it happened in halo 1 too if you aimed over top of someone the aimer would turn red anyways i don't remember um that long time ago that was like a state and the sword if the aimer was red you would lunge towards them and the state was shared so if you switched it fast enough and lunged it wouldn't notice that it wasn't in that state anymore so it would let you lunge to the person but they're super far away because it's the targeting from the rocket launcher so you just like and just fly it it was pretty cool we did a lot of other stuff too i'm gonna stop that so i'll say this many many of the screenshots were just like here's me and this other person in a meadow no it was really bad so okay anyway back to back to the topic um a lot some of the stuff in videos building doesn't make a ton of sense to me like ansel um but some of the stuff they're building does make a ton of sense um things like uh streaming uh better better GPU-based encoding and decoding okay all that kind of stuff does make sense to me um so pretty much what they're doing is they're kind of going we don't even we don't even need to develop a much much faster GPU every year we're just going to like put more tech in it to the point where even if the rx vega 556 was the same price as a gtx 1070 NVIDIA's whole thing on their side is like we still think you should buy a 1070 anyway because we do release day drivers every time oh by the way they're wickle wall um and then we've got all this other tech we've got shadow play and and all that kind of stuff built into it and uh you know AMD's approach is oh yeah but like our approach is open and but you look at sometimes but the video started opening stuff up too though sometimes open makes sense but only if you're actually doing any work yeah cause like look at okay so stereoscopic 3d however much of an abortion you may or may not think it is NVIDIA did a better job because they actually did work on it whereas AMD was just like yeah through izad 3d and whatever that other thing was uh you can enable stereoscopic 3d on our cards but they were these janky third party did you ever try is 3d it's no i didn't it was awesome i never did NVIDIA's 3d stuff either it was awful like if you think 3d is bad imagine 3d but like there's no oxygen so just to say 3d ready or whatever yeah just just to just just to have the checkbox it was super bad yeah we did testing for that a long time people are telling me to shut up uh they think like three quarters of the chat is dimitri in the chat yeah so much of it you talked yeah i mean you gave them what they wanted okay here i've got something for dimitri to discuss uh this was posted by purina on the forum the original article here is from ars technica and this blew my mind bing is bigger than you think says microsoft with a quarter of uk searches whoa wow so saying a quarter of the searches are from uk no no a quarter of the uk's searches are using bing 10 in spain nineteen percent in france nine percent in uh what type of use though is it whatever that is what are they searching they're they're just looking to buy to download chrome that's probably legit man apparently taiwan is as high as 25 percent the u.s is 33. yeah the u.s is the biggest percentage 16 percent canada but these are just what these are views these are just figures being put out by marketing the lowest percentage because they may be just using type to search which uses bing as your as your search result i love how they're saying bing is bigger than you think and then there's literally multiple single-digit percentages yeah that is bigger than i think to be fair yeah but like damn guys i i honestly think like dimitri said that's just because they're searching for another browser to download 33 of all traffic in the usa is not searching for another browser to download like i'm not even just trying to be devil's advocate that's not there's no way so if they're using cortana yeah cortana uses bing so anytime you type that in click enter it uh so that's just a that's just a falsified not really falsified but it's it's skewed in that making it look like but i'm not going to being i don't use cortana to begin with but if i do a search or something down here i'm not searching bing i'm just searching here usually for something on my system but yeah but that doesn't work that way most of the time it just gives you driver download from from online but it searches for the internet as well simultaneously when you search for something local so that really a good representation of being usage yeah that and i accidentally use bing a lot accidentally yeah so you contribute to that how many thirteen percent sixteen percent canada so i'll like i'll launch edge because i haven't bothered to install another browser yet and i'll search for something i'll be like oh crap and then i'll have to sir someone in chat just said alexa uses bing and alexa's huge in the states oh okay that would maybe make sense why it's 33 there because apparently globally it's about nine percent ouch and then 33 percent in the usa that's huge even like hong kong that can't be right i'm pretty sure that's not right bing is for porn apparently what yeah so a certain a certain friend of ours in seattle would say that like i guess the algorithm for that is way better oh a certain friend of ours in seattle yeah well i'm not getting involved in that thanks for tuning in to you guys um thanks again to jay and dimitri not only for being here for scrapyard wars but also for being here on the show so you can find jay over at uh i mean i know the answer is two cents with a z not to be confused with the rapper yeah and uh us at hardware conducts yeah i'm just i'm leaving it because it's funny oh i'll do it there we go oh we should have done a special intro with like you guys like on planes coming here that would have been real i cool share some footage they're like biplanes little scarves and goggles do you do like a box yeah are you putting that on your channel yeah if you want to see a travel vlog go to dimitri's channel hardware connections it's not my personal jam oh no no i'm collecting stuff still oh yeah that'll be good though it'll be good"}