{"video_id":"evXpqpNhu_Y","title":"Intel Core i7 4790K & Pentium G3258 \"Anniversary Edition\"","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2015-05-07T14:53:29Z","duration_s":513,"segments":[{"start_s":0.28,"end_s":8.519,"text":"we have actually got two new CPUs from Intel today both of which I would","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.52,"end_s":16.0,"text":"classify as enthusiasts delight at the Forefront is the cor i74790k code named","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":11.559,"end_s":18.0,"text":"T's Canyon their new 4 GHz base 4.4 GHz","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":16.0,"end_s":22.4,"text":"boost quad core hyperthreaded unlocked and overclockable mainstream Flagship","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.76,"end_s":27.439,"text":"and then quietly in the background is the Pentium g3258 with a modest 3.2 GHz","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":25.48,"end_s":31.96,"text":"clock speed and two processing cores with no 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the background is the Pentium g3258 with a modest 3.2 GHz clock speed and two processing cores with no hyperthreading and no turbo boost so with that all in mind the star of the show today might surprise you a bit for the ultimate no compromises compact gaming PC look no further than the obsidian series 250d from Corsair click now to learn more let's start with an explanation of Intel's Devil's Canyon code name and what that actually means the Silicon is actually not physically different than previous Haswell CPUs so put aside your expectations of tangible performance gains at the same clock speeds um this is an evolutionary step not a revolutionary one so what does that even mean well on the surface not too much the core i74790k features a 100 MHz clock speed improvement over the 4770k with the same features enabled at the same price so it's sure better than a kick in the pants but if that's all that we were getting the whole Devil's Canyon branding might have seemed a little bit out of place the two main real improvements are actually more behind the scenes and some of the most Enthusiast friendly things Intel's done in quite some time it looks like they're really listening to us first up they have fixed the thermal interface material between the core and the metal heat spreader on the top of the CPU that was causing Haswell chips to run extremely hot especially when overvolting and overclocking for more performance number two is that due to small incremental improvements in the manufacturing process yields on these dieses have allowed Intel to provide much more consistently highly overclockable 4790 K compared to the previous generation Haswell chips so more consistency in the overclocking again a big thumbs up put together these two things aren't going to be enough to make every current Haswell owner toss their chip and rush to the store for an upgrade but they will mean a more consistent overclocking experience and a cooler running CPU for anyone who does take the plunge I'll be handing off to Luke to give you guys some of what we could squeeze out of our sample and how it compares to running at stock speed but first I'd like to introduce the real star of the show today I MHO the Pentium g3258 might not have sounded exceptional when I introduced it but I left off one very important thing it's unlocked that means that for the first time in years Intel is giving Gamers and enthusiasts the gift of an overclockable chip that's priced so low that you can get it and an overclocking ready Z87 or z9 7 motherboard for less than the price of their previously entry-level unlocked CPU at the core i5 tier so just as a recap it's got only two cores less cash no hyperthreading and no support for turboing up to faster speeds under ideal conditions on its own but who cares we got this bad boy to 4.7 GHz on our test bench so stay tuned for some gaming Benchmark suckas oh and spoiler alert it's going to be surprisingly close to the quad core all the bells and whistles models in gaming over to you Luke I'm going to start with a quick disclaimer for both of these processors lonus gave me exactly zero minutes to fine-tune the voltage I was able to get the fastest clock speed I could get on these chips but I was not able to lower the voltage to an acceptable level so the voltage is going to be a little bit high and you could definitely get away with a little bit lower voltage on both of these chips for both of these speeds but this is as fast as I was able to get either of them the 4790k was pretty nice to overclock and deals with temperatures quite well well even at 1.3 volts running at full load under ID to 64 it only got to about 70 75° the penum K though was super freaking surprising I was told this was supposed to be a great processor but getting it on the bench and messing it with with it yourself is kind of fantastic Under full load id64 1.35 volts this thing only gets about 60 65° that's crazy you can get that lower obviously by getting a better voltage threshold but it you almost don't even need to the potential of this processor is fantastic so let's check out that performance in terms of gaming performance the 4790k did about as expected it's a little bit faster and everything but not a ton faster don't worry about the star Sion result I think that's probably more based on Star Sion not being very well optimized yet as it's pre-alpha um and less to do with the processor the Pentium K though holy crap if you're getting this processor please overclock it you get so much benefit from overclocking this thing it's awesome it's very noticeable in certain games and one thing to note is one of the biggest improvements that in that is increasing this average result which we're reporting is an increase in minimum frame rates which is going to be the most noticeable so this is great to overclock this processor especially with you're only overclocking two cores and they're the two most important cores so please overclock this processor before we jump into cine bench performance I want to give a shout out to the cinebench thread in the CPU section of the lineus tech tips Forum started by jumper 118 that thread's kind of awesome and we will be showing performance probably directly based to the results in that thread so you guys can compare the results in that thread to these processors directly the Pentium K didn't do that great but that's kind of expected this thing isn't designed for heavily threaded workloads and cinebench is so I wouldn't worry about that too much the 4790k did very well on the other hand to reiterate on our voltage we're currently running an h100 and you don't need to spend $100 on your CPU Cooler Tom's Hardware has a report of 4.6 GHz on on air with much less voltage than we're currently running and I might have been able to get my voltage down but who knows I just wouldn't worry about spending more than your processor on a cooler you can get very good results with this CPU with not a ton of heat if you want more guidance on how to overclock these CPUs and hopefully how to tune that voltage in a little bit more Linus we'll have a full overclocking guide coming in the near future from Linus and speaking of lonus back to you hey I'm back so one more tip guys is that as appealing as those numbers looked and as appealing as the price for this chip will look if you check the link to the product in the video description remember when you're shopping to factor in platform cost overclocking friendly competing boards from the Green Team are cheaper than zseries boards so watch out for that but then again there are rumors about some H series boards being hacks sored to overclock the g3258 which would bring pricing much closer so keep your ear to the ground in the coming months and make sure you're paying attention when it's actually time to pull the trigger now speaking of your ears to the ground or something our latest new sponsor is Ting and their whole Spiel is actually pretty straightforward there are a wireless carrier in the US that says straight up we're running on the Sprint network so you won't be using some janky small one they bill per use rather than requiring you to play like guessing games about how many texts you're going to send in a given month and then pick out a prepackaged plan and when you call their customer service you talk to a real person not an automated menu finally they claim that 90 8% of people will save money by switching to Ting but you don't have to take their word for it check out the link in the video description to try out their savings calculator the way it works is you enter the numbers from your last three bills on your current carrier and it shows you how much you would have paid if you were on Ting neat hey on top of that if you go to ling.com which is that link in the video description you can get 25 bucks off a new device or $25 in service credit cool eh anyway guys like this video if you liked it dislike it if you disliked it leave a comment tell me what do you think who who who was the star of the show Devil's Canyon or the Pentium g3258 I think you guys all know which one Luke and I most excited about but hey there you go everybody loves a bargain right don't forget to subscribe if you haven't already and that's it peace out I got to go do W show in like 19 minutes you guys wonder why that show is late sometimes he"}