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now we know it's been done already but come on in fairness we thought about doing this a long time

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ago it just takes a while for stuff to ship from wish.com you guys loved our amazon

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and monoprice pc build so much

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that we couldn't resist the urge to do it again

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but with a sketchier twist so uh strap on guys

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because i can pretty much guarantee

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that this is not gonna go according to plan

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all right step one put on my ltt hoodie

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lttstore.com step two

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let's start unpacking this stuff so first up is our case you can tell that

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is super high quality because even with my weak sauce left arm i am easily

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manhandling it here let's go ahead and do a nice little peel for you guys

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ah yes

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oh oh that was not a good deal

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you know what the case though actually feels better quality than the plastic

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cup oh crap i bent it

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uh so i was holding it by the i o cutout

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actually warped it a little bit i think i'll pick it up the way you're intended

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to from now on features wise though this actually doesn't look that bad we've got

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three front usbs including a usb 3 power

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reset uh front ports we've got wow an

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easily removable magnetic fan filter with room for a couple of 120 millimeter

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fans up here it actually includes what appears to be a 120 millimeter rgb fan

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although it may just be that the label is red green and blue

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the side panel mounts in like this tempered glass style but this is in fact

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an acrylic side panel and then check this out it's got that punched out style

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back panel so you've actually got a little bit of room for cable management

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back here i mean not a ton but a little bit is better than nothing that is a

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weird fan like it's a 120 millimeter frame but

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those blades are tiny so this is what i'm talking about look

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how big the blades are on that 120 millimeter versus the other

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one it's like a 90 millimeter fan in a

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120 millimeter frame it's got this like thick

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frame on it it's weird now this is a cool feature you've actually got color

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coding on your switches and your leds here and it seems to correspond to the

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colors that at least some manufacturers use i'm pretty sure asus uses blue for

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reset how much should we pay for this thing

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what so apparently cases are not actually a great deal on wish.com

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at least it has a tempered glass front panel all right let's open up our next mystery

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package here ah a motherboard

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what is with all the bubble wrap around this thing

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i mean in fairness it still looks like it was

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got dropkicked so there's a couple

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takeaways here one all the extra packaging seems to be

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justified and two the way that they're applying their extra packaging is not

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very effective oh

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so that's interesting yeah this motherboard is not that at all um

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full testing okay all right

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so this is clearly a very used board was it clear from the listing that it was

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gonna be used okay how much did we pay for this bad boy

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46 for an h61 board that's not even a good

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deal why do people buy this stuff and like do you know how much these socket

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covers cost if you buy them in bulk i know pennies

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they put a piece of paper in look at this

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that's it that's their that's their socket cover now in fairness it doesn't

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look like there are any bent pins so that's good but that's still not how i would have

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preferred it done all right we also apparently have a cpu

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and it comes in what looks like a compact flash

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card case which i guess is kind of cute

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it's an intel core i3 2130

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i guess this was just what cpu they had that was compatible with what board they

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had kind of thing how much should we pay for this guy

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50 bucks seriously

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this is a rip-off so already for the price of this cpu and

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motherboard we probably could have gotten like an old dell business pc that

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would have included case power supply uh probably a drive some ram and we

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could have just like thrown a graphics card in it but what that

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so i was informed before we started that i actually have two options for coolers

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i have this great wall heatsink cooler

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i am kind of liking this this is actually very similar to the old

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xalman flower coolers that used to be popular back in the

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socket 754 days so that's candidate number one and

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candidate number two is actually an aio liquid cooler

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i mean it shouldn't surprise me given that they're all basically made in china

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anyway but this

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looks very very similar in materials and

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construction to what you'd get from an aio cooler that

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you purchased just normally off of amazon or whatever

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tubing wise like seems like the materials they're using are okay it feels like an aluminum radiator it's

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pretty light but that should be fine except that there's a copper block

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except that some manufacturers do that i don't know what they're doing i think

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they're crazy okay you know what if the aio fits

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then we're gonna go with that but uh it's no guarantee that we're

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gonna be able to get it in here because even though this does have mounts for

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dual 120 millimeter fans up here that doesn't mean that there's going to be

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enough clearance once we install a power supply and no in fact there isn't so it looks

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like we cannot use our aio cooler and we are unfortunately going to be stuck with

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our regular heatsink so how much were each of those

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so our theme continues of our prices not necessarily being

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outlandishly bad on these ones i'd say

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80 bucks for like a i don't know kind of decent looking aio is

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fine but it's certainly not special

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okay so it should just be a matter of throwing our clips on here

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and clip one and clip

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two give it a little

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wiggle and plug in did we also buy ram off wish oh

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there it is oh wow that is some uh

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hey they wait a second wait a second

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i am pretty sure that they don't have the rights to use this image

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so this is vaseki high performance ddr

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and you can tell that they're really high budget and care a lot about their

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packaging when they use the same packaging for everything from ddr3 1333

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to ddr4 3200 like ah

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it's some of this something like that let's go ahead and

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install this stuff so this is uh ddr3 1333 i'm super glad we spent money on

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this how much did we spend forty dollars

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on eight gigs you know what i think that's actually not entirely

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unreasonable the funny thing about memory is when like a new memory spec

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like ddr2 or ddr3 or whatever just comes out it's really expensive and

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then it gets cheap when the entire market adopts it then it gets expensive

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again when it becomes like old technology and it's more niche all right so there we go

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friends i'm going to plug our case fan into the bottom of the motherboard here

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wow that's really curious this case you

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know it actually looked okay at the start there

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but it is pretty unexceptional like

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check this out our bottom fan here which is pre-installed and it seems to me that

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the reason it's pre-installed is that almost none of the other fan mounts are

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even going to be accessible because of the tempered glass panel here and the

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power supply here actually interferes with what would be the bottom slot if we

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had a full four slot matx motherboard

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like this this thing this thing is not very well thought out at all

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now seems like a good opportunity to get back to our solid state drive uh

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it's another vasecchi product this is the v800 256g at least this one is

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clearly labeled but i do have to wonder if this is kind of an old box

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like didn't sand force get acquired like a thousand years ago by someone i'd be

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surprised if it even uses a sandforce controller wow oh just it just comes

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apart well maybe we can see what it uses

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this is nothing to do with sand force whatsoever it's a silicon magic

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controller but not the one that's listed online which is actually good because at

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least this one sata 3 unlike the sata 2 one that it says this product uses

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unfortunately this is in fact a dram cashless ssd there is no

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ram on it whatsoever and we did a video about that a while back explaining why

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that is a terrible terrible terrible idea and in some cases you might even

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get better performance out of a mechanical hard drive compared to a

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cashless ssd so

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there you go i mean it's nothing we didn't already know but we wouldn't recommend this

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let's install it in our computer how much did i pay for that

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56 i mean capacity for capacity that's not

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a terrible deal but for like a piece of crap ssd like this one that's not a good

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deal

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oh boy when your sli

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still uses a lowercase i because you haven't updated any of your

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materials since like 2010.

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oh boy now let's have a look at our connectors

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here so

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we've got two leads each of which are

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a molex and a sata wow this wiring

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it's so cheap even the plastic for the connectors

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feels cheap on a positive note i do think we have

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all the connectors we need four pin for the cpu

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24 pin for the motherboard six pin for oh right graphics card

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so

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this one we're pretty sure is a rip-off actually

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how much did speaking of rip-offs how much did i pay for this piece of garbage

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31 bucks that's overpriced

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not that you should ever use even like a good 31 power supply in

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like a decent machine power supply is one of those things it's

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just not worth it to cheap out on and wow look at this thing

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so if i had to guess i would say

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that this is a 460 ti or a 560. what is it

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a 1060 it doesn't even have a 6 pin power connector on it 1060 my ass

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wait nvidia's 10 series doesn't even have vga support

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oh you how much did i pay for this

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45 bucks well at least the price was right all right

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let's go ahead and install this piece of hot garbage

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now normally your power supply is supposed to be the one that comes with your mounting

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screws but either they fell out of the gaping hole

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in the bottom of the box or they just weren't included so what we're

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going to do is we're going to salvage

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a couple of what appear to be power supply compatible screws but that seem

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to have been intended for expansion cards so what's our total bill for the tower

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380 with the air cooler option

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that is brutal that is so much more than i would pay

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for this now our pc is done but what we still

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don't know is how true any of the

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manufacturers claims were about their products to find that out we're gonna

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have to actually install windows on it and fire it up but before we can do that

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of course we're going to need some peripherals

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let's start with the zulang wolf

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rainbow light k16 game keyboard

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wow

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this may be the lightest keyboard that i

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have ever felt then also from the same brand i think although this time it's in

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chinese instead of english but it's the same logo here

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we've got some kind of gaming mouse i guess

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that is quite literally the spongiest click that i have ever felt on anything

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you can even see a lot of that travel is being absorbed by the pcb underneath see

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how much that port is moving that is grody

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okay this i've actually seen this mouse pad is a pretty good deal all right how

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much did the peripherals cost us

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and that includes the mouse pad well at least the price is right for the

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peripherals because these are definitely like 10 dollar worthy

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peripherals over here all right so this is it ladies and gentlemen

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our epic gaming setup

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is now ready for a windows install and a gaming test

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we'll be right back all right so we're getting some games downloading we're gonna get some drivers

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installed but before we do that i've got an update for you this power

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supply was even worse than we expected

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not only did it suck it didn't work at all so we had to pull in just a tx 750

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in order to get the system powered up at all the good news is that once we did that we were at least able to get

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windows installed yeah it's clear by this point that this is not a build that

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you guys would want to emulate but get subscribed if you're not already because

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we're going to have a rise and build guide coming up pretty soon that's going to be more uh

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by the book now let's take some time to explore what

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kind of hardware we've really ended up with here so we'll fire up hardware info

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fire up our device manager and uh see what we're looking at one thing i

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figured out already is this computer is not very fast

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all right so we're going to start with device manager here you can see all of our drivers auto installed for like our

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chipset and all that kind of stuff it's older hardware so windows just knows

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what to do with that so it turns out this is in fact a core i3 2130 so that's

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good i guess okay all right gigabit ethernet blah blah everything here looks

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fine but we don't have a gpu driver yet so that's not showing up so it says here

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we've got a gtx 1050 ti and we've actually got the nvidia drivers

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unpacking in the background here but we fire up hardware info and this is

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hilarious sandy bridge processor fake nvidia gtx

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1050 ti fake it's not it's not one fake is not enough for this two fakes

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so this is a gf-116 which if i recall correctly

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is fermi that is an old old gpu unfortunately

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because it's not reporting anything here we have no way of knowing at this time

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which one it is so the only way to find out is going to be to try and get some

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real drivers installed so that it can hopefully identify itself correctly

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so let's try the nvidia installer here and see what happens oh wow it successfully

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installed the driver it still reports as a 1050 ti

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interesting so i thought we were actually going to have to install off the included driver

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disk with like these hacky drivers on it

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see that looks really legitimate but it seems like the driver did manage to

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install and they have even tricked nvidia control panel

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into thinking that this is a 1050 ti now with that said we haven't tried to

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launch a game yet all right so we've run into our first hiccup while attempting to

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press alt z to see just a quick and dirty frame counter in the game

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um i got into geforce experience here and

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went to configure my settings and

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theoretically we meet the system requirements because we have a 600

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series or higher but in practice the the configuration

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button just doesn't work and when you go to press alt z nothing

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comes up because no this is not in fact a 600

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series gpu so we're just going to have to eyeball

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it

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yay oh no

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so the good news is this is running smoothly the bad news is that this is

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rocket league it's not exactly known for being a particularly demanding title

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and i'm dead we found our problem

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fermi only had hdmi 1.3

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so that was limited to 2048 by 1536 at

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75 hertz that's a little bit not quite

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enough for 2560 by 1440 60 hertz which

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is the native resolution of this monitor so when we try to run it

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uh confusion ensues

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so i think the last thing for us to do is figure out exactly what graphics card

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we're dealing with here so we're going to go ahead and run 3dmark we're going to use the directx 11 fire strike and

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we're going to have a look at what kinds of systems perform similarly to ours in

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gpu performance and it crashed

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what can you tell me about this error the workload produced no results

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so this could be either of a couple things it could be that 3dmark was

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expecting the gpu to support features that it in fact didn't

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and some kind of error occurred or it could be part of 3dmark's anti-cheating

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procedures to double check if something is misreporting itself as something else

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so that people couldn't you know flash rtx 2080 tis to

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gtx 1050 ti's and then you know completely dominate the leaderboards um

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either way it looks like we will not in fact be able to run 3dmark to validate

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what our graphics card is which at this point in the video i think is fine

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anyway because it really doesn't change the conclusion anytime you're buying

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something and what you get is not what it said it was that's a bad

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deal and frankly speaking even most of

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weren't amazing deals either so the old adage definitely holds true here if

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something seems too good to be true

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it probably is i think the cooler is

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about the only thing in this computer that i think

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is even remotely worth getting it's got

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i think that's where i hit it so whatever happened here

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someone was not happy about delivering this package