WEBVTT 00:00:00.060 --> 00:00:07.620 I wouldn't oh crap we blew the breaker you know why this computer costs twenty 00:00:05.700 --> 00:00:11.340 thousand dollars because it was from the bulk aisle and they charge by the pound 00:00:09.840 --> 00:00:16.080 there just kidding it all comes down to 00:00:13.740 --> 00:00:23.699 Performance this video is sponsored by vrla Tech and they're having us take a 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:25.800 look at a top tier specimen ah from 00:00:23.699 --> 00:00:32.040 their threadripper Pro workstation lineup oh my gosh this thing is heavy 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:35.700 oh and on my laptop you've seen the fractal defying 7xl 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:39.360 before I think last time around we put about 20 hard drives in it but if you 00:00:37.800 --> 00:00:43.800 don't fill it up with hard drives it can fit all kinds of other cool things 00:00:41.100 --> 00:00:47.219 optional solid top panel will not be needing that with the kind of Hardware 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:51.120 we've got stuffed in here extra hard drive sleds 00:00:49.800 --> 00:00:54.960 let's take a look at the accessories vrla Tech includes 00:00:53.340 --> 00:00:59.579 okay screws this is just all the accessories that would have been included in the Box for the Enthusiast 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:06.720 grade parts that they're using but instead they Consolidated this is the 00:01:02.219 --> 00:01:08.100 lot of PCI slot covers a second bag has 00:01:06.720 --> 00:01:13.500 all the power cables that we're going to need for our power supply and the event that we want to plug it into the wall or 00:01:11.880 --> 00:01:17.100 wish to upgrade the machine in the future not that there's anything to 00:01:15.180 --> 00:01:22.860 upgrade it to today since it's already the absolute freaking top of the line 00:01:20.820 --> 00:01:28.140 oh until the wheels fall off your trailer man the defined 7xl feels like 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:32.820 kind of a relic of a bygone era you know who wants a mini ITX small form tractor 00:01:31.080 --> 00:01:38.520 machine the bigger the computer the better in this case that does actually 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:41.220 appear to be true oh 00:01:38.520 --> 00:01:46.079 the bottom of the case is one gigantic removable mesh air filter so that's 00:01:44.100 --> 00:01:51.360 where a ton of our air intake is Gonna Come From but just that not going to be 00:01:48.960 --> 00:01:56.700 enough for the there goes my back panel I appear to have experienced 00:01:53.700 --> 00:01:58.560 some shipping damage oh yeah there's no 00:01:56.700 --> 00:02:02.220 windowed side panel or anything hey this is all professional all the times I'm 00:02:00.960 --> 00:02:06.360 not getting derailed though I want to still talk about the outside where at 00:02:04.020 --> 00:02:13.560 the front we're going to find oh I like this four I've Noctua's nfa12 fans 00:02:10.380 --> 00:02:15.660 that's gonna be some hair flow oh and on 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:20.760 the top we got another four of them that's over 200 US dollars and fans 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:25.680 alone wow it's full of bubbles this is 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:30.599 actually more necessary than you'd probably think remember that thing that just happened where this thing probably 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:34.440 got kicked around by The Courier and one of the little plastic Clips managed to 00:02:31.980 --> 00:02:39.540 break off this prevents anything like that from happening inside so that you 00:02:37.200 --> 00:02:43.920 can at least still run the machine while you wait for vrla Tech to get you sorted 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:49.319 out with a replacement little plastic clip what it means though is that it is 00:02:46.379 --> 00:02:53.400 Trey's important that you pull all of this stuff out before you actually try 00:02:51.239 --> 00:02:57.720 to run the system it looks like this particular piece needs to be removed 00:02:55.379 --> 00:03:01.800 from the back definitely be careful pulling this boy out because if it gets 00:02:59.760 --> 00:03:06.540 caught on a cable like a SATA cable or something like that it could conceivably 00:03:03.959 --> 00:03:12.060 rip it off but it looks like ours came out without anything eventful happening 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:14.099 I do think this system got an extremely 00:03:12.060 --> 00:03:18.239 rough ride though you can actually see this cable right here is coming out at a 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:22.500 bit of a strange angle from that hard drive it's not broken or anything it 00:03:20.220 --> 00:03:25.800 just a little bit that seems to be the worst of it though everything is 00:03:23.940 --> 00:03:30.000 strapped down nice and tight held in place so it can't really come loose from 00:03:27.959 --> 00:03:32.640 its connector and shipping and it's nice to see that even though there's no 00:03:31.200 --> 00:03:36.180 window on the case they're still taking the time to Cable manage it properly and 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:40.019 that's one of the reasons that that's so important especially for a pre-built 00:03:38.340 --> 00:03:43.560 system that's going to be shipped you know halfway across the continent 00:03:41.459 --> 00:03:48.599 Brandon helpfully pointed out that the machine's not as much of a looker as you 00:03:45.900 --> 00:03:55.580 might expect you got your brown knocked to a fans you got your no case window no 00:03:51.540 --> 00:03:58.920 RGB to speak of and my retort to that is 00:03:55.580 --> 00:04:02.099 sometimes it's not about the looks 00:03:58.920 --> 00:04:05.280 sometimes it's about the raw power that 00:04:02.099 --> 00:04:08.700 looks good to me we've got dual Founders 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:11.760 Edition RTX 3090 TI's in here that's 00:04:08.700 --> 00:04:15.120 right the 3090 and the 3090 TI both 00:04:11.760 --> 00:04:17.880 still support Envy link which means that 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:22.019 technically you could use them in SLI and games but realistically what you're 00:04:19.799 --> 00:04:26.520 doing is you're using these bad boys for compute and the Envy link connection 00:04:23.820 --> 00:04:31.620 between them ah which you can see right here enables high-speed communication 00:04:28.860 --> 00:04:36.180 between the cards that actually allows them to share the frame buffer share the 00:04:34.320 --> 00:04:40.860 video memory between the two cards to work on larger data sets it's a lot of 00:04:38.340 --> 00:04:45.360 compute Honestly though I think the motherboard i o might be as impressive 00:04:42.660 --> 00:04:52.259 as the GPU compute we have a whopping eight USB 3 10 gigabit per second ports 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:58.020 oh sorry that's all the type A ones we have another type C10 gig port and a 00:04:55.620 --> 00:05:02.820 type c 20 gigabit per second Port we've got Wi-Fi six on on board as well as 7.1 00:05:01.139 --> 00:05:07.560 audio still hook up like surround sound analog 00:05:05.520 --> 00:05:10.860 speakers to their computer I'd love to hear from you in the comments should 00:05:09.180 --> 00:05:16.860 they even bother to include these ports anymore and I really love this dual 10 00:05:14.460 --> 00:05:19.800 gigabit Network ports on this thing what a beast 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:30.900 I guess it stands to reason this motherboard has all the bells and whistles at 999 US Dollars this is the 00:05:25.380 --> 00:05:34.680 pro WS WRX Ade Sage Wi-Fi SE 00:05:30.900 --> 00:05:37.139 it's got a whopping three m.2 slots on 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:41.759 it at PCIe Gen 4 speeds and can support additional NVMe storage devices or 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:47.699 really anything else via its total of seven PCI Express Gen 4 16x slots it 00:05:46.020 --> 00:05:51.479 features one of the most oversized cooling solutions I have ever seen on a 00:05:49.860 --> 00:05:57.120 motherboard and it is chock full of other professional features like the 00:05:53.520 --> 00:06:00.180 whopping three PCIe auxiliary power 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:02.160 inputs and support for ipmi Remote 00:06:00.180 --> 00:06:07.380 Management so you can actually remote into this machine even when it is fully 00:06:04.259 --> 00:06:10.139 powered down update the BIOS do anything 00:06:07.380 --> 00:06:16.440 to it completely remotely we've got a whopping 00:06:11.660 --> 00:06:18.120 256 gigabytes of ddr4 3200 Mega transfer 00:06:16.440 --> 00:06:21.600 per second memory in here the only thing more wild than that is the fact that 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:26.160 that's only about an eighth of the total memory that this platform can support 00:06:23.039 --> 00:06:29.819 and then for cooling this is a bit of a 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:32.819 surprise but vrla Tech has gone with the 00:06:29.819 --> 00:06:34.020 nhu fort teen thread repair Edition 00:06:32.819 --> 00:06:38.400 actually I guess that's not that surprising because Noctua doesn't make a 00:06:36.419 --> 00:06:42.479 threadripper version of their nhd14 or an hd15 so I guess we'll find out very 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:50.940 shortly if this is going to be enough airflow to keep this 64 core 00:06:46.819 --> 00:06:52.440 threadripper Pro 5995 WX cool enough 00:06:50.940 --> 00:06:55.639 teasing are we ready to fire it up there's a peel on the front 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.160 sorry 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:06.300 one of the things contributing to how heavy this is is the 1600 watt power 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:08.160 supply which I mean I could see why they 00:07:06.300 --> 00:07:12.960 whoops I can see why they did that because if you're ever going to upgrade 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:14.880 these 30 90 TI's you will need it I know 00:07:12.960 --> 00:07:19.800 I I know the n-word right you will actually need it for the f word future 00:07:17.940 --> 00:07:24.120 proofing and then the other big contributor is the fact that it's got a 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:30.360 bunch of mechanical hard drives in it in addition to its m.2 storage devices so 00:07:26.940 --> 00:07:32.460 we've got a whopping 3 by 18 terabyte 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:36.660 hard drives in here so you can store all your workstation stuff on the system or 00:07:34.979 --> 00:07:40.560 you can use those dual 10 gigabit network connections to store it 00:07:38.400 --> 00:07:46.139 elsewhere fun fact if you're in North America you will need an entire 00:07:42.300 --> 00:07:48.000 dedicated 120 volt 15 amp breaker for 00:07:46.139 --> 00:07:52.440 just this workstation and the peripherals you have hooked up to it 00:07:50.280 --> 00:07:57.900 Moment of Truth considering the rough ride it got there's no guarantee that 00:07:54.300 --> 00:08:02.000 this is going to fire up first try 00:07:57.900 --> 00:08:02.000 try okay that's all good so far 00:08:02.340 --> 00:08:07.560 man it turns out when you've got enough of them even Noctua fans can make some 00:08:06.479 --> 00:08:12.560 noise oh boy 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.560 are you gonna go 00:08:15.300 --> 00:08:23.639 let's just make sure everything's showing up okay here 64 course all right 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:25.620 there's our four terabyte fire Cuda 530s 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:31.319 for a total of eight terabytes of PCIe Gen 4 storage 16 00:08:28.280 --> 00:08:35.279 PCIe Gen 4 bandwidth to all of those 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:36.779 slots absolutely Wild 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:41.820 I guess we're just going to boot into Windows to find if those hard drives 00:08:39.300 --> 00:08:44.640 made it I hear them clicking so should be okay 00:08:43.140 --> 00:08:48.420 we had an issue booting it up the first time but I think I've solved it some of 00:08:46.380 --> 00:08:52.920 these workstation or server boards I guess is where they would inherit it 00:08:49.560 --> 00:08:57.000 from actually number the PCIe slots one 00:08:52.920 --> 00:08:59.100 to seven from the bottom so I asked Jake 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:03.240 our producer to plug the monitor into the top card thinking that would be the 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:06.540 primary slot when in fact it would be the bottom card that would be in the 00:09:04.860 --> 00:09:09.740 primary slot and I think we're gonna boot up just fine now 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:17.880 oh well this is some useful feedback for vrla Tech what they've done is they've 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:23.160 tied all these cables at the back together which can actually create a 00:09:20.339 --> 00:09:27.600 large mass that can move around in shipping putting more strain than you 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:32.459 would expect on the connectors that are attached to that that big massive cable 00:09:29.640 --> 00:09:37.980 and you can see our primary card had its power to slip out whoopsie daisies here 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:40.580 we go Sprint 00:09:41.339 --> 00:09:47.580 I think a receipt of our gpus might be in order here and the glass half full 00:09:45.779 --> 00:09:51.180 angle on that is at least it gives me an excuse to talk about the LTT ratcheting 00:09:49.920 --> 00:09:54.420 screwdriver which as you guys can see I'm using to 00:09:52.920 --> 00:09:57.959 remove these thumb screws without accidentally dropping them got it all 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:03.660 sorted there can be issues with auto negotiating PCIe link speeds on some AMD 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:08.420 systems looks like we ran into that but by manually setting both of our gpus to 00:10:06.060 --> 00:10:15.839 PCIe gen 4. success everything looks good 00:10:12.920 --> 00:10:23.720 oh my word the question now becomes what can we do 00:10:18.779 --> 00:10:23.720 with this I mean we can game 00:10:23.760 --> 00:10:30.060 cyberpunk wouldn't launch according to CD projekt Red's website the most common 00:10:27.660 --> 00:10:34.019 reason for that is not meeting the minimum required spec I suspect that 00:10:31.800 --> 00:10:37.320 wasn't the issue today in any case we're going to play do maternal instead I 00:10:35.940 --> 00:10:41.459 think it's probably been over a year since I've used SLI to be clear nobody 00:10:40.019 --> 00:10:45.540 recommends that on a gaming machine anymore I mean not even vrla Tech like 00:10:43.740 --> 00:10:50.700 they have a lineup of gaming machines and I'm sure that they pretty much 00:10:48.300 --> 00:10:56.640 universally do not have SLI but they can't stop me from using it for gaming 00:10:52.980 --> 00:10:59.060 so you know the micro stuttering here is 00:10:56.640 --> 00:11:04.260 not bad you know why because it's only using one of the gpus 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:10.260 love it but it's running great 175 200 FPS I 00:11:08.880 --> 00:11:14.459 don't know if I've ever seen it this smooth on Ultra nightmare settings at 4K 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:19.680 and I am of course recording at the same time effortlessly at least that's 00:11:16.560 --> 00:11:21.540 something the second DP you can do wow 00:11:19.680 --> 00:11:30.360 the GPU that's actually being used topped out at just a 74 degrees our CPU 00:11:25.740 --> 00:11:33.360 never went over 55 56. 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:35.100 fans they work all right let's try and 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:40.710 find something that we'll actually use both of our gpus and our CPU though all 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:44.580 right here we go CPU multi-core and 00:11:54.620 --> 00:12:01.560 done not bad 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:04.380 D7000 points oh my God it completes the 00:12:01.560 --> 00:12:09.240 benchmarks so fast that it gets a short cooling cycle in between actually being 00:12:07.140 --> 00:12:13.440 utilized it ain't the quietest machine in the world but you can't fault the 00:12:11.160 --> 00:12:19.560 cooling performance we've settled in at around 66 degrees Celsius Max on the CPU 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:24.120 of course this is without the gpus blowing hot air at it so I've got an 00:12:21.899 --> 00:12:27.300 idea for how we can hit it a little harder we're going to go into our 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:33.720 cinebench preferences and we are going to use only 96 of our CPU threads that's 00:12:31.740 --> 00:12:40.019 out of 128. we're going to go ahead and start that then we're going to go into 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:42.839 blender I've already disabled our CPU so 00:12:40.019 --> 00:12:46.740 I'm gonna see that it's done set it to 10 000 samples and we're going to hit 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:51.180 both of our gpus with Peak hardness 00:12:48.779 --> 00:13:00.540 and see what happens uh ten thousand samples okay let's try that again hello 00:12:53.220 --> 00:13:03.000 there we go 94 CPU usage 96 to 97 GPU 00:13:00.540 --> 00:13:05.760 usage good this still actually has some time remaining on it let's have a look 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:11.820 at what our temps look like it doesn't get any louder so that's a plus 00:13:08.700 --> 00:13:16.040 definitely a cooling first design I 00:13:11.820 --> 00:13:16.040 wouldn't oh crap we blew the breaker 00:13:16.800 --> 00:13:24.839 that makes sense yeah it does okay one moment please and this is why 00:13:22.500 --> 00:13:30.120 you should always use a UPS that is appropriately sized for your machine you 00:13:26.459 --> 00:13:31.740 see this forced to install Graphics I 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:36.360 don't even have GPU drivers anymore after that crash 00:13:33.959 --> 00:13:41.399 to be clear this is not the rl8's text issue this is just you should not let 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:47.040 your computer shut down suddenly in the middle of a heavy load like that short 00:13:43.620 --> 00:13:48.899 circuit more like blown circuit after a 00:13:47.040 --> 00:13:54.839 reboot we're still having the problem so I guess it's time for a quick Tech tip 00:13:51.540 --> 00:13:56.880 this is a little utility called ddu that 00:13:54.839 --> 00:14:01.079 anytime you're having a GPU driver issue is the first thing you want to turn to 00:13:58.560 --> 00:14:03.779 yes before you contact tech support at your system integrator or whatever the 00:14:02.700 --> 00:14:08.700 case may be please wait man if the amount of effort 00:14:07.139 --> 00:14:14.760 it takes to get a system up and running has any impact on the end result this 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:19.820 thing's gonna be freaking amazing ddu Tech tips 00:14:17.459 --> 00:14:26.279 display driver uninstaller here we go GPU NVIDIA perfect clean and restart 00:14:23.160 --> 00:14:27.300 highly recommended let's go I didn't do 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.260 anything but I think we're back 00:14:30.899 --> 00:14:38.700 why Windows search why 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:40.920 why not the 64 one 00:14:38.700 --> 00:14:45.360 that's what everyone on the web wants hey maybe that one yet 00:14:43.500 --> 00:14:50.399 idiots feels kind of like a like a spiritual 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.420 dance at this point more than actual troubleshooting 00:14:52.079 --> 00:14:58.699 because this is on here fine there was there was nothing wrong with how this 00:14:55.980 --> 00:14:58.699 was installed 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:09.240 okay sure do not I repeat do not let your computer 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:13.860 suddenly lose power in the middle of a heavy load like that immediately the 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:17.940 message comes up I click it and then it proceeds to not launch the NVIDIA 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:22.380 control panel I love it it's almost like slis of dead technology no one cares 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:27.240 about anymore okay here we go we're enabling it be clear when I say dead I 00:15:24.540 --> 00:15:32.820 mean for gaming for other workloads it can still be very useful 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:33.839 crushing Center bench brushing blender 00:15:32.820 --> 00:15:38.399 rendering screen recording is there anything it 00:15:37.139 --> 00:15:46.680 can't do how about go shopping on lttstore.com 00:15:43.560 --> 00:15:49.800 wow it can do that too look at this guy 00:15:46.680 --> 00:15:53.880 has a hood package power on that CPU 00:15:49.800 --> 00:15:57.120 just shy of 300 watts GPU power in the 00:15:53.880 --> 00:15:59.459 neighborhood of 300 watts each this is 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:02.699 really not very consumer grade I'm sure there's a consumer somewhere spending 00:16:01.019 --> 00:16:06.360 like 20 grand on a computer just because they can not that you're stuck with Zen 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:10.380 3 vrla Tech offers five different workstation lineups ryzen ryzen 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:14.760 threadripper ryzen threadripper Pro and then also Intel Core and Xeon so you can 00:16:13.199 --> 00:16:19.139 kind of pick your poison just depends on what you're doing depending on the industry it might be better to have 00:16:17.100 --> 00:16:22.680 fewer cores that clock higher and are more cost effective or you might 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:26.279 actually need a ton of course ECC memory support and all of that full fat 00:16:23.940 --> 00:16:30.600 workstation stuff sponsored or not this is a great result for the thermals on 00:16:28.079 --> 00:16:36.600 this system our CPU ended up under 80 degrees 76 to be precise and our gpus 00:16:33.899 --> 00:16:42.360 the bottom one is 65 degrees with the top one which is taking in hot air from 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:44.000 the bottom GPU at just 75 degrees 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:49.980 that is very very reasonable and it actually 00:16:47.579 --> 00:16:55.019 didn't get any noisier thanks to the Noctua cooling fans pretty sick the main 00:16:52.800 --> 00:16:58.139 reason vrla Tech sent over a workstation was because after looking at their 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:02.699 gaming PCs I was kind of curious what they can do and while nineteen thousand 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:08.040 dollars obviously a lot of money you can see where it went I mean spec it out 00:17:05.459 --> 00:17:11.939 this Hardware just is that expensive if it's not for you don't worry you can 00:17:09.959 --> 00:17:15.480 check out vrla text Frederick for pro workstations or the ones based on maybe 00:17:13.980 --> 00:17:19.679 something more reasonable like an Intel core or a regular ryzen 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