1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:07,620 I wouldn't oh crap we blew the breaker you know why this computer costs twenty 2 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:11,340 thousand dollars because it was from the bulk aisle and they charge by the pound 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:16,080 there just kidding it all comes down to 4 00:00:13,740 --> 00:00:23,699 Performance this video is sponsored by vrla Tech and they're having us take a 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:25,800 look at a top tier specimen ah from 6 00:00:23,699 --> 00:00:32,040 their threadripper Pro workstation lineup oh my gosh this thing is heavy 7 00:00:30,359 --> 00:00:35,700 oh and on my laptop you've seen the fractal defying 7xl 8 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:39,360 before I think last time around we put about 20 hard drives in it but if you 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,800 don't fill it up with hard drives it can fit all kinds of other cool things 10 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:47,219 optional solid top panel will not be needing that with the kind of Hardware 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:51,120 we've got stuffed in here extra hard drive sleds 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,960 let's take a look at the accessories vrla Tech includes 13 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:59,579 okay screws this is just all the accessories that would have been included in the Box for the Enthusiast 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:06,720 grade parts that they're using but instead they Consolidated this is the 15 00:01:02,219 --> 00:01:08,100 lot of PCI slot covers a second bag has 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:13,500 all the power cables that we're going to need for our power supply and the event that we want to plug it into the wall or 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:17,100 wish to upgrade the machine in the future not that there's anything to 18 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:22,860 upgrade it to today since it's already the absolute freaking top of the line 19 00:01:20,820 --> 00:01:28,140 oh until the wheels fall off your trailer man the defined 7xl feels like 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:32,820 kind of a relic of a bygone era you know who wants a mini ITX small form tractor 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:38,520 machine the bigger the computer the better in this case that does actually 22 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:41,220 appear to be true oh 23 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:46,079 the bottom of the case is one gigantic removable mesh air filter so that's 24 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:51,360 where a ton of our air intake is Gonna Come From but just that not going to be 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:56,700 enough for the there goes my back panel I appear to have experienced 26 00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:58,560 some shipping damage oh yeah there's no 27 00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:02,220 windowed side panel or anything hey this is all professional all the times I'm 28 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:06,360 not getting derailed though I want to still talk about the outside where at 29 00:02:04,020 --> 00:02:13,560 the front we're going to find oh I like this four I've Noctua's nfa12 fans 30 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:15,660 that's gonna be some hair flow oh and on 31 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:20,760 the top we got another four of them that's over 200 US dollars and fans 32 00:02:18,599 --> 00:02:25,680 alone wow it's full of bubbles this is 33 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:30,599 actually more necessary than you'd probably think remember that thing that just happened where this thing probably 34 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:34,440 got kicked around by The Courier and one of the little plastic Clips managed to 35 00:02:31,980 --> 00:02:39,540 break off this prevents anything like that from happening inside so that you 36 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:43,920 can at least still run the machine while you wait for vrla Tech to get you sorted 37 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:49,319 out with a replacement little plastic clip what it means though is that it is 38 00:02:46,379 --> 00:02:53,400 Trey's important that you pull all of this stuff out before you actually try 39 00:02:51,239 --> 00:02:57,720 to run the system it looks like this particular piece needs to be removed 40 00:02:55,379 --> 00:03:01,800 from the back definitely be careful pulling this boy out because if it gets 41 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:06,540 caught on a cable like a SATA cable or something like that it could conceivably 42 00:03:03,959 --> 00:03:12,060 rip it off but it looks like ours came out without anything eventful happening 43 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:14,099 I do think this system got an extremely 44 00:03:12,060 --> 00:03:18,239 rough ride though you can actually see this cable right here is coming out at a 45 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:22,500 bit of a strange angle from that hard drive it's not broken or anything it 46 00:03:20,220 --> 00:03:25,800 just a little bit that seems to be the worst of it though everything is 47 00:03:23,940 --> 00:03:30,000 strapped down nice and tight held in place so it can't really come loose from 48 00:03:27,959 --> 00:03:32,640 its connector and shipping and it's nice to see that even though there's no 49 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,180 window on the case they're still taking the time to Cable manage it properly and 50 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,019 that's one of the reasons that that's so important especially for a pre-built 51 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:43,560 system that's going to be shipped you know halfway across the continent 52 00:03:41,459 --> 00:03:48,599 Brandon helpfully pointed out that the machine's not as much of a looker as you 53 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:55,580 might expect you got your brown knocked to a fans you got your no case window no 54 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:58,920 RGB to speak of and my retort to that is 55 00:03:55,580 --> 00:04:02,099 sometimes it's not about the looks 56 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:05,280 sometimes it's about the raw power that 57 00:04:02,099 --> 00:04:08,700 looks good to me we've got dual Founders 58 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Edition RTX 3090 TI's in here that's 59 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:15,120 right the 3090 and the 3090 TI both 60 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:17,880 still support Envy link which means that 61 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:22,019 technically you could use them in SLI and games but realistically what you're 62 00:04:19,799 --> 00:04:26,520 doing is you're using these bad boys for compute and the Envy link connection 63 00:04:23,820 --> 00:04:31,620 between them ah which you can see right here enables high-speed communication 64 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:36,180 between the cards that actually allows them to share the frame buffer share the 65 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:40,860 video memory between the two cards to work on larger data sets it's a lot of 66 00:04:38,340 --> 00:04:45,360 compute Honestly though I think the motherboard i o might be as impressive 67 00:04:42,660 --> 00:04:52,259 as the GPU compute we have a whopping eight USB 3 10 gigabit per second ports 68 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:58,020 oh sorry that's all the type A ones we have another type C10 gig port and a 69 00:04:55,620 --> 00:05:02,820 type c 20 gigabit per second Port we've got Wi-Fi six on on board as well as 7.1 70 00:05:01,139 --> 00:05:07,560 audio still hook up like surround sound analog 71 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,860 speakers to their computer I'd love to hear from you in the comments should 72 00:05:09,180 --> 00:05:16,860 they even bother to include these ports anymore and I really love this dual 10 73 00:05:14,460 --> 00:05:19,800 gigabit Network ports on this thing what a beast 74 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:30,900 I guess it stands to reason this motherboard has all the bells and whistles at 999 US Dollars this is the 75 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:34,680 pro WS WRX Ade Sage Wi-Fi SE 76 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:37,139 it's got a whopping three m.2 slots on 77 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:41,759 it at PCIe Gen 4 speeds and can support additional NVMe storage devices or 78 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:47,699 really anything else via its total of seven PCI Express Gen 4 16x slots it 79 00:05:46,020 --> 00:05:51,479 features one of the most oversized cooling solutions I have ever seen on a 80 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:57,120 motherboard and it is chock full of other professional features like the 81 00:05:53,520 --> 00:06:00,180 whopping three PCIe auxiliary power 82 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,160 inputs and support for ipmi Remote 83 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:07,380 Management so you can actually remote into this machine even when it is fully 84 00:06:04,259 --> 00:06:10,139 powered down update the BIOS do anything 85 00:06:07,380 --> 00:06:16,440 to it completely remotely we've got a whopping 86 00:06:11,660 --> 00:06:18,120 256 gigabytes of ddr4 3200 Mega transfer 87 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,600 per second memory in here the only thing more wild than that is the fact that 88 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:26,160 that's only about an eighth of the total memory that this platform can support 89 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:29,819 and then for cooling this is a bit of a 90 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:32,819 surprise but vrla Tech has gone with the 91 00:06:29,819 --> 00:06:34,020 nhu fort teen thread repair Edition 92 00:06:32,819 --> 00:06:38,400 actually I guess that's not that surprising because Noctua doesn't make a 93 00:06:36,419 --> 00:06:42,479 threadripper version of their nhd14 or an hd15 so I guess we'll find out very 94 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:50,940 shortly if this is going to be enough airflow to keep this 64 core 95 00:06:46,819 --> 00:06:52,440 threadripper Pro 5995 WX cool enough 96 00:06:50,940 --> 00:06:55,639 teasing are we ready to fire it up there's a peel on the front 97 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,160 sorry 98 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:06,300 one of the things contributing to how heavy this is is the 1600 watt power 99 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,160 supply which I mean I could see why they 100 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:12,960 whoops I can see why they did that because if you're ever going to upgrade 101 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,880 these 30 90 TI's you will need it I know 102 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:19,800 I I know the n-word right you will actually need it for the f word future 103 00:07:17,940 --> 00:07:24,120 proofing and then the other big contributor is the fact that it's got a 104 00:07:22,199 --> 00:07:30,360 bunch of mechanical hard drives in it in addition to its m.2 storage devices so 105 00:07:26,940 --> 00:07:32,460 we've got a whopping 3 by 18 terabyte 106 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:36,660 hard drives in here so you can store all your workstation stuff on the system or 107 00:07:34,979 --> 00:07:40,560 you can use those dual 10 gigabit network connections to store it 108 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:46,139 elsewhere fun fact if you're in North America you will need an entire 109 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:48,000 dedicated 120 volt 15 amp breaker for 110 00:07:46,139 --> 00:07:52,440 just this workstation and the peripherals you have hooked up to it 111 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:57,900 Moment of Truth considering the rough ride it got there's no guarantee that 112 00:07:54,300 --> 00:08:02,000 this is going to fire up first try 113 00:07:57,900 --> 00:08:02,000 try okay that's all good so far 114 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:07,560 man it turns out when you've got enough of them even Noctua fans can make some 115 00:08:06,479 --> 00:08:12,560 noise oh boy 116 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,560 are you gonna go 117 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:23,639 let's just make sure everything's showing up okay here 64 course all right 118 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:25,620 there's our four terabyte fire Cuda 530s 119 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:31,319 for a total of eight terabytes of PCIe Gen 4 storage 16 120 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:35,279 PCIe Gen 4 bandwidth to all of those 121 00:08:31,319 --> 00:08:36,779 slots absolutely Wild 122 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:41,820 I guess we're just going to boot into Windows to find if those hard drives 123 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:44,640 made it I hear them clicking so should be okay 124 00:08:43,140 --> 00:08:48,420 we had an issue booting it up the first time but I think I've solved it some of 125 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:52,920 these workstation or server boards I guess is where they would inherit it 126 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:57,000 from actually number the PCIe slots one 127 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:59,100 to seven from the bottom so I asked Jake 128 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:03,240 our producer to plug the monitor into the top card thinking that would be the 129 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:06,540 primary slot when in fact it would be the bottom card that would be in the 130 00:09:04,860 --> 00:09:09,740 primary slot and I think we're gonna boot up just fine now 131 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:17,880 oh well this is some useful feedback for vrla Tech what they've done is they've 132 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:23,160 tied all these cables at the back together which can actually create a 133 00:09:20,339 --> 00:09:27,600 large mass that can move around in shipping putting more strain than you 134 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:32,459 would expect on the connectors that are attached to that that big massive cable 135 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:37,980 and you can see our primary card had its power to slip out whoopsie daisies here 136 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,580 we go Sprint 137 00:09:41,339 --> 00:09:47,580 I think a receipt of our gpus might be in order here and the glass half full 138 00:09:45,779 --> 00:09:51,180 angle on that is at least it gives me an excuse to talk about the LTT ratcheting 139 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,420 screwdriver which as you guys can see I'm using to 140 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,959 remove these thumb screws without accidentally dropping them got it all 141 00:09:56,279 --> 00:10:03,660 sorted there can be issues with auto negotiating PCIe link speeds on some AMD 142 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:08,420 systems looks like we ran into that but by manually setting both of our gpus to 143 00:10:06,060 --> 00:10:15,839 PCIe gen 4. success everything looks good 144 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:23,720 oh my word the question now becomes what can we do 145 00:10:18,779 --> 00:10:23,720 with this I mean we can game 146 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:30,060 cyberpunk wouldn't launch according to CD projekt Red's website the most common 147 00:10:27,660 --> 00:10:34,019 reason for that is not meeting the minimum required spec I suspect that 148 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,320 wasn't the issue today in any case we're going to play do maternal instead I 149 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:41,459 think it's probably been over a year since I've used SLI to be clear nobody 150 00:10:40,019 --> 00:10:45,540 recommends that on a gaming machine anymore I mean not even vrla Tech like 151 00:10:43,740 --> 00:10:50,700 they have a lineup of gaming machines and I'm sure that they pretty much 152 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:56,640 universally do not have SLI but they can't stop me from using it for gaming 153 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:59,060 so you know the micro stuttering here is 154 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:04,260 not bad you know why because it's only using one of the gpus 155 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:10,260 love it but it's running great 175 200 FPS I 156 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:14,459 don't know if I've ever seen it this smooth on Ultra nightmare settings at 4K 157 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:19,680 and I am of course recording at the same time effortlessly at least that's 158 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:21,540 something the second DP you can do wow 159 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:30,360 the GPU that's actually being used topped out at just a 74 degrees our CPU 160 00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:33,360 never went over 55 56. 161 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,100 fans they work all right let's try and 162 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:40,710 find something that we'll actually use both of our gpus and our CPU though all 163 00:11:37,740 --> 00:11:44,580 right here we go CPU multi-core and 164 00:11:54,620 --> 00:12:01,560 done not bad 165 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:04,380 D7000 points oh my God it completes the 166 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:09,240 benchmarks so fast that it gets a short cooling cycle in between actually being 167 00:12:07,140 --> 00:12:13,440 utilized it ain't the quietest machine in the world but you can't fault the 168 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:19,560 cooling performance we've settled in at around 66 degrees Celsius Max on the CPU 169 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:24,120 of course this is without the gpus blowing hot air at it so I've got an 170 00:12:21,899 --> 00:12:27,300 idea for how we can hit it a little harder we're going to go into our 171 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:33,720 cinebench preferences and we are going to use only 96 of our CPU threads that's 172 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:40,019 out of 128. we're going to go ahead and start that then we're going to go into 173 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:42,839 blender I've already disabled our CPU so 174 00:12:40,019 --> 00:12:46,740 I'm gonna see that it's done set it to 10 000 samples and we're going to hit 175 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:51,180 both of our gpus with Peak hardness 176 00:12:48,779 --> 00:13:00,540 and see what happens uh ten thousand samples okay let's try that again hello 177 00:12:53,220 --> 00:13:03,000 there we go 94 CPU usage 96 to 97 GPU 178 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:05,760 usage good this still actually has some time remaining on it let's have a look 179 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:11,820 at what our temps look like it doesn't get any louder so that's a plus 180 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:16,040 definitely a cooling first design I 181 00:13:11,820 --> 00:13:16,040 wouldn't oh crap we blew the breaker 182 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:24,839 that makes sense yeah it does okay one moment please and this is why 183 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:30,120 you should always use a UPS that is appropriately sized for your machine you 184 00:13:26,459 --> 00:13:31,740 see this forced to install Graphics I 185 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:36,360 don't even have GPU drivers anymore after that crash 186 00:13:33,959 --> 00:13:41,399 to be clear this is not the rl8's text issue this is just you should not let 187 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:47,040 your computer shut down suddenly in the middle of a heavy load like that short 188 00:13:43,620 --> 00:13:48,899 circuit more like blown circuit after a 189 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:54,839 reboot we're still having the problem so I guess it's time for a quick Tech tip 190 00:13:51,540 --> 00:13:56,880 this is a little utility called ddu that 191 00:13:54,839 --> 00:14:01,079 anytime you're having a GPU driver issue is the first thing you want to turn to 192 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:03,779 yes before you contact tech support at your system integrator or whatever the 193 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:08,700 case may be please wait man if the amount of effort 194 00:14:07,139 --> 00:14:14,760 it takes to get a system up and running has any impact on the end result this 195 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:19,820 thing's gonna be freaking amazing ddu Tech tips 196 00:14:17,459 --> 00:14:26,279 display driver uninstaller here we go GPU NVIDIA perfect clean and restart 197 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,300 highly recommended let's go I didn't do 198 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:30,260 anything but I think we're back 199 00:14:30,899 --> 00:14:38,700 why Windows search why 200 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:40,920 why not the 64 one 201 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:45,360 that's what everyone on the web wants hey maybe that one yet 202 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:50,399 idiots feels kind of like a like a spiritual 203 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:54,420 dance at this point more than actual troubleshooting 204 00:14:52,079 --> 00:14:58,699 because this is on here fine there was there was nothing wrong with how this 205 00:14:55,980 --> 00:14:58,699 was installed 206 00:15:02,519 --> 00:15:09,240 okay sure do not I repeat do not let your computer 207 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,860 suddenly lose power in the middle of a heavy load like that immediately the 208 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:17,940 message comes up I click it and then it proceeds to not launch the NVIDIA 209 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:22,380 control panel I love it it's almost like slis of dead technology no one cares 210 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:27,240 about anymore okay here we go we're enabling it be clear when I say dead I 211 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:32,820 mean for gaming for other workloads it can still be very useful 212 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,839 crushing Center bench brushing blender 213 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:38,399 rendering screen recording is there anything it 214 00:15:37,139 --> 00:15:46,680 can't do how about go shopping on lttstore.com 215 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:49,800 wow it can do that too look at this guy 216 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:53,880 has a hood package power on that CPU 217 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:57,120 just shy of 300 watts GPU power in the 218 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,459 neighborhood of 300 watts each this is 219 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,699 really not very consumer grade I'm sure there's a consumer somewhere spending 220 00:16:01,019 --> 00:16:06,360 like 20 grand on a computer just because they can not that you're stuck with Zen 221 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:10,380 3 vrla Tech offers five different workstation lineups ryzen ryzen 222 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:14,760 threadripper ryzen threadripper Pro and then also Intel Core and Xeon so you can 223 00:16:13,199 --> 00:16:19,139 kind of pick your poison just depends on what you're doing depending on the industry it might be better to have 224 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:22,680 fewer cores that clock higher and are more cost effective or you might 225 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:26,279 actually need a ton of course ECC memory support and all of that full fat 226 00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:30,600 workstation stuff sponsored or not this is a great result for the thermals on 227 00:16:28,079 --> 00:16:36,600 this system our CPU ended up under 80 degrees 76 to be precise and our gpus 228 00:16:33,899 --> 00:16:42,360 the bottom one is 65 degrees with the top one which is taking in hot air from 229 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:44,000 the bottom GPU at just 75 degrees 230 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:49,980 that is very very reasonable and it actually 231 00:16:47,579 --> 00:16:55,019 didn't get any noisier thanks to the Noctua cooling fans pretty sick the main 232 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,139 reason vrla Tech sent over a workstation was because after looking at their 233 00:16:56,279 --> 00:17:02,699 gaming PCs I was kind of curious what they can do and while nineteen thousand 234 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:08,040 dollars obviously a lot of money you can see where it went I mean spec it out 235 00:17:05,459 --> 00:17:11,939 this Hardware just is that expensive if it's not for you don't worry you can 236 00:17:09,959 --> 00:17:15,480 check out vrla text Frederick for pro workstations or the ones based on maybe 237 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:19,679 something more reasonable like an Intel core or a regular ryzen at the link down 238 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:26,579 below and once you're done doing that make sure you get subscribed to ShortCircuit so who did you guys all 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