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when Intel launched the core i9 we got some cpus with legitimately great

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performance like the 7900x that we reviewed but then we also got a bunch of

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confusion uh we got the unnecessary kb lake x there was that whole thing with

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the bootable CPU-based NVMe raid that

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Intel still hasn't fully enabled on their desktop for fear of encroaching on

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their lucrative xeon market to say it was

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sort of disorganized would probably be an understatement

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but that was yesterday today is all about a

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new threat to xeon from Intel themselves again the core i9

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7980xe extreme edition with 18 cores and

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acclaimed teraflop of compute power it's

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a true halo product a shining beacon of

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the technology that will become affordable in the future and you can

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have it today but it won't come cheap

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and neither do Linus tech tips videos today's video is brought to you by

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cyberpower's lineup of gaming desktops featuring Intel's seventh generation

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core i7 processors check them out at the link below

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so what's a high core count core i9 anyway

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think of it this way it's like higher core count anything with more than the

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last generation flagship 10 core is a

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high core count so the core i9 7980xe

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core is actually launching alongside a whole range of hcc chips the 16 core

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core i9 7960x along with a 14 core and

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12 core and okay real talk Intel

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i love you guys but your naming scheme you guys are actually stepping on your

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own mobile CPU model numbers

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it's confusing anywho in terms of

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features there's no real surprises here you've got your turbo boost 3.0 hyper

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threading giving you up to 36 threads 44

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pci express lanes etc all of these new processors are fully enabled with the

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features that we've come to expect from a skylake x core i9 on the x299 platform

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so what are we testing then aside from core counts and clock speeds

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i'll tell you yes it's really just the core counts and

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clock speeds but just doesn't do it just this because

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this is more added horsepower than we've seen in one generation since the core

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series began think about it last gen the best we had this side of

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xeon was 10 cores on the i7 6950x and

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the big reveal this year was supposed to be a new 10 core for about half its

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price which we did get but this fully fleshed out lineup looks

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like more than just a refresh it looks like a fresh more competitive Intel

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i guess they didn't want another AMD sees a gap in the lineup and goes for it

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scenario like with ryzen 7 which isn't to say though that AMD has nothing

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competitive their ryzen threadripper 1950x also rocks almost as many cores at

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16 with 32 threads while costing a cool

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700 less could the new core i9s really justify

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that much of a price gap to find out we grabbed hedt cpus from

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team blue and team red and then for good measure a core i9 7900x and the 22 core

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xeon e5 2699 v4 from last gen all of

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them were specked out with otherwise identical hardware right down to the

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cooler we'll begin with our productivity workloads which actually sees a pretty

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significant performance difference between the core i9 and even the 22 core

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xeon in 7zip and CPU mark while ASUS

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real bench shows a predictable curve for the i9s in the image editing test but

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finds them for some reason trailing threadripper here despite multiple

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reruns to confirm smaller blender scenes like the bmw and

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fishy cat see a slighter difference between the 16 and 18 core chips while

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the more complex scenes like gooseberry and pavilion barcelona stretch things

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out a bit more interestingly threadripper manages to

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stay on Intel's heels here it generally outperforms its price competitor the

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7900x thanks to its much higher core count but in a twist ending that

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surprised no one it's lower per thread performance does hurt it in some cases

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now while gaming isn't in any way the focus of this class of CPU or this video

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we had to test it and honestly the results were as expected pretty

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underwhelming the high core count core i9s pull out some early leads at 1080p

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in deus ex but slip and rise of the tomb raider and then everything levels off at

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4k for both titles the soul exception

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out of our gaming tests then becomes counter-strike go which at both 1080p

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and 4k shows a significant lead for team blue

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synthetics meanwhile give a slight edge to team blue and 3dmark and unigine's

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superposition see similar scores across the board

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the most interesting thing about gaming on any of these is how thoroughly

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trounced they all get by a core i7 for a fraction of the price in all but the

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great equalizer 4k though this too should surprise no one maybe thermals

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will be more interesting well actually looks like all of our processors stayed

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nice and cool with an h115i but the

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higher base clock of the 7960x actually put it closer to threadripper in that

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department power consumption is also pretty straightforward more cores more

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juice but with that said our threadripper platform in general seems

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to pull fewer watts from the wall it should be noted here though that we

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didn't test overclocks for this review since our x299 boards vrm well we don't

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trust it to handle overclocking one of these for long

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and believe it or not we don't purposely try to ruin our equipment around here

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some preliminary readings though at 4.4 gigahertz have this CPU alone pulling

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about 500 watts off the 12 volt rail so

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you're gonna want to pair this beast with a top of the line board like a

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rampage extreme and a heavy duty power supply in order to keep the juice

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flowing i mean the wires get disquietingly warm at these kinds of

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loads or you could just not overclock

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so finally then value our weighted performance numbers put the newly

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launching core i9 7980xc and 7960x at

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the top of the performance heap but when we look at their pricing they do fall

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behind due to their massive price tags

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with that said price isn't the only consideration at this level it is likely

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that these cpus will go into render machines and high-end workstations where

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when you're deploying a lot of them at a time performance per watt is also an

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important factor and while they still fall behind the difference is

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predictably much less dramatic than price was

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so what's the point of these products at all then because clearly they make no

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sense for the average consumer or gamer that's true

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but as long as you don't need ecc RAM support an hcc core i9 workstation is

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going to be hands down the fastest you can buy with the capability to overclock

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it if you're an enthusiast prosumer for truly xeon crushing raw performance

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the performance might not be worth it compared to well Intel's own lower end

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