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your","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":881.36,"end_s":888.24,"text":"next phone bill well hopefully watching me waste 500 on ebay was more fun for","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":886.32,"end_s":891.44,"text":"you guys than it was for me and uh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":890.0,"end_s":897.6,"text":"i guess i'll see you in the next video where we'll take a look at this motherboard with cpus that actually like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":894.72,"end_s":897.6,"text":"work properly","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"six years ago when the Intel xtreme edition 4960x ruled the roost there were rumors of a secret CPU one that was even faster but that no one at Intel would ever acknowledge in any way and until about two weeks ago the most evidence that i had ever seen for its existence was a couple of photos in weird obscure forums that could have easily been photoshopped until the ebay listing went up someone listed they had about a couple dozen of these things the Intel black ops 4.6 gigahertz six core CPU and those specs don't sound that impressive until you factor in that this thing was allegedly created way back in 2013 and they had them on ebay for just 260 dollars not necessarily a great value by today's standards but oh man there was no way that you were gonna keep me from testing this thing out it's real instantly see your current and past network activity detect malware and block badly behaving apps on your pc or Android device with glassware use offer code Linus to get 25 off glasswire at the link in the video description while the pricing of the black ops might not make a ton of sense assuming that you're paying full pop for all the rest of your system components if you were to pair it up with one of these x79 motherboards that's made using recycled chipsets we did a full video on this one recently and then maybe some cast off ddr3 that somebody didn't want there is a pretty compelling argument to be made for six cores at 4.6 gigahertz on a budget of about 360 dollars so that's what i'm going to try first but honestly speaking i have no idea if this thing is going to boot up because there are a couple of things about it that are pretty special 4.6 gigahertz six cores was a huge deal back then this is what is apparently known internally at Intel as an everest chip that means that it is the highest possible speed bin of a given chip design on a given micro architecture so compared to the 4960x which was a broadly available consumer chip based on Intel's iv bridge architecture this was like the kind of thing that maybe only a tiny percentage of dies were capable of so they couldn't even make enough of them to sell in a retail box on the shelf of the local micro center one of the other unusual things about these chips is that allegedly they don't have any support for hyper threading which is weird right because that's been a major Intel selling point going back about 15 years now why would that be so the rumor again we have no confirmation of this is that these were used for high frequency stock trading where single threaded performance is the absolute king and nothing else really matters for example the everest skew from the westmire family of products was the xeon x-5698 that was a six core die that actually only had two of its cores active but it still retained access to its entire 12 megabytes of level 3 cash now as far as we know no stock exchange ever actually ended up using these for trading and these days they've moved on to fpgas and in some cases asics but what we don't know is why one theory is that it was nearly impossible to tame the inferno that is this chip because while Intel could build a 4.6 gigahertz 6 core six years ago what they couldn't do is build it efficiently the listed or well listed the reported TDP of this thing is 250 watts with some users who have gotten their hands on them claiming that they need to down clock them significantly just to get Windows to boot so i do think it's a bit of a long shot for our weird rando motherboard to boot this thing at all but hey the only way to know for sure is to give it a try ain't it uh i don't remember which pins too short for power so oh those ones wow okay okay there we go 32 gigs of RAM uh and it crashed interesting all right let's uh try that again was that it we don't get another post that was a short-lived adventure fortunately i brought a backup plan this i have a lot higher hopes for this one genuine Intel CPU at 4.6 gigahertz press f1 to run setup we might just have to reset some memory all right so reseeding our memory and our CPU didn't help we're still only detecting 24 gigs but we decided what the hey let's do a quick boot attempt anyway completely bone stock settings we didn't even enable an xmp profile for our memory to run at full speed why is razer gaming software able to run while like Windows is still initializing devices this thing managed to boot wow task manager has no idea what it is it just shows up as genuine Intel CPU i've seen this before with some engineering samples we've got 25 megs level three cache 4.6 gigahertz six cores six threads so no hyper threading at idle the heatsinks fine but it remains to be seeing what happens if we actually hit it with a load it's curious why are we only getting 80 utilization oh we need some drivers whoops uh black ops continuation that's part two we're at just 3.6 gigahertz and our CPU usage is pinned at 80 percent i thought it was like maybe some kind of weird driver issue but everything is showing up properly now so i don't get it that is a bizarre stock voltage like i have changed nothing about this thing we might need more cooling too like this thing is warm it's idling at 60 degrees right now 70. lttstore.com so in an attempt to fix both of our problems with this system i've swapped out the board hopefully that'll address getting all four of our memory sticks to show up and i've run and obtained a liquid cooling kit this is one of ek's fluid gaming kits it's not like the most exceptional water cooling on the face of the earth but it'll be better than an air cooler so i would say who could possibly need this much thermal compound but the answer is me now we've got our water cooling setup and because i'm a little bit concerned that even you know a decent water cooling setup won't be enough for this bloody thing i'm just going to go ahead and throw some ice in our reservoir here man this is going to be really inconvenient if i have to swap a bunch of motherboards and crap hey 32 gigs of RAM so we solved that problem and that's weird our voltage is 1.39 at defaults now all right let's do a quick BIOS update just to see how that makes us feel yeah that ice has already melted well i mean mostly i was just filling it with the water that was in my water bottle and because it's insulated it happened to still have ice cubes in it lttstore.com latest BIOS overvoltage error is back and we're back at 1.6 volts super weird how are we at 44 degrees we're not even doing anything now we're at 84 utilization we're still at 3.86 gigahertz though let's try a different board board number three all our memory is showing up so that seems to have been an issue with that first board holy crap it's stuck at 84 again what does this even mean so i don't remember if i mentioned this already or not but i got my hands on two of them just because well there were such a curiosity and i wasn't sure how well this whole thing would go down so i wanted to have a backup and maybe just maybe there's something wrong with that first one hold on a second we should well wait what the what i did notice is we didn't get a CPU over voltage error yeah this is the latest oh there it is CPU over voltage error same stock voltage you know i was really hoping that with adequate cooling we would manage to get this thing booted like at stock speed let's see if we get past 84 utilization here 82. i think i just need to accept that no boards designed for at max a 160 watt TDP CPU are not just gonna plug and play work with a 250 watt one still only 3.87 gigahertz i don't i understand that let's try turning the voltage down 88 is better than 84. clock speed shouldn't be jumping around like this it should be fixed so basically it just does whatever it wants and it's just a matter of turning the voltage down until the system behaves itself kind of tempted to turn it down even more like turn it down to more like a stock voltage which for this one is just a hair over one volt or actually under for some chips why don't we do that and it behaves exactly the same way at least it doesn't run so hot anymore though so i guess there's that so that's it 3.86 gigahertz all core turbo and the only really quirky thing about it is that it comes with a stock voltage of 1.6 volts assuming some kind of incredible cooling system that you'd have to put on it so it seems to me that you need specific bio support for unlocking this chip in order to actually get it to overclock to its stock speed and whether it's due to the utilization issue we're running into or just a lack of frequency because it's not running at 4.2 performance kind of blows like in spite of having two more cores than a 4770k it is getting beat pretty handily here so given that you know let's fire up the ebay bids okay buy it now 140 bucks i definitely wouldn't go through the hassle of goofing around with one of these but i have to know if maybe this is just an ASUS idiosyncrasy and if i try a different motherboard vendor you know maybe it'll work perfectly so i dug one last x79 board out of the moth balls it's a Gigabyte x 79 s something something i can't remember it's just become less about making a video and more about satisfying my own personal curiosity at this point oh wow is this not even gonna post i've got one last hail mary and i think this is very unlikely to work but i recently got my hands on one of these theoretically as quad socket capable cpus they should also be dual socket capable but given that this is not exactly the world's most amazeballs motherboard i think it's very unlikely these things are going to boot in it i'm just i have to try i'm planning a full video about this board by the way because it is really cool so make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss that wait are you going to try and run both at the same time look i'm out of options this is the last maybe compatible board that i have this is the problem with troubleshooting there's always something else to try but in all seriousness this is the last thing i have to try whoa no way holy crap that was actually it sorry can i startle you uh right i'm not plugged wait what the f how did i get into the BIOS why is it detected as 3.4 interesting power management factory long duration power limit there it is performance custom let's leave everything default and just see if it boots well i didn't even plug in a boot drive i really really did not think that was going to do anything so this board has no way for me to adjust voltage so this thing is freaking furnace hot right now but as a total long shot um i decided to disable two of the cores per socket and just see what happens so i've got eight cores four per socket and it did manage to boot oh yeah okay so our water cooled one is at like 25-ish the other one's at like 50-ish at idle so our speed is slightly higher because we're turboing four cores instead of six but our utilization is still 86 percent 10 of 10 very weird not recommended if you use wi-fi a lot on your smartphone why are you paying for a fixed data monthly plan stop paying for what you don't use with ting you can find out just how much you'll save with ting using their calculator at Linus.ting.com they've got nationwide lte coverage using both t-mobile and sprint they will never block throttle or interfere with your online access they have no contracts so you can try out ting for a 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