WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:06.000 15 years ago 2005. 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:12.160 i had just graduated high school a little site called youtube was born and 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:14.080 AMD was riding high yes my friends while 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:19.119 some of you young whippersnappers might not remember it ryzen is not the first 00:00:17.119 --> 00:00:23.600 time that AMD has stolen Intel's performance crown and fed it to them 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:28.640 don't believe me well all i'm gonna need is 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:33.920 my time machine some flux capacitors and three taps of 00:00:31.840 --> 00:00:37.520 my sandals and i'm gonna take you guys with me on a little journey to what it 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:41.440 was like back then 00:00:39.360 --> 00:00:46.640 back then back then 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:48.480 hey wow it's me young Linus and today 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:53.120 we're going to be building the gaming pc of my dreams at my favorite store 00:00:51.360 --> 00:00:59.000 ncix.com using the magic power of the wayback 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:59.000 machine 00:01:00.559 --> 00:01:05.439 poor young Linus he doesn't know that magic isn't real 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:10.560 yet just like no one's told them about our 00:01:07.360 --> 00:01:13.439 sponsor for today's video see sonic 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:18.479 thanks see sonic you guys are awesome and you've been building great quality 00:01:15.520 --> 00:01:22.799 power supplies not just today but for many years and we're going to be using 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:28.880 one of yours from 15 years ago and seeing uh oh it'll be a little awkward 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:28.880 if it doesn't if it still works 00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:45.200 let's start with how we picked all these parts obviously ncix.com ain't around 00:01:43.119 --> 00:01:49.200 anymore and even if they were their website horrible as it was 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:53.520 wouldn't still contain products and pricing from 15 years ago 00:01:51.600 --> 00:01:58.640 actually fun story it wasn't even capable of doing that because none of 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:02.719 that stuff was logged so as a product manager when i adjusted pricing for 00:02:00.399 --> 00:02:09.119 something i was actually interacting directly with the database overwriting 00:02:05.759 --> 00:02:14.080 any previous data which is 00:02:09.119 --> 00:02:16.400 safe anywho we chose december 1st 2005 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:20.879 prime holiday shopping season and used the wayback machine to scout the decade 00:02:18.959 --> 00:02:28.000 and a half old version of the ncix website to create our very own 00:02:24.480 --> 00:02:30.640 way back machine based on what was the 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:37.200 hot stuff of the day so why don't we start actually with the case the slk 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:40.720 2600 amb and it's actually very similar 00:02:37.200 --> 00:02:44.000 to the antec lan boy which happens to be 00:02:40.720 --> 00:02:46.000 exactly the case that i used for my very 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:50.879 first gaming pc oh 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:53.599 it is brand spanking new 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:58.800 that is so cool how much did i pay for this uh you paid i think 80 bucks which 00:02:57.440 --> 00:03:02.159 is pretty on par with what it actually that's like right about what i would 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:07.360 expect it to cost one little thing we're going to have to do is 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:11.920 ignore the uh antec power supply that came with this 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:15.640 case or go ahead and swap that out for a sea sonic this is a nice little upgrade 00:03:14.239 --> 00:03:21.760 we're going to 430 watts my friends 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:24.239 hey look you mock it but back then 430 00:03:21.760 --> 00:03:27.920 watt power supply was like that was pretty good all right now one 00:03:26.239 --> 00:03:31.680 of the things you young kids might be enjoying is that for some reason Linus 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.720 is putting the power supply up in the top of the case 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:41.280 what has he gone mad that's because back in those days 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:42.640 case airflow was designed to go from the 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:48.159 bottom front up across the CPU i mean remember this 00:03:45.760 --> 00:03:51.760 design kind of predates powerful graphics cards that output a ton of heat 00:03:50.799 --> 00:03:56.959 and then out the rear exhaust or in a lot of cases you actually wouldn't even bother 00:03:55.280 --> 00:04:02.159 to have any rear exhaust so it would just get sucked in by the power supply 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:04.080 and exhausted there nowadays in order to 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:08.560 keep the power supply running as cool as possible we actually try to isolate it 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.120 have it draw fresh air in and exhaust it completely separately from the rest of 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:20.560 the system oh and check out our motherboard this 00:04:14.799 --> 00:04:23.040 is the a8n 32 sli deluxe what made this 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:27.199 one really special was that it was running an NVIDIA chipset that at the 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:33.199 time if i recall correctly was actually the first to have support for two pci 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:40.639 express 1.0 16x slots running at full freaking speed 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:42.400 that was the bee's knees unfortunately 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:47.440 this bee's knees got more like kneecapped it was dead on arrival so we 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:51.600 had to settle for the a8n 00:04:48.880 --> 00:04:57.520 sli looking at the pins in here these do appear to both be wired for 16 and this 00:04:54.560 --> 00:05:00.479 premium moniker is one that ASUS actually doesn't even use every 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:03.680 generation i remember them telling me the story of this so this might have 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:09.440 even been a higher end board than the a8n32 for pricing of this board i'm 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:13.520 going to say 280 dollars motherboards have gotten expensive hey 00:05:11.520 --> 00:05:17.919 chips on the other hand actually AMD ryzen looks pretty 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:20.639 reasonable compared to the CPU that we're going to be running for this 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:27.199 monster this is the athlon 64 400 plus and it's not 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:33.440 the first dual core processor but what was so special about the 4400 plus was 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:38.160 that it was the least expensive of the fully featured dual cores with i believe 00:05:35.520 --> 00:05:44.160 it was one meg of cash per core price of this puppy at launch just shy of 800 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:48.479 canadian rubles that's right my friends it's not even an extreme edition or 00:05:45.840 --> 00:05:52.479 anything it's just a CPU i bought this thing right at launch i lined up for it 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:57.520 the installation method is basically the same as it is today you 00:05:54.800 --> 00:06:00.400 lift up that little ARM you put that zif 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:05.759 socket together just a little something like that lower that ARM and bow 00:06:02.960 --> 00:06:09.120 you remember ocz yeah because i remember ocz this 00:06:07.440 --> 00:06:15.039 is still my favorite heat spreader design for any 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:17.360 memory ever you want to know why because this 00:06:17.840 --> 00:06:24.800 is thick and when you shine these puppies up 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:27.360 in a nutshell ocz was selling memory 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:32.720 that was kind of crap and then at the expense of longevity 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:37.039 they were telling people well go ahead just crank the voltage of these chips up 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:40.880 and they'll hit really great speeds and if they die well yeah whatever we got a 00:06:39.039 --> 00:06:44.720 lifetime warranty so that's great because we'll be around forever right 00:06:42.960 --> 00:06:52.000 what would a gig of memory cost back then i'm going to say 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:54.479 250 bucks 242 242 yeah believe it or not 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:59.360 there was a time when he pipes and while water cooling were not within 00:06:57.039 --> 00:07:05.919 reach of the average enthusiast meet 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:07.039 the zalman cnps 7000 flower type CPU 00:07:05.919 --> 00:07:14.319 cooler yes my friends it used the power of 00:07:10.479 --> 00:07:18.080 metal to conduct heat away from the CPU 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:20.639 to this gigantic circle shaped 00:07:18.080 --> 00:07:24.560 fin arrangement they actually ran all the fins like this 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:28.240 mashed them together see these big heavy screws on the edges here holding the 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:33.840 whole thing together then machined it flat and spread out the fins so you're 00:07:31.440 --> 00:07:37.120 carrying heat away from the CPU surface and then spreading heat around the 00:07:35.440 --> 00:07:42.720 entire periphery where it's taken care of by this fan that incidentally gives 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:44.560 you a fair bit of RAM and vrm cooling at 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:48.720 the same time do you think this thermal grease is still good it'll be fine 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:57.680 now because AMD was the enthusiast platform of choice check this out 00:07:54.080 --> 00:07:58.879 cooler compatibility was by default 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:04.240 AMD and then you would actually have to adapt the thing if you wanted to install 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:10.000 it on an Intel socket so that means installing on AMD was super simple all 00:08:06.960 --> 00:08:11.599 you had to do was take the built-in hook 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:16.800 hook it over one side of the socket a little something like that then on the other side zalman actually included this 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:20.400 handy dandy little thumb pressy thingamajiggy here but some coolers 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:24.560 actually expected you to use a screwdriver to push it down which led to 00:08:22.479 --> 00:08:29.599 a lot of screwdrivers being driven into motherboard pcbs oh i love this this 00:08:27.039 --> 00:08:34.320 motherboard is actually from ncix too this label is still white these were 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:38.159 heat sensitive labels so that ncix could tell if you tried to use a heat gun to 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:41.919 remove it and put it onto something else so that means that this CPU lived a very 00:08:40.560 --> 00:08:45.839 cool life if you guys like this kind of enthusiast 00:08:43.760 --> 00:08:50.959 retro stuff we got our hands on an astendo monitor which as far as we can 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:54.880 tell is the first consumer ultra wide monitor from 2008 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:58.720 so make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss that it was pretty common for 00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:03.440 the five and a quarter inch bays and the area behind them to basically just get 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:07.279 all the extra cables jammed into them that was what passed for cable 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:12.720 management you can see there's actually literally no room behind the motherboard 00:09:09.040 --> 00:09:14.560 tray porcy sonic having to show off like 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:19.920 15 year old innovations or what passed for them this 00:09:16.800 --> 00:09:22.720 is pre-pci express power 00:09:19.920 --> 00:09:29.360 we may have made an error mistake or as i call it an error 00:09:25.680 --> 00:09:32.000 these graphics cards do have 6 pin pci 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:37.440 express connectors and i believe 6000 series was the first one to have 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:40.880 those so this power supply must just ever so slightly predate these graphics 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:47.040 cards we're not actually going to be running sli unfortunately one of these 00:09:42.640 --> 00:09:50.240 is a 6800 gs and the other is a 6800 gt 00:09:47.040 --> 00:09:52.959 this card was the hotness back then it 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:57.360 was almost as fast as a 6800 ultra especially if you overclocked it and 00:09:55.279 --> 00:10:04.399 this was the first generation of NVIDIA cards to support sli 00:09:59.760 --> 00:10:05.600 so two 6800 gts compared to one 6800 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:09.279 ultra in games that scaled well with sli would 00:10:07.920 --> 00:10:14.560 absolutely wipe the floor with the 6800 ultra from 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:19.120 a price to performance standpoint i took two pci slot covers out automatically 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:22.480 even though this is only a single slot card that's hilarious it was pretty 00:10:20.800 --> 00:10:26.399 common to have to use these adapters and graphics cards would actually usually 00:10:24.640 --> 00:10:30.720 come with them pretty common place for people to change over their core 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.600 platform or upgrade a graphics card and carry forward a perfectly good power 00:10:32.640 --> 00:10:38.079 supply front panel audio 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:42.079 there it is i couldn't see it because there's jumpers on it i forgot so 00:10:40.079 --> 00:10:46.000 depending on your motherboard sometimes you would want to hook up like ac97 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:50.079 front paddle audio and then sometimes you do hd audio this was right around 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:56.480 the transition period you know what i'm not going to bother hooking it up graphics card i want to say 00:10:54.320 --> 00:11:00.279 380 it was 238.90 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:06.240 wow you can barely get like 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:13.120 an entry-level gtx card for that these days up here in 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:15.839 canadia land check this out so this is a 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:20.560 fancy floppy cable it's rounded for better cable management 00:11:18.160 --> 00:11:25.760 you guys take your round cables for granted kids 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:25.760 you know what else you take for granted 00:11:25.920 --> 00:11:32.880 cost of monitors we decided to you know 00:11:29.680 --> 00:11:34.880 do a glow up pc here we went lcd and i'm 00:11:32.880 --> 00:11:41.399 guessing that this thing was worth like 450 bucks 00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:45.279 you're off a bit uh it's 324. 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:47.839 324 that's 300 more than i would pay for 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:52.079 it as for plugging it in i knew i kept all these dvi to vga adapters around for 00:11:50.160 --> 00:11:56.279 a reason that's one thing i don't miss about single slot graphics cards 00:11:57.760 --> 00:12:04.959 this just fire right up like that wow 00:12:01.920 --> 00:12:06.880 this was back when logitech was at the 00:12:04.959 --> 00:12:12.399 top of their game for gaming peripherals this is the first generation g15 mx518 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:15.839 man this thing's a freaking legend it's actually taran's keyboard that he uses 00:12:14.079 --> 00:12:19.120 here at work that's why it has all these like stickers and crap on it there's 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:23.440 even stickers on all these keys because he actually wore them off 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:28.399 just tearing things if i recall correctly this guy was about 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:32.000 120 bucks and i'm guessing this puppy 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:33.760 was around 45 55 bucks 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:37.360 now that's a name i've not heard in a long time 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:41.600 Windows xp welcome let's start with what would have been 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:45.680 the first game i'd check out after an upgrade in 2005 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:49.120 oh yeah far cry 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:53.440 the first one it really doesn't look as good as i 00:12:51.680 --> 00:12:58.480 remember it oh those god rays though those would 00:12:55.519 --> 00:13:03.920 have impressed 2005 me when you walked up to this like bent 00:13:00.880 --> 00:13:06.720 rebar like hole here and you saw that 00:13:03.920 --> 00:13:11.839 those reflections on the water and that gorgeous skybox all this foliage 00:13:09.839 --> 00:13:15.760 that was a moment didn't used to be that these bars were sky i don't know what's 00:13:13.760 --> 00:13:19.600 up with that but uh look at that meat 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:25.360 bow take that meat got that physics right there oh uh 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:25.360 whoops you need to die now thanks 00:13:25.920 --> 00:13:32.240 what the am i out of ammo i'm out of freaking ammo 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:37.200 i forgot how hard this game was that's not to say that far cry was the only 00:13:34.560 --> 00:13:42.079 demanding game from that era fear was one of my favorites first encounter 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:47.279 assault recon we're setting our graphics card to maximum sure let's see how let's 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:52.880 see how we do here why am i in a dumpster did i fall through the dumpster 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:55.440 i think i'm like clipped i'm clipped in the dumpster 00:13:54.639 --> 00:14:00.160 what dumpster simulator 2005. oh 00:13:58.560 --> 00:14:03.839 oh you killed it ut 2004 then 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:17.040 oh taren's a key is coming off and my ring finger is all sticky now 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:21.680 whoops whoops i know oops actually a lot of his keys are 00:14:18.800 --> 00:14:25.760 coming off oh yeah winner this is what chicken dinner looked like 00:14:23.199 --> 00:14:31.839 back then so that's it young ladies and gentlemen that is what passed for a 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:34.480 freaking sick AMD gaming rig the last 00:14:31.839 --> 00:14:38.320 time they were on top and that was what passed for 00:14:35.680 --> 00:14:43.680 good graphics back then so we've come a long way in both regards 00:14:40.800 --> 00:14:48.720 hey good job AMD good job game developers and good job see sonic 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:53.360 for sponsoring this video whether it's 15 years ago or today or 15 years from 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:58.160 now you can count on c sonic to provide the power that you 00:14:55.519 --> 00:15:01.760 need for your gaming rig or workstation or whatever else the heck it is that you 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:06.399 need they've got a wide variety of products with up to 80 plus titanium 00:15:04.160 --> 00:15:10.800 efficiency modular interfaces they've even got their like seasonic connect 00:15:08.560 --> 00:15:13.600 thing where you've got like the main power supply and then it goes off to 00:15:12.160 --> 00:15:18.720 this thing and you run short cables to all your stuff we did a video about it it's super cool and you can check them 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:21.360 out at the link in the video description if you guys are looking for another 00:15:19.760 --> 00:15:25.600 video to watch that's kind of like this you can actually check out an even more 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:29.519 retro build where i rebuilt my first gaming pc with 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:34.639 almost the exact parts that i used including a soltec motherboard 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:38.720 soltec what's that it's the soul of technology obviously