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15 years ago 2005.

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i had just graduated high school a little site called youtube was born and

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AMD was riding high yes my friends while

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some of you young whippersnappers might not remember it ryzen is not the first

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time that AMD has stolen Intel's performance crown and fed it to them

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don't believe me well all i'm gonna need is

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my time machine some flux capacitors and three taps of

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my sandals and i'm gonna take you guys with me on a little journey to what it

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was like back then

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back then back then

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hey wow it's me young Linus and today

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we're going to be building the gaming pc of my dreams at my favorite store

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ncix.com using the magic power of the wayback

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machine

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poor young Linus he doesn't know that magic isn't real

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yet just like no one's told them about our

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sponsor for today's video see sonic

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thanks see sonic you guys are awesome and you've been building great quality

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power supplies not just today but for many years and we're going to be using

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one of yours from 15 years ago and seeing uh oh it'll be a little awkward

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if it doesn't if it still works

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let's start with how we picked all these parts obviously ncix.com ain't around

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anymore and even if they were their website horrible as it was

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wouldn't still contain products and pricing from 15 years ago

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actually fun story it wasn't even capable of doing that because none of

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that stuff was logged so as a product manager when i adjusted pricing for

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something i was actually interacting directly with the database overwriting

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any previous data which is

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safe anywho we chose december 1st 2005

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prime holiday shopping season and used the wayback machine to scout the decade

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and a half old version of the ncix website to create our very own

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way back machine based on what was the

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hot stuff of the day so why don't we start actually with the case the slk

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2600 amb and it's actually very similar

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to the antec lan boy which happens to be

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exactly the case that i used for my very

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first gaming pc oh

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it is brand spanking new

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that is so cool how much did i pay for this uh you paid i think 80 bucks which

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is pretty on par with what it actually that's like right about what i would

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expect it to cost one little thing we're going to have to do is

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ignore the uh antec power supply that came with this

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case or go ahead and swap that out for a sea sonic this is a nice little upgrade

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we're going to 430 watts my friends

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hey look you mock it but back then 430

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watt power supply was like that was pretty good all right now one

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of the things you young kids might be enjoying is that for some reason Linus

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is putting the power supply up in the top of the case

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what has he gone mad that's because back in those days

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case airflow was designed to go from the

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bottom front up across the CPU i mean remember this

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design kind of predates powerful graphics cards that output a ton of heat

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and then out the rear exhaust or in a lot of cases you actually wouldn't even bother

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to have any rear exhaust so it would just get sucked in by the power supply

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and exhausted there nowadays in order to

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keep the power supply running as cool as possible we actually try to isolate it

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have it draw fresh air in and exhaust it completely separately from the rest of

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the system oh and check out our motherboard this

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is the a8n 32 sli deluxe what made this

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one really special was that it was running an NVIDIA chipset that at the

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time if i recall correctly was actually the first to have support for two pci

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express 1.0 16x slots running at full freaking speed

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that was the bee's knees unfortunately

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this bee's knees got more like kneecapped it was dead on arrival so we

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had to settle for the a8n

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sli looking at the pins in here these do appear to both be wired for 16 and this

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premium moniker is one that ASUS actually doesn't even use every

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generation i remember them telling me the story of this so this might have

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even been a higher end board than the a8n32 for pricing of this board i'm

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going to say 280 dollars motherboards have gotten expensive hey

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chips on the other hand actually AMD ryzen looks pretty

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reasonable compared to the CPU that we're going to be running for this

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monster this is the athlon 64 400 plus and it's not

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the first dual core processor but what was so special about the 4400 plus was

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that it was the least expensive of the fully featured dual cores with i believe

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it was one meg of cash per core price of this puppy at launch just shy of 800

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canadian rubles that's right my friends it's not even an extreme edition or

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anything it's just a CPU i bought this thing right at launch i lined up for it

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the installation method is basically the same as it is today you

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lift up that little ARM you put that zif

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socket together just a little something like that lower that ARM and bow

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you remember ocz yeah because i remember ocz this

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is still my favorite heat spreader design for any

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memory ever you want to know why because this

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is thick and when you shine these puppies up

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in a nutshell ocz was selling memory

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that was kind of crap and then at the expense of longevity

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they were telling people well go ahead just crank the voltage of these chips up

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and they'll hit really great speeds and if they die well yeah whatever we got a

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lifetime warranty so that's great because we'll be around forever right

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what would a gig of memory cost back then i'm going to say

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250 bucks 242 242 yeah believe it or not

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there was a time when he pipes and while water cooling were not within

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reach of the average enthusiast meet

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the zalman cnps 7000 flower type CPU

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cooler yes my friends it used the power of

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metal to conduct heat away from the CPU

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to this gigantic circle shaped

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fin arrangement they actually ran all the fins like this

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mashed them together see these big heavy screws on the edges here holding the

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whole thing together then machined it flat and spread out the fins so you're

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carrying heat away from the CPU surface and then spreading heat around the

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entire periphery where it's taken care of by this fan that incidentally gives

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you a fair bit of RAM and vrm cooling at

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the same time do you think this thermal grease is still good it'll be fine

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now because AMD was the enthusiast platform of choice check this out

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cooler compatibility was by default

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AMD and then you would actually have to adapt the thing if you wanted to install

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it on an Intel socket so that means installing on AMD was super simple all

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you had to do was take the built-in hook

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hook it over one side of the socket a little something like that then on the other side zalman actually included this

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handy dandy little thumb pressy thingamajiggy here but some coolers

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actually expected you to use a screwdriver to push it down which led to

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a lot of screwdrivers being driven into motherboard pcbs oh i love this this

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motherboard is actually from ncix too this label is still white these were

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heat sensitive labels so that ncix could tell if you tried to use a heat gun to

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remove it and put it onto something else so that means that this CPU lived a very

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cool life if you guys like this kind of enthusiast

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retro stuff we got our hands on an astendo monitor which as far as we can

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tell is the first consumer ultra wide monitor from 2008

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so make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss that it was pretty common for

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the five and a quarter inch bays and the area behind them to basically just get

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all the extra cables jammed into them that was what passed for cable

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management you can see there's actually literally no room behind the motherboard

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tray porcy sonic having to show off like

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15 year old innovations or what passed for them this

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is pre-pci express power

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we may have made an error mistake or as i call it an error

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these graphics cards do have 6 pin pci

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express connectors and i believe 6000 series was the first one to have

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those so this power supply must just ever so slightly predate these graphics

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cards we're not actually going to be running sli unfortunately one of these

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is a 6800 gs and the other is a 6800 gt

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this card was the hotness back then it

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was almost as fast as a 6800 ultra especially if you overclocked it and

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this was the first generation of NVIDIA cards to support sli

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so two 6800 gts compared to one 6800

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ultra in games that scaled well with sli would

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absolutely wipe the floor with the 6800 ultra from

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a price to performance standpoint i took two pci slot covers out automatically

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even though this is only a single slot card that's hilarious it was pretty

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common to have to use these adapters and graphics cards would actually usually

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come with them pretty common place for people to change over their core

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platform or upgrade a graphics card and carry forward a perfectly good power

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supply front panel audio

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there it is i couldn't see it because there's jumpers on it i forgot so

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depending on your motherboard sometimes you would want to hook up like ac97

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front paddle audio and then sometimes you do hd audio this was right around

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the transition period you know what i'm not going to bother hooking it up graphics card i want to say

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380 it was 238.90

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wow you can barely get like

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an entry-level gtx card for that these days up here in

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canadia land check this out so this is a

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fancy floppy cable it's rounded for better cable management

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you guys take your round cables for granted kids

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you know what else you take for granted

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cost of monitors we decided to you know

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do a glow up pc here we went lcd and i'm

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guessing that this thing was worth like 450 bucks

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you're off a bit uh it's 324.

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324 that's 300 more than i would pay for

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it as for plugging it in i knew i kept all these dvi to vga adapters around for

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a reason that's one thing i don't miss about single slot graphics cards

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this just fire right up like that wow

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this was back when logitech was at the

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top of their game for gaming peripherals this is the first generation g15 mx518

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man this thing's a freaking legend it's actually taran's keyboard that he uses

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here at work that's why it has all these like stickers and crap on it there's

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even stickers on all these keys because he actually wore them off

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just tearing things if i recall correctly this guy was about

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120 bucks and i'm guessing this puppy

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was around 45 55 bucks

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now that's a name i've not heard in a long time

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Windows xp welcome let's start with what would have been

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the first game i'd check out after an upgrade in 2005

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oh yeah far cry

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the first one it really doesn't look as good as i

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remember it oh those god rays though those would

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have impressed 2005 me when you walked up to this like bent

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rebar like hole here and you saw that

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those reflections on the water and that gorgeous skybox all this foliage

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that was a moment didn't used to be that these bars were sky i don't know what's

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up with that but uh look at that meat

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bow take that meat got that physics right there oh uh

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whoops you need to die now thanks

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what the am i out of ammo i'm out of freaking ammo

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i forgot how hard this game was that's not to say that far cry was the only

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demanding game from that era fear was one of my favorites first encounter

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assault recon we're setting our graphics card to maximum sure let's see how let's

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see how we do here why am i in a dumpster did i fall through the dumpster

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i think i'm like clipped i'm clipped in the dumpster

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what dumpster simulator 2005. oh

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oh you killed it ut 2004 then

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oh taren's a key is coming off and my ring finger is all sticky now

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whoops whoops i know oops actually a lot of his keys are

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coming off oh yeah winner this is what chicken dinner looked like

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back then so that's it young ladies and gentlemen that is what passed for a

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freaking sick AMD gaming rig the last

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time they were on top and that was what passed for

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good graphics back then so we've come a long way in both regards

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hey good job AMD good job game developers and good job see sonic

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for sponsoring this video whether it's 15 years ago or today or 15 years from

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now you can count on c sonic to provide the power that you

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need for your gaming rig or workstation or whatever else the heck it is that you

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need they've got a wide variety of products with up to 80 plus titanium

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efficiency modular interfaces they've even got their like seasonic connect

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thing where you've got like the main power supply and then it goes off to

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this thing and you run short cables to all your stuff we did a video about it it's super cool and you can check them

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out at the link in the video description if you guys are looking for another

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video to watch that's kind of like this you can actually check out an even more

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retro build where i rebuilt my first gaming pc with

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almost the exact parts that i used including a soltec motherboard

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soltec what's that it's the soul of technology obviously