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we're already live where it's already done thank you Colton i appreciate the

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help it was great it was great we have awesome news this week i'm sure you guys

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know of at least some of it there's been the crazy battlefield controversy going

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on why do i give us a big battlefield the crazy battlefront controversy going

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on with the like most downvoted comment of all time on reddit and all this other

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stuff we're of course going to talk about that but there's also some other

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crazy things new too like uh the firefox

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hardware survey has some interesting nuggets of information for us so we're

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going to analyze later on and face id hacked in the first week bam

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suck it apple oh this is not good for anybody except the people who did it i

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guess yeah and if you're watching last night tesla

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unveiled finally their semi truck and a surprise

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the second iteration of their roadster which is their original vehicle yeah

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new fastest car ever fastest production car of all time super epic intro

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it's just it's not so there we go

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almost

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the wang show

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feature tag

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thank you a one in three chance zotek z box system enter to win heck yeah

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mack weldon 20 off i fix it protect tool kit

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why not you will there we go bam we're back and just right into it with the

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battlefront news i think let's do it nicely actually i'm going to

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cut in slightly before this shameless self-promotion big charity stream

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happening tomorrow 24 hours on my twitch channel twitch.tv slash luke underscore

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lafr going at least 24 hours i think it's supposed to be like 27 hours uh

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doing a whole bunch of different games one game per hour iterating every year blah blah blah blah blah blah dude help

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support extra life it's gonna be awesome okay bye anyways next time or be mean or

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or just enjoy your day in some other way um battlefront crazy stuff happening

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there's a post on reddit we're going to show it here right now

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the reddit post was talking about how it takes 40 hours to unlock a hero they

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talk about a bunch of different stuff the post has been updated a few times actually been very well taken care of by

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the hotter potato this has been nuts if

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you've been on the internet this week almost at all even if you're not that

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into gaming you have probably heard about this there's huge controversies

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where countries like belgium are considering uh classifying different

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games as gambling online gambling because of how loot boxes are being

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handled because this post has gotten so

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big that it has gotten two people that manage laws in countries which is pretty

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crazy congressmen are being contacted about this like it's it's blown up to a

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ludicrous degree which is good or bad depending on your stance probably bad um

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let's start at the beginning yeah so the beginning is this post and

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then what really blew it up is the developer responding which usually makes

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things better it super did not i'm sure a lot of this is

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uh same old same old from what you guys have heard so before we get into their

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response why don't we outline what happened to begin with it's basically everyone getting super super duper mad

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because the new star wars battlefront 2 game from ea

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which is a flagship title that costs 80 bucks yes

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also has heavily uh these pay to win game mechanics so

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how that kind of works and i i played in the beta and i started to feel it as

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well is a lot of games have loot boxes you've got overwatch where you get a

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bunch of different skins or portraits or whatever shadow of war had some issues

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here as well where it could really help you with your gameplay but i beat on the

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hardest difficulty without using any of them that's not a brag a lot of people

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did this it's not that difficult of a game

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and it's not that big of a deal this is where it became a big problem

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this is a multiplayer game and they directly give you extremely powerful

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advantages against your enemy not just aesthetic skins and stuff like that like

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overwatch no yeah like directly power you are better you do more damage

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you regen more health you have more health you lock onto targets faster you

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don't get locked onto as fast these types of things but surely you can

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achieve those things from just playing the game and not spending money yes but

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it takes a ludicrous amount of time how much time i don't know the exact hours

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but i think someone calculated it as like over six months it's 40 hours to unlock

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a hero but there's other stuff as well like the the hero that's definitely part

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of it and you can't get vader without playing the game for 40 hours which is

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ridiculous because most people aren't going to play the game for 40 hours single player or like just the game the

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the game it's it's how it's balanced is not based on skill which is another

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thing that's pissing people off if you do really really well in a round and you

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kill a ton of people you're not going to get that many more credits than someone

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who just played for the same amount of time that you did okay which is bugging

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a lot of people which sounds like money making business practice yeah because

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you have to pour a huge amount of time in like 40 hours to unlock something

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like a hero the part that bugs me even more than the hero part the hero part is

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just it hits that 40 hour number so it's easily digestible yeah okay um the cards

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you get these different cards that you put on your character to give you different bonuses okay say you're

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playing the spaceship combat mode i'm in a bomber you're in a tie fighter

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i've spent a whole bunch of money on the game just money man tossing it all over

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the place i have something that makes it so that i lock onto targets 200 percent

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faster holy cow also my bombs do increase damage and i move faster you

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don't have any cards you just started the game you just launched up you were

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just fighting another bomber you're in a fighter you were able to get away from

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them and get out you're like sick okay i got this new move i spin and list

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slightly to the left and everything works out great you try to do the same thing against me i lock onto you 200

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faster you can't get out of the way you're dead yeah okay that directly

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strongly affected gameplay based on card advantages now to get to the top there's

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different tiers of these cards as well to get to the top tier of cards you kind

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of have to craft your way up the easiest way to get crafting

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materials is loot boxes the easiest way to craft your tear up to the top card is

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loot boxes people who spend money will be directly better

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at online competitive modes because of this and it's lots of money

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from if i remember correctly if you want to unlock everything like top tier of

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every card and all the heroes it's like 2100 or something that's i'm saying that

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off top of my head i don't remember exactly but is that like even a realistic thing that anyone would want

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to do or realistically that's the thing yes

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it absolutely is if you look into the game industry right now especially the

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mobile side which are the guys that have been doing more of this kind of like

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loot box pay-to-win mechanics it hasn't been in a lot of full-priced games

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because that's ridiculous that's the whole controversy like do you

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think people would be as mad if this game was free to play no pay to win i

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don't think they'd be nearly because you already paid 80 bucks yeah

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so what they're targeting is what's

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called in the gaming industry is wales right it's small amounts of people i

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i've heard people i know pewdiepie and his videos said 10

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i doubt it's anywhere near that high i'm gonna go with one percent or lower of

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players will spend a ludicrous amount of money these are the guys that'll play a

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mobile game and just be like i'm going to spend thousands and

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thousands and thousands of dollars to wreck all of you literally thousands

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i spoke to when i was traveling i met some people from silicon valley who

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worked in the industry and they said they had a very small percentage of users who had spent over a hundred

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thousand dollars just on on that mobile app yep insane absolutely nuts and there

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are definitely lots of people that will spend that twenty one hundred dollars to

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on day one oh have a huge advantage on everyone else

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that also makes it that you might put in cheats like is it really that fun to

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have god mode it's not quite god mode but it is a

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noticeable advantage and the biggest issue for me is it creates a concept in

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the game where when someone kills you you can legitimately

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say that it was because of something that wasn't skill yeah you can you can

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lose be like overpowered that's imba he just spent more money on the game

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that's why he won and you might not be wrong which is ridiculous

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in lots of games where you're like oh that gun's just overpowered the response

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from pretty much everyone else is gonna be like okay then use it yeah or like

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find a way to counter it get good something like that in this game you could be like he just spent more money

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what can i do and that's a legitimate stance and that

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is ridiculous that shouldn't be able to be a legitimate stance but it has been made so by the developers and it's

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ridiculous because of one of the statements that they said in this

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official post which i'm going to jump back to here

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which drives me absolutely insane it drove the entire internet insane and i'm

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sure you've all heard this but where is it

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and you really mean that this is like a record-breaking oh yeah record breaking

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down it says right now negative 20.9 000

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but it's way more than that i don't know what happened it must have been on a

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slope or auto-corrected curve whatever um but i saw it personally at over 600

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000 and i'm sure it was higher than that at some point in time but

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yeah um let's see here we'll continuously adjust our progression

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mechanics to give players a sense of accomplishment as they all as they

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explore all of battlefront 2. that is driven everyone nuts because the sense

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of accomplishment isn't skill

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it's not doing better at the game gives you more credits it's spending more time

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on the game gives you more credits and you can just skip all of that and have a

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sense of freaking accomplishment by paying a whole bunch of money into the

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game and instantaneously being better than everyone removing other people's

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sense of accomplishment by squishing on them with your cash because you bought

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better freaking cards or heroes or whatever the question i have is when you

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come into this as a noob who hasn't spent anything yet and you get absolutely demolished by someone who has

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are you just going to put the game down and not play it anymore or are you going to be motivated to spend they're

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obviously banking on the ladder but what are they going to spend what do you think is actually going to happen for

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people i think it's going to be a little bit of both if if you have this is the

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the frustrating situation you have right here if you have

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a group of friends uh and some people are saying yeah i think it was a

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slightly different quote i don't know if it was from a different post or this one has been edited or what but i think it

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was slightly different anyways um if you have a group of friends that all

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play games together you guys have been playing games together since high school

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or something and two out of six of the

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friends start playing battlefront all right you normally play a game all

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together but these guys want to play battlefront they just bought it then

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maybe one or two more guys buy battlefront because they were playing

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the last two guys are gonna cave because four out of six have it anyways it's

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very easy if a couple people in a group start playing a game that everyone will

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eventually play because everyone just wants to play together and something new and shiny that's great now you're all

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playing together but jim and larry

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don't have as much time they spend more time at work they're

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great gamers they're great in your crew you love having them there but they

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don't have as much time so to make up for the time they're going to spend

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money on the game even though they're great gamers

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they're top and score charts and everything they could normally make up the time by getting more credits and

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just doing better in the game and something like counter-strike it doesn't

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matter at all because they don't care if they don't have the fancy skins they still get the

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same freaking gun yeah something like overwatch it doesn't matter they don't

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care if they don't look as cool they have the same heroes

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everything's fine or even in destiny they just scale it

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they just scale it and in destiny you there's loot boxes sort of bright

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engrams but they just give you aesthetic items and it doesn't really matter these

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are games where you can catch up through skill or catch up because there's

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nothing to catch up on instead of oh i'm going to catch up by

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spending money that is my mechanic to catch up directly i didn't realize there

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was this time issue it's almost completely separate from the money issue

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it's yeah well that's the big problem is

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they kind of work together the money issue almost is like alleviates the time

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issue but that's some sicko that's like

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mechanic though yeah yeah so like the problem i have is because let's take a

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look at my brother my brother works a lot and has crazy work hours because he

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he drives truck for movie production companies so they work to crazy hours of

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the night they work crazy long hours in general and you usually get on for a

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specific show and they want to film that entire show right so for the duration of

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that show you're working not so amount of hours if he wants to play a game like

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this it's very likely that it would make

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logical sense i'm not saying he's going to i'm not saying he's not going to but

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it would make logical sense for him to buy some boxes so he can catch up to the

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rest of us that would be able to play more if we were playing this game

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that makes sense for him the problem is that the game is based around that yeah

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and it is trying to push people to do that if gaming companies start making

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money they'll try to find ways that make more money yeah so the time and money

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thing are mutually reinforcing yeah yeah the thing about that question of like if

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you are more likely to just stop playing versus more likely to spend money in

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order to not get squashed you already have this sunk cost of 80 80

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bucks that's a big issue too and like oh it's free you could walk away yeah oh if

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i just spend 10 more bucks i'll have more fun but then it's gambling which is

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another huge issue so you spend 10 more bucks and maybe you want to play the

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heavy class in the ground war game instead of the space game or whatever

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you want to play let's just go with the heavy class and you don't get any of the

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cards that you want for the heavy class you already spent your 10 bucks it's gone you didn't get any of that because

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of the cards number of loot boxes and the loot boxes are random

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so it's gambling because maybe now you have to spend more you don't know i like

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playing the bomber in the star fighting game thing i played in the beta

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i only want cards for the bomber i play the bomber on both sides i play the tie

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bomber and i play the a wing i if i don't get cards to the bomber i'm

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just gonna want more loot boxes it's gambling

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you can craft cards too yeah and you can craft someone just in the chat just said

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you can craft cards too great people who spend money in the game

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will be able to craft more cards because they'll have more materials from the

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other cards and the more you play the game if i played that spaceship combat

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game for enough time i would eventually want to branch out of just fighting with

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the bomber ship it's not necessarily true for everyone or y-wing sorry it's

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not necessarily true for a-wing's a little fast one sorry

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it's not necessarily true for everybody but a lot of people including myself are

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going to want to branch out then they'll want cards for other things then you're running out of crafting materials then

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it costs 2100 to get all of the cards in the game because now you actually enjoy the game

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because you spend 80 and it's the only game you bought this season maybe

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it's just frustrating because now that it's here they're building the game

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around it that's one thing that i actually defended shadow of war with

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is when playing shadow of war it didn't feel like they had built the game around

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the idea of the loot boxes the loot boxes gave you money they gave you some

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followers but the entire game it's like smashed in your face that there's these

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no not shadow four it's smashed in your face that there are these orcs all over

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the place and you just need to press the one button and it actually ends the

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combat faster if you want to recruit them so like it the game gives you these

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orcs all the time so it's not that big of a deal i didn't mind it that much it

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didn't feel like the game was designed around it battlefront absolutely

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absolutely battlefront 2 feels like it was designed around the idea of the loot

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boxes instead of the other way around which is bad this is very bad so we

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haven't even got to the news portion which is the fact that after a brutal ama where they just made

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everyone even more mad with their question dodging and brutal unsatisfactory answers

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they made another determination which was for now they're just gonna turn off

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all of it all the ability to purchase crystals in in game will now be uh

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completely off it's offline and john told me that actually if you go to the

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the interface where you go to buy these crystals instead of just removing the

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button and not letting you go into that area

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you can click the button and it brings you just like a random janky blank page

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maybe people on the chat can confirm or deny this but that's i haven't seen that

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i don't i don't have it uh someone in the chat said luke won't be streaming

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battlefront 2. technically i will be streaming battlefront 2 i'll be

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streaming battlefront 2 tomorrow it'll just be the original one

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because i'm playing games throughout the years so i don't remember what year the

00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:36.639
original battlefront 2 came out in but i'm playing it for that year so it's

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going to be all pixelated and wonky and fun so and fun

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there's no loot boxes it's great uh 2007 apparently what no

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maybe it's not 2007.

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um so thing to note about them turning off

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this this uh game mechanic for the buying is

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that they didn't remove it they've just turned it off and they say the ability

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to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date once ea has

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made changes to the game so it's funny because the internet seemed to lag here

00:17:09.199 --> 00:17:14.959
a little bit it felt like if you if you pile everyone

00:17:13.439 --> 00:17:18.160
which isn't fair it's not fair i understand if you pile everyone on the

00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:23.679
internet into one little hive mind bubble they read the first part and then about

00:17:21.679 --> 00:17:28.079
an hour or two later read the second part because the whole internet rejoiced

00:17:25.439 --> 00:17:33.120
like we we we did it read it we we won they took microtransactions out

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accomplished and then like starting

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about half an hour to an hour later it started kind of bubbling up and then by

00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:42.880
two hours later it had passed posts about the original

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happiness that oh my goodness they're just putting the microtransactions back

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in the game and they called it the weight whitening

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yeah exactly yeah so like

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it's it's frustrating because this is so transparent

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they're trying to get this huge wave of people that are refunding the game like

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me to

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rebuy it play it long enough that now they're

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invested maybe they have a group of friends that play or i don't know how

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the great game guarantee works on origin i know that i played for zero hours so i

00:18:15.679 --> 00:18:22.240
was or zero minutes zero seconds whatever so i was able to wait until

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that expires i think so but i don't know if that matters i don't know how the

00:18:23.600 --> 00:18:29.280
great game guarantee works but they're trying to they're going to wait until

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people are kind of stuck in it or can't refund it or whatever and then they'll

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put microtransactions back in they'll make their money off their whales and

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they'll move on i'm sure that the micro transactions i'm sure it's going to be

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they're going to adjust it so you don't have to do so much work

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the disparity won't be so huge okay there was a huge issue there as well did

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you hear about this so they reduced the cost of heroes

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but then right reduces the amount of credits that you get that's right

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so they basically just it was the same basically they did two different moves

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that were both two-faced non-moves yeah

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they were like hey we reduced the cost of heroes by the way

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we also reduced the amount of credits you get don't worry about it right and then they're like hey we removed

00:19:09.280 --> 00:19:14.240
microtransactions of the game by the way they're also coming back don't worry

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about it so it was like a hero used to be a grand but you start with a hundred

00:19:15.679 --> 00:19:21.919
bucks now a hero's only a hundred bucks but you start with 10 bucks

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that's what you're saying it's ridiculous yeah essentially so i guess

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this controversy just got so bad that they were actually afraid of losing

00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:34.000
their launch day sales like that up front eighty dollars yeah that was going

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to get so heavily eroded that they're like okay we can't sacrifice that

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and i wonder at some point because like a lot of these moves are so

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dense like a sense of accomplishment when

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you're answering a spawn a a a post

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which its title is it takes 40 hours to unlock a hero

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and you can just buy it like that's so

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obviously not the right way to respond to that i seriously wonder at some

00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:09.360
degree if this isn't just any press is good press

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because now every single gamer definitely knows about battlefront

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every single mom and dad knows battlefront is around no this is too too

00:20:15.679 --> 00:20:22.480
bad too bad too bad usually when companies take that strategy on they

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only alienate people who weren't gonna get their product anyway

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you know what i mean yeah someone in the chat um

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onihikaje i think i probably butchered that name i'm sorry said disney ceo

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literally called up the ea ceo and told them to remove the option to pay for

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loot boxes because disney started getting craft for purchasing which is mechanics towards children i haven't

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seen anything about that at all if agar did that i'd be pretty badass

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or he's just like looking out for a bro he's like yo this is not going well for

00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:58.000
us don't do it yeah i i don't know i haven't heard

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anything about that um but it's

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it is pretty brutal there are people who

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have been posting examples of like the the disney star wars xd shows the

00:21:08.320 --> 00:21:13.760
animated ones where it's like a show

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about how gambling is bad based in the star

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wars universe it's like a part of the star wars show i

00:21:20.159 --> 00:21:26.720
think it's rebels and it's about how gambling is bad and then they have a

00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:29.600
star wars game that has gambling in it and you can say as much as you want like

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this isn't a kid's game kids are going to play it

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like our generation we played i'm assuming you did as well

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shooter games pretty early on grand theft auto was one of the ones that my

00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:43.520
parents were like i played it a little bit like friends

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houses and they knew and they didn't care but like okay like halo i was in

00:21:45.679 --> 00:21:52.559
there pretty early on counter strike i was in there quite early on oh as anything goes and i grew up

00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:56.080
big time and then like the thing is now it's our generation and a little bit

00:21:54.159 --> 00:21:59.520
above that are starting to have well a fair bit above i guess that are starting

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to have kids at these ages that where you're talking about where they might

00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:06.000
watch something like disney xd you think our generation that grew up

00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:10.240
with like shooter games is gonna care too much if someone plays battlefront

00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:15.840
which is like pretty innocent for a shooter game oh yeah like can you

00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:19.840
can you draw people up your lightsaber humans not just i think i think it goes

00:22:18.159 --> 00:22:23.520
through them i don't think they split in half they just like fall over yeah

00:22:21.520 --> 00:22:27.039
because like ever since i was eight i've wanted to be able to just totally

00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:30.320
dismember people with charred remains yeah i'm not sure i could be wrong on

00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:34.159
that so if you can't do that then like that's

00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:37.919
that's vanilla but like i i don't know kids are

00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:41.200
absolutely going to be playing this game it doesn't matter that it's esr b rated

00:22:39.919 --> 00:22:44.559
whatever i don't even know what it is might be m i don't know what they are i

00:22:43.120 --> 00:22:48.559
don't look at them there's no way what is what is the normal rating okay that

00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:52.240
makes sense teen whatever kids are definitely gonna be playing it

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and gambling's in it and like a gambling mechanic that makes

00:22:54.480 --> 00:23:00.000
you better at the game isn't it and that's bad because kids always want to

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be better there's always that kid in your school that was like my shoes make

00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:08.880
me run faster now there's going to be some kid being like i have a better card for my ship

00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:12.880
i'm better than you yeah that's i could see kids at school being like

00:23:11.520 --> 00:23:17.840
you suck at battlefront because you're a scrub yeah yeah i bet they don't say

00:23:15.679 --> 00:23:21.280
scrub anymore they should bring it back because it's

00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:25.520
retro way up and it's uh pretty cool as far as i'm coming laser

00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:28.320
james thinks you should bring scrub back yeah i know we've talked about this

00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:31.440
topic for a long time but it is pretty important we can get out of it though

00:23:29.760 --> 00:23:35.200
we're pretty we're pretty done aren't we yeah i guess i'll talk about like

00:23:33.360 --> 00:23:38.480
the aftermath and kind of what to do and stuff so a lot of people have been

00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:43.360
bringing this to local representatives because they're trying to get loot boxes

00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:48.000
and games classified as gambling i do think personally that something needs to

00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:54.400
happen um i'm a little bit worried about how far

00:23:51.679 --> 00:23:58.320
seeing things in games as gambling could go because like randomized loot off of a

00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:02.880
monster that you have to farm by spending more time in the game where a

00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:07.679
game is subscription based might be seen as gambling slippery slope

00:24:05.520 --> 00:24:11.760
uh so it depends where it ends but something needs to happen and loot boxes

00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:16.559
are just horrible so maybe

00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:19.760
contact your local authorities to some degree

00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:23.679
well i can tell you the language that the belgium commission was using so yeah

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:28.880
the belgian gambling commission is investigating battlefront because of

00:24:25.360 --> 00:24:28.880
loot boxes and what they said was

00:24:29.360 --> 00:24:35.200
loot crates that you purchase without knowing what's inside can be considered

00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:38.080
gambling because your ability to succeed in the game

00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:41.039
is dependent on chance and therefore it's a game of chance and if it's a game

00:24:39.600 --> 00:24:46.240
of chance so if that individual item

00:24:43.520 --> 00:24:50.159
is purchased and it's a random chance that's that's a good way to define it

00:24:47.840 --> 00:24:54.320
because i don't want to screw with like random chance that is inherently built

00:24:52.159 --> 00:24:58.320
within games well i think that the the emphasis here that in my interpretation

00:24:56.159 --> 00:25:02.480
anyway is that your success in the game really depends on it yeah see that

00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:07.520
anyway this is probably not a conversation to bother have on WAN Show

00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:11.120
but that's where like like if you get a legendary item in world of warcraft your

00:25:09.760 --> 00:25:14.880
success in the game could be based around getting that it affects your

00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:18.480
success for sure but like but it's not but it's not a loot crate and it's a

00:25:17.120 --> 00:25:21.760
totally different style of system and blah blah blah blast pretty should be

00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:25.279
pretty easy to divide between i don't think it's actually going to be a problem so

00:25:24.159 --> 00:25:29.840
let's move on top topic yeah how about that face id

00:25:27.760 --> 00:25:33.440
that iphone x yeah let's jump to that yeah

00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:36.559
oh they did it so how did how did it happen

00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:39.440
it's so awesome if you bring up the pictures of this mask there's actually a

00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:42.480
youtube video you can play the youtube video just with the sound office i don't

00:25:41.120 --> 00:25:48.559
have subtitles anyway uh yeah it's one of those what the heck

00:25:46.080 --> 00:25:53.039
okay i'm gonna show security researchers in vietnam have

00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:57.039
cracked apple's new face id using a composite mask consisting of a silicon

00:25:55.760 --> 00:26:02.640
nose literally paper cut out 2d eyes

00:26:00.080 --> 00:26:05.039
mounted on a plastic frame that they 3d printed

00:26:05.520 --> 00:26:11.120
okay that that's this is no good this is not it well

00:26:09.600 --> 00:26:15.360
there's like a one like a two minute video about what i'm doing yeah this is

00:26:13.120 --> 00:26:18.799
51 minutes i was like maybe i can find the i think it's linked from the forum

00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:23.360
thread okay give me a sec so the caveat here is like even though

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:29.600
this mask only took 50 bucks to make they did have to actually scan the the

00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:30.480
victim's face with like a face scanner

00:26:29.600 --> 00:26:35.440
so that's kind of integral to it but other than that the eyes were actually just

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:39.200
printed out paper and it's a simple silicon nose

00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:42.799
silicone nose getting a scan of someone's face is going to be

00:26:41.360 --> 00:26:48.080
not that easy what did they have to scan it with they used a handheld um like dedicated

00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:51.440
scanner but they say that in their depth scanner yeah in the future you might be

00:26:50.159 --> 00:26:55.600
able to use one of those just like cell phone ones yeah or even just construct

00:26:54.159 --> 00:26:59.520
the image with with um images like just use images to

00:26:57.919 --> 00:27:06.720
make them off yeah okay because if you could be like sitting across the table at dinner

00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:08.720
with someone and oh i'm just on

00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:11.760
and inadvertently get someone's you have to go around them though right

00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:17.600
yeah so not that far because they just have

00:27:15.360 --> 00:27:22.400
the white meshing on on most of the sides

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:25.279
he just used that thing to unlock like if you look at it the size of the

00:27:24.080 --> 00:27:30.400
thing you might show the front at some point here but

00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:34.720
there's a there's a couple things about this

00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:37.840
number one is it's hilarious because at launch apple said that it worked with

00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:42.720
professional mask makers and makeup artists in hollywood to make sure that

00:27:39.919 --> 00:27:45.600
uh masks couldn't be used to hack face id

00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:50.240
and these like random dudes have already done it with something that doesn't look

00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:53.039
all that professional well that's the other thing is

00:27:51.360 --> 00:27:57.600
especially the eyes it's literally just printed out in like his

00:27:55.360 --> 00:28:01.039
face a picture of his face they cut out the eyes from that picture and put it

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:05.279
onto this like mannequin head that's wild and the reason that's especially

00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:07.840
interesting is because people thought from the patents that apple took

00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:13.679
out that eye movement factored in to face id

00:28:11.120 --> 00:28:18.159
but this would suggest otherwise and if i movement doesn't factor into face id

00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:22.720
then that means that you can use potentially someone who is unconscious

00:28:20.320 --> 00:28:26.880
knocked out or even dead to unlock a phone which is pretty scary even

00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:32.720
even the uh the touch what do they call that touch id ah yeah

00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:38.080
even they're super creative even touch id which apple claims is like an order

00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.000
of magnitude less secure yeah face id

00:28:38.080 --> 00:28:43.279
even that one you have it sends like the heat of your thumb so if you'd been dead

00:28:41.760 --> 00:28:46.640
for more than like a couple hours or a day

00:28:45.360 --> 00:28:50.640
they couldn't unlock your phone you could body yeah you can do that slightly

00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:54.720
artificially by like external heating and all this other junk but like it's

00:28:52.399 --> 00:28:59.039
it's not that easy it's a lot harder than just like

00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:03.600
done you know what i mean like it's yeah it's there's always going to be a way to

00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:08.640
get through some form of security nothing is 100 secure but like

00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:13.200
it's kind of sad this has already been done and it's kind of it's interesting

00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:15.919
because cameras on stuff like phones are constantly getting better and

00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:21.520
they're constantly starting to implement things like depth scanning and all this other stuff so we're going to get closer

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:25.039
and closer progressively to breaking through this being easier and

00:29:23.360 --> 00:29:28.399
easier the security on this gets worse over time unless they're actively

00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:32.240
improving it and it doesn't improve it does improve

00:29:30.320 --> 00:29:36.480
itself as you use it or more and more yeah like i've heard of people um being

00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:39.279
locked out when they put their glasses on and it had when they did the initial

00:29:38.080 --> 00:29:45.120
scan they weren't wearing glasses or their hair wasn't in their face so then it locks you out you enter your code and

00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:48.320
when you enter your code it's like oh the the model that we just took like us

00:29:47.120 --> 00:29:54.559
glasses on we're going to add that to the model now so that's that's just expanding the

00:29:51.919 --> 00:29:58.640
model but it's not necessarily making it more secure like see like the having

00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:01.919
hair in your face and stuff is just annoying i don't i don't want to deal

00:30:00.320 --> 00:30:06.320
with it because it gets in your eyes well no

00:30:03.840 --> 00:30:10.159
good call good call but like like with touch id if i just like with mine it's

00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:15.279
not touch id but i have a fingerprint sensor on the back it doesn't matter what situation i'm in i could be

00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:18.799
completely covered in mud if i just like wipe my finger off real quick and go

00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:23.279
burp i get in my phone yeah well you still got the passcode and that but like

00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:25.840
it's just i don't know but it's pretty sick that like i can't even remember the

00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:29.360
last time you use it that's still an action that you're taking right you're deciding

00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:35.679
granted that it's muscle memory that you do automatically after a while yeah you're still taking an action to unlock

00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:38.240
your phone whereas apple is is pursuing

00:30:35.679 --> 00:30:41.679
a time when you just kind of go like do not no you don't even do that you're

00:30:39.600 --> 00:30:45.440
just like look at like by the time you look at your phone it's unlocked that's

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:48.320
sick so they're like trying to get there i guess they should be aspiring to that

00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:51.120
that's because that's optimal use case as long as it's secure it's not there

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:55.279
yet though evidently it's slower than touch id

00:30:53.360 --> 00:30:58.000
which is frustrating fingerprint is pretty insecure though

00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:05.840
yeah it has a lot of issues too it's like 1 in 50 000 or something like that

00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:05.840
yeah it's like i don't know

00:31:08.320 --> 00:31:15.440
a bunch of problems with their methodologies here so the story is absurdly short-sighted

00:31:14.080 --> 00:31:19.840
is there though because some people were saying that it's possible that when they

00:31:17.360 --> 00:31:23.679
registered their face they like had their face obscured or

00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:28.880
something like that or tried to make their face kind of more like the mask so

00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:33.840
that they were more similar yeah but they and there hasn't been there's no

00:31:31.120 --> 00:31:37.919
way to verify that but the researchers did say that they made four other masks

00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:42.399
that didn't work and once those ones failed they

00:31:40.159 --> 00:31:46.240
re-registered re-registered their face on the face id and that after

00:31:44.320 --> 00:31:49.840
registering their face they didn't do any passcode entries to

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:55.039
update it that's what they say

00:31:51.679 --> 00:31:58.080
yeah i don't know i if if nothing else

00:31:55.039 --> 00:32:00.399
all i really want this to stand for is

00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:04.159
to reinforce that anything can be broken into

00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:07.279
um no one should ever consider anything absolutely secure

00:32:06.080 --> 00:32:12.799
this might be better i don't necessarily think it's easier um when i go to i

00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:18.320
always use my phone when it's in my hand i never go like i'm gonna look at it what's on the table um so Linus does

00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:22.799
that we talked about this once and he was like he hated that the fingerprint things were on the back because he often

00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:26.320
wants to like just unlock it when it's on the table yeah he's told me that i

00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:29.640
don't i don't i just heard a lot of boo hoo hoo

00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:36.080
doesn't apply to me either so like it and it's become a natural part of

00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:39.279
picking up the phone to unlock it by the time you get to it yeah so the

00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:43.440
speed thing doesn't help for me personally and face id is slower ed's

00:32:42.159 --> 00:32:47.039
over there mad because he's an apple user and he just doesn't know what it's like to have that fingerprint reader on

00:32:46.080 --> 00:32:51.840
the back do you have a 10 gravy baby

00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:54.840
do you have a 10 no you wish

00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:01.279
he says probably the pinnacle of film technology i don't think anyone's going

00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:04.320
to make anything better after this even apple

00:33:02.159 --> 00:33:07.039
yeah maybe this is the end maybe it is the end

00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:12.640
i don't know if you guys can hear that but um just in case any of you missed it

00:33:09.760 --> 00:33:18.000
that was sarcasm um it's a fantastic tool but yeah i i i don't know i

00:33:16.399 --> 00:33:21.840
i just don't like it for a lot of reasons personally but if you do like it

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:25.919
that's great run with it do whatever you want personal preferences are awesome

00:33:23.600 --> 00:33:29.919
just do know that nothing is completely secure we should also mention that the

00:33:28.159 --> 00:33:33.679
fact that you can like scan someone's face and then make a mask and unlock

00:33:31.360 --> 00:33:36.880
their phone that's like espionage level packing yeah like this it's more likely

00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:41.120
they're just gonna like run by you and grab it or grab it and

00:33:39.120 --> 00:33:44.559
then choke hold you and make your face look at it and then run away or or steal

00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:48.159
your phone and go hey is this your phone and then you look at it yeah it is and then

00:33:49.120 --> 00:33:52.120
thanks

00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.840
that would actually work way too well that's pretty good eh

00:33:56.240 --> 00:34:01.760
if a guy with a bella clava comes up to you and says is this your phone your phone go

00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.640
run it over

00:34:05.760 --> 00:34:10.240
so everyone's gonna have to carry around masks so that if they have to chase

00:34:08.879 --> 00:34:13.040
someone who steals their phone they can put the solution to this is more masks

00:34:12.240 --> 00:34:17.679
yes yeah take those laws away that we can't wear masks everyone has to wear a mask

00:34:16.560 --> 00:34:21.119
so that when they go to unlock their phone they just go huh and then put it

00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:24.720
back down yeah it just occurred to me that there's going to be people in the middle east who like want to use face

00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:27.119
unlock did they

00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:35.040
do they just not use face unlock do they just only use it at home use a passport

00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:38.320
class code public yeah never thought of that

00:34:37.200 --> 00:34:43.520
yeah moving on anyways last night i got to

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:48.960
watch this awesome live stream oh of ellen musk

00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:53.679
it can't be elon ellen what ellen musk degeneres

00:34:52.399 --> 00:34:56.720
they had a child together and they hyphenated the last name

00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:03.680
that like that hurt physically

00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.960
oh i need a moment anyways okay so no i

00:35:03.680 --> 00:35:08.000
know it's elon yeah they finally unveiled the semi

00:35:07.040 --> 00:35:15.200
truck yes which i think is pretty ba the question on everyone's

00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:17.359
mind is uh when and where are you to be

00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:23.040
able to make these things given that you're struggling so hard to produce the

00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:24.640
model 3 for the next like two years

00:35:23.040 --> 00:35:27.920
and you're spending a billion dollars per quarter

00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:32.480
on doing that you can't just build another gigafactory apparently they're

00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:37.040
going to start shipping or not shipping they're going to start producing the

00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:38.720
semi truck in 2019 and the new roadster

00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:43.359
which is going to be the fastest car fastest production car by acceleration

00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:49.680
in the world uh that's 20 20. yeah so things could happen before 2020 and

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:51.839
change that claim but as of right now it

00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:55.119
theoretically is which is really cool there's a lot of

00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:59.440
really awesome things about the truck but there are concerns like you just

00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:03.280
said how are you gonna make this uh i do know their their production lines are

00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:07.040
constantly increasing so

00:36:04.560 --> 00:36:12.000
maybe a theory somewhere says that they'll be able to actually make them

00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:15.839
properly by 2019 maybe one will be made in 2019. are they making two more giga

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:20.480
factories as well they're they're constantly expanding um so i i can't

00:36:18.720 --> 00:36:24.160
claim to know what is

00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:29.359
gonna happen in terms of their production line um semi truck itself is

00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:33.280
pretty dope though did you check it out it looks cool it looks pretty cool and

00:36:31.839 --> 00:36:38.960
it i've been saying for quite a long time that semi trucks and trucks in general are

00:36:36.720 --> 00:36:43.440
gonna be super important for tesla because trucks things that need huge

00:36:41.680 --> 00:36:48.160
amounts of torque are going to benefit from electric engines a ton now there

00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:54.160
are some issues uh coming from the trucking industry like my my grandfather

00:36:51.200 --> 00:36:58.800
uh his job actually for like basically ever was financing semi trucks for

00:36:57.359 --> 00:37:06.720
people and companies that want to get into trucking so a super important detail is cost per

00:37:04.160 --> 00:37:11.920
kilometer or cost per mile and they talked about that in the stream

00:37:09.359 --> 00:37:15.280
that was a direct callout for companies and financial institutions that finance

00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:19.680
these semi trucks because they're extremely expensive that was a direct

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:23.200
hey look at us it's going to be easier to get loans because you can throw this

00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:26.720
number which is one of the most important numbers when you're buying a

00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:30.560
truck that is it is cheaper per kilometer you can also throw in numbers

00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:34.480
like the truck is guaranteed for whatever amount of distance if you have

00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:38.960
a breakdown it's some ridiculous number

00:37:37.359 --> 00:37:42.800
if oh yeah yeah what was that if you have a big oh yeah what happened was it

00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:46.640
it's got four separate independent engines and two of them can break down

00:37:44.560 --> 00:37:50.480
and you can still go like 400 miles or something like that

00:37:47.839 --> 00:37:54.400
yeah it's it's not in this document okay by the way speaking of price they

00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:58.640
did not mention an absolute price at all they only mentioned price per mile which

00:37:56.560 --> 00:38:05.200
they put at 20 percent cheaper again it was only relative 20 cheaper than uh

00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:08.320
a comparable diesel truck it includes the cost of the

00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:12.880
they're not just talking about the truck they're talking about like the entire thing like buying it and insurance and

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:16.320
operating it and maintenance so

00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:19.359
maintenance is going to be a big reason why that number is lower yeah yeah just

00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:25.119
gonna put that out there right now another huge issue only goes 500 miles

00:38:22.240 --> 00:38:29.040
on one charge uh the only there is probably not properly placed someone in

00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:33.920
chat said only most trucking routes are able to be there and back within that

00:38:30.640 --> 00:38:35.440
time and truckers are man mandated to

00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:39.359
take breaks that is a huge deal in

00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.760
i know north america i don't know outside of that

00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:48.160
you have to take breaks and that is within the amount of distance that

00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:51.920
you would be able to reasonably travel within one of your brakes easily your

00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:56.480
brake has to be half an hour during the brake it can charge for 500 miles of

00:38:54.079 --> 00:39:00.320
further dis or 400 400 miles of further distance during that break and you'll be

00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:04.160
able to keep going that's not really a major point as long

00:39:02.560 --> 00:39:08.160
as they actually have the i think they're called super charging stations i

00:39:05.680 --> 00:39:11.520
think actually he dropped mega charge mega charger yeah mega charger sounds

00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:14.880
like it's gonna be like a separate kind of network i'm thinking of it kind of

00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:18.320
the same way you drive by a card lock gas station

00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:21.040
oh yeah yeah yeah that's for semis yeah it's gonna have to be like that i

00:39:19.680 --> 00:39:25.599
wouldn't be surprised if it was kind of its own thing so a typical diesel truck

00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:29.200
can go a thousand miles on a full tank do you know how long it takes to fill up

00:39:27.200 --> 00:39:33.680
that tank when you're sitting up i i think he said 15 minutes no no i'm

00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:38.560
talking like a like a normal diesel truck oh it'll take a while to fill that puppy up

00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:43.839
be nice i assume it would take a little while it's going to take longer to charge this truck but one of his points

00:39:42.640 --> 00:39:49.599
was that you don't have to stand there the whole time i guess um it is definitely going to take longer

00:39:47.680 --> 00:39:52.560
to charge it but i don't think there's going to be a bunch of truck drivers

00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:57.839
leaning against their truck while it sips electricity or gulps i guess

00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:04.240
electricity from it from the network uh we also talked about a guaranteed price

00:40:00.160 --> 00:40:05.599
for for semi-trucks uh at seven cents

00:40:04.240 --> 00:40:09.280
per what unit would that be kilowatt i don't

00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.880
remember exactly what they used is that also kilowatt

00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:16.960
uh that's not in the document either but he did okay he had a guaranteed price

00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:21.520
which is a big deal also also a big deal in terms of getting uh financial support

00:40:19.200 --> 00:40:26.320
for trucks one big question that i haven't i'm sure okay i haven't seen

00:40:24.640 --> 00:40:30.240
anyone ask it but i am absolutely certain someone has so

00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:34.480
and i haven't looked so that's kind of an issue that i haven't looked for it

00:40:31.839 --> 00:40:37.760
but a big problem is going to be weight they didn't talk about it on the stream

00:40:36.240 --> 00:40:41.680
there's a lot of weighing stations for trucks because roads can only support uh

00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:46.240
a certain amount of weight and the batteries are going to weigh a lot i did

00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:50.079
see this yeah i think i think naked it's it is going to be heavier than

00:40:48.640 --> 00:40:53.680
yeah than a naked normal diesel i think that's

00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:59.760
going to be a big issue there's weighing stations like all over the place

00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:04.800
they did not address that did you see the cockpit design

00:41:01.839 --> 00:41:08.800
yeah so it's 500 miles with 32.2 tons of cargo so at max capacity is that the

00:41:07.359 --> 00:41:12.640
heaviest class he a lot of the stats he gave out were

00:41:10.560 --> 00:41:15.520
for the heaviest class of truck like the speed and the uh the range and

00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.359
everything so the lack of engine might compensate for

00:41:18.640 --> 00:41:24.560
that yeah but like if you look at the model s

00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.280
it's actually a pretty heavy car because the battery and all that other

00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:31.680
stuff you have to do more than look at it you probably have to try to lift it

00:41:29.839 --> 00:41:37.200
apparently way stations are for trailer load and balance not total load oh

00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.720
okay we have some really we just got everyone all kinds in there now someone

00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:44.800
said way stations over total weight who knows i just it wasn't addressed in the

00:41:43.040 --> 00:41:49.200
stream and it made me worry a little bit but this will be huge another big thing

00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:53.119
that they brought up was convoy mode this isn't the first time we've seen

00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:58.160
convoy mode um i've been in a car that was doing convoy mode before uh i've

00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.160
been in a convoy

00:41:59.200 --> 00:42:05.680
but essentially the cost per miler per

00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:09.280
kilometer goes down drastically when you have these trucks in convoy mode i

00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:13.359
believe i don't think he went over it in exhaustive detail but i believe because

00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:17.520
they talk to each other and they can run really closely together drafting very

00:42:15.359 --> 00:42:21.760
efficiently okay so i didn't i didn't hear this from the stream last night but

00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:26.800
it was in the article i read today okay they said that in convo the reason

00:42:23.520 --> 00:42:29.280
convoy mode is so much cheaper in fact

00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:33.119
musk said it was cheaper than rail yes it was because but he didn't show the

00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:36.720
rail number you only need a driver in the front truck

00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:40.079
okay yes that's a thing is that they well they

00:42:38.640 --> 00:42:44.880
even showed it in the animation there was a person in the front truck there's no people in there okay once following

00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:48.480
it that was a very important note that's crazy

00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:54.000
but is that so did they bake in the cost of the driver definitely they must have

00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:59.920
otherwise that doesn't matter so but i mean in the in the initial

00:42:56.560 --> 00:43:01.599
tesla semi versus diesel semi comparison

00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:05.440
oh it cost the driver no no i don't think so because in the second number

00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:09.040
when he said in convoy mode he was comparing those against the other ones

00:43:07.359 --> 00:43:13.040
not against train and he said it was like 80 cents or something

00:43:11.200 --> 00:43:16.240
i would think that at that comparison i mean like it's a company they're gonna

00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:20.800
make their numbers look as good as they can i would assume that they'd be like

00:43:18.319 --> 00:43:23.680
yeah but it's like you know two-thirds cheaper because there's only

00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:26.720
one driver involved and that is that is a realistic

00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:32.400
consideration if you're well yeah um

00:43:29.520 --> 00:43:37.119
mostly i think i i wonder how they're going to accomplish this because convoy

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.920
mode makes sense for highways which is what they showed it on

00:43:38.720 --> 00:43:45.280
it's the second thing you get to us exactly you're not gonna be you're not gonna be able to convoy for the entire

00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:48.079
trip yeah you're gonna have to turn off what do you do for the rest of the

00:43:47.040 --> 00:43:54.400
drivers well they are getting their enhanced auto i i miss this maybe twitch chat

00:43:52.319 --> 00:43:56.960
knows what's going on enhanced autopilot's there definitely all of them

00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:01.760
yeah and uh if this is like one to two years out

00:43:59.359 --> 00:44:07.119
maybe it'll be even better by then then elon did not

00:44:04.560 --> 00:44:09.680
did not avoid talking about autopilot he brought it up directly in the stream

00:44:08.720 --> 00:44:14.480
he said that they would have all their most modern

00:44:12.720 --> 00:44:17.839
yeah that's true but he didn't say that he may not have what they're saying

00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:22.240
doesn't address our question of whether or not he said that about convoy mode oh

00:44:20.560 --> 00:44:27.839
elon did say that they're all gonna get enhanced autopilot for sure yeah

00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.880
well in in the video there isn't drivers in the in the trucks behind the first

00:44:29.520 --> 00:44:33.359
one okay i didn't notice that so yeah that's good

00:44:33.520 --> 00:44:39.680
yeah it's it's it's gonna be interesting um

00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:43.440
does it have air brakes i oh it has the uh he did talk about

00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:48.079
braking a bit because it's never after it has the regenerative braking so

00:44:46.160 --> 00:44:52.000
i was actually at a tesla dealership the other day and i was asking if with the

00:44:50.160 --> 00:44:55.839
regenerative braking can you can you coast just as well as you can because

00:44:54.240 --> 00:44:59.760
for me when i'm driving i actually coast quite a bit yeah

00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:02.720
and he told me as a person who's never driven a tesla he said actually you

00:45:01.040 --> 00:45:05.839
can't really coast where the crap when the regenerative breaks on it slows you

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:09.200
down like pretty fast yeah um but the upside of that is you like barely ever

00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:13.839
have you use your brain um which is what he said here he didn't

00:45:10.720 --> 00:45:16.000
say anything about about uh air brakes

00:45:13.839 --> 00:45:18.480
would that even work i don't i don't have a very good

00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:23.440
understanding of how semi trucks work

00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:27.200
but i don't think it would work anyways what about that roadster though

00:45:25.200 --> 00:45:30.480
the roadster yeah i guess we can move on at the end of the whole semi truck thing

00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:36.319
it was kind of like a one more thing moment yeah and they popped open the

00:45:32.560 --> 00:45:38.240
hatch and a new tesla roadster

00:45:36.319 --> 00:45:43.440
drove out of the back of the trailer that the semi truck was towing can do

00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:46.720
0-60 in 1.9 seconds it can do zero to

00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:48.160
100 and i believe 4.9 i don't see that

00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:52.880
on here i didn't see that but i actually i do have a list of um

00:45:50.720 --> 00:45:56.480
linked a wikipedia of the fastest zero second speeds and i was like oh i wonder

00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:00.960
if they like killed some records from other like super expensive cars um well

00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:08.480
they kind of just beat their own record yeah yeah yeah just awesome uh it it can go

00:46:05.359 --> 00:46:10.160
620 miles or a thousand kilometers on a

00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:13.760
single charge he was happy because they broke the thousand kilometer ceiling

00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:18.720
which is pretty cool and it seats four productions yeah it's a two plus two

00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:20.599
production starts in 2020 the first 1000

00:46:18.720 --> 00:46:28.480
cars will cost 250 grand each paid in full up front

00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:31.440
with later cars starting at 200 grand so presumably the the first thousand

00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:38.079
they're they're going to sell they're going to be the true ones yeah yeah which makes a lot of sense

00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.800
uh i love this quote elon said

00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:43.280
uh his stuttering is removed from this quote

00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:47.280
come on come on he said the point of doing this

00:46:45.040 --> 00:46:51.839
is just to give a hardcore smackdown to gasoline cars driving a gasoline sports

00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:56.480
car is gonna feel like a steam engine with a side of quiche

00:46:54.160 --> 00:47:02.079
that's wicked that was pretty funny um we'll just take the voice crack out

00:46:58.640 --> 00:47:03.040
of when people quote yours um

00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:07.599
harsh okay i deserve some harshness i love you on i was yeah i was just kidding he

00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:12.800
speaks that way because he uses particular language he's very careful

00:47:09.839 --> 00:47:17.119
about his words um anyways moving on to someone in the chat guessed it

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sweatpants that you will ever wear hmm

00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:18.160
wow what a claim even if you're not a nudist and you do wear other stuff yeah

00:49:16.240 --> 00:49:21.119
this will still be better yeah they want you to be comfortable so if you don't

00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:24.800
like your first pair you can keep it and they will still refund you no questions

00:49:22.640 --> 00:49:29.520
asked which is pretty major for a claim to be made from a company you can try it

00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:32.079
out no big deal it's which is probably fair because you probably don't want to

00:49:30.640 --> 00:49:36.319
send your underwear back because that would sort of be weird go to

00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:42.240
macweldon.com get 20 off using promo code tech tips and get

00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.240
some clothing today

00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:48.880
moving on zotac giveaway i'm gonna get you to

00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:52.480
vanna white this box there you go

00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:55.200
our holiday giveaway with zotac is still happening we announced this on the lan

00:49:53.839 --> 00:50:00.559
show a little bit ago just in case you didn't know they're giving away three

00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:02.680
different models of their zbox mini pcs

00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:07.839
one of them is the pi225 it is a desktop performance and

00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:13.520
mobile flexibility crammed into a pc the size of a 2.5 inch SSD it is tiny this

00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:16.800
thing is absolutely miniature really cool there's a computer in this box in

00:50:15.359 --> 00:50:23.280
that one yes that is not the tiny one that i'm talking about that's more like gaming

00:50:19.839 --> 00:50:25.599
focus vr ready sticker gaming ready

00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:30.240
vr ready computer in this box yes sir yes laser

00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:33.839
jams ladies and james i i'm gonna say laser james my bad

00:50:32.319 --> 00:50:38.400
ladies and james there is a computer in this box um it has a whole bunch of great

00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:43.760
features which is absolutely fantastic moving on we have the mi-553 great for

00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:49.680
multi-purpose utility kind of setups and then we have the z-box i believe it's

00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:51.760
this one yes en 1070k dash u how is it

00:50:49.680 --> 00:50:55.760
that this is more ba than consoles

00:50:53.520 --> 00:50:59.280
and smaller oh owned get it together console owned

00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:06.160
there's a core i5 7 7 500 t it has an NVIDIA gtx 1060 or gtx

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:12.720
1070 and turns depending on which configuration you select it's it's yeah

00:51:09.359 --> 00:51:14.640
it's great uh the zbox giveaway is that

00:51:12.720 --> 00:51:18.160
a little bit of a funky link uh oh i didn't click on the right thing

00:51:16.160 --> 00:51:24.960
here we go the zbox giveaway is a little bit of a funky link which i will

00:51:21.200 --> 00:51:26.800
try to post in the twitch chat right now

00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:30.559
oh is this going to be why i get an xbox when you can have it is going to be a

00:51:28.319 --> 00:51:34.800
problem a zed box if you want to enter the giveaway check

00:51:32.319 --> 00:51:38.800
out uh gleam.io wow

00:51:36.359 --> 00:51:43.599
msfdx slash zotac zbox dash mini dash pc dash

00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:46.559
giveaway and you can enter there or check out on youtube it will be in the

00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:51.599
description below it is just that it'll be hopefully

00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:53.520
that'll be a lot easier to grab there um

00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:57.440
oh my god let me see if i can just get into the twitch chat here

00:51:55.520 --> 00:52:01.359
there's all sorts of stuff in here tons of things it's even smaller than the box

00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:04.960
that's in it's like a computer i would hope

00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:09.280
that would be good okay this is gonna work all right link coming hold on

00:52:09.839 --> 00:52:16.000
that's really yellow boom boom boom

00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:20.880
boom there you go boo yeah twitch chat you have the link

00:52:18.240 --> 00:52:25.119
now i can't close this anymore it's in the chat we're just gonna put

00:52:22.319 --> 00:52:27.920
this down you guys are good uh moving on yes here i'll take it thank

00:52:27.040 --> 00:52:33.359
you thank you you did a great job with your vanna

00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:38.880
waiting i appreciate it moving on

00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:41.040
you were a verb yeah she's the verb now

00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:45.440
man i just i just wanted laser james right now yeah i was laser dreaming last

00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:50.400
night anyways back to uh

00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:54.880
basically sponsor spots flow plane bunch of cool stuff we have a tech wiki on how

00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:57.920
stealth technology works which is sick i actually gotta i'm gonna

00:52:56.640 --> 00:53:04.400
watch that one that's actually pretty cool um we have a video on the oneplus

00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:08.880
5t we have a hands-on for that which is pretty neat we have a video that i

00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:14.880
hosted whoa what that's weird it's the xbox one x versus ps4 pro versus 500 pc

00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:19.680
results may surprise you i gotta watch that one too it's interesting it's um

00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:24.000
everyone's response to it is exactly what i expected nice yeah everyone who's

00:53:22.240 --> 00:53:28.160
on float planes everyone's on floor plan youtube peasants it will be coming to

00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:32.480
youtube later but it's on flow plane now yeah and it's friday so what are you going to do all weekend

00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:36.800
you don't have stuff to do unless you're unless you're a float

00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:41.440
planer or coming to my charity stream oh yeah true and are a Floatplane i got so

00:53:39.040 --> 00:53:44.559
much stuff what a double combo tech wiki on powerline Ethernet which is actually

00:53:43.200 --> 00:53:49.359
super interesting powerline Ethernet is weird it's internet that goes through your power lines sort of makes sense i

00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:53.359
don't even know what that is let alone how it works it's pretty neato the

00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:57.920
opportunities for education are immense it's amazing tons of really cool videos

00:53:55.839 --> 00:54:00.880
razer blade 4k review i don't think that's on youtube yet and that has

00:53:59.359 --> 00:54:06.079
probably one of the best skits in a video we've like ever done oh is that

00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:09.680
the uh yeah the one the with me when i'm in this coat

00:54:07.839 --> 00:54:13.200
no that was a phone i don't think it's not all right

00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:15.440
are you ready we got lots of good skits i'm not in it

00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:20.559
oh yeah can't be the best kid no

00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:22.800
the best skit would have us both yeah yeah

00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:33.280
i love how every once in a while my the words just come out

00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:37.599
everyone knows all right firefox that topic might as well move on to it yeah

00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:41.520
you should open up the source number two because we can check it out on the

00:54:39.359 --> 00:54:45.520
screen and there's lots to see i need to find it

00:54:43.359 --> 00:54:49.440
here we go got it the firefox hardware survey which uses telemetry supplied by

00:54:47.680 --> 00:54:54.559
the browser to assess what hardware participants are using has revealed some

00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:57.760
surprising statistics related to GPU market share

00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:01.599
yeah so we can not see right here because this is in the way but i'm just

00:54:59.040 --> 00:55:07.760
going to move us turns out more people maybe

00:55:03.520 --> 00:55:10.640
for graphics we've got AMD at 15 percent

00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:13.280
we've got Intel at 65 so that's the built-in graphics on your CPU that

00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:18.839
they're talking about integrated graphics NVIDIA 14 that's one percent

00:55:16.720 --> 00:55:23.760
behind AMD what the heck what a surprise i mean this isn't just

00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:27.920
people in the world this is firefox users yeah who filled

00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:31.760
out the survey oh wait did anyone actively fill this

00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:35.520
out is it just firefox hardware report i think you have you have to like opt in

00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:39.599
to supply your data or whatever right so it's possible there's a selection

00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:43.839
bias where AMD people are just the type of people who opt into this stuff

00:55:41.839 --> 00:55:47.040
doesn't seem likely to me i don't think that's necessarily what's going on i

00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:51.599
have i have i have i have a main theory for this

00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:55.760
firefox right now is the like this is the ethical choice

00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.680
of browsers this is the underdog browser

00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:04.079
this is the browser that not the mainstream uses oh and those are the

00:56:01.839 --> 00:56:09.359
same people you can rebel and buy this browser or use this browser i see

00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:14.160
it's similar arguments to don't use the big mainstream scary guy thing that a

00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:18.319
lot of the AMD guys are making and i think it might make sense that there are

00:56:15.520 --> 00:56:21.760
more of them on this platform regardless even if that is true this is still super

00:56:20.799 --> 00:56:26.400
cool definitely this is good people for some

00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:31.119
reason are comparing this to uses or stats that we had from steam's

00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:37.359
hardware survey tpcs is coming in with the sassy luke where have you been

00:56:35.200 --> 00:56:40.480
this has been the case with firefox for years

00:56:38.720 --> 00:56:45.920
so yeah apparently that might actually be more true of a statement than i mean so

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:49.119
he's backing up your theory yeah i guess indirectly he doesn't know

00:56:48.160 --> 00:56:55.119
yeah no one no one actually knows yes that's true yeah i don't think

00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:58.880
anyone actually really knows but i wouldn't be surprised if that is at

00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:03.119
least part of it for some reason people are saying that this is like super at

00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:06.240
odds with the steam hardware survey the latest iteration of which came out in

00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:11.200
october yeah where the GPU market share for NVIDIA was over

00:57:08.319 --> 00:57:14.799
80 and AMD was only 10 and Intel integrated graphics is only like seven

00:57:12.799 --> 00:57:19.200
and a half it's pretty obvious why these numbers are so vastly different yeah

00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:23.200
selection bias being you're someone who has steam installed so you're a gamer so

00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:28.160
you're less likely to have integrated graphics and if you're gonna have a

00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:30.240
gaming type of GPU it's

00:57:28.160 --> 00:57:34.160
likely gonna be NVIDIA surprise surprise most people on the internet don't have a

00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:39.839
gaming pc i'm probably using laptops even that

00:57:36.720 --> 00:57:41.280
just don't have any form of uh dedicated

00:57:39.839 --> 00:57:46.079
graphics and it's all integrated on chips and you can't even add one or

00:57:43.040 --> 00:57:47.520
they're using older like best buy pcs

00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.799
that were just like home pcs that don't have graphics cards even though it's

00:57:49.200 --> 00:57:54.640
like obviously a weird comparison to make i can see why

00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:59.040
it's being made because those steam hardware stats get excited a lot

00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:02.799
particularly in displays like the fact that uh

00:58:00.799 --> 00:58:06.559
only four percent of steam players have 4k monitors like that stack gets thrown

00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:12.400
around all the time when people are talking about how prevalent 4k monitors really are yeah

00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:15.599
so okay it's steam stats are popular but yeah

00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:19.839
they just really don't have any relevance here yeah it doesn't matter

00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:22.319
for this specific use case and there's a lot of

00:58:20.799 --> 00:58:28.319
cheaper laptops i don't know if necessarily right now but at least when i worked in retail that sold with AMD

00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:32.640
graphics so it was i actually probably sold more

00:58:31.200 --> 00:58:37.280
laptops at that point in time that had AMD graphics because it was more

00:58:34.839 --> 00:58:41.280
affordable um so more people were buying them from my store um

00:58:39.839 --> 00:58:45.200
oh i didn't own the store but the store that i worked at can we can we see that

00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:49.520
page again yeah it had more than just gpus on there yeah that was an

00:58:47.200 --> 00:58:52.720
interesting part too so it has quite a few different things it even has

00:58:51.200 --> 00:58:57.760
operating system which i find fascinating Windows 7 was at 46 percent

00:58:55.280 --> 00:59:01.200
which is wow absolutely pretty crazy Windows 10 is only fine that gives

00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:05.040
credence to your theory then this is a certain like the certain type of person

00:59:02.799 --> 00:59:10.160
you use uses fire people that in Windows we resisted upgrading to Windows 10.

00:59:07.040 --> 00:59:11.839
that's crazy i love Windows 7.

00:59:10.160 --> 00:59:15.920
i stayed on Windows 7 for a long time but the only reason why i moved off of

00:59:13.520 --> 00:59:19.760
it was because of the constant super aggressive annoying pressure from

00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:24.400
Windows 10 so i moved to a Windows 8.1 embedded copy so you goofy

00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:28.799
i'm still on 98 and sick nice yeah solitaire all day that's pretty legit

00:59:26.640 --> 00:59:33.280
that's pretty cool all day after that we've got one percent of users on

00:59:31.040 --> 00:59:37.200
Windows xp guys come on

00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:41.440
the update what are you doing

00:59:39.359 --> 00:59:46.160
oh those are just working eight percent of people on Windows 8.1 represent

00:59:44.240 --> 00:59:50.720
that's me you think there's a sliver for vista in there

00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:55.200
macOS five percent other six percent there's your there's your vista

00:59:52.720 --> 00:59:58.960
yeah there's a few people on vista speaking of firefox users these these

00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:03.359
people are gonna be pretty pumped because firefox quantum is out now have

01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:07.440
you used this yet i have used it i'm actually loving it really yeah i was

01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:11.040
thinking about taking it for a spin it's good

01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:16.079
yeah i've i've so i've seen people

01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:17.520
having issues i have not personally had

01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:20.880
any issues okay i know there's some things where people

01:00:19.200 --> 01:00:24.720
like certain specific add-ons that aren't quite on quantum yet uh some

01:00:23.200 --> 01:00:28.000
people don't like how certain parts of the browser aren't

01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:32.079
customizable but let's talk about the core value

01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:37.200
proposition of this browser according to mozilla firefox quantum is

01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:41.119
over twice as fast as the firefox from just six months ago

01:00:38.799 --> 01:00:46.000
built on a completely overhauled core engine and boasting a stylish new design

01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:49.440
dub photon ui which streamlines a number of elements included in previous

01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:52.319
releases so i'm not gonna lie

01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:56.960
this marketing kicked a lot of people off and for

01:00:54.880 --> 01:01:03.520
reasons that i understand do they show it here

01:01:00.799 --> 01:01:08.799
somewhere they showed like two times faster and then they show a comparison

01:01:06.240 --> 01:01:12.240
of firefox quantum versus the most recent version of chrome

01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:16.480
so people don't realize that they were talking about a previous version of

01:01:14.640 --> 01:01:20.000
firefox uh okay

01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:23.440
because they show two times faster in big bold text

01:01:21.359 --> 01:01:26.640
and then directly beside it a comparison of quantum versus chrome right when

01:01:25.040 --> 01:01:31.520
they're meaning two times faster than the previous version their own product

01:01:29.040 --> 01:01:35.359
they do say quantum is faster to load a number of popular websites

01:01:33.680 --> 01:01:40.960
than chrome is yeah uh including wikipedia bing no one cares

01:01:38.240 --> 01:01:45.440
tumblr and shutterstock no one cares

01:01:42.160 --> 01:01:48.880
firefox uses around 30 less memory than

01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:51.040
chrome edge and safari on Windows

01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:55.040
so there's there's some things going on here one thing that i did appreciate is

01:01:52.720 --> 01:01:59.359
that in their own testing in their own video showing load time comparisons

01:01:56.720 --> 01:02:01.920
between quantum and chrome um

01:02:00.720 --> 01:02:06.799
it shows quantum winning quite often not by two

01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:10.880
times and someone in the chat says in fairness in the comparison video it

01:02:08.799 --> 01:02:15.280
shows fairly equivalent speeds if i remember correctly quantum wins

01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:20.559
usually and i'm sure they cherry picked sites to a certain degree um but i know

01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:23.599
at least one point in time the chrome browser did beat the quantum in their

01:02:22.240 --> 01:02:29.200
own video and they included it in their own video that's cool i thought that was pretty cool so it was a weird like

01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:33.119
we're going to show ourselves losing and at the same time we're going to do

01:02:30.640 --> 01:02:37.760
super misleading marketing it was like

01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:42.319
what uh so like if anyone actually watched the video at all they would have

01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:47.760
known something was up but yeah it's been a delight to use it so far i think

01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:49.760
it looks great um it's run great for me

01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:53.040
Floatplane runs on it beautifully just want to put that out

01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:59.200
there lioness tech tapes writer Anthony young chimed in virtually saying firefox users

01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:04.640
may also be more likely to be running apus

01:03:02.160 --> 01:03:08.319
yeah so if we want to jump back slightly to that topic

01:03:06.240 --> 01:03:12.319
this was six minutes ago that he sent me that

01:03:10.319 --> 01:03:16.319
we can look at the processor section which is shown to you guys good Intel is

01:03:14.240 --> 01:03:19.680
at 88 AMD is at 12

01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:24.960
i don't know what the steam hardware survey for that is but i wouldn't be surprised if on the steam hardware

01:03:22.319 --> 01:03:28.559
server until was even higher you think

01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:32.400
yeah there were so many years where AMD wasn't putting out a new yeah right yeah

01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:36.480
so i don't know but i wouldn't be surprised but it's it's not like AMD is

01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:40.319
crushing the processor side of things back to the quantum thing i

01:03:38.799 --> 01:03:45.280
i was like i should actually just check this out because i used to use firefox

01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:48.960
like forever until chrome came out in 2008 i just wanted to check it out and i

01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:52.640
liked the design i haven't used firefox since i was like i should go back to my

01:03:50.640 --> 01:03:55.599
roots here but then i had the thought well it'll be like two weeks until

01:03:54.400 --> 01:04:00.480
chrome is better again they'll make a new they'll just make a new version it'll be better i like using firefox and

01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:03.520
it is very fast it's it's fast to the point

01:04:02.640 --> 01:04:08.880
where when using the previous they said six months ago two times faster six months

01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:11.359
ago it was notably slower um

01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:15.440
and now it's not notably slower it's fast enough that

01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:18.400
i click on a site and it just loads but here's something that made me reconsider

01:04:16.640 --> 01:04:22.640
i saw a quote from i'm not sure if it was a ceo but

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:27.119
someone at mozilla who is like my biggest fear is that people just

01:04:24.319 --> 01:04:29.039
won't try it i just want people to try it

01:04:27.839 --> 01:04:34.160
and i read that and i was kind of talking about heart strings bit i was like you know what man

01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:38.079
for you i'll try it i didn't yet

01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:41.760
but wow i think i want to i'm gonna check it out i don't know if people

01:04:39.520 --> 01:04:46.079
remember but in a lot of my older videos i used to wear i have a couple

01:04:44.640 --> 01:04:51.839
two different shirts one of them just has the firefox logo on it and another one says

01:04:49.839 --> 01:04:56.400
i am protecting the world's largest resource

01:04:53.200 --> 01:04:59.200
and on the back it talks about firefox

01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:02.240
i kind of support them a little bit um i even have a little firefox plushy thing

01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:08.400
because i used to be like when i actually programmed things i used

01:05:04.319 --> 01:05:10.240
to be a big fan of um firefox and

01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:13.520
i stopped using it because it was directly interfering with my day-to-day

01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:19.680
work because firefox was crashing so often or

01:05:16.640 --> 01:05:21.200
was slow and all these other issues and

01:05:19.680 --> 01:05:25.680
i excitedly but

01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:29.119
with a lot of fear installed quantum because i was like i really don't want

01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:33.520
this to fail me again they are making a lot of strong claims i'm gonna give it a

01:05:31.359 --> 01:05:36.960
shot and i gave it a strong shot i installed all my different add-ons i

01:05:35.359 --> 01:05:40.400
customized it made it look exactly the way i wanted it to and now and then dove

01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:46.079
deeply in i have it on my work computer i have it on my home computer now you're fully entangled it's on my phone

01:05:44.319 --> 01:05:48.839
it's great you get it it's been awesome anybody get that joke it was a quantum

01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:53.599
joke oh that is good that is good

01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:58.400
speaking of i really hope that in the near future these companies stop using q

01:05:56.720 --> 01:06:03.119
or quantum in their branding because there's going to come a point where there are actual products with actual

01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:07.760
quantum capabilities and we need to be able to differentiate that yes

01:06:05.520 --> 01:06:10.640
that is actually i know what i mean i immediately thought about that when i

01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:14.720
saw the name i was like is it actually oh did they yeah we're getting on the cusp

01:06:13.200 --> 01:06:19.039
in what way well i was actually i thought it might be like some super

01:06:16.640 --> 01:06:22.480
wacko experimental thing that they were working on and then i was like oh it's

01:06:20.720 --> 01:06:27.200
just their new browser what that actually was a little bit confusing so

01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:28.720
yeah i hear you on that one but

01:06:27.200 --> 01:06:32.720
yeah i don't know i think it's cool having a browser that actually

01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:36.400
isn't made by a company that aggressively profits off of harvesting

01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:39.680
every single thing that you do in your entire life

01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:44.640
that's weird you know like i i don't know kind of down with

01:06:42.640 --> 01:06:47.760
the firefox a little bit ah so we've been doing this for long enough but you

01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:51.200
want to do a couple more i mean i'm down we have been doing this

01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:55.200
long enough what do you want to do ah there's so many exciting ones okay

01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:59.839
there's some rapid-fire ones okay apple home pod the big speaker it's kind of a

01:06:58.319 --> 01:07:06.000
smart speaker from apple delayed missing out on the holiday

01:07:03.520 --> 01:07:09.680
season this brings joy to my heart actually um

01:07:07.520 --> 01:07:12.960
i'm actually kind of a anti-fanboy with apple i do respect

01:07:11.680 --> 01:07:17.760
apple and i think a lot of products are pretty objectively sick

01:07:15.359 --> 01:07:20.640
like they're sweet but on the other hand sometimes i like a little win i like

01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:26.880
when because it's not that i don't like apples

01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:29.599
it's like a satisf satisfying stab

01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:34.559
yeah i i don't like apple fanboys so i'm like a counterforce to that um

01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:39.440
so stop they're getting out of here you're talking about the ad not me right

01:07:36.160 --> 01:07:40.880
yes okay great so

01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:45.599
full disclosure homepod is not

01:07:42.799 --> 01:07:49.200
is a small part of of apple's revenue it's in the other services or in the

01:07:47.680 --> 01:07:52.160
other section why do you hate apple so much i don't hate apple i hate apple

01:07:50.720 --> 01:07:58.400
fanboys apple's pretty dope do you hate

01:07:54.240 --> 01:08:01.280
Android fanboys i hate all fanboys okay

01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:05.680
i like objective people okay but so you want apple to hurt because you dislike

01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:08.839
the people that like apple no i don't want apple to hurt i want apple fanboys

01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:12.799
to hurt ah so you're hoping this doesn't

01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:16.719
really hurt their bottom line it won't but you're also like

01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:21.120
you don't get your thing for christmas yeah it won't hurt their bottom line because this is one of their other

01:08:19.120 --> 01:08:25.839
products um and they get like the majority of their revenue from the iphones and their services so that's

01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:28.319
going to be minuscule anyway but it actually could hurt them in the future

01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:33.279
because right now these smart home smart

01:08:30.799 --> 01:08:36.719
speakers and and home implementations are really starting to

01:08:34.799 --> 01:08:41.359
gain traction especially since google home mini is out now there's a bazillion

01:08:38.480 --> 01:08:45.600
different types of amazon echoes um i think they're going to be a pretty

01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:48.480
significant gift this holiday season and i got one for apple to miss that it's

01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:53.920
going to be that hurts and it's it's hitting mainstream and i'm saying my grandfather

01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:59.440
and my mom have one and that's not like that's not

01:08:57.440 --> 01:09:04.400
like me forcing it on them be like use this to support your son or grandson

01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:08.319
this is like i got one from my grandpa i believe he got one from my mom

01:09:06.480 --> 01:09:11.839
and they both like actively use it all the time well everyone has everyone has

01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:18.560
everything these days like what are you gonna get someone for christmas with so this is totally a thing yeah except the

01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:20.560
homepod won't be and notably

01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:26.159
google's answer to the homepod which is the google home max

01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:28.719
looks very similar has similar sound like speaker

01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:34.759
focusing capabilities it will be on sale this

01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:34.759
holiday season oh

01:09:35.120 --> 01:09:41.520
and this is just so bad uh for apple because even though siri is the oldest

01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:46.000
virtual assistant it's assistant it is quite clearly the worst and they just

01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:50.159
need any opportunity it's worse than cortana

01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:54.000
hmm are you only classifying the two i was honest no i was thinking of bixby as

01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:57.760
well bixby's actually pretty dope really uh

01:09:56.480 --> 01:10:02.480
it's probably as a general assistant it's probably on the level of siri but it has these extra

01:10:01.040 --> 01:10:07.679
capabilities that we use in our showcase video that um you

01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:10.640
let you navigate through apps like open this app and go to settings and then

01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:14.000
change this setting go to my home screen swipe right you can't even do that with

01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:17.520
the assistant yet and i can't wait until you can because it's super sweet to be

01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:20.960
able to do that um cortana i don't know i've actually seen

01:10:19.120 --> 01:10:26.000
videos on youtube of people using cortana to do these like kick-ass things

01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:27.920
in excel which i would i'd love to

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:31.920
to program macros by voice like using cortana i just like have can't be

01:10:30.080 --> 01:10:35.520
bothered because it seems like such a upfront cost

01:10:33.440 --> 01:10:40.239
but anyway apple needs any opportunity they can get to try to catch up in this

01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:41.679
space and they're just not getting it

01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:47.120
and eventually i think it's going to be the end i don't think i've ever heard anyone say anything positive about

01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:51.120
cortana although that excel thing does sound cool but i haven't had it work in

01:10:49.280 --> 01:10:56.719
any form in any other way so there's that um or bixby i haven't personally

01:10:54.239 --> 01:11:01.280
used bixby but that dedicated button is rough

01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:06.960
uh well i mean i didn't say it's perfect i'm just saying like like sirius is

01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:10.480
pretty weak yes yeah uh watching Linus

01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:12.560
try to use siri to call someone while we

01:11:10.480 --> 01:11:16.880
were driving for lunch was hilarious oh no it just it just couldn't

01:11:15.120 --> 01:11:20.239
it just couldn't do it like it was actually hilariously bad

01:11:18.719 --> 01:11:23.280
well the google assistant's not perfect either i'm actually no i'm disappointed

01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:28.159
you know what bixby can do that assistant uh doesn't seem to be able to do is chain commands like on bixby i can

01:11:27.440 --> 01:11:35.199
say um siri can't do that because google assistant can google my my google home

01:11:33.360 --> 01:11:39.520
even though i can say the command and say turn on my tv and i

01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:45.760
can tell it to play a certain video on youtube i can't say turn on the tv and play the

01:11:43.040 --> 01:11:51.199
latest vsauce video on youtube it'll say i don't know how to do that but if i say

01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:55.760
uh there was one i did yesterday where because we can't do that either

01:11:53.360 --> 01:12:01.920
well but bixby can change commands it can do things like um

01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:05.440
go to instagram and post my third

01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:06.960
latest photo with the caption blah blah

01:12:05.440 --> 01:12:11.840
okay is that one long command yeah you can

01:12:09.120 --> 01:12:16.159
say go to the settings and open and go to display settings and change the

01:12:13.440 --> 01:12:20.480
screen timeout to 10 minutes yeah okay which is cool

01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:24.640
but there was a command i issued yesterday to my google assistant that i

01:12:22.719 --> 01:12:28.320
it was two commands and i put them this way and it said i don't know how to do

01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:30.800
that and then i rephrased it the same commands in a different order and then

01:12:29.440 --> 01:12:35.520
it did it like i wonder if that's part of it because i use uh google assistant

01:12:33.440 --> 01:12:39.679
for everything and i i play specific songs

01:12:37.360 --> 01:12:42.719
with it within like it has to open an app and then find the specific song and

01:12:41.360 --> 01:12:46.080
whatnot all the time which is two different steps um uh well

01:12:45.280 --> 01:12:52.800
open music and play whatever that's actually one because you can't say

01:12:50.960 --> 01:13:00.560
open google play music yeah i believe you can i know that i can't say hey open youtube

01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:04.080
on google home i can't say open youtube on the tv i have to say open youtube and

01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:07.920
play Linus tech tips on the tv yeah but then i don't personally this is what we

01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:12.239
should probably move on but i don't personally think that's a huge point because bigsby isn't in a home device is

01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:19.199
it uh not that i know of yeah so i don't know i don't know um anyways

01:13:17.120 --> 01:13:23.040
uh amazon echo is coming to canada alliance will be so stoked we can

01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:28.880
finally start reviewing them and stuff yes do you know that story no we got an

01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:30.560
echo oh he tried when i tried dude i

01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:34.080
tried on the fire tv i brought it home on a weekend and stuff and i was like

01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:37.600
the interface like this is worked yeah i was on i did tech support calls and all

01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:41.520
this junk and it's like yeah you're just not supposed to be using that yeah

01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:44.239
because like yeah and you can like with mine it was like you can't use it at all

01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:47.440
i wouldn't even allow itself to set up so i like vpn to my router so when it

01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:50.320
connected to the wi-fi i thought it was in america and i was like okay cool okay

01:13:49.280 --> 01:13:54.640
and then yeah yeah oh hi hi Linus says hi they're

01:13:53.360 --> 01:13:59.520
going to be all salty that you're not here now they're salty well they're going well

01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:04.080
now they know that i'm on the lan show even though you're in the building

01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:08.320
what does it mean lions is quitting video um someone on

01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:12.960
the chat said Linus is fired he's just gonna drive his multiple tesla roadsters

01:14:11.040 --> 01:14:16.320
from now on that he drives around in his tesla semi truck

01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:19.920
um what were we talking about

01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:24.000
we're talking about amazon right yeah so so we got one for review i

01:14:22.400 --> 01:14:28.320
had to vp of my router to even to freaking make the thing work at all and

01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:31.840
then it couldn't do almost anything because i mean canada and it doesn't

01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:35.280
know any of the stuff for up here and i was just like oh okay and then we sent

01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:40.719
it to a person i'm not gonna say who who is in

01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:46.159
america to do a review on it and like write the the the notes for the review

01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:50.400
for us and then we never heard from them again and now it's gone um

01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:56.520
well it's here now and apparently it's gonna speak canadian english with a canadian english

01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:56.520
accent

01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:02.159
so eastern then no i don't

01:15:00.320 --> 01:15:05.920
i it's gonna say a boot like i don't know what's the difference

01:15:04.320 --> 01:15:09.840
what's it gonna say yeah i'll open that a it's gonna say sorry instead of sorry

01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:12.960
sorry all right it's not going to say like i don't know

01:15:11.280 --> 01:15:17.520
what that is weird i guess someone someone in the chat said zed

01:15:15.280 --> 01:15:21.440
that makes sense yeah yeah yeah it's mostly it's mostly that we pronounce o's

01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:26.000
like o's and they pronounce o it's like a is a lot like i'm sorry and uh what's

01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:29.840
another one i've been noticing sorry yeah yeah but anyway uh it won't speak

01:15:28.480 --> 01:15:33.760
french yet i don't care

01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:38.480
neither do i because i don't speak french people in the apparently 20 of

01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:42.159
our population does yeah yeah well

01:15:40.320 --> 01:15:45.600
like as their main language it'll be coming from more than i bet you more

01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:49.600
than 25 percent of our population can speak french i bet you 20 20 percent of

01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:54.239
our population speaks french as their main language no it's less than that actually really i

01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:59.360
didn't put it in the in the notes but i read it earlier but uh this isn't actually the first

01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:03.440
country i thought we would be maybe the second country that echo was in but

01:16:01.280 --> 01:16:08.000
we're not they went to india a month ago and japan last week and presumably it's

01:16:05.360 --> 01:16:11.520
not english in india and japan yeah so get on it french

01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:15.840
come on there's gonna be some deals too the echo is gonna be

01:16:13.400 --> 01:16:21.199
99.99 canadian pesos instead of a regular 130. the echo dot is going to be

01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:28.000
50 bucks instead of 70 and the echo plus is going to be 170 instead of 200.

01:16:25.040 --> 01:16:32.880
daria b that's what it's going to say you issued a command it's going to

01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:37.520
execute the command and say dare you be there bye if you like if you if you tell

01:16:35.440 --> 01:16:42.239
it like i'm gonna go hike mount everest it'll be like good luck big shoots

01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:45.679
i've never even heard that one really okay um

01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:49.679
anyways why is over

01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:54.080
yeah that's it bye if you want to see a cool charity

01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:58.320
stream tune in tomorrow i'll probably start at noon

01:16:55.679 --> 01:17:02.000
um are you going to be laser looking no try it i will try it but i'm not going

01:17:00.080 --> 01:17:05.600
to do it man it's crazy how much it changes

01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:08.560
everything everything's super blue yeah that's cool hey yeah

01:17:08.719 --> 01:17:14.080
we should actually submit this rant show to an editor so when you put these on at

01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:17.120
the very end it like does a crazy effect just it's super interesting for the

01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:21.199
people that made it to the end now all these people are saying laser luke anyways come by check out the charity

01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:27.199
stream if you want it's going to be awesome i don't know what the heck Jake is trying to say but it's fine i think

01:17:25.040 --> 01:17:30.239
he called me an a-hole he's irrelevant uh oh

01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:34.719
it's okay oh that's the most harsh thing an influencer could say to you well i

01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:38.080
was dropping a reference back to the idubbbz ricegum kind of deal i don't

01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:43.600
know what that is i'm going home wow anyways bye thanks

01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:47.760
for watching bye-bye charity stream twitch.tv slash luke underscore lafr

01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:52.880
show up donate money to kids or just watch actually do it it's gonna be lots

01:17:49.280 --> 01:17:54.560
of cool games retro stuff yeah boom

01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:59.480
it works where'd you write on that napkin that

01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:59.480
you crumbled up

01:17:59.679 --> 01:18:09.149
ah we're not announcing on this show

01:18:09.440 --> 01:18:17.360
looks at you and makes you puke apparently i'm also supposed to say

01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:19.360
discord dot gg slash LTT

01:18:17.360 --> 01:18:22.719
yeah it hasn't ended yet we're just doing the

01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:27.480
thank you to ifixit and thank you to mack weldon and thank you to zotac

01:18:28.080 --> 01:18:35.040
so yeah i guess check out that discord we actually have an official discord now

01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:38.719
so check it out if you link your forum account you get access right away

01:18:37.120 --> 01:18:42.960
if you don't i think you have to wait 24 hours or something so link your form

01:18:40.480 --> 01:18:49.159
account heck yeah sounds good and use it use the laser jmote

01:18:45.440 --> 01:18:49.159
is that a thing yeah