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after months of performance hiccups several blue screens and us literally

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being able to bring down the entire core of our operation

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just by ingesting video footage to our storage server i'm finally ready for a

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change admittedly maybe

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running new new wanik our main video editing server on Windows

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was a mistake i had my reasons some of

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which were valid but it's clear at this point that you guys were right the

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advantages of running Windows are far outweighed by the problems that we've

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encountered so it is finally the day so many of you have been waiting for when

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we remove the last Windows machine from our server room

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it linked down below

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this should be easy i've got my Linux install usb right here all we got to do

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is slap it into wanik's server and boom we're off to the races right

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you see the thing is unlike most of our videos where the hardware is just going

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to get torn down immediately afterward wanik server is our one and only

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production network editing server we can't just shut it down format it and

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reinstall anytime we want because a we wouldn't have anything to store our

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videos on or or edit off of and b we

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would lose all of the work we've done on our active projects that means we either

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have to do this whole process on a weekend or we have to migrate at least

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temporarily to a different server as you

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can see it is not the weekend so the plan is to use my home nas machine as a

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test bed and then eventually migrate what we've done over to new new wanick

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one three new pneumonic my intention is for this to eventually end up at my

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house but that may not end up happening for a number of reasons not the least of

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which is that Jake has become very enamored with the kind of performance

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that we get out of these gen four keoxia NVMe drives he and i are gonna have to

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fight that out a little bit later in the meantime

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let's uh let's build up a server shall we actually that's a bit of a lie this

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server is already built so what we need to do is we need to

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upgrade it we'll start by taking out this epic 7402

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i got it 24 cores is plenty for what i'll be doing at home but as we learned

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the hard way you basically can't have enough CPU performance if you

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want to get the most out of these gen 4 NVMe drives oh and if another 8 cores

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doesn't end up alleviating the bottlenecks we've found we've got a 7742

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64 core that we can play around with later

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another thing you can't have enough of in a storage server like this is RAM and

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i mean that both in terms of capacity and in terms of speed when we were

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deploying this at my house we put the smallest crappiest kit that we possibly

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could i mean obviously without compromising on reliability so this is

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64 gigs of 2666 ddr4 truthfully the

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sticks i'm putting in now aren't really ideal either they're running at 26.66

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mega transfers per second compared to epic's maximum of 3200

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but we're gonna have 256 gigs rather

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than 64 gigs which is going to make a big difference especially for using zfs

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which we are as much as there might be some kind of GPU accelerated

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storage something uh i've never heard of it so we're gonna pull this 1050 ti out

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here that was supposed to be for plex transcoding and we're gonna replace it

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with this gorgeous melanox connect x6 100 gigabit

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per second network card uh do we really need these one terabyte drives for boot

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we have like a dozen of those uh those octane m.2s that are like 32 gigs and

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they're perfect there's actually not that many left server boot drives oh

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really oh all right well i guess i keep using them for stuff like this where it just

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really doesn't matter how much capacity you have and you just want something reliable speaking of our installation

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media there was a fair bit of deliberation when it came to choosing an

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operating system ubuntu server seemed

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good except that the current long-term supported version or lts for short

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doesn't have open zfs 2.0 which features a bunch of performance improvements for

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zfs which is the file system we intend to use and then db and 11 sounded good

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it has open cfs 2.0 and a version of

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samba the software used to host Windows compatible smb network shares from this

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year which is great except it's from march um which is not great so the

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beginning of this video ended up being a bit of a lie because while we could have

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still gone with Linux just find a distro that's got a new enough kernel uh

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potentially build open zfs 2.0 and samba

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from scratch there is an easier option trueness it's got opencfs 2.0 a very

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recent samba and a really nice web interface for managing your storage it's

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not Linux but it is based on a unix-like

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operating system called freebsd so we're

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we're back on the used to be free nas now truenas train i don't know what it

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is about their product but pretty much every time i go to use it something

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blows up in a way that is totally inexplicable i've ended up escalated to

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like directors and vps of engineering multiple times with nobody ever able to

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explain why the product just won't work properly for me but hey fifth time's a

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charm works properly for Jake yeah as long as

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it works properly for Jake you know our backup servers are running truenast for

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like a year now i i know i know it's a good product i've recommended it to

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countless people i've just never been able to get it working the way that i

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need it to work did it just turn on do you have it set to just restore power on

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ac probably okay let's just give it a sec here that's what servers are

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supposed to do okay where's that usb we don't need it oh we're gonna do it

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properly i thought you told me we need a usb uh just for just for visuals are we

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gonna go ipmi af and use an image and everything yeah look at us doing things

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properly today yeah i didn't download truenast but i

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will now wait what happened to my laptop i put it away you don't need it oh you

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told me to bring it i didn't realize there was a keyboard here ah the problem

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with mac ipmi is i can't like press f10 properly like doesn't work press f10 to

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pay respect doesn't work i can screen record on this thing for

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like an hour and only use like 30 battery and its touch pad is the

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equivalent of being hung like a horse it is look at it

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look at this let me show you my touch pad okay look oh okay it's a touch pad

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actually what i was really going to show you was my underwear from lttstore.com

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store lttstore.com it comes with cat hair comes no it doesn't that's from

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your cat i just walk out in the hallway and she's like what's up bro

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virtual cd-rom enter here we go boys this is the smart way to do it you

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shouldn't actually ever have to plug a monitor into a server you ready install

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wow wow that was inspirational look at it go okay hold on hold on pick our door

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hold on yeah we don't want to install the wrong drive now this is cool even

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though AMD epic servers do not have any innate support for raid that means you

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can't even install two boot drives like we did and then just configured in the

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BIOS to run raid freaking simple one

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trueness has a quick and easy way for you to install your operating system to

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two drives so in the event of a hardware failure you're just

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ready to go again immediately yeah it literally just shows up as a separate boot entry you can just pick which one

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to boot from okay time to go to lunch see you later i'm asking if i can turn it on well

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that's too bad because i already did ah roasted

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yeah what's up now what are you gonna hard power it off yeah

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what's up no ha got him now who turned it on

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this guy wanna turn it off again

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i'm turning it off first

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this is bad hardware practices hey wait mother

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man it's not plugged in all the way oh my god snapped out must have been when

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you unplug the power i'm turning it off first

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why is there is there blinking on the port ip

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no we have to take it to the server room later anyways let's just take it there now this is the way to do it i mean did

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we say we were gonna do everything properly today

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uh no okay cool because that's definitely not what's happening hey i

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got 100 gig you won't believe how much gigabytes you

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can put in this bad boy there's a bunch of hard drives under there stop slapping

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it let's go back around i don't want to wait okay let's create a pool

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name name it's called lambo so do i click them in order to add the

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video no you don't um just click all and then unselect that

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oh yeah we don't want this dao i think that's the virtual

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thing from ipmi 12 selected just click over okay so i did a little bit of testing

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beforehand it doesn't seem like it makes a difference between having one v dev or

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two for our workload okay raid z is fine yeah raid z is going to give us one

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failed drive before we actually start to lose data i'm not expecting to lose a

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ton of these drives and this data is going to be replicated using our snapshot to another server that's over

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in unit 101 yeah and then it'll be replicated again off-site to kamloops

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once Jake gets around to fixing the new kamloops server yeah there we go oh

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that's 72 terabytes that's not bad that's not bad usable okay so we got to

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make a oh here first thing go to that yeah we have to turn auto trim on pool

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options oh why is that not by default well most people don't use ssds with

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trueness that's fair we got to make a

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new data set add data set and then let's call this a z drive turn

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compression off we don't need that pretty much all the data we're going to

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write to this thing is incompressible video footage so there's just no benefit

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we could turn it on later because there are other things like word files but for

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now because we're going to do some performance testing too let's leave it off turn a time off we don't need that

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either that's like the access time is that a festival store the last time a

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file is accessed you might use that to see if your kids have been looking at your

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share type smb that's gonna set it to be case insensitive okay um we're gonna

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leave the record size at 128 kb now you could theoretically change it to one

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megabyte that might be better if you're like have a plex server because those

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are bigger chunks which means less overhead i mean our chunks are pretty

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big but for whatever reason when i was playing with

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premiere it seemed like it was a little worse so at least in scrubbing

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yeah because it will increase your latency stuff oh we gotta do some zfs

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tuning yeah because why would you want things to just like work immediately

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look it's not made for NVMe we're kind of doing it dirty right now primary

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cache all one word equals

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metadata and then we'll do

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space lambo slash z drive

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okay enter aha okay

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okay that just means our RAM now stores only metadata yes

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which makes sense because our storage is so fast

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that there's pretty much no point using our system RAM as a more conventional

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cache for it for most use cases though i haven't actually played with it in

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premiere it might actually like the lower latency and when we deploy to

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actual wanik we'll have a terabyte of RAM so maybe

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it might actually make sense but for now we're just gonna leave it off okay wow it's really poorly formatted but

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lambo z drive users metadata on the next line cool it worked all right now we got

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a tomb samba so on truenast smb

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samba is not really configured for the type of performance that we're going for

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we're talking like 20 30 40 gigabit on our 100 gig card not you know gigabit or

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10 gig so we have to make a few changes now by default for some reason at least

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according to this dude on the internet that has this article about trueness and

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the testing that i've done it seems like they set the the default threads for smb

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multi-channel to like one read one right whereas like the default in samba is

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like a hundred right there's probably a reason for this and maybe they've

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changed it back but from testing before changing it to testing after it was a

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huge difference i wonder if it's one of those things where for the average home

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user repurposing an old machine and just like throwing a couple hard drives in

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which closet yeah yeah maybe it like overwhelms you know that the athlon xp

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then this is also like the community edition right so if you were to buy a

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machine from truenas one of their pre-built i imagine they would already configure this stuff for you anyways

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we're just going to copy paste this stuff into our config

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just need one more zero in there a lot of bytes yep now the thing is these

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drives are capable of like tens of gigabytes a second of raw reads and

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writes but as soon as you start trying to run a

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file system on them like zfs performance

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takes a bit of a kick in the balls especially when you have to calculate

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parity which is a whole other thing that's why we upgraded the CPU hopefully

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we can get a little more parody in let's see where we end up okay

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we're going to do a right test first 50. here we go 12 jobs because we have 12 drives laying

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out some files that's pretty good wow

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that's more than 100 gig it kind of fluctuates a bit

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but that's pretty damn good that is not bad as long as we're above 100 gig yeah

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then we can't possibly be bottlenecked by the drives and

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i think we're at bottleneck by CPU right now too i bet if we go look at the CPU

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oh yeah it's probably getting absolutely crashed 100

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41 you know it's probably a little bit slower in terms of writing then i bet

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you if we do a read test it'll be 100 oh okay but i think it's just because it's calculating parity and whatnot true nas

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is not built for these speeds we're using them for these speeds

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but properly yeah all right read eight gigabytes a second you know i was

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getting a little higher than this before i'm a little surprised i wonder if the

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CPU is slower so far beyond good enough now something to note is that when

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you're benchmarking your desktop system changing the queue depth to get like

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massive numbers is not representative of the real world because an individual

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user sitting in front of a computer could never use it hard enough to reach

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q depths of you know eight probably let

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alone 16 or 32 which you might do in benchmarking however for a machine like

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this where literally dozens of people are accessing it that is conceivable and

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that is a reasonable way to test it but we were only testing with two yeah so

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that's why i said it's turning it up is not it's not a hack to just show you

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guys a bigger number it actually is applicable to this user i wonder if we

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try more threads we have more threads so let's try 24 2

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give me all the threads 20.

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give me more threads i want a bigger number

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whoa hey there it is

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18 gb bytes per second interestingly CPU usage doesn't really

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go up tldr it's very fast very fast it's way

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faster than we ever need and it's way faster than one so let's

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try fishy you know it's good that we actually left the one terabyte in there

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because of those ingest issues so that was another problem that

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actually that was what really prompted me to go okay yeah forget it we're done

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with this because when we would ingest footage from the stations over there

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if it was greater than one terabyte it would fill up less than that is it it

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basically like when you write to storage spaces it just goes to RAM and then it

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flushes to disk slowly and when we had the ursas those drives could do like one

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and a half gigabytes a second you know times a few if you ingested fast enough

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you'd fill up the RAM and storage spaces only lets itself use half of your system

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memory right and then at that point it would just crash the network share like for

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everyone and there's no evident way to turn it off yeah because

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our disks are fast enough we could just go straight to the disks but we couldn't

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turn off the stupid round caching

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and especially when you've got an os that blue screens every once in a while

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having 500 gigabytes of data potentially in a

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RAM cache yeah one does not simply

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so this is kind of dog poo what we need to do is go into one of the editors

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stations that is not Windows server running storage spaces and like copy these files

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or something okay so i actually oh my god i didn't touch it

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i'm sorry it's been a stressful week

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what's up can i borrow this of course okay let me drive for a sec here

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okay so i want to copy this to my local drive

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huh that is not very good

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Jake

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it's possible that the issue is just Windows file transfer being Windows file

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transfer so we're pulling out the big guns here bringing out show easy copy

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look at that 20 gigabit oh well that's better

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uh where are you going to and from right now i'm going from wanik to

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to the other the test one yeah and i'm sure we open this

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lots of blinky lights

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so there are okay

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yeah there's your CPU right there okay

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i'm copying over a red mag

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boom pinned to 495 megabytes a second which

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is the speed of a red meg okay what else we got red map brandon is

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what's yours going at

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499 okay so we've got a total of a Gigabyte a second heading over there i

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need to find some more media to copy here what you'll see is sometimes it'll

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slow down when it's going between clips red footage is a bunch of clips so yeah

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between each clip Windows file transfer will like dip for a bit yeah we're

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definitely running into some kind of bottleneck on this system where it's maxing out at 500 megabytes a second no

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matter what we plug into but still overall the ingestations are

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performing better than with old wanik which is new 1-3 so this will be new new

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new wanik anyway the point is i paused all the transfers and we're

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going to have three or four editors now try to edit and then i'm going to start these again and make sure everyone's

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smooth our guinea pigs are going to be ed mark

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and emily over here and you guys are

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pretending to edit right i mean that's basically all everyone in here does

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right if everyone a prime pretending to edit what are you

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pretending to edit right now i'm not pretending you know oh okay well we've

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got at least okay we got at least one editor actually editing fantastic

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hoffman that's a beautiful picture of david all right so guys keep pretending

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to edit andy you stay here i'm gonna go turn on all those file copies just like

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before we got about 10 gig on the one on the right five gig on the one on the

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left and how are your projects going it seemed fairly normal or very normal or

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better than normal it's not better but it's normal not better but normal yeah

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it's pretty much exactly exactly the same all right thanks teddy yeah it's

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good it's acceptable is it it's not worse

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that's good but it's not better it's

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it's hard to say to be honest okay yeah okay it's it's

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i could i could have it with this yeah okay

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really wasn't the goal today the goal today was hey this is going to be perfect and amazing you guys are going

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to love it so uh is it no no

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the goal was the same okay ed how's yours doing

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um i think this is doing well historically i think it's about on par

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with uh what performance was like before but as of late this is a lot better um i

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used to have runaway footage pretty pretty often

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in the last uh little bit for those of you not familiar that means when you

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stop the playhead it like keeps going for a bit or yeah yeah okay like the

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last couple weeks right yeah the last couple weeks when i would play back

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footage especially uh the footage from the sony's it would

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just like run away for me for a few seconds it's hard to make an accurate

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car that way yeah okay now it seems fine

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