WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.280 The thing with covering tech is sometimes, it's hard not to get caught up in the hype train yourself. 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:07.720 I've spent so much time talking about how exciting it is 00:00:07.720 --> 00:00:13.160 that the Pixel 8 and the Pixel 8 Pro come with seven years of software support 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:19.120 that I haven't stopped to ask myself, are these phones I would wanna use for seven years? 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:25.920 I guess it's time to answer that. Wow, that is a hard, that's not a camera bump, 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:29.600 that's a camera lip. Truth be told, I haven't daily driven a Pixel 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:34.520 since, good Lord, gen four, gen five? 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:38.040 So this Jordy from Star Trek, next generation, 00:00:38.040 --> 00:00:41.440 whole thing that they've got going on here is kind of a new experience for me. 00:00:41.440 --> 00:00:45.600 Wow, that's really sharp. Does someone have like a, do we have a seven handy? 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.840 David, are you seeing this? That's pretty wild. 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:54.520 I mean, yours has that same hard edge on it, but man, they needed to rethink that on this. 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.920 I could see that getting caught on your pocket. 00:00:57.920 --> 00:00:59.400 Hold on, let's try it. 00:01:03.680 --> 00:01:07.480 Oh, no, no, she slides, she slides, okay, 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:08.880 hold on, let's try it again. 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:16.760 Okay, all right, maybe I'm making a mountain out of a small mountain here. 00:01:18.320 --> 00:01:25.360 Compared to the seven, rather than the seven A though, the difference is, wow, really subtle, like, 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:26.520 can you see that? 00:01:28.520 --> 00:01:31.640 Like, barely, it seems to be there, 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:35.000 but it's not that noticeable. Of course, the polarizing camera bump 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:39.800 is not the star of the show here. That honor goes to the new Tensor G3 processor. 00:01:39.800 --> 00:01:43.560 It has a nine core CPU, one high performance core, 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:47.680 four mid cores, four low performance energy efficient cores, 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:50.760 and it's accompanied by either eight or 12 gigs 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:54.020 of LPDDR5X, depending on whether you go for the eight 00:01:54.660 --> 00:01:59.500 or the eight pro. Either of them is gonna be equipped with a seven core Mali-715 GPU, 00:01:59.500 --> 00:02:05.300 so we should see pretty strong gaming performance on the Pixel 8, but there are some key features 00:02:05.300 --> 00:02:08.900 that are different between the two devices, some of which are hardware, 00:02:08.900 --> 00:02:12.060 and some of which are really more software, 00:02:12.060 --> 00:02:16.140 which makes it feel kind of arbitrary, like, oh, you didn't spend enough, 00:02:16.140 --> 00:02:19.260 well, I guess you don't get those features. Talk about that in a minute. 00:02:19.260 --> 00:02:22.060 First, let's have a look at what comes in the package. You get a cable. 00:02:23.060 --> 00:02:27.220 And an adapter for your cable. I was gonna say this, 00:02:27.220 --> 00:02:32.220 surely this can't be to do anything with this cable. 00:02:32.660 --> 00:02:36.860 I mean, you could jam that in there, but you might cause a short, don't do that please. 00:02:36.860 --> 00:02:40.380 Hopefully you have a USB-C wall wart or computer to charge this thing off of, 00:02:40.380 --> 00:02:43.740 because this is not a type C to type A adapter, 00:02:43.740 --> 00:02:48.700 rather this is just a transfer adapter so that you can move all of your data off of your old phone. 00:02:48.700 --> 00:02:53.420 In fact, that's one of the cool software features that is applicable to both of these devices. 00:02:53.420 --> 00:02:57.820 Google has beefed up their transfer wizard to allow you to move over not just your apps and data, 00:02:57.820 --> 00:03:01.780 but even things like your home screen layout, which, if you're a creature of habit like me, 00:03:01.780 --> 00:03:05.860 is actually kind of a big deal. I'm pretty excited about that. 00:03:05.860 --> 00:03:09.940 Wow, that's bright. And that is apparently by design. 00:03:09.940 --> 00:03:14.500 Google claims that on top of the better processor, these phones, particularly the 8 Pro, 00:03:14.500 --> 00:03:17.500 have the best screens they have ever put on their devices, 00:03:17.500 --> 00:03:20.460 with the 8 Pro boasting an LTPO OLED panel 00:03:20.500 --> 00:03:24.340 that can do from one to 120 Hertz variable refresh rate 00:03:24.340 --> 00:03:27.660 and up to 2400 nits peak brightness. 00:03:27.660 --> 00:03:30.660 Now, we weren't able to replicate those results. 00:03:30.660 --> 00:03:34.660 Our peak brightness was measured at about 1900 nits, 00:03:34.660 --> 00:03:39.380 but it should be noted we measured that in SDR. We don't have the tools for HDR yet, 00:03:39.380 --> 00:03:42.660 so it's not impossible that this would reach those lofty highs. 00:03:42.660 --> 00:03:46.680 By contrast, the Pixel 8 does not get quite the same capabilities. 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.140 It only supports a 60 to 120 Hertz refresh rate window, 00:03:50.140 --> 00:03:53.700 so there could be some efficiency losses there, 00:03:53.700 --> 00:03:56.780 and it only reaches 2000 nits peak brightness 00:03:56.780 --> 00:04:03.180 according to Google's marketing materials. In a 5% window though, we saw about 1600 nits again. 00:04:03.180 --> 00:04:06.540 It's possible we do 2000 in HDR, we just aren't sure yet. 00:04:06.540 --> 00:04:10.500 On the subject of efficiency, they do get different sized batteries. 00:04:10.500 --> 00:04:15.060 What's funny though, is our battery life testing didn't reveal an advantage for the 8 Pro 00:04:15.060 --> 00:04:19.420 in spite of the fact that it has a larger physical battery. And there's a number of reasons for this. 00:04:19.420 --> 00:04:22.860 One, is that it has a larger, well, brighter display, 00:04:22.860 --> 00:04:26.460 but two, it also has a higher resolution display. 00:04:26.460 --> 00:04:29.980 So that's going to be more expensive for the GPU 00:04:29.980 --> 00:04:34.860 to drive in terms of power consumption. The last reason is that our battery life testing 00:04:34.860 --> 00:04:39.020 is actually done running full screen apps like video playback. 00:04:39.020 --> 00:04:43.460 So you're not gonna be able to take advantage of that super low refresh rate display 00:04:43.460 --> 00:04:47.380 when it isn't sitting idle and it's actually displaying moving content. 00:04:47.420 --> 00:04:52.620 So in the real world, you may end up with a much more similar experience between the two. 00:04:52.620 --> 00:04:57.460 One thing that was similar was the charging speed. They both reached over 90% in one hour of charging 00:04:57.460 --> 00:05:00.500 and managed a full charge in about an hour and 15 minutes. 00:05:00.500 --> 00:05:04.020 And modern fast charging just makes the whole charge 00:05:04.020 --> 00:05:07.300 at night paradigm seem kind of quaint and antiquated. 00:05:07.300 --> 00:05:11.980 I'm not gonna get too much into gaming performance other than to say that both of them are notable upgrades 00:05:11.980 --> 00:05:17.620 over the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro. Genshin Impact in particular is really playable now 00:05:17.620 --> 00:05:22.220 with 1% lows that are over 30 FPS. But knowing from our thermal testing 00:05:22.220 --> 00:05:28.260 that most of the heat is escaping from this phone via the aluminum frame and the camera bump, 00:05:28.260 --> 00:05:32.180 I am a little bit worried about how hot those components got 00:05:32.180 --> 00:05:35.820 while we were doing our gaming testing. The outside of the phone reached as high 00:05:35.820 --> 00:05:39.700 as 44 degrees Celsius, which isn't enough to burn you 00:05:40.900 --> 00:05:44.620 immediately. Actually, I should look that up. 00:05:44.620 --> 00:05:47.660 45 is enough to give you a second degree burn 00:05:47.660 --> 00:05:51.620 after two hours. So if you're at 44 and you game for two hours, 00:05:51.620 --> 00:05:57.180 you could conceivably burn your skin. Of course, I would expect you to be a very smart person 00:05:57.180 --> 00:06:00.540 who shifts their hands around a little bit every once in a while, 00:06:00.540 --> 00:06:04.540 but I don't know, I've met some people who get pretty dialed in when they came. 00:06:04.540 --> 00:06:09.180 It's pretty hot. I do have to say I like the overall just fit and finish 00:06:09.220 --> 00:06:12.220 of these. Like I said before, it's been a while 00:06:12.220 --> 00:06:15.460 since I've daily driven a Pixel. Man, have they ever come a long way. 00:06:15.460 --> 00:06:22.100 It actually feels like a thousand dollar phone now, which it should because it is $700 for the eight, 00:06:22.100 --> 00:06:25.340 a thousand dollars for the eight pro. 00:06:25.340 --> 00:06:29.380 I gotta say, I actually like the matte finish on the eight 00:06:29.380 --> 00:06:34.540 better than the gloss on the eight pro. This feels, it almost feels like it's made of plastic. 00:06:34.540 --> 00:06:38.740 Do you guys, do you guys find that? Here, come touch it. Somebody come touch it. 00:06:38.740 --> 00:06:43.500 Like honestly, if I told you this, is this the edges? 00:06:43.500 --> 00:06:45.500 If I told you that costs more than that. 00:06:47.180 --> 00:06:51.380 Feels greasy. Yeah, and I like- This size is so much better too. 00:06:51.380 --> 00:06:56.300 My hands are not even dirty. Anyway, yeah, I'm not a huge fan, 00:06:56.300 --> 00:07:01.500 though I do like the frosted back compared to the glossy glass back. 00:07:01.500 --> 00:07:05.700 Why can't I have the best of both worlds, Google? Like look, oh man, look at that. 00:07:05.700 --> 00:07:10.060 You see how much glare there is in the eight compared to the eight pro? 00:07:10.060 --> 00:07:13.940 That's a really, really nice blasted glass back. 00:07:13.940 --> 00:07:18.020 Speaking of glass backs, they both do wireless charging with the pro doing 23 watts 00:07:18.020 --> 00:07:22.180 and the non-pro doing 18 watts, which is a little slower than what they do over a wire, 00:07:22.180 --> 00:07:27.540 but not that much. I mean, that's within striking distance, which is not bad. 00:07:27.540 --> 00:07:33.020 Both phones get Wi-Fi seven and they get this new class three biometric face unlock, 00:07:33.020 --> 00:07:36.540 which is still just face unlock, 00:07:36.580 --> 00:07:40.740 except instead of needing an array of sensors, they're able to do class three 00:07:40.740 --> 00:07:45.220 with just the front-facing camera. Kind of ironic given that one of the controversies 00:07:45.220 --> 00:07:48.380 around this phone is the blurriness of the front-facing camera. 00:07:48.380 --> 00:07:52.900 Okay, we'll look at the camera in a second. First, I wanna just try setting up that facial unlock. 00:07:53.980 --> 00:07:54.820 Let's start. 00:08:01.100 --> 00:08:03.780 That was it? Wow, that was, 00:08:04.180 --> 00:08:08.140 it's pretty fast. 00:08:08.140 --> 00:08:11.380 I'm still not a huge fan. I'd still rather just use a fingerprint. 00:08:11.380 --> 00:08:15.260 If I'm gonna have to touch the screen anyway, okay, let's see how fast the fingerprint is. 00:08:15.260 --> 00:08:17.140 Let's try fingerprint unlock. Boom. 00:08:18.780 --> 00:08:23.100 But, but, I'll have to wake it first, really? 00:08:23.100 --> 00:08:25.100 Okay, it should wake when I pick it up though. 00:08:30.500 --> 00:08:33.420 Blah, I mean, maybe that was an outlier. Outlier, right? 00:08:34.140 --> 00:08:37.700 Okay. I am on the thing. 00:08:40.540 --> 00:08:44.740 Oh, that's, that's, oh, that's terrible. 00:08:44.740 --> 00:08:48.340 Okay, it's fast when it decides to finally start actually reading it. 00:08:49.340 --> 00:08:52.620 Physically, aside from the camera bump, I mean, there's not a lot to say. 00:08:52.620 --> 00:08:55.780 Lock button, volume rocker, USB-C port, 00:08:55.780 --> 00:08:59.340 got some speakers on there, sim card, 00:08:59.340 --> 00:09:02.900 and yeah, all the same things, but smaller. 00:09:02.900 --> 00:09:06.900 And overall, the theme kind of feels like, yeah, it's better than last gen, 00:09:06.900 --> 00:09:09.980 but we didn't really think outside the box on this one, 00:09:09.980 --> 00:09:13.260 which incidentally is the theme of this message from our sponsor. 00:09:13.260 --> 00:09:16.780 Hey, press power button twice to open up the camera. Love it. 00:09:16.780 --> 00:09:20.180 Can you also switch lens? Nope. 00:09:20.180 --> 00:09:24.460 That is not how this one works. That just doesn't do anything. 00:09:24.460 --> 00:09:29.340 You still got some things to learn from your old Powell Samsung. 00:09:29.340 --> 00:09:33.060 Double click. Okay, it's a note nine. 00:09:33.060 --> 00:09:38.260 It's pretty slow. Double click. Ooh, selfie camera, what's up? 00:09:38.260 --> 00:09:42.140 Oh, that's sick. It tells you up your level? 00:09:42.140 --> 00:09:45.380 Shut up. Oh, yeah, that's not me. Yeah, no, I believe you. 00:09:45.380 --> 00:09:50.180 Like I said, I haven't daily to pixel them forever. I mean, it's not the kind of thing that I would need, 00:09:50.180 --> 00:09:54.140 but that idiot I had my camera to when I'm on the Las Vegas strip or whatever, 00:09:54.140 --> 00:09:58.980 and I just want to get a picture with the wife, and they're like, oh, yeah, I have a, 00:09:58.980 --> 00:10:02.180 I don't know, it seems pretty good. Really? 00:10:02.180 --> 00:10:06.340 Eyes closed in the picture, James? I don't know what you're doing. He's like napping over here. 00:10:06.340 --> 00:10:11.060 Naturally, it's flipping sharp, even shooting directly into a light. 00:10:11.060 --> 00:10:18.020 It's kind of shocking how much detail it retains, and I can even see things that my own eyes can't make out. 00:10:18.020 --> 00:10:21.540 Start. Oh, interesting. 00:10:21.540 --> 00:10:26.140 That's cool. It prompted a fingerprint scan in order to start screen recording. 00:10:26.140 --> 00:10:29.620 I actually kind of like that. Now, with the Pixel 8, 00:10:29.620 --> 00:10:34.220 I would expect the main shooter to behave in pretty much exactly the same way, 00:10:34.220 --> 00:10:37.900 all the way down to James having his eyes closed. Thank you very much for that. 00:10:37.900 --> 00:10:41.740 Oh, that's funny. It's trying to boost the completely covered lens 00:10:41.740 --> 00:10:47.940 that is face down on this mouse pad, LTTstore.com by the way, into something usable. 00:10:47.940 --> 00:10:49.340 Okay, can Night Sight do it? 00:10:51.060 --> 00:10:54.140 No. At least it knows it can't do it though. 00:10:54.140 --> 00:10:59.440 While they both have the same 50 megapixel main camera, the 8 has a 12 megapixel ultra-wide, 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.960 while the 8 Pro has a 48 megapixel ultra-wide 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:06.520 and a 48 megapixel 5x telephoto lens. 00:11:06.520 --> 00:11:12.800 So theoretically, you should be able to, oh wow, 5x is a frickin' lot. 00:11:12.800 --> 00:11:16.800 And what's really cool is not only are you getting a high resolution secondary sensor, 00:11:16.800 --> 00:11:20.200 you're also getting advanced features like optical image stabilization. 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.360 So unlike older phones where, sure, 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:29.200 you have these secondary cameras, but realistically, you're better off just taking a shot with your main one 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:34.200 and then zooming in on it, you may actually be better off using your telephoto. 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:40.960 Like this looks really sharp. That is definitely, without question, 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:45.200 way sharper than what I would have if I just zoomed this in. 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.520 Not even close. I'm moving a bit. 00:11:48.520 --> 00:11:51.640 Shake it baby. That's not bad. 00:11:51.640 --> 00:11:58.240 It's definitely a little bit jello and it, it's kind of sticky, especially in 5x. 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:01.720 Do you know what I mean by sticky? Ooh, it's sticky in 1x too. 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:06.520 I can see what it's trying to do. It tries to kind of, 00:12:06.520 --> 00:12:10.240 it seems like use an outer part of the sensor 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:13.360 to kind of compensate a little bit when I'm moving and then slowly catch up 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:15.880 once it figures out that my movement was intentional. 00:12:17.640 --> 00:12:21.920 Obviously, this is just a quick and dirty test, but I can already tell 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.880 this screen is anywhere near color accurate. What it's recording is not. 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:31.800 And the iPhone is still gonna be king for video for another generation or two. 00:12:31.800 --> 00:12:34.960 But I wanted to talk about the selfie camera, right? 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:38.640 Let's try it on both of them. That's interesting. I hit the shutter and made movement. 00:12:38.640 --> 00:12:43.960 It didn't actually make the click until later in the movement, but it was blurry. 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.520 So it started capturing stuff for sure. On the subject of blurry, 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:51.800 I gotta say I feel like there might be a little bit of user error here 00:12:51.800 --> 00:12:54.840 because that seems like a perfectly sharp selfie camera 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.200 to me. And it's kind of ironic because if they sharpened it too much, 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:02.200 they might end up in the same kind of controversy hot water that Apple's in right now with people saying, 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.800 oh, my selfies look so ugly on the iPhone 15 Pro. 00:13:05.800 --> 00:13:10.700 It's too sharp. I was hoping to play around with some of the, 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:19.680 some of the tools for editing photos, but it looks like maybe some of that's pending. 00:13:19.680 --> 00:13:23.520 We're recording this a little early. But there are some other things that were like that. 00:13:23.520 --> 00:13:29.400 The temperature sensor on the 8 Pro, for example, didn't work until an update that we got this morning. 00:13:29.400 --> 00:13:35.240 Google advertises their thermometer as being able to be used to check the temperature of everyday objects. 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.320 It is a little limited in that you need to be within 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:41.400 five centimeters or two inches of whatever it is 00:13:41.400 --> 00:13:45.920 that you're trying to measure. But hey, here, let's grab a temperature reading from, 00:13:45.920 --> 00:13:51.320 oh wow, not two inches, that is really close. From this box, 22.9 degrees Celsius. 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:55.480 Okay, that seems kind of believable. Let's validate that with a professional 00:13:55.480 --> 00:14:01.240 grade thermal camera now. The FLIR camera says 23.7. 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:06.360 Okay, yeah, that's within a degree. I'd say that's pretty, oh, and it also depends 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:11.920 where on the box we're measuring. Let's try, oh, let's try skin, my skin temperature. 00:14:11.920 --> 00:14:14.040 Okay, 34 degrees Celsius. 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.640 Here we go. Sorry guys, I just gotta check my temperature real quick. 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.800 Now, obviously these aren't using exactly the same method 00:14:26.800 --> 00:14:30.960 for recording temperature, but I mean, 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:34.800 it's consistent at least. I don't know how useful that is. 00:14:34.800 --> 00:14:38.560 But hey, I mean, we weren't sure how useful the accelerometer would be in the iPhone, 00:14:38.560 --> 00:14:40.560 and here we are. Oh my God. 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:46.720 Just call it sRGB or like, allow me to set a white point. 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.800 This sucks. It's not loud yet, I haven't turned it up yet. 00:14:51.520 --> 00:14:54.920 But that really does seem like unusually good imaging. 00:15:00.760 --> 00:15:03.520 Max volume, obvious distortion. 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:06.160 Before max volume though. 00:15:09.760 --> 00:15:13.240 Actually not bad. Not the best I've heard. 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.440 Not bad at all. How's the smaller pixelate though? 00:15:16.800 --> 00:15:22.880 Mix a really big difference exactly how you hold it, 00:15:22.880 --> 00:15:28.240 but I'd be perfectly happy with either of those. One thing I would like to say still is, 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.640 man, I do wish that you could get the eight in the bigger size 00:15:31.640 --> 00:15:36.680 or the eight pro in the smaller size, because man, this is a lot more handle-able for me, 00:15:36.680 --> 00:15:39.920 but I feel like especially having seen 00:15:39.920 --> 00:15:44.120 what this camera is capable of, I would be very tempted. 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:47.720 The ultra-wide, for example, also has optical image stabilization 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:51.760 and better autofocus now, like Trey's compelling. 00:15:51.760 --> 00:15:54.920 Trey's subscribed to ShortCircuit, and I'll see you in the next one.