1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,280 The thing with covering tech is sometimes, it's hard not to get caught up in the hype train yourself. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,720 I've spent so much time talking about how exciting it is 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:13,160 that the Pixel 8 and the Pixel 8 Pro come with seven years of software support 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:19,120 that I haven't stopped to ask myself, are these phones I would wanna use for seven years? 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:25,920 I guess it's time to answer that. Wow, that is a hard, that's not a camera bump, 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,600 that's a camera lip. Truth be told, I haven't daily driven a Pixel 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,520 since, good Lord, gen four, gen five? 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,040 So this Jordy from Star Trek, next generation, 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,440 whole thing that they've got going on here is kind of a new experience for me. 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,600 Wow, that's really sharp. Does someone have like a, do we have a seven handy? 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,840 David, are you seeing this? That's pretty wild. 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,520 I mean, yours has that same hard edge on it, but man, they needed to rethink that on this. 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,920 I could see that getting caught on your pocket. 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Hold on, let's try it. 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,480 Oh, no, no, she slides, she slides, okay, 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,880 hold on, let's try it again. 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,760 Okay, all right, maybe I'm making a mountain out of a small mountain here. 18 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:25,360 Compared to the seven, rather than the seven A though, the difference is, wow, really subtle, like, 19 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,520 can you see that? 20 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,640 Like, barely, it seems to be there, 21 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,000 but it's not that noticeable. Of course, the polarizing camera bump 22 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,800 is not the star of the show here. That honor goes to the new Tensor G3 processor. 23 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,560 It has a nine core CPU, one high performance core, 24 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,680 four mid cores, four low performance energy efficient cores, 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,760 and it's accompanied by either eight or 12 gigs 26 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,020 of LPDDR5X, depending on whether you go for the eight 27 00:01:54,660 --> 00:01:59,500 or the eight pro. Either of them is gonna be equipped with a seven core Mali-715 GPU, 28 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:05,300 so we should see pretty strong gaming performance on the Pixel 8, but there are some key features 29 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:08,900 that are different between the two devices, some of which are hardware, 30 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:12,060 and some of which are really more software, 31 00:02:12,060 --> 00:02:16,140 which makes it feel kind of arbitrary, like, oh, you didn't spend enough, 32 00:02:16,140 --> 00:02:19,260 well, I guess you don't get those features. Talk about that in a minute. 33 00:02:19,260 --> 00:02:22,060 First, let's have a look at what comes in the package. You get a cable. 34 00:02:23,060 --> 00:02:27,220 And an adapter for your cable. I was gonna say this, 35 00:02:27,220 --> 00:02:32,220 surely this can't be to do anything with this cable. 36 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:36,860 I mean, you could jam that in there, but you might cause a short, don't do that please. 37 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:40,380 Hopefully you have a USB-C wall wart or computer to charge this thing off of, 38 00:02:40,380 --> 00:02:43,740 because this is not a type C to type A adapter, 39 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:48,700 rather this is just a transfer adapter so that you can move all of your data off of your old phone. 40 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:53,420 In fact, that's one of the cool software features that is applicable to both of these devices. 41 00:02:53,420 --> 00:02:57,820 Google has beefed up their transfer wizard to allow you to move over not just your apps and data, 42 00:02:57,820 --> 00:03:01,780 but even things like your home screen layout, which, if you're a creature of habit like me, 43 00:03:01,780 --> 00:03:05,860 is actually kind of a big deal. I'm pretty excited about that. 44 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:09,940 Wow, that's bright. And that is apparently by design. 45 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:14,500 Google claims that on top of the better processor, these phones, particularly the 8 Pro, 46 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:17,500 have the best screens they have ever put on their devices, 47 00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:20,460 with the 8 Pro boasting an LTPO OLED panel 48 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:24,340 that can do from one to 120 Hertz variable refresh rate 49 00:03:24,340 --> 00:03:27,660 and up to 2400 nits peak brightness. 50 00:03:27,660 --> 00:03:30,660 Now, we weren't able to replicate those results. 51 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:34,660 Our peak brightness was measured at about 1900 nits, 52 00:03:34,660 --> 00:03:39,380 but it should be noted we measured that in SDR. We don't have the tools for HDR yet, 53 00:03:39,380 --> 00:03:42,660 so it's not impossible that this would reach those lofty highs. 54 00:03:42,660 --> 00:03:46,680 By contrast, the Pixel 8 does not get quite the same capabilities. 55 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,140 It only supports a 60 to 120 Hertz refresh rate window, 56 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:53,700 so there could be some efficiency losses there, 57 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:56,780 and it only reaches 2000 nits peak brightness 58 00:03:56,780 --> 00:04:03,180 according to Google's marketing materials. In a 5% window though, we saw about 1600 nits again. 59 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:06,540 It's possible we do 2000 in HDR, we just aren't sure yet. 60 00:04:06,540 --> 00:04:10,500 On the subject of efficiency, they do get different sized batteries. 61 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:15,060 What's funny though, is our battery life testing didn't reveal an advantage for the 8 Pro 62 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:19,420 in spite of the fact that it has a larger physical battery. And there's a number of reasons for this. 63 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:22,860 One, is that it has a larger, well, brighter display, 64 00:04:22,860 --> 00:04:26,460 but two, it also has a higher resolution display. 65 00:04:26,460 --> 00:04:29,980 So that's going to be more expensive for the GPU 66 00:04:29,980 --> 00:04:34,860 to drive in terms of power consumption. The last reason is that our battery life testing 67 00:04:34,860 --> 00:04:39,020 is actually done running full screen apps like video playback. 68 00:04:39,020 --> 00:04:43,460 So you're not gonna be able to take advantage of that super low refresh rate display 69 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:47,380 when it isn't sitting idle and it's actually displaying moving content. 70 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:52,620 So in the real world, you may end up with a much more similar experience between the two. 71 00:04:52,620 --> 00:04:57,460 One thing that was similar was the charging speed. They both reached over 90% in one hour of charging 72 00:04:57,460 --> 00:05:00,500 and managed a full charge in about an hour and 15 minutes. 73 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:04,020 And modern fast charging just makes the whole charge 74 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:07,300 at night paradigm seem kind of quaint and antiquated. 75 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:11,980 I'm not gonna get too much into gaming performance other than to say that both of them are notable upgrades 76 00:05:11,980 --> 00:05:17,620 over the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro. Genshin Impact in particular is really playable now 77 00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:22,220 with 1% lows that are over 30 FPS. But knowing from our thermal testing 78 00:05:22,220 --> 00:05:28,260 that most of the heat is escaping from this phone via the aluminum frame and the camera bump, 79 00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:32,180 I am a little bit worried about how hot those components got 80 00:05:32,180 --> 00:05:35,820 while we were doing our gaming testing. The outside of the phone reached as high 81 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:39,700 as 44 degrees Celsius, which isn't enough to burn you 82 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:44,620 immediately. Actually, I should look that up. 83 00:05:44,620 --> 00:05:47,660 45 is enough to give you a second degree burn 84 00:05:47,660 --> 00:05:51,620 after two hours. So if you're at 44 and you game for two hours, 85 00:05:51,620 --> 00:05:57,180 you could conceivably burn your skin. Of course, I would expect you to be a very smart person 86 00:05:57,180 --> 00:06:00,540 who shifts their hands around a little bit every once in a while, 87 00:06:00,540 --> 00:06:04,540 but I don't know, I've met some people who get pretty dialed in when they came. 88 00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:09,180 It's pretty hot. I do have to say I like the overall just fit and finish 89 00:06:09,220 --> 00:06:12,220 of these. Like I said before, it's been a while 90 00:06:12,220 --> 00:06:15,460 since I've daily driven a Pixel. Man, have they ever come a long way. 91 00:06:15,460 --> 00:06:22,100 It actually feels like a thousand dollar phone now, which it should because it is $700 for the eight, 92 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:25,340 a thousand dollars for the eight pro. 93 00:06:25,340 --> 00:06:29,380 I gotta say, I actually like the matte finish on the eight 94 00:06:29,380 --> 00:06:34,540 better than the gloss on the eight pro. This feels, it almost feels like it's made of plastic. 95 00:06:34,540 --> 00:06:38,740 Do you guys, do you guys find that? Here, come touch it. Somebody come touch it. 96 00:06:38,740 --> 00:06:43,500 Like honestly, if I told you this, is this the edges? 97 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:45,500 If I told you that costs more than that. 98 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:51,380 Feels greasy. Yeah, and I like- This size is so much better too. 99 00:06:51,380 --> 00:06:56,300 My hands are not even dirty. Anyway, yeah, I'm not a huge fan, 100 00:06:56,300 --> 00:07:01,500 though I do like the frosted back compared to the glossy glass back. 101 00:07:01,500 --> 00:07:05,700 Why can't I have the best of both worlds, Google? Like look, oh man, look at that. 102 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:10,060 You see how much glare there is in the eight compared to the eight pro? 103 00:07:10,060 --> 00:07:13,940 That's a really, really nice blasted glass back. 104 00:07:13,940 --> 00:07:18,020 Speaking of glass backs, they both do wireless charging with the pro doing 23 watts 105 00:07:18,020 --> 00:07:22,180 and the non-pro doing 18 watts, which is a little slower than what they do over a wire, 106 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:27,540 but not that much. I mean, that's within striking distance, which is not bad. 107 00:07:27,540 --> 00:07:33,020 Both phones get Wi-Fi seven and they get this new class three biometric face unlock, 108 00:07:33,020 --> 00:07:36,540 which is still just face unlock, 109 00:07:36,580 --> 00:07:40,740 except instead of needing an array of sensors, they're able to do class three 110 00:07:40,740 --> 00:07:45,220 with just the front-facing camera. Kind of ironic given that one of the controversies 111 00:07:45,220 --> 00:07:48,380 around this phone is the blurriness of the front-facing camera. 112 00:07:48,380 --> 00:07:52,900 Okay, we'll look at the camera in a second. First, I wanna just try setting up that facial unlock. 113 00:07:53,980 --> 00:07:54,820 Let's start. 114 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:03,780 That was it? Wow, that was, 115 00:08:04,180 --> 00:08:08,140 it's pretty fast. 116 00:08:08,140 --> 00:08:11,380 I'm still not a huge fan. I'd still rather just use a fingerprint. 117 00:08:11,380 --> 00:08:15,260 If I'm gonna have to touch the screen anyway, okay, let's see how fast the fingerprint is. 118 00:08:15,260 --> 00:08:17,140 Let's try fingerprint unlock. Boom. 119 00:08:18,780 --> 00:08:23,100 But, but, I'll have to wake it first, really? 120 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:25,100 Okay, it should wake when I pick it up though. 121 00:08:30,500 --> 00:08:33,420 Blah, I mean, maybe that was an outlier. Outlier, right? 122 00:08:34,140 --> 00:08:37,700 Okay. I am on the thing. 123 00:08:40,540 --> 00:08:44,740 Oh, that's, that's, oh, that's terrible. 124 00:08:44,740 --> 00:08:48,340 Okay, it's fast when it decides to finally start actually reading it. 125 00:08:49,340 --> 00:08:52,620 Physically, aside from the camera bump, I mean, there's not a lot to say. 126 00:08:52,620 --> 00:08:55,780 Lock button, volume rocker, USB-C port, 127 00:08:55,780 --> 00:08:59,340 got some speakers on there, sim card, 128 00:08:59,340 --> 00:09:02,900 and yeah, all the same things, but smaller. 129 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:06,900 And overall, the theme kind of feels like, yeah, it's better than last gen, 130 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:09,980 but we didn't really think outside the box on this one, 131 00:09:09,980 --> 00:09:13,260 which incidentally is the theme of this message from our sponsor. 132 00:09:13,260 --> 00:09:16,780 Hey, press power button twice to open up the camera. Love it. 133 00:09:16,780 --> 00:09:20,180 Can you also switch lens? Nope. 134 00:09:20,180 --> 00:09:24,460 That is not how this one works. That just doesn't do anything. 135 00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:29,340 You still got some things to learn from your old Powell Samsung. 136 00:09:29,340 --> 00:09:33,060 Double click. Okay, it's a note nine. 137 00:09:33,060 --> 00:09:38,260 It's pretty slow. Double click. Ooh, selfie camera, what's up? 138 00:09:38,260 --> 00:09:42,140 Oh, that's sick. It tells you up your level? 139 00:09:42,140 --> 00:09:45,380 Shut up. Oh, yeah, that's not me. Yeah, no, I believe you. 140 00:09:45,380 --> 00:09:50,180 Like I said, I haven't daily to pixel them forever. I mean, it's not the kind of thing that I would need, 141 00:09:50,180 --> 00:09:54,140 but that idiot I had my camera to when I'm on the Las Vegas strip or whatever, 142 00:09:54,140 --> 00:09:58,980 and I just want to get a picture with the wife, and they're like, oh, yeah, I have a, 143 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:02,180 I don't know, it seems pretty good. Really? 144 00:10:02,180 --> 00:10:06,340 Eyes closed in the picture, James? I don't know what you're doing. He's like napping over here. 145 00:10:06,340 --> 00:10:11,060 Naturally, it's flipping sharp, even shooting directly into a light. 146 00:10:11,060 --> 00:10:18,020 It's kind of shocking how much detail it retains, and I can even see things that my own eyes can't make out. 147 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:21,540 Start. Oh, interesting. 148 00:10:21,540 --> 00:10:26,140 That's cool. It prompted a fingerprint scan in order to start screen recording. 149 00:10:26,140 --> 00:10:29,620 I actually kind of like that. Now, with the Pixel 8, 150 00:10:29,620 --> 00:10:34,220 I would expect the main shooter to behave in pretty much exactly the same way, 151 00:10:34,220 --> 00:10:37,900 all the way down to James having his eyes closed. Thank you very much for that. 152 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:41,740 Oh, that's funny. It's trying to boost the completely covered lens 153 00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:47,940 that is face down on this mouse pad, LTTstore.com by the way, into something usable. 154 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:49,340 Okay, can Night Sight do it? 155 00:10:51,060 --> 00:10:54,140 No. At least it knows it can't do it though. 156 00:10:54,140 --> 00:10:59,440 While they both have the same 50 megapixel main camera, the 8 has a 12 megapixel ultra-wide, 157 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,960 while the 8 Pro has a 48 megapixel ultra-wide 158 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,520 and a 48 megapixel 5x telephoto lens. 159 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:12,800 So theoretically, you should be able to, oh wow, 5x is a frickin' lot. 160 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,800 And what's really cool is not only are you getting a high resolution secondary sensor, 161 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,200 you're also getting advanced features like optical image stabilization. 162 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,360 So unlike older phones where, sure, 163 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,200 you have these secondary cameras, but realistically, you're better off just taking a shot with your main one 164 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,200 and then zooming in on it, you may actually be better off using your telephoto. 165 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:40,960 Like this looks really sharp. That is definitely, without question, 166 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,200 way sharper than what I would have if I just zoomed this in. 167 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,520 Not even close. I'm moving a bit. 168 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,640 Shake it baby. That's not bad. 169 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:58,240 It's definitely a little bit jello and it, it's kind of sticky, especially in 5x. 170 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,720 Do you know what I mean by sticky? Ooh, it's sticky in 1x too. 171 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,520 I can see what it's trying to do. It tries to kind of, 172 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,240 it seems like use an outer part of the sensor 173 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,360 to kind of compensate a little bit when I'm moving and then slowly catch up 174 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,880 once it figures out that my movement was intentional. 175 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,920 Obviously, this is just a quick and dirty test, but I can already tell 176 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,880 this screen is anywhere near color accurate. What it's recording is not. 177 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,800 And the iPhone is still gonna be king for video for another generation or two. 178 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,960 But I wanted to talk about the selfie camera, right? 179 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,640 Let's try it on both of them. That's interesting. I hit the shutter and made movement. 180 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,960 It didn't actually make the click until later in the movement, but it was blurry. 181 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,520 So it started capturing stuff for sure. On the subject of blurry, 182 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,800 I gotta say I feel like there might be a little bit of user error here 183 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,840 because that seems like a perfectly sharp selfie camera 184 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,200 to me. And it's kind of ironic because if they sharpened it too much, 185 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,200 they might end up in the same kind of controversy hot water that Apple's in right now with people saying, 186 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,800 oh, my selfies look so ugly on the iPhone 15 Pro. 187 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,700 It's too sharp. I was hoping to play around with some of the, 188 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:19,680 some of the tools for editing photos, but it looks like maybe some of that's pending. 189 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:23,520 We're recording this a little early. But there are some other things that were like that. 190 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:29,400 The temperature sensor on the 8 Pro, for example, didn't work until an update that we got this morning. 191 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:35,240 Google advertises their thermometer as being able to be used to check the temperature of everyday objects. 192 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,320 It is a little limited in that you need to be within 193 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,400 five centimeters or two inches of whatever it is 194 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,920 that you're trying to measure. But hey, here, let's grab a temperature reading from, 195 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,320 oh wow, not two inches, that is really close. From this box, 22.9 degrees Celsius. 196 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,480 Okay, that seems kind of believable. Let's validate that with a professional 197 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:01,240 grade thermal camera now. The FLIR camera says 23.7. 198 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,360 Okay, yeah, that's within a degree. I'd say that's pretty, oh, and it also depends 199 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,920 where on the box we're measuring. Let's try, oh, let's try skin, my skin temperature. 200 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,040 Okay, 34 degrees Celsius. 201 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,640 Here we go. Sorry guys, I just gotta check my temperature real quick. 202 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,800 Now, obviously these aren't using exactly the same method 203 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,960 for recording temperature, but I mean, 204 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,800 it's consistent at least. I don't know how useful that is. 205 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,560 But hey, I mean, we weren't sure how useful the accelerometer would be in the iPhone, 206 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,560 and here we are. Oh my God. 207 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Just call it sRGB or like, allow me to set a white point. 208 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,800 This sucks. It's not loud yet, I haven't turned it up yet. 209 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,920 But that really does seem like unusually good imaging. 210 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,520 Max volume, obvious distortion. 211 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,160 Before max volume though. 212 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,240 Actually not bad. Not the best I've heard. 213 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,440 Not bad at all. How's the smaller pixelate though? 214 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Mix a really big difference exactly how you hold it, 215 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,240 but I'd be perfectly happy with either of those. One thing I would like to say still is, 216 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,640 man, I do wish that you could get the eight in the bigger size 217 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,680 or the eight pro in the smaller size, because man, this is a lot more handle-able for me, 218 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,920 but I feel like especially having seen 219 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,120 what this camera is capable of, I would be very tempted. 220 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,720 The ultra-wide, for example, also has optical image stabilization 221 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,760 and better autofocus now, like Trey's compelling. 222 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,920 Trey's subscribed to ShortCircuit, and I'll see you in the next one.