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ah the Sun the Beloved Source of Life on our planet but also deadly it causes

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cancer evaporates our water and worst of all makes it hard for me to read my

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screen or at least it used to this

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monitor from Sun Vision display is the brightest we have ever seen it has no

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backlight allowing it to draw just 6 watts of power and measuring over 2200

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knits look at how it has Les direct

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sunlight compared to a traditional display in fact the more sunlight there

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is the more powerful it becomes but

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there is a small catch because you see the less sunlight there is the uh less

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powerful it becomes but unlike your phone it's not using a sensor to adjust

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its output and the trick lies in the panel technology itself and I'll tell

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below the name of the brand sunvision

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display might give you your first clue as to how this monitor works but it's

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not solar powered at least not in the way that you think I already said it

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doesn't have a backlight so all right lus it's a self aiss of OLED then no

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more like no le in fact it uses an LCD

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panel but unlike the ones you're used to it has no backlight of any kind it

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doesn't even have a front light like this eink monitor from dasung which

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seems kind of crazy in 2024 but it isn't

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exactly new the Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance both used LCD displays that

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weren't lit so how did we see anything on those they were

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reflective just behind the display layer was a mirror likee layer that reflected

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ambient light back to you and this monitor operates on the same principle

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overall I'd say the specs are not the Highlight here it's 32 in 1080P so the

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pixel density is a little on the low side for our Modern Display it's 60 HZ

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it has curiously dual HDMI inputs but no

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DisplayPort and then it has a usba a

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port for charging that's a little weird

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I mean built-in hubs we've seen that before charging not so much it has

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built-in speakers vase mounting holes old school behind the monitor so you

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can't see the labels navigation and the pixel response times are rated at 10

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milliseconds really 2/3 of a frame just

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to finish the transition let's give it a shot but not here let's take it to its

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natural habitat given we normally test

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displays in near blackness in order to prevent ambient light from affecting our

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measurements we had to get a little creative in order to test this thing

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luckily we were graced with a bright sunny day so we brought the monitor

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outside to see it in its ideal environment at 100% window size meaning

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basically the full screen is entirely white this hits over 2200 nits that is

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truly impressive but here's something to think about a white piece of paper in

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that same sunlight measured nearly

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24,000 nits so there's clearly a massive

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amount of light that's being lost before it's reflected back to our eyes with

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that said it's still vastly more readable than pretty much any other

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display that we could bring outside so is there a use case for this

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thing sure no a boat a boat that doesn't get wet

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it's not IP rated and while it does a great job of maintaining the readability

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of text under very challenging conditions you'll notice that as soon as

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you bring up pretty much anything else it um doesn't look that good it's not

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because it uses a different panel technology like the e in that we checked

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out recently it's an LCD like any other

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so what is up with that well for starters the rated contrast is just 25

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to1 and under our test conditions we measured under that yikes for reference

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guys even without any backlight dimming tricks a typical IPS display these days

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would be rated to about a, to one with VA being about five times that and OLED

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panels more like a million to one

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however it's worth noting that you can have the best contrast ratio in the

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world but if your Peak brightness is well below the Environmental conditions

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your eyes which are adjusted for sunlight are not going to be able to

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perceive that contrast I mean okay here

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here this is a perfect example look at my OLED phone right A Million To One my

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so the disadvantage for our rlcd is that

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it can't really darken or boost its brightness relative to its environment

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but kind of like a book what it can do is reflect the conditions of its

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environment which keeps it within a usable range for your eyes

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so to illustrate this right here looks

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black but when we measured it we found that it was over 100 nits which to put

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in perspective is brighter than what would have been white on the CRT

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monitors in my school computer lab as a kid another disadvantage that stems from

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reflecting environmental light is that the display's color performance is also

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impacted by factors like time of day and

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weather if you were using the this on a patio for instance the color temperature

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of the display would change with the rising and setting of the sun I mean

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you're probably not going to notice this since your eyes and your brain have god

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tier Auto white balance but this lack of consistency means that this thing is

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functionally useless for color sensitive work and even if it was accurate enough

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the color gamut wouldn't be it managed just

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177% of the srgb color space which

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doesn't make sense I mean if you're feeding it direct sunlight which is you

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know all of the colors why doesn't it

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all those colors back out into your eyes well actually that's kind of the problem

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it does here's a keyboard towel from LTT Store.com clean yourself up the thing is

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if you want to make specific colors you don't want a full spectrum light Cannon

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you want fine control over specific wavelengths so a normal mon spectral

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distribution has very acute Peaks for green red and blue but the diffuse

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spectral power distribution of sunlight means you can't get pure green very

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easily combine that with the lack of brightness needed to create some colors

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and you've got a recipe for bad color accuracy and I promise you guys digging

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around in the comically bad onscreen display is not going to fix it maybe

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gaming is good no well you can certainly

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play games they aren't even sugar coating how not ideal it is even for a

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60hz display the rated 10 milliseconds

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of pixel response time means that any fast-paced motion is going to be

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noticeably smear to the eye and we found the input latency was best described as

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gnarly um it wasn't easy to get a number that's comparable to our other testing

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because our latency tester needs to be mounted to the display and uh

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inconveniently blocked this one from outputting anything at

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all so then you've heard a lot of arguments for not buying the sunvision

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rlcd display maybe you're ready for why

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it exists well it was a

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sign no not that kind this kind

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sunvision display specializes in using this technology in applications like

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digital signage where honestly it makes a ton of sense I mean how cool would it

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be to have your food truck or your golf course weather report be readable in

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basically any real world conditions and this is all while consuming a tiny

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fraction of the power of a regular display that's pretty cool and business

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seems to be going pretty good for them so good in fact that some folks started

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buying their signage products to use with their computers and well the

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customer's always right right so they

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made this except

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sometimes the customer isn't right the re monitor is heavily marketed towards

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people who suffer from computer vision syndrome and while CVS does exist it's

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one of those things where the Nuggets of good information are often buried in

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mountains of marketing nonsense and pseudo science for example sunvision

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talks about blue light emissions but as we mentioned in our eink monitor review

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there isn't strong evidence that blue light emitted from a screen is harmful

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at all and when we look at a spectrogram

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we can see that because this monitor's back light is effectively a mirror that

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is bouncing back broadspectrum sunlight

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this thing reflects more blue light towards you then a regular monitor would

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emit uh just so you can actually see what we're doing on the monitor we're

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going to try and give it enough light to like look like

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anything unless happen to use lights that are this bright the re monitor is

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just not a good experience indoors it's

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usable in a typical office but here go ahead and hit it it's really not bright

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and well you probably won't need dark mode if you happen to be a dark mode

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kind of person the lack of contrast can make distinct Shades of Gray disappear

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faster than a book about gender in a Florida library and this is a real

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problem in a 300 Lux office environment

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this achieves just 5.2 nits for contrast

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pun intended a white sheet of paper is

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90 nits so why are we getting under 10%

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of the amount of reflected light compared to this it comes down to the

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way the panel is made each of the individual pixels consists of a mirror a

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transistor and a 10 micromet surrounding

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Gap the problem is that the Gap part is

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non-reflective and with their current manufacturing capabilities it's non

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shrinkable so under a microscope only about 80% of the surface area of the

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display is reflective at all and even the parts that are reflective have to

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deal with a lot of loss have you ever taken apart a regular Monitor and

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noticed how flipping bright the backlight is compared to the final image

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well that's because every layer of a display including po izing filters the

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glass the diffusers there's more layers than You' think and all of them are

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lossy and in our reflective display

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light has to travel through all of those layers not once but twice so to even

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achieve the brightness that they have sunvision had to compromise on pixel

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density optimizing their mirror to Gap ratio and they had to go with a color

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filter that allows more light through but compromises color saturation

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we were curious if this was also the reason that they left off having a front

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light which might have improved indoor usability but at the expense of probably

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needing yet another diffusion layer when we asked sunvision though it turns out

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that it was because their customers said they wouldn't use it and didn't want it

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which is fair enough I guess since if I can afford one of these I can also

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afford a waterfront property with floor to ceiling Windows to let the sun shine

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through on it even on special for

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$1,499 this thing ain't cheap which

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would bother me less if it wasn't for the budget feeling build quality I mean

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admittedly I have no idea what the margins are like on a niche product like

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this obviously they aren't making that many of them but even dasung was able to

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produce what felt like a more complete package for their e in display that

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being said if you can afford it and you absolutely must not have a backl in your

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monitor I think I would recommend this one over

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an e in display thanks to its better Motion Performance and that would be

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especially true if they do a V2 that has some kind of flicker-free LED front

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light as it is now

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though I think I'll stick to regular monitors you can get some absolutely

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one we did on dung's E in monitor they have a second gen now right uh they have

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the full color yeah oo full color we're going to do a video on that soon right

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sure yeah