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it is very rare that we talk about a controller because they're kind of all

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the same and this is the first one in the long time that has a feature that I

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have not seen before oh it is the Turtle

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Beach stealth pivot and let me show you what that

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means pivot it's a different

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controller yes this controller's gimmick is that there is two sets of buttons and

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analog sticks that you can rotate between depending on the genre of game

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you're playing uh and what I've generally found is that gimmicks suck

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when you do a weird unique thing it's rare that that is done well at least the

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first time and so I've been excited to

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look at this and dreading it a little bit because Turtle Beach doesn't

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necessarily have the best reputation they're kind of the cheap uh headset

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maker for Xboxes and ps5s however first

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impression this is a nice controller holy crap it is chunky the shape of the

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body is very thick because it has to be able to fit you know the pivoting

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modules the Plastics feel premium although I'm not necessarily a huge fan

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of the kind of extreme gamer uh accents

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I think it's makes sense when you're selling a premium controller but I

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prefer just simple quality Plastics uh that are uniform so that the hand kind

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of just feels normal everywhere in its default configuration it's very much

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like an Xbox controller to analog sticks that are hall effect uh which is very

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nice if you don't know what that is instead of using potentiometers that rub against each other and wear down and

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cause uh stick drift longterm hall effect use magnets to detect its

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position and a spring to reenter the stick and so theoretically it shouldn't

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drift long term although the Springs can have their own set of issues but generally speaking you want hall effect

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you have your d-pad which is fine it's adequate for

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the kind of game you would play with a joystick next to it face buttons that

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are very traditional membrane feeling on

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the front we have where our screen will be if you've ever looked down at your

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controller and wish we got a screen this is the controller for you you the three

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people that have thought that we have our start select I don't care what they

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call them now they're still starting select to me down here we have our input

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Focus button I'm not sure what that does but we will Discover it when we play with the software in the middle here we

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have our quick slide dial that you can assign to different functions like uh

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changing your volume to chat mix or just changing your volume and whatnot uh here

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that looks like a share button so pretty standard configuration other than the

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screen and the quick slide button on the front on the top we have shoulder button

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triggers but we also have these trigger stops which is actually a pretty killer

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feature if you're someone who plays competitive games basically what that

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does when it's not activated you have a full trigger travel all the way down and

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when you activate it it's a much shorter travel so in a game where you're

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constantly pulling the trigger and you want to have the fastest Reaction Time possible you won't have to travel quite

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as far I like actually having my aim down button be the full travel and then

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the trigger button just being a little clicky click on the back we have

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programmable buttons one on each side as well as our locks for the pivot modules

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you'll notice when you want to Pivot it yet you have to twist these down I don't

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love the way that you have to rotate the sticks every time you want to Pivot it

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it feels like that's going to be a point of failure long term for the controller

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I might be wrong um but where everything else is rated in millions of clicks and

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presses I expect that to be a much lower number for the amount of times you can

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twist that stick before it starts to do some wonky things and in terms of

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General button feel it feels pretty nice

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the sticks have a decent amount of resistance to them they're not the kind of really cheap light controller uh

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although I've definitely felt heavier sticks d-pad feels okay face buttons

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feel pretty nice all the little buttons feel fine the bumpers feel like a very

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small amount of rubber kind of going in it feels small and precise and clicky in

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a way that's good but it doesn't feel as satisfying as I felt on other

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controllers definitely not bad that kind of differenti will definitely be a

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preference thing the triggers are quite nice at full travel it doesn't feel like

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they go very far but with the Hair Stop triggers it actually doesn't feel that

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different they definitely feel quality and the shape of them is quite nice I

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like the texture on it too um overall

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yeah quite a premium controller definitely for chunky hands um oh I

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missed something look a headphone jack

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big fan of headphone jacks on controllers when I play on a PC I'm

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often playing with the wired headphones uh and have having the ability to be

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further away from my desk but still use my wired headphones big plus but that's

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all the buttons on the regular configuration side let's see how it

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feels on this side buttons feel exactly the

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same they feel like the resistance is a little bit different like the a button

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feels like it's harder to press than whatever this customizable button is

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this d-pad way better on this side it makes sense on this side that it's kind

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of a more premium d-pad as it's a primary input method it's one of those

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old Sega feeling ones where it's a big disc instead of the the plus sign it

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feels very precise very clicky you can even probably hear

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it the flipping feels pretty good you can definitely over rotate it which is a

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little bit worrisome uh for the reliability I think it's something

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you're going to want to be careful on but there's kind of a satisfying click

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when it lands in its correct spot trying to see if there's any give even when

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it's locked I don't know if you can see it but the whole module is moving a

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little bit when I press the d-pad not ideal and it doesn't feel like

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the whole thing's a big mushy mess it's definitely the kind of compromise you have to make for a gimmick of this sort

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overall quite premium feeling buttons uh and I'm quite satisfied and I would be

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pretty happy to play on this in your box you'll also have a USB cable on the box

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it says 3 m on the website it says 2.5 M

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we seem to have lost ours in the uh bustle of the LTT video that this is

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going to be in uh so you you keep be on the lookout for that you also get your

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dongle which is my preferred way to play pretty simple this one has a pairing

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button which is interesting uh not much left to do but plug this thing and test

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is USB type-c which is nice very

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standard these days uh but people seem to still find ways to mess things up so

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you can also see that you can charge and play it at the same time something you think is common but it is not

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Universal the sticks seem to be pretty good let's test the

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circularity

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oops about 133% Circle error on the

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sticks that's not horrible out of the box that's not ideal but you can

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calibrate it using this Nifty screen so let's dive into the features of this

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screen first screen you get kind of an overview of your settings uh you can

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create your profiles we can configure our four buttons either our back buttons

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or the blue buttons that were in the top right corner Corner um I'm more

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interested in these back paddles realistically what I want to do is have

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this be the left and right clicks I find that's a good thing for it it's a little

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bit confusing because this isn't mirrored uh just think about it for a

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second you'll get there I believe in you okay we can change our slider uh right

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now it's volume but we could change our mic monitor up down our mic mute game

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chat and our EQ I'm going to leave it at

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volume one thing that I would improve in the next version of the software is when

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I press stuff it would show me what I'm pressing

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on screen just so that I can be fully aware of the stuff that's happening

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that's nice you can reassign one of the analog sticks to the d-pad um so if

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you're playing a retro Style game that doesn't have d-pad support for some

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reason you could actually Force the game to use your d-pad uh for that that's

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actually quite nice sticks left stick Dead Zone get out of

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here I'm buy hall effect sticks to have

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freaking Dead Zone what the heck is this oh yeah so you can

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see the shape of the circle I'm all the

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way to the edge of the circle of the analog stick and it doesn't follow the

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circle perfectly it goes beyond the bounds of the circle so it shows you

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that's where the circularity is that's the kind of error that you're not really

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going to notice especially cuz it's pretty uh symmetrical across the whole

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controller Spectrum we have trigger dead

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zones now that's nice uh again that's not really what I'm

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doing here if I was playing like a racing Sim maybe I'd want to like only

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have the pedal activate once I'm a little bit in it's definitely a preference thing there's actually is

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some games that don't have dead zones built into their interpretation of X

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input and sometimes it feels weird and so having the option to add Dead Zone

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not a bad thing what the is super human

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hearing we have different eqs signature sound which I'm guessing is probably

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just like a little bit of a base boost there's a big b base boost there's a

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base and treble boost so probably just a vshape where you lose the mids and a

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voice boost which is probably the opposite uh the mids being boosted a

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little bit it is nice to know that they put a little bit of effort into the

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audio coming out of a controller I've put headphones into controllers that

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have the worst Dack I've ever heard in the entire world and I imagine this one

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won't be the worst and then we have RGB

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this is the smallest amount of RGB I didn't even notice this RGB which is

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probably a good thing if you don't like the sensation of the vibration you can

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control it pretty granularly okay we can

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calibrate our controller that's quite

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nice is it actually calibrating or is it just testing

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it it doesn't seem to be doing anything okay yeah that's uh adequate software it

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doesn't do anything unexpected but uh it does what I need it

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to do other than control this light

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which is weird there's another feature that we're trying to get working but seems to be uh having a little bit of

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issue with the software and that is a pro a mode where you toggle it and it

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changes the sensitivity so you can snipe better um I don't think that that's

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really an important feature for people I feel like that's one of those check the

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box as a feature sort of things but if you're someone that does like switching

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sensitivities for your six mid game let me know I do that for my uh my mice

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sometimes so maybe you're doing it for your controllers let's play a game the

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vibration is bad I don't like the vibration of this control at all it feels and sounds

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weird just like a wimpy that's a very precise stick I can

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feel it's very responsive now that I've turned off The Dead Zone on the uh in

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the game these feel very good I'm going to be very bad cuz I don't play many

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shooters with a controller but the issues are not with

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the controller they're with me I can tell you right now this feels like a

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very good controller I'm going to set the hair trigger you lose a little bit

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of immersion especially on something like the bo check which is is a bow and you know has like a big

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pull I don't think there is vibration in the triggers there's not it's certainly

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not resistive or adaptive like the PS5 ones where they push back against you

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depending on the game even though this game does support that and there's no

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vibration which is a feature not everyone cares about I've kind of come

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to love it this is a pretty solid controller it is kind of gimmicky but

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it's it feels very premium and I've kind of forgotten that there even is another

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side these triggered feel good the sticks feel good uh let's go into a game

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where we're going to test out the d-pad and the face buttons a little bit more

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oh yeah I forgot that there's a screen on this thing you hit the quick start button and then uh you can go through

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your social alerts I'm guessing you connect that to Discord and it'll pop up

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there that uh not a cool feature like it's one of

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those things where they're like we need to add more to this controller to justify its price uh I don't think I

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care about my controller having the

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latest messages for me that's what my second monitor is for and if you're

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buying this and don't have a second monitor that's a weird way to spend your

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money to be honest it's not a cheap controller we'll get to that d-pad

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mapping slider mapping so you can do the stuff that you're doing in the software

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uh in game if you lose connection you can reconnect using that all right time

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to test the other side yo this d-pad is fire though I

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haven't played on a controller where I thought the d-pad was

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better than adequate in a long time I

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really like this side's d-pad the other side as mid as everything else really

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precise really clear what I'm pressing it doesn't feel like there's going to be

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accidental presses we're here in Street Fighter 6 yeah it's really easy with

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this d-pad to know exactly what I'm pressing it's very clicky very tactile

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although this is clearly not the Esports way to play a fighting game this is a

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pretty dang good way especially because

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in just a couple seconds you're back to the traditional

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way it feels a little bit cheap to me that they have a really good controller

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on one side and kind of a mid one on this side I can't imagine it's that

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expensive to manufacture that d-pad um

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but I guess every penny counts Turtle Beach if you're playing

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wirelessly they claim you get about 20 hours of battery which is great uh

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someone who plays on a PS5 I'm used to like uh three on a good day uh and so 20

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is a pretty acceptable amount just charge it every couple play sessions uh

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we haven't talked about the different connectivity modes there's obviously Wireless either over dongle or Bluetooth

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you can do wired and you need to do wired if you're doing it on an Xbox um

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which is a bit of a shame you can use it with Android so you can actually use it with a TV which is uh interesting as

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more and more uh game streaming services are offering TV apps like I noticed at

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the game awards yesterday Microsoft is pivoting what Xbox branding means like

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their their whole new thing is that you know your phone is an Xbox your TV is an

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Xbox because it can stream Game Pass and so this will work with that and this

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would be a great controller for that I think overall this is quite a nice

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controller especially for something that's so gimmicky I'm quite impressed

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with how it feels and how it plays uh and I have no real complaints except the

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price this controller costs

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$130 that's not the most you can spend on a controller but it's far from the

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the least and in an era where there is

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really good $30 controllers it can be a little bit hard

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to justify spending $130 on a controller

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that is very good uh but I don't think is better than two separate controllers

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that does what this does when you compare it to the elites of the world

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this is actually a $50 savings and I think this is way better than a Xbox

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Elite controller uh and the fact that it's hall effect sticks means that they

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should last you longer um but there's a

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bunch of controller Brands out there that you may not have heard of that make

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really freaking good controllers and we're doing some kind of Roundup on LTT

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that you'll want to uh keep your eye out for and it might not have all the

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features but it's if you're looking for just like a no-nonsense controller

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there's other options but if you're someone who wants one controller that

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can do it all this is really good and it is not really compromising in any

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meaningful way and I feel like I can recommend this controller

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um without any real hesitation you look at the price if that's in your range

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this is a pretty sweet candidate just like uh you're a pretty sweet candidate

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for watching this video thanks for watching ShortCircuit if you like this video why don't you check out another

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one where I do something