{"video_id":"bqlNSt19F9o","title":"You (don't) get what you pay for - AYANEO Kun","channel":"ShortCircuit","show":"ShortCircuit","published_at":"2024-05-04T14:58:16Z","duration_s":1018,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":4.8,"text":"Ionio has been making some very cool but very expensive handhelds over the last few years.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":4.8,"end_s":11.84,"text":"And now we've got the Quinn, which their touting is a high-end top-tier mobile gaming device.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":11.84,"end_s":18.56,"text":"And holy crap, I am not talking price yet, but it comes in a wooden box. Look at how beautiful","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":18.56,"end_s":23.36,"text":"this is. Look, you get this like text. This is Ionio Quinn. It's got an OB strip that we're","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":23.36,"end_s":29.68,"text":"going to try to get off here. Oh man, this is beautiful. This is probably one of the nicest","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":29.76,"end_s":35.28,"text":"unboxing experiences I've ever had. This just slides out and you can, I mean no one's going to do","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":35.28,"end_s":40.8,"text":"this. But you know, you could put it in your home somewhere. And then, oh, this is actually just like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":40.8,"end_s":44.96,"text":"a little background of mountains. Okay, you know what? Don't put the acrylic up somewhere, but this","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":44.96,"end_s":51.12,"text":"is like a nice little scenic mountain range kind of deal. Oh my god, there's more. Okay, I haven't","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":51.12,"end_s":60.16,"text":"even looked at the console yet because instead we've got this what? What? Wondering, boundless and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":60.16,"end_s":72.48,"text":"free. Oh wow, this is long. Oh, and then on the back is a bunch of like instructions or something.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":72.48,"end_s":78.0,"text":"Say what you will about the rest of the console. This packaging is incredible. We've just got a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":78.0,"end_s":83.76,"text":"little diagram here for like where our home button is. Okay, well that's that. I thought this was","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":83.76,"end_s":87.84,"text":"like a second booklet, but it's really just a piece of foam for our console. But then there's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":87.84,"end_s":93.28,"text":"another little paper sheet here. What's in this? We got our Aya space 2.0 instruction manual. That's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":93.28,"end_s":98.4,"text":"just the software that they used in the handheld custom software. And then we've got three other","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":98.4,"end_s":103.36,"text":"little boxes here. This is probably the charging brick if I had to guess. Real gamers, no gamers.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":104.16,"end_s":110.96,"text":"Aya is a real gamer. GAN 100 watt fast charger. Okay, that's actually pretty sick. That's a bit","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":110.96,"end_s":116.48,"text":"more than your standard 65 watt GAN charger that other handolds are coming with. And we have two","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":116.48,"end_s":122.32,"text":"other boxes. What's in this? Cables, wall adapters. Okay, so you're set wherever you go. Thanks, Aya.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":122.32,"end_s":126.56,"text":"This has got to be the cable. If this thing comes with a charger but no cable, I would be incredibly","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":126.56,"end_s":135.44,"text":"disappointed. And yes, it is in fact a C to C cable. That's a decently long charge cable too.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":135.44,"end_s":138.88,"text":"It's nothing too much like you're gonna have a little trouble if you want to sit on one end of","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":138.88,"end_s":144.24,"text":"the couch instead of the other. But whatever, that's fine. It also comes with two handy dandy USB-C","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":144.24,"end_s":152.16,"text":"to A cable adapters. And now for the console, this thing is huge. It's got an 8.4 inch screen.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":152.16,"end_s":160.72,"text":"It's 2560 by 1600. So you're getting a 16 by 10 aspect ratio. And it is heavy. How much do you weigh?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":161.44,"end_s":169.2,"text":"945 grams. They advertise 950 on their manufacturer's website. Give or take a few. That's fine. 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I know that a lot of people might, but for me personally,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":234.0,"end_s":238.32,"text":"it's really not an issue if they don't have the four buttons on the back. I never bought a pro","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":238.32,"end_s":243.36,"text":"controller or anything like that. Actually, what's this little open? Whoa, comes with a kickstand?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":243.36,"end_s":248.8,"text":"Oh, there's a micro SD card slot there. Nice. Okay, this is great. So while it might be really","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":248.8,"end_s":253.92,"text":"heavy, it does come with a kickstand, kind of like the Legion Go or the Switch OLED. 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And the three dots that T might be for IS-based turbo, maybe. And then","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":290.16,"end_s":295.36,"text":"we've got a little volume rocker on the top, power switch, USB-A. That's actually really","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":295.36,"end_s":299.92,"text":"surprising to see a USB-A port on this thing. One of the really cool things about these USB-C","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":299.92,"end_s":305.04,"text":"ports is that they're USB-4. And even if they're only Gen 1, they're going to be running at at","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":305.04,"end_s":310.56,"text":"least 40 gigabit per second. So you've got a lot of bandwidth to play with here. I also just really","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":310.64,"end_s":317.6,"text":"like this like silver, shiny exterior that it's got on the plastic. I don't know. It feels retro.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":318.4,"end_s":323.12,"text":"Who does a light silver like this anymore? I kind of dig it, though. It doesn't look like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":323.12,"end_s":327.6,"text":"there's a ton of visible screws. I know that previous INEOs weren't that hard to take apart.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":327.6,"end_s":331.36,"text":"We've got two on the bottom here. And then I'm guessing you take off this little rocker bar,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":331.36,"end_s":335.28,"text":"which is also a couple of switches. I pull that off, more screws, take it all apart.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":335.28,"end_s":340.0,"text":"Shouldn't be too hard. Previous ones weren't too bad. One thing that probably contributes to how","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":340.0,"end_s":346.72,"text":"heavy this is that I forgot to mention earlier is it's got a 75 watt hour battery, which is enormous.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":346.72,"end_s":351.68,"text":"The Legion Go has a 50 watt hour and then the Steam Deck and the ally are both something around 40.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":351.68,"end_s":359.2,"text":"That's 19,500 milliamp hours. It is a lot of juice. This thing is packing a 7840U from AMD,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":359.2,"end_s":364.72,"text":"which is similar to what the ally has and what a Legion Go is equipped with. The difference here","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":364.72,"end_s":371.68,"text":"that INEO has managed is that it can turbo up to 54 watts TDP, which is significantly higher than","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":371.68,"end_s":375.92,"text":"both of those other handhelds. So I'm really curious to see. I mean, it's going to drain the battery","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":375.92,"end_s":381.52,"text":"way faster, but I want to see just like how much performance you can really eke out of this 7840U.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":381.52,"end_s":388.16,"text":"So let's turn it on and give it a try. Whoa, INEO. It's got little specs. It's an IPS screen.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":388.16,"end_s":392.96,"text":"So it's okay. It's not an OLED like the Steam Deck OLED, but it hits like 500 nits supposedly.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":392.96,"end_s":396.24,"text":"It actually gets brighter than advertised, measuring around 600 nits. I want to check","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":396.24,"end_s":399.6,"text":"what the refresh rate and everything is. So I'm going to go into ispace. That's cool.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":399.6,"end_s":403.36,"text":"They've got their performance modes, but I don't like how it's like triple A game,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":403.36,"end_s":407.84,"text":"normally game, retro game. I guess that's easy for some people. Unlimited FPS. You can cap your","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":407.84,"end_s":413.92,"text":"FPS, which is a great feature. It's also got a little battery estimate here, two hours, 25 minutes,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":413.92,"end_s":418.24,"text":"but I think that says 18 watts. So it's a little hard to trust that upon further review.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":418.24,"end_s":422.88,"text":"Ispace has an option in the main program that has a title for CPU turbo, but it's disabled by","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":422.88,"end_s":428.56,"text":"default despite the 54 watts being a really big selling point. Brightness is cranked, airplane","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":428.56,"end_s":433.6,"text":"mode off, always off. And then the T for the T button. The T button is for the touchpad,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":433.6,"end_s":438.24,"text":"and it brings up a bunch of touchpad controls like gestures, click control, because yeah,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":438.24,"end_s":444.0,"text":"you can, you can click on them too, like buttons. Okay. So that's acting as like a most cursor left","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":444.0,"end_s":448.4,"text":"click or right click. Cool. Display settings. Perfect. Display settings. What are you running","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":448.48,"end_s":456.72,"text":"at? What's your refresh rate? 60 Hertz. Oh, okay. I'll admit I'm a little spoiled. 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And you need to like go to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":491.12,"end_s":496.56,"text":"Windows home screen to try to do whatever you need to do to force close the game. You can just swipe","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":496.56,"end_s":501.6,"text":"up and boom, it all tabs out for you, essentially. I've been playing a lot of Pacific Drive. I just","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":501.6,"end_s":506.08,"text":"want to see how it handles Pacific Drive. They claim it gets up to 500 nits. And frankly, it kind","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":506.08,"end_s":510.48,"text":"of seems like this thing gets really bright. That's another really easy way to save on battery life","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":510.48,"end_s":515.04,"text":"as well. If you don't have a handheld yet, like you can just turn this all the way down. And it's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":515.12,"end_s":524.56,"text":"still playable in low light. Do you hear that? That is loud.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":528.08,"end_s":534.08,"text":"54 watts, baby. Let's go. What I'm looking for is a camera if iSpace has a built in frame rate","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":534.08,"end_s":541.84,"text":"counter. It doesn't look like it. It is claiming to pull 50 watts, which is wild. CPU GPU 71C and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":541.84,"end_s":550.0,"text":"64C, if you believe their reader. 5400 RPM is what that fan is spinning at. And I believe it.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":550.0,"end_s":555.36,"text":"You know, this is why you've got headphones. You just drown out that fan. It's got Bluetooth 5.2","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":555.36,"end_s":560.96,"text":"as well if you don't have any old aux cable headphones anymore. This is chop. Let me let me","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":560.96,"end_s":565.84,"text":"change some let me change some in game settings here. One thing I'll note is I just went to pause","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":565.84,"end_s":570.8,"text":"the game and it felt very uncomfortable moving my thumb all the way down here to do so.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":571.84,"end_s":578.32,"text":"Almost all the other devices have their pause and options buttons like right here near the top.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":578.32,"end_s":585.92,"text":"Like why is the touchpad button that I'm going to use once every I don't know month or whatever","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":585.92,"end_s":590.88,"text":"way up here. It should be maybe down here or down here. I think they've just got too many buttons.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":590.88,"end_s":595.6,"text":"Here's your hamburger and like typical options button that you see in most consoles now.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":595.6,"end_s":601.04,"text":"This d-pad feels bad now that I'm using it to like actually use menus and stuff. It just feels","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":601.84,"end_s":606.16,"text":"I don't want an eight point touch d-pad built like this. I just want like four clear buttons","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":606.16,"end_s":611.04,"text":"then you can press two at the same time. That would be very preferable. It's not getting stuck","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":611.04,"end_s":616.32,"text":"or anything but it feels a little sticky and I definitely don't like the d-pad. I'll admit I","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":616.32,"end_s":620.48,"text":"haven't played this on my ally yet. 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It's hard though because like the speakers. I hit like a single","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":692.96,"end_s":699.76,"text":"object and the performance just tanked. That's not bad. Let's let's try CrabRave and like see","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":699.76,"end_s":705.52,"text":"how it is especially when the game is not running and so the fans aren't like just blasting YouTube.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":706.4,"end_s":710.72,"text":"I gotta say one of the really nice things about having this big 8.4 inch screen is that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":710.72,"end_s":717.36,"text":"using it as a Windows device feels okay. Like watching YouTube videos and everything. It feels","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":717.36,"end_s":724.8,"text":"like actually usable and full screen. Look at that. That's beautiful. 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It's got an OB strip that we're going to try to get off here. Oh man, this is beautiful. This is probably one of the nicest unboxing experiences I've ever had. This just slides out and you can, I mean no one's going to do this. But you know, you could put it in your home somewhere. And then, oh, this is actually just like a little background of mountains. Okay, you know what? Don't put the acrylic up somewhere, but this is like a nice little scenic mountain range kind of deal. Oh my god, there's more. Okay, I haven't even looked at the console yet because instead we've got this what? What? Wondering, boundless and free. Oh wow, this is long. Oh, and then on the back is a bunch of like instructions or something. Say what you will about the rest of the console. This packaging is incredible. We've just got a little diagram here for like where our home button is. Okay, well that's that. I thought this was like a second booklet, but it's really just a piece of foam for our console. But then there's another little paper sheet here. What's in this? We got our Aya space 2.0 instruction manual. That's just the software that they used in the handheld custom software. And then we've got three other little boxes here. This is probably the charging brick if I had to guess. Real gamers, no gamers. Aya is a real gamer. GAN 100 watt fast charger. Okay, that's actually pretty sick. That's a bit more than your standard 65 watt GAN charger that other handolds are coming with. And we have two other boxes. What's in this? Cables, wall adapters. Okay, so you're set wherever you go. Thanks, Aya. This has got to be the cable. If this thing comes with a charger but no cable, I would be incredibly disappointed. And yes, it is in fact a C to C cable. That's a decently long charge cable too. It's nothing too much like you're gonna have a little trouble if you want to sit on one end of the couch instead of the other. But whatever, that's fine. It also comes with two handy dandy USB-C to A cable adapters. And now for the console, this thing is huge. It's got an 8.4 inch screen. It's 2560 by 1600. So you're getting a 16 by 10 aspect ratio. And it is heavy. How much do you weigh? 945 grams. They advertise 950 on their manufacturer's website. Give or take a few. That's fine. For reference, the Steam Deck is what, 650 roughly? The ally is like 608. So this is hefty. And I don't know. It honestly feels pretty comfortable in my hands as is, but I don't know if I would feel comfortable holding it like on the bus for an extended gaming session. It's got an 8 point D pad, which I don't think feels amazing, but I don't honestly hate it either. A couple of thumb sticks and back triggers. These all for our hall effect, which is great. It means it'll be a little bit more reliable and you're not going to deal with stick drift as quickly. Looks like they've got touch pads here or something. I'm not sure we'll have to investigate once we turn it on. That's a big complaint from a lot of people is they like the Steam Deck's touch pads, but you don't have it on the ally. Triggers feel a little light. They're not the worst, but the bumpers aren't super satisfying. I'm a big fan of like Xbox 360 era bumpers that are like clicks. These are a little mushy. Not too bad though. Yeah, it's got four buttons on the back as well. I'll be frank. I never use these. I know that a lot of people might, but for me personally, it's really not an issue if they don't have the four buttons on the back. I never bought a pro controller or anything like that. Actually, what's this little open? Whoa, comes with a kickstand? Oh, there's a micro SD card slot there. Nice. Okay, this is great. So while it might be really heavy, it does come with a kickstand, kind of like the Legion Go or the Switch OLED. So if you do want to like grab a controller, hook it up through Bluetooth or even wired because it's got, looks like, yeah, both top and bottom USB-C ports, which is another huge plus. You can just game like this. No problem on an airplane or at home. If you know, you just want to game in the living room from your couch. That's really cool. Actually, really happy to see that. Close it for now. Face buttons feel, yeah, perfectly fine. They're a little small, but not too small. I don't know what this T button is. And the three dots that T might be for IS-based turbo, maybe. And then we've got a little volume rocker on the top, power switch, USB-A. That's actually really surprising to see a USB-A port on this thing. One of the really cool things about these USB-C ports is that they're USB-4. And even if they're only Gen 1, they're going to be running at at least 40 gigabit per second. So you've got a lot of bandwidth to play with here. I also just really like this like silver, shiny exterior that it's got on the plastic. I don't know. It feels retro. Who does a light silver like this anymore? I kind of dig it, though. It doesn't look like there's a ton of visible screws. I know that previous INEOs weren't that hard to take apart. We've got two on the bottom here. And then I'm guessing you take off this little rocker bar, which is also a couple of switches. I pull that off, more screws, take it all apart. Shouldn't be too hard. Previous ones weren't too bad. One thing that probably contributes to how heavy this is that I forgot to mention earlier is it's got a 75 watt hour battery, which is enormous. The Legion Go has a 50 watt hour and then the Steam Deck and the ally are both something around 40. That's 19,500 milliamp hours. It is a lot of juice. This thing is packing a 7840U from AMD, which is similar to what the ally has and what a Legion Go is equipped with. The difference here that INEO has managed is that it can turbo up to 54 watts TDP, which is significantly higher than both of those other handhelds. So I'm really curious to see. I mean, it's going to drain the battery way faster, but I want to see just like how much performance you can really eke out of this 7840U. So let's turn it on and give it a try. Whoa, INEO. It's got little specs. It's an IPS screen. So it's okay. It's not an OLED like the Steam Deck OLED, but it hits like 500 nits supposedly. It actually gets brighter than advertised, measuring around 600 nits. I want to check what the refresh rate and everything is. So I'm going to go into ispace. That's cool. They've got their performance modes, but I don't like how it's like triple A game, normally game, retro game. I guess that's easy for some people. Unlimited FPS. You can cap your FPS, which is a great feature. It's also got a little battery estimate here, two hours, 25 minutes, but I think that says 18 watts. So it's a little hard to trust that upon further review. Ispace has an option in the main program that has a title for CPU turbo, but it's disabled by default despite the 54 watts being a really big selling point. Brightness is cranked, airplane mode off, always off. And then the T for the T button. The T button is for the touchpad, and it brings up a bunch of touchpad controls like gestures, click control, because yeah, you can, you can click on them too, like buttons. Okay. So that's acting as like a most cursor left click or right click. Cool. Display settings. Perfect. Display settings. What are you running at? What's your refresh rate? 60 Hertz. Oh, okay. I'll admit I'm a little spoiled. I know that the 120 Hertz refresh rate on the ally and the Legion aren't like huge features for some people. Even the Steam Deck OLED is 90 Hertz now. 75 even really helps with that. Not input delay, but I don't know, just like hitchy kind of mouse look. And I don't like it. And it's a really minor complaint. But I know you pack this is supposed to be a high end top tier system with like a really good IPS screen. And you couldn't do more than 60 Hertz. I'm a little disappointed. It is a touchscreen. It's a really good feature for when games are broken. And you need to like go to Windows home screen to try to do whatever you need to do to force close the game. You can just swipe up and boom, it all tabs out for you, essentially. I've been playing a lot of Pacific Drive. I just want to see how it handles Pacific Drive. They claim it gets up to 500 nits. And frankly, it kind of seems like this thing gets really bright. That's another really easy way to save on battery life as well. If you don't have a handheld yet, like you can just turn this all the way down. And it's still playable in low light. Do you hear that? That is loud. 54 watts, baby. Let's go. What I'm looking for is a camera if iSpace has a built in frame rate counter. It doesn't look like it. It is claiming to pull 50 watts, which is wild. CPU GPU 71C and 64C, if you believe their reader. 5400 RPM is what that fan is spinning at. And I believe it. You know, this is why you've got headphones. You just drown out that fan. It's got Bluetooth 5.2 as well if you don't have any old aux cable headphones anymore. This is chop. Let me let me change some let me change some in game settings here. One thing I'll note is I just went to pause the game and it felt very uncomfortable moving my thumb all the way down here to do so. Almost all the other devices have their pause and options buttons like right here near the top. Like why is the touchpad button that I'm going to use once every I don't know month or whatever way up here. It should be maybe down here or down here. I think they've just got too many buttons. Here's your hamburger and like typical options button that you see in most consoles now. This d-pad feels bad now that I'm using it to like actually use menus and stuff. It just feels I don't want an eight point touch d-pad built like this. I just want like four clear buttons then you can press two at the same time. That would be very preferable. It's not getting stuck or anything but it feels a little sticky and I definitely don't like the d-pad. I'll admit I haven't played this on my ally yet. It is a bit more demanding even though it's just kind of an indie game. It's got a lot of effects so it looks really pretty. This is playable. This is probably like 30 maybe 40 FPS with some hitching every now and then. Part of the problem with Windows handhelds versus the Steam Deck with Steam OS is that you kind of run into problems like this where it's like no I tried to tell you to do full screen and then it's like okay but I don't want to do full screen because you're telling me to do 1280 by 720 so it's like okay cool let me change the Windows resolution to 1280 by 720 then relaunch the game then let it work. It doesn't happen in every title. A lot of them just work seamlessly. Okay that's a lot better. We changed Windows to 1280 by 800 and then we changed the game resolution to match that and then we turned everything to low and while this fan is still cranked like it is cruising the game performance is markedly improved and it's much more playable now. Yo this looks great. Turn my headlights on. I mean don't get me wrong game looks a lot worse when everything's set to low but in terms of just playability totally playable. Let's try the speakers out. Let's you know let's turn the volume up. Yeah this is totally fine. It's hard though because like the speakers. I hit like a single object and the performance just tanked. That's not bad. Let's let's try CrabRave and like see how it is especially when the game is not running and so the fans aren't like just blasting YouTube. I gotta say one of the really nice things about having this big 8.4 inch screen is that using it as a Windows device feels okay. Like watching YouTube videos and everything. It feels like actually usable and full screen. Look at that. That's beautiful. Screen covers 90% of DCI-P3. That's not bad. That's 50%. So they're bottom firing speakers coming out of these slots right here. Even though you kind of cover them up when you put them on the kickstand it doesn't really kill the volume which is really nice. I'd say they're adequate. Maybe a little worse than a full-fat laptop but you know they're not bad. It is wild that it lets you just turbo to 54 watts without a plugged in. The ally you need to be plugged in to do 35. Grab the controller and kick back. My brother and Christ I am holding what is a controller and a computer at the same time. Well this is actually really playable. I'm pretty sure I'm still at like uh 1600p to those fans. Returnal at 800p we're getting 42 average FPS and 30 at the 1% lows when we're using 54 watts. If we turn that down to 30 watts it hardly changes anything going to 40 and 28. Compared to our Legion Go though we're getting a 37 average so even at 30 watts it's beating it. What's surprising is that in some other games like Rocket League it doesn't always maintain that edge. For instance we're seeing a slightly higher frame rate on the Legion Go despite using more juice on the Ionio Quinn using the same processor. So take that for what you will. But overall performance is you know fine in the games that we tested. In our endurance testing setting this and the Legion Go to 200 nits it actually didn't do all that much better. In YouTube endurance testing we got seven hours out of both systems. Our combustor stress test gets a big DNF when you set it to 54 watts. For whatever reason it simply fails to complete the test despite the CPU only reaching about 75 degrees. For a prime 95 stress test at max brightness on 30 watts we're getting an hour in 29 minutes compared to our Legion Go which was hitting an hour 35. However we did notice that the CPU on the go was only drawing about 20 watts for most of the test. So that does account for the major difference in battery life here. One more thing that I failed to mention earlier is that the power button also has a fingerprint scanner if you like unlocking your device like that. And if you prefer facial recognition it's got a little camera right here. As for the price that's where things get a little iffy. If you want the 16 gigs of RAM with 512 gig SSD we are talking about over 1100 us dollars which is a lot. A Steam Deck is what like half of that. The Ally is half of that. The even the Legion Go is a similar price as the other two devices like Man it's it's hard. I would love to support a more indie developer like Aynio but they're also I mean they've been putting these out for a while now. So are they even indie? I don't know. It's it's hard to say. That's that's rough. And then if you want you can spend another hundred dollars and get the doubled capacity version of this guy with 32 gigs of RAM and one terabyte SSD. We're talking 100 bucks for literally doubling. It's totally worth it. I think at that point. Although to be frank I probably won't recommend this to any of my friends. Maybe if the 75 watt hour battery performed a little better than it did in our testing because then you'd have a pretty good argument right? That's that's the real big issue with a lot of handhelds is like it doesn't last that long. Steam Deck is probably the best especially when you're running it in low wattage but like the reality is with a lot of these things you're not going to get more than a couple hours out of them. Maybe three if you really push it for the most part. I prefer just keeping them plugged in and playing at the couch so for me the battery is not even an appeal. I want the lightest system I can get 945 grams. That's almost a kilo. It's really heavy honestly. And that's on top of the fact that Ionio hasn't always had the best customer service in the past as well. Even with this launch they've had some issues getting all the units to their customers. We had reports of the d-pad sticking and I'm not so sure that I would trust someone like that with $1200. Thanks so much for watching. Like, comment, subscribe. If you want to check out another one look at the Ionio slide. It's got a slide up screen with a keyboard underneath."}