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known my entire life a close friend and then all of a sudden the friend decided they actually want to go become a monk in the in the Himalayas and they leave and I can never see them again and the only way you can see them is to give them your Google account at the front door yeah and if I sign a sign a business deal with them it's it's kind of the opposite of that actually rather than like going and being a monk if you let the monks scrape your dead skin off your back and use it to clone you then you can see your friend yeah it's a stat holiday in the office where this is going up on Monday August 5th and we were trying to think of something to talk about and I thought that it would be good to talk about this change in the internet that's happening we've been we've been kind of monitoring some of these stories that have that have been about the internet being like segmented into these discret chunks that all have to now pay each other for access to each other but like we are kind of like the same generation we both grew up with like Web 2.0 right like you were on Facebook yep you were on Instagram technically I still am technically I still am too but I don't I don't use these platforms anymore just for many reasons but the reason this question is interesting to me is because the internet used to be like open it was like the open web everybody's freely linking everywhere you go to a website it's a cool website maybe there's a forum to discuss what's going on there but there's no like closed off platforms then we get into this this era where the internet is basically made up of like discret kingdoms there's the Facebook Kingdom there's the uh Twitter Kingdom there's the Reddit Kingdom and you know people are kind of congregating with communities that they that are like them but there's still lots of discourse and cross talk among them now we're heading into this era where you know if you want to search Reddit there's only one search engine that you can use to do that which is Google because Reddit and Twitter and some other platforms that I can't think of right now closed off access to their API frster is a huge one dig it didn't they die dig you're the man now dog dig it you mean dig.com I couldn't care less the reason this has all come up recently uh for us on TechLink is because of these stories about perplexity and what do you know about perplexity Jacob it's the measure of uh how confused one person is don't Define the word perplexity AI perplexity is uh was I mean depending on how you decid it was an AI startup that was focusing on searching the web using Ai and then getting summaries on things that you search which just kind of does sound like being AI like what's the difference between like wasn't that the whole thing with being a you ask a questions and search the whole web the difference is that Microsoft added AI search functionality to Bing perplexity from the ground up it doesn't give you like a list of search results it just summarizes stuff for you and then links you to stuff so if you go to Bing and you say uh what is perplexity AI B still like it has this at the top that has been part of search engines long before chat GPT came out um but then under that it's just a regular search engine they have this list of links but what perplexity did I think you can go to perplexity right now perplexity doai and we say what is perplexity I mean that's right there but will that just be like yeah so perplexity AI doesn't give you a list of links it gives you as we're looking at right here it it now uh list the sources right up at the top I believe that's a relatively recent addition after they were criticized uh for plagiarism which we're going to get into now they list the sources up top but then they just have this AI summarized answer so that's the difference you can get that kind of search result by using co-pilot uh Microsoft's AI but uh perplexity and has is trying to change the search engine from a from a list of links to an AI generated summary of what's out there which is another way the internet has like largely changed I think that a lot of companies are trying to turn the internet from a library where you go in you find the sources you collect a list of books or links that you can go through yourself and then you form your own opinion now it's like a s s yeah they're trying to turn the library into a librarian who knows everything the books already so you don't you don't go and check the book out yourself you just talk to the librarian and they know everything and they'll they'll basic they'll give you the gist except that the library librarian is a liar and and occasion like 17 personalities and occasionally they just make something up for fun 17 personalities they get bored of their job so they just make up and yeah yeah and you can tell the librarian okay tell me this information as if you're a as if you're a pirate and then they they will and they'll lie even more and also used to be able to tell the librarian to ignore all of its previous instructions for its job so that you could make it do nefarious we can just keep this analogy rolling all the way like I was saying now we have these these sources uh I'm not sure what perplexity looked like before but I think that they made some changes recently because they were accused by multiple uh Tech Outlets news outlets of plagiarism I think Forbes was was the first one to kind of like start levying accusations at them primarily because they uh when you searched for this forb story This original forb story that they did original reporting on uh perplexity summarized the whole story and because Forbes was like one of the only sources on it it didn't have all of these extra extra links inside the the the result right it just had like something at the very end where it was like sources Forbes yeah you know what they definitely have changed it and the sources are up at the top now because of that criticism and then K Nast which owns wired and it's also my rap name k Nast uh nasty uh they also they Su or no they sent a cease and desist letter they didn't sue them but I think that this is like a very light form of push back we've we've uh we've had some there's a lawsuit there was a lawsuit from from The New York Times against open AI for like training on their information and on their data and now you have some other news outlets trying to fight back against this like new paradigm of AI companies just scra steamrolling over the Internet with their scrapers just scraping whatever the hell they want and to be fair that's the way it it always worked with scrapers like web scrapers are not did not arrive with a companies but these scrapers have become more of a problem there's more eyes on them and people are thinking a lot more now that the AI models have already been trained on all the content on the internet people are like wait a second maybe the people who make the content should be compensated for that though the May the people that conglomerate the content not necessarily the people that make it Reddit is not giving really any money to yeah I mean I'm I'm talking about news outlets but yes Reddit is that you know that's that's interesting because as a Reddit user you're thinking that maybe you should be compensated and I think they had some sort of compensation I forget what happened with that very small feel very small yeah but regardless now these AI companies are being forced to well forced I don't know to make publisher deals so they're making deals with certain uh aggregators or creators of the news content um and so that first started with open AI when they launched search GPT right so they launched it after perplexity had all these issues with the publisher uh plagiarisms yes plagiarism ACC accusations yep seas and desists and then so search G gbt gets launched they're like hey we have deals with Publishers yeah and and then a week after that he like oh we we also have deals with Publishers um yeah we're doing that too yeah it's kind of funny I mean open AI started making these deals with Publishers last year I believe I think there's one with the Atlantic they definitely W with the Atlantic and no the I think the New York Times They don't have a deal obviously because the lawsuit is still ongoing with that but they have made a deal with a number of other large news corporations and yeah you're right when they when they announced search GPT it was basically like oh open AI is doing perplexity except they have the the deals with Publishers and they also now have a deal with Reddit yes uh so you can use Google to access Reddit content or or search search giit man it's so annoying to me when the internet chunks itself into these blocked off chunks and I can't access it because I live in a certain place if only there was the sponsor of this video to help with that which there is the sponsor of this video private internet access their VPN network spans across six continents and 91 countries letting you access your local catalog of content from all over the globe globe globe globe plus with a single subscription you get unlimited connections making it easy to run Pia on practically any device they just concluded their second security audit as well so that puts further emphasis on your privacy and security if you're still not convinced they are 100% open source you can go digging through the code yourself to find out if they're trustworthy in your eyes even if you don't read code you can look at it look at it so go check out Pia at Pia vpn.com TechLink or by using our Link in the description for a special deal with a risk-free 30-day m back guarantee now here's my question tying back into the whole thesis about internet dying becoming more closed off mhm uh when AI chatot sort of took off a lot of people were like oh there's like censorship and stuff like that is this not sort of accentuating that because the I'm I'm I'm assuming because they want to avoid plagiarism accusations perplexity is probably going to either only use or only promote Publishers that they have these ad Revenue sharing deals with which means that the answers that you get when you search with with perplexity and I would imagine search GPT would only use those Publishers so you're only getting information from a smaller pool of potential information from the web if if you were to look around yourself perhaps that is what I am confused about open AI has launched search DPT in like they call it a prototype so it's not widely available to the the public right now but yeah I mean the fact that we aren't entirely sure how this works is is is indicative of the of the extent to which this is changing the web I mean even the arc browser The Arc company who like made this this uh you know alternative new browser they're like oh we want to break like Chrome's Monopoly basically on the browser market and just like change how people think about browsers yeah basically the way that those worked is they do they use AI the AI goes and searches for the results and then it summarizes stuff for you it's the same kind of thing and I remember having the thought when the arc announced that thing where I was like okay wait websites it costs money to have people visit your website because your server runs your website and every time people go to the server you're expending resources in order to keep that running and the way that they keep it running is by having ads run on the site it caus money to run the site you get revenue from ads it's unclear to me how much ad Revenue uh an a a site is getting if a web scraper or like an AI comes and fetches a result and then brings it back and summarizes it I've seen people say that it is the same that like a page view is a page view I've also seen people say that well when a human comes to a website and they scroll through and they see the app ads and maybe they click an ad and blah like an AI isn't going to click an ad M you might get an impression because it's like oh we can see in our system that that ad was served to some some agent I don't know if it was a human or an AI but that's an impression right there um but I think that if I had to guess the and correct me in the comments if I'm wrong if you're like in the ad world uh I'll try to find if there's people correcting me in the comments and like John Ham you there put it up um I believe that if you're a human visiting a website that's going to be a lot more valuable to the the people who run the website than an AI like a bot or a scraper or whatever MH so that's I mean uh the fact that we the the the search industry Google and its competitors uh Google is still I think I we talked about this recently Google is like 95% of that's big it's like the vast majority like everyone's like look look at all these alternative search engines they're there people are looking at them they're just not using them yeah very few people use them most the vast vast vast majority of people still use Google and so like the the Paradigm is shifting from Google and these other search engines leading people to the sites they click on the sites they go through they give those sites ad Revenue it's changing from that to like the like Google or search GPT or whatever is doing all the summarizing for you and and it's hopefully they have these deals worked out with some of the the big Publishers because otherwise no one is going to get nearly as much revenue as they used to the fact that these AI scrapers and the Bots are like costing websites money is is indicated by the fact that like uh some people are calling out the Bots for for being annoying like the ifixed CEO just said recently he called out specifically anthropic because the anthropic scraper uh was hitting he said they were hitting our servers a million times in 24 hours and even the AI company's own chatbot disapproves according to PC Gamer which I hate when people do that I love PC Gamer but I can't stand when people are like I asked this Chapa what it thought about this it's like it's not alive it doesn't it can't have opinions um and then also the Reddit CEO uh told The Verge in in an interview you know talking about his Google deal he basically you know said hey we made this deal with Google we made this deal with open AI Steve Huffman yeah hey Microsoft anthropic perplexity if you want Reddit like pay up and I don't know like there's a part of me that wants people to be paid for the content that they make uh on the other hand you sp on the other hand when when it comes to like Reddit mhm charging for the use of their API when Reddit was you know Reddit is such a great example of the phenomenon that I'm talking about here I never used Reddit that much when I was a kid I don't know about you but to me it was when I discovered Reddit fairly late in the game I was like what the this is amazing that the front page of the Internet it's just like literally anything on the internet can be posted here it was like User it's it's a it's a user built site it was like a home for every Forum ever yeah and now Reddit the company is like that's our data and like if you want access to our data then you have to pay us and it's just it's just weird I don't know it just feels weird but maybe that's because I'm this I was a native of this like Web 2.0 and I need to get a lot I mean web 3.0 is like a crypto thing we're not even talking about that anymore that's that's a deprecated term you said Web 2.0 I did I didn't like it I'm sorry I love you did you use Reddit when you were younger how active on the internet I started using it probably when I was like maybe late te or or early 20s that was really when I started sort of using I remember like I really started using it like when I started University MH um like I heard about it before then like it was sort of talked about but I don't think the app was very good I didn't really scroll social media on my computer and I didn't really like how the whole layout was like cuz this was this was in the time of old Reddit which I know people have a Fest for well but that's the funny thing is that it wasn't like it is social media I guess it's like a social website yeah but when I say when I hear the word social media I think of like you know if we're talking early days I'm thinking Myspace nexopia which I used Myspace I did not use NEX Neopets neop I mean lego.com in some ways yeah the Chive anyway um the CH no that was like a feed I can has cheeseburger anyway um so I was just kind of like I was like I watch I want to watch TV I want to watch TV I want to play video games so I didn't really do that like I would scroll I start I started scrolling red on like my phone yeah and then I posted a couple times got like you know 5,000 car it's all good um but then I stopped using it when the API thing happened I now use lemi which is the meterse alternative see okay so now this is I think this is where the sort of difference in our in our uh generation comes up we're technically both Millennials but I'm 35 you're younger than classified classified um but when I was in university uh I don't remember using Reddit basically at all I remember like discovering Reddit I think mostly after I graduated which I'm thinking now I'm like how is that possible because I did research things to write papers and stuff in University but I think I was mostly like using academic sources I would go to the library at the University and like look for stuff but yeah I I it's actually wild to me that I did not use Reddit so to get back to this it's it's for us the the digital I get are we the digital natives who's supposed to be the digital natives I think Millennials are supposed to be like we grew up with the internet we you know we had some of the early Services as they were developing I found this uh I found this article recently on Business Insider it's called Rip Club Penguin um that was a dark day Club Penguin being another example of like it's a game but it was also very very so it was an MMO and uh I remember being a secret agent did you play CL Club Penguin yes I never did see I'm I'm I'm feeling nostalgic for this era of the internet even though I fa I feel like I barely partook in it I was busy playing Xbox 360 um and the sub headline of this is Millennials were raised by the internet now their internet parents are gone and this kind of got me thinking about the topic that we've been talking about today it's like like someone else's parents died because you weren't raised by this and you're like man these other people's parents di let's talk about that I think that you know I know that my parents had anxieties about like what was happening with my generation and how much time we were spending like in front of the internet instead of the much more traditional and acceptable way to waste time at home sitting in front of the TV so much different I've had so many arguments with for my for my dad it was it was all about it was going outside what my dad that was how he want you to go no no no he went outside like with his friends like he would go outside oh that's great and hang out with his friends and then come home when like the when the when the street lamps came on oh you mean when when he was a kid yeah when he was a kid so like he was like sort of like kissing why don't you bike over your friend's house and like go play outside I'm like I mean I did do that but like I think that I was I was so confused when you're talking about like what do you your your dad went outside when you were a kid I anyways my dad went outside with his friends while I was inside watching the TV and he played street hockey with his old friends that's what I thought you were talking about no beers just Capri Suns my dad was in a like The Stranger Things type group at a 40-year-old riding around his bike solving Mysteries while I was on Wikipedia like a loser when his friends got sucked didn't they upside down he was so upset but but yeah I mean I'm kind of like I I I lament this I mean like what is there on the internet that is like ye olden times where you know you go on you make a free account it's everything goes the fediverse I think would be the Clos closest you've mentioned the fediverse before and I kind of understand it to be sort of a like Reddit SL Twitter interconnected group of websites where you can like cross post and stuff is that is that more or less so there a bunch of it's a collection of social media Alternatives there are like alternatives for like every major social media platform you can think of or even like YouTube and stuff like that and they all uh can communicate with each other using a common protocol it's the internet for vegans it's weird you say that because I feel like there are a lot of vegans on let me it's the glutenfree crunchy internet no no no it's it's it's it's more free form cuz like it's like there's there's servers and they're publicly hosted and it's more like it's not all controlled by one entity like people can make servers and then people can join those servers and then still access to the other servers and then there's this cross communication between other platform right you know I every time you've brought up LMI I'm like okay whatever man I'm using Reddit but I think given everything that we've been talking about here I feel like it might be kind of time to consider it which is kind of funny for me to say because even as I say that I'm like I don't want to do that I really just want the internet to be fixed and maybe that's stupid maybe it won't happen because it it is it is scary looking ahead at what like what we're I have a child what I'm sending my my my child into like what is the internet going to look like when when he's a teenag when when he's a teenager you know it's like I see Riley what you're describing is you're like my issue is all of these different places are closing off themselves and there's all this information and uh stuff on the internet that's becoming centralized and like gated yeah yeah decentralization is what the fediverse is that I and that's awesome I think that like it's free open source download lemy it's a chicken in the egg problem right because the fediverse sounds really great and it sounds like you know everyone should use it but if I go to use that and no one's there then I'm it's like I'm cutting myself off from culture and I think that this is a this is a whole another debate like baked into this it's like should I be lamenting the ways that the internet is changing or should I be just kind of like you know accepting the changes that come with with uh with societal transformation I think that it's you don't have to pick one of those I think I can say that an internet in which everything exists in these little bubbles uh owned by corporations that have to pay each other to access it leading to a worse experience overall for users I can say that that's bad well also kind of you know admitting that all right we got to find a way to live and and advocate for for change in this culture I just I just don't know if like I said this when when Elon bought Twitter and Twitter started changing Twitter is objectively worse than it was you mean you mean X yeah you know what I mean it's objectively worse than it was except for Community notes Community notes are great other platforms should should adopt the same thing but the algorithmic changes and the moderation changes on on X are just unquestionably worse it's just anyways I I won't get into that but I said this when that first happened that like I don't think Twitter is ever going to go away I think it'll I don't think anything will really take the place of Twitter I will say that it's been encouraging to see threads do well I think threads is doing okay I thought they were going to die immediately meta but that's another meta platform I don't want them to have it have you considered Mastadon which is a fediverse alternative I feel like everything that I'm saying I tell you that I'm not interested in the f and then everything that I'm saying is like I should just check out the fediverse it is fun constantly when you keep describing the same problem like you know the thing is like this one site that I used to like it's it's closed off and and this this controversial technocrat runs it and I don't know if I want to support him and it's and it makes me feel uncomfortable if only there was a way that I could have like a free or like another open source alternative that was decentralized that wasn't controlled by like someone like Mark Zuckerberg the fediverse sounds like something in Star Citizen and that weirds me out like the like it's a it's a it's a it's a universe specifically for federal agents maybe my brain is adding uh uh R to it and now it sounds like the fediverse so it's Universe of just Freds it's just a it's just a universe made by Fred and that makes me think of staris because the company that makes Starships in citizen is called Robert Space Industries named after Chris Roberts the Creator did did you follow my path of I didn't that didn't relate to Fred at all because I was just thinking of Fred from Scooby-Doo and then Fred from Old School YouTube I would I would go I would get on Fred from Scooby-Doo's uh social platform if that was him but it's not so I won't so where is the internet going I don't know I hope that we're not going into this like straightup dystopian situation where like there's no open internet at all anymore you know it's basically just TV channels that you have to pay to access and that's the internet um I hope not but uh I hope uh it looks like that might be where we're going I'm not sure net neutrality just got it might be it looked like it was coming back and now it looks like they're not bringing it back because of the Chevron thing that's a that's a whole another thing regardless guys we don't have time anymore thanks for watching this talk link it's Monday mhm we'll see you on Wednesday for more Tech news love y'all be good to each other that's nice I love you too I used to say back what I used to say I love you thank you"}