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Colton what are you doing bud I need to network my gaming PC my Wi-Fi is kind of

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spotty and I was going to run Ethernet over here but my wife keeps telling me I

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can't leave cables on the floor for people to trip on so what you're gonna put them in the walls yeah well Colton

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your walls are already full of cables oh

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this is really cool obviously Colton's right in a perfect world we would run

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Ethernet cabling through the walls to every desired endpoint in the home it's

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fast and cost effective at least it is for new construction depending on when

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your home was built it may simply not be viable to network up your house with

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Cat5e or Cat6 cabling even if Wi-Fi isn't an option for your house due to

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its size composition or proximity to

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noisy neighbors there are other Solutions your walls might not have

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network cabling in them but they are chock full of other kinds of cabling

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some of which are capable of carrying network data with the appropriate

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adapter so we're going to take a look at two of the most popular options

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Powerline and mocha and see which one

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works best for Colton and we're going to see what works best to tell you about

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the two solutions we're going to be comparing today are mocha which uses

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those coax cables that you might have in your walls from when people still had

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cable TV and Powerline which uses your

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power lines they both offer similar performance at two and a half gig and 2

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gig respectively they both operate using similar principles that is to say using

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RF signaling over the existing wiring in your walls and they both have a similar

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cost since it's less likely to be susceptible to interference from a dirty

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power grid or say hi draw or misbehaving

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appliances within the home fortunately I think that's going to work

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for us today because you happen to have a coax Jack here and since Colton used

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to have cable internet there should be a coax cable next to your modem let's go

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have a look yes do you want me to move my stuff out yeah first things first

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let's get this exercise bike the let's see how let's see how big the layer of

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dust is on the bike it's not that bad I just we just cleaned everything here

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it's not that bad oh so not because you use it but because you cleaned it no I

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don't use it I was like way to make it way way to reinforce what he's saying

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this is to show that I could exercise and that I have an interest I just don't

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so to show that you have no excuse yeah exactly

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cool I did try to vacuum over here though less dog hair than last time

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although these things are really cool for cable management I bought off I bought them off Amazon let's see how

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much hair they take in them oh it's not bad look that's way better than it used

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to be this is an improvement from every other video we've ever done together yes

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yes wait where is your coax oh my God

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okay my coax used to be inside of here but then the fiber now

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yeah so where's your coax probably in

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there it used to be in there I think it's in the box outside Lions this is a

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nice screwdriver where'd you get it from lttstore.com

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oh I don't have good news folks there's just a little

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it's like in there the little fiber guy

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I don't want to pull uh oh this is bad there's a lot of resistance yeah can I

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just see yeah you take a look this could be bad okay what what is on the other

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side of this wall the garage oh crap well we need to find it okay okay sounds

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good we're heading to the garage all right oh no my garage is gonna be on

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camera nice Tesla charger how's your model three it's totaled gone

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what an unbelievable person what are you doing you moving that out of the way I

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do you need a flashlight I have some news for you what's the news brother the

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news is that I found your coax cable

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oh oh so they literally pulled it out of

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the oh yeah this is it oh nice so here's your fiber line which we should

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definitely not pull on then because there's not a lot of slack oh no it

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might be this one is this one yeah it's that one here's your fiber line then and

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here is the coax cable that used to

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go through this hole very nice how many holes you want to put

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in the wall today oh however many we need to go for anything for content

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do we just have to drill a hole through the thing yeah oh that's fine and you

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have some yeah oh that oh yeah

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that's what you mean yes yes yes yes yes yes like a-u-l-k

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as long as we listen there's space between this wall and the next wall yeah like do you want it to come out in the

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room yeah yeah there's like there's like it's like yeah okay yeah yeah we're just

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gonna go but are you going all the way through the wall oh yeah yeah let's go

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have a quick looky Boo at the other side no drill first then

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you go on the other side buddy I'll start knocking I'll start knocking you

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just aim for my hand what could go wrong no please don't do that this is great

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because you're just gonna put a plate here so the hole like it doesn't even

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have to be accurate oh we just go we don't think there's anything else behind

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there what if there's Plumbing behind there just like Plumbing to what should

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skip it okay all right you got the spot hold on

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I need my glasses I need my goggles what you got glasses on what are you doing I

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know what are you talking about okay

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okay I'm gonna wait for it on the other side I'll turn on my camera all right

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sounds good okay all right buddy you ready David yeah all right three two one

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drill

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ah some damage

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hello hey lioness

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halfway through the

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you did a great job great job Colton did

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you cook the cable sir no are you gonna well you did I mean we

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just want to Hole In The Wall I mean we can make more holes in the ball crap buddy

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buddy well okay hold on you're close you're close one sec one sec

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I'm not moving uh okay put it back where it was

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that mean I don't know twist it try twisting it twist it okay push

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oh yeah yeah got it let's go fun facts

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by the way you can still have cable TV and cable internet and mocha it's just

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that the more devices that you have running on your coax lines well the

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lower the performance might be my understanding is that if you have Dish

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it uses the same frequencies as mocha so you could run into trouble but in most

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cases it should be fine hey Colton you got an Ethernet cable also we need the

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power adapter for this I will have to find it oh wait no it includes one hey hey

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sounds good wow that is not a particularly confidence inspiring

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Ethernet cable but that's fine yeah it will do gigabit what you're looking at

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then is the fiber line coming in from the street going into our modem router

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Wi-Fi combo unit then just like you

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would normally plug in a computer we've plugged an Ethernet cable into the back

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of it and instead of running the other end to the PC we're running this end to

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our go coax adapter which converts it from Ethernet to coax now we just got to

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put one of these on the other side this has built-in mocha oh that's sick we

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actually don't even need the second adapter then we can put this one on the

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other side that just saved us 50 bucks hold on a minute

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I mean well um

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I don't know what standard of mocha that supports so I'm probably going to want

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to come back and test it with these on both sides after but let's try it like

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this and just see what happens after you roasted our PCS I went ahead and cleaned

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my computer clean cleaner

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it's like gonna light on it's on fire I bought that off Amazon

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it's Amazon Basics no that's not what I mean I just mean all the like lint next

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to it oh yeah the spark that's basically Tinder what are you doing with Tinder

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that's funny so just all the cringe now

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we're looking at basically the same thing on the other side that coax cable from the other room goes into the main

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Distribution Hub for the house and then there's another cable that runs from

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there over to yeah yeah unfortunately we're actually not

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getting indicator lights for either our land connection to the PC or mocha and

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this is where things get a little bit dicey think about it if you were using a

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technology like mocha in say for example an apartment building what would prevent

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everyone else in that building from getting access to your network

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nothing thankfully we've got encryption so we're

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going to be using MPS which is for mocha protected setup to essentially pair our

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mocha adapters by having them share the same encryption key it works in much the

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same way that WPS does for Wi-Fi check power LED is solid Lan LED is blinking

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um yeah no this should be working can I have another one of these go coaxes just

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in case I don't know if any of this troubleshooting is going to make it into

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the video maybe a Floatplane exclusive or something yeah but dude I think your

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Lan Port is dead you got drivers and everything it doesn't light up but I

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plugged in just my USBC Network dongle and immediately the Lan light goes on so

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oh wow okay we can try just reinstalling your drivers in the meantime I want to

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get mocha working yep I'm just going to use this at least it should be that

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simple to add devices once we've got our Network configured in order to configure

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our Network we first have to reset our device which is very easy obviously you

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can see that just gotta poke this hole for 10 seconds when the thing is inside

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a tiny little recessed hole it doesn't need to be held for 10 seconds

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manufacturers that's not going to get hit by accident

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hey there we go gold coax by the way

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isn't the only brand of mocha adapter so they just happen to be the one that we're using today within the control

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panel the most important things you're going to set are a new password for the

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admin control panel itself and new encryption keys for the d-band mocha

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that we're using so we're going to go ahead and go coax as the old one and

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then I'm also going to set a static IP the better way to set a static IP is

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through your router not through the device but I'm lazy and this is Colton's

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house now we reboot the device if you've worked your network settings and it

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doesn't work well you can always factory reset it and try again

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before you panic though don't forget to go back to the network adapter that you

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configured manually and set it back to DHCP now we've made our way into the

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dashboard for the Telus router and there is no obvious way to use MPS so I give

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up Colton can just spend another fifty dollars and we're going to use a second Goku Xbox on the other side

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what's that what's the conclusion here guys I'm not going to try to use the built-in mocha on your router oh okay

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I'm just you're just going to buy another one of these okay sounds good yeah cool this is the part where we find

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out if Colton's house is even mocha compatible at all what some of the

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wiring in these walls is just let's say very random like these cables may not

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actually go back to a central location and if they don't we're hooked is there

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any indicator that it's doing anything yeah if the mocha light turns blue uh

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the mocha light is not on at all it's not on at all yeah this could be

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bad it's not great they called me might have put a hole in your wall for no reason at

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all well that's okay it was fun it's all

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about the journey not the destination yeah something but in this case it was

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about the destination but we didn't get there yeah yeah

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well we're defeated if you have working cable internet or TV in your house you

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shouldn't run into a problem like this but it seems like Colton's cable box

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here um it requires a tool that is only three

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dollars but we simply don't have to open it up and check

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fully we did do a test before we came here and

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while mocha does add some additional latency it's more consistent compared to

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Wi-Fi which is better for gaming and it's wicked fast the thing to note

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though is that if you add more than two mocha adapters to your home they function like a hub meaning that each

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transmission goes to every other node on the network meaning that there can be a

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lot of overhead so that advertised two and a half gigabit gets consumed pretty

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fast as you start to scale Beyond three four five devices Powerline which is

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what we're going to attempt now works in much the same way but is a little more

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flexible because you can put it anywhere with a power plug as long as they're all

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going through the same breaker and the speeds at two gigabit per second are at

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least hopefully comparable and definitely enough for us where we only

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need the two endpoints let's go try it from my previous

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experience with it Powerline is a lot more Plug and Play basically you take

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this here thing you plug it into darn it

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Colton what happened there's no extra power outlet ideally you wouldn't run it

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through a power strip and I'd really like to have one of these

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um do you have two power strips here Colton

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yeah oh my God you have so many things

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plugged in I do guilty as charged

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is there another car no not easily accessible what's up just unplug

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something What's your deal yeah you know what really I don't even

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care anymore what here you go Colton was that my monitor boom Oh boom what was

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that don't even trip and just like that wait

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what is this actually how this works yes this is actually how this works oh

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right my Ethernet ports dead what a what a wow you can do a lot of things now

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we're going in here no cables across the hall let's go

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oh God we really did put an extra hole in your wall of Colton

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it's okay we're just gonna put wood filler on it it'll be okay wood silly

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yeah wood filler it's fine okay that's fine or we'll hang a painting

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little one world's smallest you know

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what not my house what hey hey wait what

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don't worry about it what's going on what are you doing about it there

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Wireless interwebs yeah well wired interwebs yeah wired but with different

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wires yeah this is so much better than Wi-Fi

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I'm serious I've used this stuff before

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it can be great Colton's just cursed

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we even upgraded his Wi-Fi once you remember that that was a whole video it

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was and that was it it really was that simple this whole video could have been

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30 seconds long let's go

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no no enough

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no this is gonna be basically exactly the

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same not that we even did it before test because that doesn't matter

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but that's you probably have a hundred yep that's yeah that's close to what it

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was this is where things get impressive now

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remember how our ping times were all over the place before jumping up to 20

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25 milliseconds look at that just 10

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Steady As She Goes that's the benefit of

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a wire wanna throw a cup of water in the microwave and fire it up I'm curious are

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we actually oh yeah we're throwing something okay

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throw throw uh yeah yeah make yourself a home Tanner

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I get basically everything about his life right no you don't I I came all the

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time you told me I wouldn't game I just neglect my family in a game okay

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well I just thought you were better than that

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okay the right point is me

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it was awesome we can microwave endgame at the same time freaking

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freaking right that is pretty sick so I have a dumb question and maybe don't

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include this the video if it's a really stupid question who's our sponsor

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it would have been a great segment kind of hoped you were going there how

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much difference is it gonna make when I game saving 10 milliseconds it's not

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about the 10 milliseconds it's about the difference it's about the inconsistency

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and the thing you got to remember is that these are really really basic pings

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not that often when you're gaming

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the data stream is much more frequent and you might have something else going

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on in the background maybe you've got comms going in the background as well well that's going to screw with it so

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you're streaming to me you're watching a video still consistent

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got it whereas if I was one little jump there but that's it now we're gonna

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switch back over to Wi-Fi okay okay your Wi-Fi is actually lower latency what how

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could this possibly be more consistent okay it wasn't though this was garbage

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it was yeah it was bumping up to like 25. what is the point of even trying to

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make Tech tips well that's the thing about Wireless

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is that it seems to be working great and sometimes it does work great

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but I swear to you three hours ago this

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was jumping up to like 25 plus milliseconds quite frequently can

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confirm oh wow look at that we actually did get we gotta jump to 50 milliseconds

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that's what I'm talking about when that happens in a firefight that sucks you

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will feel that okay okay all right hold

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on let's put you back on I'm not done yet just like with mocha by the way you're

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going to want to make sure that if you're in a space where you might share power lines with someone else whether

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it's an apartment a duplex or even a

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commercial building you're going to want to set up encryption on that Network so

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that not just anyone can plug in a power line adapter and have it work for both

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standards as well there are multiple generations of the technology and while

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in theory they should be forwards and or backwards compatible that's not always

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the case so I would recommend matching adapters for the best possible results

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in our case this is looking pretty good

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why don't we load it up a little heavier uh let's get another twitch stream going

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sure okay who else do we like to watch uh summit1g let's go

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uh uh wow are we using 25 CPU watching

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twitch oh a lot more than that okay cool and we're using about half of your

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internet connection we are seeing some spikes 2027 now let's switch over to

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Wi-Fi

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and through okay but our twitch streams did this one just go down in quality too

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no yeah sure enough Wireless is bad and

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that he took out and replaced a different one