we did our pre-show today which means that we shouldn't have any difficulty
with audio or video but every time I say that why would you say
that why did you just say that every time I say that it ends up being a bit
of a problem for us so uh hopefully that's not going to be the case tonight
but uh We've we've repositioned the the microphone so the funny thing is
normally the complaint is always that the audio is too low but uh during the
the the pre-show people were saying no no it's too loud it's like okay okay
well apparently everyone's volume knob is broken because well the problem is
that everyone's volume knob ranges from everywhere from the bottom all the way
to the top so someone it's too loud
someone it's too quiet and there's nothing we can
do at all someone says they were kidding about
it being too loud so that's really not helpful yeah it's actually actually not
helpful because we actually have have had problems with audio before so guys
this is the new time for the live stream I'm actually going to go ahead and
launch the YouTube video that says hey hey we're live so you should probably
join and uh and and not be not watching
the live stream I have a feeling that we're not going to have a ton of viewers
live tonight just because I think people aren't going to be used to the new time
and we told everyone like super late
last night some people today yeah some
people today and we told everyone last week that it was going to be moving to
Monday but then there's a there's a very good reason we didn't move it to Monday
and it has to do with um like
gnomes what are you doing it's not
on echo echo echo echo echo I can't even
watch because what yeah oh there's an
ad oh this video might have played I guess
maybe yeah it must be over um so yeah we
we went with this time slot for a very good reason and the reason for that is
that because of the way that the Earth turns and because of where the
International Date Line is for some people when we live stream pretty much
no matter what it's going to be tomorrow and so if it's if it's a Monday and it
lands on someone's tomorrow morning then while we understand that it's not
perfect for everyone in Australia and Asia to have it in the morning we
figured a Saturday morning is probably better odds wise than any other day of
the week in the morning and then the reason that we're still on for Friday
night is that um it was really challenging for a lot of people to stay
up late in Europe when it was on like a
Monday night and they had to go to work on a Tuesday for example and I know not everyone works 9 to5 Monday to Friday
but we have to we had to do something and it couldn't stay where it was we
tried grabbing High possible percentages in every field and this is what we came
up with yeah it kind of had to be 400 p.m. it kind of had to be during the
week so it was what day during the week and if we had it the only day that had
actually had an advantage was Friday because all the other days you run into
the exact same problems and then Friday you have that slight advantage of some
people being on Saturday instead of some people being on during school or work at
like 9:00 a.m. on a Tuesday Wednesday Thursday you know what the irony of it
is is that probably one of the worst time zones for this slot is our
yep so I had uh I had Tim from Timmy
tech TV Who's down in Seattle uh he works at Microsoft he has his own
YouTube channel and he was like um
guys yeah it's it's kind of like oh I'm
not going to be able to watch anymore well my my mom tries to be like over
what do you over supportive in like every possible thing ever and is just R
about everything which is awesome but she's like well I can't really watch it
any more and I'm like it's okay the
archive's there yeah don't worry Mom it's really all right it's like she she
she tries to contribute things that we might talk about stuff which she like I
don't know I love that she watches it but don't understand at the exact same
time because there's no way she understands like three cors what we're
talking about but yeah I mean she probably understands when we're talking
about like Harry Potter yep so and then
we talk about like 77 990 and we got torn part for talking about Harry Potter
because I gave away a bunch of spoilers and there were viewers that so we can't
talk about the things that she does understand the things your mom gets we're not talking about anymore I'm
sorry sorry slick um you know what why don't we
start with let's let's start with something pretty easy today why are they
putting the Star Wars films on a release schedule right once once every summer is
that it right once every summer once every summer that's insane that sketches
me out because stuff like like Harry Potter was on our leas schedule I
believe well release schedule is and Lord of the Rings was definitely on a
release schedule and The Hobbit is on a release schedule okay hold on hold on
hold on all of this was pre-filmed yeah
that's right yeah whereas they're setting like as far as I know I can't
imagine they've done any degree of planning for episode 10 I guess oh yeah
sounds like a good idea or episode seven rather pardon me like I it's like oh so
some ex like that's that's what this reeks of it's like what goes wrong with
actually here we should probably be we should probably be uh providing the link
so this was a link on the verge so we are not the source for this news so you
guys can check it out here but this really reeks of executive somewhere
making a decision that has no basis in reality this is like um like I look at
someone like Disney and I go yeah they've done so many good things with so
many good franchises I kind of had faith in them but I mean come on guys you
can't you can't rush the creative process like Who Who Are You
EA know it's early from my shot at EA we
we have to take our weekly shot just oh
bam it's like how's your nuts feeling from last week here let me give you
another one you want a break no it's like we
must have a new game I mean I mean that's what happens game like sports
games used to be good now what are they they're rehashes of the same damn thing
every time I mean is that what this is going to be it's bad decisions that get
made early on in the process that end up turning it into something unsustainable
I want more Blades of Steel and I I mean
I mean okay and another thing too is like look at how long it took to to make
the original Three which quite frankly they didn't they probably shouldn't have
taken quite that long but we're looking at the out Mark Hamill goes from like
like super hot youngster with really bad hair to like ugly old guy with good hair
and it's like he never he he never won he could never win how could how did he
stand a chance of being a heartrob are they going to do the same thing to a
whole new generation of stars well no apparently well no definitely not I mean
the only the problem is they're not going to age the next thing they have to
do to really sort of make me not even bother showing up at the movie is cast
sha buff oh God wasn't that awful in
Indiana Jones
like oh
I mean with that said the casting couldn't be much worse than it was for
the prequel trilogy so and I mean the
the word on the street sort of the rumors is that they're bringing together
a lot of the original cast to play you know parents and all that with some of
them yeah some of them are like I don't
really want to do this yeah but hopefully they can just throw enough
money at them that it actually won't matter it's Disney so I kind of see that
happening it's Disney and it's the Star Wars franchise I mean just on the basis
of the money they're going to be reaping from you know a new a new sort of
generation of Mark Hamill action
figures like if I was one of those guys that's holding out I'd be I'd be asking
for sort of a piece of some of the pie in some way as opposed to a lumpsum
amount but then if I'm Disney I'd be crazy to give them that so I'm sure
it'll all come down to the individual negotiating tables but I really hope
they'll find a way um cuz yeah I mean
you can bring back a series but if you bring it back and kill it yeah is Disney
they're doing pretty damn good with their action hero movies I know but they're okay tell me something though
did they put something like Spider-Man on a we have to release a new one every
year like what if they did that to
Batman oh man um I don't know I honestly
don't know because they've been doing the cartoon series for so long now okay
Star Wars whatever it's called I don't even know I've never seen it yeah I
don't know I saw the anime at Clone Wars movie it was terrible it was like the
worst thing I've ever seen was it was the cartoon one terrible I haven't seen
either I don't know why don't we you know what guys we're opening up the Twitter boards because let us know how
is the Star Wars animated series we'd love to hear your feedback and we're
looking for onew answers here guys we don't want an essay it is Twitter after
all so uh you know terrible um great uh
I mean this is an acceptable response um
bam there's another one one two
punch oh man uh they want to know if Slick's ever going to start his own
channel would love to have a sort of podcast with you talking about tech
stuff I don't know if I'll do one talking about tech stuff because this is
kind of a podcast and we're talking about tech stuff we're talking about
Star Wars so far but yeah lightsabers
are nerdy stuff I guess you're wearing a Star Wars shirt I am wearing a Star Wars
shirt that's not even on purpose today I know yeah that's awesome love it um if
if I ever actually did make my own channel would probably be something centered around gaming one of the big
reasons why we haven't done that yet is we haven't found an approach that we
find um we have time for we have time for is a big
one that's like reason a 100% of reason
this much of the reason yeah and then a little bit of the reason is we want we
if we did that we would want to have a unique angle and we don't know what our unique angle would be yeah I mean um and
the other thing is you know whatever he starts I'm going to want to cut a bit so
you know I think from his perspective going to start
anything he's going to be like oh you're starting something 90 99% 99% and uh oh
yeah that's on your own time so you know I'm not going to be paying you hourly
for it so don't worry about it um let's have a look and see if we've gotten any
any there we go 28 oh wow okay okay
Clark that's a bit of a strong statement because Star Wars does not suck yeah uh
certain implementations of Star Wars uh might suck good awesome so good
it got canceled oh and we're talking about Futurama later like we are talking
about Futurama I'm going to bring another spin into that wow James Taylor
you are banned can I ban people Clone Wars is great get what do you mean get
past the childishness it's like it's the most formula like dumb kids it's like
it's like a Land Before Time sequel like that's how formula it is it's like the
Young Apprentice who is you know
rambunctious and then ends up saving the day so it turns out that her strong will
you know hotheadedness was good like come on it's a terrible message no kids
should watch it no adults should watch it um horrible apparently Doo didn't
watch it crappy terrible terrible cancelled better than episode one for
sure oh come on man saying it's better than episode one is like saying that
it's like you know more cleanly shaven than slick
um but story you have a Razer right okay
fine sorry go ahead razor got you have to buy new ones let down sucks horrific
awesome for kids storyline can we can we get storyline instead of like maybe the
animation sucks maybe the dialogue is
terrible but like the story line because I'm I'm wondering is is isn't he going
to pull anything from that story line like are they going to take anyone from
that series and continue them working on the new series you know I really wish
okay here here's the way this is going to work anyone from Disney if you're
watching this is how you need to do it because I'm evidently an expert because
I wear a Star Wars shirt that looks super old if they are
licensing the No No it's like ironically retro see it's intentionally like broken
lame yeah I know I'm a I'm opposing um
if they're going to make this work on a one-year release schedule it has to be
expanded universe content where they're licensing they're licensing books
because otherwise to expect new creative
unique awesome like up to the level of the original movies Star Wars scripts on
a yearly basis plus execution on a yearly basis brutal what I'm worried
about is what you just said what are you basing it on like what are the stories
based on yeah what what what what is the one your timeline based on what is any
of this based on well because story writing takes so much time before you
can actually start production that's why I'm saying and are we going to end up
with a situation where it's like you have multiple teams working on it so
it's like a like it's a graphics card you know where you have a team working
on the one that's three generations from now and then by the time that's actually
released they're working on something that's going to be three generated like if you have like multiple teams are we
going to have like a b and c quality Star Wars movies yeah happening every
three years I don't know so I mean it I guess it depends how much many questions
all the questions and it like it seems unnecessary why do you need so many
movies most of the money from Star Wars comes from merchandise anyway
I mean just re-release the original trilogy in 4k and it's like I'd buy it
I'd buy it who cares yeah I don't have much money still buy it I'd still buy it
doesn't matter you know what they really need to do like if Disney was really
smart go for it I've got an idea to original not special edition Trilogy in
4k Han shoots first you know what he did
deal with it in 4k he shot first so
I want them to release I pay for that you know the black and gold slider box
that everyone had yes they should just re-release that but in Blu-ray that was
the special edition but not the stupid special edition if I recall correctly
cuz I think there was legit that was the one where Han shot first but then I
think it has the extended scene where he walks over jaa's tail and all that other
stuff that they that they worked and I didn't mind that one yeah I didn't mind
that one but I still liked my originals better just cuz they're original mind
you they're VHS so it's like as if I can watch those well the golden black box is
VHS yeah I know but I had an original
like older older original okay so James Taylor has redeemed himself he means the
series he probably just said like 10 billion spoilers H for what Star Wars oh
come on I'm going to get I'm going to get compl you screw up like every single
week I'm going to get hate mail for Star Wars spoilers I'm sure it's going to happen every week spoiler alert okay
that's a little bit okay anyway J James is Forgiven
because he means the uh the series not the film so yeah because the animated
series is the same name yes so he's got
a point so that's confusing so it's kind of like Tomb
Raider yeah because the new one's just entirely different and you know what
it's it's one of those things where it doesn't seem like as much of a problem
because obviously if you're looking up an article about Tomb Raider you know
tress effects hair effects or whatever else then you know what Tomb Raider
you're talking about but when we start to get into games that are are going to
be like the original release is going to be on the steam platform and then like
the later release is going to be on the steam platform they're just going to be
the same name next to each how are you supposed to well Tomb Raider one had a
suffix did it not I don't know I don't think so I
don't think anyone ever used it I think it did because with Tomb Raider you know
you know how they started doing that thing where like if you pre-order and then enough other people pre-order the
whole idea is that you share the fact that you can pre-order if you pre-order
and enough other people pre PR then you unlock prizes and there's three tiers of
prizes okay Tomb Raider was one of those and I think the first tier was you got
like Tomb Raider one and two for free okay like what I can't remember exactly
what it was maybe twitch chat will tell me hopefully twitch chat will tell me um
but yeah so like I think it had a suffix and like steam can deal with it they'll
have some backend naming convention that's different for them it might be
confusing in your games list but I mean just the year would be okay Tomb Raider
2013 I'd be down with that yeah by the way the headphones are steel
series iner Pros but then what if Metro
2033 like 10 20 years from now they
release they re-release
Metro
B well that's kind of like what blood dragon is in the future in 2007 well
yeah but this would actually be confusing because Metro 2033 would be the same as Metro 2033 2033
however it would work out oh I see CU it would actually be that year yeah yeah
anyway apparently Star Wars is decent according to derp per uh what's a good
budget processor what would you buy if you were on a budget
today FX4 4300 or whatever it is it's
not a bad route to go to be honest and it depends what depends what you mean by
budget yeah what's your that's I hate that every single time anyone has ever
tweeted me with like I'm on a budget what do you suggest for X component well
he's just like what does your version of budget mean yeah I usually even ask like
what is your version of a budget cuz some people are like yeah I want a budget I only have two and a half grand
for a computer I'm like okay that's not
a budget in my books yeah that's like that's not a like that's not in the
usage that most I could fit a Titan into that machine with like a justifiable
configuration so but then people would be like oh yeah it's a budget cuz
technically it is a budget yeah it's a budget you can have a million dollar
budget and it depends what you're trying to do
I mean if you want to you know if if by budget processor you mean you want to
play games on onboard Graphics I'll say get an APU if by budget processor you
mean you want to edit video with as low a budget as possible
I'd say get an FX 6300 if by budget
processor you mean you know whatever it is that you
happen to 850s do quite well at really low NVIDIA editing that's a $200 chip
though is that budget I don't know
see processor and motherboard for 300 bucks to me usually about 300 bucks
we've ripped on like Baron van ruid for a little while here I'm sorry dude um
we've done a video on the r 7970 The Matrix uh it's on the ncixcom
Channel first time watching live hey shout out to Portugal I don't think
we've ever gotten a message from Portugal I know I don't think we're
going to have uh said it was the first time he's ever
been able to be live check this out 2300 live viewers sweet looks like the new
time worked in spite of nobody knowing about it at all nobody knowing at all
like me tweeting it twice I didn't even yeah I just left CU
I had to go see my brother yeah my brother wanted champy game was I was
like what's your problem cuz I was like oh can you tweet it to me so I can
retweet it I'm like bab I was in the middle of doing it my dad's just like
come on where you go I'm outside I'm like okay I guess you couldn't be late
for your brother's thing again that would have been just Bad News Bears so
slick missed his brother's Starcraft 2 casting thing because he his brother
called and his phone didn't go off and and then because of like the baby and
stuff my brother was trying to be polite and not knock on the door so he just kept on calling me and he was out there
for like kept on being 45 minutes and it
was not it was not good and then and then now it was my
brother championship hockey game yeah and I was supposed to go watch it and my dad calls me I'm not going to be late
for that that wasn't my brother waiting outside oh okay okay cuz I was going to
say if that happened again he would not have been impressed like Snap and his
brother's actually like bigger and stronger and like just basically beefier
than him he's like if you look at proportions he's slightly shorter than
me not by a lot he's not actually short he's just slightly shorter than me but
then he's just like he's he's a volunteer firefighter
but he takes it very seriously he has like firefighter build so like what
slick could do to me he could probably do to Slick he's picked me up and thrown
me around before yeah like that's a thing yeah he used that he would ref in
hockey whenever he had to ref one of my games because everyone expected him to
be biased he would be biased against me so if anything ever happened like I got
in a slight scrum with a guy once and I just feel like this big just like fist
grabbed the back of my jersey I'm like oh this is not good and I just go flying
and I'm like oh no that was bad exactly
who did that and I know exactly who's getting
the penalty even though I didn't think it was my fault but I'm still happy he
did it because if he gave the other guy the penalty everyone would have just
been like the entire other team would have just destroyed you the rest of the night oh it's just cuz he's your brother
all that crap so it was actually way better in oh they have finished every
check yeah would have been like not good yeah it was way better in the end that
he gave me a penalty and that he threw me off both of those things actually
helped um what's your opinion of the ly
field line of processors they were awesome they were good
value okay I have a paper do soon watching it very nice suizu worth
selling a 690 to get a Titan I'm thinking about it because of how quiet
it is how much quieter is it than a 690 this is actually a good discussion topic
too bad we don't have a 690 I've used a 690 I haven't okay 690 is a little bit
louder it's noticeably louder Titan's very quiet one big thing is are you
running multiple screens but we're that's not audio but that well okay so
audio aside let's let's tackle the whole question okay because there's the
performance Delta yeah so for those of you who don't know 6 GTX 690 is a dual
680 card essentially dual GPU uh 4 gigs
of RAM two per GPU that's important later sorry pause for one quick second
Tomer one was Laura coft Guardian of
Light shut up it was not was it apparently some guy just said that no
that's a different Tomb Raider is it I thought guardian of light's a different one I don't know I never played any of
them first Tom raid game I ever played like that was on my own system so I
actually played the entire game which I haven't actually beat yet was how she a
guardian
of all right guys so we think we're live again frames encoded is going up and
Frames dropped is not going up so it looks like changing the router has not
helped um basically what's happening is
while we're streaming our internet connection is completely no it was me uh
is completely dying um for some
competely unknown reason that we have we
have to call our ISP because it's just kind of getting ridiculous yeah happens
like every week we've swapped the router there's literally nothing we can do
about it it doesn't happen at all if we're not streaming through twitch yep
and like we do stuff that's just as intensive on the network every single
day like uploading videos to YouTube we'll do a huge batch internet does not
go out and we'll do multiple at a time um which is nuts yeah so I mean this is
uh this is a this is a this is a problem um so anyway let's get back to our
discussion topic because I mean sure that's what people want us to do so 690
versus Titan uh less effective memory on the 690 because remember guys in SLI
Whatever video memory you have per GPU so if it's 4 gigs total that means you
have 2 gigs per GPU that's all you effectively have whereas a Titan has six
gigs of memory so when you're running at something like 4K resolution throw that
690 in the trash because it won't work well it'll work but unfortunately we
didn't have a 690 but if you check out some of the results from the Titan
testing that we did a while ago yeah um you can you can extrapolate from it
where the RAM actually helped a crazy amount yes so it's already helping even
at 1080P and 2560 x600 which means it
will help that much more when you get up to resolutions like 4K which is
so wher one of the moderators on the Forum is suggesting that it's possible
that our ISP is using qos to um or
something or something to throttle us when they see us hitting the the
connection really hard the way that we've been doing which might throttle
enough that kicks off the stream because
our internet connection isn't dying a lot of the time we're still on Skype
chat and still seeing twitch chat even though the stream is down and it's just
giving us messages that say frames dropped dropped dropped Dro dropped like
we're actually still connected because when we lose our internet connection
outright xplit completely cuts it off right so xplit is still on just
telling us we're dropping every frame which is like helpful but uh but anyway
hopefully 720p will fix the issue uh my laptop still doesn't have any internet
connectivity but we're back on okay so I I I give up on this discussion topic
because we're just going to have to move on but in short if you want to use if
you want to play at higher resolutions tomorrow get a Titan if you want to run
a higher frame rates today at lower resolutions then the 690 is still the
better solution compared to the Titan I'm really sorry for the technical
difficulties this week guys honestly there I this is beyond our control we've
done everything that we can do um sorry to interject is it ea4500 right yeah
it's still an the a4500 so it's a it's a high-end powerful router I really don't
think that's the issue uh so first time watching in Germany
hello Germany and I'm glad to hear that the new schedule is way better for you
guys same thing with Italy first time from there good morning from the Philippines thank you for waking up
early and I'm sorry that we were uh that we were not here for a little while and
I'm sure that all these Twitter messages are about that we weren't uh that we
weren't here so why don't we move into our next discussion topic uh
ZTE has caved and is paying royalties to
Microsoft soft on their Android devices so let's go ahead and fire that bad boy
up there you go guys so this is a Daily Tech article Another One Bites the Dust
so what are the implications of
this um the be another one bites a dust
thing no not another one that's a song I was like why do you what what what I
don't know Microsoft is going around trumping everyone okay but why I mean uh
what what spurred this because I'm sure they could have done this a generation or two ago if they felt like it
well we talked earlier right but they they weren't there that's the point just
feels weird I'm like come on say the
thing I'm trying to grab the dog so I can tweet it out so people can actually
get the link for themselves huh oh don't worry about that talk to them okay so
Microsoft has Windows 8 phone ands Windows 8 everyone's going on crazy
patent Wars right now and Microsoft has tons and with Windows 8 phone a few
people were like hey pay us money for royalties and stuff so Microsoft kind of
got tired of it and was like fine you know what all of you are paying us all
the money because if you guys are going to be jerks we're just going to be way
bigger jerks than you are so I mean we discussed this a little bit last week
where Microsoft's bringing in 10 plus dollars often per Android device sold
from the manufacturers um regardless of whatever
else more than half of the Android devices this was before the
ZTE um the ZTE sort of capitulation here um
capitulation yeah well that that's that's that's the actual word I know I
was looking for a simpler one but that's before their their they threw in the
towel and uh so now it's getting to the point where pretty much whatever Android
device you buy you are giving money to Microsoft and that is the way that it is
going to be yeah
basically it's just another to their what's going on with your computer I
keep accid this button is stupid yeah don't worry about it I just keep
accidentally hitting it cuz it's on the side it's so noticeable because it's so
loud his laptop keeps turning like turning off or going into sleep or
something because there's a button on the slide on the side yeah it's just sleeping and he just keeps hitting it so
weird um yeah they're still going to go after more they're still going to just
start grabbing all the money they're saying like Motorola patents if anyone
was following Motorola patents from back in the day when all that stuff was going
on back in the day like two years ago two
years if you're following that at all you know how big of a deal that was and
people are speculating that the Microsoft patents are worth around a thousand times more right so that was
such a huge deal and this is worth a thousand times more just like yeah
that's going to sustain them for a while I suspect for those of I I keep I keep
seeing these articles Microsoft's doomed Microsoft's going down Microsoft won't
exist yes they will
Microsoft will find a way yes they will Microsoft is going to take over the
living room with the Next Generation Xbox um here that's my prediction
Microsoft's going to win I personally won't own one or I might own one but I
won't have it hooked up um so I personally won't use one but they're
going to own it and that is a huge Victory never mind if you know they
can't get their foot in the door mobile wise um for a little while longer how
however long it takes um the fact that they own these patents is going to give
them enough money that they can do whatever they need to do to get competitive and whatever other spaces
it's not like Chrome OS is going to be taking over anytime soon um you know in
spite of what people might hope it's not like Linux is going to be taking over anytime soon it's still so fragmented
um yeah yeah you can make what fine go
ahead rebuttal okay go ahead you know it's not going to happen steam's moving
to Linux uh groups like Ubuntu and mint are making very very userfriendly
versions of they've been doing that quite a while yeah and they're
increasing constantly so you can just
stay over there I don't know where I was going with that their user base is
constantly increasing it's constantly getting easier to use and more things are constantly being adapted to be able
to use it like every single Kickstarter that gets launched has a stretch goal
for Linux because so many people ask for it steam is going to be adapting to
Linux a lot of PC users are no longer happy with the Windows experience with
Windows 8 speaking of the uh the Windows experience with Windows 8 uh here's
another another Daily Tech article that we wanted to bring up today and that is
the rumor I think the Verge reported on
this as well that the start button will be returning in Windows 8.1 which might
be called Windows blue or whatever it is they're going to call it but the catch
is that it dumps you in the and they're calling it Metro but I think what they
mean to say is modern UI which is of
course very different from Metro Daily Tech actually got this from The Verge
from The Verge I just didn't go get the Verge article because I was trying to go
really quickly okay well it's the verge's scoop
um so Daily Tech picked it up from there and like honestly what's the point
because I don't know how many of you guys have used Windows 8 extensively at
at this time but check this out okay this is a Windows 8 notebook okay I'm
going to take my mouse cursor I'm going move it down to the bottom left and what
you guys what y'all are going to see is that there's a little preview of
something there that says start on it actually and if I click it will take me
to the modern UI so if the basic difference here is
that Microsoft thinks that the problem
is the absence of the start button then
they're really missing the point it's like there's two little kids and the one
kid asks for the sucker so the big kid takes like the top off and gives them
the bottom yeah it's like there there's your sucker it's like yeah you have a
sucker it's like but you like licked that one and took all the candy off it
like it's not it's not what I actually wanted like the good thing about the
start menu is small Mouse
movements think about that small Mouse movement that's what's good about a UI
is less motion fewer clicks and Metro
even with the smallest tile sizes here is going to be just just to go from one
thing to something six away is going to be all the way across your screen who
wants to do that I mean computer us users are notoriously lazy oh yeah 100%
if it takes that's why we use the computer in both points of time and you
know what I know the search is supposed to mitigate that somewhat but I honestly
I don't I don't feel it like typing to get to a program unless you already
remember the name of the program and I mean and then with the
with the new search like and the search that that sorts by control panel versus
I how have they not patched that so bad
where you search for something like uh you know it's so infrequent that I've
got something in more than one of those areas and even when I do I can just sort
through it really easy device manager brings up nothing you have to then go
and oh no I meant a setting called device manager as opposed to the game
called device
manager you know what no now someone
should make a device manager simulator simulator so it doesn't
actually do it and it's like it's and like you have to
manage like the little yellow exclamation marks that come up from
installing new hardware and process and process and like like uh formatting your
new hard drive so it should have like device and dis manager simulator I was
like wait what I know that's within dis manager but sometimes the the new dis
doesn't even show up in device manager so you have to refresh the list before
you format it brilliant y device manager
see this is why this is why l going to come into those the new line of
educational games how to use the device
manager so it's a game you can reward people on points and
like when you get 10 tasks that you've ended the process of yeah you get an
achievement and the final boss will be a
device that Windows update can't find the drivers for so you have to search
for the PCI vendor ID and the device ID and you have to go to the the PCI
database and find it and then track down a driver on some obscure like driver
repository site that doesn't give you a virus and then and and yeah exactly and
you have to like Dodge the wrong download button and everything you have
to dodge the wrong download button but they'll be moving because it's a boss fight 100% And then there won't actually
be a driver revision for your OS but the OS that it works on runs on the same
kernel so you have to modify the text file to add the support for your OS I
was so mad it took me probably 2 hours to get some Intel Nick driver working on
Windows home I knew I knew this was going to have a rout in something
I was like he's going somewhere I was so mad I was like come on it's based on
Windows 7 there is no reason this shouldn't work
oh oh well we're Intel it's a consumer Nick
B I don't care Windows Home Server is a consumer OS it's called Home Server just
because they specifically didn't write in the compatibility for that OS I
really wish that they just write out the
ones that they know it doesn't work with as opposed to having to write in the
ones that it does work with because that's what happens with older Hardware
is it doesn't get updated even if it does work like there's old Wi-Fi
adapters that will still work with Windows 8 in like compatibility mode or
whatever else yeah and then there is that old Hardware software where it
isn't hardcoded what it works on it just still works it just won't install
doesn't matter unless you fake it and then it works anyway that was my rant for this
half hour segment of the live stream not promising there won't be another one
there probably will be I don't even remember how we about those friendly old
EAS oh back to really three shots at them in one
live stream um so speaking of uh speaking of
horrible things the
HTC1 no oh the microphone the microphone
yeah I was like where are you going with this why are we saying it's horrible
it's good noia got a ban in the EU
I would think Nokia would be happy about anyone who's taking market share away
from Samsung it's like really like the lesser of two evils at this point you
guys yeah but I think I think what
they're going to turn this into is like oh we got a ban for you but we can lift
it if you pay us royalties on that microphone you got right so here
backstory for those who don't know okay so HTC had
problems I don't know seriously my bad I
was trying to go really fast dang it like I didn't have like any time I
literally like we had a bit of a condensed schedule today because we we
did go to NC today we went early and then we had to get back early in time to
do the live stream so that I can take care of the baby tonight so it's going to be a long day anyway so HTC1 banned
in Europe noia laid the hammer down microphone technology so the microphone
technology is Nokia's so Nokia fought it in the courts and was like yeah so noia
fought in the courts was like this is actually kind of our stuff you can't just put that in that without asking us
at all and HTC's being like it was our supplier
but that doesn't matter at all because you still used it in your phone um so
it's kind of a big patent War just like everything else in technology at all
ever at this point in time um I heard they're going after it in the US as well
which would basically give HTC nowhere to sell the one no except for in China
where it has an SD except in China where they revised the phone okay so get this
so they lose some of the unod of the construction of the phone so this middle
piece from the line here to the line up here pops off dual SIM and a Micro SD
slot bam I'm just like K where's mine I
mean I love the one I actually do I have an S4 I haven't been able to bring
myself to actually start using the S4 yet I've had it for like a week and a
half cuz I really love the one I have an
Android I switched blog update coming soon but uh if it had a Micro SD card it
would just be like like oh perfect cuz I
don't need the removable battery um HTC has a history with Nokia okay uh or is
it noia who is it's noia right yeah noia yeah yeah okay um apparently this is
like the 40th time that they've had this type of problem okay it's it's somewhere
in the article so if you read the uh we
didn't post the article yeah we didn't post the article so I think it's on
Daily Tech so if you go to Daily Tech I think the article's on there if you read
the article I think it's like the 40th time they've had this style of problem
not with the one but like in history so these two companies have a history so
maybe that comes into thing where you're like lesser of two eels with Samsung
maybe it doesn't matter because they just hate each other because it's just like Grudge Match time you got to wonder
like how much of the margin they make on phones goes to litigating against each
other so much like how much cheaper
would a phone be for a consumer if they didn't have to spend a butt ton of money
paying licensing fees to each other where it's just like quite frankly it's
for lack of a better word it's just a big circle jerk at a certain point where
it's like oh okay I I'll give you money and then you can give me that money and
we'll just like you know we'll we'll all tat each other on the all the lawyers in
the world are like yeah yay I'm sure the courts are just
tired of it job preservation they are you heard about the thing in the States
was that um talk to them just cuz you
told me something I'm trying to get you
there my brain hurts I had a migraine like not that long ago um what was I
going to say so I think it was in the States I haven't read way too much about
this so someone's probably going to prove me wrong somewhere um but
basically the courts are saying you guys need to stop collaborating stop helping
each other stop cooperating close your freaking doors don't talk to each other
anymore like make all your employees sign 80,000 page NDA agreements like
stop talking to each other stop using each other's things because it's just
this santic ridiculous thing of everyone suing each other so what they're trying
to say now is literally just no you use your own stuff stop suing
each other stop using each other's things oh Steve says that apparently the
uh uh apparently the sales ban is for the mics that for the phones that have
already so so the ones that they've already made are okay they have to
remanufacture new phones for that market with a different microphone um but that
will cause delays on an already hot device that everyone and their dog and
their dog's other pet are are waiting for right now so okay maybe not quite as
dire as we thought but it certainly won't be um won't be won't be bad can I
address that gu tweet really quickly sure the one below it the one below it I
hope this will be short I'm not going to go on this super long R so there was a
leaked video I have seen it it's like 20 minutes long um he shows all of the
settings in the game except like thoroughly Scrolls through them except
for his video settings what you need to learn when you're looking at stuff is
you need to look at what's not shown he does not show you the bottom of his
video settings have to give context how about the people who haven't watched it like me what are you talking about it
doesn't Elder Scrolls Online yeah what about it I just said the leaked video
yeah what about it it doesn't look very good very good okay okay okay sorry the
graphics don't look very good in the video it you're so fired today I'm not I
don't feel very good leave me alone okay so the graphics don't look
very good in the video um and a lot of people in the comments are like oh my
God this looks terrible but then if you look at released footage from tons of
other reviewers that are all saying it looks great is he playing on a GT 630 or
well the thing is there's like it shows some setting is very high some other
setting is very high but then if you notice his profile is on custom and he
does not scroll down and the scroll bar is small I'm thinking there is a ton of
options and he just choked a whole bunch of them because his whole thing was like
oh it's terrible and his name in the game was like the worst or something the
worst so I think he's trying to troll what I would what I'm trying to say is
wait he should have gotten the beta key instead of that guy that's what you're
trying to say right 100% no no no okay there's Boll that's been released by
other reviewers that was like taken with
fraps but by Bethesda so you have to assume and know at that point in time
that they are running at the max possible settings yes on like multiple
Titans very possibly so you're looking at the best possible use case and you're
looking at the worst possible use case that this guy could fend angle so it
looks okay by showing you the very very little tiny bit of the top of the video
settings just wait till open beta's out
wait till whatever you don't have to buy the game open Beta is going to release
at some point in time they've already said that it's going to be open you're going to be able to play it before you
have to buy it okay as long as you jump on for open Beta I mean so just wait
it'll be so it all comes back to my strategy which is to just not pay
attention at all I dropped $250 on Star
Citizen I haven't looked at a single email they've sent me cuz I'm just going
to drop right in there and I'm gonna just go for it ass I have any time Elder
SCS online could look terrible personally I don't care I still play mowind Graphics aren't the biggest
problem for me mowind is so brutal though mowind looks terrible I still
love it it Elder Scrolls games for me it doesn't matter it's the gameplay some
games Heist he's going to talk about Elder Scrolls for another five minutes
sorry I tried to make this short um
games like Elder Scrolls I like the gameplay I like the storyline I like
being able to free roam all that kind of stuff certain games um like Bioshock and
Tomb Raider gain a huge aspect because they look so good wait see I'm be
like the environment is huge different games I care more anyways I'm going to
try and not talk too much about this so we can actually talk about something
else ever okay so why don't we uh let's do a little bit of Twitter let's do a
little bit of Twitter questions um why did I get a broken PSU
delivered I don't know man bad luck cuz you ordered a power supply and you're
unlucky yeah and your name is full name
and you're at handle is question when is
the new 14 nanometer Intel plant and Intel going to start I have no idea what
I can tell you guys though is that we just saw an architecture change so there
will be a process shrink at some point what they normally do is they
manufacture simple things like flash nand or nand Flash I guess is the
correct order of that um so they manufacture simple things like Nan Flash
before they start or chipsets for example before they start manufacturing
uh CPUs there so probably not for a
while but I guess we'll see apparently it was only in the Netherlands not the
whole EU the article I read said EU I read one that said Netherlands and I
asked you and then the article I read said EU I don't know okay okay well
there you go we don't mean to misinform y'all but apparently it happens from
time to especially prepping for last stream was really rush you know what we
should really have is we should have a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen like a psychic we actually have no idea
what we're talking information for entertainment purposes
only like like a psychic yeah the disclaimer to end all disclaimers you
know that's the thing that kills me is the people who believe in psychics even
though by law they have to have that disclaimer it's like it's like not
believing that cigarettes will put tar in your lungs it's like it's on the
box it's on the screen they use it in
production and now that we have now that we have HD TVs and we can actually read
remember when all the little fine print used to be actually not possible to read
that was the best and that was actually like a problem and blah blah blah blah
blah yeah now now we can read it so now there's no excuse for you know I like
Miss Clara or whatever her name is Miss Clara yeah there's no there's a psychic
like oh I don't follow Miss uh Miss Cleo or something like that whatever it
doesn't matter um I have a 6870 oh this is a good question my 6870
um twin frozer has a non-reference PCB so there is no full cover block
available what do you think of VGA only water cooling if you can honestly
normally what people end up doing in order to make it work is custom making
like the mosfet and RAM heat sinks it's not even that hard by like cutting up
old you know like CPU heat sinks or whatever you got to do you can buy them
you can buy them but a lot of the time the ones you buy are not good enough so
be really careful make sure you have good contact make sure you clean the
chips appropriately use a really good thermal adhesive uh for example the one
that's in my wife's computer I used not the ones that come on swiftex MC1 14s
but I used the ones that I bought after Market 3M thermal adhesive that's
balling and that's the only reason they don't come off also don't use little
tiny heat sinks unless you're planning to actually aim a fan at the GPU as well
use beefy heat sinks use awesome heat sinks like cut up old CPU heat sinks and
make the fins this long if it's on a vrm component if you do it properly it's
fine otherwise it's a bit of an issue yeah um so it's doable but it's sketchy
and be careful and be thorough so I got ahead of myself and uh I kind of thought
that his question was about something else but speaking of non-reference cards
we did a really cool episode of NC Tech tips today um oh I'm going to eat a
pickle off screen because someone sent me a very kindly worded email last week
they asked me not to eat pickles on camera but I'm hungry and I haven't
eaten much you're going to eat pickles stream but off camera yeah over and
you're probably going to try and interject in what I'm saying probably going to talk you're going to cover it
adequately this time you're fired my brain
hurts I just had a headache so what we did was we took a 650ti boost
and pitted it against a 6 650ti boost overclock Edition from MSI and pitted
against a reference card from EVGA a 660
so two different gpus one is a step
behind but overclocked from the factory and one is a step ahead but not
overclocked from the factory and unlike how we do it at Linus Tech tips where we
just overclock everything this was ntx Tech tips so neither were overclocked by
us there was the one that was overclocked from the factory and the one that wasn't and the one that wasn't was
a 660 and the one that was was 660 Ti boost 650 TI boost sorry um we then
played what was it crisis 2 Far Cry 3 wi
and Witcher 2 um actually anyways I'm not going to get
into that because I'm not sure what I supposed to say about that um but yeah we did those three games and then pitted
them against each other and I don't even know what the result was which is one
reason why I have to interject because remember you're the only one that has the numbers for this okay well I'm
almost done my pickle you're still eating a pickle on the stream then
um okay you were chewing when you came on I'm sorry all right so results wise
it was really interesting because I have a lot of people ask
me which you know 660 Ti should I get
and the answer is unless you're buying the cheapest one get a
670 okay which 650 TI boost should I get
the cheapest one or get a 660
because even though the 650 TI was overclocked from the factory our 660 or
did I say 6 even though the see this is so confusing even though the 650 TI
boost was overclocked from the factory our 660 vanilla reference bone stock
card outperformed it by 10% while being only 10 bucks more expensive so that's a
5% difference in price for a 10% difference in performance now here's
something that you guys need to understand about over clocking Headroom
reference cards versus non-reference cards sometimes a reference card will
have X amount of overclocking Headroom over the stock reference clock and then
a non-reference card will have y amount of overclocking Headroom but it's not
like overclocks three times as much it doesn't work that way it's it's a GPU
limitation so if it overclocks a little bit more then it might get a slightly
higher you know Factory clock but that ceiling is still pretty close so that
reference card hasn't been overclocked yet meaning that
okay so we got our 65 like let's say the Gap is like this and our 650 TI boost
makes it to here because it has a factory overclock but there's still a 10% Delta okay that doesn't mean that
both of these cards can still overclock this much and the difference will always
be like that this one has had some of its overclocking Headroom used up so it
might make it this much further whereas this has used no overclocking Headroom
it can go this much further but maybe not quite this much further so that
difference in performance I know this isn't a very good visual but the point
is that you have a certain amount of overclocking head room if they use it up
at the factory they used it up at the factory it's not like you couldn't have
taken a reference card and overclocked it to where that factory OC card is
sometimes there is a binning process something like an EVGA classified card
something like an a Seuss Aries level card something like an Rog card Matrix
card they are binning those they are making sure that those are the
most overclockable gpus our Matrix 7970
was a beast destroyed everything single
GPU that we've seen to date other than the Titan absolute Beast so unless but
these mildly overclocked cards you know like a superclock or a superclock plus I
would be looking more into other things if you're getting a aftermarket cooler instead of a reference cooler like audio
levels um you might get better temperatures if you specifically really
really want low temperatures um looks looks stuff like that so if
those are your factors then okay by all means look at a lower tier card that has
other features that you appreciate maybe you want different connectors on the
back yeah this is something to consider but if you're thinking gaming
performance buy a better
card that's it same thing for dual GPU
buy a better card overclock it yourself two 650 TI boosts or a single 670 buy a
670 single GPU card
and buy the best GPU you can
afford so there that was my lecture on that there's there's weird kind of
there's exceptions there's exceptions to the rule like uh 660ti Hawk from Power
Edition from MSI when that first released was a better deal than a 670
but then now things have changed BL now it's been nerfed a little bit so yeah um
but like yeah there's slight exceptions to the rule but that's usually just kind of how it goes and there are other
exceptions to the rule so some such as 670 versus 680 a factory overclocked 670
can get pretty darn close to 680 performance 680 does cost a lot more in
a lot of cases especially once you get up to the higher tier cards The Rules
start to change so usually the best bang
for the buck well the best Extreme Performance bang for the buck is the
second one down so as long as it's based on the same GPU as the high-end one a
lot of the time you'll get very similar frequencies but it'll have some uh some
Cuda cor some SMX unit some stream processors whatever they
happen to be called it'll have some disabled so it'll be slightly lower performance but it'll be darn close as
long as you've got enough vram then it's often better to go with that option
versus the higher end card but I still wouldn't spend
$400 on you know a 660 Ti if that'll get
me a 670 no matter what no matter how OC and like you know
Uber it is the only thing I would worry about at that point is like uh what I'm
doing with my build but if I'm buying a $400 card I'm hoping on water cooling
yeah yeah I okay water cooling is another one because then that won't show
the if I don't like a reference cooler that won't show the reference cooler
certain reference coolers like the Titan I kind of want to leave that cuz that
reference cooler is just so cool like I don't want to change the reference
cooler I almost don't even want to water cool it I just want to leave it how it is because it looks so good um we should
almost maybe cool it with our what's what's the deal with the a party this
week I don't know what's the deal because we've got 25 minutes left oh
let's do our let's do our news items from the Forum of the week and let's do
our our build blogs of the week and all that kind of stuff then yeah are we going to talk about the Forum in General
on the Afterparty or yeah let's move that to after party so let's do our uh
so Community news items guys the lonus tech tips forum is awesome now now
finally it's actually awesome here you here okay you know what let's let's do
okay are you ready for this uh no I'm not ready for this okay I I have a
feeling oh God everyone go to lusch tips.com right now let's see what
happens let's see see Slick's doing it
give to peer pressure Linus tips.com go go go go go go I think it doesn't care
will it handle it so we are at a we are at a hosting service now it is no longer
being hosted at NC so bandwidth is no
longer as much of a concern now when we first were hosting it at NC bandwidth
wasn't the issue um the issue was actually caused by V bulletins
inefficiencies compared to what we're using now which is IPS um so then by the
time V bulletin started to get a little bit more efficient um ncx moved a lot of
their operation okay well it crashed fine so it looks like it can only handle
so much so um it's holding oh it made it
okay NC moved part of their operation to the place where we were hosting it and
they had to throttle our internet connection so we only had what 25 megabit up so now we have about 800
megabit up and instead of the homemade
server that we were using before 1,400 users online thanks guys
you guys are awesome um and instead of the
um what was I even saying I can't believe that page even
refreshed um damn okay I got to do a shout out thank you mod team in general
for helping me over like the three days that I didn't sleep thank you Mr Wizard
for just like hauling The Forum into
existence because there was no other way that was happening um and thank you
windspeed for the current hosting situation yeah one of our moderators all
those things coming in like without all the mods coming in and helping me
without Mr Wizard like just championing the entire thing without IPS making that
converter actually work like there was so many groups that actually made we
didn't want to promise anything cuz we weren't sure if all these stars were
going to align especially with all the things that had gone wrong up till now
yeah and there was like there was a lot of stuff that actually made this possible so thanks everybody that helped
me over the last little while actually make this happen so we're running on an
octacore server with 32 gigs of RAM with 800 megabit up and we're on a proper
hosting service now guys Welcome to The
Forum The Forum is awesome it's been Super Active like I don't know how often
you click the view new content button up at the top right holy crap guys honestly
I've spent the last three days in the control panel if you have a question uh
like I I've started posting honestly I was at the point where I was frustrated
with the old for I couldn't even use it I was pretty much only operating through PMS yeah I mean at this point I am I'm
finding this the most enjoyable form I've ever been a member of because I
look at any question and like even if I try to ninja and get in there and like
be the first one to answer I can't be and people are friendly which is one
thing that I actually really like and I you know what I'm I'm going to be making
a point and you should too and guys we all should of keeping the community
friendly I don't want to see like let me Google that for you links I don't want
to see this should be obvious to you I don't want to see any kind of put Downs
because I want Linus Tech tips Forum to be the place where people can go and
have a friendly discussion even if they don't understand the topic and you know
obviously obvious troll is obvious is going to happen from time to time let
the moderation team deal with it flag it it if you think it's a problem our
moderation team's good we now actually have a report system that works before I
know it just popped up and I and I like and I moderated something and it just
worked yeah I was like what you got to be kidding me so before the report
system from before people that reported before thank you that helped but the
only person doing it was me so it was really really hard to keep up with that
many reports and those of you who sent me PMS before my inbox has been broken
for weeks I'm sorry like I wanted to reply to you he actually was not able to
reply I typed up replies like this long and I'd click Send and it just oh oh
okay oh that's good it just disappear so
now the PM system is properly working everyone lost their PMS I'm sorry if I
gave if I gave Invision power Services more time they would have made it work
but we wanted the Forum going I did not give them enough time they they gave me
like the files and they were like this might work for most things probably
maybe and I was like all right we're doing it so cuz it worked enough
attachments kind of broke PMS don't exist anymore um signatures kind of
broke a little bit like there's there's a few things that broke but for the most
part it's working fine and we have almost
18 us on there is no way the V Bulls in
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it's not nearly efficient enough and our old server couldn't our old CPU used to
max out at 100% CPU load at times during the day with like 300 people on with
like 300 people on whereas now we have 1,700 people on and I think you said we
had 300 people on before and it was like 3% CPU yeah just doesn't care it's just
so much more efficient right now but uh guys yeah Welcome to The Forum ask your
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thank you guys for hanging with hanging in there with us yeah I mean we uh
people like okay I'm going to directly call out a random for member ghost hello
I don't even know if you watch the forums um he was a huge massive poster
like one of oural huge I post a ton people and his
post count started rotting and for no reason like we both just a jerk and
started taking post count away from him no idea why and like like everything
else broke so he's like yo I'm just going to wait and I'll come back later he's back so that's awesome he came back
like the minute that we launched the new form it's like cuz we felt bad we're
like these people are trying to contribute and help us build a community
here and we appreciate it and we're not giving them a good enough platform yeah
and like I used ghost but he wasn't the only case of that yeah and like it's one
of those things where it's like the people in this room here lost sleep over
that bad situation a lot of sleep so you
know yeah thank you guys for hanging in there with us and we're proud to deliver
you a platform that actually works now and also proud to uh see that we have
2900 live viewers right now this is one of our biggest live streams Ever So yeah
thank you guys so much for uh for coming in and hanging out with us so let's do
our community news items uh we want the new section of lus tech tips Forum to be
like awesome we want it to be up to dat and we want one of the ways that we can
help you guys you know feel great about contributing to be that we will call you
out on the live stream and let you know that things are uh that your posts are
awesome and they are appreciated so we have member mono here who posted a PC
per article about AMD improving Crossfire performance with a prototype
driver now it just so happen happens that I was sitting right next to Ryan
shout from PC perr as he was writing this article because I was at an ASUS
conference and he happened to be there as well um that was about Intel's
upcoming Haswell CPUs um and ASUS motherboards that'll go with them and
the ecosystem that goes around it so I was looking over his shoulder I was
like I'm uh I'm I'm looking at what you got here Ryan what you got here what you
got here Ryan and he's like dude I'm trying to write an article I'm like yeah
yeah what you got what you got it was actually awesome this is the first time
I've met Ryan in person uh super cool guy we didn't get much of a chance to
hang out cuz we weren't there very long but um but anyway he was showing me um
obviously I didn't have to rely on YouTube anyway big thanks to Mono for
contributing this uh this topic he was showing me I didn't have to watch
YouTube links he had it all locally on his computer which was great side by
sides of how there was so much more visual tearing in the release driver and
then the Prototype driver guys this prototyp type driver is probably 6 to 10
weeks from an actual release it's not the beta drivers it is not the currently
downloadable data drivers no it is a prototype it's a completely different
thing it's not even based on the current 13.5 it's based on an older like 12
point something driver if I recall correctly I don't know that but it's
based on an old ass driver and um I
meant I yeah I wasn't saying you're wrong I was I have no information yeah
no so it's based on an old driver but it
is addressing the um the frame time
differences which can cause AMD Crossfire solutions to have high frame
rates but choppy actual perceived
performance that's what it's causing right now and this prototype driver
hasn't made it as good as NVIDIA's solution yet because NVIDIA has Hardware
that takes care of this but it's a software fix that makes it look way
better so it's basically taking games that are already optimized for the card
on crappier older drivers not crappier but you know older less optimized
drivers throwing in this Frame time smoothing algorithm and bringing it up
to 20% better than a much newer much more optimized per game Driver so the
future is bright for Crossfire owners however his conclusion in the review
which is what I think he was writing when I was standing over him was okay
that still doesn't mean I can recommend the 7990 cuz it comes with a butt ton of
games and this is all good eight GES but the gaming experience today what you get
for $1,000 today is not what this
prototype driver is that won't be available for a while and when the
driver comes with the fix we'll look at it again but it's not there yet and I
think that's a very fair and honest conclusion so um anyway it was it was
cool to sort of stand over him and have him explain in person it's one thing to
read a review from a from you know a highly technical author it's another to
sit next to them while they're writing the article and have them explain their thoughts processes every word goes onto
the page so it was very cool big shout out to Ryan PC per on Twitter so guys go
go say hi to Ryan because apparently I can just say go to a website and you
guys will do it you guys are awesome so go say hi to Ryan let's like flood his
Twitter right now at PCP r at PC per
thanks Ryan for hanging out with lonus lonus thinks you're cou C you're C leave
off the L yeah leave off the L lonus thinks you're coup you can put an
apostrophe though yeah
Perfect all right so one of the other community news items was actually uh
something we covered already but I want to give credit where credit is due to
our Forum contributors Joe Z is the one who posted this article with this
picture showing an HTC1 with the removable back that shows micro SD
expansion and dual SIM expansion so that
is the Chinese model and I want one I
didn't realize how big the removal back was I wonder if this means
that super technical people maybe with special screwdrivers or something it's a
different phone different internals are going to be able to get inside and
change the battery no no no because it's a unibody back on the North American
model and the battery is still battery is still non- removable and based on the
tooling process of this phone the sandwich construction there's no way
they're getting in there fully okay cuz like people like iFix it or whatever
they're called they usually find ways even when people say it's not yeah they
can find I just I really doubt it it's built so solidly like yeah no I'm not
I'm not like you might be able to you might be able to take it apart but I can't imagine you'd ever be able to put
it back together with the same fit and finish that it has right and that's some
that's a thing oh of course yeah um okay
and then our next one is
from oh I'm really excited about this so
you guys know okay while I might not be oh Josie again you're on a roll ASUS
introduces external Deck with 120 DB sound to noise ratio 600 ohm headphone
amp and swappable op amps the essence s
T no nothing about price absolutely
nothing about price which is like okay thanks ASUS cuz this doesn't tell me how
it compares to something like an Essence one or an Essence one Muse
Edition no idea cuz the essence one is an external Deck with a headphone amp
that's capable of driving 600 ohm headphones and Muse Edition is like
slight Improvement on that this looks like it might be slightly lower end than
Essence one uh essence essence one looks like it had more stuff
yeah slightly more features here if we just kind of control plus this so you
guys can check it out as well it looks classier in my opinion very classy
looking the essence one has kind of like um like a weird industrial design that's
kind of unusual yeah this looks like a piece of audio equipment which is very
cool yeah um so and the thing that okay
the thing that um the two things that confuse me about this are that they're
calling it audio file grade which audio files are the only ones who are allowed
to call something audio file grade A lot of the time um yeah it's like it's part
of the it's that's a thing well they called the last one audio follow grade
as well they did but it's It also says
so sort of bringing some like the quality of an Essence St or STX to an
external unit but offers even more premium audio quality plus easy controls
and connectivity to notebooks so what is it is it something like an st STX zents
class card in an external box which has advantages so reduced interference as
well as the clean signal that is USB as well as being able to plug it into a
notebook or is it a even higher end solution I don't quite know but I'm
really excited to try it out yeah that should be really cool I hope we get a
hope we get one I hope we get one if anyone from ASUS is watching speaking of
if anyone from Blackberry is watching which I said before we have a contact at
Blackberry now zed10 coming Q10 coming
later so I am going to be doing a Blackberry ey switched hopefully like
people would just keep on releasing random phones you just never get to stop
doing I switched they tried to deliver it today oh really but no one was here
so it'll be it'll come on Monday z10's coming so once I finish Android and then
once I finish I'm like how am I going to do all this maybe we should have you do
the Blackberry I switched I'd actually be okay with you're a hardcore Android
guy this would be interesting guys hit
at slick PC on Twitter and let him know what you think slick PC on Twitter right
there actually that's his that's his penis but um sort of the like the
overlay that's covering that um hit at slick PC on Twitter and let him know if
you think he should be the one to host the Blackberry eye
switch so of course now I'm going to have to do it well but I'm kind of
interested in Blackberry they might not want you to so which one is the one that has the keyboard on it that's a Q10 so
q10's coming probably uh a few weeks later or something I would rather try
that one you should try both sure so it
should be you have to have the touchscreen Blackberry 10 experience and
the button Blackberry 10 experience or something something like that would make
a ton of sense would really educate people not only about the bb10
experience but also which of these two Flagship grade phones is actually better
for me right so yeah yeah that'll be interesting so he's an S3 user so it'll
be like what it'll be what will it be like to go from this mature platform
this mature handset I don't know where I put my phone to this like new platform
been like I've had my S3 for a while now and I'm very comfortable with my current
configuration let me tell you going from Comfort Zone to new phone platform which
is why like I'm excited to try new things but at the same time I'm like h a
all the things that just work I know my S3 I like really know my S3 all right so
we've got a couple more things guys we want you to post your build logs in the
lineus tech tips Forum because build logs are fun for people to look at they
are fun for what serious ly he's this is the case that he used oh this is the
case okay so we got a big shout out for tasty pctv tasty PCT TV on YouTube
that's the girl with the duck face that uh does videos on the YouTube and I
think she uh I think her build was black and red and his build's black and red
okay so he posted her her video yeah I don't know
um um I forget what I was saying yeah we want you guys to post your your builds H
because people love seeing your builds people love comment on builds I think
people love having others comment on their builds so here we've got quite the
GPU lineup here that looks like a couple
580s or 680s he didn't end up using all those didn't end up using all I didn't
read way too into it because I did not have time I'm sorry this this week's live stream was crazy because we had to
try and figure everything out um but like he he gets down into it pictures
start coming pretty quick all right see I like this I've done this before where
alternating mixing and matching the RAM see how the RAM sticks match the dim
slot nice little touches like that I like it yeah yeah I totally like that
100% approve of this the only time I usually go against that is with super
clean uh finish RAM like original
dominators mhm and um mushkin silver
lines the old ones remember when it just said mushkin on it like a full set of
that looked so good that's true true but
remember that one with the two Kingston sticks and the two Anon sticks where
they had a similar style of spreader but they were alternate colors blue and
black oh that looks see like that looks really cool yeah yeah for sure all right
oh yeah taking apart the graphics card that must be a Titan gk110 yep let look
at all them RAM that RAM so he works at a computer
shop okay I don't know if this was for a customer or not I just remember he works
at a computer shop he got coair link to work so yeah so Kudos uh that back
mounted SSD love that very cool very just very clean ax860 looks like that
was colored oh oh no unless it's an 860i in
which case it should be red can't tell can't tell from here okay he got cbles
going directly into it so that nice water cooling is very possibly the C
wait is that it STX um doesn't he need power going to
that not sure yeah it might come later he hasn't he hasn't got everything wired
up yet very nice sleeved uh very nice sleeved cables very nice see the way
he's used um here too just so it just so it gets
down under those C like looks very good makes it look much more clean I'm too
cheap to buy angled fittings personally but you definitely planned it out which
is nice planning makes the build look so much stronger yeah um not the best
photography skills I've ever seen but I don't think we should penalize but it
could also be like a phone yeah that's it probably is based on how much noise
there is in the images yeah so don't worry Alpha Cool's Uber thick radiator
look at that thing that's so be see that's how big a G1 quar fitting is
there guys love it absolutely love it so
here's what the machine looks like good in its native environment very very nice
love that microphone setup that is what this is the kind of thing that diesel
was using where he had like diesel had like a prograde like studio recording
microphone that he was using for voice chatting games it's like screw seeing my
third monitor I don't even care yeah I'm too good for that like too leite that's
awesome so yeah featured build this week I didn't even catch the name I'm sorry
Kenny 6 great job you got featured
project banana phones all right I'm going to let you walk through this one
I'm going to have the last piece of my pickle uh go down to oh I have to use
this little tiny keyboard I'm eating my pickle I'm dizzy oh sorry guys this is
might actually take page down function page where is it there we go that's not
working that's still not working that's not working okay so using
an R4 I'm G to skip through these pretty quick because it's fairly basic stuff
until we kind of get to the second page he's just showing whoa he he strips it
and then he Paints the back so it's white because it's an R4 gorgeous so
he's matching the other slots that's really cool yep those little touches
make all the difference um and like he
had to take shroud off so that he could
get to it properly right right so it makes sense so that is great and looks
really cool because there's like you don't see that uh what's going on here I
wanted to do it but then I was just lazy and busy mod his back plate
so here's like a in progress shot the graph C is not in there yet a lot of
stuff isn't in there yet but like AMD build that's another reason why I wanted
to bring it on I don't think we've had one yet I don't think we've had one yet
um so that's kind of cool to see it's funny cuz I got trash so hard for saying
something like the majority of Enthusiast gaming builds are Intel and
it's just like guys I don't make the rules people are like oh L is Intel Fanboy he said the majority it's like no
it's just it is the numbers are just kind of there yeah I don't know what
what you want from us um these are people quoting his post so I I got a
little bit confused by this but it's people quoting his post so you see the same picture like a billion times I love
that back mounted SSD back SD mind you the way they do that in the R4 is not my
favorite you have to take the motherboard off to be able to take it off or put it on which is kind of weird
because you have to screw in from the motherboard can't see you he's gesturing
to the camera I talk with my hands leave me alone so to make his cables look nice
he used extensions which is a really good way to go save money and time
because it looks just as good on this angle except you can see them coming
from the power supply but like where you're mainly looking it looks just as good from this angle so this is a
slightly in progress shot you can kind of see um the PCI oh crap like the back
there where he painted it where it's white looks great matches everything
else there's a better shot of that you should gesture with the mouse as opposed to with your hand I know that's why I
said oh crap um I'm really not good at using
this little tiny keyboard there you go white point with the mouse not your hand
where is it why okay I'm just going to take over
okay why don't you talk but I'll just direct it okay so guys right there
that's the white definitely seen that you can definitely go down now okay
there's a we've kind of seen that shot already yeah just kind of some items and
stuff shout to the hardware he's got he's got his CPU Cooler on there go down
though page two you have to go page CPU go to page two who even posts stock CPU
Cooler okay he's fired oh there
that's more like it told you okay he
starts he starts his water cooling ins so really long runs one thing I was
interested in is if he could flip the radiator over I know looking at
clearance maybe because of the ports that it might not fit but there might be
some type of custom modding maybe point with the mouse yeah okay so the radiator
here maybe some type of custom modding that he could do to take that bracket
off right there and then he might actually be able to fit the radiator the
other way around the advantage of turning the radiator the other way is
also that it enables it to bleed the air bubbles out much more e because they'll
to the top where the holes will be yeah and then like like so way shorter runs
so it'll look cleaner and then uh natural bleeding like he just said so
that's actually that would be nice I'm I'm thinking what he did was he put it
the other way and it didn't fit but if he could find some way to take because
that's where hard drive cages right if you could find some way to take that off
yep without like damaging everything is it possible that he could add a GPU
Block in the future then this run would make more sense so then that's even yeah
that's completely true there we go still very clean looking it looks nice it's
just the runs could be shorter which is I don't know it's not y it's not the
biggest deal but it looks really yeah it looks really good very attainable build
and uh so that is that is a build from
Antarctic cash that is the uh that is
the strangest that is the strangest name
that I think that I've seen on the for are you sure that was the poster check the because those are quotes that you're
reading yep Antarctic cash okay cool
so there you go that looks so good the back with the with the colored back on
the graphics card all right so let's go back to our back to our regular view of
the live stream and I think that pretty much oh it's it's
5:30 can you like look it's like there's light outside and we're done the live
stream isn't this weird done yeah well
done after Pary is coming later so I've had quite a few people complain that uh
they don't want Afterparty to not be uploaded to YouTube so I'm thinking
Afterparty goes on YouTube with a link in the description of the regular live
stream and it'll be an unlisted video but you can click the link in the
description you can watch Afterparty should you so desire so that is it for
the Linus Tech tips live stream for this week we'll see you guys next week and
we'll be back in just a moment with some Afterparty action where it's less
structured I can't imagine it being less structured than what we just
did same time next week 4M yeah yeah
this time guys put it in your calendar I can't believe how many people ask me every week when the live stream is it
could be first time viewers you don't know no sometimes it's the same guys
I've like seen this happen and you know what's funny is I've never changed the
I've changed the time once now this is it this is the first time since I
started it it's been 900 p.m. Friday night now we're moving to 400 p.m Friday
afternoon and uh I think this is going to work yeah I think this is going to
work look how many people tuned in today 30 it's a way better time slot it's a
way better time slot it's unfortunate for the people that can't watch it now but overall it's a way better time slot
we'll see you guys next week thanks for thanks for tuning in