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I'm here live in studio with the one and

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only deadmau5. Hey, can I Can I Can I put my arm around you like this?

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I mean Can I kind of rub your back like this? Can I Can I kind of grab your ass like

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this?

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Did you just light up a cigar? No. Have you actually opened this? No, I haven't.

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I like to keep a fresh perspective when I open something for the first time.

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They'll even go and reseal boxes for me. Of course, your first question is

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probably what exactly is it that I have not unboxed yet. It's a collaborative

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product between 45 Drives, who you may remember from their servers that hold 45

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Drives or more, and the one and only

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deadmau5, and it's called the 45 Studio,

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and it is a silent, high-performance,

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local network storage device that is explicitly for Oh, wow, it's

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really sexy. Sorry, explicitly for

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>> [music] >> content creators. Not just sexy content creators. I know, I I feel excluded from

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this list. I would hate for you to feel excluded, Joel. So, why don't you talk

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me through some of what you contributed to this collaborative endeavor? Tell me

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what makes this ideal for a musician.

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You've hooked me onto 45 Drives, and you've done absolutely nothing to accommodate my needs, right? But, we're

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talking from the OG storage units that I

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got, and then eventually upgrading to a storage unit or something like that.

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These units, they got fans, and they are loud. Like, for my needs, it was fine

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because, you know, I've got my machine room. I can tuck that thing away and and

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let it pound the sound. But, that's a privilege to just have an isolated space

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that's separate from their studio space. Correct. I always thought like, how cool

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would this thing be like on my desk and I could just like, you know, have there,

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pick up, bring to my video editor's

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place, you know, in a car or something like that, and just have them have it

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sit on the desk. Right. So, quiet is As for the art on there, language on

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that is Strudel. See this young woman

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on Twitch that live codes music, and it's insane. I want to crack this open

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because You can put a little heat sink on a Raspberry Pi. Good job. You created

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a silent system. Creating a silent, high-performance system, that takes a

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little bit more work. Let's grab a screwdriver. Hey, uh since I'm walking

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around you here, I noticed this is a wonderful hoodie you're wearing. Where

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Where did you get that? Thank you. Uh

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You're a fun guy. Let me see it. Oh, you haven't even seen it? Oh, you're You're

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wearing the same one as me. So, you got some PCIe slots on there. Got like a

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cool patch on the hood. It's pretty gangster. Whole thing's UV reactive

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because, of course, it is. I'm going to have mortgage payments, guy. I just

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recently got my unit. So, we have the same unit. Hey, there we go. All right,

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non-ferrous screws. I know they're higher quality, but

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the 45 Drives. All right, here it is. Check this out.

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Did I hear you correctly? So, that's a vapor chamber base with eight heat

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pipes. So, we've got four running over to this side where we've got these

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copper plates that have a thermal interface material over to these giant

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fins on the side. Then, we've got four more over to the other side. You might

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look at these fins and go, "Okay, well, hey, those aren't very dense fins. Is

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that really going to be that great?" And you're kind of right because it's not as

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much surface area as if you had a bunch of really dense little fins. But, it

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turns out that for passive cooling, you actually don't want the most dense fins

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because you've got to have enough room for the air to heat up next to them, and

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then for convection to take place and carry that heat up away from the system.

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That is a tiny motherboard. This is cool, too. I'm surprised that more

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system builders don't do this. It's a simple little 3D printed part, and it

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performs a simple function, but it's really important. What this does is it

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goes right here over the two passive heat sinks that are already integrated

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onto the motherboard, and it allows them to have intakes at the very bottom, and

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then creates a chimney for them to exhaust their heat up rather than

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allowing them to get heat saturated by all the parts around them that under

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heavy load could be kicking out a fair bit of heat into the inside of the

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chassis. Oh, wow, the power supply is passive, too. That's just chillin'

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there. No pun intended. Well, pun a little bit intended because the system

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doesn't consume that much power. So, the CPU is a quad-core, eight-thread affair.

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This one's configured with 64 gigs of DDR5 memory. It's got a Kingston NVMe

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boot drive, and then you can have up to eight SATA SSDs in the front. Why don't

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we take a look at the back? Do you see it as a problem that it's only got a

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couple USB ports, a VGA video output,

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and then it's got what looks like dual 10 gig Ethernet [music] interfaces? I I

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I do and I don't. This thing's network accessible, so it's just kind of a turn

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it on, let it boot, and then get it on the web server. My only real criticism

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about these kind of devices are the as VGA output. Theoretically, it shouldn't

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be a problem cuz you've got your management port here. You can [music] reconfigure the BIOS. You can install an

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operating system. You never have to hook a display up to it. But, yeah, okay. If

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you do, VGA can feel like a bit of a downer, but that's just standard in the

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server space, and this is a server-grade motherboard, so you're kind of going to

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have to live with it. All right, I'm going to get the panel thrown on, and then I guess we should talk about our

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of drives we were going to be putting in there. Good question. So, like other 45

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Drives products, this is a a BYO kind of

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situation in terms of the drives that you equip it with. As for what we chose,

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it's probably whatever we had eight of lying around.

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Ah, yes. As advertised, it's a [ __ ] mix.

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Can you do that? Oh, yeah. You guys are running open-source Rocky Linux on this

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thing. So, investment disclosure, invested in HexOS aside, say for an

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example, you could take these two Micron 5300 Pro Enterprise drives. You could

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pop them into two of the bays over here, and run those in a RAID 1. That's like

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super, super safe. If one of these two drives dies, everything is still there

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on the remaining drive. Then, you could take another six drives like these Team

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Group EX2s. You throw them over here, and you could run these in like a RAID

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Z1. So, that would allow you to have one of these six drives fail, and then the

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remaining five would still have all the data. But, if a second one failed,

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>> [music] >> then you're kind of out of luck. It does require you to do a little bit more of

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your own research [music] before deploying something like this, but I think the flexibility is absolutely

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worth it. Also, this is our first chance to have a look at the front. How

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gorgeous is that? All right, let's go ahead and slide these drives in. I am

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liking this drive sled mechanism. Drive goes in,

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little mechanism pops out. It's like a Super Nintendo. It's like a

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do a shot of you blowing on it and putting it in. >> [laughter]

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>> This is something worth noting, though. Plug any storage [snorts] device,

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especially one that is using RAID or one

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that can be configured with RAM as a write buffer into [music] a UPS, an

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uninterruptible power supply with a battery in it. You do not want things

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like this to be unexpectedly powered off. Or like, living out in the middle

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of the woods where every 2 weeks in winter a tree falls over a power line.

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Or also just like, being way too hard, you know?

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And awesome. No, not that kind of hard. Like like hardcore. I learned a very

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hard lesson about the difference between a Cat 5 and a Cat 6 cable at my Red Rock

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show. What were you trying to do over 10 gig? Basically, my delivery system where

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all the music comes out to communicates to OSC, which is the UDP protocol. But,

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on that same network, I also send NDI to

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front of house [music] as a kind of virtual monitors so I can kind of see

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what I'm doing. I didn't have a network cable to go to the router basically that

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went to front of house. I just looked at the back of the telephone in the hotel

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room, and it had an RJ45 in it, so I just stole it. Everything was just kind

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of working, but not, you know, lagging

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and dropping frames everywhere. I'm like, "Dude, this was working fine the

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other day. I don't know what's wrong." And we traced the problem back to the

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RJ45, which was a Cat 5 cable because it

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was used for a telecom system, and I'm trying to send 10 gig down it.

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Might have even been defective, too. You can actually have a 100 megabit link

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even if one of your signaling pairs is damaged. I think the takeaway is is is

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don't steal cables from telephones in hotel rooms. And stop taking the towels

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in the gym at Smash Champs. But, steal the pillows. Take their

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pillow, put it in your pillow shank, and then take your crap pillow, put it in

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their pillow shank. By the time they notice, you're long gone. That is not

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financial advice. No. >> [laughter] >> All right, let's go ahead and fire up

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this NAS. I'll put my thirst extinguisher there just in case Joel

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gets thirsty. I'm okay. Probably the only guy that's ever smoked

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in here, too. Probably, actually. Smoking also not financial advice.

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You know what's kind of crazy is I think this monitor is louder than the system.

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Like it has a bit of coil whine. Hey, there we

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go. This was working the whole time. We just had a bunk monitor. Very nice. I

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don't know what the password is. I'm going to go with

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Type cookie. Deadmau5 is the greatest.

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I understand what people are trying to do by setting like better default

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passwords, but also just don't. I might have found something here. On fresh

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machines, the user is root and the password is 45 big D small R exclamation

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point v e s. Let's try that. Let's go.

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Okay. >> [music] >> 45 drives?

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Don't do that. We have successfully started using the computer the way that

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it is completely not intended to be used [music] like a desktop. Give us a few

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while we log in. Simple setup. We just

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had to get to this point. Okay, best practice storage architecture. We're

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going to set up ZFS for robust storage, Samba for network sharing, and we're

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going to configure our client backups automatically. That's right. 45 drives

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knows that you're going to be a lazy son of a [ __ ] They're going to make sure

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that you run backups on the regular so that [music] it's both on your computer,

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you dumb son of a [ __ ] and also on your NAS like a smart son of a [ __ ]

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All right, server name. Deadmau5 is great.

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He made me do that. Is it going to go Deadmau5 is neat? Is neat?

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Neat. >> what? Your place was pretty tidy. Yeah, I'll give that to you. Okay, password.

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45 big D R exclamation point v e s. That's an

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intuitive password that other people would think of. Don't forget the big D.

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Ooh, network folder name. Linus stuff. Based on the quantity of storage drives

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you installed in the server, we will set up the storage array with a balance of

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capacity, performance, and redundancy. Very nice. So, we've got our 8 TB

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drives. We can see those. And then we've got a different kind of drive that is

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also eight-ish terabytes, but not quite

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as many. Storage will tolerate two disk failures and gives you 41 kibibytes

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usable. So, it is setting up an array

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with all of my drives, but when you set

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up mismatch capacity drives in a single array, you are going to be limited to

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the capacity of the lowest capacity drives in the array. Two disk

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redundancy, RAID Z2. [music] That's a pretty solid recommendation for eight

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drives. Actually pretty impressed. Complete setup.

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Now we give it a minute. Still quiet?

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Silent even. I'm I'm genuinely pretty impressed at the fact that they not only

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don't have any fans in it cuz [music] that's pretty obvious, but it doesn't have any coil whine. Like even that

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crazy computer we had, the like space age Calios, uh no moving parts, it still

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made noise because you could actually hear the the fluid in it boiling. If you

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struggle to hear anything with your head literally pressed up to it, then I think

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that that passes the bar for quiet.

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>> I might just not have very good hearing though. Remember when you like flipped

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out cuz I turned your speakers up too loud and you're like, "Dude, you're going to like >> Oh god. It still keeps me awake at

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night. No, it never made it into the video, but nicest sound system I've ever

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heard. I'm going to turn it up." HE GOES, "WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. This is all so

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finely tuned that you have no idea how loud what you're listening to is,

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brother. I use my ears for a living." I'm like, "Oh, sorry." What's 130 dB

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between friends? Yeah. All right, configuring ZFS storage. Here we go. All

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right, how long does this thing want to do this? It'd be nice if it gave us some

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kind of ETA. We didn't Is it like low-level formatting everything? Uh

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pretty much, yeah. To be clear, it's, you know, doing it pretty fast, but it's

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not that fast. It's SATA. Cuz if we were to go NVMe, all of a

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sudden we're going to need like a bigger motherboard, more expensive PCIe cabling

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everywhere. I can understand why they did it this way, especially because if

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they're targeting like audio creators,

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video creators, you don't need higher than like, you know,

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2 GB a second. And you're only going to do this initial setup, assuming

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everything goes according to plan, one time. This is Man, this is taking a hot

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minute here. And I think just because we went and we put 45 TB of storage in it.

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>> Oh, yeah. That'll do it. Sweet time. Oh, boy.

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4 days later. Yeah, that never

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completed. So, we had to work with 45 drives support, reinstall our ZFS

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package, something something. The point is now it works. We can create a backup

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schedule. Ooh, simple or custom?

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Hourly, daily, weekly, monthly. Okay, we can set a location. We don't have any

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locations yet. Okay, full disclosure. Okay, I am invested in a NAS software

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company to make setting up your own NAS like simpler. I am not trying to make

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this look hard. You guys are watching everything that I'm doing. Wired

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settings. Here is my IP.

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How the hell do I access the web UI? Has anyone done this or did we just get it

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to the point where we fixed what we knew was broken? That's as far as I'm allowed

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to say. I'll try HTTPS. In fairness, this is a

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brand new product that they are evidently still working on the software

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for. Okay. Add server.

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Okay, there. It's there now.

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Permission denied. Okay, well, no, that's a good sign. I swear I'm not

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trying to make this look difficult, man. Did that work? Can I

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I think I might have just reformatted it. It shouldn't have reformatted yet

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because it does that later in the process. No, no, not the storage drives.

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The boot drive. I think I just >> [snorts] >> Yeah, I think I just factory reset it.

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So, this is not a setup for your 45 drives studio.

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Hey, you now have a network attached server that you can start using

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immediately. Houston command center. Okay, the

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Oh, we have to put the port. Username. Let's go. We have hacked the mainframe.

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Limited access mode. Yeah, no, I'm an administrator. Linus is not that the

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incident will be reported. What

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Oh my god. Again. I am not trying to make this look hard.

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I'm just I'm cursed when it comes to Linux. Uh anyway, storage. We can see

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our array here. Current activity. Very cool. Okay, yeah. Any volumes that are

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on each of our physical devices. Pretty nice, concise little storage

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summary. System usage. Ooh. Okay, I love

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buttons in user interfaces

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that exist only so that it can tell you >> [music] >> that you can't do that and doesn't take

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you to any kind of help file and it doesn't take you to like menu where you

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can configure so you are permitted to do that. Text is not underlined in an

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interface unless it's button. [music] Hyperlink rules literally been around

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since the '90s. Sorry, I'm trying not to like rant here. I'm just a little

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frustrated by this experience so far. We should just access it [music] because

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that is 99% of what most people are going to do with a machine like this.

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They're just going to access it. So, go like that, go [music] like that. Here's

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the video. Boom. No, I'm going to have to go to the

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actual share. >> [music] >> Uh okay, let's try Linus 2. Nope. Okay.

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Let's try just actually going into and

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finding out where the stupid folder is.

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File sharing. Failed to initialize the registry. Samba

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smb.conf run test parm [music] to debug.

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This is not the best out of box experience I've ever had. 45 drives,

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love you guys dearly. We can't just like completely ignore that this just didn't

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work. Hold on, there's still maybe something. Click plus to add a share.

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All right, let's do that. Unique name for your share. Linus 2 share.

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[ __ ] I don't know. You tell me. Linus

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2. Path not absolute. I don't even know

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what the root directory you're putting it in is. You just assume I'm a Linux

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wizard. Okay, navigator [music]

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then. Okay, here we go. This is just giving me the whole ass directory for

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Rocky Linux. Where is my array? File

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systems. Here we Boom. {slash} tank {slash} Linus 2. Guest okay. No problem.

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Per file snapshots. Oh, yeah, that's cool. Optimize share for macOS. No,

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don't need that, but it's nice that it's an option. Error in add share. Failed to

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initialize the registry. Not going to lie, a little frustrated at this point.

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To be clear, I and the team here could absolutely fight our way through these

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problems. We could get on the phone with 45 drives. We could go consult some

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documentation. We could figure it out. But that's not

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really who this product is intended for. So, I would like to see 45 drives have

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this software experience cleaned up, made a little bit more reliable, made a

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little bit more intuitive before they go shipping this to

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a video editor, like, you know, content creator, a musician, someone whose

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life is not about, you know, playing around with war {underscore} access

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{underscore} denied smb.conf run test

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parm to debug. That's not their life. That's not their world. They don't want to deal with that. So, I think there's a

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little bit of work to be done. The hardware looks good and the bones of the

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software look good. Just needs a little more polish on the bones, you

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know? Polished bones. Super cool product, man. Not a cheap product. I

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think it's about 3,500 bucks for the system itself and then you obviously

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have to add your drives to it. But if what you're after is something that is

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dead silent, can be high capacity, has no moving parts, therefore can be

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transported, taken with you on the road,

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I can absolutely see the appeal. Yeah, I I I think it hits a good middle between,

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you know, the prosumer and, you know, the full-time creator.

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>> Like that's the thing. It's all about context, right? Like this is expensive,

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but it's not outlandish. You get what you pay for, you know?

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Kind of applies to [music] Thanks for coming on to check this out.

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Thanks for pimping the merch. You look great, by the way.

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Thank you. Subscribe to ShortCircuit.

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Oh, oh, and you can and you can check out the 45 Studio at the link down

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below. Maybe we'll link your we'll link your music down there, too. You know, help

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out a help out a starting out a artist, you know?
