welcome to the wen show we have a great show for you guys today
which is good because we're you guys have been waiting so very long for it to
start not the youtube audience um we've got a special guest with us here he
can't get his webcam working but quite frankly that was the least of the issues
we had today so kyle from bitwit say hi kyle
our power is combined yeah
it is yeah late squared
oh my god we should do co-op shows called late squared apparently they
can't hear you what
wait you're not coming through on the discord your mic is muted on discord
unmute yourself on discord unmute yourself on discord just done there we
go oh oh man okay okay
i'm breathing i'm breathing now okay
so yes kyle kyle is here
trust me he's here we have topics uh topic number one is that
kyle is the first yeah person the first
creator for the Floatplane platform oh my
goodness of all time
except for Linus tech tips yeah that is not though oh yeah yeah
number two
um in other news NVIDIA teases another
titan x the collector's edition we we
needed this in other news next-gen AMD epic could be equipped with
an epic 64 course we also needed that
and in other news razer announced a phone
for gamers we needed that too i am going
to roll the intro what we really needed is wow classic servers no i'm really
officially on blizzard i'm rolling the intro yes i knew he was good i'm so
excited okay i'm rolling in
okay um it's weird cause i can't say battle.net
anymore because that's not what it is it's blizzard app what blizzard just is
it's so stupid no that's terrible the launcher thing though i'm not playing
any blizzard games right now but are people actually following suit and
calling it that or people just like no [ __ ] i'm still calling it battling that i i think
they're probably like no screw it what's your profile
battle tent i think i think mostly uh people are
saying battlenet but um
i don't really know no intro music by the way oh i don't
even care yeah
that's a luxury at this point
getting the dj to work yeah i don't know how that launched the youtube video
happened because i like legit did not change that at all publish the youtube
video no i haven't oh yeah yeah i published youtube video we're good we're good we're good we're live all right
okay so apparently it's now blizzardbattle.net
they changed it again wow that's terrible and they should feel
terrible these are the only the only entity to change their name more often
oh i wouldn't say you're no longer the worst man congratulations
oh okay still okay okay so i know you said
you have to go at five the time is now
5 46 actually got to take my intermission bio break before the stream
started it's great no no it's totally fine i
mean i i don't have like anywhere to be at a specific time i'm just trying to
limit it to like a half hour so i can get other [ __ ] done
got it well so much for that uh
so do you want to talk about some other stuff because i'm sure you'd love to
talk classic wow uh NVIDIA titan uh
collector's edition actually there's a lot of really great stuff today so you want to talk some topics with us first
or you want to jump into Floatplane what do you want to do it's it's up to
you we've wasted enough of your time yes it's totally your guys's call um i
mean i guess we can start with the flow plane stuff okay that's that's news okay
cool um let's do it yeah so uh kyle is the first person to join
Floatplane and he is having the
pre-alpha experience that is for sure um how's it
going so far there it's it's it totally is pre-alpha man
like i i feel like i feel like jumping in like as the first
it's almost like i'm the first woman that any man has ever seen
they're like oh my god there's what is that we've never seen one of these
before i'm just getting like royal treatment it's it's so it's super cool and
everyone's incredibly nice um you know like when i first went in there and i
was like interacting with people and like saying oh thanks i was like replying to everyone individually and
some guy was like you know kindly was like hey you know like glad you're here
but by the way you can use like the multi multi-quote yeah that's probably
preferred and so i was like yeah sure and then like i actually tried it out i
was like yeah like what do you think of my first multi quote how did i do and
he's like well you only quoted me so it's hard to say
i feel like my grandpa on facebook right now um so i mean but it's but it's been
great like your community's awesome everyone's been super kind and welcoming so far so okay
well that's that's really cool that's great sweet
um okay so basically right now the way that
it works i'm just gonna i'm just gonna fire up the store here
um is if you go to this so okay
our plan was actually not to bring on
other creators
for poorly so it was just me you created Floatplane just for bit with no no
no definitely untouched um luke just hasn't slept a lot
to be fair no one on the Floatplane team really has so um
because the plan for Floatplane was to bring other creators on
sometime after Linus media group properties had been
live on the new site for some time yeah
oh yeah so like like a while from yeah so like potentially other creators were
still four to six months out in terms of a realistic timeline and it
was like okay
that was kind of the uh you know if i was if i was Floatplane's child i was
i was definitely the mistake child yeah you were the premature the first one
being the first person yeah yeah um so basically and i think
you can partially blame youtube for that right well yeah off all the paid
channels as of two days ago and as far as i know i'm like one of the only if
not the only tech uh youtuber that actually had a paid channel on youtube's
platform so yeah i was really the only one to seemingly get affected by it and
that's when you guys were like hey like speaking of which we've got an
alternative that's way better uh well let's not get ahead of ourselves
well yeah we haven't seen the actual official site yet we're working on it
but we but we're working on an alternative so so how long were you
running bit with ultra as a paid channel through youtube before they just
like canned it um i want to say it's been about a year
which lines up i feel like youtube yeah i feel like youtube yeah it definitely
lines up with like how youtube works because they like to like work you up and be like hey look at all these new
features and things we added and then like it's congratulations it's your one
year anniversary we're shutting it down um so
i guess like it just kind of happened out of nowhere but yeah it's been it's been going for about a year now i
launched bit with ultra which was basically early access ad free
content um both on youtube and patreon
simultaneously because there was a huge a huge group of people who weren't able
to view paid channels on youtube based on the country apparently not all
countries are supported there so it was a huge huge just sort of ordeal i was
thinking oh you know it's not bad uploading all my content to a second
channel that's that's not too much work and then i find out that i have to
upload it to a third channel now because patreon doesn't actually have a native
uploader so i actually had to upload i had to create a third youtube channel
upload all my early access content there have it unlisted and then link it to
patreon it was just like so okay for the viewers out there
for the viewers out there that are sitting there going well gee um why why
are you an idiot why didn't you just upload the video to your bit wit channel
unlisted a week early and then give that to the patreon people and then just set
it public and hold on no no there's a legitimate reason for this whether kyle
himself is actually aware of it or not
i'm not sure but there's a real reason for this and we've observed that
algorithmically youtube doesn't entirely forget and i'm
using finger quotes for forget because youtube is uh not a sentient being um
although yeah so so far um it is a machine
that was the worst youtube does it sorry nick was doing the
stairs behind us he was walking down the stairs behind the show and he's like
he's like still in like twenty percent of the frame
i've been walking away um
so youtube doesn't entirely forget the
upload date when it does its machine learning
nonsense about you know sending out your video to
people so what's weird is like you'll upload something a week early let's say
and you'll set it public and the public like the date you see for
the video upload externally is the date you made it public but the date you see
internally in your cms is the date you uploaded it youtube still knows and what
we've observed is that leaving something sitting on the channel for some time
actually causes it to kind of rot yeah and not only just that but if you upload
something unlisted with the same name thumbnail and actual video content and
then release another one that second one will also get tanked
so and that's exactly why a lot of people were wondering like a lot of my ultra
subscribers who were you know when it was still on youtube they're like kyle why are you uploading the same video but
with a different title and thumbnail yeah it's because i was noticing as i
was getting you know getting situated with with this new model and stuff is
that like my v by video my view came just started to tank with all these
videos that were getting re-uploaded you know especially on a different channel
but still using the same metadata and things like that and then i noticed that
there was sort of an uptick once i started switching up the thumbnails and then i was like oh my god this becomes
even more work now um
to be clear to the viewers out there you know youtubers as a as a whole are not like
complaining about the hard work that we do to you know come up with a different
title for the video the second time we upload it or whatever it's just one of
those things where the honestly where it really runs into a lot of work for us is
when there's all these little different moving parts that we have to get synchronized
and then something's wrong and you have to like bail on a family dinner and go figure
out what's going on and which one you forgot and it's just having a bunch of
different moving parts when you go to publish a video is just kind of a pain
in the butt and it can also be more difficult than people realize to actually come up with
two good thumbnails and two good titles for the same video it's hard enough to
find one really effective thumbnail title let alone two
where like it's actually really good and eye-catching and grabby but also doesn't
piss off your audience for being click bait it's it's a you got you got to find that
fine line and finding two things on the fine line boy is that ever a balancing
act yeah
you know
such a gap of communication you know
what's going on behind the scenes between creator and viewers that they understand
one of my favorite things is that this whole paid channels going down thing is
on the exact to the day one year anniversary of vessel going
down is it really did you know yeah november
first notice i tweeted about it and everything november 1st was was when
vessel went down and november first was when youtube paid channels went down
internet so on the anniversary of vessel going down pay channels went
down and kyle joined full plane huh and it's also i mean because float
plane started almost to the day when vessel went down
because those two those two events were somewhat related let's say yeah um
that's also the anniversary of a Floatplane development actually starting not
quite to the day but like it was a few days earlier that's a little bit of a strong it's gray it's
gray well because there's also different stages because like the very beginning
we're like we put videos on forum you download really
um now there's like streaming can i tease things a little bit later
can we talk about it a little bit it's so janky right i know but can we just
can we just show some of the sure let's just do it okay so first first i'm going
to show the way that it actually works so kyle and i talked about this last night
one of the things that Floatplane strives to do
and the other guy that i don't know if his name is able to be public are going to slap me but yeah let's do it we'll
figure this out we'll figure this out so um so so kyle and i were talking last
night one of the things that Floatplane really wants to do is work with the creators on what's going to work best
for the platform and since kyle joined
um one of the biggest pieces of feedback
we've gotten from viewers has been like yo
right now it's three dollars for Linus media group and it's three dollars for
bit wit it would be great if we could combine those and do like a combo
purchase and so i had a call with kyle we talked it through last night i talked
to luke today and basically the conclusion that we came to is that
if we were to offer a discount we are either going to be like what it's going
to turn into is it's going to turn into trying to build a video platform
as opposed to trying to build a tool for individual creators to use
and that wasn't really the point of the platform in the first place so we crunch
some numbers and we figured out okay well what if the Floatplane platform
itself could just make some pie in the sky assumptions about bandwidth usage
being significantly lower for one person subscribed to 10 creators versus 10
people subscribed to one creator and we could just kind of absorb that out of
there and what we ended up with was a discount level that would frankly look
kind of insulting yeah and what we also ended up with was a fundamental change
to the model that we didn't really like so for us
we want to make sure that we're operating with a safe amount of margin
to keep the platform sustainable because we don't want to go down on november 1st
2018. yeah really and the other thing is that if we have
extra we have no problem giving it back but for us it's a creator
first platform and we'd love to do things like and kyla this is probably
the first time you're hearing about this but one of the things that i'd like to
do is take all of the Floatplane margin that's coming in from your first couple
of months here and then dump that into some promoted posts on facebook and
stuff like that to see if we can drive in more subscribers so that's the kind
of thing that we'd rather do versus just
you know discount a bundle of three creators by like a dollar
um so we want to make sure that any money that's coming in is going to
supporting the creators on the platform so i think we've pretty much made a final decision there uh
we're not going to offer bundles because it would really either hamper the choice
of creators in terms of the types of bundles that they want to offer
consumers or it would hamper our ability to properly develop and support the
creators and the platform so there you go there's that now let's jump into some
stuff that nobody has really seen before
oh geez okay okay actually one one more thing
this won't be the only time that i pimp this but um
it is in our best interest now for the first time ever to drive subscriptions
to another creator which is weird this is like this is like a weird awkward
position for me so i'm posting some links right now it's only awkward if you
want it to be right now you actually access bit wit through
the LTT forum so i'm going to show you guys how that looks
oh i hope which i i still have not gotten used to your admin again anytime
i like login like log it log into the Linus tech tips and like go to the store
i see Floatplane and i just see like my logo like okay
they're getting ddosed right now what's happening this this doesn't make
any sense no yeah no it's not it's not uh it's not an error that is a bit logo
on linustechtips.com super bizarre um so once you're subscribed what
happens is you'll see this Floatplane section at the top of the forum and then
you'll be able to go to bit with ultra and uh you will find um okay so right
now which which ones are early access
right now uh videos yeah
so let's see i think there's the announcement wall actually
right now there are no early access videos as far as like a week early um
there is just one that can you tell me what's coming
uh yes i can actually uh the h700i from
nzxt the new case oh cool it's like 200 freaking dollars um that's that's going
to be going up very soon um and additionally i think there's what's
the other one there's there's other stuff there's there's more good stuff coming soon
there i can't even think of it right now
that's fine that's a good enough sales pitch don't worry about it yeah yeah
it's totally great plus it'll look way better than it does on you
yeah yeah dog yeah and the secret to that is what just
like higher bit rate because a lot of people in the forum were were saying
that the 720 on your forum or on Floatplane really is
looking better and crispier than 1080p on youtube yeah so it basically it's a
bitrate thing it's more nuanced than that there's like uh how you transcode
it uh to be able to get more quality and a lower amount of bit rate and all this
kind of jazz but yeah there's some there's some special sauce going on
it does look really good yeah wow i don't even have to use my nice camera
and use my phone and it looks like like all my good stuff it's
actually kind of like what i've seen a pretty common comparison for and this is not from me
is that it's one step up kind of so 720
on ours looks sort of like 1080 on youtube 1080 on ours looks sort of like
4k on youtube yep and we haven't launched video it'll look like it
we have uh okay we are getting way ahead of ourselves
here okay the last the last time i'm gonna get ahead of ourselves today is to
show you guys what the site will not look like
oh effectively youtube.com because it's gonna be pretty different from this
right um sort of oh okay so it's not that difficult to be that different oh okay
okay cool and never mind i thought i was looking at an old version no okay the
blue top bar is gone ah because if you click on an individual
channel like if you click on Techquickie you can see how the top bar being gone
affects it more there you go ah yes okay okay cool
okay so kyle you may actually be see no you've seen this because you can log
into it so right now registration is closed you can't log into the site yeah
stop it but we are showing for the first time
what Floatplane may or may not end up
looking like yeah there's definitely going to be changes uh we're obviously
not going to have a giant razor logo in there yeah no that's just a random
placeholder image yep but there will be channel banners like this
um videos are going to be basically
the star of the show um there is going to be layout differences
though there will be layout differences and this is the videos tab so this
actually might look pretty exactly how it does now but there's probably going
to be a home tab that looks different right now it's full of placeholder
garbage like we make videos and stuff cool eh you should probably check out
Linus cat tips who put that there i i think i think that was uh Linus forzal
okay brilliant um so here's what playlists may or may
not end up looking like everything is there's a different yeah there's a different idea for those
um how close to the comment section is this
going to be hey here's a comment
post so there you go guys there's a comment
wow in real time it says how many seconds ago it was like dislike okay no
no no no no that's probably not going to continue to be a thing
hold on
real time comment counters no probably not that would bury us so fast
wow wow
um so here's some you know other videos from this particular creator so these
aren't hooked into the back end so we can't play the video right now but that's that's not a huge deal um are we
planning to have the video stay playable at the top as we scroll through the comments yeah so it's gonna stay fixed
and you'll keep scrolling and this particular screen will scroll yeah yeah
uh so like major things we need to work on right now is uh being able to
do payment stuff account creation is doing pretty okay
we're working on connected accounts so that you guys can log in with your forum
accounts that you already have for bit wood ultra and
LMG Floatplane and we'll have access to the things that you've already paid for
on the new sites you don't need to do anything and then we'll just uh
incentivize changing overpayment platforms because honestly the one we're
on right now is terrible super terrible and you should be on the new one but
we're gonna like try to have some incentives so that you want to be on the new one too um and there's yeah there's
there's there's definitely more stuff to do on the site but um that's sort of how it will look no
like crazy major changes outside of that
um oh
oh you're not streaming this okay no no i'm not sure i was like all right we're showing that okay well i was kind of
thinking why not i mean we can we can show we can show how alpha it is hey
kyle do you think we should show them the alphaness of the cms
the elvenist sorry my vocabularies
alpha beta alpha beta okay
we're gonna do it yes yes the answer is yes a thousand times yes we're gonna do
it okay everyone oh should i show the settings page too do it uh sure yeah
so this is the setting none of the other tabs work yeah unavailable
subscriptions unavailable notifications well
nothing privacy well this is super private oh yeah it is yeah
tons of security literally all the security through obscurity that's what that is
um this is what like it's pretty hilarious it's pretty hilarious
yeah all right so here's where you would like
here's where you put in the description totally non-functional but it will eventually and then over here it's like
it was like yes this is the this is exactly this is a bug yeah this is so
this is a bug this is a video that i was trying to upload like yesterday and uh
no it's stuck here no it's just stuck and i can't you can't actually do it
well the schedule change thing isn't isn't supposed to work right now yeah i know
oh well there's no reply you can edit them but you can't save any
of your chat you can save the changes on changing the
thumbnail so you know some things are there hey oh there's a
save button so look look i'm not i'm not giving you it's
only been up for like a day i'm not i'm not giving you
the point of this i haven't slept in weeks
look there's been some really good development that has happened okay
okay no there is actually so most of the work over the last year has been back
end work there's been a well infrastructure there's been a lot of
infrastructure work that's happened because guys like we are all about that back end
so check this out this should be a much more impressive demo this is kyle's uh
gtx 1070 ti video click what's cracking
people whoa did you see how fast that's going well today's video is going to be
very haphazardly thrown together because i'm short on time what else is new time
i know so apologies in advance for that but i still think the data that you're
going to be seeing today is going to excite how that's going to go down dude
um i just want to check with you yeah okay negatory okay that's good that's
good um by the way i love your profile
picture it it is literally the best screenshot
of me on the internet
i think brandon actually tweeted me he's like this is by far the best video clip
that you will ever produce in your life okay thanks thanks
for the stars anymore
now you just need to get like multiple versions of like alcohol things and have
all of them hit you in the eye at the same time
uh paul and i did a uh iron contest for awesome hardware
recently one of my personal favorites is actually
on my store right now is uh it's like sort of like a cartoon a cartoonized or
animated version of of that screenshot and it says beware of bottlenecks
oh that's that's pretty good that's not bad
that's not bad huh
i wouldn't buy one but if you sent it to me for free i might consider wearing it
how about that yeah you should but you should wear it because i feel
self-conscious wearing a shirt with my face on
awkward oh man
so anyway there you guys go i'm gonna go ahead and i'll link the store one more
time um here i'll link specifically the join
bit with ultra one uh go check it out
uh so you're doing one week early access and i think you had also promised uh
streaming even though luke and i were
pretty clear that streaming doesn't work yet um but that's the last thing that i
think luke wants to update you on live
what what you guys have been doing some testing yeah so yeah uh yeah well we've
we've done we've done some testing yeah it's been going okay there's still a lot
of work that needs to be done we're gonna be working on it tonight my little after party stream is gonna be streamed
to twitch and our own infrastructure
which is crazy um and we're gonna see how that goes and do some stress testing
aj was doing testing from like uploading to a server in
quebec and then having that
go over to the eu and then watching that stream off of an
eu edge server that was like actually doing pretty well
uh we need to get multi-resolution working we need to get a live chat uh we
need connected accounts working so that people can use their accounts to
actually talk in the live chat there's a bunch of work that still needs to be done but um yeah it's coming along
cool sounds promising all right do you guys
want to do some actual tech news i mean this was tech and it was news
tech news all right so this was originally posted
by max settings on the forum and the original article is this youtube video
from NVIDIA so everyone has to be quiet! for a second here because i think the
audience actually has sound off my laptop this week so one moment here
um it was red and green yeah so it's probably RGB
oh yeah no no it's not NVIDIA is not releasing a
red graphics card um
so they released a teaser this morning for the new titan x collectors edition
no mention of specs it does look like a new
cooler design with more lighting with a green light clearly eliminating the
vapor chamber and heatsink fin array lighting may be customizable because in
a couple frames there's a second glowing red graphics card and it also seems like
the fan could stick out from the frame with its own acrylic element
the scuttlebutt is that they could announce it at ces 2018
um considering it has a scheduled keynote at the show
i actually doubt they would tease it two months ahead of time it must be coming sooner than that
yeah i don't know kyle does the world need another titan um no i
maybe someone's gonna argue for i i don't
think we need one so what we have the titan x
the titan x pascal the titan
xp and the titan x collector's edition
like i think it's stupid but i also don't care like if someone wants to buy
it sure go ahead i don't know wait is it any is it going to perform
any different no one knows okay
it might it might just be like an upgraded shroud
i mean it is possible it could just be an RGB it's possible that this is volta based
wait oh it says titan x not titan xp though
yeah but like i think doesn't have the p yeah
oh yeah you're right 13 second video
uh looks like the lighting could be customizable
yeah there's we don't really know anything about it like it is it is
possible that this could be volta based i mean NVIDIA has had obviously working
volta hardware for months now and just because AMD hasn't given them any
compelling reason to release a better product within the price segments where
they compete with them um
here's the real question Linus is the lighting RGB
it looks like it might be theoretically yeah but but i don't see how that's the
real question i'm trying to talk about well no the architecture here that might
matter a lot see the thing is i don't know if people care about architecture
anymore as long as you've got lighting there's there's two fans for a hundred dollars that are
selling what really yeah thank you two fan
package hundred dollars what time is that
the light loops are a hundred dollars for two fans
i actually didn't know that two 140 millimeter fans of course you get the
lighter node pro or whatever the lighting node pro
which okay makes you do pretty effects and stuff but it's
still two fans for a hundred dollars i bought it like last week and did a
video on on Floatplane you bought it
it's a good video it's on Floatplane yeah he did it yeah does Corsair not like you
no they do it was i wasn't planning to do any coverage on it and then impromptu
i was like i need a video idea i'm not planned out like fine
so i was like i don't want to wait for Corsair to ship it and stuff so i'll
just buy it and pick it up the same day or whatever from new egg and did you get
some sticker shock there uh some what did you i mean did you did
you know it was gonna be a hundred dollars before you were like oh cool
i did and i thought that's what made it an interesting video because it was two
fans for a hundred dollars check them out and what's the deal it is genuinely
really good video i'm not to lie i'm not going to say why i did this but i've
seen it like six times or seven times
from beginning to end i don't think i've watched it once
i can probably quote your video
i spent a benjamin wow see
see confirmed here i got you confirmed
freaking brilliant i mean i don't know if you guys like saw the uh
that it's kind of old now but like the tempered glass RGB video was like a
stupid sketch that i did a while back yeah i actually did see that one yeah
it's like it's funny because it's it's like one of those like it's funny because true but also kind of sad
because it's true type of thing have i have played up the the RGB
enthusiasm and all that like i've had a lot of fun with it and i've played both
sides of the character i've played the the one who tries to build the anti-RGB
computer by literally painting an entire computer including the components black
i remember that one killing the motherboard in the process not a popular
video not a fine moment for the channel um
all the way to building the ultimate RGB pc including me wearing RGB shoes for
the build like we've we've gone to both ends of the spectrum here
and um pun intended i have to i have to
confess though that i like RGB like
in the sense that like i think it's cute and i think it's cool yeah but i have a
Corsair k70 RGB like their first RGB
keyboard um on my desk at home
and the thing about that particular RGB keyboard is that it defaults back to its
red except for white on wasd and the arrows color scheme every time you like
unplug it or like don't install the driver or whatever so there were a
couple times where i like bothered to set it up yeah and then i got tired of
it and for well over a year it's been read with white wasd because i just
can't be arsed well i feel like i feel like with keyboards it's a little different
because there's literally like over a hundred
little things that you can configure and customize right it's like it's like
sensory overload but i feel like if it's just more
straightforward it's like okay here's a headset or a motherboard you're not
going to have that many variations of what you can really do with it and most
people like you like you said like most people are gonna set it and forget it right like okay i like this profile i'm
gonna keep it just set it this way and it's it's that way for like the next 18
months or whatever it is so
i don't know but but at the same time like i've gotten spoiled by RGB like i
think i realized i really i don't know why everyone thinks it's me because i
had the first generation of the k70 RGB as well yeah and i was like this is
stupid i'm not going to pay x amount for just having this lighting and it can
change colors and stuff this is dumb and then like the more updated like the next
generation came out and i was like wow like the lighting's so much brighter
and it looks so much better i'm like why doesn't my stupid first generation board
right vibrant RGB lighting and i was like oh my god oh my god i like RGB
lighting so you went like i'm not caring to carry so much that you want premium
RGB like i went the other way like intellectually i know it's dumb and
gimmicky and stupid but like my eyes are just like give me more
it's like high porn you know the funny thing is like i think the pc enthusiast
takes a lot of flack for caring about RGB lighting but then for some reason
actually no we do make fun of car enthusiasts for their big spoilers never
mind okay forget it spoilers are just silly
the point that the point the point i was trying to make died before
i i was so excited for argentina rotting flesh
wow um back when like the ducky RGB was
coming ducky shine yeah yeah i was so excited and then like we got some in at
work i got to see the Corsair one early at ces and all this kind of stuff and
right when i saw it i was like oh
i don't know if i care and then have never cared my personal keyboard at home
doesn't even have lights i'm just like nope and even if it did i
have keycaps that cover them and i would not swap out my keycaps because i prefer
my pbt ninja printed gold key caps way over any lighter there's
such a door absolutely i feel like it's also one of those things where like if i didn't have
if i had like a keyboard that didn't have RGB i prefer it to have zero
lighting whatsoever it i think it's just when you give me
one option that's when i want more but if you just
give me no options and it's not lit up at all then i'll be like oh it's
perfectly fine but if you give me a keyboard that's just like oh you can
only be red for i'm like well why not green green
what the [ __ ] man why not red and green like christmas is almost here i love
what you call these greens like one of those bumper stickers on my
keyboard yeah speaking of green uh this
next topic so we'll do one more topic then we'll do our sponsors and then you
can bail if you want or you can sit through the sponsors if you're not too
bored by them um speaking of green the razer phone
officially announced um scrappy z dog posted on the forum kyle have you seen
this have you heard about this razer phone uh what yeah
phone for gamers it's for gamers totally totes i've watched for gamers watch
austin's video on it and i think i watched uh mkbhd's yep
so i don't watch anyone else's video but yeah
all right so thoughts hit me okay actually you
know what luke you look like you have something to say you look like you want to go first
people complain on this show that i never let you talk you look like you
need to talk right now what do you have to say about this so i was just going to say like what are people playing on it
because the first thing that jumped to my mind was like oh clash of clans and
you don't need a gaming phone to play clash of clans but then also right after
i said that like come on now you don't need this you need eight gigs to like
build a castle in 18 months like no it's fine um but then i was at twitchcon the
entire time that i was at twitchcon the like biggest most ridiculous booth was
lineage 2 which blew my freaking mind because i played that like before wow
came out and i'm like why are you two yeah
what the heck exactly like that game from way before i i just
assumed you were talking about something else entirely no
but it's called like ascension or something and it's a mobile game and
it's like arena combat i have no idea how all of this came together but it was
i mean it was an mmo i know i don't all i saw was arena combat it
might have just been the pvp portion of the mmo i'm not sure but it's called
lineage two and then something and it's this crazy phone game and there's
graphics all over the place and stuff so maybe people
that like decide that they need to play a pvp mmo on their phone
and like if they're targeting the right audience yeah no i know that's the thing and if
they're targeting the right audience apparently this lineage 2 game is like
top grossing in south korea and japan
wow and like they had day 9 on stage the entire event and had conan o'brien up on
stage with him at one point in time like at twitchcon live on stage
so they got money conan o'brien he's like still relevant too like that must
have been a million dollars yeah but a lot of money remember there's
a difference between okay so i love day night well you know how
much clash of clans brings in every day yeah
yeah like wow yeah like that was that's a weekend the
second i noticed that day nine was on stage all the time i was like that's
really expensive and then out of nowhere on i think saturday conan's just
up on stage with them and i'm like that's i don't care at all yeah cause
like here's the thing like internet famous people have like
appearance fees like i'm not gonna i'm not gonna lie like if if someone is like
yeah we really really need you to be there i'm like well like i have to travel i'm away from home
i'm away from the office i'm not working videos like i yeah i'm working so they
cost money but like my understanding is
that for like a slash b list celebrities like conan's
a big deal who are relevant like just to like talk is like a million
bucks okay yeah potentially really yes i don't
know either way just like have a steel booth and it was weird because you watch
you're at this booth and everyone's extremely soon that they can't see me
everyone's extremely seriously up on stage like game face this whole team
versus that whole team on their phones and i'm like what what the what
what is this so like apparently there's a market for it
okay and razer's from where uh singapore
yeah so they're pretty close to where that game is grossing really highly so
yep okay so why don't we run i'll run
through the quick specs and then let's hear your thoughts kyle um 5.7 inch
1440p um sharp display
uh 120 hertz that's a big deal like obviously i'm not going to poo-poo
them about that because i made a a huge deal of the ip of the latest ipad pro
having a 120 hertz variable refresh rate display
um huge deal big fan i love it i love this move some
people in my uh stream chat when i was talking about this while they were doing
it were like oh that's stupid because 120 hertz is just a waste of battery uh
no it's variable refresh rate so it refreshes when it needs to so you could
turn it down you could save the power or you could turn it up you could have a butter smooth experience and i expected
games it'll try to crank up and then you're like the home screen yep it's not
going to love this movie exactly and then and the battery's pretty massive
isn't like 1000 milliamps or something four thousand million power battery so
they're saying seven hours of gaming continuously eight gigs of RAM 64 gig
storage with expansion uh stereo front-facing speakers with dolby atmos
though i'm not especially convinced that dolby atmos
has a ton of value when you have a stereo speaker configuration i'm not
sure snapdragon 835 and they're saying because of their cooling it's the best
performing snapdragon 835 on the market how thick is the phone it's it's not
thin but it's not like a completely ridiculous brick either it's not that
it's not that far off what i would consider reasonable no
120 mil 700 bucks
no headphone jack okay kyle go headphone jack yay or nay
breaker honestly it's it's it's one of those things where
i have just like every phone that i've ever had even like super crappy
headphone jack so psychologically it weirds me out to think about using a
phone daily that doesn't have one but when i think about it realistically in
the last like six to 12 months with my google pixel first generation
like i have probably used that jack once
so really logistically
and that's why it's a never-ending discussion is because it really just boils down to the end you
are you someone who uses a wired head like wired headphones or earbuds with
your phone you know um and i typically don't you
know i when i listen to music i am either on my desktop and i've got you
know my my cans there or i'm in the car and
um and i'm using bluetooth so for me
it's it's one of those things that i could live without it's nice to have
but it's not necessary for me personally but i
completely understand how some people value that sort of thing especially like
you know when you get onto the audiophile spectrum and you know you're
having uh phones like the like what's lg's latest one with the d30 back in it
yep yeah the v30 so i mean yeah i get it i get it you know pushing it forward and
stuff like that but for me personally i it's something that i could do without
assuming that the rest of the phone is exactly what i'm looking for
especially with certain mobile gaming titles coming out with like voice chat
and stuff built in yep like the the need to be on headphones
actually sounds pretty major and i know
there's a big battery but they're talking about a gaming phone i know they say seven hours that's going to go down
yeah if you're using a bluetooth headset that goes down yeah and that's going to
go down over usage of the phone as well and the more you load it up with stuff
you add voice chat in that's more things that need to be processed like i'm using
my headphone jack right now yeah to listen to you kyle
so you might say that i'm not really that's a really better off that's a really sad argument it's a really sad
case wow wow
but it's it's one of those things where you're really not going to care much or
you're going to be like desperately in need of it there's i feel like there's zero gray
area here with that said i have i have
gotten used to not having a headphone jack mostly
because i've been working on my pixel 2 review uh i was working on my review of
the iphone 8 and the 8 plus um there's at least one other yeah i was working on
my review of the xiaomi mi mix 2 and these are all phones that don't have
headphone jacks and i'm just used to now carrying around
this weird stupid multi-dongle adapter thing that i built
myself so that i just have something on hand at all
times shut up i didn't know you strapped it all together
yeah because this way you like made your own multi cable so i can run this one
through here and then the whole oh wow
oh wow actually this was not my idea this was uh this came with the
moto uh z force okay and i liberated it and then i
included i came up with the idea of putting multiple adapters on it so
that's all that i contributed to this i tried to find one to buy because i was
like i should get some spares of these yeah and i couldn't i don't even know
what to search for in amazon yeah like the dongle the dongle holder dongle
holder headphone adapter pro waterproof
we should do it as like an LTT merch item yeah that'd be cool just like get
like 5 000 of them may be like yep yeah we invented this like kyle's fidget
spinner we invented this out of motorola's included accessories did you
really do a fidget spinner i did you're a monster
they sold those didn't they yeah yeah so well
yeah and but you know what i i haven't replenished them as soon as they sold
out that was that was the only stock because that's literally about how long
that yeah that would have been pretty risky
yeah oh yeah all right so there you go razer phone
um i had a lot of people i don't know hold up i don't know where people are getting this from there's some people in
chat being like this is so annoying they said it's not a gaming phone no we didn't we didn't say it's not a gaming
phone oh i thought they were saying razer said it's not a game it's only a gaming phone that's totally a gaming
phone who said it's not a gaming phone i don't know where the chat sort of got that from it's a gaming phone yeah it's
a gaming phone everyone agrees it's a gaming phone yeah we don't know why it's
a gaming phone other than the high refresh rate display and that razer said it is it's got some
RAM yeah battery yeah but it doesn't have like okay this
is the okay i find razer very frustrating sometimes um and this is not because
they didn't send me a phone and they did send some to other tech youtubers that's
not why i'm upset um i did have a call with them about
that so we definitely talked about it but
yeah it's all good not salty but i did blow up their facility yeah which is why
i'm not salty anymore oh apparently they're upset because they called it a
phone for gamers not a gaming phone uh
wow i don't care okay so the problem with with so razor
frustrates me sometimes because they do this stuff they're like and it has the
most amazing battery the best battery
the biggest battery my friend's in the flagship that's an amazing
amazing battery and he really did sound like that a triumph did you watch the
keynote amazing wait did i watch what the uh the tremendous battery basement
no i did not watch the keynote okay it's it's pretty uh it's pretty amazing it's
tremendous it's the best um anyway the point is
they're just like and then they show how big the battery
is and it's 4 000 milliamp hours and i was like uh okay you do realize that the
galaxy s8 active is arguably a flagship phone because it's a galaxy s8
oh and by the way it has a 4 000 milliamp hour battery so yes while
technically you do have oh and also it ignores the
mate 10 so that's a whole other thing um but you could make the argument that if
they're not competing in the same markets then it's the biggest in a
flagship phone no no there's no way there's no way to defend
um so there was so there was a lot of embellishment and razer does tend to do
these things i actually have a bit coming in my upcoming review of the
razer blade 4k um where there were three things in
their reviewer's guide that were either that ranged from misleading to outright
false um and i'm just sitting here going what are
you guys even doing um it's good do your job there's a lot
of companies that do look it up there's a lot of come on yeah i was just i was
finding it particularly cringe-worthy during the year it's frustrating during
this stream the other day um apparently the p2 has a 5100 milliamp
hour battery so so there's that you know what though i don't want to take
anything away from them about the front-facing speakers and the 120 hertz
display both of those are very cool both of those things make it enough of a
gaming phone that i'm not going to razz them too hard
yeah i agree i think the refresh rate i mean there's there's so much emphasis
on pixel pushing like we have the highest resolution phone
ever no we have the highest price and like everyone forgets about refresh rate
so it's kind of cool to see a company like razer who's always been sort of
more gamer centric to come in and be like look res pixel count isn't the only
thing that matters you noobs and you know actually do something about it so
that's cool it did drive i do appreciate that it did drive me pretty crazy when
they were talking about how this was the first mobile device with a variable
refresh rate 120hz display because the last time i checked the ipad pro is
technically not a phone but it's definitely a mobile device
everything's mobile device if you try hard enough that's true uh
technically a desktop is a mobile device if you if you're willing to
sort of put the saddlebags on the pony
you should do a tech quick it's a mobile yeah oh lordy well people in chat are
asking what is a gaming phone i think a 120 hertz phone is a gaming phone right
now yeah i think that's fair yeah yeah it's got extra RAM it's got extra
battery life it's got a nice screen forward-facing speaker so you can sit
there and play your thing sure i mean i i can see why people are upset about no
uh headphone jack on a gaming phone also razer's camera looks pretty trash they
just want you to be really obnoxious on the train from the demo shots
and they didn't really okay i did tune out of the stream before it was
completely over but they didn't really talk about the front-facing camera at all during the like
the may the meat of the announcement not a selfie that bad huh um but well i
don't know maybe it's great but i would expect a gaming phone to have a great
front-facing camera
wow yeah streaming yeah streaming yeah for streaming yeah yeah i would expect
the front-facing camera to be like as good as the rear shooter if you're gonna
say yep this is like the gaming phone yeah
so we'll see that makes sense um all right so we have to do our
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this was a week where we actually had a lot of tech news to cover and then just
didn't um so should we try and go through some of this stuff do you want to talk about blizzard um i mean i'm
down i don't actually have a ton to say surprisingly
um okay so supposed to buy genres on the forum the original articles from pc
gamer i can keep it kind of short there's a lot of places that
this was trending on twitter which just shows how many people are actually into
it i think that's actually kind of cool um there's a huge amount of gaming news
articles that all announce this at like the same time uh i believe yeah this one
actually had some details from blizzard's vice president which was kind
of cool they are bringing back classic servers this is a commitment to do it
this is not a it's coming now um they've
asked for people to be patient i'm kind of suspecting it's going to be like a
year it's going to take time because while some of what they said about why they
couldn't do it sounded like bs there are legitimately
probably some things that will have to be revealed they're hiring a staff
specific specifically for this which is one problem they're going to run into is
trying to find people um that and they're trying to make it so the staff
is all passionate about this project right so they're trying to find very
specific people i'm sure there's tons of them but they're gonna have to vet them and all that kind of stuff
they are changing certain things they're they're they're not making it so
this cross server you will be on one server which is very cool that was one
thing people are really worried about there's no looking for group there's no looking for raid both of those were very
important to people but they will be changing some things i wouldn't be
surprised if there's like achievements and you can like buy certain pets and
like some of the some micro transactions yeah 2017 stuff yeah maybe you can buy a
certain mount that's like from the store only like they do in the modern games i
have no idea but i wouldn't be surprised if there's some micro transaction things
going on but i don't think it'll be anything major i really hope they don't
add a character boost i don't think they will i think it'll be okay um but who
knows yeah no date it's gonna be awesome i'm definitely gonna be on it a lot of
people i know are gonna be on it which is gonna be cool uh if you wanna come
play with me i'm super down let's do it up
that's all i really have to say cool yeah i'm very happy that they
actually did it
let me have a look and see if uh actually some of this stuff we can watch
the yeah i don't know
um it's at the top of the thing if you want to watch it i kind of wanted to talk
about this posted by aluminium tech on the forum original article from the
verge um apple fired the engineer whose daughter's hands-on
video of the iphone 10 went viral
um when she published it
um a lot published early yeah
oh yeah and a lot of people are siding with
the engineer here basically what went down was
she published a vlog that included a trip to the apple campus to visit her
dad and see an unreleased iphone 10.
uh the video was quickly picked up by sites like nine to five mac and spread
even further on youtube um this so her dad basically violated a company rule by
allowing her to film the unreleased handset as filming on apple's campuses
is strictly prohibited the video included footage of an iphone
10 with special employee only qr codes a
notes app was also shown on the iphone 10 in the video which appeared to
include code names of unreleased apple products
wow so a lot of people are kind of defending the engineer
and that is super dumb yeah basically yeah
this was literally in
okay i haven't personally read an apple engineer employee agreement because i'm
not an engineer and i don't think i'm sure this is a huge deal within it but
like yeah that's really bad take this from someone who has never worked at
apple and probably will never work at apple i know
that this would get me fired from apple
it is not rocket surgery to figure out how secretive apple is and
how seriously they would take something like this and even if they didn't want
to do it they would have no choice
they are completely backed into a corner on something like this if the whole
thing had been quiet and the video hadn't gone viral and they had like seen
him doing it been like whoa yo remember you're not supposed to film here
that wouldn't have been fireable probably if they could have just kind of
gone okay we all dodged a bullet there but the fact that this went viral the
fact that it was his daughter so they knew exactly who it was everyone in the
company would see this and go oh well if he can do it then
hashtag yolo who cares i can do it too
apple is so secretive and the development time on a project that apple
would release whether it's an iphone 10 or an apple tv or who knows maybe it's
the apple car whatever it is could be anywhere from six months to 12 months to
24 months to 36 months a company like that is working on tech that you won't
see for years and they have to take that kind of thing
seriously because you look at how quickly their competitors will try to
clone what they're doing with the level of secrecy that they've
achieved and now imagine if their competitors knew that that was the
direction apple was going you know a year or two years or three years in
advance they cannot afford that that is apple's entire value as a you know
whatever however many billions of dollars of con that they're worth
that's apple's value is that they are
for better whether you agree or not that they're innovators that they are trend
setters that they are forward thinkers because the iphone itself as just
a piece of cellular communications hardware is not that special i think we
can all agree on that
and they just they had no choice sorry
people are saying in the chat that he didn't know uh unfortunately it doesn't
actually matter no one cares yeah no it doesn't matter and and like someone in
the comments on the official post from i believe it was the verge was saying like
oh this might be really good for them actually because some other company will just pick them up not necessarily that's
a that's a big mark on your name in that industry like uh
microsoft has fired people for this before and nintendo has fired people for
this before i believe sony has fired people for this before
probably whether we hear about it or not the fact that it's apple and it's the
iphone 10 is probably the only reason that we're hearing about it nintendo
fired not only one parent but both
really yeah and one of them had like super nothing to do with it they're just
like nope your family but that's nintendo yeah
and nintendo's also very vicious about these types of nda banks and they always
have been
in other news broadcom to acquire qualcomm
i actually had no idea that broadcom was that big they should rename to comcom
you don't like broadcall
oh my gosh uh people apparently line up for the iphone 10 so while um a lot of
analysts were super concerned about the fact that no
one seemed that amped on the iphone 8 uh
bloomberg has this fantastic little uh chart in their article on this
where they show lineups and i don't oh
there we go lineups for iphones i don't know how exactly they measured this number of
people lining up in the mornings yeah what whatever anyway it kind of makes
sense this kind of makes sense that plus
and c would have had big lines because all of a sudden there was a cheap iphone
which was kind of neat i guess um iphone 4 was sort of a big deal yeah
it was um iphone 6 6 plus was a huge
deal and then like nothing's really changed since then
um and then iphone 10
showing that even though the iphone 8 8 plus was literally the least exciting
iphone of all time uh the iphone 10 is
right back up there with the five even if it's not up there with the four the
5s 5c and the six and six but then again the four and the six and six plus were
were freaking huge yep so there you go maybe apple's not going
out of business yet after all i don't know um
what else we got going on here razor phone let's see you know what i'm
done okay great show great show today everyone thank you for tuning in we'll
see you again next week same bat time same bat channel bye
boop i feel bad for james when we only cover
like a third of his topic and this was a really good dock too yeah it was
actually an excellent doc of any week to not cover
topics this was the wrong one because there was actually a lot of really good topics yeah i know we i could have
talked about AMD epic getting 64 cores yeah i don't think we talked about it at
all NVIDIA's ai faces which were like amazing which were like actually kind of
cool so tech synergy
but you know if people wanted tech news would they really tune into the land