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Intel's chicken is plucked their net income is down

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114% their margins have shrunk by half and their manufacturing capabilities are

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so out of date that they're paying their competitor tsmc to produce chips for

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them and adding insult to injury their

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new Sapphire Rapids lineup of server CPUs has finally limped to the Finish

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Line two months after AMD's incredibly

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powerful not to mention cheaper epic Genoa counter punch with poor pricing

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and customer hostile Hardware as a service features it's starting to feel

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like we're watching a Goliath Mega Corporation crumbling in slow motion

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under the weight of its own hubris so why then is pulseway

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sponsoring us to tell you about a crappy product that you probably shouldn't buy

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it's because they know that with a new server and workstation processor come

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many of the same old problems and the rmm tools in both pulseway mobile and

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web apps are more than serviceable Solutions and despite the fact that

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these chips are as outdated as they are brand new Intel has their sight set

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clearly on the future an accelerated future and as bad as things look at the

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moment that future might be pretty bright good gravy this thing is thick

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like it's not bigger than last gen but look at the size of it like you could

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hurt a man with it maybe even kill him if you get the angle just right you know

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Sapphire fire Rapids the code name for Intel's fourth generation of Zeon

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scalable CPUs is based on the same golden Cove core architecture that can

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be found in the performance cores of their 12th gen desktop processors Yes

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you heard me last year's consumer chips

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that's a yikes but it does still mean a

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15% IPC uplift over their previous generation Zeon so that's good and

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there's a lot more that's different AMD was the first to bring chiplet CPUs to

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the world processors that use multiple dieses with a high-speed interconnector

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glue as Intel derisively put it at the time how the turntables have turn taed

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this generation xeons then will glue together up to four chiplets to reach

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core counts as high as 60 but the devil's in the details and Intel's glue

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differs from amds in some key ways while

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AMD sticks their compute and their caches together and then lose these core

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complexes to a separate chiplet that contains the memory controller and the

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io Intel has opted to keep all memory

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and IO functions on die with the logic and cache then they take these near

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complete CPUs and wire them to each other using a fabric interconnect which

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means that in some ways it really is more like just gluing multiple CPUs

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together which is hilarious but hey at least they can glue them together in a

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lot of different ways Intel has announced and supposedly released 52 SKS

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of fourth generation Zeon scalable with more apparently coming so it seems like

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part of their strategy then was to find every possible segment of the market and

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build a just right option for it inside

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it are two well one for now but we'll put the second one in in a minute two

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Intel Zeon Platinum 8468 processors each

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with 48 cores 96 threads and a max turbo

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speed of 3.8 GHz these chips are equipped with 105 megab

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of cache have a 350 wat TDP and come in

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at an eye watering list price of

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in the socket and putting the heat sink on that you actually install the CPU to

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the heat sink and put the whole thing on the socket wild right okay so um

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paste you need so much of it we should call

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this oh a bit got in the socket that's

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probably fine you need so much of this they should call this CPU the paste

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eater also because it's been so successful so far okay sorry uh anyo um

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this thing is this is keyed so it only goes in one way oh my God this is

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ridiculous seriously this is what holds

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this in this ARM yeah thanks I hate it

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no no no no no no no no no this is what helps you get it out so you put it oh

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this levers it out okay so you just

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stick this boy in here oh my god

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seriously Intel you have how many billions of dollars to spend on

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engineering and this is the solution this is exactly the kind of precision

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engineered Jank that I would expect from Intel and then when it's time to get it

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out you use this little lever to pop it up okay we're not going to do that right

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now ridiculous okay we got a little bit of

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thermal compound in the socket but um it looks like it mostly fell between the

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pins so hopefully this is going to work for RAM we have 512 gigs of 4800 megat

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transfer per second ddr5 which sounds like a lot but that is a fraction of the

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maximum that this server can handle thanks to Intel's support for up to

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eight channels of ddr5 per CPU and

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unlike AMD's competitor up to two dims

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per channel that puts the total memory support for this system with two CPUs in

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it at 12 terabytes the fck each CPU also

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brings 80 Lanes of PCIe Gen 5 expansion

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to the table up to five integrated Hardware accelerators assuming you pay

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Intel to unlock them we'll definitely get to that later and on their soon to

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be released zeeon Max series of CPUs they're gluing up to 64 GB of high

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bandwidth memory 2E directly on the package this could end up giving AMD's

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3D vcash technology a run for its

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money coming back to glue for a moment This Server may only have two sockets in

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it but the highest tier of sapphire Rapids chips can glue as many as eight

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of these chips together in a single server meaning that you could have up to

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960 threads of computation on a single board absolutely dwarfing AMD epic which

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is expected to cap out at just two sockets and 512 threads per system even

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on their upcoming Bergamo CPUs that's a lot of cores to do out to your virtual

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machines thankfully you can easily manage and monitor all that stuff

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offsite with pulseway mobile app it helps you track performance and you can

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get notified of a VM is acting out of turn and snipe it from the comfort of

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wherever your phone is not only does pulseway give you complete control over

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your servers and network computers from any mobile phone or tablet but their web

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app is also great for it management if you need to run updates or have concerns

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about CPU temperatures pulseway has intuitive automation tools for Windows

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Mac and Linux this means that you can approach monitoring across your entire

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environment without the need to micromanage every operation now let's

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get this thing up and running shall we maybe give cine bench a go to get an idea of all core

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performance I hope it actually turns on

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we did not anticipate this uh dang it Adam give her one of these

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yeah it's not there yeah okay well hold on let's put the shrouds in before they

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start trying to blow away the computer

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you have to have the touch uh it's not turning on we got blinking lights yeah

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we're g we're blinking up here it's still not turning on holy

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that's it that's the noise we

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want well let's see if it actually boots

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we did get it to turn on but there's a memory training error which means it's

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not seated properly so all we can really do until we find out where our torque

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wrenches because engineering has it is kind of try to get these the

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same very clever packaging this is apparently our torque screwdriver do you

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happen to have a T30 bit okay how do I I

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don't know oh you've never used it

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no damn it ttin well sure yeah I mean

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you've probably used more Torque screwdrivers than I have manual why

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would I use a manual I've got people for

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that okay inch oh my god wow that's fun

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okay so how many newton meters it's uh

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0.904 this is scary this seems like too much okay then go to last the good news

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is if we Breck this thing we've already benchmarked everything so we'll just

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continue the video and pretend this didn't happen well one thing we know for

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sure is that it's a bit of a finicky socket to install in that's good for the

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dozens of you who will deal with this to know the good news as I mentioned before

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is that we already tested all this stuff ahead of time so wow what a fast

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cinebench render that we would have been looking at on this monitor but wait a

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challenger from team red approaches that's right we got another server and

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this one is equipped with a single Flagship AMD epic

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9654 but that's not fair lonus you might

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say you can't put two CPUs up against

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one I can and I will two Intel 8468

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costs $14,400 one Epic 9654 costs around

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$112,000 same number of cores better

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price and on paper they even hit similar

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all core frequencies shall we drag Ras them well spoiler we

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did it already so yes AMD is faster how

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about a blender render haha yes we did

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this already and AMD is faster again but

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as interesting as those tests are we should really be looking at workloads

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that are closer to what these server chips were actually built for like

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managing databases or virtualization unfortunately for Intel

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the story doesn't really get any Ros you're here postgres sees Intel get

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absolutely trounced by AMD I mean losing by that much in one of the most popular

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types of databases that's a really bad sign and what about grx a molecular

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Dynamic simulator well here Intel

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actually manages to pull out a win so their high performance compute dreams

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might not be totally crushed until you

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consider their margin of Victory here compared to their margin of defeat in

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pretty much any other General compute task epic is just looking like the

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obvious choice here unless you know for a fact that you're going to run one

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application and one only that happens to benefit from Intel's chip design and for

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all the Ruckus that Intel has made about efficiency improvements they lose in

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every single one of our tests and we understand that a dual socket system

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will use more power than a single socket system so this isn't a onetoone

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comparison but here's the thing if AMD only needs a single socket for 96 cores

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well what am I supposed to do hamstring it by saying no you must have more

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sockets of course not and neither would any decent procurement officer who's

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evaluating this hardware for their needs if you want a many core server Intel

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Sapphire Rapids costs more to buy and

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costs more to run and they have no one to blame but themselves

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today but as we said Intel is laser

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focused on the future and that future is AI so they put extra effort into

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implementing accelerators for AI inferencing and other common workloads

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directly onto the CPU now if you're a consumer the concept of a hardware

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accelerator might already be familiar unlike the general purpose cores on your

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chip accelerators are hyper efficient for specific workloads but then

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essentially useless for anything else Hardware video decoders for example are

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what makes it possible to watch YouTube for hours on end without your phone

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turning into a hot potato but that is all they do and they take up valuable

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die space Intel clearly thought that was worthwhile and the first big one they

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built in is AMX which stands for advanced Matrix

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extensions sorry sorry you can think of this one as kind

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of an evolution of AVX or Advanced Vector extensions it is ideally going to

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provide a massive increase in the CPU's ability to perform AI inference with

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Intel sighting up to a 10 times improvement over ABX 512 I mean to be

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clear this is not going to replace dedicated accelerators like NVIDIA's T4

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cards but it's a lot better than nothing

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so do they win out in a light AI workload then that's a yes with a

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capital h y AMX can perform AI tasks with

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double or triple the performance of AVX 512 that's fast almost as fast as you'll

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be in our new LTT tracksuit in general the lead over AMD

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is Stark even if this doesn't translate to gains in every AI workload and it

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could prove to be more and more useful into the future as we see small AI tasks

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sneak their way into software that might run on a system like this as opposed to

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a dedicated machine learning box that's stuffed full of

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gpus what do the rest of these accelerators do well first their data

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streaming accelerator should improve performance in tasks where data is

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constantly generated by hundreds if not thousands of sources like logging the

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Telemetry data of many different sensors that you might be monitoring after a

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scheduled remote patch that you initiated with pulseway the inmemory

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analytics accelerator moves important analytical calculations of databases

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away from the CPU course then Intel's Dynamic load balance are supposed to

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help manage and distribute work across the many cores in your CPU finally quick

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Assist Technology accelerates encryption and compression the idea here is pretty

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sound and you can think of it kind of like how pulseway works I know I keep

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bringing pulseway into it they sponsor the video what do you want so with

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pulseway you could do everything

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manually right but it's slower and it's less efficient so you can think of

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pulseway as kind of like a hardware accelerator for your workpace you spend

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some of your time using their intuitive automation workflow then your repetitive

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tasks run on autopilot allowing you to focus your brain power on important

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things which improves productivity or saves power uh whichever it appeals to

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you more the thing is though while we would love to put all of these

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accelerators little timesavers efficiency makers to the test it's still

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early days and software support simply isn't there yet and it might never get

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there it all depends on whether organizations end up making use of these

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accelerators there is one feature though that Intel has ready at launch and it's

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got their shareholders a buzz even if nobody else is impressed it's called

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Intel on demand and frankly calling it a feature seems kind of generous what it

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does is it allows customers to upgrade their CPUs by paying Intel to unlock the

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hardware accelerators that are already in the Silicon on the chip but are

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blocked through software the most charitable possible

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take here is that this will allow Enterprise customers to Save A Buck at

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the time of purchase and then upgrade their chips down the line to accelerate

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new workloads no need to remove replace place and reconfigure a brand new server

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which can be a hassle especially with how finicky these CPUs are you just

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unlock the features you need and you're on your way massively reducing the time

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to value for customers well that's great right savings on initial purchases is a

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good thing well kind of except that at

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risk of painting their entire 52 skew lineup with a broad brush Sapphire

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Rapids is a pretty bad deal up front and

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that's even before you pay Intel's ransom for unlocking the hardware they

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already sold you you I mean I'm not sure how it happened but Intel managed to

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price their topend chip 50% higher than

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amds which as we've already discussed kind of dunks on it so then how is it

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that Intel still has so much of the Enterprise market and why aren't more

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customers crossing the line over to AMD

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well it's a combination of factors first up is long-term deals many of these

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Sapphire rapid CPUs were purchased long ago and customers just been waiting

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through the delays for them to finally be delivered Intel also has both the

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manufacturing capacity and the engineering staff to support the kinds

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of customers who buy chips in the hundreds or the thousands or even the

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tens of thousands rather than one by one like you or I might do over the next

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couple of years though it's clear that AMD is going to continue to consume

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Intel's valuable data center market share especially in servers that rely on

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general purpose High Core count SE CPUs

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for specific workloads that can take advantage of Intel's accelerators though

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AMD has a lot of work to do and it's going to take some time but that's okay

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they've clearly got it and as bad as Intel's quarterly results and forecast

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look so do they I mean turning a ship as

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big as Intel takes years and they have plenty of cash on hand to navigate this

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rough patch I mean look at AMD many were skeptical that they would ever be able

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to turn it around after their embarrassing bulldozer line of CPUs but

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a CEO Swap and 5 or 6 years later the company was fully revitalized as they

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began launching product after product that made Intel shake in their boots

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like like what's happening now thanks again to pulseway when it comes to

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monitoring and management these folks are great so if you're an MSP or you

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your devices like we do check them out in the video description
