all right and we're live you guys know what it was this is hilarious it was uh
Power cycling or not power yeah Power cycling the microphone so um funnily
enough well not even power cycling the microphone cycling the phantom power
switch on our mixer for the microphone because actually powering down the
entire mixer and then powering it back up completely didn't address the issue
but pressing the button and then pressing it again did for whatever
freaking reason I can't even begin to Fathom this stuff it's too complicated
for me cuz I'm stupid don't know anything anyway
um I'm sure there's an explanation for this that was so depressing I know I'm
stupid don't know anything but these people are all
listening to me what does that make them wow what's with okay we need to start
talk depressing everything's depressing I know I'm whenever the show is laid
depressed I was talking to him about this offline and I'm like I know you
guys hate it when the show is late we hate it when the show is late too
because like I feel personally responsible for all the hours of time
that are being wasted while people sit and wait for us and that's terrible and
we went as far as to buy completely new
sets of all of our equipment so that everything the camera the lens the
microphone the boom pole the mixer the compressor the computer everything stays
in this room and we we don't touch it other than to live stream that's how far
we went to make sure that our show was on time for you guys and yet here we are
and we still have these issues and I'm really really sorry but enough of that
let's get this thing started shall we the big news this week is obviously
Facebook's acquisition of
oculus oh this is hilarious uh twitch is
like confirmed W show acquired by Facebook no not so much our setup would
have probably worked if we had that much money and you know what that's one of
the positive things to take away from this whole thing we're going to get into it in more depth later but we do have
some other initial topics here that I just want to sort of throw at you guys
that we will be talking about so NVIDIA had a call earlier this week where they
talked about their plans with respect to directex 12 and how that figures into
their overall strategy you know what's funny is I don't think NVIDIA ever
actually outright said we are not going to support men no matter how open it is
in fact I think they still haven't said that but
no they also pushed a big update for NVIDIA SHIELD this week which is a huge
deal allows things like off off-site game stream uh so we'll get into more
details on that later but like three good luck scrolling through the document
yeah four five pages of our document are all Oculus this week so it's going to be
kind of a big deal NVIDIA also launched the Titan Z Bitcoins are now considered
property and without further Ado let's get this intro done so we can get this
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easily all right so let's get into our first topic here let's just do something
before like the train wreck of the let's
do one topic I don't even think so you don't even think so you want to get okay
let's do this thing I honestly just think we jump right into okay so I the
role of lus over the next um 45 minutes
or so will be played by um I'm going to
go get Jeff so you you go ahead and get started you have input on this do I you
talked to me a little bit Jeff has input too okay and I'm not letting you make
Jeff's voice not heard I did murder him earlier no literally n okay well as all
of you know at this point I'm sure and if you don't how what I no um so Oculus
was acquired by Facebook for $400 million cash and what equated to a total
with that cash of $2 billion in cash and stock auctions so they got2 billion kind
of because a lot of it Facebook stock which went down a lot recently resulting
in about a negative $112 million change
on that deal although everyone suspects that Facebook stock is just going to
bounce back so it probably actually won't matter in the end and they're not
exactly selling all this stock immediately anyways because they're
probably going to have to sell it over time and then blah blah blah blah blah
so there's tons of speculation around that so whatever it was $2 billion deal
we'll figure out how much that equates to in the end and I'm sure by that time no one will really care anyways there's
a bunch of negative and positive um angles you can take on this I'm going to
go through the negative ones first at least these are angles that I've seen
people take already there's obviously some that'll pop up later on that we haven't talked about yet but the
negative angles the main ones I've seen is people on the internet don't trust
Acquisitions generally whenever there's an acquisition people on the internet
just hate it all right moving on they
said they weren't interested in being acquired before there's actually quite a few quotes of them saying Oh we won't
have to be acquired by some big company and that's a good thing blah blah blah blah blah and now they're acquired by a
huge company so that's interesting I guess guess moving on being acquired due
to Kickstarter success feels like betrayal Notch actually echoed this by
saying that he didn't donate $10,000 just as a seed fund so they
could be acquired by a huge company that's not an exact quote but it's
something along those lines we'll get more into that later the internet kind
of as a glommed whole obviously not the
entire thing but just generally the voice of the internet dislikes Facebook
so this the vocal the vocal minority cuz
I mean if you look at you look at Facebook's user base it's huge obviously
the whole internet doesn't refuse to use Facebook what a lot of people see as the
internet the popular opinion voice of
the internet folk yeah not necessarily the action but the voice of the internet
yeah um Facebook is deemed as creepy by
people like Notch again we'll get into Notch's comments on this later um people
wanted Oculus to stick with its home brew roots and signing up with Facebook
is not exactly sticking with Homebrew Roots um why didn't some other company
buy them and there's been a whole bunch of things like like valve and all these
other things which may or may not make any sense at all but we'll get into that
later again um really it's worth
WhatsApp is worth 10 times as much as Oculus almost we'll get into that later
um and all the comments of oh my God Farmville 3D and Facebook pop-ups all
over your face and all that kind of stuff again we'll get into that later
now there's the positive angles that I've seen a lot of people take um it
will drive some new immersive experiences that are going to be very
deep you're gonna be able to go and hopefully travel different places experience different things shop online
virtually hopefully be able to see sizing and stuff like that because your avatar will be the right size blah blah
blah blah blah tons of new experiences that you weren't expecting before
whether not you think that's a good thing this is a positive angle um The
increased funding is allowing them to hire more Talent uh like Michael abrash which
we'll talk about later that's amazing actually that's incredibly awesome um
they we're already being controlled by investors is another big one
um actually pretty deeply rooted one that we're going to get into later that
I have a ton of theories about and some really interesting quotes uh that we've
seen over the past month or two which really hint to this but we'll talk about
that later again um they didn't get purchased by another gaming hardware
company that would have been a disaster in my mind I mean if they' been bought
by I've actually seen people suggest that Sony or Microsoft would have been a
better option terrible have been disastrous I mean you look at how closed
Xbox and Playstation are as E Systems
and even even like the Oculus Community which is generally right now makers
hackers hardcores all that kind of stuff have been talking but like there there's
the there's there's there's the Tuscany demo you can go to a small version of
Tuscany and enjoy that environment something that I've talked about on the stream before was how I hoped that
someone would go and recreate something like Rome and make it so that someone
even if they're in an old folks home could travel the world and experience these things this is very cool and you
don't want to get locked into a gaming Hardware Niche and have none of that ever be possible right now Oculus is
open of course gaming is going to drive it but hopefully it opens up so again
these are all positive angles um they can now afford custom Hardware they've
been scraping off what they can kind of manage to get from the mobile market
like mobile phones and now they'll actually be able to make Hardware that
is designed and built and manufactured for the rift instead of like something
that was made for something else and they're just kind of hacking it and forcing it in there and making it work
because I mean and this is something that with sort of the whole negative thing um where the the makers and
hackers don't really feel that great about Oculus not staying true to the
home brew Roots but those guys also want
a fantastic VR experience and purpose made Hardware is
going to be a big way to get there yeah
all right so are we going through the history now or one one more
uh oh crap where did it go I can't remember where it is doesn't
matter I'll get into it later um so how I designed this document and how I think
we're going to go through this is actually like kind of the progression of
thought of kind of a lot of people and
how people found out different news and part of maybe the reason why it started
off as a massive explosion not that it isn't still a massive explosion you can
make your own decision on whether or not it's positive or negative and we'll get
into that kind of stuff later but we're just going to go through how things
happened and why things happened and uh the reason we're going to do that I mean
I've seen a few comments in twitch chat from people saying oh I'm not that
interested in Oculus uh okay two things number one yes you are you just don't
know it yet and number two Oculus is
well basically the same as number one Oculus and VR in general is extremely
important and this is a turning point in
not just gaming and not just Oculus but
in VR and in that's going to mean for
the future so that's why we are dedicating almost an entire show to it
you guys can stay tuned in and this is going to be a really great show um Luke
in particular has worked extremely hard
on making sure that we're bringing you guys some really good coverage of what
happened this week um so you can stay tuned in and you can enjoy that or if
you don't think this is important legitimately don't think this is important then I mean you can probably
tune back in in about 45 minutes or an hour and we'll get into some of the NVIDIA stuff and some of the other stuff
this week but this is such a big deal right now and in the future another
thing that I wanted to bring up the the thing I forgot to bring up on the positive angles thing which is actually
not on the dock which is probably why you started talking is uh even if you
are done with oculus it doesn't matter
VR is now going to happen because there's been this big of an investment
other investment firms are going to look into other companies and start pouring a
lot more money into VR because Facebook is huge and they are a competitor a
natural competitor of many things so VR is now going to happen there's a lot lot
of people have been going like oh Oculus is dead now whether or not they're dead
doesn't matter even if they're the sacrificial lamb it's going to happen
now VR is we made it when one company
Dives in and invests a couple billion then everyone else kind of goes oh this
matters so so whether Facebook thinks it's important so all of a sudden VR
companies are going to be acquired by big guys and they're going to get
investment funding and all the funding and it's going to happen and it's going
to be really great whether it's the kind of great we envisioned or not whether or
not you think Oculus is now the sacrificial L that's going to die or if
you think they're just going to be the biggest thing on the planet doesn't matter it's happening which is which is
a good thing so it started off with the posts by uh Mark Zuckerberg and Palmer
lucky on Palmer posting on Reddit and on
the blog for Oculus and Mark posting on
Facebook can you um can you make sure that okay I'm going to try and keep up
with you and post and stuff since I won't have a whole ton to say um at the
start it should be fairly easy it's starting off fairly slow especially because I'm I'm mainly going over the
future VR red post so I'm going to stay there for a while and then it might get
a little bit so I'm going to go ahead and drop this in there yeah so I'm going to start off with some very notable
things that were said in Palmer's post on Reddit um he said we we've reached
we've received orders of over 75,000 development kits from game developers
content creators and artists around the world there's and I'm going to comment
on each thing that I've read in here and then go into other comments later on one
big thing that people were attacking him over on this was a lot of people that
went into this aren't game developers content creators and artists I'm not a
game developer content creator or an artist of course you're not particularly
talented at all are you no I think you're great that was so
me anyways I dabbled in making some
stuff in unity and it was fun to be completely honest but I didn't make anything that was worth releasing I'm
not a I'm not a game designer I'm I've I've dabbled in programming but I'm not
that amazing um and I know everyone I
know that's bought one isn't any of these things they're interested in the
company so people were worried that he was abusing that number to try and get
investment feeds and before cancelling because they're trying to vote with their wallet whatever we'll get more
into that later um another quote from there was
when Facebook first approached us about partnering I was skeptical a lot of
people were like you probably should have kept that angle um we'll get more into that later
and why he ended up doing it all that kind of stuff um Facebook is run in an
open way that is aligned with oculus is culture a lot of people respond in
saying how is Facebook aligned in an with oculus at all in an open way blah
blah blah blah blah but there is reasons for and against that they have pushed
for a lot of open development people are saying oh no they haven't they actually
have they've invested quite a bit of money in open development some of their stuff is proprietary and closed but not
everything they do push for some open stuff they've talked a lot about even
things like the architecture that they use to make Facebook so responsive with
such a with s the heavy load that it has um open about a lot they are pushing
connectivity forward in some ways and I don't want this to feel like I'm some
kind of a Facebook Fanboy I'm not but I
didn't even have it until I needed to be able to admin the L sector's Facebook
page yeah I know right so like yeah I don't know we're yeah it's just that's
just a fact they haven't been completely against openness uh no matter how you
want to see it uh it means Oculus Rift with oculus rift with fewer Oculus Rift
will be able to come out with fewer compromis and faster which is that's
just probably true there's tons more money yeah they can pay more for
manufacturing they can push things through faster um Oculus is somewhat
unpredictable future just became Crystal Clear virtual real reality is coming and
it's going to change the way we View and play games forever that was slightly
edited but it's essentially what we were talking about earlier VR is happening
now yeah no matter what um another quote from him I'm obsessed with VR I spend
every day pushing further and every night dreaming of where we're going uh
even in my wildest dreams I never imagine we come so far so fast I'm a
proud member of this community thank you all for carrying virtual reality and
gaming forward and trusting us to deliver we won't let you down so he said
all that but the reality of it is is he can't say anything else so we're not
sure what to read into this I think at
the at the end of the day if you trust Palmer and you trust the Oculus team
it's not like they can just bail and start again because Oculus the company
owns so many patents now that they in
all likelihood wouldn't even be able to
start up again and go back up against their old company I'm sure there's some
type of non-compete agreements and stuff too but there's there there is things in
here people were wondering like oh are those uh Notch actually specifically I'm
going to jump down right here so let's clarify who Notch is Minecraft DE
Minecraft creator Notch uh actually replied on this exact Reddit thread
saying you got my respect before I met you you kept it when I met you blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I'm going to
jump forward a little bit um where I
just hope you got your fair share VR will live on thank you for being part of
making it finally happen but I really wish this hadn't happened the main part
I was trying to say is I understand you're probably under a big NDA and
stuck in golden handcuffs um which which is interesting
but you also have to realize that you've got Palmer and which is interesting a
lot of people started to trust palmer but you have John karmac mhm John carmac
isn't just going to shut up and code
because someone's slapping dollar bills at him yeah that's not going to happen
so if if this does start getting forced in a bad direction if I were you guys
paying attention I would listen to John carac honestly personally I'm going to listen to Palmer too but he is a lot
newer to the scene than John freaking karmac John karmac says whatever he
wants as far as I can tell and as far as anyone can probably tell I'm going to go
ahead and so if you if you really want to get some feedback uh karmac actually
posted on Twitter about 3 days ago he basically said look the volume of tweets
right now is way too high can't even begin to look at it all but if you hit
me in a few days or like once the poop storm starts to die down a little bit
then he does want to engage he does want to engage he does want to talk about it
um when I initially saw that it was radio Silence from carac for the first
couple of days after the acquisition that set off some warning Bells maybe
he's unhappy but it looks now as if he
was just weathering the storm he he actually he said I'm currently coding he
was essentially being like guys I'm working well that's a blog post from uh
from when that was from yesterday or the day before right yeah I'm currently coding that was pretty early on actually
so he's like yeah I'm still coding just the same as I was this time last week so
for all intents and purposes nothing has changed and that was echoing the idea
that the Facebook acquisition hadn't changed anything anyways moving on um
people were asking when they saw notch in the comments they were asking him a whole bunch of questions and they were
basically saying please tell me it's going to be all right Notch replied with
a lot of companies are working on V now this means competition this means better
VR and higher chances of a mass Market acceptance this means even better VR
it's going to be all right very small italicize print maybe so that Echoes
again the thing that we said earlier where no matter what you think about this it's pushing VR forward whether or
not Oculus is what carries the torch in the end they're carrying it right now um
people are saying to Palmer you are the chosen one you were supposed to destroy
the Sith not join them bring balance to the voice not leave it in darkness um I
just had to to keep that in there because it was kind of funny now echoing
one of the most highly upvoted posts on the thread these were a bunch of the
concerns Facebook is known for its intrusive tracking of users Facebook is
undoubtedly a massive company it is beginning to lose a lot of its teenage
population due to more widespread use of the older population and the fact that
Oculus has been acquired by Facebook Palmer has repeatedly said um part
partnership or partnering um but they were acquired so he was worried about
that terminology where it might just be kind of a hay and Palmer thinks they're
partnering up but really Facebook is the one on top so those were the the the
main things spoken there um about the
Facebook is known for intrusive tracking of users uh as far as I can tell if the
if the lead people of oculus still have anything to say about it that platform is going to be really open and you'll
probably know about it so that might be a bad thing but again Oculus is carrying
the torch now so if later on down the line you see an update like the update
we saw on uh mobile says like Facebook is now reading all of your text messages
despite having nothing to do with those um you should know about it so just pay
a lot of attention and then I mean Facebook's whole thing I don't see anything in your notes here but
Facebook's whole thing has been we're we want Oculus to operate pretty basically
independently um just like what we did with Instagram and WhatsApp but my
counter to that is I mean you look at Mark Zuckerberg's blog post where he
talks about the future of connectivity and how EXC cting these experiences we
can deliver you know whether it's travel or whether it's having a face to- face
meeting with someone or or whatever it happens to be when he talks about that
we're talking like a 10year 20 year outlook and they acquired Instagram like
two years ago and they acquired WhatsApp
like so this is not a track record of
acquiring companies and letting them operate independently this is this is in
the last like little tiny amount of time
like since lonus Media Group was formed
they haven't really disrupted things with their two big Acquisitions so the
fact that all this is being said now uh
I mean you look at how quickly politicians can turn around and have a campaign and then go back on that and
still get elected four years later the collective memory of people is so short
that even if Facebook does exert complete control over Oculus in let's
let's use four years as an example because that's the elected term in the
US and Canada for politicians so even if
Facebook does in 4 years exert complete
control and four years after that plaster the whole platform with ads and
use it as a way to collect data on where you go what you look at and all of this
great stuff probably no one will ever even remember this happened and except
you except for me um now we get into the
poop storm that that was the start of it and that was people honestly in that
Reddit thread I found it to be more calm than elsewhere which was kind of
confusing things started popping up people started digging up things on both
Facebook and Oculus first want that one first first thing yeah there's a really
bad word in it um first thing that comes to mind is a very old screenshot from a
conversation that um Mark Zuckerberg had when he said um yeah so if you ever need
any info on about anyone at Harvard just ask I have over 4,000 emails pictures
addresses SNS Etc and then the guy said
how do you manage that he said people just submitted it I don't know why they
trust me dumb well yeah we don't say
that word on this show but you guys can read it's right there yeah um so like
that's not cool especially because of speculation that VR devices are going to
get things like eye tracking the fact that this thing is strapped to your
freaking face so if you're looking at a certain product or something like that
they know it's not just like in another tab you are looking at it with your face
and I'm not blaming AMD for this but they're true audio technology so the
programmable DSP that like it's it's like a really powerful sound processor
they showed off some really cool demos with respect to voice recognition so all
of a sudden now hold on a second because
we went from you know um not being too
worried about people really tapping into anything that we're doing to all of a
sudden is face to-face conversation
going to be the only way to actually not have anyone listening and are we going
to allow ourselves to be convinced that aside from phone taps and messaging Taps
um when you have a VR conversation with someone like uh I mean you look at the
kinds of things the kinds of experiences that VR could bring us do you want
Facebook listening to everything you say when you have a family reunion and
everyone's vring in because what a cool
experience but they'll be able to recognize everything you say and use
that information Facebook wants to own your information and what
this and Zuckerberg said a really stupid
thing in a text Mage and it's old and it's old and he was stupid and he was
young and I'm sure he would be the first to admit that that was a super stupid
thing to say and he would take it back 100% today if he could but it still
happened but it did happen
um so you guys can read into that whatever you want but I do believe that
while people don't change much I think
they can grow up and I hope that that was just a young college guy having a
and I think that's when was only tied into Harvard and like a lot of things
have changed since then another thing that people are worried about with the Facebook thing is again all of your data
blah blah blah blah blah and I know in one of kac's tweets he said like if you
guys blog or whatever about this I'm going to pay attention so and he said
like things that you're worried about and ways that it can be fixed and stuff like that so if you do have to be
listening that's really cool hi also um like creepiness Factor try to control
the creepiness Factor make sure it's open make sure people know what's going on because I think that's honestly the
biggest reason why people are scared of Facebook is just the fact that Facebook
can be really creepy um so that's probably the biggest thing I'd say um
the camera that is now on Oculus people
we don't really have it yet so we don't know if it's actually taking images or if it's only scanning for IR LEDs but
who knows what'll happen in the future maybe there's an actual camera fixed on
that thing um that's and you know what's scary is I
would opt in for the camera model for sure I I already yeah yeah like okay
even if told DK even if even if it was an option if someone was like look we
can put an IR tracker one only and you can put IR you know kits around in your
room or whatever else or we can give you one with a camera you get like a
skeleton frame yeah no I know and like that's I would take the camera one even
if I knew that they were looking at what I was looking at because of it's going to be such a great experience I
are going to do that so like I said what we're worried about is the creepiness
Factor so just try and keep that under control and all right what's our next
one our next one is Oculus is not connected with Facebook this is just
kind of funny it's just kind of fun won't spend much time on this one taking a break from the hate so with during the
and now actually which is kind of hilarious this was taken earlier today
it's not like a yeah I do yeah I've seen
people screenshot that that's my screenshot though cuz I couldn't find it at the time but Oculus had not connected
with Facebook during the campaign and they still haven't on Kickstarter at least which is just kind of hilarious
John karmac may or may not even have a Facebook account there's a Facebook
account for John carac up right now but it looks like super public figure
Facebook account and like the title is Godfather of moving 3D images or
something like that I doubt that he put that in there doesn't seem like his
style no and it's not like verified or anything he did tweet that he'll
probably have to get a Facebook account now but I don't think he's rushing to do
it he's probably busy coding cuz he's kind of Awesome with that um anyways
moving on to the thing that had me super pissed off off at the beginning the
reason why I thought the entire thing was just ruined and why I basically
cried over Twitter for a little while and the reason that a lot of people felt
this way this New York Times post was brutal and honestly where I think most
of the hate came from um just jumping into saying what's exactly in the
article according to a person a person involved with the deal who was not
allowed to speak publicly because he was not authorized by either company
Facebook eventually plans to redesign the Oculus hardware and Rebrand with a
Facebook interface and Logo which didn't even make any sense really like what
does that even mean but that's why that's one of the reasons why I was so
mad right because the whole deal didn't make sense on the surface social network
acquiring VR Gaming company and then it's like rebranding and calling what
the heck yeah like what what is this exactly since then Facebook has made
their intentions much more clear and this was was
wholeheartedly denied like it was hammered down but it sat there for a
while and let a lot of people stew and it was it was scary and I love how it's
like a small part of that article too and it's not like a like a you know how
they pop it out and make it big and make it a different color and all that kind of stuff like The Verge does uh they
didn't do that with it or anything like it's it's it's kind of at the bottom but
it's like the most important thing in the entire article um but yeah that's
been shut down pretty quick so no longer
worry about that um and then other
things start coming out like the people are saying it's an internal call um I've
heard a lot of news that it actually wasn't an internal call it was quite
public but I have no idea which is true either way I don't care it was as far as
I know an investor call for Oculus and Facebook and there's some QA and Mark
Zuckerberg's on the call and it's fairly interesting but almost all the way
through the call there's the part that most people actually listen to I ended
up listening to the whole thing but this is the part that people really cared
about it's really long I don't know if I'll actually read through the whole
thing how about I read it I'm fast go all right so he says so this is from
Zuckerberg he says in terms of our business model we're clearly not a hardware company we're not going to try
and make a profit off the device itself in the long term and we see this as a
software and services thing where if we can make it so that this becomes a
network so that people can be communicating and buying things like
virtual Goods uh there might be adverts in the world but we need to figure that
out down the line so that's probably where the business will come from but for the foreseeable future the main goal
that we have is building out the product using the different levers that Facebook
has to make the technology affordable and to make it ubiquitous and to use the
different technologies that Facebook has developed to bring it to Market as soon as
possible so there you go that's the plan
whether that makes it any less scary to you or not for me it doesn't at all um
clearly the plan is investing in the platform and making it successful so
that's the priority and they will figure out the monetization later so it's the
whole internet company startup model except this time being applied to an
actual piece of Hardware because that piece of hardware is so directly tied
into the software experience they can't exist without each other now this I
cover that okay yeah this scared and didn't scare a lot of people for
multiple reasons um it scared people because it was an internal call the
second that came out everyone freaked out whether or not that's even true I
don't know um people only heard the advertisement part and freaked out one
thing you have to remember that this is an investment call this isn't this
wasn't a this wasn't the public post on Facebook this was an investment call he
Zuckerberg can't just be like well yeah I want to play VR games so I bought this
company so that I can like make this thing even better I mean I don't think
that's it although it'd be super cool if he was like if you read his Facebook
posts it's the most like oh my God I love this thing post that I've seen of
anyone ever so who knows there may even
be a little bit of that and we can hope for that because if he's truly
passionate about the technology then I
kind of go okay maybe it'll be okay but then
probably not because in the future he'll still have to bend to the the needs of
his investors and monetize the heck out of the platform but then by the time
that happens you're talking years in the future something else will be there as
well yep it like doesn't matter there will be a competitor for Rift so we have
to hope that they build up the Technology Drive everything further make
this stuff um because make it profitable for developers to develop for VR
definitely and then hopefully competitors will jump in The Fray because even if you're still a huge fan
of oculus it doesn't matter competitors are good competition is always good it
drives Innovation competition is good so anyways okay moving on there's some
other weird stuff this is this is actually largely stuff that I haven't
seen around a ton but things that I've noticed over the last little while so
starting off with oculus dropping out of the immersive technology Alliance kind
of awkwardly dropping out of the immersive technology Alliance so super
awkward yeah um the immersive technology Alliance is a nonprofit games Collective
that is focused on bringing stuff like augmented reality virtual reality 3D and
Chester control technology to the masses um it's it's an alliance there's tons of
these things there's the DVD Alliance there's there there's tons of them
um basically any standard whether it's like USB or DisplayPort is going to
have some kind of group of individuals or companies or investors or entities
that manage the standard and drive it Forward because if they don't things get
kind of insane usually so it's like the
high-profile virtual reality company Oculus Rift recently dropped over the
this Alliance but Oculus claims they were never a part of it yet the ITA guys
are saying they were a big part of it and actually helped them move from what
they previously known as which was S3 DGA to the newly named ITA and Oculus
actually had them like remove their branding from their website and everything and basically just dropped
the ball moved back as far as they possibly could and say I was never
playing which is interesting and this is not the newest news um this was from a
little while ago I think I actually shortly mentioned it on the show but
because I didn't really know what it meant at the time I didn't make it a huge topic um it's it's just weird and
the timing's a little bit off so they basically ITA is saying that they got
their first official notification that Oculus was leaving the alliance late in
the evening on March 15th yeah so this was like pretty pretty close to when the
deal happened and it's just this article is super super weird it's on polygon.com
I don't think I there's not a lot of comments on it and no one's commented on
it since like the 18th right so it's
yeah it's I don't know I just find that's interesting because they got
acquired by Facebook and then they locked off from the alliance that's
trying to make some sort of standard so that's interesting then if you click on
the thread so this is where everything kind of started um this is
MTB mtbs 3d.com I I always screw that up
U which is where Palmer is a huge member of this forum and this is where the the
Epic like massive three
4,235 post thread started and this is yeah this is just a big deal and if you
contr f for uh where is it sell out to a
large company you can see a big thread where
he answers a whole bunch of questions and right in the middle of it he says um
Oculus is going forward in a big way but in a way that still lets me focus on the
Community First and not sell out to a large company a lot of people were very
upset about this comment because
Community First not sell out to a large company so now people are saying are you
no longer Community First because you sold out to a large company um the
problems with this are if you jump into the next one the big $75 million
investment that happened um not way too
long ago the guy that did that works for Facebook actually if you check out the
board of directors which I also have linked here this is where I was telling you you're going to get into rapid fire
all I got this uh if you check out the board of directors you can see him there
Mark Andre I believe um you can see him
on the board of directors for Facebook and he was a huge investment pool right
there and then quotes that have been fairly recently coming out of Palmer
saying Oculus has already sold out by raising Venture Capital money because
they had these investors that were able to control them a little bit and Palmer
said that a lot they already sold out and then they were acquired by Facebook
the same company that their big 75 million dollar investor is on the board
of directors for which is really interesting and it also even seems like
he was trying to tell us valve knew something on February 28th this is a
quote from an article where a guy from valve went to visit Oculus he said the
demo stuck me in a simple room whose walls were textured with financial data
for Facebook from some website an odd Choice yeah there's a little Red Cube
bouncing around the room and the desire to avoid it was extremely strong a
dodgeball SL laser field game immediately popped into my mind but as I
mentioned before a tether really hurts this type of idea the part that I really
paid attention to when reading this and this was actually brought to my attention I didn't notice this was the
the financial data for Facebook from some website just being plastered all
over the walls on February 28th it's interesting in combination with him
saying that they were already sold out by raising venture capital and then
having that just kind of randomly leaked out there it's really weird to just do
that anyways um these are all the like random
crap that I found over the last little while uh another tell he's a little into
this hey I didn't really sleep much this week another thing that happened was uh
if if you go to the corporate Reddit attack or framing link have there um was
was weird ditto posts all over
technology and gaming this was again this is not a screenshot by me this is
just something I found that someone else brought up um but you don't really know
what angle to go with this because why
we should explain what this is okay okay just so in case you guys so basically
defending the deal like right after it happened there were these what appear to
be shill accounts popping up on Reddit posting like copy paste responses or
very similar responses to people hating on it okay kind of all over the place
and a lot of times they very new accounts and stuff like that but it's
that doesn't really make a lot of sense for the direction and angle that um
anyone at Oculus was taking or anyone at Facebook was taking to be completely
honest so we don't know whether or not this was it could have just as easily
been someone trying to frame them destroy um any sort of positive
sentiment that might have existed by pretending to be someone trying to
defend what was going on in the most obvious horrible guerilla marketing way
so this is interesting we don't know
what side of the field it even plays on or did a whole bunch of people just happen to decide to copy and paste each
other for karma that might have been it um so who knows not sure looks fishy
don't know which side of it it's on it's just something interesting that we
noticed um then things started popping
up this is again going through somewhat of a timeline um then started things
things started popping up of basically every Kickstarter I've ever heard of um
especially the ones that I've been a part of because I've now seen updates by a few of them being like whoa whoa whoa
we're not selling to Facebook even like some super random stuff that has nothing
to do with anything being like whoa guys it's cool so people were begging Chris
Roberts not to sell the Facebook which I found hilarious that was the main one I
wanted to show because we're we're fairly into into Star Citizen so I
wanted to bring that one up but there's been stuff for tons of different kickstarters not just Star Citizen
there's even I forgot to put it in here there's even a Kickstarter running right now that has a stretch goal of $2
billion that's like we'll try to buy Oculus from Facebook which is hilarious
um someone was joking saying that there should be a$2 billion do stretch goal
for cig saying that um it's preventing
Facebook from buying cig a lot of people were joking but there was actually some
legitimate fear in there and has started an interesting question on uh
kickstarters for technology a lot of people feel like they're heavily
invested in something when they Kickstart it and feel like they should
they're kind of a part of the company but you're not yeah you're donating and
then you're getting something back for donating but you're not getting a part of the company back for donating and
while it feels like that and the kick the the culture around Kickstarter is
really heavily around like community community and you're a part of this and
this is this is you you made this happen blah blah blah blah blah
really you might have made it happen but it doesn't matter you're not actually a
part of that company you're not an investor and if you look at the kickstarter they promised you a dev kit
one Shi you a dev kit one or whatever other tier you were on or whatever tier
you were on so any obligation that Oculus had to you is over and no matter
how depressing that seems because honestly when I Kickstart a lot of things I'm kickstarting it not
necessarily just because of what I get back from what I'm donating at a lot of
games especially month or two after the release for a lot
of these indie games are way cheaper than my Kickstarter price I'm kickstarting them because I want it to
happen yeah um but that doesn't mean that I have an investment in the company
so then I mean maybe you're maybe you're happy about the Facebook thing because
now it's going to happen even more and better supposedly I don't think there's
too many of those think but that's that's possible um another fairly
noteworthy rant to bring up this was a one that was fairly early on this was on
uh Reddit again a lot of this happened on Reddit um people just pointing out
that holy crap John karmac is a Facebook employee now
um go figure hey it's it's just weird to
think about like I don't even know what to say like hurts my brain it's just like wait what what anyways but he's not
he is but he's not like he's he's working for Oculus I don't know whatever
um people posting Facebook is an advertising company they sell data so
that they're paying customers the advertisers can Target their marketing
um and it wouldn't surprise it wouldn't surprise anyone if in a couple years you
won't be able to use it without supplying dat to Facebook wittingly or
not eye tracking interest this part is me eye tracking what you're interested
in and it's really easy to know if you're paying attention or looking at something when it's strapped to your
face can you imagine how effectively you
can sell ad Impressions or like how much
more effectively uh graphic designers
could design their ads to make it so that you look at them and all the kind
of subconscious crap that goes on that people don't even think about I mean
when you go shopping at a store you ever notice there's like a double door in
like every store that is a psychological
thing there's there's this there's this buffer zone between yeah it's called the
decompression Zone not shopping and shopping that they have created very
intentionally you know what's funny is when I was a kid I always thought that
it was like to keep the heat in or out I
think that's what they say yeah but it's it's known to be a decompression
something there's other things too A lot of the tile in the middle of malls is shiny and then the tile in the stores is
not shiny where it's carpet or like that it often it's really Shin faster and
settle somewhere it's usually shiny in the middle of the mall and not super shiny in a store blah blah blah blah
blah it's very Bland smells that that they that they'll run through stores I
mean all these things are designed to make you buy without even knowing why
you're doing it and uh eye tracking is
going to be a real good way to make that even more effective um that being said
it is there's there's a bunch of posts in Palmer's personal Reddit account that
talks about this type of stuff and we'll be getting into that later again we're
going through in Fairly linear lines keep going keep going they know we're
getting into that later it's okay um so the community is mad about the change of
pace this was a fairly interesting one because messages that came from karmac
the CTO of oculus VR and a a very
important dude saying stuff like for a certain segment of the population the
hacker slaker crowd this is going to be awesomely cool to work with that was the
message before the message now is this
being from um Brendan IRB I don't
actually know how to pronounce his last name that's really embarrassing the CEO of oculus VR saying We Believe virtual
reality will be heavily defined by social experiences that connect people
in magical new ways that's very
different than the heartbeat kind of
idea that was oculus before which is like yeah hackers and makers it's more
social experience now which is interesting but then at the same use the
word magical thank you Mr jobs yeah yeah
this is a magical device at the same time though this is
two different people and if you talk to karmac he's still very gaming focused
and if you talk to Palmer he's still very gaming focused this is just quotes
that I got from a picture that someone posted on Reddit um Brendan while this
this is a specific quote again this is this is grabbing snippet quotes grabbing
snippet quotes isn't always applicable if you go talk to Brendan at if you go
watch some of his videos that he's been in at conventions a lot of time he talks
about gaming and some of them have been very recent they're still talking about
gaming he's just talking about an idea that they haven't really expressed as
much necessarily in the past so I'm not sure how much that matters but a lot of
people were at up in arms about that something that was also really interesting was the are you done with VR
straw pole that came up which ended up being huge um I'm done with oculus VR
dead to me was one of the options that had 11 , 32 votes when I last looked at
it and was accounting for 50% of the votes um I I will withhold judgment for
now and see how this plays out only had
9,947 votes compared to the previous 11,000 and something ringing in at 45%
of the vote okay that's helpful um and then the the the part the people saying
they're okay with Facebook was only 4% which is
like nothing um but then a lot of this
was need reaction this this this straw pull was created extremely early and I
wish we could get every single person that responded on that to respond again
and see how it would change I don't necessarily think the number of people
saying that Facebook is okay would necessarily increase because no matter
how you look at that look at this I don't think a ton of people are super stoked about the idea of Facebook um but
I think more people would probably side with the I will withhold judgment for
for now and see how this plays out because if you have to put your trust in anyone Palmer carac and all those
guys those are some people to put your trust in people have been describing
karmac as the canary in the coal mine and I don't really know any better way
of actually saying that because that's a really good way of if he had a problem
with it then we'd know about it and I I guess at least we'll have a
heads up when stuff's about to hit the fan because when karmac leaves
Oculus then we'll there's your heads up there's your heads up and a Brash
joining like that's another person to pay attention to and follow and honestly
if anyone can do it it's these guys so I hope they make it
because I don't know it's scary um then
then things start happening like I actually hold on a second I actually created a new straw pole so we'd love
for you guys to vote on this one I'm just going to post it in the chat a few
times here so that you guys can see it only click the ones that are posted by
me because it's sort of a thing for people to just click make their own
straw Poes anyway so uh go ahead check that out we'd love to hear what you guys
think and see how it compares to the original results okay go ahead Luke all right so
next we're moving into we're still in kind of negative stuff so Oculus CTO
bailes on GTC due to illness now if you try to go to this thread it's not going
to work oh okay it was pulled down by NVIDIA's Blog NVIDIA's blog was amazing
it's too bad we didn't uh did you like cop I don't have a screenshot or
anything I I should have I should have thought about that but there's a new
post on NVIDIA's blog now actually where if you can find that I should put that
in here I was rushing near the end there's a new post saying like holy crap
he's awesome because he ended up showing up ended up being a very last minute
kind of ditch effort kind of thing they got about 100 people there just like at
the very last possible second and he ended up talking to them and it
apparently it was great yeah here we go speaks at GTC yeah very very different
than their previous article which was like begs off attendance blah blah blah
blah blah like super not stoked they're they're happy with him now but again
this is this was playing into the negative feeling of the whole internet where everyone's like oh he's not ill
he's just trying to dodge our questions honestly I don't even necessarily think
that was a thing he was very possibly ill because of how much crap has been
being thrown at them because like
they've been busy it's the yeah I don't know I I doubt any of that team has
really slept much over not that you'd be able to relate to becoming ill because
no sleep and lots of work yeah yeah I think people can probably remember that
um although I bet you R Max fine cuz as far as I can tell he just like doesn't
care and is still programming which is kind of awesome um but the rest of the
team es especially Palmer you once we get to his Reddit posts he can oh man I
feel bad for Palmer anyways moving on to
Notch's post so Notch posted on Twitter some people saw the retweet from me um
essentially saying that he has no intention of now creating a Minecraft
mod which he's planning on making an official one because he finds Facebook
to be creepy uh you heard our quotes earlier from when he was on the Reddit
thread he's been very vocal in this um so a direct quote is I did not chip in
10 grand to seed a first investment round to build value for face for a
Facebook acquisition another quote is I definitely want to be a part of VR but I
will not work with Facebook their motives are too unclear and shifting and
they haven't historically been a stable platform there's nothing about their
history that makes me trust them and that makes them very seem very creepy to
me um now before we get into those comments I want to jump forward and to
the scumbag Oculus meme kickstarters Edition um which is just kind of
interesting and plays into what Notch was talking about we'll talk about that in a second um and Palmer's post when
Palmer bounces back at Notch for posting that by saying things like he had the
rift for over a year and hasn't even tried The Unofficial Minecraft mod um at
least at the point of Palmer posting that which is I'm assuming based on
information from when Notch visited that office before the Facebook acquisition
and he said it's easy to cancel a project that was never even really started anyways he has Merit in both of
those points
but okay I don't think a lot of comments that people have been pointing at him um
coming from people like cliff balinsky and coming from uh even Palmer himself
and a whole bunch of people on the internet and the guy that posted this Facebook post originally are necessarily
that accurate they're calling him childish and feeble and all this other
kind of stuff um whether or not it's because he
just doesn't feel like doing the project and he wants to cancel it that doesn't seem very true necessarily especially
when he's saying I definitely want to be a part of VR I will but I will not work
with Facebook he does kind of seem like he wants to be a part of VR I'm going to
have to take what he's saying on face value he seems pretty legit in the past
um it does seem like he's doing it on moral reasons he doesn't like Facebook
so he's canceling the project that doesn't make him childish just because
he doesn't like something he doesn't want to work with someone I I don't
necessarily agree with that but then again that's up to you to make make that
decision being childish might be taking it public you could always just cancel
the project and not say that's very true and of something jumping on the Reddit
post and jumping on Twitter and making it a huge deal that could have been a
childish action but I don't think necessarily like that like the whole Fez
2 cancellation thing oh yeah would that have been less drama if he' just canel
it instead of saying I'm canceling it because you guys are so mean to me yeah
maybe and that's that's a very good point I don't think the fact that he
canceled it is childish maybe the way he went about it you can decide whatever
the heck you want about that that's just something to throw there so here's our
new straw pole so uh there's been a major shift the major shift in the uh in
the perception here so we had 300 votes
for Oculus is dead to me and a full 65%
actually okay so 76% of you are either okay or withholding judgment which
interesting a massive shift and good timing because now we get into the shift
um um where Reddit um our own Community
Twitter a lot of these different communities the the the voice that was
most heard is now changing to stop
attacking them let's wait and see all that kind of stuff instead of like
direct and sometimes personal attacks and threats to people like ridiculous
which is not okay um okay moving on so
blah blah blah blah blah the hate the the Hate Now directed at those attacking
Oculus quotes from this are to to jump
to personal attacks in an emotional tantrum Masque way and Abandon Ship
without actually realizing where this deal will go that's that's a pretty good
quote and true to what a lot of people did I got extremely sad I'm sure people
saw my Twitter account um but that was mainly when I was getting stuff from The
New York Times saying that they're going to Rebrand everything and um a lot of
the other information basically saying Oculus is dead that was depressing but
once I found other things not nearly as sad um and another quote there saying
say chill and let's wait and see let's all wait and see which I think is yeah
that's what I'm doing at least I'm going to wait and see I'm still very interested no matter what I'm not done
with VR from you know this and a lot of my friends back in high school that I
forced to try it including my girlfriend who didn't care at all but was a good
sport about it um back when I bought Nia
my neural impulse actuator but I don't care I know it's
new ways of interacting with computers this has always been what I've cared about most and I find this incredibly
interesting so whether or not it ends up being ocul I'm still totally in for VR
um Cliff balinsky weighs in this was interesting
um I wasn't as interested as in this as
many other things but it is still fairly interesting because he gained a lot from
this whole situation he was a really big early on investor and something that
people have been attacking Oculus over is why the kickstarter people weren't
allowed to be investors that's like us law that's not Ulus wasn't like yeah no
let's just give them dk1 instead of uh shares in the company that's just how
things work they can't change how the United States works so you can attack
them over different things but that's not really going to it doesn't matter
that no U but he was he's an accredited
investor or whatever the heck so he's able to do this kind of stuff um and he
brings up some interesting points and some stuff that's scary and I hope never
happens so he brings up the fact that Facebook has a multi-million user reach
and as people notice with Mark's promoted post he probably didn't pay for
that he can probably push advertisements in a lot of different places getting a
lot of different eyes on board without paying for it and quotes coming in
earlier on where we were talking about how Facebook is losing a certain audience and saying like oh but that's
the audience that's going for Oculus Rift right now yeah okay so they already
have those people they don't necessarily need those people from Facebook what
they can gain from Facebook is the
multibillion user reach of people that don't know what the heck Oculus is y um
they can push that out they can talk to all those people so that's that's good
um he goes on to talk about WhatsApp and Instagram like we've talked earlier
though but I think we share the same opinion which is like dude we haven't
had enough time to see that happen at all at all like come on especially
WhatsApp like are you kidding me and we haven't seen Instagram falter in any way
and so we haven't seen how Facebook will react when one of their Acquisitions is
all of a sudden not looking like a great acquisition anymore do they just slash
the entire work force do they like we've seen Google do um a lot of people are
saying why didn't someone like Google buy it that would have been worse that would have been scary that would have
been really scary because if it doesn't do well for a second Google's just be
like LOL okay bye and then they own all the patents and they'll do something
completely different with it and that might be really cool too
yeah but Google doesn't seem to necessarily care too much about what
they acquire and Google operates on their own in their own Dimension
sometimes like they're and it's both great and terrible sometimes but they're
they're thinking about things 10 years from now 20 years from now and they're
because they just don't really care about making money on it today they
might just let it sit there behind closed doors in development for another
10 years whereas with Facebook they've been pretty clear hey no the Oculus Rift
for gamers is still coming you're going to get the iterative the iterative
hardware that comes on the way to us building our grand vision of it Google
doesn't always do that yeah you you could see they built a self-driving car and just put it on the road yeah and it
was amazing and then they were like okay cool it's like since when if we heard
anything about that it's like obviously safe they've totally proved that it's
safe and then they're like all right in the garage um and that could have easily
happened with this too you we could have seen DK2 come out or not it's Google who
the heck knows and then cv1 consumer version one could have come out in like
2020 or something like L 20 K KP screen
or whatever we have by that point who knows um uh one thing that he brings up
the the like oh now we're just going to get Farmville VR and stuff like that
like I I touched on that earlier when I was talking about the negative points I
said oh my God Farmville 3D and Facebook popup updates
everywhere I really really don't think so no I think it'll be more subtle I
mean I think what they'll do is they'll offer game developers options like this
is the way this is the way I could see it working maybe not step one and not
step three where it's like family reunions are all done through Oculus VR
but like a step one and a half or two where think about in-game advertising
the way it's done now where there might be um like all of the uh oh crap I
forget what game did this was it Battlefield 4 where they had like um
Coke vending machines and you couldn't knock them over they were like the one
thing in the game that wasn't destructible and like I don't remember I
don't remember what game it was but it was like vending machines but so in-game
product placement Facebook could offer
Oculus developers so Developers for VR games the option to build advertising
into their game as a way to monetize their platform they could throw seed
funding at them if they're willing to deliver that and this could be a way for
us to if we're willing to put up with a little bit more advertising which I
think people have proven time and time again that they'll protest about it but
much like taxes they'll just suck it up every time um and they won't vote with
their wallets until maybe we get to a Breaking Point and but we haven't seen
it yet I'm I'm interested to see what ad
block does about this I'm interested to see what Adblock does about this but
that could be a great way for us to get more VR content yeah at least for now
and support Developers for maybe freeo play that isn't necessarily
microtransaction driven um I'm going to actually tangent for just a moment here
and talk about Bravely Default the game that I just recently started playing
would I have rather seen some like well
integrated product placement in Bravely Default versus what they've done with
sleep points so sleep Point um turn based combat just like a Final Fantasy
game basically except you can okay I'm not going to get into the combat mechanics so sleep points allow you to
interrupt turn-based com and act at any time so you can earn them either by
leaving the game on with your DS in sleep mode plugged in presumably so it
doesn't drain the battery uh for eight hours per sleep point or you can buy
them and so basically you can buy the ability to like go until the enemy dies
kind of thing that to me is a lot more obnoxious than something like a little
bit of Tastefully applied in game advertising so like yeah anyway okay go
ahead go ahead uh and he has a point in however they end up doing it who knows
personally I would like the I don't mind product placement to be completely
honest ad blockus com from some twitch
chat and like okay another thing that Cliff blinsky brings up is the
possibility of uh some sort of proprietary system which everyone
freaked out about and he's hopefully completely wrong in super off Bas
because that's super dumb yeah um but another thing that came out of that was
the possibility of like maybe when you boot up your computer you load like the
Oculus store or something and the Oculus store is kind of like steam but has VR
capable games you can buy other stuff like that and there could be other applications that's the idea of this
whole system or even an Oculus store from within Steam much like the way
we've seen NVIDIA integrate their Tegra Zone store within Android that allows
you to shop the Google Play Store but a tailored version of the Google Play
Store I'd be totally okay with that and it makes sense because steam's actually been fairly or valve has been fairly
recently talking about allowing different companies to have their own
stores on Steam so that makes an incredible your cynical your cynical
take on that was maybe they just don't feel like managing it anymore yeah maybe
they're just like ah they can just do whatever the heck they want we'll still
scrape all the money and it's fine whether or not you think that's positive
or negative uh that could allow something like Oculus to have their own
compatibility store essentially there and then maybe you can if if that's a
thing maybe you could unofficially inject OC what what was it called ad
blocus Oculus yeah maybe you could integrate that in some way um I don't
know the cliff binsky thing is really long and I preferred other sorts of
information all right so Mark Zuckerberg's actual post on Facebook I
think clarified a lot um so I'm just
going to go ahead and post this now this this is interesting because a massive
amount of people as far as I can tell don't really trust Mark Zuckerberg even
if they like Facebook really so
this despite being kind of positive for
the people that may have been negative in the beginning a lot of people have
been pretty sketchy about but it's interesting nonetheless and hopefully we
can hold them to the things that he says in here so here we go yeah hopefully
there's some accountability so he he starts off by
saying um immersive gaming will be first and Oculus already has big plans here
that won't be changing and we hope to accelerate I don't even care what side
of the fence you're on that's good um like this has happened we can't reverse
it now we have to take the good that we can um and that is good we're focusing
on helping Oculus build out their product and develop Partnerships
supporting more games to support more games so again we're going to have to
move a little faster here at 6 oh God I didn't realize this show was essentially
over already um Oculus will continue
operating independently within Facebook um and they want to achieve that blah
blah blah whether or not that ends up becoming a thing or not although right now it does seem like it's going to be
and I'm sure carac would have a ton to say if that doesn't stay being a thing
so we'll see how that goes um I'm trying to skip over things uh there's just some
he he talks about potential uses I'm not going to directly quote this because ites I already talked about it earlier
yeah okay yeah okay so let's move on just all the
potential uses yeah yeah we talked about things like using it as a way to connect
with other people and yeah but he also brings up like medical applications Stu
court side seats at games something that I've talked about that I'm really
excited about with VR already y um okay
so so then we move on to Palmer's Reddit and this is incredibly long and already
chopped down a lot despite the fact that we're going to be skipping a bunch of things so I actually recommend going to
his user account and checking his message log because it is very interesting and a really easy way to
track the whole conversation um he's been asked a whole bunch of questions so
these are some answers you will not need a Facebook account to use or develop for
the rift that will not be a thing he has said that so far of course he's no
longer running the entire company so it's kind of a problem but I'm sure
there you would know anyways um people have been this is a little bit
messed up anyways uh people asked if I
ever see Facebook branding on anything that's not optional I'm done he says
that's not really reasonable in a literal sense but he understands what
the guy is trying to say um I think that comment spouted from the Facebook
branding on the Oculus idea not necessarily yeah not necessarily like a
Facebook style the Oculus App Store deal something like that I'm not I'm not sure
that was a little bit Shady anyways um
if I see any ads on anything that I've already paid for I'm done Palmer says
which makes a ton of sense that's a developer decision they're not going to be injecting things necessarily it's not
their decision if someone wants to sell a game with built-in ads they will have
to deal with the natural consequences of you not buying it he didn't say that you're not buying it part but yeah um
just promise me we there will be no specific Facebook tie-ins um he says I
promise which is good um he he talks
about it more it's saying would would you rather me sell to someone like Microsoft or apple so they can tear the
company apart use the pieces that we have to build their own vision of virtual reality we talked about this
earlier um one that fits their current strategy they have not a chance so you
can tell that he believed in this acquisition at least some amount um the
key points that he brings up too is we can make custom Hardware we brought this
up earlier y um we can afford to hire everyone we need we brought this up
earlier we're going to talk about this l a little bit further on and we can make
huge investments in content so the only thing that I've really seen the do in a
big form was EVR Eve virtual reality
Valkyrie which looks amazing so hopefully there's more of that kind of stuff in the
future um another thing that you should go read into is Carmax tweets again I
guess I'm not going to jump into these too in depth because this show could probably go on for four hours um and
I'll just talk about it more in the Afterparty so be sure to show up for that
um I like karmac Carm is a really good guy and one of the things that he posts
up on there let me go to his Twitter real fast um
was I would expect Facebook not to exert any o overt control over Oculus unless
Oculus fumbles badly a few times at which point they should that kind of
makes sense um and he asks people what are the hazards what should be what
should be done to guard against them and what are the tests of failure blog and
I'll read so if you guys have opinions talk about it and they will pay
attention that's very cool anyways jumping forward off of Carmax tweets we
talked about some of those early on as well Oculus hires Michael AB crash this
is huge and this I think honestly there
there was already a Twist towards the positive yeah and then this happened and
then everyone was just like so this was today yeah like huge positive outcome
when this happened uh some people freaking out saying that now valve is
ruined but I don't think valve ever intended on releasing anything anyways
yeah so I think it makes a lot more sense that he's now working for Oculus
um so he was working on VR at valve for context yeah uh AB Brash and and carac
worked together in the past on some really big things and they're both very
happy that they're coming back together which is really cool um they met in 1994
1995 and worked on stuff like Quake which is kind of a huge deal I'm going
to skip over a bunch of this again yeah let's just go ahead and post the link here you guys should definitely check
this out yeah it's the thread on on Oculus is actual website so now people
have been talking about canceling their pre-orders and I don't know what I'm
going to do uh next topic are Riot um
starting in 1 minute you guys got another minute to do that because of the
delay uh any more of that you will be perab banned and we are not lifting
bands anymore so give it a rest um do
you want to cancel your terms or sorry do you want to cancel your order there's
terms that we can post that'll be in this doc um are you sure you want to
cancel though there's been a lot of people trying to cancel and then trying
to stop their cancel so they can keep their spot in line you can cancel your
pre-order before it's shipped so you have a while still so don't worry about
canc immediately if you're thinking about it you can kind of sit on that
topic or just go and cancel it although careful because it's an email
cancellation it's not like an automated one so it might take a little while for them to reply just hold in there yeah
and you'll lose your spot in line and you'll lose your spot in line um something interesting to bring up is the
photo of their like Facebook kind of thing that they had at their old HQ
which if you zoom in really closely says warning Facebook may cause loss of time
poor work ethic obesity social disorders and possible interference of Destiny use
it your own risk and then the Facebook thumbs up which is hilarious goes to
show you just what their attitude was towards Facebook the website if not
Facebook the company yeah um oatmeal made a joke we're basically at the end
now oatmeal made a joke about this apparently a year ago which I'd never seen until earlier today which was
talking about um strapping Facebook to your face essentially if you actually go
look at it there you go there we go um so he talks about essentially like how
the world around me is so very very loud it begs me to slow down to sit down
introducing Facebook for your face I
like it and then saying eventually we'll just
like lay down and die which is kind of hilarious and then yeah oal I'll talk
about it more in the after party but that's essentially what happened you're going to talk about this more on the
Afterparty I just skipped like probably half so when the news first came out we
uh we knee-jerk reaction we created this
shirt and it wasn't ready because District I think it kind of applies kind
of slow sometimes so here's the shirt um
so it just says it's it's an Oculus eye so it's actually it's not even the
Oculus eye it's just somewhat similar because we don't want any trademark
infringing things on a shirt like this uh so it just says I dislike Facebook in
the context of the stuff that's happened over the last couple of days so District Lines took a while for this shirt to
come out and so by now so much positive
news has come out around it that I think neither Luke nor I are feeling quite as
down about the whole thing it's not being completely re anyways yeah so now
like like there were concerns like they were going to reand Rebrand it based on
that New York Times article which still hasn't been pulled down no which is
interesting to me anyway um so if you
still feel strongly about the whole thing if we sell like 50 of them then
I'll still print it otherwise I'm going to cancel the order and I think that cost me like 15% restocking fee but I I
it doesn't feel as relevant to me anym things have literally changed a lot has
changed since we created this shirt another way to look at it I'm probably
still interested in kind of getting one is I still like Oculus and I still don't
like Facebook I disliked Facebook before this whole situation and I still dislike
Facebook that doesn't change so if you guys want it order it if you don't we're
not making it so there you go doesn't matter okay and now everyone can Rejoice
because the Oculus topic is over and we're moving into our sponsors for today
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good opportunity to promote this there will be a buildoff between the one and
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well we happen to be streaming there right now although I don't have to
endorse Twitch TV in any way maybe I'll just say negative things about them just
in case JN is watching right now twitch sucks John um anyway so twitch will be
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something anyways no maybe nothing will happen maybe I'm just trying to get them
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interesting thing going on right now they want you to design their new slogan
so I'm just going to see if I can actually find it dang it I should have
had the link ready before but Hotspot Shield is allowing you to come up with a
new slogan and what they're doing is they are giving away a bunch of elite
accounts as a way to promote the contest
so uh Hotspot Shield is the easy way to
set up a VPN their Elite service in particular is the one we recommend the
complaints that I've seen about Hotspot Shield on the form or wherever else tend
to be about their ad supported free version and let's just do a brief
rundown of how a VPN works and why you
have to pay for one because it's
basically triplicating the amount of data being transferred back and forth if
you go to a website instead of Hotspot
Shield or instead of you just communicating directly to the website
well I guess duplicating sorry okay so instead of you just communicating
directly to the website there is an intermediary Hub and that's going to be
Hotspot Shield server so you send data to them they forward it to the website
and then it goes that way back again so sorry doubling doubling the data being
sent back and forth so that means there is an actual bandwidth cost associated
with a VPN that's all there is to it a VPN that is free will be ad supported or
supported in some other way so unless you're paying for it you are going to be
stuck with some kind of intrusive ad service so that's why I recommend using
offer code Linus to get 20% off Elite it's super easy to set up and vpns allow
you to um hide who you are and where you're from from the websites that
you're visiting because all the traffic looks to them as if it's coming directly
from Hotspot Shield it allows you to circumvent geographical restrictions in
this way so if you wanted to watch you know us content and you're in the UK or
UK content you're in the US all you do is configure Hotspot Shield to tell the
website where you're from somewhere other than where you're actually from you can go ahead and get around things
like firewalls or censorship so that's one of the things that's really good for
and I have finally located the link for the redesign the slogan contest so you
can go ahead and it's actually on Facebook LOL someone is also telling me
that the contest is apparently over no I think it runs till April 4th all right
something like that well then I guess they're wrong I don't know I just saw
someone in the twitch chat be like the contest is over by the way yeah I don't
know anyway okay well they told me April 4th I guess if it's over tell you what
if it's over guys let me know and I'll arrange some giveaway Elite codes anyway
and we'll do like a giveaway on the form or something cool so there you go my
misunderstanding could turn into free Hotspot Shield accounts we actually did
a giveaway a little while ago uh so guys try try out the uh the trial you don't
actually have to start paying for it right away you can just get a trial at
bit. lehs share and uh if you like it
then let us know and we'll we'll see if we can arrange for something to happen
even if I might have totally screwed that up all right so moving into our
next topic here that is not
Oculus Titan z d the card that everyone
was super unhappy wasn't a game you know what I don't even okay Titan Z
is moderately interesting and people are
upset that NVIDIA is branding this as a gaming card but be okay yes it says
GeForce yes it has Titan branding the
most recent of which to contain that branding was marketed sort of as a
gaming card but this is not a gaming
card Jensen came right out and said said this is for people who want a
supercomputer next to their desk it is
it it it doesn't make any sense for a gamer to buy a Titans Z he didn't say
that part because you know I think his statement was more along the lines of I
mean if Gamers want to buy it then great uh then then great but I mean Titan's
been selling like hot cakes but it's mostly intended for Cuda developers the
only advantage of Titan over something
like GTX 780 Ti so we're talking about the single GPU versions is the double
precision performance of Titan which is only useful in a production environment
a coding environment double Precision doesn't mean your games run more
accurately no game takes advantage obviously aim better yeah you'll aim
better so you combine that with Aimbot with and a sniper button and like U
Flames painted on the side of your PC why not speed holes speed holes so Titan
Z is not a gaming card why is it $3,000
it's $3,000 because the kind of work it is intended to be used for would allow a
budget of $3,000 to spend on a compute card for it that's why it has 12 gigs of
RAM so 6 gigs per GPU and it's intended to allow a higher density of gk10
Graphics cores to be installed in a single machine in a desktop type work
environment it is not a gaming card but
because it happens to be GeForce and it will use GeForce drivers you can game on
it if you want a quad SLI gk10
experience you'll just have to pay more
but that same experience would be available to you if you bought four GTX
780 Ti for a grand total of
$2,800 and that would cost you six grand
in Titan Z's and you will get the same performance unless you really need the
six gigs of frame buffer per card in which case you could still buy four
Titans and water cool them and spend like $1,500 less anyway
it's not a practical solution it wasn't intended to be the internet needs to get
over it um oh there's a couple things so for
context uh oh wait so yeah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah old Titan was
something I think Anon Tech is estimating that it'll be clocked at around 700 MHz based on the uh based on
the Giga flops or Tera flops or whatever
that NVIDIA is quoting uh so that would be well below the performance of the
Titan black So Not only would that other solution be cheaper it would also
perform better considerably faster this is something that really just kind of I
part of me is outraged and part of me is like yeah this makes sense ASUS has a
gaming branded b85 board so this is an Intel
LGA 1150 board it supports you know four
dim slots supports dual graphics cards
it's got better onboard sound and like like it's got like a gamer
friendly color scheme it's not cold but
it is not overclockable the b85 chipset
does not support overclocking at
all so I would love to see you guys hit us
up with a straw pole here this current audience is going to like this too much
I don't think they will either but I have I have okay our discussion though
while we wait for the straw pole results is that there's probably a large amount
of people that aren't going to overclock and want to buy a gaming board is your
is your CPU overclocked actually technically right now it is okay own
Well mine's not I know and mine wasn't not that long
ago it doesn't really matter right now
my graphics card is definitely overclock when Star Citizen
launches I will overclock the snot out of my CPU my graphics card is
overclocked like crazy but I don't like
yeah no not my CPU not so there you go
that that's that's the that's the cold hard truth is not every gamer is an
overclocker and Enthusiast and for so long overclocking boards were lumped in
with gaming boards because the Assumption was that Gamers were Tweakers
but most of the hardcore Gamers I know are not that into the hardware well my
re hardore Gamers not like my reason is
I have a profile locked in for my CPU that I have multiple profiles actually I
have my like my stock um my like low
overclock medium overclock and like ridiculous overclock and I have it
currently on like a medium which is not really pushing it that hard right
because my ridiculous one is insane but when stares and starts really pushing my
computer I'll just be like click l but then the lifespan of that CPU is going
to go because I'm pushing it way too hard
and I know that all right NVIDIA looks beyond Maxwell This was posted on
Hardware conu so actually for a while they were saying volto was coming after
Maxwell but now they have removed Volta from the road map and replaced it
instead with Pascal which is going to deliver unified memory 3D memory and NV
link and I'm actually not sure which is the most interesting out of all of these
things so 3D memory has been talked about for a while it's going to be
instrumental with Pascal NVIDIA claims they will be able to provide several
times greater bandwidth which is going to be incredibly important for
Resolutions Beyond 1080p they're saying more than twice the memory capacity and
quadruple the Energy Efficiency and when you look how energy efficient uh Maxwell
is already we could be looking at some
seriously powerful Hardware in very
small spaces powering like cloud gaming experiences within the home or whatever
else the case may be talked about that a lot last week um the other big one to me
is Envy link so here's a little picture that's also courtesy of Hardware conu
thank you hardware conu for posting this I love you Mike um showing what Envy
link will be exactly so we're not necessarily expecting Envy link to
replace oh you guys can't see that part of the graphic I'm sorry there we go
really okay well whatever my mouse my mouse is here so there's a little PCIe
link labeled here so it's not going to replace PCI Express or anything but Envy
link will be an efficient way for the gpus to communicate with each other so
it would replace the current SLI Bridge
much like AMD has done with XDM a on
their R9 series cards on the very very
highend the r9290 series cards but um
this will augment PCI Express allowing the gpus to communicate with each other
and again not just for Crossfire or SLI type dual Graphics functionality but
instead for compute functionality giving
them a much more efficient means of working together we there uh NVIDIA is
saying this is going to be twice as efficient as PCI Express 3.0 and they
call it feeding the app appetite for Big
Data so um you know how much better
could graphics cards work together in terms of frame pacing or whatever else
if they had super high-s speeed interconnects if they had you know
double the memory bandwidth or several times the memory bandwidth to work with
well Al also hopefully this will help with just chopping and general
crappiness that comes along with multiple GPU setups yep so that maybe we
will all kind of embrace it more and that's probably what they're going for
so hope way better all right so more bad news for Bitcoin um vercure X has just
gone insolvent that was about four days ago so they're basically the funny thing
about what they're doing is at least they're being a bit more communicative about it than Mount goau was but they're
saying okay well we can either just shut down now because we're like out of
Bitcoins or we can try to continue
operating and then like pay that back slowly but if we just shut down now
we're just not going to be able to pay it back at all and then one of the
advantages of Bitcoins up till now is that taxation on them hasn't been very
clear well new IRS rules in the US um
anyway are now considering Bitcoin
property so now it's property so you will pay taxes on it in much the same
way as you would another investment or Capital assets such as well property so
land or anything else like that so a payment made using virtual currency will
be subject to information reporting to the same extent as any other payment
made in property I don't know if you guys know this but technically if here
in Canada anyway if you make a deal with someone that is a barter agreement so if
I say uh you know I I'll fix your computer to a plumber and the plumber
says okay I'll fix your sync we should both be reporting and paying taxes
correctly on the face value of what
those Services would have been the laws are very clear about this so
cryptocurrency has existed on this sort of we don't know what to do with this
Cloud for a little while that's not the thing that's going to be happening
anymore all right which isn't to say that it will necessarily be enforced
everywhere it just means that you'll be legally responsible for it not having
been enforced portals coming to Shield which there's not a whole lot else to
really say about this other than it's happening now NVIDIA's been saying hey
guys we're going to deliver last gen console grade experiences on handheld
they've been saying that for well it's happening now cuz portal that's a last
gen console game and valve will be porting it to Android um so their their
blog post is actually pretty darn interesting you guys should have a read
of it later on I'm just going to post this in the twitch chat boom you guys
should check that out very very cool um not that relevant to me or really to
anyone in general who owns a shield
necessarily because you already have game stream which is definitely a good
enough experience to play portal with I played through the entirety of Portal 2
on NVIDIA Shield using gam stream I didn't touch my PC for the entire game
actually quite enjoyed it I just finished it did I tell you that yeah yeah really good obviously nothing
compares to portal one um it's good though like I couldn't have
really asked for much more nope good game and then the Steam Workshop makes
it so epic cuz you can just download custom maps I don't even really enjoy
solving portal puzzles that much you just like the story line I just really
enjoyed the the atmosphere and the humor and the story um GLaDOS is a fantastic
character U with or without Caroline so
yeah really really enjoyed it no one wants to hear about ancient games though
more about Shield so here are the release notes of their upcoming firmware
update or well oh what the hell is this oh I guess this is old release notes
where you'll can stay tuned in a few days there are going to be some new
Fantastic release notes because shield in the short nine or 10 months or
however long it's been on the market has evolved significantly from kind of a
Nifty Android gaming device that had this weird like PC streaming feature in
beta that actually worked pretty well at launch but is better now to something
that is a very compelling gaming platform compared to pretty much
anything else that you could buy from a handheld gaming perspective so now on
top of game stream on top of um The teger Zone store where you can buy teger
optimize games game stream Works outside of the house NVIDIA has said on the
conference call that we were no you weren't on it I was on it you had to
talk to New Egg TV H anyway I was
talking to NVIDIA while he was talking to New Egg TV that's just even I'm sorry but like
that just doesn't even sound cool um so
NVIDIA is saying you're going to need a strong mobile network connection or
whether you're on someone else's Wi-Fi like if I'm at the office here and I
want to game stream something at my house you're going to need 5 megabit up
and down in both places for optimal communication between the devices or I
mean they've even said you could do it on you know 4G LTE um but you're going
to need 5 megabit up and down on both ends for a good experience and the way
it works is pretty similar to grid beta have you tried that yet grid beta yeah
no I asked you last week it's on your Shield already oh no I wiped it before I
gave it to you okay check it out try grid beta I also have to install that
access point though so streaming from NVIDIA's servers down in California to
here works like you can play Street Fighter um so anyway game stream Works
outside of the house uh wake on land and remote login support is coming so this
is a great feature for people who don't want to leave their PC on all the time
or like the number of times I've been in bed and I'm like yeah I want to fire oh
my computer's asleep get up and go turn it on and Vlog in and go back to bed and
play my game it's like well if I wanted to get up I would have gone and played on my computer so that's being addressed
could you install mobile team viewer on your yeah I could but just like La um
and that wouldn't help with wake on land all right no notebook GPU support is
coming so you'll be able to game stream from your GeForce Kepler based GPU
laptop which is very exciting for folks who have notebooks Bluetooth keyboard
and mouse support is coming in console mode the new teg rone has been
redesigned to help you find compatible games even better although I almost
never touch Android games on it they all kind of suck I mean no offense to
Android games but like compared to PC games that I can play on the thing my
shield almost never leaves my home I just play PC games on it um it's going
to get Android 4.4 Kit Kat uh better FPS
and bit rate controls much like what valve has been adding to inhome
streaming you're going to be able to say Okay I want this bit rate I want this
FPS and you're going to have much more granular control they have a better
Gamepad mapper with a more intuitive UI so you can take Android games if you
play them and then you can remap your buttons to the screen and an even better
way and for a limited time it's only 200
bucks so for a month NVIDIA Shield is $200 and at that price I think it's a
great value I would buy one I'll say that outright I've even just watched
videos on it it's a lot easier to manage especially while you're in bed than your
phone oh yeah we haven't talked about this is it a tablet yeah I use it like a
tablet because I was able to just like kind of prop it up and you've never even
been sold on the whole tablet concept well I'm still not sold on the whole
tablet concept but another thing that I'm really excited for is when Hearthstone gets moved to tablets and
phone phones um so that I can install it on my shield that'll make Shield so much
better cuz Hearthstone I've always been like this is really cool but I want to
be playing something a little bit heavier while I'm at my computer and
this cuz this is just weird whereas if you're like just in bed if I'm just like
chilling but can't sleep yet it's like all right play a card game like hearstone hearst's fun it's just
freaking awesome I'm sitting on my computer I'm just like I love Shi for $200 that's a no-brainer for me um okay
so NVIDIA also talked a lot about directx12
on the call and some of this stuff was uh pretty relevant so I I teased this at
the beginning of the show but uh mantle support is not coming to NVIDIA gpus
near you no matter how open AMD makes the platform um and I don't care
anymore the mantle hype train like I
think it was to me both you know what I'm going to criticize both of them
right now AMD really mismanaged the mantle hype train in much the same way
that NVIDIA has mismanaged the g-sync hype train both really cool Technologies
looked really important talked about way too early no follow through no follow
through yet I mean g-sync monitors are coming but g-sync monitors need to be
ubiquitous every monitor needs to be a g-sync monitor anything branded to
Gamers needs to be a g-sync monitor and pricing needs to be reasonable and we
might see that in a year or two years um and then mantle same thing it needs to
be everywhere or it's not going to make a at launch yes so um NVIDIA made some
really interesting points about directx12 so 79% of the DirectX 11 gpus
according to the steam service survey support direct X12 while 39 no it was
less than that I thought it was like 11% support mantle or something oh no 39% of
the direct X1 gpus no that math isn't right okay these are old notes I'm sorry
uh they updated the numbers but it was like much much lower support mantle and
uh star they're saying star swarm is better with the new 780 Ti DirectX
drivers than the 290x with mantle so there's a new driver coming um are those
really properly compared gpus they are not quite but it depends on the pricing
of 290x and it's enough only in North America is that really happening it's
enough better than 29x that even at MSRP they're about equal in terms of price to
Performance so if directx12 or even DirectX 11 updated driver can be equal
to what AMD is already delivering with mantle in Star swarm I was saying the
other way around though 78 TI is unproportionately expensive is it not no
cuz it performs a little better and it's a little more expensive than a 290x 290x
is 600 780 Ti is around 730 is it really
everywhere uh no this is just based on the lowest prices I could find for both
of them on New Egg yeah but what I'm SRP though that's not jacked up prices yeah
it's all good everything's okay so if they can deliver the same performance
with the new directx11 driver that AMD can deliver with mantle on a admittedly
mantle optimized Benchmark and directx12
is going to improve things even further then um yeah Unreal Engine 4 will
support DirectX 12 and NVIDIA says they've been working on directx12 for 4
years so this isn't a knee-jerk reaction for Microsoft like ignoramuses like us
might have assumed when we went oh I guess they're talking about direct X2 so
early because they're reacting to mantle um nope not so much so there you go guys
whatever ends up happening we're probably all going to be gaming on Windows for the foreseeable future
unless I mean a lot of good news came out about openg last week as well um
or somehow mantle figures things out or I don't
know I think we're probably going to be
pretty much done here let's do two more so our better than Bieber segment this
week we need music that goes along with
this is that the Titanic 2 is coming to
uh actually no it's real it's not it's not it's not a movie it's not a game
this was kind of weird new cruise ship to be built by Centric uh billionaire
Clive Palmer and will be as his has
accurate to the experience of the original Titanic as makes sense or
probably more so so the third class passengers will be in like cramped
horrible rooms before be below water level and the first class passengers
will be in these opulent beautiful mahogany covered rooms just like the
original Titanic um
Palmer did when when asked about unsync
ability hold on say let's just see if I yeah when asked if about unsn ability he
did not go as far as to call it Unsinkable a jinx famously applied to
the original vessel anything will sink if you put a hole in it Palmer joked uh
and they are expected to um to set sail
in 2017 the ship is currently being built in China it's kind of I don't even
know what to think about it if you were going to go on a Cruise no I don't care
at all okay you were going to go on a cruise would you go on a cruise on a
Titanic replica no okay CU I'm going to
pay so little that I'm going to get stuck in that crapshoot underwater level
and I'm going to hate it I'm not going to care about the experience of living
in like essentially a jail cell at the bottom of a boat and I'm just going to
be like this is super dumb is it that different from working here no
all right really important law change in the UK dis media ripping will be
legalized this summer in the UK this was posted on the Forum by methus szo and
the UK government has published a guide informing consumers that an upcoming
revision of copyright law will legalize CD and DVD ripping for personal use
good that wasn't even a slow clap I'm sorry if that came across that was a
like very satisfied that was like this should have happened 100 billion years
ago the original source is torrent freak here um it's coming into effect in the
June July time frame and the law is still very clear that if you make a
backup it is for personal use it is not for you to put on a you know like server
that you rent somewhere and then give everyone in your dog access to that's
not what this law change is intended for you can still sell your physical media
but you will be expected to delete all of the backup copies you're still very
much expected to buy media but you will
be allowed to play it back on any device you
own this is so weird right now like some
of the laws going around about this because like you buy a song and then
it's like the only medium you can play it on iTunes is iTunes or like if you
buy a physical copy of the disc in a lot of places it's like good luck carry on a
CD player with you like they're like no you can't copy it
to MP3 player cuz that's another copy and it's like what the hell is even
happening I'm happy that something like this stepped in I mean people do it
anyway like it's going to happen but you might as well legalize it so we can stop
seeing discussion on it about it anymore and like what's his name's mom going to
jail for 80 billion doar because her son
downloaded five songs like this is just stupid well that's different that's
we're we're not talking py downloaded then copied off of his own thing it
doesn't matter the same thing happens yeah we're tired of this whole thing and
people that didn't actually do anything wrong wrong I mean I I I think there's
still going to be some debate because what about families is my wife allowed to listen to
my song but then like your wife is allowed
to wear your shirt yes but the law says
it's for personal use and they specifically say not to give friends access is my wife my friend are my kids
my friends I don't know I mean valve is
opening up Family Sharing for games which is really cool which is really
cool but that doesn't mean that this law
allows like you know if I if I play this
song at a party is that a public demonstration did I own the rights for
that like all that stuff is still very gray area in terms of ownership but you
know like when because they specifically say if you have like a Nas you can't
give your friends access to it and to to to play back this media yeah but like
my family is going to have access to my NZ yeah so so that's weird all right
well I think that is pretty much it for the show this week um I was planning to
do my first impressions of the HTC1 M8
but I think we've somewhat run out of time I will have a review coming so far
I'm actually pretty impressed with some things that I wasn't expecting to be
impressed by I have 42% battery on it having used it quite heavily normally my
old one runs out during the show because
I'm using navigation to like go run errands on my way back from NCI and I'm
on my phone like constantly at NC because I don't bring out my computer
there to you know read the the document for w show and all that kind of stuff
and I have 42% right now which is pretty impressive the camera is actually quite
strong um in spite of the lack of people
asking for straw pull results but do you even have that link still yeah I
probably do actually I'll I'll grab that sorry about that guys um the camera is
really really strong the build quality feels even more solid I think it's going
to be a bit of a mixed bag in terms of how people perceive it when I went to
the Bell store last night to get a nano okay I guess I'm doing my first impressions of the M8 all right so when
I went to the Bell store last night um I
I said I needed a nano SIM and they were and they were like oh why do you need one of those did you get an iPhone and I
was like no I it's for um this and I pulled out of my pocket like everyone in
the store who worked there was like and like ran over and came and looked at it
and the reaction was very positive there to the metal um seamless backing uh
whereas some people are complaining that it's too slick and almost plasticky
looking like I showed it to someone at NC today who was like oh well why would
they take metal and make it look and feel as much like plastic as they
possibly could overall the construction in the flex of the phone is a very
strong point for it so the metal construction is definitely doing something it's just whether whether or
not you prefer that or not it's up to you it is a little bit bigger which I'm
finding a little bit awkward right now as I go through that transition period
again but it's only about3 in um the
voice quality on it is outstanding I I usually comment on voice
quality in my reviews and I kind of say well it's a phone you put one end to
your face and the other end to someone else's face and there's a wireless link
between them or something um and it sounds all right but this one really
blew me away with how good people sound uh through the hand through the handset
uh blink feed has I I quite like Sense 6.0 so far it's really subtle they
haven't it doesn't feel that different from the stock Google UI really and
maybe part of it is that I started out with sense whereas a lot of people
started out with with other skins but I
I quite like it it doesn't get in my way at all and they've added a few little subtle things like the double tap to
wake up is there now there are some gesture controls that right now are a
little bit hit or miss so for example if you lift it up and then press the volume
button there you go that launched the camera but it doesn't work 100% of the
time uh camera modes again very very cool so you can do things like um here
I'm going to show you guys this because it's actually like quite neat okay so
here I'm going to get Jake the dog behind you there okay and then I'm going
to get up and refocus that so you guys can actually see this so some of
the yeah just going point the mic at myself so some of the camera effects
that you can do are kind of neat so let's just see what
the there we go all right so here's a picture of this guy so we're going to go
ahead and edit the picture so their refocusing feature it's not perfect but
check it out so I could focus on Jake the dog if I felt like it there you go
and it it detects reasonably well what's in the foreground with those dual
cameras in the front that's kind of neat you can only really apply one effect at
a time which I was a little bit disappointed with but you can go and you
can apply like effects to the background obviously they're going to need to add
more than four of them to make this worthwhile as a feature um but I mean we
saw them add more things with their uh with their Gallery viewing features in
the past some of the stuff is just kind of goofy like let's put like blossoms
all over him or something but this is neat so they have kind of like a
parallax effect so you can see a
little it's mostly faked but it still is
like kind of neat you can see the boxes behind them kind of like stuck to his
head there a little bit so so there's that um and then I haven't actually
tried touch-up yet but let's uh let's do
anti-shine yeah that's a face okay done I don't know if that did
anything okay well either way um I think
the biggest challenge whoops we're out of
focus I think the biggest challenge for the M8 is going to be the price because
a year ago or two years ago um $700 for
a flagship phone was like okay that's how much a flagship phone costs whereas
now with the Nexus 5 at $350 for the
equivalent memory model you better be delivering $350 of additional value and
the fact that it's missing wireless charging to me is a huge knock against
it especially because we're still using micro USB we're still stuck with the
standard and the micro USB port recently failed on my one which I've only had for
about a year that's a good point micro USB ports failing strikes again for
lonus because he has like the worst luck ever or he's a terrible person or
whatever whatever your perception of micro USB might be it doesn't work very
well for me and wireless charging is a really good way to not have to wear out
the connectors on your phone unnecessarily the screen is absolutely
beautiful but we've come to expect that from HTC like it's really good even
though the pixels per inch the the actual pixel density is slightly lower
than the old one because of the larger screen 1080p resolution it looks
absolutely beautiful it's extremely Snappy um I guess that's pretty much all
I have to say for now so there you go all right oh I like
their new uh sound scheme sound scheme yeah like the the noises it makes when
you like do things like Samsung's like super stupid
one HTC's was always okay I like the new one even better cool thank you guys very
much for tuning into to the WAN Show this week I hope you enjoyed it as much
as we did w show Oculus Edition coming
to a theater near you if you thought this was great and you need to see more
news on Oculus maybe we can do a full featurelength Oculus W show and we well
I'm I'm going to be talking about in the after because we only actually got
through the like what happened part we
didn't even get to do the our thoughts part so I'm going to be talking about a
bunch of stuff in the Afterparty pretty much the entire Afterparty is going to
be about Ulus so if you want to see anything that's not about Oculus peace
out don't bother show up uh guys here's the straw po result that we uh talked
about earlier I'm interested yeah I'm interested too I actually I posted it in
the thread but I haven't actually clicked it yet there we go I'm assuming
so results all right so not overclocked is
39% look at that hand overclocked greater than 1 GHz
is 22% Auto overclocked is 7 1% so both
of those folks will not really be able to do anything with a B series chipset
hand overclocked greater than 500 mehz hand overclocked and underclocked so 40%
of you won't give any cares about a b85 board that has all the gaming Centric
features without any of the overclocking Centric features even though those two
things have been one and the same for so long fascinating yeah that is actually
really interesting cuz I still want the option so that I can and I still do do
it I just don't necessarily run it all the time I just switch my profile fairly actively I just moved to Ive which I've
never overclocked before so I'm going to I'm going to be playing around with that
once I take my system home oh my personal rig update is done being edited
it's half an hour long did I tell you how long it it's more than half an hour
expected it would be at least it's like 35 minutes and it has the most B- roll
we've ever shot for a video yeah how how what was the data size on that again uh
hey Brandon are you still here yeah uh
how many gigs of b-roll did you shoot of
my system 86 86 gigs of b-roll and that's
in prores 1080P it is going to be our
most beautiful video ever um something to note actually I don't know if you
guys have noticed this but if you go back and look at our last couple of Corsair case reviews we are using a new
recording setup it's still on the Sony fs700 but it's actually using an
external recorder that allows us instead of record Rec in at 1080p to record at
4K to the internal recorder and then down sample to 1080p with a much better
codec that retains a lot more of the image information so we're using prores
now instead of abch HD I personally noticed a big difference in the
sharpness and detail of the footage but I haven't really seen anyone comment
about it so you guys should let me know if you actually noticed my how much did
that stupid thing cost
yeah 2500 bucks apparently nobody even
noticed but but we're not quite at the
limit of its capability there's a firmware update coming that will allow us to record in 4k and then we will
start releasing all of our videos in 4k so yeah yeah that's been coming for so
long though I know I bought a 4K capable camera a year and a half ago and it's
still not able to actually do it and still not able to actually well it could
be if I was willing to spend like $99,000 on Sony's solution which is
ridiculous yeah no like not even as good right yeah it's not as flexible yeah so
that's stupid all right peace out guys we'll see you next week bye everybody