WEBVTT 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:09.280 all right and we're live you guys know what it was this is hilarious it was uh 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:15.719 Power cycling or not power yeah Power cycling the microphone so um funnily 00:00:13.799 --> 00:00:21.439 enough well not even power cycling the microphone cycling the phantom power 00:00:18.880 --> 00:00:25.240 switch on our mixer for the microphone because actually powering down the 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:29.480 entire mixer and then powering it back up completely didn't address the issue 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:35.000 but pressing the button and then pressing it again did for whatever 00:00:32.160 --> 00:00:39.800 freaking reason I can't even begin to Fathom this stuff it's too complicated 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:44.640 for me cuz I'm stupid don't know anything anyway 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:48.879 um I'm sure there's an explanation for this that was so depressing I know I'm 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:53.280 stupid don't know anything but these people are all 00:00:50.680 --> 00:00:58.120 listening to me what does that make them wow what's with okay we need to start 00:00:55.199 --> 00:01:01.399 talk depressing everything's depressing I know I'm whenever the show is laid 00:01:00.120 --> 00:01:05.439 depressed I was talking to him about this offline and I'm like I know you 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:09.759 guys hate it when the show is late we hate it when the show is late too 00:01:07.119 --> 00:01:14.119 because like I feel personally responsible for all the hours of time 00:01:12.600 --> 00:01:19.680 that are being wasted while people sit and wait for us and that's terrible and 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:22.200 we went as far as to buy completely new 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:26.520 sets of all of our equipment so that everything the camera the lens the 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:30.799 microphone the boom pole the mixer the compressor the computer everything stays 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:34.200 in this room and we we don't touch it other than to live stream that's how far 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:38.600 we went to make sure that our show was on time for you guys and yet here we are 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:43.479 and we still have these issues and I'm really really sorry but enough of that 00:01:41.520 --> 00:01:50.399 let's get this thing started shall we the big news this week is obviously 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:50.399 Facebook's acquisition of 00:01:51.119 --> 00:01:57.119 oculus oh this is hilarious uh twitch is 00:01:54.320 --> 00:02:03.640 like confirmed W show acquired by Facebook no not so much our setup would 00:02:01.240 --> 00:02:07.759 have probably worked if we had that much money and you know what that's one of 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:12.400 the positive things to take away from this whole thing we're going to get into it in more depth later but we do have 00:02:10.720 --> 00:02:16.560 some other initial topics here that I just want to sort of throw at you guys 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:20.040 that we will be talking about so NVIDIA had a call earlier this week where they 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:24.560 talked about their plans with respect to directex 12 and how that figures into 00:02:22.440 --> 00:02:29.040 their overall strategy you know what's funny is I don't think NVIDIA ever 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:34.080 actually outright said we are not going to support men no matter how open it is 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:39.159 in fact I think they still haven't said that but 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:44.159 no they also pushed a big update for NVIDIA SHIELD this week which is a huge 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:49.080 deal allows things like off off-site game stream uh so we'll get into more 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:52.959 details on that later but like three good luck scrolling through the document 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:56.959 yeah four five pages of our document are all Oculus this week so it's going to be 00:02:55.040 --> 00:03:01.319 kind of a big deal NVIDIA also launched the Titan Z Bitcoins are now considered 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:04.660 property and without further Ado let's get this intro done so we can get this 00:03:02.760 --> 00:03:10.539 show on the 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:33.599 road whoa what's that we're going to paxi sponsored by Intel and forair also 00:03:31.519 --> 00:03:37.799 sponsoring this week's episode of The W show is Hotspot Shield with their Elite 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:43.159 service which you can get 20% off of by the way with offer code Linus you can uh 00:03:41.239 --> 00:03:47.480 make it more difficult for people to figure out who you are online you can 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:52.200 actually get access to services that are otherwise geographically locked and I 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:55.760 mean those are I guess the main benefits of a VPN you can probably stop Facebook 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:59.480 from tracking you yeah and you can do all that relatively inexpensively and 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:06.519 easily all right so let's get into our first topic here let's just do something 00:04:02.720 --> 00:04:08.879 before like the train wreck of the let's 00:04:06.519 --> 00:04:11.640 do one topic I don't even think so you don't even think so you want to get okay 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:18.680 let's do this thing I honestly just think we jump right into okay so I the 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:21.880 role of lus over the next um 45 minutes 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:24.759 or so will be played by um I'm going to 00:04:21.880 --> 00:04:29.160 go get Jeff so you you go ahead and get started you have input on this do I you 00:04:27.320 --> 00:04:33.560 talked to me a little bit Jeff has input too okay and I'm not letting you make 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:38.960 Jeff's voice not heard I did murder him earlier no literally n okay well as all 00:04:37.280 --> 00:04:46.120 of you know at this point I'm sure and if you don't how what I no um so Oculus 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:51.840 was acquired by Facebook for $400 million cash and what equated to a total 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:56.560 with that cash of $2 billion in cash and stock auctions so they got2 billion kind 00:04:55.000 --> 00:05:01.960 of because a lot of it Facebook stock which went down a lot recently resulting 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:04.360 in about a negative $112 million change 00:05:01.960 --> 00:05:07.240 on that deal although everyone suspects that Facebook stock is just going to 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:10.360 bounce back so it probably actually won't matter in the end and they're not 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:14.520 exactly selling all this stock immediately anyways because they're 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:17.560 probably going to have to sell it over time and then blah blah blah blah blah 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:21.080 so there's tons of speculation around that so whatever it was $2 billion deal 00:05:19.880 --> 00:05:27.919 we'll figure out how much that equates to in the end and I'm sure by that time no one will really care anyways there's 00:05:25.039 --> 00:05:31.080 a bunch of negative and positive um angles you can take on this I'm going to 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:34.039 go through the negative ones first at least these are angles that I've seen 00:05:32.440 --> 00:05:38.759 people take already there's obviously some that'll pop up later on that we haven't talked about yet but the 00:05:36.960 --> 00:05:42.319 negative angles the main ones I've seen is people on the internet don't trust 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:47.800 Acquisitions generally whenever there's an acquisition people on the internet 00:05:44.280 --> 00:05:49.199 just hate it all right moving on they 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:54.039 said they weren't interested in being acquired before there's actually quite a few quotes of them saying Oh we won't 00:05:52.400 --> 00:05:59.479 have to be acquired by some big company and that's a good thing blah blah blah blah blah and now they're acquired by a 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:03.440 huge company so that's interesting I guess guess moving on being acquired due 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:07.680 to Kickstarter success feels like betrayal Notch actually echoed this by 00:06:06.080 --> 00:06:12.280 saying that he didn't donate $10,000 just as a seed fund so they 00:06:10.280 --> 00:06:14.759 could be acquired by a huge company that's not an exact quote but it's 00:06:13.599 --> 00:06:21.240 something along those lines we'll get more into that later the internet kind 00:06:17.960 --> 00:06:22.919 of as a glommed whole obviously not the 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:28.880 entire thing but just generally the voice of the internet dislikes Facebook 00:06:25.400 --> 00:06:30.039 so this the vocal the vocal minority cuz 00:06:28.880 --> 00:06:34.840 I mean if you look at you look at Facebook's user base it's huge obviously 00:06:32.479 --> 00:06:40.720 the whole internet doesn't refuse to use Facebook what a lot of people see as the 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:43.000 internet the popular opinion voice of 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:47.800 the internet folk yeah not necessarily the action but the voice of the internet 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:49.360 yeah um Facebook is deemed as creepy by 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:53.599 people like Notch again we'll get into Notch's comments on this later um people 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:57.800 wanted Oculus to stick with its home brew roots and signing up with Facebook 00:06:55.879 --> 00:07:02.360 is not exactly sticking with Homebrew Roots um why didn't some other company 00:07:00.840 --> 00:07:05.800 buy them and there's been a whole bunch of things like like valve and all these 00:07:04.280 --> 00:07:11.440 other things which may or may not make any sense at all but we'll get into that 00:07:07.280 --> 00:07:13.160 later again um really it's worth 00:07:11.440 --> 00:07:18.400 WhatsApp is worth 10 times as much as Oculus almost we'll get into that later 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:23.080 um and all the comments of oh my God Farmville 3D and Facebook pop-ups all 00:07:21.479 --> 00:07:27.720 over your face and all that kind of stuff again we'll get into that later 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:32.400 now there's the positive angles that I've seen a lot of people take um it 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:34.840 will drive some new immersive experiences that are going to be very 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:39.680 deep you're gonna be able to go and hopefully travel different places experience different things shop online 00:07:38.280 --> 00:07:44.080 virtually hopefully be able to see sizing and stuff like that because your avatar will be the right size blah blah 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:46.280 blah blah blah tons of new experiences that you weren't expecting before 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:50.000 whether not you think that's a good thing this is a positive angle um The 00:07:48.440 --> 00:07:55.879 increased funding is allowing them to hire more Talent uh like Michael abrash which 00:07:53.960 --> 00:08:01.039 we'll talk about later that's amazing actually that's incredibly awesome um 00:07:59.080 --> 00:08:06.919 they we're already being controlled by investors is another big one 00:08:04.080 --> 00:08:09.879 um actually pretty deeply rooted one that we're going to get into later that 00:08:08.039 --> 00:08:13.960 I have a ton of theories about and some really interesting quotes uh that we've 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:18.120 seen over the past month or two which really hint to this but we'll talk about 00:08:15.520 --> 00:08:21.759 that later again um they didn't get purchased by another gaming hardware 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:26.360 company that would have been a disaster in my mind I mean if they' been bought 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:30.120 by I've actually seen people suggest that Sony or Microsoft would have been a 00:08:28.159 --> 00:08:38.399 better option terrible have been disastrous I mean you look at how closed 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:40.880 Xbox and Playstation are as E Systems 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:44.560 and even even like the Oculus Community which is generally right now makers 00:08:42.560 --> 00:08:47.760 hackers hardcores all that kind of stuff have been talking but like there there's 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:51.920 the there's there's there's the Tuscany demo you can go to a small version of 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:56.560 Tuscany and enjoy that environment something that I've talked about on the stream before was how I hoped that 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:59.680 someone would go and recreate something like Rome and make it so that someone 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:04.839 even if they're in an old folks home could travel the world and experience these things this is very cool and you 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:10.600 don't want to get locked into a gaming Hardware Niche and have none of that ever be possible right now Oculus is 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:15.920 open of course gaming is going to drive it but hopefully it opens up so again 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:19.760 these are all positive angles um they can now afford custom Hardware they've 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:23.560 been scraping off what they can kind of manage to get from the mobile market 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:27.399 like mobile phones and now they'll actually be able to make Hardware that 00:09:24.880 --> 00:09:30.560 is designed and built and manufactured for the rift instead of like something 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:35.440 that was made for something else and they're just kind of hacking it and forcing it in there and making it work 00:09:33.880 --> 00:09:41.839 because I mean and this is something that with sort of the whole negative thing um where the the makers and 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:47.519 hackers don't really feel that great about Oculus not staying true to the 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:50.120 home brew Roots but those guys also want 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:56.680 a fantastic VR experience and purpose made Hardware is 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:57.959 going to be a big way to get there yeah 00:09:56.680 --> 00:10:03.000 all right so are we going through the history now or one one more 00:10:00.160 --> 00:10:08.040 uh oh crap where did it go I can't remember where it is doesn't 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:10.920 matter I'll get into it later um so how I designed this document and how I think 00:10:09.880 --> 00:10:16.399 we're going to go through this is actually like kind of the progression of 00:10:13.079 --> 00:10:18.720 thought of kind of a lot of people and 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:22.680 how people found out different news and part of maybe the reason why it started 00:10:20.839 --> 00:10:26.440 off as a massive explosion not that it isn't still a massive explosion you can 00:10:24.800 --> 00:10:29.440 make your own decision on whether or not it's positive or negative and we'll get 00:10:27.839 --> 00:10:33.240 into that kind of stuff later but we're just going to go through how things 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:36.600 happened and why things happened and uh the reason we're going to do that I mean 00:10:34.880 --> 00:10:40.639 I've seen a few comments in twitch chat from people saying oh I'm not that 00:10:37.920 --> 00:10:46.120 interested in Oculus uh okay two things number one yes you are you just don't 00:10:42.800 --> 00:10:47.760 know it yet and number two Oculus is 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:53.680 well basically the same as number one Oculus and VR in general is extremely 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:57.360 important and this is a turning point in 00:10:53.680 --> 00:11:00.440 not just gaming and not just Oculus but 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:02.000 in VR and in that's going to mean for 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:06.440 the future so that's why we are dedicating almost an entire show to it 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:12.000 you guys can stay tuned in and this is going to be a really great show um Luke 00:11:08.680 --> 00:11:13.480 in particular has worked extremely hard 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:17.600 on making sure that we're bringing you guys some really good coverage of what 00:11:15.160 --> 00:11:20.800 happened this week um so you can stay tuned in and you can enjoy that or if 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:26.560 you don't think this is important legitimately don't think this is important then I mean you can probably 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:31.720 tune back in in about 45 minutes or an hour and we'll get into some of the NVIDIA stuff and some of the other stuff 00:11:28.880 --> 00:11:34.880 this week but this is such a big deal right now and in the future another 00:11:33.560 --> 00:11:38.519 thing that I wanted to bring up the the thing I forgot to bring up on the positive angles thing which is actually 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:44.480 not on the dock which is probably why you started talking is uh even if you 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:46.320 are done with oculus it doesn't matter 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:49.560 VR is now going to happen because there's been this big of an investment 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:54.000 other investment firms are going to look into other companies and start pouring a 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:57.639 lot more money into VR because Facebook is huge and they are a competitor a 00:11:55.560 --> 00:12:00.880 natural competitor of many things so VR is now going to happen there's a lot lot 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:04.600 of people have been going like oh Oculus is dead now whether or not they're dead 00:12:03.160 --> 00:12:11.360 doesn't matter even if they're the sacrificial lamb it's going to happen 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:13.800 now VR is we made it when one company 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:18.519 Dives in and invests a couple billion then everyone else kind of goes oh this 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:22.480 matters so so whether Facebook thinks it's important so all of a sudden VR 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:26.600 companies are going to be acquired by big guys and they're going to get 00:12:23.880 --> 00:12:31.160 investment funding and all the funding and it's going to happen and it's going 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:35.360 to be really great whether it's the kind of great we envisioned or not whether or 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:38.519 not you think Oculus is now the sacrificial L that's going to die or if 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:44.600 you think they're just going to be the biggest thing on the planet doesn't matter it's happening which is which is 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:51.480 a good thing so it started off with the posts by uh Mark Zuckerberg and Palmer 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:54.680 lucky on Palmer posting on Reddit and on 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:56.959 the blog for Oculus and Mark posting on 00:12:54.680 --> 00:12:59.959 Facebook can you um can you make sure that okay I'm going to try and keep up 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:04.279 with you and post and stuff since I won't have a whole ton to say um at the 00:13:02.880 --> 00:13:09.360 start it should be fairly easy it's starting off fairly slow especially because I'm I'm mainly going over the 00:13:07.199 --> 00:13:11.600 future VR red post so I'm going to stay there for a while and then it might get 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:17.519 a little bit so I'm going to go ahead and drop this in there yeah so I'm going to start off with some very notable 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:22.839 things that were said in Palmer's post on Reddit um he said we we've reached 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:26.240 we've received orders of over 75,000 development kits from game developers 00:13:24.800 --> 00:13:29.560 content creators and artists around the world there's and I'm going to comment 00:13:28.160 --> 00:13:33.000 on each thing that I've read in here and then go into other comments later on one 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:37.160 big thing that people were attacking him over on this was a lot of people that 00:13:35.079 --> 00:13:41.040 went into this aren't game developers content creators and artists I'm not a 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:45.279 game developer content creator or an artist of course you're not particularly 00:13:42.839 --> 00:13:50.279 talented at all are you no I think you're great that was so 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:52.079 me anyways I dabbled in making some 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:56.880 stuff in unity and it was fun to be completely honest but I didn't make anything that was worth releasing I'm 00:13:54.720 --> 00:14:01.480 not a I'm not a game designer I'm I've I've dabbled in programming but I'm not 00:13:58.199 --> 00:14:03.160 that amazing um and I know everyone I 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:06.399 know that's bought one isn't any of these things they're interested in the 00:14:04.680 --> 00:14:10.000 company so people were worried that he was abusing that number to try and get 00:14:08.199 --> 00:14:12.800 investment feeds and before cancelling because they're trying to vote with their wallet whatever we'll get more 00:14:11.959 --> 00:14:18.160 into that later um another quote from there was 00:14:15.920 --> 00:14:21.079 when Facebook first approached us about partnering I was skeptical a lot of 00:14:20.079 --> 00:14:25.839 people were like you probably should have kept that angle um we'll get more into that later 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:30.440 and why he ended up doing it all that kind of stuff um Facebook is run in an 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:34.399 open way that is aligned with oculus is culture a lot of people respond in 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:39.160 saying how is Facebook aligned in an with oculus at all in an open way blah 00:14:36.800 --> 00:14:42.519 blah blah blah blah but there is reasons for and against that they have pushed 00:14:41.040 --> 00:14:45.360 for a lot of open development people are saying oh no they haven't they actually 00:14:44.160 --> 00:14:50.120 have they've invested quite a bit of money in open development some of their stuff is proprietary and closed but not 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:53.759 everything they do push for some open stuff they've talked a lot about even 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:58.480 things like the architecture that they use to make Facebook so responsive with 00:14:55.880 --> 00:15:04.040 such a with s the heavy load that it has um open about a lot they are pushing 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:09.639 connectivity forward in some ways and I don't want this to feel like I'm some 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:11.079 kind of a Facebook Fanboy I'm not but I 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:15.360 didn't even have it until I needed to be able to admin the L sector's Facebook 00:15:13.079 --> 00:15:19.279 page yeah I know right so like yeah I don't know we're yeah it's just that's 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:24.199 just a fact they haven't been completely against openness uh no matter how you 00:15:21.560 --> 00:15:28.519 want to see it uh it means Oculus Rift with oculus rift with fewer Oculus Rift 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:33.040 will be able to come out with fewer compromis and faster which is that's 00:15:31.040 --> 00:15:35.720 just probably true there's tons more money yeah they can pay more for 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:39.800 manufacturing they can push things through faster um Oculus is somewhat 00:15:37.920 --> 00:15:44.040 unpredictable future just became Crystal Clear virtual real reality is coming and 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:47.680 it's going to change the way we View and play games forever that was slightly 00:15:45.839 --> 00:15:52.000 edited but it's essentially what we were talking about earlier VR is happening 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:55.160 now yeah no matter what um another quote from him I'm obsessed with VR I spend 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:58.399 every day pushing further and every night dreaming of where we're going uh 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:02.199 even in my wildest dreams I never imagine we come so far so fast I'm a 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:05.279 proud member of this community thank you all for carrying virtual reality and 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:10.199 gaming forward and trusting us to deliver we won't let you down so he said 00:16:08.160 --> 00:16:16.800 all that but the reality of it is is he can't say anything else so we're not 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:18.519 sure what to read into this I think at 00:16:16.800 --> 00:16:23.360 the at the end of the day if you trust Palmer and you trust the Oculus team 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:29.519 it's not like they can just bail and start again because Oculus the company 00:16:26.199 --> 00:16:33.079 owns so many patents now that they in 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:35.120 all likelihood wouldn't even be able to 00:16:33.079 --> 00:16:38.399 start up again and go back up against their old company I'm sure there's some 00:16:36.560 --> 00:16:42.560 type of non-compete agreements and stuff too but there's there there is things in 00:16:40.680 --> 00:16:46.360 here people were wondering like oh are those uh Notch actually specifically I'm 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:50.720 going to jump down right here so let's clarify who Notch is Minecraft DE 00:16:48.160 --> 00:16:53.800 Minecraft creator Notch uh actually replied on this exact Reddit thread 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:59.279 saying you got my respect before I met you you kept it when I met you blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I'm going to 00:16:56.079 --> 00:17:01.639 jump forward a little bit um where I 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:05.280 just hope you got your fair share VR will live on thank you for being part of 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:08.280 making it finally happen but I really wish this hadn't happened the main part 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.720 I was trying to say is I understand you're probably under a big NDA and 00:17:10.120 --> 00:17:16.799 stuck in golden handcuffs um which which is interesting 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:21.319 but you also have to realize that you've got Palmer and which is interesting a 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:27.760 lot of people started to trust palmer but you have John karmac mhm John carmac 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:29.559 isn't just going to shut up and code 00:17:27.760 --> 00:17:33.880 because someone's slapping dollar bills at him yeah that's not going to happen 00:17:31.600 --> 00:17:37.320 so if if this does start getting forced in a bad direction if I were you guys 00:17:35.919 --> 00:17:42.960 paying attention I would listen to John carac honestly personally I'm going to listen to Palmer too but he is a lot 00:17:41.080 --> 00:17:47.240 newer to the scene than John freaking karmac John karmac says whatever he 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:50.760 wants as far as I can tell and as far as anyone can probably tell I'm going to go 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:55.360 ahead and so if you if you really want to get some feedback uh karmac actually 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:59.360 posted on Twitter about 3 days ago he basically said look the volume of tweets 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:04.240 right now is way too high can't even begin to look at it all but if you hit 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:09.159 me in a few days or like once the poop storm starts to die down a little bit 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:13.159 then he does want to engage he does want to engage he does want to talk about it 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:17.000 um when I initially saw that it was radio Silence from carac for the first 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:22.640 couple of days after the acquisition that set off some warning Bells maybe 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:25.039 he's unhappy but it looks now as if he 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:29.159 was just weathering the storm he he actually he said I'm currently coding he 00:18:27.280 --> 00:18:32.880 was essentially being like guys I'm working well that's a blog post from uh 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:38.360 from when that was from yesterday or the day before right yeah I'm currently coding that was pretty early on actually 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:43.679 so he's like yeah I'm still coding just the same as I was this time last week so 00:18:42.080 --> 00:18:46.520 for all intents and purposes nothing has changed and that was echoing the idea 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:50.840 that the Facebook acquisition hadn't changed anything anyways moving on um 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:55.520 people were asking when they saw notch in the comments they were asking him a whole bunch of questions and they were 00:18:53.679 --> 00:18:59.240 basically saying please tell me it's going to be all right Notch replied with 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:03.480 a lot of companies are working on V now this means competition this means better 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:08.080 VR and higher chances of a mass Market acceptance this means even better VR 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:12.240 it's going to be all right very small italicize print maybe so that Echoes 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:17.000 again the thing that we said earlier where no matter what you think about this it's pushing VR forward whether or 00:19:14.919 --> 00:19:22.240 not Oculus is what carries the torch in the end they're carrying it right now um 00:19:20.159 --> 00:19:26.120 people are saying to Palmer you are the chosen one you were supposed to destroy 00:19:24.159 --> 00:19:29.400 the Sith not join them bring balance to the voice not leave it in darkness um I 00:19:28.320 --> 00:19:34.679 just had to to keep that in there because it was kind of funny now echoing 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:38.000 one of the most highly upvoted posts on the thread these were a bunch of the 00:19:36.120 --> 00:19:42.320 concerns Facebook is known for its intrusive tracking of users Facebook is 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:45.640 undoubtedly a massive company it is beginning to lose a lot of its teenage 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:50.240 population due to more widespread use of the older population and the fact that 00:19:47.679 --> 00:19:54.799 Oculus has been acquired by Facebook Palmer has repeatedly said um part 00:19:52.679 --> 00:19:58.240 partnership or partnering um but they were acquired so he was worried about 00:19:56.679 --> 00:20:02.159 that terminology where it might just be kind of a hay and Palmer thinks they're 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:08.120 partnering up but really Facebook is the one on top so those were the the the 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:10.280 main things spoken there um about the 00:20:08.120 --> 00:20:15.280 Facebook is known for intrusive tracking of users uh as far as I can tell if the 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:20.960 if the lead people of oculus still have anything to say about it that platform is going to be really open and you'll 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:24.600 probably know about it so that might be a bad thing but again Oculus is carrying 00:20:22.760 --> 00:20:29.640 the torch now so if later on down the line you see an update like the update 00:20:26.679 --> 00:20:33.679 we saw on uh mobile says like Facebook is now reading all of your text messages 00:20:31.360 --> 00:20:38.520 despite having nothing to do with those um you should know about it so just pay 00:20:36.840 --> 00:20:42.679 a lot of attention and then I mean Facebook's whole thing I don't see anything in your notes here but 00:20:40.840 --> 00:20:48.080 Facebook's whole thing has been we're we want Oculus to operate pretty basically 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:53.480 independently um just like what we did with Instagram and WhatsApp but my 00:20:50.760 --> 00:20:58.000 counter to that is I mean you look at Mark Zuckerberg's blog post where he 00:20:55.480 --> 00:21:03.000 talks about the future of connectivity and how EXC cting these experiences we 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:06.440 can deliver you know whether it's travel or whether it's having a face to- face 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:11.559 meeting with someone or or whatever it happens to be when he talks about that 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:19.080 we're talking like a 10year 20 year outlook and they acquired Instagram like 00:21:15.520 --> 00:21:23.640 two years ago and they acquired WhatsApp 00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:25.120 like so this is not a track record of 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:30.919 acquiring companies and letting them operate independently this is this is in 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:34.200 the last like little tiny amount of time 00:21:30.919 --> 00:21:36.320 like since lonus Media Group was formed 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:42.480 they haven't really disrupted things with their two big Acquisitions so the 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:43.600 fact that all this is being said now uh 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:49.279 I mean you look at how quickly politicians can turn around and have a campaign and then go back on that and 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:55.120 still get elected four years later the collective memory of people is so short 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:58.960 that even if Facebook does exert complete control over Oculus in let's 00:21:57.360 --> 00:22:04.200 let's use four years as an example because that's the elected term in the 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:07.320 US and Canada for politicians so even if 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:09.960 Facebook does in 4 years exert complete 00:22:07.320 --> 00:22:14.159 control and four years after that plaster the whole platform with ads and 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:18.720 use it as a way to collect data on where you go what you look at and all of this 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:25.200 great stuff probably no one will ever even remember this happened and except 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:27.880 you except for me um now we get into the 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:32.000 poop storm that that was the start of it and that was people honestly in that 00:22:30.120 --> 00:22:35.240 Reddit thread I found it to be more calm than elsewhere which was kind of 00:22:33.120 --> 00:22:38.679 confusing things started popping up people started digging up things on both 00:22:36.840 --> 00:22:43.120 Facebook and Oculus first want that one first first thing yeah there's a really 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:48.600 bad word in it um first thing that comes to mind is a very old screenshot from a 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:53.400 conversation that um Mark Zuckerberg had when he said um yeah so if you ever need 00:22:50.760 --> 00:22:58.840 any info on about anyone at Harvard just ask I have over 4,000 emails pictures 00:22:55.559 --> 00:23:00.159 addresses SNS Etc and then the guy said 00:22:58.840 --> 00:23:05.440 how do you manage that he said people just submitted it I don't know why they 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:06.960 trust me dumb well yeah we don't say 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:12.240 that word on this show but you guys can read it's right there yeah um so like 00:23:10.360 --> 00:23:16.159 that's not cool especially because of speculation that VR devices are going to 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:19.720 get things like eye tracking the fact that this thing is strapped to your 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:23.400 freaking face so if you're looking at a certain product or something like that 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:28.080 they know it's not just like in another tab you are looking at it with your face 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:32.440 and I'm not blaming AMD for this but they're true audio technology so the 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:36.720 programmable DSP that like it's it's like a really powerful sound processor 00:23:34.760 --> 00:23:42.159 they showed off some really cool demos with respect to voice recognition so all 00:23:38.919 --> 00:23:45.720 of a sudden now hold on a second because 00:23:42.159 --> 00:23:47.919 we went from you know um not being too 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:53.159 worried about people really tapping into anything that we're doing to all of a 00:23:50.080 --> 00:23:55.600 sudden is face to-face conversation 00:23:53.159 --> 00:23:59.880 going to be the only way to actually not have anyone listening and are we going 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:06.640 to allow ourselves to be convinced that aside from phone taps and messaging Taps 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:10.919 um when you have a VR conversation with someone like uh I mean you look at the 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:16.120 kinds of things the kinds of experiences that VR could bring us do you want 00:24:13.320 --> 00:24:20.880 Facebook listening to everything you say when you have a family reunion and 00:24:17.760 --> 00:24:23.120 everyone's vring in because what a cool 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:27.480 experience but they'll be able to recognize everything you say and use 00:24:25.679 --> 00:24:32.240 that information Facebook wants to own your information and what 00:24:30.360 --> 00:24:37.559 this and Zuckerberg said a really stupid 00:24:35.080 --> 00:24:42.200 thing in a text Mage and it's old and it's old and he was stupid and he was 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:46.760 young and I'm sure he would be the first to admit that that was a super stupid 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:52.399 thing to say and he would take it back 100% today if he could but it still 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:54.679 happened but it did happen 00:24:52.399 --> 00:25:01.279 um so you guys can read into that whatever you want but I do believe that 00:24:57.679 --> 00:25:03.559 while people don't change much I think 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:08.840 they can grow up and I hope that that was just a young college guy having a 00:25:07.360 --> 00:25:12.200 and I think that's when was only tied into Harvard and like a lot of things 00:25:10.679 --> 00:25:17.279 have changed since then another thing that people are worried about with the Facebook thing is again all of your data 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:21.279 blah blah blah blah blah and I know in one of kac's tweets he said like if you 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:24.720 guys blog or whatever about this I'm going to pay attention so and he said 00:25:23.520 --> 00:25:30.640 like things that you're worried about and ways that it can be fixed and stuff like that so if you do have to be 00:25:27.840 --> 00:25:34.480 listening that's really cool hi also um like creepiness Factor try to control 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:39.039 the creepiness Factor make sure it's open make sure people know what's going on because I think that's honestly the 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:42.840 biggest reason why people are scared of Facebook is just the fact that Facebook 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:49.679 can be really creepy um so that's probably the biggest thing I'd say um 00:25:45.320 --> 00:25:50.960 the camera that is now on Oculus people 00:25:49.679 --> 00:25:56.039 we don't really have it yet so we don't know if it's actually taking images or if it's only scanning for IR LEDs but 00:25:54.679 --> 00:25:59.200 who knows what'll happen in the future maybe there's an actual camera fixed on 00:25:57.919 --> 00:26:02.559 that thing um that's and you know what's scary is I 00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:08.360 would opt in for the camera model for sure I I already yeah yeah like okay 00:26:05.840 --> 00:26:13.600 even if told DK even if even if it was an option if someone was like look we 00:26:10.760 --> 00:26:17.760 can put an IR tracker one only and you can put IR you know kits around in your 00:26:15.760 --> 00:26:21.679 room or whatever else or we can give you one with a camera you get like a 00:26:19.120 --> 00:26:24.360 skeleton frame yeah no I know and like that's I would take the camera one even 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:30.200 if I knew that they were looking at what I was looking at because of it's going to be such a great experience I 00:26:28.360 --> 00:26:33.320 are going to do that so like I said what we're worried about is the creepiness 00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:37.480 Factor so just try and keep that under control and all right what's our next 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:40.360 one our next one is Oculus is not connected with Facebook this is just 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:45.279 kind of funny it's just kind of fun won't spend much time on this one taking a break from the hate so with during the 00:26:43.760 --> 00:26:51.120 and now actually which is kind of hilarious this was taken earlier today 00:26:47.600 --> 00:26:52.279 it's not like a yeah I do yeah I've seen 00:26:51.120 --> 00:26:57.039 people screenshot that that's my screenshot though cuz I couldn't find it at the time but Oculus had not connected 00:26:55.559 --> 00:27:02.320 with Facebook during the campaign and they still haven't on Kickstarter at least which is just kind of hilarious 00:26:59.919 --> 00:27:05.360 John karmac may or may not even have a Facebook account there's a Facebook 00:27:03.679 --> 00:27:10.120 account for John carac up right now but it looks like super public figure 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:13.360 Facebook account and like the title is Godfather of moving 3D images or 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:17.039 something like that I doubt that he put that in there doesn't seem like his 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:19.760 style no and it's not like verified or anything he did tweet that he'll 00:27:18.399 --> 00:27:23.080 probably have to get a Facebook account now but I don't think he's rushing to do 00:27:21.600 --> 00:27:27.720 it he's probably busy coding cuz he's kind of Awesome with that um anyways 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:31.080 moving on to the thing that had me super pissed off off at the beginning the 00:27:29.600 --> 00:27:34.520 reason why I thought the entire thing was just ruined and why I basically 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:38.840 cried over Twitter for a little while and the reason that a lot of people felt 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:43.960 this way this New York Times post was brutal and honestly where I think most 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:47.720 of the hate came from um just jumping into saying what's exactly in the 00:27:45.399 --> 00:27:51.960 article according to a person a person involved with the deal who was not 00:27:50.080 --> 00:27:56.440 allowed to speak publicly because he was not authorized by either company 00:27:54.120 --> 00:28:01.360 Facebook eventually plans to redesign the Oculus hardware and Rebrand with a 00:27:58.600 --> 00:28:05.720 Facebook interface and Logo which didn't even make any sense really like what 00:28:03.679 --> 00:28:08.919 does that even mean but that's why that's one of the reasons why I was so 00:28:07.120 --> 00:28:13.600 mad right because the whole deal didn't make sense on the surface social network 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:17.240 acquiring VR Gaming company and then it's like rebranding and calling what 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:22.840 the heck yeah like what what is this exactly since then Facebook has made 00:28:20.600 --> 00:28:27.240 their intentions much more clear and this was was 00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:32.080 wholeheartedly denied like it was hammered down but it sat there for a 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:36.519 while and let a lot of people stew and it was it was scary and I love how it's 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:40.000 like a small part of that article too and it's not like a like a you know how 00:28:38.360 --> 00:28:44.360 they pop it out and make it big and make it a different color and all that kind of stuff like The Verge does uh they 00:28:42.840 --> 00:28:47.240 didn't do that with it or anything like it's it's it's kind of at the bottom but 00:28:45.919 --> 00:28:52.480 it's like the most important thing in the entire article um but yeah that's 00:28:49.399 --> 00:28:55.480 been shut down pretty quick so no longer 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:57.600 worry about that um and then other 00:28:55.480 --> 00:29:01.440 things start coming out like the people are saying it's an internal call um I've 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:05.640 heard a lot of news that it actually wasn't an internal call it was quite 00:29:03.600 --> 00:29:11.080 public but I have no idea which is true either way I don't care it was as far as 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:14.279 I know an investor call for Oculus and Facebook and there's some QA and Mark 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:17.799 Zuckerberg's on the call and it's fairly interesting but almost all the way 00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:20.919 through the call there's the part that most people actually listen to I ended 00:29:19.399 --> 00:29:24.559 up listening to the whole thing but this is the part that people really cared 00:29:22.760 --> 00:29:28.600 about it's really long I don't know if I'll actually read through the whole 00:29:25.760 --> 00:29:32.159 thing how about I read it I'm fast go all right so he says so this is from 00:29:30.760 --> 00:29:37.120 Zuckerberg he says in terms of our business model we're clearly not a hardware company we're not going to try 00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:40.960 and make a profit off the device itself in the long term and we see this as a 00:29:39.399 --> 00:29:43.960 software and services thing where if we can make it so that this becomes a 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:48.120 network so that people can be communicating and buying things like 00:29:45.760 --> 00:29:50.720 virtual Goods uh there might be adverts in the world but we need to figure that 00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:56.559 out down the line so that's probably where the business will come from but for the foreseeable future the main goal 00:29:54.039 --> 00:30:00.399 that we have is building out the product using the different levers that Facebook 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:04.320 has to make the technology affordable and to make it ubiquitous and to use the 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:09.440 different technologies that Facebook has developed to bring it to Market as soon as 00:30:06.360 --> 00:30:11.080 possible so there you go that's the plan 00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:15.159 whether that makes it any less scary to you or not for me it doesn't at all um 00:30:13.360 --> 00:30:18.840 clearly the plan is investing in the platform and making it successful so 00:30:17.159 --> 00:30:23.200 that's the priority and they will figure out the monetization later so it's the 00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:27.200 whole internet company startup model except this time being applied to an 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:31.880 actual piece of Hardware because that piece of hardware is so directly tied 00:30:29.760 --> 00:30:37.000 into the software experience they can't exist without each other now this I 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:40.480 cover that okay yeah this scared and didn't scare a lot of people for 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:43.240 multiple reasons um it scared people because it was an internal call the 00:30:41.760 --> 00:30:47.360 second that came out everyone freaked out whether or not that's even true I 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:50.919 don't know um people only heard the advertisement part and freaked out one 00:30:49.159 --> 00:30:54.799 thing you have to remember that this is an investment call this isn't this 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:58.880 wasn't a this wasn't the public post on Facebook this was an investment call he 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:02.039 Zuckerberg can't just be like well yeah I want to play VR games so I bought this 00:31:00.639 --> 00:31:05.679 company so that I can like make this thing even better I mean I don't think 00:31:03.840 --> 00:31:09.919 that's it although it'd be super cool if he was like if you read his Facebook 00:31:07.639 --> 00:31:16.279 posts it's the most like oh my God I love this thing post that I've seen of 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:18.159 anyone ever so who knows there may even 00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:23.080 be a little bit of that and we can hope for that because if he's truly 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:24.480 passionate about the technology then I 00:31:23.080 --> 00:31:28.840 kind of go okay maybe it'll be okay but then 00:31:27.360 --> 00:31:33.840 probably not because in the future he'll still have to bend to the the needs of 00:31:31.600 --> 00:31:37.159 his investors and monetize the heck out of the platform but then by the time 00:31:35.159 --> 00:31:41.519 that happens you're talking years in the future something else will be there as 00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:45.519 well yep it like doesn't matter there will be a competitor for Rift so we have 00:31:44.120 --> 00:31:50.159 to hope that they build up the Technology Drive everything further make 00:31:47.919 --> 00:31:53.360 this stuff um because make it profitable for developers to develop for VR 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:58.480 definitely and then hopefully competitors will jump in The Fray because even if you're still a huge fan 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:03.320 of oculus it doesn't matter competitors are good competition is always good it 00:32:00.760 --> 00:32:06.679 drives Innovation competition is good so anyways okay moving on there's some 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:10.120 other weird stuff this is this is actually largely stuff that I haven't 00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:13.559 seen around a ton but things that I've noticed over the last little while so 00:32:11.679 --> 00:32:17.840 starting off with oculus dropping out of the immersive technology Alliance kind 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:22.519 of awkwardly dropping out of the immersive technology Alliance so super 00:32:20.159 --> 00:32:26.240 awkward yeah um the immersive technology Alliance is a nonprofit games Collective 00:32:24.600 --> 00:32:30.639 that is focused on bringing stuff like augmented reality virtual reality 3D and 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:33.760 Chester control technology to the masses um it's it's an alliance there's tons of 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:39.440 these things there's the DVD Alliance there's there there's tons of them 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:43.960 um basically any standard whether it's like USB or DisplayPort is going to 00:32:41.840 --> 00:32:49.440 have some kind of group of individuals or companies or investors or entities 00:32:46.679 --> 00:32:54.960 that manage the standard and drive it Forward because if they don't things get 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:56.720 kind of insane usually so it's like the 00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.799 high-profile virtual reality company Oculus Rift recently dropped over the 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:05.919 this Alliance but Oculus claims they were never a part of it yet the ITA guys 00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:09.679 are saying they were a big part of it and actually helped them move from what 00:33:07.760 --> 00:33:14.200 they previously known as which was S3 DGA to the newly named ITA and Oculus 00:33:12.840 --> 00:33:18.960 actually had them like remove their branding from their website and everything and basically just dropped 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:22.919 the ball moved back as far as they possibly could and say I was never 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:28.039 playing which is interesting and this is not the newest news um this was from a 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.639 little while ago I think I actually shortly mentioned it on the show but 00:33:29.639 --> 00:33:38.159 because I didn't really know what it meant at the time I didn't make it a huge topic um it's it's just weird and 00:33:35.639 --> 00:33:42.720 the timing's a little bit off so they basically ITA is saying that they got 00:33:40.840 --> 00:33:47.080 their first official notification that Oculus was leaving the alliance late in 00:33:44.320 --> 00:33:52.279 the evening on March 15th yeah so this was like pretty pretty close to when the 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:57.039 deal happened and it's just this article is super super weird it's on polygon.com 00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:01.840 I don't think I there's not a lot of comments on it and no one's commented on 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:03.799 it since like the 18th right so it's 00:34:01.840 --> 00:34:06.559 yeah it's I don't know I just find that's interesting because they got 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:10.320 acquired by Facebook and then they locked off from the alliance that's 00:34:08.520 --> 00:34:15.839 trying to make some sort of standard so that's interesting then if you click on 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:23.240 the thread so this is where everything kind of started um this is 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:25.879 MTB mtbs 3d.com I I always screw that up 00:34:23.240 --> 00:34:28.679 U which is where Palmer is a huge member of this forum and this is where the the 00:34:27.359 --> 00:34:33.040 Epic like massive three 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:38.639 4,235 post thread started and this is yeah this is just a big deal and if you 00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:40.480 contr f for uh where is it sell out to a 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:44.720 large company you can see a big thread where 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:48.960 he answers a whole bunch of questions and right in the middle of it he says um 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.679 Oculus is going forward in a big way but in a way that still lets me focus on the 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:57.720 Community First and not sell out to a large company a lot of people were very 00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:00.280 upset about this comment because 00:34:57.720 --> 00:35:03.160 Community First not sell out to a large company so now people are saying are you 00:35:01.839 --> 00:35:07.560 no longer Community First because you sold out to a large company um the 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:13.480 problems with this are if you jump into the next one the big $75 million 00:35:10.200 --> 00:35:16.000 investment that happened um not way too 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:19.320 long ago the guy that did that works for Facebook actually if you check out the 00:35:17.560 --> 00:35:23.200 board of directors which I also have linked here this is where I was telling you you're going to get into rapid fire 00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:28.960 all I got this uh if you check out the board of directors you can see him there 00:35:25.839 --> 00:35:30.240 Mark Andre I believe um you can see him 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:34.680 on the board of directors for Facebook and he was a huge investment pool right 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:39.599 there and then quotes that have been fairly recently coming out of Palmer 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:43.400 saying Oculus has already sold out by raising Venture Capital money because 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:47.160 they had these investors that were able to control them a little bit and Palmer 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:51.560 said that a lot they already sold out and then they were acquired by Facebook 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:55.400 the same company that their big 75 million dollar investor is on the board 00:35:53.240 --> 00:36:00.480 of directors for which is really interesting and it also even seems like 00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:05.319 he was trying to tell us valve knew something on February 28th this is a 00:36:03.160 --> 00:36:10.240 quote from an article where a guy from valve went to visit Oculus he said the 00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:14.480 demo stuck me in a simple room whose walls were textured with financial data 00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:18.839 for Facebook from some website an odd Choice yeah there's a little Red Cube 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:22.280 bouncing around the room and the desire to avoid it was extremely strong a 00:36:20.560 --> 00:36:26.040 dodgeball SL laser field game immediately popped into my mind but as I 00:36:24.160 --> 00:36:29.480 mentioned before a tether really hurts this type of idea the part that I really 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:34.359 paid attention to when reading this and this was actually brought to my attention I didn't notice this was the 00:36:32.560 --> 00:36:38.839 the financial data for Facebook from some website just being plastered all 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:42.200 over the walls on February 28th it's interesting in combination with him 00:36:40.680 --> 00:36:45.400 saying that they were already sold out by raising venture capital and then 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:48.520 having that just kind of randomly leaked out there it's really weird to just do 00:36:47.319 --> 00:36:53.119 that anyways um these are all the like random 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:57.319 crap that I found over the last little while uh another tell he's a little into 00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:01.240 this hey I didn't really sleep much this week another thing that happened was uh 00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:08.000 if if you go to the corporate Reddit attack or framing link have there um was 00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:09.720 was weird ditto posts all over 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:12.680 technology and gaming this was again this is not a screenshot by me this is 00:37:11.240 --> 00:37:19.119 just something I found that someone else brought up um but you don't really know 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.880 what angle to go with this because why 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:25.880 we should explain what this is okay okay just so in case you guys so basically 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:31.319 defending the deal like right after it happened there were these what appear to 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:36.400 be shill accounts popping up on Reddit posting like copy paste responses or 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:40.000 very similar responses to people hating on it okay kind of all over the place 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:44.480 and a lot of times they very new accounts and stuff like that but it's 00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:48.720 that doesn't really make a lot of sense for the direction and angle that um 00:37:46.640 --> 00:37:51.760 anyone at Oculus was taking or anyone at Facebook was taking to be completely 00:37:50.160 --> 00:37:56.400 honest so we don't know whether or not this was it could have just as easily 00:37:53.960 --> 00:38:01.280 been someone trying to frame them destroy um any sort of positive 00:37:59.560 --> 00:38:06.040 sentiment that might have existed by pretending to be someone trying to 00:38:03.640 --> 00:38:12.000 defend what was going on in the most obvious horrible guerilla marketing way 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:13.680 so this is interesting we don't know 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:18.760 what side of the field it even plays on or did a whole bunch of people just happen to decide to copy and paste each 00:38:16.240 --> 00:38:24.160 other for karma that might have been it um so who knows not sure looks fishy 00:38:22.359 --> 00:38:28.720 don't know which side of it it's on it's just something interesting that we 00:38:25.560 --> 00:38:30.160 noticed um then things started popping 00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:33.960 up this is again going through somewhat of a timeline um then started things 00:38:32.319 --> 00:38:38.359 things started popping up of basically every Kickstarter I've ever heard of um 00:38:37.040 --> 00:38:44.119 especially the ones that I've been a part of because I've now seen updates by a few of them being like whoa whoa whoa 00:38:41.680 --> 00:38:48.560 we're not selling to Facebook even like some super random stuff that has nothing 00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:53.760 to do with anything being like whoa guys it's cool so people were begging Chris 00:38:51.720 --> 00:38:56.920 Roberts not to sell the Facebook which I found hilarious that was the main one I 00:38:55.200 --> 00:38:59.520 wanted to show because we're we're fairly into into Star Citizen so I 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:04.160 wanted to bring that one up but there's been stuff for tons of different kickstarters not just Star Citizen 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:09.880 there's even I forgot to put it in here there's even a Kickstarter running right now that has a stretch goal of $2 00:39:08.040 --> 00:39:15.560 billion that's like we'll try to buy Oculus from Facebook which is hilarious 00:39:13.200 --> 00:39:21.720 um someone was joking saying that there should be a$2 billion do stretch goal 00:39:17.240 --> 00:39:24.160 for cig saying that um it's preventing 00:39:21.720 --> 00:39:28.119 Facebook from buying cig a lot of people were joking but there was actually some 00:39:25.720 --> 00:39:32.599 legitimate fear in there and has started an interesting question on uh 00:39:30.359 --> 00:39:35.079 kickstarters for technology a lot of people feel like they're heavily 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:39.680 invested in something when they Kickstart it and feel like they should 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:43.560 they're kind of a part of the company but you're not yeah you're donating and 00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:49.400 then you're getting something back for donating but you're not getting a part of the company back for donating and 00:39:47.680 --> 00:39:52.960 while it feels like that and the kick the the culture around Kickstarter is 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:56.240 really heavily around like community community and you're a part of this and 00:39:54.560 --> 00:40:00.040 this is this is you you made this happen blah blah blah blah blah 00:39:57.839 --> 00:40:02.800 really you might have made it happen but it doesn't matter you're not actually a 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:08.920 part of that company you're not an investor and if you look at the kickstarter they promised you a dev kit 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:13.560 one Shi you a dev kit one or whatever other tier you were on or whatever tier 00:40:10.680 --> 00:40:18.079 you were on so any obligation that Oculus had to you is over and no matter 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:22.560 how depressing that seems because honestly when I Kickstart a lot of things I'm kickstarting it not 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:27.440 necessarily just because of what I get back from what I'm donating at a lot of 00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:30.359 games especially month or two after the release for a lot 00:40:29.040 --> 00:40:34.800 of these indie games are way cheaper than my Kickstarter price I'm kickstarting them because I want it to 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.880 happen yeah um but that doesn't mean that I have an investment in the company 00:40:36.160 --> 00:40:41.040 so then I mean maybe you're maybe you're happy about the Facebook thing because 00:40:39.560 --> 00:40:44.400 now it's going to happen even more and better supposedly I don't think there's 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:49.000 too many of those think but that's that's possible um another fairly 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:53.119 noteworthy rant to bring up this was a one that was fairly early on this was on 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:57.839 uh Reddit again a lot of this happened on Reddit um people just pointing out 00:40:55.640 --> 00:41:03.119 that holy crap John karmac is a Facebook employee now 00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:04.240 um go figure hey it's it's just weird to 00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:11.040 think about like I don't even know what to say like hurts my brain it's just like wait what what anyways but he's not 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:15.599 he is but he's not like he's he's working for Oculus I don't know whatever 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:18.880 um people posting Facebook is an advertising company they sell data so 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:22.920 that they're paying customers the advertisers can Target their marketing 00:41:21.200 --> 00:41:26.640 um and it wouldn't surprise it wouldn't surprise anyone if in a couple years you 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:30.599 won't be able to use it without supplying dat to Facebook wittingly or 00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:34.319 not eye tracking interest this part is me eye tracking what you're interested 00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:39.680 in and it's really easy to know if you're paying attention or looking at something when it's strapped to your 00:41:36.640 --> 00:41:42.920 face can you imagine how effectively you 00:41:39.680 --> 00:41:45.920 can sell ad Impressions or like how much 00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:48.160 more effectively uh graphic designers 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:53.200 could design their ads to make it so that you look at them and all the kind 00:41:50.560 --> 00:41:56.319 of subconscious crap that goes on that people don't even think about I mean 00:41:54.400 --> 00:42:02.240 when you go shopping at a store you ever notice there's like a double door in 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:04.359 like every store that is a psychological 00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:08.599 thing there's there's this there's this buffer zone between yeah it's called the 00:42:06.359 --> 00:42:12.680 decompression Zone not shopping and shopping that they have created very 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:18.280 intentionally you know what's funny is when I was a kid I always thought that 00:42:14.720 --> 00:42:20.280 it was like to keep the heat in or out I 00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:22.760 think that's what they say yeah but it's it's known to be a decompression 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:27.800 something there's other things too A lot of the tile in the middle of malls is shiny and then the tile in the stores is 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:31.720 not shiny where it's carpet or like that it often it's really Shin faster and 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:37.520 settle somewhere it's usually shiny in the middle of the mall and not super shiny in a store blah blah blah blah 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:41.119 blah it's very Bland smells that that they that they'll run through stores I 00:42:39.200 --> 00:42:47.280 mean all these things are designed to make you buy without even knowing why 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:49.920 you're doing it and uh eye tracking is 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:55.359 going to be a real good way to make that even more effective um that being said 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:59.400 it is there's there's a bunch of posts in Palmer's personal Reddit account that 00:42:57.640 --> 00:43:03.359 talks about this type of stuff and we'll be getting into that later again we're 00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:06.880 going through in Fairly linear lines keep going keep going they know we're 00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:10.480 getting into that later it's okay um so the community is mad about the change of 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:16.160 pace this was a fairly interesting one because messages that came from karmac 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:19.040 the CTO of oculus VR and a a very 00:43:16.160 --> 00:43:23.280 important dude saying stuff like for a certain segment of the population the 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:29.200 hacker slaker crowd this is going to be awesomely cool to work with that was the 00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:33.400 message before the message now is this 00:43:29.200 --> 00:43:34.480 being from um Brendan IRB I don't 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:40.880 actually know how to pronounce his last name that's really embarrassing the CEO of oculus VR saying We Believe virtual 00:43:39.160 --> 00:43:45.960 reality will be heavily defined by social experiences that connect people 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:49.240 in magical new ways that's very 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.559 different than the heartbeat kind of 00:43:49.240 --> 00:43:56.520 idea that was oculus before which is like yeah hackers and makers it's more 00:43:54.119 --> 00:44:01.319 social experience now which is interesting but then at the same use the 00:43:58.200 --> 00:44:02.760 word magical thank you Mr jobs yeah yeah 00:44:01.319 --> 00:44:06.800 this is a magical device at the same time though this is 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:09.920 two different people and if you talk to karmac he's still very gaming focused 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:13.520 and if you talk to Palmer he's still very gaming focused this is just quotes 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:20.000 that I got from a picture that someone posted on Reddit um Brendan while this 00:44:18.240 --> 00:44:23.800 this is a specific quote again this is this is grabbing snippet quotes grabbing 00:44:21.839 --> 00:44:28.440 snippet quotes isn't always applicable if you go talk to Brendan at if you go 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:32.800 watch some of his videos that he's been in at conventions a lot of time he talks 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:36.720 about gaming and some of them have been very recent they're still talking about 00:44:34.319 --> 00:44:40.040 gaming he's just talking about an idea that they haven't really expressed as 00:44:38.319 --> 00:44:43.400 much necessarily in the past so I'm not sure how much that matters but a lot of 00:44:41.640 --> 00:44:49.200 people were at up in arms about that something that was also really interesting was the are you done with VR 00:44:46.720 --> 00:44:56.240 straw pole that came up which ended up being huge um I'm done with oculus VR 00:44:53.559 --> 00:45:01.440 dead to me was one of the options that had 11 , 32 votes when I last looked at 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:07.319 it and was accounting for 50% of the votes um I I will withhold judgment for 00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:09.520 now and see how this plays out only had 00:45:07.319 --> 00:45:14.680 9,947 votes compared to the previous 11,000 and something ringing in at 45% 00:45:12.240 --> 00:45:18.680 of the vote okay that's helpful um and then the the the part the people saying 00:45:16.520 --> 00:45:23.599 they're okay with Facebook was only 4% which is 00:45:20.319 --> 00:45:26.359 like nothing um but then a lot of this 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:30.520 was need reaction this this this straw pull was created extremely early and I 00:45:28.839 --> 00:45:34.440 wish we could get every single person that responded on that to respond again 00:45:32.520 --> 00:45:38.400 and see how it would change I don't necessarily think the number of people 00:45:36.200 --> 00:45:42.200 saying that Facebook is okay would necessarily increase because no matter 00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:49.160 how you look at that look at this I don't think a ton of people are super stoked about the idea of Facebook um but 00:45:47.160 --> 00:45:52.559 I think more people would probably side with the I will withhold judgment for 00:45:51.040 --> 00:46:00.480 for now and see how this plays out because if you have to put your trust in anyone Palmer carac and all those 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:04.119 guys those are some people to put your trust in people have been describing 00:46:02.040 --> 00:46:07.760 karmac as the canary in the coal mine and I don't really know any better way 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:12.079 of actually saying that because that's a really good way of if he had a problem 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:18.079 with it then we'd know about it and I I guess at least we'll have a 00:46:15.640 --> 00:46:23.200 heads up when stuff's about to hit the fan because when karmac leaves 00:46:20.839 --> 00:46:26.000 Oculus then we'll there's your heads up there's your heads up and a Brash 00:46:24.640 --> 00:46:30.760 joining like that's another person to pay attention to and follow and honestly 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:36.800 if anyone can do it it's these guys so I hope they make it 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:38.319 because I don't know it's scary um then 00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:43.640 then things start happening like I actually hold on a second I actually created a new straw pole so we'd love 00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:47.200 for you guys to vote on this one I'm just going to post it in the chat a few 00:46:45.160 --> 00:46:51.079 times here so that you guys can see it only click the ones that are posted by 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:55.200 me because it's sort of a thing for people to just click make their own 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.599 straw Poes anyway so uh go ahead check that out we'd love to hear what you guys 00:46:56.599 --> 00:47:02.720 think and see how it compares to the original results okay go ahead Luke all right so 00:47:01.200 --> 00:47:07.480 next we're moving into we're still in kind of negative stuff so Oculus CTO 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:12.000 bailes on GTC due to illness now if you try to go to this thread it's not going 00:47:09.240 --> 00:47:17.839 to work oh okay it was pulled down by NVIDIA's Blog NVIDIA's blog was amazing 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.680 it's too bad we didn't uh did you like cop I don't have a screenshot or 00:47:19.200 --> 00:47:25.440 anything I I should have I should have thought about that but there's a new 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:29.680 post on NVIDIA's blog now actually where if you can find that I should put that 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:33.680 in here I was rushing near the end there's a new post saying like holy crap 00:47:31.680 --> 00:47:37.480 he's awesome because he ended up showing up ended up being a very last minute 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:41.760 kind of ditch effort kind of thing they got about 100 people there just like at 00:47:39.319 --> 00:47:45.240 the very last possible second and he ended up talking to them and it 00:47:43.040 --> 00:47:51.000 apparently it was great yeah here we go speaks at GTC yeah very very different 00:47:48.680 --> 00:47:55.480 than their previous article which was like begs off attendance blah blah blah 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:59.079 blah blah like super not stoked they're they're happy with him now but again 00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:04.520 this is this was playing into the negative feeling of the whole internet where everyone's like oh he's not ill 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:08.040 he's just trying to dodge our questions honestly I don't even necessarily think 00:48:06.200 --> 00:48:13.240 that was a thing he was very possibly ill because of how much crap has been 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:15.480 being thrown at them because like 00:48:13.240 --> 00:48:19.000 they've been busy it's the yeah I don't know I I doubt any of that team has 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:24.000 really slept much over not that you'd be able to relate to becoming ill because 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:27.920 no sleep and lots of work yeah yeah I think people can probably remember that 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:31.960 um although I bet you R Max fine cuz as far as I can tell he just like doesn't 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:37.000 care and is still programming which is kind of awesome um but the rest of the 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:42.839 team es especially Palmer you once we get to his Reddit posts he can oh man I 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:45.119 feel bad for Palmer anyways moving on to 00:48:42.839 --> 00:48:49.839 Notch's post so Notch posted on Twitter some people saw the retweet from me um 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:54.839 essentially saying that he has no intention of now creating a Minecraft 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:58.920 mod which he's planning on making an official one because he finds Facebook 00:48:56.799 --> 00:49:02.720 to be creepy uh you heard our quotes earlier from when he was on the Reddit 00:49:00.359 --> 00:49:06.720 thread he's been very vocal in this um so a direct quote is I did not chip in 00:49:04.839 --> 00:49:11.079 10 grand to seed a first investment round to build value for face for a 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:14.119 Facebook acquisition another quote is I definitely want to be a part of VR but I 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:19.200 will not work with Facebook their motives are too unclear and shifting and 00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:22.280 they haven't historically been a stable platform there's nothing about their 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:26.799 history that makes me trust them and that makes them very seem very creepy to 00:49:24.319 --> 00:49:31.960 me um now before we get into those comments I want to jump forward and to 00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:36.240 the scumbag Oculus meme kickstarters Edition um which is just kind of 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:41.960 interesting and plays into what Notch was talking about we'll talk about that in a second um and Palmer's post when 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:45.799 Palmer bounces back at Notch for posting that by saying things like he had the 00:49:43.640 --> 00:49:50.480 rift for over a year and hasn't even tried The Unofficial Minecraft mod um at 00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:54.359 least at the point of Palmer posting that which is I'm assuming based on 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.920 information from when Notch visited that office before the Facebook acquisition 00:49:56.480 --> 00:50:04.319 and he said it's easy to cancel a project that was never even really started anyways he has Merit in both of 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.319 those points 00:50:05.319 --> 00:50:12.040 but okay I don't think a lot of comments that people have been pointing at him um 00:50:09.839 --> 00:50:16.240 coming from people like cliff balinsky and coming from uh even Palmer himself 00:50:15.359 --> 00:50:21.240 and a whole bunch of people on the internet and the guy that posted this Facebook post originally are necessarily 00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:23.760 that accurate they're calling him childish and feeble and all this other 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.400 kind of stuff um whether or not it's because he 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:32.960 just doesn't feel like doing the project and he wants to cancel it that doesn't seem very true necessarily especially 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:36.839 when he's saying I definitely want to be a part of VR I will but I will not work 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.799 with Facebook he does kind of seem like he wants to be a part of VR I'm going to 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:43.599 have to take what he's saying on face value he seems pretty legit in the past 00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:47.599 um it does seem like he's doing it on moral reasons he doesn't like Facebook 00:50:45.359 --> 00:50:50.880 so he's canceling the project that doesn't make him childish just because 00:50:49.359 --> 00:50:55.359 he doesn't like something he doesn't want to work with someone I I don't 00:50:53.640 --> 00:50:59.119 necessarily agree with that but then again that's up to you to make make that 00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:04.119 decision being childish might be taking it public you could always just cancel 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:07.640 the project and not say that's very true and of something jumping on the Reddit 00:51:06.160 --> 00:51:11.240 post and jumping on Twitter and making it a huge deal that could have been a 00:51:09.359 --> 00:51:15.599 childish action but I don't think necessarily like that like the whole Fez 00:51:13.200 --> 00:51:19.640 2 cancellation thing oh yeah would that have been less drama if he' just canel 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:23.680 it instead of saying I'm canceling it because you guys are so mean to me yeah 00:51:21.680 --> 00:51:27.119 maybe and that's that's a very good point I don't think the fact that he 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:31.040 canceled it is childish maybe the way he went about it you can decide whatever 00:51:28.839 --> 00:51:34.599 the heck you want about that that's just something to throw there so here's our 00:51:32.319 --> 00:51:41.280 new straw pole so uh there's been a major shift the major shift in the uh in 00:51:38.240 --> 00:51:45.760 the perception here so we had 300 votes 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:48.119 for Oculus is dead to me and a full 65% 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:52.480 actually okay so 76% of you are either okay or withholding judgment which 00:51:50.599 --> 00:52:01.359 interesting a massive shift and good timing because now we get into the shift 00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:03.359 um um where Reddit um our own Community 00:52:01.359 --> 00:52:09.559 Twitter a lot of these different communities the the the voice that was 00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:12.200 most heard is now changing to stop 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:15.599 attacking them let's wait and see all that kind of stuff instead of like 00:52:13.839 --> 00:52:21.839 direct and sometimes personal attacks and threats to people like ridiculous 00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:23.680 which is not okay um okay moving on so 00:52:21.839 --> 00:52:28.640 blah blah blah blah blah the hate the the Hate Now directed at those attacking 00:52:25.200 --> 00:52:30.200 Oculus quotes from this are to to jump 00:52:28.640 --> 00:52:33.319 to personal attacks in an emotional tantrum Masque way and Abandon Ship 00:52:32.040 --> 00:52:38.160 without actually realizing where this deal will go that's that's a pretty good 00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:42.960 quote and true to what a lot of people did I got extremely sad I'm sure people 00:52:40.520 --> 00:52:46.240 saw my Twitter account um but that was mainly when I was getting stuff from The 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:50.559 New York Times saying that they're going to Rebrand everything and um a lot of 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:54.520 the other information basically saying Oculus is dead that was depressing but 00:52:52.640 --> 00:52:58.760 once I found other things not nearly as sad um and another quote there saying 00:52:56.520 --> 00:53:02.880 say chill and let's wait and see let's all wait and see which I think is yeah 00:53:01.520 --> 00:53:08.280 that's what I'm doing at least I'm going to wait and see I'm still very interested no matter what I'm not done 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:11.280 with VR from you know this and a lot of my friends back in high school that I 00:53:09.520 --> 00:53:16.319 forced to try it including my girlfriend who didn't care at all but was a good 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:18.119 sport about it um back when I bought Nia 00:53:16.319 --> 00:53:22.200 my neural impulse actuator but I don't care I know it's 00:53:20.799 --> 00:53:26.000 new ways of interacting with computers this has always been what I've cared about most and I find this incredibly 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:31.480 interesting so whether or not it ends up being ocul I'm still totally in for VR 00:53:28.839 --> 00:53:39.200 um Cliff balinsky weighs in this was interesting 00:53:35.799 --> 00:53:40.920 um I wasn't as interested as in this as 00:53:39.200 --> 00:53:46.640 many other things but it is still fairly interesting because he gained a lot from 00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:50.160 this whole situation he was a really big early on investor and something that 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:54.440 people have been attacking Oculus over is why the kickstarter people weren't 00:53:51.839 --> 00:54:00.480 allowed to be investors that's like us law that's not Ulus wasn't like yeah no 00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:03.640 let's just give them dk1 instead of uh shares in the company that's just how 00:54:02.160 --> 00:54:07.240 things work they can't change how the United States works so you can attack 00:54:05.680 --> 00:54:12.799 them over different things but that's not really going to it doesn't matter 00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:14.559 that no U but he was he's an accredited 00:54:12.799 --> 00:54:18.799 investor or whatever the heck so he's able to do this kind of stuff um and he 00:54:17.200 --> 00:54:22.680 brings up some interesting points and some stuff that's scary and I hope never 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:27.799 happens so he brings up the fact that Facebook has a multi-million user reach 00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:32.559 and as people notice with Mark's promoted post he probably didn't pay for 00:54:30.040 --> 00:54:36.319 that he can probably push advertisements in a lot of different places getting a 00:54:34.200 --> 00:54:39.680 lot of different eyes on board without paying for it and quotes coming in 00:54:38.319 --> 00:54:44.760 earlier on where we were talking about how Facebook is losing a certain audience and saying like oh but that's 00:54:43.359 --> 00:54:49.440 the audience that's going for Oculus Rift right now yeah okay so they already 00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:54.880 have those people they don't necessarily need those people from Facebook what 00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:57.440 they can gain from Facebook is the 00:54:54.880 --> 00:55:02.119 multibillion user reach of people that don't know what the heck Oculus is y um 00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:06.799 they can push that out they can talk to all those people so that's that's good 00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:10.680 um he goes on to talk about WhatsApp and Instagram like we've talked earlier 00:55:08.240 --> 00:55:14.359 though but I think we share the same opinion which is like dude we haven't 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:20.119 had enough time to see that happen at all at all like come on especially 00:55:18.359 --> 00:55:25.599 WhatsApp like are you kidding me and we haven't seen Instagram falter in any way 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:30.480 and so we haven't seen how Facebook will react when one of their Acquisitions is 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:35.520 all of a sudden not looking like a great acquisition anymore do they just slash 00:55:33.520 --> 00:55:39.160 the entire work force do they like we've seen Google do um a lot of people are 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:43.839 saying why didn't someone like Google buy it that would have been worse that would have been scary that would have 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:48.079 been really scary because if it doesn't do well for a second Google's just be 00:55:45.520 --> 00:55:50.799 like LOL okay bye and then they own all the patents and they'll do something 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:55.640 completely different with it and that might be really cool too 00:55:52.760 --> 00:56:00.119 yeah but Google doesn't seem to necessarily care too much about what 00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:05.359 they acquire and Google operates on their own in their own Dimension 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:10.000 sometimes like they're and it's both great and terrible sometimes but they're 00:56:07.680 --> 00:56:14.480 they're thinking about things 10 years from now 20 years from now and they're 00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:19.000 because they just don't really care about making money on it today they 00:56:16.680 --> 00:56:23.039 might just let it sit there behind closed doors in development for another 00:56:20.680 --> 00:56:27.880 10 years whereas with Facebook they've been pretty clear hey no the Oculus Rift 00:56:26.319 --> 00:56:32.760 for gamers is still coming you're going to get the iterative the iterative 00:56:30.319 --> 00:56:36.119 hardware that comes on the way to us building our grand vision of it Google 00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:41.799 doesn't always do that yeah you you could see they built a self-driving car and just put it on the road yeah and it 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:46.960 was amazing and then they were like okay cool it's like since when if we heard 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:50.000 anything about that it's like obviously safe they've totally proved that it's 00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:54.039 safe and then they're like all right in the garage um and that could have easily 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:59.599 happened with this too you we could have seen DK2 come out or not it's Google who 00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:06.720 the heck knows and then cv1 consumer version one could have come out in like 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:08.160 2020 or something like L 20 K KP screen 00:57:06.720 --> 00:57:14.319 or whatever we have by that point who knows um uh one thing that he brings up 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:18.680 the the like oh now we're just going to get Farmville VR and stuff like that 00:57:16.839 --> 00:57:23.240 like I I touched on that earlier when I was talking about the negative points I 00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:27.400 said oh my God Farmville 3D and Facebook popup updates 00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:31.520 everywhere I really really don't think so no I think it'll be more subtle I 00:57:29.319 --> 00:57:35.839 mean I think what they'll do is they'll offer game developers options like this 00:57:34.200 --> 00:57:39.920 is the way this is the way I could see it working maybe not step one and not 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:44.200 step three where it's like family reunions are all done through Oculus VR 00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:48.280 but like a step one and a half or two where think about in-game advertising 00:57:46.359 --> 00:57:52.359 the way it's done now where there might be um like all of the uh oh crap I 00:57:50.839 --> 00:57:56.640 forget what game did this was it Battlefield 4 where they had like um 00:57:54.839 --> 00:57:59.400 Coke vending machines and you couldn't knock them over they were like the one 00:57:58.319 --> 00:58:03.319 thing in the game that wasn't destructible and like I don't remember I 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:08.960 don't remember what game it was but it was like vending machines but so in-game 00:58:05.359 --> 00:58:11.720 product placement Facebook could offer 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:17.960 Oculus developers so Developers for VR games the option to build advertising 00:58:15.160 --> 00:58:22.079 into their game as a way to monetize their platform they could throw seed 00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:26.720 funding at them if they're willing to deliver that and this could be a way for 00:58:24.319 --> 00:58:30.760 us to if we're willing to put up with a little bit more advertising which I 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:34.839 think people have proven time and time again that they'll protest about it but 00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:39.680 much like taxes they'll just suck it up every time um and they won't vote with 00:58:37.720 --> 00:58:44.319 their wallets until maybe we get to a Breaking Point and but we haven't seen 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:45.760 it yet I'm I'm interested to see what ad 00:58:44.319 --> 00:58:49.680 block does about this I'm interested to see what Adblock does about this but 00:58:47.520 --> 00:58:55.200 that could be a great way for us to get more VR content yeah at least for now 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:58.839 and support Developers for maybe freeo play that isn't necessarily 00:58:56.720 --> 00:59:04.119 microtransaction driven um I'm going to actually tangent for just a moment here 00:59:01.799 --> 00:59:09.760 and talk about Bravely Default the game that I just recently started playing 00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:11.799 would I have rather seen some like well 00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:16.319 integrated product placement in Bravely Default versus what they've done with 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:19.799 sleep points so sleep Point um turn based combat just like a Final Fantasy 00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:27.319 game basically except you can okay I'm not going to get into the combat mechanics so sleep points allow you to 00:59:24.680 --> 00:59:31.039 interrupt turn-based com and act at any time so you can earn them either by 00:59:29.160 --> 00:59:35.160 leaving the game on with your DS in sleep mode plugged in presumably so it 00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:39.960 doesn't drain the battery uh for eight hours per sleep point or you can buy 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:45.960 them and so basically you can buy the ability to like go until the enemy dies 00:59:43.520 --> 00:59:50.039 kind of thing that to me is a lot more obnoxious than something like a little 00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:56.240 bit of Tastefully applied in game advertising so like yeah anyway okay go 00:59:53.799 --> 01:00:00.400 ahead go ahead uh and he has a point in however they end up doing it who knows 00:59:58.200 --> 01:00:05.000 personally I would like the I don't mind product placement to be completely 01:00:01.640 --> 01:00:07.440 honest ad blockus com from some twitch 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:11.200 chat and like okay another thing that Cliff blinsky brings up is the 01:00:09.200 --> 01:00:15.359 possibility of uh some sort of proprietary system which everyone 01:00:12.799 --> 01:00:19.799 freaked out about and he's hopefully completely wrong in super off Bas 01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:23.960 because that's super dumb yeah um but another thing that came out of that was 01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:29.240 the possibility of like maybe when you boot up your computer you load like the 01:00:26.319 --> 01:00:33.799 Oculus store or something and the Oculus store is kind of like steam but has VR 01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:38.760 capable games you can buy other stuff like that and there could be other applications that's the idea of this 01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:42.880 whole system or even an Oculus store from within Steam much like the way 01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:48.160 we've seen NVIDIA integrate their Tegra Zone store within Android that allows 01:00:45.680 --> 01:00:51.200 you to shop the Google Play Store but a tailored version of the Google Play 01:00:49.640 --> 01:00:56.160 Store I'd be totally okay with that and it makes sense because steam's actually been fairly or valve has been fairly 01:00:54.319 --> 01:00:59.520 recently talking about allowing different companies to have their own 01:00:57.319 --> 01:01:03.000 stores on Steam so that makes an incredible your cynical your cynical 01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:07.839 take on that was maybe they just don't feel like managing it anymore yeah maybe 01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:10.559 they're just like ah they can just do whatever the heck they want we'll still 01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:14.400 scrape all the money and it's fine whether or not you think that's positive 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:18.119 or negative uh that could allow something like Oculus to have their own 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:21.960 compatibility store essentially there and then maybe you can if if that's a 01:01:20.640 --> 01:01:27.280 thing maybe you could unofficially inject OC what what was it called ad 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:32.319 blocus Oculus yeah maybe you could integrate that in some way um I don't 01:01:30.359 --> 01:01:37.760 know the cliff binsky thing is really long and I preferred other sorts of 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:44.280 information all right so Mark Zuckerberg's actual post on Facebook I 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:46.839 think clarified a lot um so I'm just 01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:50.720 going to go ahead and post this now this this is interesting because a massive 01:01:49.160 --> 01:01:54.559 amount of people as far as I can tell don't really trust Mark Zuckerberg even 01:01:52.799 --> 01:01:59.520 if they like Facebook really so 01:01:56.520 --> 01:02:00.680 this despite being kind of positive for 01:01:59.520 --> 01:02:04.400 the people that may have been negative in the beginning a lot of people have 01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:07.680 been pretty sketchy about but it's interesting nonetheless and hopefully we 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:11.599 can hold them to the things that he says in here so here we go yeah hopefully 01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:16.079 there's some accountability so he he starts off by 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:20.480 saying um immersive gaming will be first and Oculus already has big plans here 01:02:18.160 --> 01:02:24.359 that won't be changing and we hope to accelerate I don't even care what side 01:02:22.359 --> 01:02:27.960 of the fence you're on that's good um like this has happened we can't reverse 01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:32.799 it now we have to take the good that we can um and that is good we're focusing 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:36.160 on helping Oculus build out their product and develop Partnerships 01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:40.839 supporting more games to support more games so again we're going to have to 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:45.480 move a little faster here at 6 oh God I didn't realize this show was essentially 01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:47.640 over already um Oculus will continue 01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:50.440 operating independently within Facebook um and they want to achieve that blah 01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:54.920 blah blah whether or not that ends up becoming a thing or not although right now it does seem like it's going to be 01:02:53.319 --> 01:02:59.160 and I'm sure carac would have a ton to say if that doesn't stay being a thing 01:02:56.720 --> 01:03:04.920 so we'll see how that goes um I'm trying to skip over things uh there's just some 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:10.119 he he talks about potential uses I'm not going to directly quote this because ites I already talked about it earlier 01:03:08.160 --> 01:03:14.240 yeah okay yeah okay so let's move on just all the 01:03:12.200 --> 01:03:17.319 potential uses yeah yeah we talked about things like using it as a way to connect 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:21.760 with other people and yeah but he also brings up like medical applications Stu 01:03:19.200 --> 01:03:26.400 court side seats at games something that I've talked about that I'm really 01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:29.000 excited about with VR already y um okay 01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:32.640 so so then we move on to Palmer's Reddit and this is incredibly long and already 01:03:31.200 --> 01:03:36.720 chopped down a lot despite the fact that we're going to be skipping a bunch of things so I actually recommend going to 01:03:35.319 --> 01:03:42.000 his user account and checking his message log because it is very interesting and a really easy way to 01:03:39.200 --> 01:03:44.799 track the whole conversation um he's been asked a whole bunch of questions so 01:03:43.279 --> 01:03:48.559 these are some answers you will not need a Facebook account to use or develop for 01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:52.799 the rift that will not be a thing he has said that so far of course he's no 01:03:50.839 --> 01:03:59.160 longer running the entire company so it's kind of a problem but I'm sure 01:03:56.200 --> 01:04:04.720 there you would know anyways um people have been this is a little bit 01:04:01.640 --> 01:04:06.240 messed up anyways uh people asked if I 01:04:04.720 --> 01:04:09.880 ever see Facebook branding on anything that's not optional I'm done he says 01:04:08.200 --> 01:04:14.279 that's not really reasonable in a literal sense but he understands what 01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:18.160 the guy is trying to say um I think that comment spouted from the Facebook 01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:22.920 branding on the Oculus idea not necessarily yeah not necessarily like a 01:04:20.279 --> 01:04:27.720 Facebook style the Oculus App Store deal something like that I'm not I'm not sure 01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:29.400 that was a little bit Shady anyways um 01:04:27.720 --> 01:04:33.000 if I see any ads on anything that I've already paid for I'm done Palmer says 01:04:31.520 --> 01:04:37.760 which makes a ton of sense that's a developer decision they're not going to be injecting things necessarily it's not 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:41.160 their decision if someone wants to sell a game with built-in ads they will have 01:04:39.680 --> 01:04:47.160 to deal with the natural consequences of you not buying it he didn't say that you're not buying it part but yeah um 01:04:44.839 --> 01:04:54.400 just promise me we there will be no specific Facebook tie-ins um he says I 01:04:50.200 --> 01:04:55.799 promise which is good um he he talks 01:04:54.400 --> 01:05:00.359 about it more it's saying would would you rather me sell to someone like Microsoft or apple so they can tear the 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:04.799 company apart use the pieces that we have to build their own vision of virtual reality we talked about this 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:08.720 earlier um one that fits their current strategy they have not a chance so you 01:05:06.839 --> 01:05:14.359 can tell that he believed in this acquisition at least some amount um the 01:05:12.520 --> 01:05:18.119 key points that he brings up too is we can make custom Hardware we brought this 01:05:16.160 --> 01:05:21.000 up earlier y um we can afford to hire everyone we need we brought this up 01:05:19.319 --> 01:05:24.760 earlier we're going to talk about this l a little bit further on and we can make 01:05:22.720 --> 01:05:30.039 huge investments in content so the only thing that I've really seen the do in a 01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:31.480 big form was EVR Eve virtual reality 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:35.640 Valkyrie which looks amazing so hopefully there's more of that kind of stuff in the 01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:39.160 future um another thing that you should go read into is Carmax tweets again I 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:43.720 guess I'm not going to jump into these too in depth because this show could probably go on for four hours um and 01:05:42.359 --> 01:05:50.279 I'll just talk about it more in the Afterparty so be sure to show up for that 01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:53.319 um I like karmac Carm is a really good guy and one of the things that he posts 01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:57.640 up on there let me go to his Twitter real fast um 01:05:57.839 --> 01:06:05.079 was I would expect Facebook not to exert any o overt control over Oculus unless 01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:09.359 Oculus fumbles badly a few times at which point they should that kind of 01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:12.880 makes sense um and he asks people what are the hazards what should be what 01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:17.039 should be done to guard against them and what are the tests of failure blog and 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:20.400 I'll read so if you guys have opinions talk about it and they will pay 01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:23.559 attention that's very cool anyways jumping forward off of Carmax tweets we 01:06:22.240 --> 01:06:30.079 talked about some of those early on as well Oculus hires Michael AB crash this 01:06:26.640 --> 01:06:31.799 is huge and this I think honestly there 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:35.799 there was already a Twist towards the positive yeah and then this happened and 01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:40.720 then everyone was just like so this was today yeah like huge positive outcome 01:06:39.160 --> 01:06:44.520 when this happened uh some people freaking out saying that now valve is 01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:48.200 ruined but I don't think valve ever intended on releasing anything anyways 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:53.200 yeah so I think it makes a lot more sense that he's now working for Oculus 01:06:50.680 --> 01:06:58.200 um so he was working on VR at valve for context yeah uh AB Brash and and carac 01:06:56.359 --> 01:07:01.240 worked together in the past on some really big things and they're both very 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:08.039 happy that they're coming back together which is really cool um they met in 1994 01:07:05.160 --> 01:07:12.119 1995 and worked on stuff like Quake which is kind of a huge deal I'm going 01:07:10.640 --> 01:07:17.119 to skip over a bunch of this again yeah let's just go ahead and post the link here you guys should definitely check 01:07:14.520 --> 01:07:21.760 this out yeah it's the thread on on Oculus is actual website so now people 01:07:20.279 --> 01:07:27.200 have been talking about canceling their pre-orders and I don't know what I'm 01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:29.079 going to do uh next topic are Riot um 01:07:27.200 --> 01:07:32.559 starting in 1 minute you guys got another minute to do that because of the 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:37.240 delay uh any more of that you will be perab banned and we are not lifting 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:39.400 bands anymore so give it a rest um do 01:07:37.240 --> 01:07:42.279 you want to cancel your terms or sorry do you want to cancel your order there's 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:46.640 terms that we can post that'll be in this doc um are you sure you want to 01:07:45.359 --> 01:07:50.000 cancel though there's been a lot of people trying to cancel and then trying 01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:53.359 to stop their cancel so they can keep their spot in line you can cancel your 01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:56.599 pre-order before it's shipped so you have a while still so don't worry about 01:07:55.200 --> 01:08:00.760 canc immediately if you're thinking about it you can kind of sit on that 01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:03.640 topic or just go and cancel it although careful because it's an email 01:08:02.160 --> 01:08:08.119 cancellation it's not like an automated one so it might take a little while for them to reply just hold in there yeah 01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:13.799 and you'll lose your spot in line and you'll lose your spot in line um something interesting to bring up is the 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:18.000 photo of their like Facebook kind of thing that they had at their old HQ 01:08:15.839 --> 01:08:22.920 which if you zoom in really closely says warning Facebook may cause loss of time 01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:27.120 poor work ethic obesity social disorders and possible interference of Destiny use 01:08:25.080 --> 01:08:32.719 it your own risk and then the Facebook thumbs up which is hilarious goes to 01:08:30.759 --> 01:08:39.440 show you just what their attitude was towards Facebook the website if not 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:42.719 Facebook the company yeah um oatmeal made a joke we're basically at the end 01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:48.880 now oatmeal made a joke about this apparently a year ago which I'd never seen until earlier today which was 01:08:46.440 --> 01:08:52.799 talking about um strapping Facebook to your face essentially if you actually go 01:08:50.759 --> 01:08:56.600 look at it there you go there we go um so he talks about essentially like how 01:08:54.600 --> 01:09:02.159 the world around me is so very very loud it begs me to slow down to sit down 01:08:58.799 --> 01:09:02.880 introducing Facebook for your face I 01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:08.279 like it and then saying eventually we'll just 01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:11.679 like lay down and die which is kind of hilarious and then yeah oal I'll talk 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:16.520 about it more in the after party but that's essentially what happened you're going to talk about this more on the 01:09:14.719 --> 01:09:23.480 Afterparty I just skipped like probably half so when the news first came out we 01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:26.000 uh we knee-jerk reaction we created this 01:09:23.480 --> 01:09:31.719 shirt and it wasn't ready because District I think it kind of applies kind 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:34.159 of slow sometimes so here's the shirt um 01:09:31.719 --> 01:09:37.839 so it just says it's it's an Oculus eye so it's actually it's not even the 01:09:35.480 --> 01:09:41.560 Oculus eye it's just somewhat similar because we don't want any trademark 01:09:39.480 --> 01:09:45.759 infringing things on a shirt like this uh so it just says I dislike Facebook in 01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:51.560 the context of the stuff that's happened over the last couple of days so District Lines took a while for this shirt to 01:09:48.440 --> 01:09:53.960 come out and so by now so much positive 01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:58.760 news has come out around it that I think neither Luke nor I are feeling quite as 01:09:57.080 --> 01:10:02.760 down about the whole thing it's not being completely re anyways yeah so now 01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:06.679 like like there were concerns like they were going to reand Rebrand it based on 01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:12.719 that New York Times article which still hasn't been pulled down no which is 01:10:09.280 --> 01:10:15.440 interesting to me anyway um so if you 01:10:12.719 --> 01:10:19.480 still feel strongly about the whole thing if we sell like 50 of them then 01:10:18.040 --> 01:10:25.960 I'll still print it otherwise I'm going to cancel the order and I think that cost me like 15% restocking fee but I I 01:10:24.120 --> 01:10:30.199 it doesn't feel as relevant to me anym things have literally changed a lot has 01:10:28.679 --> 01:10:33.600 changed since we created this shirt another way to look at it I'm probably 01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:38.640 still interested in kind of getting one is I still like Oculus and I still don't 01:10:36.480 --> 01:10:42.679 like Facebook I disliked Facebook before this whole situation and I still dislike 01:10:40.360 --> 01:10:47.560 Facebook that doesn't change so if you guys want it order it if you don't we're 01:10:45.360 --> 01:10:52.520 not making it so there you go doesn't matter okay and now everyone can Rejoice 01:10:49.719 --> 01:10:59.480 because the Oculus topic is over and we're moving into our sponsors for today 01:10:56.440 --> 01:11:01.239 so sponsor number one hey we're got oh 01:10:59.480 --> 01:11:05.600 that's the wrong one well it's still Intel but slightly more different so 01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:10.800 lonus Media Group is going to PAX East it's going to be Luke and Brandon and 01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:15.679 this is mostly just a call out did I say Brandon I can probably go talk to them 01:11:13.080 --> 01:11:20.560 there to where who what Oculus they'll be at PEX East yes they will so Luke and 01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:24.760 Brandon will be there covering the show there will be actually I feel this is a 01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:29.719 good opportunity to promote this there will be a buildoff between the one and 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:36.280 only slick PC and the one and only Paul's Hardware so Paul from new.tv they 01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:38.960 will be doing a PC build 01:11:36.280 --> 01:11:44.440 Showdown and I can't promise that there won't be any H Jinks or Shenanigans 01:11:42.440 --> 01:11:50.000 throughout the entire thing both the lonus Media Group and New Egg TV crws 01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:55.239 will be filming the event and it will be streaming live on Twitch TV due to a 01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:59.199 partnership between Newegg and Twitch TV TV and of course we love Twitch TV as 01:11:57.719 --> 01:12:03.000 well we happen to be streaming there right now although I don't have to 01:12:01.120 --> 01:12:06.920 endorse Twitch TV in any way maybe I'll just say negative things about them just 01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:11.400 in case JN is watching right now twitch sucks John um anyway so twitch will be 01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:16.520 streaming it live which means that there will be no opportunity for any hij Jinks 01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:22.000 to be not streamed hink now everyone knows that 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:25.199 something anyways no maybe nothing will happen maybe I'm just trying to get them 01:12:23.320 --> 01:12:29.520 to watch so that I get my big fat p check from Intel it could it could be it 01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:36.360 could be that overt so anyway guys stay tuned uh our 01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:40.120 other sponsor is Hotspot Shield and Hotspot Shield has kind of an 01:12:37.719 --> 01:12:45.719 interesting thing going on right now they want you to design their new slogan 01:12:44.280 --> 01:12:49.600 so I'm just going to see if I can actually find it dang it I should have 01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:53.920 had the link ready before but Hotspot Shield is allowing you to come up with a 01:12:52.520 --> 01:13:00.159 new slogan and what they're doing is they are giving away a bunch of elite 01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:03.159 accounts as a way to promote the contest 01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:05.920 so uh Hotspot Shield is the easy way to 01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:10.560 set up a VPN their Elite service in particular is the one we recommend the 01:13:08.400 --> 01:13:14.760 complaints that I've seen about Hotspot Shield on the form or wherever else tend 01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:19.679 to be about their ad supported free version and let's just do a brief 01:13:16.639 --> 01:13:22.719 rundown of how a VPN works and why you 01:13:19.679 --> 01:13:25.480 have to pay for one because it's 01:13:22.719 --> 01:13:32.080 basically triplicating the amount of data being transferred back and forth if 01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:33.560 you go to a website instead of Hotspot 01:13:32.080 --> 01:13:37.040 Shield or instead of you just communicating directly to the website 01:13:35.080 --> 01:13:39.800 well I guess duplicating sorry okay so instead of you just communicating 01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:44.080 directly to the website there is an intermediary Hub and that's going to be 01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:48.400 Hotspot Shield server so you send data to them they forward it to the website 01:13:46.080 --> 01:13:51.520 and then it goes that way back again so sorry doubling doubling the data being 01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:58.080 sent back and forth so that means there is an actual bandwidth cost associated 01:13:55.239 --> 01:14:03.480 with a VPN that's all there is to it a VPN that is free will be ad supported or 01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:06.679 supported in some other way so unless you're paying for it you are going to be 01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:11.440 stuck with some kind of intrusive ad service so that's why I recommend using 01:14:08.719 --> 01:14:16.120 offer code Linus to get 20% off Elite it's super easy to set up and vpns allow 01:14:13.639 --> 01:14:19.920 you to um hide who you are and where you're from from the websites that 01:14:17.639 --> 01:14:23.400 you're visiting because all the traffic looks to them as if it's coming directly 01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:28.080 from Hotspot Shield it allows you to circumvent geographical restrictions in 01:14:25.480 --> 01:14:32.480 this way so if you wanted to watch you know us content and you're in the UK or 01:14:30.360 --> 01:14:36.239 UK content you're in the US all you do is configure Hotspot Shield to tell the 01:14:34.679 --> 01:14:41.400 website where you're from somewhere other than where you're actually from you can go ahead and get around things 01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:45.840 like firewalls or censorship so that's one of the things that's really good for 01:14:43.120 --> 01:14:51.679 and I have finally located the link for the redesign the slogan contest so you 01:14:48.719 --> 01:14:56.159 can go ahead and it's actually on Facebook LOL someone is also telling me 01:14:54.080 --> 01:15:00.679 that the contest is apparently over no I think it runs till April 4th all right 01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:04.280 something like that well then I guess they're wrong I don't know I just saw 01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:09.120 someone in the twitch chat be like the contest is over by the way yeah I don't 01:15:07.040 --> 01:15:14.280 know anyway okay well they told me April 4th I guess if it's over tell you what 01:15:11.440 --> 01:15:18.639 if it's over guys let me know and I'll arrange some giveaway Elite codes anyway 01:15:17.040 --> 01:15:23.040 and we'll do like a giveaway on the form or something cool so there you go my 01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:26.800 misunderstanding could turn into free Hotspot Shield accounts we actually did 01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:30.480 a giveaway a little while ago uh so guys try try out the uh the trial you don't 01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:36.080 actually have to start paying for it right away you can just get a trial at 01:15:32.360 --> 01:15:37.639 bit. lehs share and uh if you like it 01:15:36.080 --> 01:15:41.000 then let us know and we'll we'll see if we can arrange for something to happen 01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:47.679 even if I might have totally screwed that up all right so moving into our 01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:52.840 next topic here that is not 01:15:47.679 --> 01:15:55.520 Oculus Titan z d the card that everyone 01:15:52.840 --> 01:16:03.239 was super unhappy wasn't a game you know what I don't even okay Titan Z 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:06.120 is moderately interesting and people are 01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:12.960 upset that NVIDIA is branding this as a gaming card but be okay yes it says 01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:15.520 GeForce yes it has Titan branding the 01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:22.239 most recent of which to contain that branding was marketed sort of as a 01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:25.120 gaming card but this is not a gaming 01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:29.440 card Jensen came right out and said said this is for people who want a 01:16:26.360 --> 01:16:32.280 supercomputer next to their desk it is 01:16:29.440 --> 01:16:36.480 it it it doesn't make any sense for a gamer to buy a Titans Z he didn't say 01:16:33.719 --> 01:16:40.360 that part because you know I think his statement was more along the lines of I 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:44.159 mean if Gamers want to buy it then great uh then then great but I mean Titan's 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:49.800 been selling like hot cakes but it's mostly intended for Cuda developers the 01:16:46.120 --> 01:16:51.960 only advantage of Titan over something 01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:56.400 like GTX 780 Ti so we're talking about the single GPU versions is the double 01:16:54.360 --> 01:17:00.840 precision performance of Titan which is only useful in a production environment 01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:05.239 a coding environment double Precision doesn't mean your games run more 01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:09.280 accurately no game takes advantage obviously aim better yeah you'll aim 01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:13.400 better so you combine that with Aimbot with and a sniper button and like U 01:17:11.400 --> 01:17:20.800 Flames painted on the side of your PC why not speed holes speed holes so Titan 01:17:17.280 --> 01:17:23.760 Z is not a gaming card why is it $3,000 01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:29.560 it's $3,000 because the kind of work it is intended to be used for would allow a 01:17:27.280 --> 01:17:34.520 budget of $3,000 to spend on a compute card for it that's why it has 12 gigs of 01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:40.320 RAM so 6 gigs per GPU and it's intended to allow a higher density of gk10 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:47.199 Graphics cores to be installed in a single machine in a desktop type work 01:17:43.679 --> 01:17:50.040 environment it is not a gaming card but 01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:56.639 because it happens to be GeForce and it will use GeForce drivers you can game on 01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:59.679 it if you want a quad SLI gk10 01:17:56.639 --> 01:18:01.560 experience you'll just have to pay more 01:17:59.679 --> 01:18:08.239 but that same experience would be available to you if you bought four GTX 01:18:04.320 --> 01:18:11.480 780 Ti for a grand total of 01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:14.040 $2,800 and that would cost you six grand 01:18:11.480 --> 01:18:17.920 in Titan Z's and you will get the same performance unless you really need the 01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:22.679 six gigs of frame buffer per card in which case you could still buy four 01:18:20.120 --> 01:18:27.600 Titans and water cool them and spend like $1,500 less anyway 01:18:25.679 --> 01:18:30.120 it's not a practical solution it wasn't intended to be the internet needs to get 01:18:29.320 --> 01:18:35.639 over it um oh there's a couple things so for 01:18:33.080 --> 01:18:39.040 context uh oh wait so yeah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah old Titan was 01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:47.360 something I think Anon Tech is estimating that it'll be clocked at around 700 MHz based on the uh based on 01:18:44.360 --> 01:18:49.440 the Giga flops or Tera flops or whatever 01:18:47.360 --> 01:18:53.920 that NVIDIA is quoting uh so that would be well below the performance of the 01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:58.360 Titan black So Not only would that other solution be cheaper it would also 01:18:56.120 --> 01:19:05.360 perform better considerably faster this is something that really just kind of I 01:19:02.400 --> 01:19:11.080 part of me is outraged and part of me is like yeah this makes sense ASUS has a 01:19:08.679 --> 01:19:19.199 gaming branded b85 board so this is an Intel 01:19:15.679 --> 01:19:22.560 LGA 1150 board it supports you know four 01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:25.280 dim slots supports dual graphics cards 01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:30.719 it's got better onboard sound and like like it's got like a gamer 01:19:27.480 --> 01:19:35.199 friendly color scheme it's not cold but 01:19:30.719 --> 01:19:39.159 it is not overclockable the b85 chipset 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:40.960 does not support overclocking at 01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:46.480 all so I would love to see you guys hit us 01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:50.960 up with a straw pole here this current audience is going to like this too much 01:19:48.480 --> 01:19:54.920 I don't think they will either but I have I have okay our discussion though 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:57.679 while we wait for the straw pole results is that there's probably a large amount 01:19:56.360 --> 01:20:02.320 of people that aren't going to overclock and want to buy a gaming board is your 01:19:59.960 --> 01:20:06.679 is your CPU overclocked actually technically right now it is okay own 01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:11.000 Well mine's not I know and mine wasn't not that long 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:12.880 ago it doesn't really matter right now 01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:17.080 my graphics card is definitely overclock when Star Citizen 01:20:14.360 --> 01:20:22.960 launches I will overclock the snot out of my CPU my graphics card is 01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:26.600 overclocked like crazy but I don't like 01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:28.639 yeah no not my CPU not so there you go 01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:32.840 that that's that's the that's the cold hard truth is not every gamer is an 01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:37.280 overclocker and Enthusiast and for so long overclocking boards were lumped in 01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:42.000 with gaming boards because the Assumption was that Gamers were Tweakers 01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:48.360 but most of the hardcore Gamers I know are not that into the hardware well my 01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:50.920 re hardore Gamers not like my reason is 01:20:48.360 --> 01:20:55.840 I have a profile locked in for my CPU that I have multiple profiles actually I 01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:58.600 have my like my stock um my like low 01:20:55.840 --> 01:21:02.719 overclock medium overclock and like ridiculous overclock and I have it 01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:06.440 currently on like a medium which is not really pushing it that hard right 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:10.800 because my ridiculous one is insane but when stares and starts really pushing my 01:21:08.400 --> 01:21:12.710 computer I'll just be like click l but then the lifespan of that CPU is going 01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:18.960 to go because I'm pushing it way too hard 01:21:16.679 --> 01:21:23.480 and I know that all right NVIDIA looks beyond Maxwell This was posted on 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:28.159 Hardware conu so actually for a while they were saying volto was coming after 01:21:25.360 --> 01:21:32.320 Maxwell but now they have removed Volta from the road map and replaced it 01:21:30.080 --> 01:21:38.600 instead with Pascal which is going to deliver unified memory 3D memory and NV 01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:43.120 link and I'm actually not sure which is the most interesting out of all of these 01:21:40.400 --> 01:21:46.440 things so 3D memory has been talked about for a while it's going to be 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:49.520 instrumental with Pascal NVIDIA claims they will be able to provide several 01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:53.560 times greater bandwidth which is going to be incredibly important for 01:21:51.120 --> 01:21:57.800 Resolutions Beyond 1080p they're saying more than twice the memory capacity and 01:21:55.800 --> 01:22:03.920 quadruple the Energy Efficiency and when you look how energy efficient uh Maxwell 01:22:00.679 --> 01:22:06.960 is already we could be looking at some 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:09.679 seriously powerful Hardware in very 01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:12.800 small spaces powering like cloud gaming experiences within the home or whatever 01:22:11.320 --> 01:22:18.560 else the case may be talked about that a lot last week um the other big one to me 01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:21.760 is Envy link so here's a little picture that's also courtesy of Hardware conu 01:22:20.440 --> 01:22:26.600 thank you hardware conu for posting this I love you Mike um showing what Envy 01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:31.320 link will be exactly so we're not necessarily expecting Envy link to 01:22:29.280 --> 01:22:36.719 replace oh you guys can't see that part of the graphic I'm sorry there we go 01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:40.480 really okay well whatever my mouse my mouse is here so there's a little PCIe 01:22:39.040 --> 01:22:45.760 link labeled here so it's not going to replace PCI Express or anything but Envy 01:22:43.280 --> 01:22:52.080 link will be an efficient way for the gpus to communicate with each other so 01:22:49.080 --> 01:22:55.080 it would replace the current SLI Bridge 01:22:52.080 --> 01:22:58.080 much like AMD has done with XDM a on 01:22:55.080 --> 01:23:01.679 their R9 series cards on the very very 01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:04.400 highend the r9290 series cards but um 01:23:01.679 --> 01:23:08.639 this will augment PCI Express allowing the gpus to communicate with each other 01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:14.280 and again not just for Crossfire or SLI type dual Graphics functionality but 01:23:11.159 --> 01:23:15.679 instead for compute functionality giving 01:23:14.280 --> 01:23:20.320 them a much more efficient means of working together we there uh NVIDIA is 01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:26.360 saying this is going to be twice as efficient as PCI Express 3.0 and they 01:23:23.040 --> 01:23:30.159 call it feeding the app appetite for Big 01:23:26.360 --> 01:23:31.800 Data so um you know how much better 01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:35.960 could graphics cards work together in terms of frame pacing or whatever else 01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:40.239 if they had super high-s speeed interconnects if they had you know 01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:44.679 double the memory bandwidth or several times the memory bandwidth to work with 01:23:43.159 --> 01:23:47.760 well Al also hopefully this will help with just chopping and general 01:23:46.480 --> 01:23:52.320 crappiness that comes along with multiple GPU setups yep so that maybe we 01:23:50.719 --> 01:23:56.800 will all kind of embrace it more and that's probably what they're going for 01:23:53.960 --> 01:24:04.719 so hope way better all right so more bad news for Bitcoin um vercure X has just 01:24:02.040 --> 01:24:07.840 gone insolvent that was about four days ago so they're basically the funny thing 01:24:06.800 --> 01:24:13.120 about what they're doing is at least they're being a bit more communicative about it than Mount goau was but they're 01:24:10.679 --> 01:24:19.560 saying okay well we can either just shut down now because we're like out of 01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:22.159 Bitcoins or we can try to continue 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:25.520 operating and then like pay that back slowly but if we just shut down now 01:24:24.480 --> 01:24:29.840 we're just not going to be able to pay it back at all and then one of the 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:37.320 advantages of Bitcoins up till now is that taxation on them hasn't been very 01:24:32.080 --> 01:24:40.600 clear well new IRS rules in the US um 01:24:37.320 --> 01:24:43.360 anyway are now considering Bitcoin 01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:48.239 property so now it's property so you will pay taxes on it in much the same 01:24:45.280 --> 01:24:53.440 way as you would another investment or Capital assets such as well property so 01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:58.480 land or anything else like that so a payment made using virtual currency will 01:24:55.600 --> 01:25:02.760 be subject to information reporting to the same extent as any other payment 01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:07.920 made in property I don't know if you guys know this but technically if here 01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:13.400 in Canada anyway if you make a deal with someone that is a barter agreement so if 01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:18.560 I say uh you know I I'll fix your computer to a plumber and the plumber 01:25:16.040 --> 01:25:24.960 says okay I'll fix your sync we should both be reporting and paying taxes 01:25:21.280 --> 01:25:27.800 correctly on the face value of what 01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:31.920 those Services would have been the laws are very clear about this so 01:25:29.719 --> 01:25:36.360 cryptocurrency has existed on this sort of we don't know what to do with this 01:25:34.280 --> 01:25:40.280 Cloud for a little while that's not the thing that's going to be happening 01:25:38.280 --> 01:25:45.040 anymore all right which isn't to say that it will necessarily be enforced 01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:50.360 everywhere it just means that you'll be legally responsible for it not having 01:25:47.440 --> 01:25:54.639 been enforced portals coming to Shield which there's not a whole lot else to 01:25:51.880 --> 01:26:00.000 really say about this other than it's happening now NVIDIA's been saying hey 01:25:57.320 --> 01:26:05.000 guys we're going to deliver last gen console grade experiences on handheld 01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:10.480 they've been saying that for well it's happening now cuz portal that's a last 01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:15.880 gen console game and valve will be porting it to Android um so their their 01:26:14.280 --> 01:26:18.639 blog post is actually pretty darn interesting you guys should have a read 01:26:17.280 --> 01:26:23.560 of it later on I'm just going to post this in the twitch chat boom you guys 01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:29.239 should check that out very very cool um not that relevant to me or really to 01:26:26.080 --> 01:26:30.960 anyone in general who owns a shield 01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:36.480 necessarily because you already have game stream which is definitely a good 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:40.480 enough experience to play portal with I played through the entirety of Portal 2 01:26:38.679 --> 01:26:44.280 on NVIDIA Shield using gam stream I didn't touch my PC for the entire game 01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:51.480 actually quite enjoyed it I just finished it did I tell you that yeah yeah really good obviously nothing 01:26:48.719 --> 01:26:56.000 compares to portal one um it's good though like I couldn't have 01:26:53.960 --> 01:27:00.000 really asked for much more nope good game and then the Steam Workshop makes 01:26:57.480 --> 01:27:05.679 it so epic cuz you can just download custom maps I don't even really enjoy 01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:09.960 solving portal puzzles that much you just like the story line I just really 01:27:07.440 --> 01:27:17.760 enjoyed the the atmosphere and the humor and the story um GLaDOS is a fantastic 01:27:14.080 --> 01:27:19.159 character U with or without Caroline so 01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:22.560 yeah really really enjoyed it no one wants to hear about ancient games though 01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:28.239 more about Shield so here are the release notes of their upcoming firmware 01:27:25.719 --> 01:27:32.000 update or well oh what the hell is this oh I guess this is old release notes 01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:36.080 where you'll can stay tuned in a few days there are going to be some new 01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:40.040 Fantastic release notes because shield in the short nine or 10 months or 01:27:38.480 --> 01:27:45.600 however long it's been on the market has evolved significantly from kind of a 01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:49.480 Nifty Android gaming device that had this weird like PC streaming feature in 01:27:47.639 --> 01:27:54.719 beta that actually worked pretty well at launch but is better now to something 01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:58.239 that is a very compelling gaming platform compared to pretty much 01:27:56.639 --> 01:28:03.000 anything else that you could buy from a handheld gaming perspective so now on 01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:07.960 top of game stream on top of um The teger Zone store where you can buy teger 01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:11.520 optimize games game stream Works outside of the house NVIDIA has said on the 01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:16.600 conference call that we were no you weren't on it I was on it you had to 01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:17.920 talk to New Egg TV H anyway I was 01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:26.880 talking to NVIDIA while he was talking to New Egg TV that's just even I'm sorry but like 01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:28.719 that just doesn't even sound cool um so 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:33.719 NVIDIA is saying you're going to need a strong mobile network connection or 01:28:31.719 --> 01:28:37.239 whether you're on someone else's Wi-Fi like if I'm at the office here and I 01:28:35.639 --> 01:28:41.280 want to game stream something at my house you're going to need 5 megabit up 01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:45.159 and down in both places for optimal communication between the devices or I 01:28:43.480 --> 01:28:50.000 mean they've even said you could do it on you know 4G LTE um but you're going 01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:54.520 to need 5 megabit up and down on both ends for a good experience and the way 01:28:51.719 --> 01:28:59.080 it works is pretty similar to grid beta have you tried that yet grid beta yeah 01:28:56.840 --> 01:29:03.840 no I asked you last week it's on your Shield already oh no I wiped it before I 01:29:01.639 --> 01:29:07.440 gave it to you okay check it out try grid beta I also have to install that 01:29:05.440 --> 01:29:11.960 access point though so streaming from NVIDIA's servers down in California to 01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:18.080 here works like you can play Street Fighter um so anyway game stream Works 01:29:15.320 --> 01:29:22.840 outside of the house uh wake on land and remote login support is coming so this 01:29:20.440 --> 01:29:26.800 is a great feature for people who don't want to leave their PC on all the time 01:29:24.639 --> 01:29:32.320 or like the number of times I've been in bed and I'm like yeah I want to fire oh 01:29:29.400 --> 01:29:36.920 my computer's asleep get up and go turn it on and Vlog in and go back to bed and 01:29:35.480 --> 01:29:44.480 play my game it's like well if I wanted to get up I would have gone and played on my computer so that's being addressed 01:29:42.320 --> 01:29:50.360 could you install mobile team viewer on your yeah I could but just like La um 01:29:48.400 --> 01:29:55.719 and that wouldn't help with wake on land all right no notebook GPU support is 01:29:53.440 --> 01:30:00.639 coming so you'll be able to game stream from your GeForce Kepler based GPU 01:29:58.440 --> 01:30:04.159 laptop which is very exciting for folks who have notebooks Bluetooth keyboard 01:30:02.440 --> 01:30:07.440 and mouse support is coming in console mode the new teg rone has been 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:11.239 redesigned to help you find compatible games even better although I almost 01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:15.520 never touch Android games on it they all kind of suck I mean no offense to 01:30:13.400 --> 01:30:18.560 Android games but like compared to PC games that I can play on the thing my 01:30:17.080 --> 01:30:24.119 shield almost never leaves my home I just play PC games on it um it's going 01:30:21.040 --> 01:30:25.639 to get Android 4.4 Kit Kat uh better FPS 01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:28.679 and bit rate controls much like what valve has been adding to inhome 01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:31.400 streaming you're going to be able to say Okay I want this bit rate I want this 01:30:30.280 --> 01:30:35.480 FPS and you're going to have much more granular control they have a better 01:30:33.400 --> 01:30:38.760 Gamepad mapper with a more intuitive UI so you can take Android games if you 01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:44.040 play them and then you can remap your buttons to the screen and an even better 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:46.000 way and for a limited time it's only 200 01:30:44.040 --> 01:30:50.600 bucks so for a month NVIDIA Shield is $200 and at that price I think it's a 01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:54.639 great value I would buy one I'll say that outright I've even just watched 01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:57.360 videos on it it's a lot easier to manage especially while you're in bed than your 01:30:56.040 --> 01:31:02.360 phone oh yeah we haven't talked about this is it a tablet yeah I use it like a 01:31:00.280 --> 01:31:06.280 tablet because I was able to just like kind of prop it up and you've never even 01:31:04.360 --> 01:31:08.960 been sold on the whole tablet concept well I'm still not sold on the whole 01:31:07.440 --> 01:31:14.679 tablet concept but another thing that I'm really excited for is when Hearthstone gets moved to tablets and 01:31:12.080 --> 01:31:19.080 phone phones um so that I can install it on my shield that'll make Shield so much 01:31:17.360 --> 01:31:22.440 better cuz Hearthstone I've always been like this is really cool but I want to 01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:26.320 be playing something a little bit heavier while I'm at my computer and 01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:29.800 this cuz this is just weird whereas if you're like just in bed if I'm just like 01:31:28.320 --> 01:31:34.360 chilling but can't sleep yet it's like all right play a card game like hearstone hearst's fun it's just 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:39.560 freaking awesome I'm sitting on my computer I'm just like I love Shi for $200 that's a no-brainer for me um okay 01:31:38.719 --> 01:31:45.800 so NVIDIA also talked a lot about directx12 01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:50.280 on the call and some of this stuff was uh pretty relevant so I I teased this at 01:31:48.080 --> 01:31:54.840 the beginning of the show but uh mantle support is not coming to NVIDIA gpus 01:31:52.639 --> 01:32:03.159 near you no matter how open AMD makes the platform um and I don't care 01:32:00.040 --> 01:32:05.880 anymore the mantle hype train like I 01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:09.480 think it was to me both you know what I'm going to criticize both of them 01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:13.400 right now AMD really mismanaged the mantle hype train in much the same way 01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:19.199 that NVIDIA has mismanaged the g-sync hype train both really cool Technologies 01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:23.960 looked really important talked about way too early no follow through no follow 01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:29.840 through yet I mean g-sync monitors are coming but g-sync monitors need to be 01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:33.880 ubiquitous every monitor needs to be a g-sync monitor anything branded to 01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:37.880 Gamers needs to be a g-sync monitor and pricing needs to be reasonable and we 01:32:35.360 --> 01:32:41.000 might see that in a year or two years um and then mantle same thing it needs to 01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:47.679 be everywhere or it's not going to make a at launch yes so um NVIDIA made some 01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:54.360 really interesting points about directx12 so 79% of the DirectX 11 gpus 01:32:52.800 --> 01:33:00.000 according to the steam service survey support direct X12 while 39 no it was 01:32:57.880 --> 01:33:04.679 less than that I thought it was like 11% support mantle or something oh no 39% of 01:33:02.480 --> 01:33:08.280 the direct X1 gpus no that math isn't right okay these are old notes I'm sorry 01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:13.800 uh they updated the numbers but it was like much much lower support mantle and 01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:18.760 uh star they're saying star swarm is better with the new 780 Ti DirectX 01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:23.560 drivers than the 290x with mantle so there's a new driver coming um are those 01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:29.040 really properly compared gpus they are not quite but it depends on the pricing 01:33:26.119 --> 01:33:33.800 of 290x and it's enough only in North America is that really happening it's 01:33:31.080 --> 01:33:38.280 enough better than 29x that even at MSRP they're about equal in terms of price to 01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:42.480 Performance so if directx12 or even DirectX 11 updated driver can be equal 01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:46.080 to what AMD is already delivering with mantle in Star swarm I was saying the 01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:49.880 other way around though 78 TI is unproportionately expensive is it not no 01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:56.159 cuz it performs a little better and it's a little more expensive than a 290x 290x 01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:58.239 is 600 780 Ti is around 730 is it really 01:33:56.159 --> 01:34:02.320 everywhere uh no this is just based on the lowest prices I could find for both 01:33:59.679 --> 01:34:06.600 of them on New Egg yeah but what I'm SRP though that's not jacked up prices yeah 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:10.040 it's all good everything's okay so if they can deliver the same performance 01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:17.400 with the new directx11 driver that AMD can deliver with mantle on a admittedly 01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:20.040 mantle optimized Benchmark and directx12 01:34:17.400 --> 01:34:25.639 is going to improve things even further then um yeah Unreal Engine 4 will 01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:30.719 support DirectX 12 and NVIDIA says they've been working on directx12 for 4 01:34:28.040 --> 01:34:35.080 years so this isn't a knee-jerk reaction for Microsoft like ignoramuses like us 01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:40.520 might have assumed when we went oh I guess they're talking about direct X2 so 01:34:37.679 --> 01:34:46.040 early because they're reacting to mantle um nope not so much so there you go guys 01:34:44.480 --> 01:34:50.880 whatever ends up happening we're probably all going to be gaming on Windows for the foreseeable future 01:34:49.280 --> 01:34:57.679 unless I mean a lot of good news came out about openg last week as well um 01:34:54.719 --> 01:35:02.080 or somehow mantle figures things out or I don't 01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:04.159 know I think we're probably going to be 01:35:02.080 --> 01:35:09.159 pretty much done here let's do two more so our better than Bieber segment this 01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:14.560 week we need music that goes along with 01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:17.040 this is that the Titanic 2 is coming to 01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:21.960 uh actually no it's real it's not it's not it's not a movie it's not a game 01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:30.520 this was kind of weird new cruise ship to be built by Centric uh billionaire 01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:32.119 Clive Palmer and will be as his has 01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:37.960 accurate to the experience of the original Titanic as makes sense or 01:35:35.320 --> 01:35:43.119 probably more so so the third class passengers will be in like cramped 01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:48.080 horrible rooms before be below water level and the first class passengers 01:35:45.639 --> 01:35:54.239 will be in these opulent beautiful mahogany covered rooms just like the 01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:57.280 original Titanic um 01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:59.880 Palmer did when when asked about unsync 01:35:57.280 --> 01:36:04.440 ability hold on say let's just see if I yeah when asked if about unsn ability he 01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:08.800 did not go as far as to call it Unsinkable a jinx famously applied to 01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:15.239 the original vessel anything will sink if you put a hole in it Palmer joked uh 01:36:11.679 --> 01:36:17.840 and they are expected to um to set sail 01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:22.719 in 2017 the ship is currently being built in China it's kind of I don't even 01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:29.440 know what to think about it if you were going to go on a Cruise no I don't care 01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:35.320 at all okay you were going to go on a cruise would you go on a cruise on a 01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:37.040 Titanic replica no okay CU I'm going to 01:36:35.320 --> 01:36:41.520 pay so little that I'm going to get stuck in that crapshoot underwater level 01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:45.840 and I'm going to hate it I'm not going to care about the experience of living 01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:49.880 in like essentially a jail cell at the bottom of a boat and I'm just going to 01:36:47.719 --> 01:36:54.480 be like this is super dumb is it that different from working here no 01:36:55.639 --> 01:37:04.159 all right really important law change in the UK dis media ripping will be 01:37:01.199 --> 01:37:11.280 legalized this summer in the UK this was posted on the Forum by methus szo and 01:37:09.199 --> 01:37:15.520 the UK government has published a guide informing consumers that an upcoming 01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:21.520 revision of copyright law will legalize CD and DVD ripping for personal use 01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:30.760 good that wasn't even a slow clap I'm sorry if that came across that was a 01:37:28.040 --> 01:37:34.880 like very satisfied that was like this should have happened 100 billion years 01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:39.480 ago the original source is torrent freak here um it's coming into effect in the 01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:44.040 June July time frame and the law is still very clear that if you make a 01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:49.239 backup it is for personal use it is not for you to put on a you know like server 01:37:47.599 --> 01:37:53.679 that you rent somewhere and then give everyone in your dog access to that's 01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:57.159 not what this law change is intended for you can still sell your physical media 01:37:55.639 --> 01:38:02.880 but you will be expected to delete all of the backup copies you're still very 01:37:59.199 --> 01:38:05.320 much expected to buy media but you will 01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:09.719 be allowed to play it back on any device you 01:38:06.280 --> 01:38:11.159 own this is so weird right now like some 01:38:09.719 --> 01:38:15.000 of the laws going around about this because like you buy a song and then 01:38:12.880 --> 01:38:20.000 it's like the only medium you can play it on iTunes is iTunes or like if you 01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:24.159 buy a physical copy of the disc in a lot of places it's like good luck carry on a 01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:28.199 CD player with you like they're like no you can't copy it 01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:32.639 to MP3 player cuz that's another copy and it's like what the hell is even 01:38:30.599 --> 01:38:37.199 happening I'm happy that something like this stepped in I mean people do it 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:41.480 anyway like it's going to happen but you might as well legalize it so we can stop 01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:46.800 seeing discussion on it about it anymore and like what's his name's mom going to 01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:49.440 jail for 80 billion doar because her son 01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:54.119 downloaded five songs like this is just stupid well that's different that's 01:38:51.599 --> 01:38:57.760 we're we're not talking py downloaded then copied off of his own thing it 01:38:55.880 --> 01:39:01.280 doesn't matter the same thing happens yeah we're tired of this whole thing and 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:06.599 people that didn't actually do anything wrong wrong I mean I I I think there's 01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:10.840 still going to be some debate because what about families is my wife allowed to listen to 01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:16.440 my song but then like your wife is allowed 01:39:13.040 --> 01:39:17.800 to wear your shirt yes but the law says 01:39:16.440 --> 01:39:25.440 it's for personal use and they specifically say not to give friends access is my wife my friend are my kids 01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:27.880 my friends I don't know I mean valve is 01:39:25.440 --> 01:39:32.560 opening up Family Sharing for games which is really cool which is really 01:39:29.400 --> 01:39:36.239 cool but that doesn't mean that this law 01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:38.080 allows like you know if I if I play this 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:41.520 song at a party is that a public demonstration did I own the rights for 01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:46.599 that like all that stuff is still very gray area in terms of ownership but you 01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:51.199 know like when because they specifically say if you have like a Nas you can't 01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:55.679 give your friends access to it and to to to play back this media yeah but like 01:39:53.840 --> 01:40:03.040 my family is going to have access to my NZ yeah so so that's weird all right 01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:09.520 well I think that is pretty much it for the show this week um I was planning to 01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:11.080 do my first impressions of the HTC1 M8 01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:16.400 but I think we've somewhat run out of time I will have a review coming so far 01:40:14.360 --> 01:40:21.599 I'm actually pretty impressed with some things that I wasn't expecting to be 01:40:18.679 --> 01:40:27.719 impressed by I have 42% battery on it having used it quite heavily normally my 01:40:24.199 --> 01:40:29.960 old one runs out during the show because 01:40:27.719 --> 01:40:35.159 I'm using navigation to like go run errands on my way back from NCI and I'm 01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:39.199 on my phone like constantly at NC because I don't bring out my computer 01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:43.080 there to you know read the the document for w show and all that kind of stuff 01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:50.599 and I have 42% right now which is pretty impressive the camera is actually quite 01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:52.800 strong um in spite of the lack of people 01:40:50.599 --> 01:40:55.840 asking for straw pull results but do you even have that link still yeah I 01:40:54.159 --> 01:41:00.080 probably do actually I'll I'll grab that sorry about that guys um the camera is 01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:03.679 really really strong the build quality feels even more solid I think it's going 01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:07.480 to be a bit of a mixed bag in terms of how people perceive it when I went to 01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:12.760 the Bell store last night to get a nano okay I guess I'm doing my first impressions of the M8 all right so when 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:14.520 I went to the Bell store last night um I 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:19.320 I said I needed a nano SIM and they were and they were like oh why do you need one of those did you get an iPhone and I 01:41:17.159 --> 01:41:22.840 was like no I it's for um this and I pulled out of my pocket like everyone in 01:41:20.920 --> 01:41:28.560 the store who worked there was like and like ran over and came and looked at it 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:34.320 and the reaction was very positive there to the metal um seamless backing uh 01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:38.159 whereas some people are complaining that it's too slick and almost plasticky 01:41:36.639 --> 01:41:43.080 looking like I showed it to someone at NC today who was like oh well why would 01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:47.000 they take metal and make it look and feel as much like plastic as they 01:41:44.719 --> 01:41:50.599 possibly could overall the construction in the flex of the phone is a very 01:41:49.360 --> 01:41:54.719 strong point for it so the metal construction is definitely doing something it's just whether whether or 01:41:53.400 --> 01:41:58.239 not you prefer that or not it's up to you it is a little bit bigger which I'm 01:41:56.800 --> 01:42:03.880 finding a little bit awkward right now as I go through that transition period 01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:05.639 again but it's only about3 in um the 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:10.440 voice quality on it is outstanding I I usually comment on voice 01:42:08.679 --> 01:42:14.760 quality in my reviews and I kind of say well it's a phone you put one end to 01:42:12.599 --> 01:42:18.599 your face and the other end to someone else's face and there's a wireless link 01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:22.800 between them or something um and it sounds all right but this one really 01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:28.320 blew me away with how good people sound uh through the hand through the handset 01:42:25.719 --> 01:42:32.920 uh blink feed has I I quite like Sense 6.0 so far it's really subtle they 01:42:30.760 --> 01:42:37.880 haven't it doesn't feel that different from the stock Google UI really and 01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:43.159 maybe part of it is that I started out with sense whereas a lot of people 01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:44.840 started out with with other skins but I 01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:49.760 I quite like it it doesn't get in my way at all and they've added a few little subtle things like the double tap to 01:42:47.719 --> 01:42:54.400 wake up is there now there are some gesture controls that right now are a 01:42:51.480 --> 01:42:58.599 little bit hit or miss so for example if you lift it up and then press the volume 01:42:57.280 --> 01:43:03.000 button there you go that launched the camera but it doesn't work 100% of the 01:43:00.599 --> 01:43:06.440 time uh camera modes again very very cool so you can do things like um here 01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:10.080 I'm going to show you guys this because it's actually like quite neat okay so 01:43:08.599 --> 01:43:14.320 here I'm going to get Jake the dog behind you there okay and then I'm going 01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:19.520 to get up and refocus that so you guys can actually see this so some of 01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:23.159 the yeah just going point the mic at myself so some of the camera effects 01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:27.880 that you can do are kind of neat so let's just see what 01:43:25.360 --> 01:43:32.840 the there we go all right so here's a picture of this guy so we're going to go 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:37.040 ahead and edit the picture so their refocusing feature it's not perfect but 01:43:35.360 --> 01:43:42.119 check it out so I could focus on Jake the dog if I felt like it there you go 01:43:39.599 --> 01:43:45.480 and it it detects reasonably well what's in the foreground with those dual 01:43:43.599 --> 01:43:48.800 cameras in the front that's kind of neat you can only really apply one effect at 01:43:47.239 --> 01:43:53.199 a time which I was a little bit disappointed with but you can go and you 01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:56.880 can apply like effects to the background obviously they're going to need to add 01:43:54.520 --> 01:44:02.360 more than four of them to make this worthwhile as a feature um but I mean we 01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:06.400 saw them add more things with their uh with their Gallery viewing features in 01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:11.480 the past some of the stuff is just kind of goofy like let's put like blossoms 01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:16.840 all over him or something but this is neat so they have kind of like a 01:44:13.040 --> 01:44:21.000 parallax effect so you can see a 01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:22.599 little it's mostly faked but it still is 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:27.159 like kind of neat you can see the boxes behind them kind of like stuck to his 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:33.239 head there a little bit so so there's that um and then I haven't actually 01:44:29.280 --> 01:44:35.480 tried touch-up yet but let's uh let's do 01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:42.599 anti-shine yeah that's a face okay done I don't know if that did 01:44:39.080 --> 01:44:44.080 anything okay well either way um I think 01:44:42.599 --> 01:44:46.280 the biggest challenge whoops we're out of 01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:56.760 focus I think the biggest challenge for the M8 is going to be the price because 01:44:53.080 --> 01:44:59.000 a year ago or two years ago um $700 for 01:44:56.760 --> 01:45:04.480 a flagship phone was like okay that's how much a flagship phone costs whereas 01:45:01.280 --> 01:45:07.280 now with the Nexus 5 at $350 for the 01:45:04.480 --> 01:45:11.119 equivalent memory model you better be delivering $350 of additional value and 01:45:09.719 --> 01:45:15.679 the fact that it's missing wireless charging to me is a huge knock against 01:45:13.679 --> 01:45:19.800 it especially because we're still using micro USB we're still stuck with the 01:45:17.480 --> 01:45:24.119 standard and the micro USB port recently failed on my one which I've only had for 01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:29.000 about a year that's a good point micro USB ports failing strikes again for 01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:32.320 lonus because he has like the worst luck ever or he's a terrible person or 01:45:30.760 --> 01:45:36.320 whatever whatever your perception of micro USB might be it doesn't work very 01:45:34.360 --> 01:45:40.119 well for me and wireless charging is a really good way to not have to wear out 01:45:38.400 --> 01:45:43.920 the connectors on your phone unnecessarily the screen is absolutely 01:45:42.400 --> 01:45:49.080 beautiful but we've come to expect that from HTC like it's really good even 01:45:47.440 --> 01:45:52.520 though the pixels per inch the the actual pixel density is slightly lower 01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:57.080 than the old one because of the larger screen 1080p resolution it looks 01:45:54.480 --> 01:46:01.800 absolutely beautiful it's extremely Snappy um I guess that's pretty much all 01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:08.719 I have to say for now so there you go all right oh I like 01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:11.560 their new uh sound scheme sound scheme yeah like the the noises it makes when 01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:16.280 you like do things like Samsung's like super stupid 01:46:14.119 --> 01:46:21.760 one HTC's was always okay I like the new one even better cool thank you guys very 01:46:19.639 --> 01:46:26.639 much for tuning into to the WAN Show this week I hope you enjoyed it as much 01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:29.040 as we did w show Oculus Edition coming 01:46:26.639 --> 01:46:33.239 to a theater near you if you thought this was great and you need to see more 01:46:30.400 --> 01:46:38.480 news on Oculus maybe we can do a full featurelength Oculus W show and we well 01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:44.840 I'm I'm going to be talking about in the after because we only actually got 01:46:40.679 --> 01:46:47.360 through the like what happened part we 01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:51.080 didn't even get to do the our thoughts part so I'm going to be talking about a 01:46:49.400 --> 01:46:54.320 bunch of stuff in the Afterparty pretty much the entire Afterparty is going to 01:46:52.400 --> 01:46:58.560 be about Ulus so if you want to see anything that's not about Oculus peace 01:46:56.440 --> 01:47:03.199 out don't bother show up uh guys here's the straw po result that we uh talked 01:47:01.159 --> 01:47:06.400 about earlier I'm interested yeah I'm interested too I actually I posted it in 01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:10.960 the thread but I haven't actually clicked it yet there we go I'm assuming 01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:17.159 so results all right so not overclocked is 01:47:15.080 --> 01:47:24.719 39% look at that hand overclocked greater than 1 GHz 01:47:20.320 --> 01:47:26.920 is 22% Auto overclocked is 7 1% so both 01:47:24.719 --> 01:47:31.320 of those folks will not really be able to do anything with a B series chipset 01:47:29.239 --> 01:47:37.599 hand overclocked greater than 500 mehz hand overclocked and underclocked so 40% 01:47:34.639 --> 01:47:42.880 of you won't give any cares about a b85 board that has all the gaming Centric 01:47:40.159 --> 01:47:46.360 features without any of the overclocking Centric features even though those two 01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:50.400 things have been one and the same for so long fascinating yeah that is actually 01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:54.119 really interesting cuz I still want the option so that I can and I still do do 01:47:52.960 --> 01:48:00.679 it I just don't necessarily run it all the time I just switch my profile fairly actively I just moved to Ive which I've 01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:03.920 never overclocked before so I'm going to I'm going to be playing around with that 01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:09.639 once I take my system home oh my personal rig update is done being edited 01:48:06.719 --> 01:48:12.320 it's half an hour long did I tell you how long it it's more than half an hour 01:48:11.080 --> 01:48:17.960 expected it would be at least it's like 35 minutes and it has the most B- roll 01:48:15.040 --> 01:48:24.239 we've ever shot for a video yeah how how what was the data size on that again uh 01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:27.480 hey Brandon are you still here yeah uh 01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:28.239 how many gigs of b-roll did you shoot of 01:48:27.480 --> 01:48:36.000 my system 86 86 gigs of b-roll and that's 01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:38.480 in prores 1080P it is going to be our 01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:41.000 most beautiful video ever um something to note actually I don't know if you 01:48:39.719 --> 01:48:47.320 guys have noticed this but if you go back and look at our last couple of Corsair case reviews we are using a new 01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:52.119 recording setup it's still on the Sony fs700 but it's actually using an 01:48:49.599 --> 01:48:57.920 external recorder that allows us instead of record Rec in at 1080p to record at 01:48:55.159 --> 01:49:02.400 4K to the internal recorder and then down sample to 1080p with a much better 01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:07.119 codec that retains a lot more of the image information so we're using prores 01:49:04.280 --> 01:49:10.880 now instead of abch HD I personally noticed a big difference in the 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:14.119 sharpness and detail of the footage but I haven't really seen anyone comment 01:49:12.320 --> 01:49:19.920 about it so you guys should let me know if you actually noticed my how much did 01:49:17.639 --> 01:49:26.360 that stupid thing cost 01:49:21.719 --> 01:49:29.520 yeah 2500 bucks apparently nobody even 01:49:26.360 --> 01:49:30.840 noticed but but we're not quite at the 01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:36.920 limit of its capability there's a firmware update coming that will allow us to record in 4k and then we will 01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:42.440 start releasing all of our videos in 4k so yeah yeah that's been coming for so 01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:46.040 long though I know I bought a 4K capable camera a year and a half ago and it's 01:49:44.480 --> 01:49:48.920 still not able to actually do it and still not able to actually well it could 01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:53.800 be if I was willing to spend like $99,000 on Sony's solution which is 01:49:51.199 --> 01:49:58.360 ridiculous yeah no like not even as good right yeah it's not as flexible yeah so 01:49:56.440 --> 01:50:07.129 that's stupid all right peace out guys we'll see you next week bye everybody