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all right and we're live you guys know what it was this is hilarious it was uh

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freaking reason I can't even begin to Fathom this stuff it's too complicated

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stupid don't know anything but these people are all

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listening to me what does that make them wow what's with okay we need to start

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talk depressing everything's depressing I know I'm whenever the show is laid

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depressed I was talking to him about this offline and I'm like I know you

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guys hate it when the show is late we hate it when the show is late too

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because like I feel personally responsible for all the hours of time

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that are being wasted while people sit and wait for us and that's terrible and

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in this room and we we don't touch it other than to live stream that's how far

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we went to make sure that our show was on time for you guys and yet here we are

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and we still have these issues and I'm really really sorry but enough of that

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let's get this thing started shall we the big news this week is obviously

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like confirmed W show acquired by Facebook no not so much our setup would

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have probably worked if we had that much money and you know what that's one of

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the positive things to take away from this whole thing we're going to get into it in more depth later but we do have

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some other initial topics here that I just want to sort of throw at you guys

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that we will be talking about so NVIDIA had a call earlier this week where they

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no they also pushed a big update for NVIDIA SHIELD this week which is a huge

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deal allows things like off off-site game stream uh so we'll get into more

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details on that later but like three good luck scrolling through the document

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yeah four five pages of our document are all Oculus this week so it's going to be

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kind of a big deal NVIDIA also launched the Titan Z Bitcoins are now considered

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property and without further Ado let's get this intro done so we can get this

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road whoa what's that we're going to paxi sponsored by Intel and forair also

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mean those are I guess the main benefits of a VPN you can probably stop Facebook

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from tracking you yeah and you can do all that relatively inexpensively and

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easily all right so let's get into our first topic here let's just do something

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before like the train wreck of the let's

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do one topic I don't even think so you don't even think so you want to get okay

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let's do this thing I honestly just think we jump right into okay so I the

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role of lus over the next um 45 minutes

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or so will be played by um I'm going to

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go get Jeff so you you go ahead and get started you have input on this do I you

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talked to me a little bit Jeff has input too okay and I'm not letting you make

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Jeff's voice not heard I did murder him earlier no literally n okay well as all

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of you know at this point I'm sure and if you don't how what I no um so Oculus

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was acquired by Facebook for $400 million cash and what equated to a total

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with that cash of $2 billion in cash and stock auctions so they got2 billion kind

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on that deal although everyone suspects that Facebook stock is just going to

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bounce back so it probably actually won't matter in the end and they're not

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exactly selling all this stock immediately anyways because they're

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probably going to have to sell it over time and then blah blah blah blah blah

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so there's tons of speculation around that so whatever it was $2 billion deal

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we'll figure out how much that equates to in the end and I'm sure by that time no one will really care anyways there's

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a bunch of negative and positive um angles you can take on this I'm going to

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people take already there's obviously some that'll pop up later on that we haven't talked about yet but the

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negative angles the main ones I've seen is people on the internet don't trust

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just hate it all right moving on they

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said they weren't interested in being acquired before there's actually quite a few quotes of them saying Oh we won't

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have to be acquired by some big company and that's a good thing blah blah blah blah blah and now they're acquired by a

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huge company so that's interesting I guess guess moving on being acquired due

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to Kickstarter success feels like betrayal Notch actually echoed this by

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could be acquired by a huge company that's not an exact quote but it's

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of as a glommed whole obviously not the

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entire thing but just generally the voice of the internet dislikes Facebook

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people like Notch again we'll get into Notch's comments on this later um people

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wanted Oculus to stick with its home brew roots and signing up with Facebook

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buy them and there's been a whole bunch of things like like valve and all these

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other things which may or may not make any sense at all but we'll get into that

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um and all the comments of oh my God Farmville 3D and Facebook pop-ups all

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over your face and all that kind of stuff again we'll get into that later

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deep you're gonna be able to go and hopefully travel different places experience different things shop online

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virtually hopefully be able to see sizing and stuff like that because your avatar will be the right size blah blah

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blah blah blah tons of new experiences that you weren't expecting before

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whether not you think that's a good thing this is a positive angle um The

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increased funding is allowing them to hire more Talent uh like Michael abrash which

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seen over the past month or two which really hint to this but we'll talk about

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that later again um they didn't get purchased by another gaming hardware

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company that would have been a disaster in my mind I mean if they' been bought

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better option terrible have been disastrous I mean you look at how closed

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hackers hardcores all that kind of stuff have been talking but like there there's

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someone would go and recreate something like Rome and make it so that someone

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even if they're in an old folks home could travel the world and experience these things this is very cool and you

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don't want to get locked into a gaming Hardware Niche and have none of that ever be possible right now Oculus is

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open of course gaming is going to drive it but hopefully it opens up so again

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these are all positive angles um they can now afford custom Hardware they've

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like mobile phones and now they'll actually be able to make Hardware that

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that was made for something else and they're just kind of hacking it and forcing it in there and making it work

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hackers don't really feel that great about Oculus not staying true to the

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home brew Roots but those guys also want

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a fantastic VR experience and purpose made Hardware is

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uh oh crap where did it go I can't remember where it is doesn't

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matter I'll get into it later um so how I designed this document and how I think

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off as a massive explosion not that it isn't still a massive explosion you can

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interested in Oculus uh okay two things number one yes you are you just don't

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well basically the same as number one Oculus and VR in general is extremely

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the future so that's why we are dedicating almost an entire show to it

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you guys can stay tuned in and this is going to be a really great show um Luke

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in particular has worked extremely hard

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on making sure that we're bringing you guys some really good coverage of what

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happened this week um so you can stay tuned in and you can enjoy that or if

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you don't think this is important legitimately don't think this is important then I mean you can probably

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tune back in in about 45 minutes or an hour and we'll get into some of the NVIDIA stuff and some of the other stuff

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this week but this is such a big deal right now and in the future another

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thing that I wanted to bring up the the thing I forgot to bring up on the positive angles thing which is actually

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not on the dock which is probably why you started talking is uh even if you

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VR is now going to happen because there's been this big of an investment

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other investment firms are going to look into other companies and start pouring a

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lot more money into VR because Facebook is huge and they are a competitor a

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natural competitor of many things so VR is now going to happen there's a lot lot

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of people have been going like oh Oculus is dead now whether or not they're dead

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doesn't matter even if they're the sacrificial lamb it's going to happen

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companies are going to be acquired by big guys and they're going to get

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investment funding and all the funding and it's going to happen and it's going

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to be really great whether it's the kind of great we envisioned or not whether or

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not you think Oculus is now the sacrificial L that's going to die or if

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you think they're just going to be the biggest thing on the planet doesn't matter it's happening which is which is

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a good thing so it started off with the posts by uh Mark Zuckerberg and Palmer

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Facebook can you um can you make sure that okay I'm going to try and keep up

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future VR red post so I'm going to stay there for a while and then it might get

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a little bit so I'm going to go ahead and drop this in there yeah so I'm going to start off with some very notable

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things that were said in Palmer's post on Reddit um he said we we've reached

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content creators and artists around the world there's and I'm going to comment

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went into this aren't game developers content creators and artists I'm not a

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not a I'm not a game designer I'm I've I've dabbled in programming but I'm not

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know that's bought one isn't any of these things they're interested in the

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company so people were worried that he was abusing that number to try and get

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investment feeds and before cancelling because they're trying to vote with their wallet whatever we'll get more

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open way that is aligned with oculus is culture a lot of people respond in

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saying how is Facebook aligned in an with oculus at all in an open way blah

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will be able to come out with fewer compromis and faster which is that's

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just probably true there's tons more money yeah they can pay more for

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manufacturing they can push things through faster um Oculus is somewhat

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unpredictable future just became Crystal Clear virtual real reality is coming and

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it's going to change the way we View and play games forever that was slightly

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edited but it's essentially what we were talking about earlier VR is happening

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now yeah no matter what um another quote from him I'm obsessed with VR I spend

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every day pushing further and every night dreaming of where we're going uh

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even in my wildest dreams I never imagine we come so far so fast I'm a

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proud member of this community thank you all for carrying virtual reality and

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gaming forward and trusting us to deliver we won't let you down so he said

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all that but the reality of it is is he can't say anything else so we're not

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sure what to read into this I think at

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the at the end of the day if you trust Palmer and you trust the Oculus team

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it's not like they can just bail and start again because Oculus the company

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owns so many patents now that they in

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all likelihood wouldn't even be able to

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start up again and go back up against their old company I'm sure there's some

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type of non-compete agreements and stuff too but there's there there is things in

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here people were wondering like oh are those uh Notch actually specifically I'm

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going to jump down right here so let's clarify who Notch is Minecraft DE

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Minecraft creator Notch uh actually replied on this exact Reddit thread

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saying you got my respect before I met you you kept it when I met you blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I'm going to

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jump forward a little bit um where I

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just hope you got your fair share VR will live on thank you for being part of

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making it finally happen but I really wish this hadn't happened the main part

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I was trying to say is I understand you're probably under a big NDA and

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stuck in golden handcuffs um which which is interesting

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but you also have to realize that you've got Palmer and which is interesting a

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lot of people started to trust palmer but you have John karmac mhm John carmac

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isn't just going to shut up and code

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because someone's slapping dollar bills at him yeah that's not going to happen

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so if if this does start getting forced in a bad direction if I were you guys

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paying attention I would listen to John carac honestly personally I'm going to listen to Palmer too but he is a lot

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newer to the scene than John freaking karmac John karmac says whatever he

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wants as far as I can tell and as far as anyone can probably tell I'm going to go

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ahead and so if you if you really want to get some feedback uh karmac actually

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posted on Twitter about 3 days ago he basically said look the volume of tweets

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right now is way too high can't even begin to look at it all but if you hit

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me in a few days or like once the poop storm starts to die down a little bit

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then he does want to engage he does want to engage he does want to talk about it

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um when I initially saw that it was radio Silence from carac for the first

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couple of days after the acquisition that set off some warning Bells maybe

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he's unhappy but it looks now as if he

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was just weathering the storm he he actually he said I'm currently coding he

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was essentially being like guys I'm working well that's a blog post from uh

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from when that was from yesterday or the day before right yeah I'm currently coding that was pretty early on actually

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so he's like yeah I'm still coding just the same as I was this time last week so

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for all intents and purposes nothing has changed and that was echoing the idea

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that the Facebook acquisition hadn't changed anything anyways moving on um

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people were asking when they saw notch in the comments they were asking him a whole bunch of questions and they were

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basically saying please tell me it's going to be all right Notch replied with

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a lot of companies are working on V now this means competition this means better

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VR and higher chances of a mass Market acceptance this means even better VR

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it's going to be all right very small italicize print maybe so that Echoes

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again the thing that we said earlier where no matter what you think about this it's pushing VR forward whether or

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not Oculus is what carries the torch in the end they're carrying it right now um

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people are saying to Palmer you are the chosen one you were supposed to destroy

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the Sith not join them bring balance to the voice not leave it in darkness um I

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just had to to keep that in there because it was kind of funny now echoing

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one of the most highly upvoted posts on the thread these were a bunch of the

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concerns Facebook is known for its intrusive tracking of users Facebook is

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undoubtedly a massive company it is beginning to lose a lot of its teenage

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population due to more widespread use of the older population and the fact that

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Oculus has been acquired by Facebook Palmer has repeatedly said um part

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partnership or partnering um but they were acquired so he was worried about

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that terminology where it might just be kind of a hay and Palmer thinks they're

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partnering up but really Facebook is the one on top so those were the the the

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main things spoken there um about the

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Facebook is known for intrusive tracking of users uh as far as I can tell if the

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if the lead people of oculus still have anything to say about it that platform is going to be really open and you'll

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probably know about it so that might be a bad thing but again Oculus is carrying

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the torch now so if later on down the line you see an update like the update

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we saw on uh mobile says like Facebook is now reading all of your text messages

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despite having nothing to do with those um you should know about it so just pay

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a lot of attention and then I mean Facebook's whole thing I don't see anything in your notes here but

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Facebook's whole thing has been we're we want Oculus to operate pretty basically

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independently um just like what we did with Instagram and WhatsApp but my

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counter to that is I mean you look at Mark Zuckerberg's blog post where he

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talks about the future of connectivity and how EXC cting these experiences we

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can deliver you know whether it's travel or whether it's having a face to- face

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meeting with someone or or whatever it happens to be when he talks about that

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we're talking like a 10year 20 year outlook and they acquired Instagram like

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two years ago and they acquired WhatsApp

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like so this is not a track record of

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acquiring companies and letting them operate independently this is this is in

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the last like little tiny amount of time

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like since lonus Media Group was formed

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they haven't really disrupted things with their two big Acquisitions so the

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fact that all this is being said now uh

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I mean you look at how quickly politicians can turn around and have a campaign and then go back on that and

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still get elected four years later the collective memory of people is so short

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that even if Facebook does exert complete control over Oculus in let's

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let's use four years as an example because that's the elected term in the

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US and Canada for politicians so even if

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Facebook does in 4 years exert complete

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control and four years after that plaster the whole platform with ads and

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use it as a way to collect data on where you go what you look at and all of this

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great stuff probably no one will ever even remember this happened and except

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you except for me um now we get into the

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poop storm that that was the start of it and that was people honestly in that

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Reddit thread I found it to be more calm than elsewhere which was kind of

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confusing things started popping up people started digging up things on both

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Facebook and Oculus first want that one first first thing yeah there's a really

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bad word in it um first thing that comes to mind is a very old screenshot from a

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conversation that um Mark Zuckerberg had when he said um yeah so if you ever need

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any info on about anyone at Harvard just ask I have over 4,000 emails pictures

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addresses SNS Etc and then the guy said

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how do you manage that he said people just submitted it I don't know why they

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trust me dumb well yeah we don't say

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that word on this show but you guys can read it's right there yeah um so like

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that's not cool especially because of speculation that VR devices are going to

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get things like eye tracking the fact that this thing is strapped to your

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freaking face so if you're looking at a certain product or something like that

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they know it's not just like in another tab you are looking at it with your face

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and I'm not blaming AMD for this but they're true audio technology so the

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programmable DSP that like it's it's like a really powerful sound processor

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they showed off some really cool demos with respect to voice recognition so all

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of a sudden now hold on a second because

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we went from you know um not being too

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worried about people really tapping into anything that we're doing to all of a

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sudden is face to-face conversation

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going to be the only way to actually not have anyone listening and are we going

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to allow ourselves to be convinced that aside from phone taps and messaging Taps

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um when you have a VR conversation with someone like uh I mean you look at the

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kinds of things the kinds of experiences that VR could bring us do you want

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Facebook listening to everything you say when you have a family reunion and

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everyone's vring in because what a cool

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experience but they'll be able to recognize everything you say and use

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that information Facebook wants to own your information and what

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this and Zuckerberg said a really stupid

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thing in a text Mage and it's old and it's old and he was stupid and he was

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young and I'm sure he would be the first to admit that that was a super stupid

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thing to say and he would take it back 100% today if he could but it still

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happened but it did happen

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um so you guys can read into that whatever you want but I do believe that

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while people don't change much I think

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they can grow up and I hope that that was just a young college guy having a

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and I think that's when was only tied into Harvard and like a lot of things

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have changed since then another thing that people are worried about with the Facebook thing is again all of your data

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blah blah blah blah blah and I know in one of kac's tweets he said like if you

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guys blog or whatever about this I'm going to pay attention so and he said

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like things that you're worried about and ways that it can be fixed and stuff like that so if you do have to be

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listening that's really cool hi also um like creepiness Factor try to control

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the creepiness Factor make sure it's open make sure people know what's going on because I think that's honestly the

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biggest reason why people are scared of Facebook is just the fact that Facebook

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can be really creepy um so that's probably the biggest thing I'd say um

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the camera that is now on Oculus people

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we don't really have it yet so we don't know if it's actually taking images or if it's only scanning for IR LEDs but

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who knows what'll happen in the future maybe there's an actual camera fixed on

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that thing um that's and you know what's scary is I

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would opt in for the camera model for sure I I already yeah yeah like okay

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even if told DK even if even if it was an option if someone was like look we

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can put an IR tracker one only and you can put IR you know kits around in your

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room or whatever else or we can give you one with a camera you get like a

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skeleton frame yeah no I know and like that's I would take the camera one even

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if I knew that they were looking at what I was looking at because of it's going to be such a great experience I

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are going to do that so like I said what we're worried about is the creepiness

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Factor so just try and keep that under control and all right what's our next

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one our next one is Oculus is not connected with Facebook this is just

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kind of funny it's just kind of fun won't spend much time on this one taking a break from the hate so with during the

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and now actually which is kind of hilarious this was taken earlier today

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it's not like a yeah I do yeah I've seen

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people screenshot that that's my screenshot though cuz I couldn't find it at the time but Oculus had not connected

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with Facebook during the campaign and they still haven't on Kickstarter at least which is just kind of hilarious

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John karmac may or may not even have a Facebook account there's a Facebook

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account for John carac up right now but it looks like super public figure

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Facebook account and like the title is Godfather of moving 3D images or

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something like that I doubt that he put that in there doesn't seem like his

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style no and it's not like verified or anything he did tweet that he'll

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probably have to get a Facebook account now but I don't think he's rushing to do

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it he's probably busy coding cuz he's kind of Awesome with that um anyways

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moving on to the thing that had me super pissed off off at the beginning the

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reason why I thought the entire thing was just ruined and why I basically

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cried over Twitter for a little while and the reason that a lot of people felt

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this way this New York Times post was brutal and honestly where I think most

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of the hate came from um just jumping into saying what's exactly in the

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article according to a person a person involved with the deal who was not

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allowed to speak publicly because he was not authorized by either company

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Facebook eventually plans to redesign the Oculus hardware and Rebrand with a

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Facebook interface and Logo which didn't even make any sense really like what

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does that even mean but that's why that's one of the reasons why I was so

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mad right because the whole deal didn't make sense on the surface social network

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acquiring VR Gaming company and then it's like rebranding and calling what

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the heck yeah like what what is this exactly since then Facebook has made

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their intentions much more clear and this was was

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wholeheartedly denied like it was hammered down but it sat there for a

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while and let a lot of people stew and it was it was scary and I love how it's

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like a small part of that article too and it's not like a like a you know how

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they pop it out and make it big and make it a different color and all that kind of stuff like The Verge does uh they

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didn't do that with it or anything like it's it's it's kind of at the bottom but

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it's like the most important thing in the entire article um but yeah that's

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been shut down pretty quick so no longer

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worry about that um and then other

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things start coming out like the people are saying it's an internal call um I've

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heard a lot of news that it actually wasn't an internal call it was quite

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public but I have no idea which is true either way I don't care it was as far as

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I know an investor call for Oculus and Facebook and there's some QA and Mark

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Zuckerberg's on the call and it's fairly interesting but almost all the way

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through the call there's the part that most people actually listen to I ended

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up listening to the whole thing but this is the part that people really cared

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about it's really long I don't know if I'll actually read through the whole

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thing how about I read it I'm fast go all right so he says so this is from

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Zuckerberg he says in terms of our business model we're clearly not a hardware company we're not going to try

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and make a profit off the device itself in the long term and we see this as a

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software and services thing where if we can make it so that this becomes a

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network so that people can be communicating and buying things like

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virtual Goods uh there might be adverts in the world but we need to figure that

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out down the line so that's probably where the business will come from but for the foreseeable future the main goal

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that we have is building out the product using the different levers that Facebook

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has to make the technology affordable and to make it ubiquitous and to use the

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different technologies that Facebook has developed to bring it to Market as soon as

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possible so there you go that's the plan

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whether that makes it any less scary to you or not for me it doesn't at all um

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clearly the plan is investing in the platform and making it successful so

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00:30:17,159 --> 00:30:23,200
that's the priority and they will figure out the monetization later so it's the

433
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:27,200
whole internet company startup model except this time being applied to an

434
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:31,880
actual piece of Hardware because that piece of hardware is so directly tied

435
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:37,000
into the software experience they can't exist without each other now this I

436
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:40,480
cover that okay yeah this scared and didn't scare a lot of people for

437
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,240
multiple reasons um it scared people because it was an internal call the

438
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,360
second that came out everyone freaked out whether or not that's even true I

439
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,919
don't know um people only heard the advertisement part and freaked out one

440
00:30:49,159 --> 00:30:54,799
thing you have to remember that this is an investment call this isn't this

441
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,880
wasn't a this wasn't the public post on Facebook this was an investment call he

442
00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:02,039
Zuckerberg can't just be like well yeah I want to play VR games so I bought this

443
00:31:00,639 --> 00:31:05,679
company so that I can like make this thing even better I mean I don't think

444
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,919
that's it although it'd be super cool if he was like if you read his Facebook

445
00:31:07,639 --> 00:31:16,279
posts it's the most like oh my God I love this thing post that I've seen of

446
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,159
anyone ever so who knows there may even

447
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:23,080
be a little bit of that and we can hope for that because if he's truly

448
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:24,480
passionate about the technology then I

449
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,840
kind of go okay maybe it'll be okay but then

450
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:33,840
probably not because in the future he'll still have to bend to the the needs of

451
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,159
his investors and monetize the heck out of the platform but then by the time

452
00:31:35,159 --> 00:31:41,519
that happens you're talking years in the future something else will be there as

453
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,519
well yep it like doesn't matter there will be a competitor for Rift so we have

454
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:50,159
to hope that they build up the Technology Drive everything further make

455
00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:53,360
this stuff um because make it profitable for developers to develop for VR

456
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:58,480
definitely and then hopefully competitors will jump in The Fray because even if you're still a huge fan

457
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:03,320
of oculus it doesn't matter competitors are good competition is always good it

458
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:06,679
drives Innovation competition is good so anyways okay moving on there's some

459
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,120
other weird stuff this is this is actually largely stuff that I haven't

460
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,559
seen around a ton but things that I've noticed over the last little while so

461
00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:17,840
starting off with oculus dropping out of the immersive technology Alliance kind

462
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:22,519
of awkwardly dropping out of the immersive technology Alliance so super

463
00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:26,240
awkward yeah um the immersive technology Alliance is a nonprofit games Collective

464
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,639
that is focused on bringing stuff like augmented reality virtual reality 3D and

465
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:33,760
Chester control technology to the masses um it's it's an alliance there's tons of

466
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:39,440
these things there's the DVD Alliance there's there there's tons of them

467
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:43,960
um basically any standard whether it's like USB or DisplayPort is going to

468
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:49,440
have some kind of group of individuals or companies or investors or entities

469
00:32:46,679 --> 00:32:54,960
that manage the standard and drive it Forward because if they don't things get

470
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,720
kind of insane usually so it's like the

471
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,799
high-profile virtual reality company Oculus Rift recently dropped over the

472
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:05,919
this Alliance but Oculus claims they were never a part of it yet the ITA guys

473
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,679
are saying they were a big part of it and actually helped them move from what

474
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:14,200
they previously known as which was S3 DGA to the newly named ITA and Oculus

475
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:18,960
actually had them like remove their branding from their website and everything and basically just dropped

476
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,919
the ball moved back as far as they possibly could and say I was never

477
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:28,039
playing which is interesting and this is not the newest news um this was from a

478
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:30,639
little while ago I think I actually shortly mentioned it on the show but

479
00:33:29,639 --> 00:33:38,159
because I didn't really know what it meant at the time I didn't make it a huge topic um it's it's just weird and

480
00:33:35,639 --> 00:33:42,720
the timing's a little bit off so they basically ITA is saying that they got

481
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:47,080
their first official notification that Oculus was leaving the alliance late in

482
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:52,279
the evening on March 15th yeah so this was like pretty pretty close to when the

483
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:57,039
deal happened and it's just this article is super super weird it's on polygon.com

484
00:33:55,279 --> 00:34:01,840
I don't think I there's not a lot of comments on it and no one's commented on

485
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:03,799
it since like the 18th right so it's

486
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,559
yeah it's I don't know I just find that's interesting because they got

487
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,320
acquired by Facebook and then they locked off from the alliance that's

488
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:15,839
trying to make some sort of standard so that's interesting then if you click on

489
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:23,240
the thread so this is where everything kind of started um this is

490
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:25,879
MTB mtbs 3d.com I I always screw that up

491
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:28,679
U which is where Palmer is a huge member of this forum and this is where the the

492
00:34:27,359 --> 00:34:33,040
Epic like massive three

493
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:38,639
4,235 post thread started and this is yeah this is just a big deal and if you

494
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:40,480
contr f for uh where is it sell out to a

495
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:44,720
large company you can see a big thread where

496
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,960
he answers a whole bunch of questions and right in the middle of it he says um

497
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,679
Oculus is going forward in a big way but in a way that still lets me focus on the

498
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:57,720
Community First and not sell out to a large company a lot of people were very

499
00:34:54,679 --> 00:35:00,280
upset about this comment because

500
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:03,160
Community First not sell out to a large company so now people are saying are you

501
00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:07,560
no longer Community First because you sold out to a large company um the

502
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:13,480
problems with this are if you jump into the next one the big $75 million

503
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,000
investment that happened um not way too

504
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:19,320
long ago the guy that did that works for Facebook actually if you check out the

505
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:23,200
board of directors which I also have linked here this is where I was telling you you're going to get into rapid fire

506
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:28,960
all I got this uh if you check out the board of directors you can see him there

507
00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:30,240
Mark Andre I believe um you can see him

508
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,680
on the board of directors for Facebook and he was a huge investment pool right

509
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:39,599
there and then quotes that have been fairly recently coming out of Palmer

510
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:43,400
saying Oculus has already sold out by raising Venture Capital money because

511
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,160
they had these investors that were able to control them a little bit and Palmer

512
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:51,560
said that a lot they already sold out and then they were acquired by Facebook

513
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,400
the same company that their big 75 million dollar investor is on the board

514
00:35:53,240 --> 00:36:00,480
of directors for which is really interesting and it also even seems like

515
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:05,319
he was trying to tell us valve knew something on February 28th this is a

516
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:10,240
quote from an article where a guy from valve went to visit Oculus he said the

517
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:14,480
demo stuck me in a simple room whose walls were textured with financial data

518
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,839
for Facebook from some website an odd Choice yeah there's a little Red Cube

519
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,280
bouncing around the room and the desire to avoid it was extremely strong a

520
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:26,040
dodgeball SL laser field game immediately popped into my mind but as I

521
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:29,480
mentioned before a tether really hurts this type of idea the part that I really

522
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,359
paid attention to when reading this and this was actually brought to my attention I didn't notice this was the

523
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,839
the financial data for Facebook from some website just being plastered all

524
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,200
over the walls on February 28th it's interesting in combination with him

525
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,400
saying that they were already sold out by raising venture capital and then

526
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,520
having that just kind of randomly leaked out there it's really weird to just do

527
00:36:47,319 --> 00:36:53,119
that anyways um these are all the like random

528
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:57,319
crap that I found over the last little while uh another tell he's a little into

529
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,240
this hey I didn't really sleep much this week another thing that happened was uh

530
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:08,000
if if you go to the corporate Reddit attack or framing link have there um was

531
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:09,720
was weird ditto posts all over

532
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,680
technology and gaming this was again this is not a screenshot by me this is

533
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:19,119
just something I found that someone else brought up um but you don't really know

534
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,880
what angle to go with this because why

535
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:25,880
we should explain what this is okay okay just so in case you guys so basically

536
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:31,319
defending the deal like right after it happened there were these what appear to

537
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:36,400
be shill accounts popping up on Reddit posting like copy paste responses or

538
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:40,000
very similar responses to people hating on it okay kind of all over the place

539
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:44,480
and a lot of times they very new accounts and stuff like that but it's

540
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:48,720
that doesn't really make a lot of sense for the direction and angle that um

541
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,760
anyone at Oculus was taking or anyone at Facebook was taking to be completely

542
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:56,400
honest so we don't know whether or not this was it could have just as easily

543
00:37:53,960 --> 00:38:01,280
been someone trying to frame them destroy um any sort of positive

544
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:06,040
sentiment that might have existed by pretending to be someone trying to

545
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:12,000
defend what was going on in the most obvious horrible guerilla marketing way

546
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,680
so this is interesting we don't know

547
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:18,760
what side of the field it even plays on or did a whole bunch of people just happen to decide to copy and paste each

548
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:24,160
other for karma that might have been it um so who knows not sure looks fishy

549
00:38:22,359 --> 00:38:28,720
don't know which side of it it's on it's just something interesting that we

550
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,160
noticed um then things started popping

551
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:33,960
up this is again going through somewhat of a timeline um then started things

552
00:38:32,319 --> 00:38:38,359
things started popping up of basically every Kickstarter I've ever heard of um

553
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:44,119
especially the ones that I've been a part of because I've now seen updates by a few of them being like whoa whoa whoa

554
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:48,560
we're not selling to Facebook even like some super random stuff that has nothing

555
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:53,760
to do with anything being like whoa guys it's cool so people were begging Chris

556
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:56,920
Roberts not to sell the Facebook which I found hilarious that was the main one I

557
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,520
wanted to show because we're we're fairly into into Star Citizen so I

558
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:04,160
wanted to bring that one up but there's been stuff for tons of different kickstarters not just Star Citizen

559
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:09,880
there's even I forgot to put it in here there's even a Kickstarter running right now that has a stretch goal of $2

560
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:15,560
billion that's like we'll try to buy Oculus from Facebook which is hilarious

561
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:21,720
um someone was joking saying that there should be a$2 billion do stretch goal

562
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:24,160
for cig saying that um it's preventing

563
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:28,119
Facebook from buying cig a lot of people were joking but there was actually some

564
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:32,599
legitimate fear in there and has started an interesting question on uh

565
00:39:30,359 --> 00:39:35,079
kickstarters for technology a lot of people feel like they're heavily

566
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,680
invested in something when they Kickstart it and feel like they should

567
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:43,560
they're kind of a part of the company but you're not yeah you're donating and

568
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:49,400
then you're getting something back for donating but you're not getting a part of the company back for donating and

569
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,960
while it feels like that and the kick the the culture around Kickstarter is

570
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,240
really heavily around like community community and you're a part of this and

571
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,040
this is this is you you made this happen blah blah blah blah blah

572
00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:02,800
really you might have made it happen but it doesn't matter you're not actually a

573
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:08,920
part of that company you're not an investor and if you look at the kickstarter they promised you a dev kit

574
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:13,560
one Shi you a dev kit one or whatever other tier you were on or whatever tier

575
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:18,079
you were on so any obligation that Oculus had to you is over and no matter

576
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:22,560
how depressing that seems because honestly when I Kickstart a lot of things I'm kickstarting it not

577
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:27,440
necessarily just because of what I get back from what I'm donating at a lot of

578
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,359
games especially month or two after the release for a lot

579
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,800
of these indie games are way cheaper than my Kickstarter price I'm kickstarting them because I want it to

580
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,880
happen yeah um but that doesn't mean that I have an investment in the company

581
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,040
so then I mean maybe you're maybe you're happy about the Facebook thing because

582
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:44,400
now it's going to happen even more and better supposedly I don't think there's

583
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:49,000
too many of those think but that's that's possible um another fairly

584
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:53,119
noteworthy rant to bring up this was a one that was fairly early on this was on

585
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:57,839
uh Reddit again a lot of this happened on Reddit um people just pointing out

586
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:03,119
that holy crap John karmac is a Facebook employee now

587
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:04,240
um go figure hey it's it's just weird to

588
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:11,040
think about like I don't even know what to say like hurts my brain it's just like wait what what anyways but he's not

589
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:15,599
he is but he's not like he's he's working for Oculus I don't know whatever

590
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:18,880
um people posting Facebook is an advertising company they sell data so

591
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,920
that they're paying customers the advertisers can Target their marketing

592
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,640
um and it wouldn't surprise it wouldn't surprise anyone if in a couple years you

593
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:30,599
won't be able to use it without supplying dat to Facebook wittingly or

594
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:34,319
not eye tracking interest this part is me eye tracking what you're interested

595
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:39,680
in and it's really easy to know if you're paying attention or looking at something when it's strapped to your

596
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,920
face can you imagine how effectively you

597
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:45,920
can sell ad Impressions or like how much

598
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:48,160
more effectively uh graphic designers

599
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:53,200
could design their ads to make it so that you look at them and all the kind

600
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:56,319
of subconscious crap that goes on that people don't even think about I mean

601
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:02,240
when you go shopping at a store you ever notice there's like a double door in

602
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:04,359
like every store that is a psychological

603
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:08,599
thing there's there's this there's this buffer zone between yeah it's called the

604
00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:12,680
decompression Zone not shopping and shopping that they have created very

605
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:18,280
intentionally you know what's funny is when I was a kid I always thought that

606
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:20,280
it was like to keep the heat in or out I

607
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,760
think that's what they say yeah but it's it's known to be a decompression

608
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:27,800
something there's other things too A lot of the tile in the middle of malls is shiny and then the tile in the stores is

609
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,720
not shiny where it's carpet or like that it often it's really Shin faster and

610
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:37,520
settle somewhere it's usually shiny in the middle of the mall and not super shiny in a store blah blah blah blah

611
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:41,119
blah it's very Bland smells that that they that they'll run through stores I

612
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:47,280
mean all these things are designed to make you buy without even knowing why

613
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,920
you're doing it and uh eye tracking is

614
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:55,359
going to be a real good way to make that even more effective um that being said

615
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,400
it is there's there's a bunch of posts in Palmer's personal Reddit account that

616
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:03,359
talks about this type of stuff and we'll be getting into that later again we're

617
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,880
going through in Fairly linear lines keep going keep going they know we're

618
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:10,480
getting into that later it's okay um so the community is mad about the change of

619
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:16,160
pace this was a fairly interesting one because messages that came from karmac

620
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,040
the CTO of oculus VR and a a very

621
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:23,280
important dude saying stuff like for a certain segment of the population the

622
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:29,200
hacker slaker crowd this is going to be awesomely cool to work with that was the

623
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:33,400
message before the message now is this

624
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,480
being from um Brendan IRB I don't

625
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:40,880
actually know how to pronounce his last name that's really embarrassing the CEO of oculus VR saying We Believe virtual

626
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:45,960
reality will be heavily defined by social experiences that connect people

627
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:49,240
in magical new ways that's very

628
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,559
different than the heartbeat kind of

629
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:56,520
idea that was oculus before which is like yeah hackers and makers it's more

630
00:43:54,119 --> 00:44:01,319
social experience now which is interesting but then at the same use the

631
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,760
word magical thank you Mr jobs yeah yeah

632
00:44:01,319 --> 00:44:06,800
this is a magical device at the same time though this is

633
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:09,920
two different people and if you talk to karmac he's still very gaming focused

634
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:13,520
and if you talk to Palmer he's still very gaming focused this is just quotes

635
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:20,000
that I got from a picture that someone posted on Reddit um Brendan while this

636
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:23,800
this is a specific quote again this is this is grabbing snippet quotes grabbing

637
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:28,440
snippet quotes isn't always applicable if you go talk to Brendan at if you go

638
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:32,800
watch some of his videos that he's been in at conventions a lot of time he talks

639
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:36,720
about gaming and some of them have been very recent they're still talking about

640
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:40,040
gaming he's just talking about an idea that they haven't really expressed as

641
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:43,400
much necessarily in the past so I'm not sure how much that matters but a lot of

642
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:49,200
people were at up in arms about that something that was also really interesting was the are you done with VR

643
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:56,240
straw pole that came up which ended up being huge um I'm done with oculus VR

644
00:44:53,559 --> 00:45:01,440
dead to me was one of the options that had 11 , 32 votes when I last looked at

645
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:07,319
it and was accounting for 50% of the votes um I I will withhold judgment for

646
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:09,520
now and see how this plays out only had

647
00:45:07,319 --> 00:45:14,680
9,947 votes compared to the previous 11,000 and something ringing in at 45%

648
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:18,680
of the vote okay that's helpful um and then the the the part the people saying

649
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:23,599
they're okay with Facebook was only 4% which is

650
00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:26,359
like nothing um but then a lot of this

651
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:30,520
was need reaction this this this straw pull was created extremely early and I

652
00:45:28,839 --> 00:45:34,440
wish we could get every single person that responded on that to respond again

653
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:38,400
and see how it would change I don't necessarily think the number of people

654
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:42,200
saying that Facebook is okay would necessarily increase because no matter

655
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:49,160
how you look at that look at this I don't think a ton of people are super stoked about the idea of Facebook um but

656
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:52,559
I think more people would probably side with the I will withhold judgment for

657
00:45:51,040 --> 00:46:00,480
for now and see how this plays out because if you have to put your trust in anyone Palmer carac and all those

658
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:04,119
guys those are some people to put your trust in people have been describing

659
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,760
karmac as the canary in the coal mine and I don't really know any better way

660
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:12,079
of actually saying that because that's a really good way of if he had a problem

661
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:18,079
with it then we'd know about it and I I guess at least we'll have a

662
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:23,200
heads up when stuff's about to hit the fan because when karmac leaves

663
00:46:20,839 --> 00:46:26,000
Oculus then we'll there's your heads up there's your heads up and a Brash

664
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:30,760
joining like that's another person to pay attention to and follow and honestly

665
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:36,800
if anyone can do it it's these guys so I hope they make it

666
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:38,319
because I don't know it's scary um then

667
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:43,640
then things start happening like I actually hold on a second I actually created a new straw pole so we'd love

668
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,200
for you guys to vote on this one I'm just going to post it in the chat a few

669
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:51,079
times here so that you guys can see it only click the ones that are posted by

670
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:55,200
me because it's sort of a thing for people to just click make their own

671
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,599
straw Poes anyway so uh go ahead check that out we'd love to hear what you guys

672
00:46:56,599 --> 00:47:02,720
think and see how it compares to the original results okay go ahead Luke all right so

673
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:07,480
next we're moving into we're still in kind of negative stuff so Oculus CTO

674
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:12,000
bailes on GTC due to illness now if you try to go to this thread it's not going

675
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:17,839
to work oh okay it was pulled down by NVIDIA's Blog NVIDIA's blog was amazing

676
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,680
it's too bad we didn't uh did you like cop I don't have a screenshot or

677
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:25,440
anything I I should have I should have thought about that but there's a new

678
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:29,680
post on NVIDIA's blog now actually where if you can find that I should put that

679
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,680
in here I was rushing near the end there's a new post saying like holy crap

680
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:37,480
he's awesome because he ended up showing up ended up being a very last minute

681
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:41,760
kind of ditch effort kind of thing they got about 100 people there just like at

682
00:47:39,319 --> 00:47:45,240
the very last possible second and he ended up talking to them and it

683
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:51,000
apparently it was great yeah here we go speaks at GTC yeah very very different

684
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:55,480
than their previous article which was like begs off attendance blah blah blah

685
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:59,079
blah blah like super not stoked they're they're happy with him now but again

686
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:04,520
this is this was playing into the negative feeling of the whole internet where everyone's like oh he's not ill

687
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:08,040
he's just trying to dodge our questions honestly I don't even necessarily think

688
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:13,240
that was a thing he was very possibly ill because of how much crap has been

689
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:15,480
being thrown at them because like

690
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:19,000
they've been busy it's the yeah I don't know I I doubt any of that team has

691
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:24,000
really slept much over not that you'd be able to relate to becoming ill because

692
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:27,920
no sleep and lots of work yeah yeah I think people can probably remember that

693
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:31,960
um although I bet you R Max fine cuz as far as I can tell he just like doesn't

694
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:37,000
care and is still programming which is kind of awesome um but the rest of the

695
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:42,839
team es especially Palmer you once we get to his Reddit posts he can oh man I

696
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:45,119
feel bad for Palmer anyways moving on to

697
00:48:42,839 --> 00:48:49,839
Notch's post so Notch posted on Twitter some people saw the retweet from me um

698
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:54,839
essentially saying that he has no intention of now creating a Minecraft

699
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:58,920
mod which he's planning on making an official one because he finds Facebook

700
00:48:56,799 --> 00:49:02,720
to be creepy uh you heard our quotes earlier from when he was on the Reddit

701
00:49:00,359 --> 00:49:06,720
thread he's been very vocal in this um so a direct quote is I did not chip in

702
00:49:04,839 --> 00:49:11,079
10 grand to seed a first investment round to build value for face for a

703
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,119
Facebook acquisition another quote is I definitely want to be a part of VR but I

704
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:19,200
will not work with Facebook their motives are too unclear and shifting and

705
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:22,280
they haven't historically been a stable platform there's nothing about their

706
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:26,799
history that makes me trust them and that makes them very seem very creepy to

707
00:49:24,319 --> 00:49:31,960
me um now before we get into those comments I want to jump forward and to

708
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:36,240
the scumbag Oculus meme kickstarters Edition um which is just kind of

709
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:41,960
interesting and plays into what Notch was talking about we'll talk about that in a second um and Palmer's post when

710
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:45,799
Palmer bounces back at Notch for posting that by saying things like he had the

711
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:50,480
rift for over a year and hasn't even tried The Unofficial Minecraft mod um at

712
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:54,359
least at the point of Palmer posting that which is I'm assuming based on

713
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:57,920
information from when Notch visited that office before the Facebook acquisition

714
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:04,319
and he said it's easy to cancel a project that was never even really started anyways he has Merit in both of

715
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:04,319
those points

716
00:50:05,319 --> 00:50:12,040
but okay I don't think a lot of comments that people have been pointing at him um

717
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:16,240
coming from people like cliff balinsky and coming from uh even Palmer himself

718
00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:21,240
and a whole bunch of people on the internet and the guy that posted this Facebook post originally are necessarily

719
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,760
that accurate they're calling him childish and feeble and all this other

720
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,400
kind of stuff um whether or not it's because he

721
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:32,960
just doesn't feel like doing the project and he wants to cancel it that doesn't seem very true necessarily especially

722
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,839
when he's saying I definitely want to be a part of VR I will but I will not work

723
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,799
with Facebook he does kind of seem like he wants to be a part of VR I'm going to

724
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:43,599
have to take what he's saying on face value he seems pretty legit in the past

725
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:47,599
um it does seem like he's doing it on moral reasons he doesn't like Facebook

726
00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:50,880
so he's canceling the project that doesn't make him childish just because

727
00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:55,359
he doesn't like something he doesn't want to work with someone I I don't

728
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:59,119
necessarily agree with that but then again that's up to you to make make that

729
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:04,119
decision being childish might be taking it public you could always just cancel

730
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:07,640
the project and not say that's very true and of something jumping on the Reddit

731
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,240
post and jumping on Twitter and making it a huge deal that could have been a

732
00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:15,599
childish action but I don't think necessarily like that like the whole Fez

733
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:19,640
2 cancellation thing oh yeah would that have been less drama if he' just canel

734
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,680
it instead of saying I'm canceling it because you guys are so mean to me yeah

735
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:27,119
maybe and that's that's a very good point I don't think the fact that he

736
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:31,040
canceled it is childish maybe the way he went about it you can decide whatever

737
00:51:28,839 --> 00:51:34,599
the heck you want about that that's just something to throw there so here's our

738
00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:41,280
new straw pole so uh there's been a major shift the major shift in the uh in

739
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:45,760
the perception here so we had 300 votes

740
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:48,119
for Oculus is dead to me and a full 65%

741
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:52,480
actually okay so 76% of you are either okay or withholding judgment which

742
00:51:50,599 --> 00:52:01,359
interesting a massive shift and good timing because now we get into the shift

743
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:03,359
um um where Reddit um our own Community

744
00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:09,559
Twitter a lot of these different communities the the the voice that was

745
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:12,200
most heard is now changing to stop

746
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:15,599
attacking them let's wait and see all that kind of stuff instead of like

747
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:21,839
direct and sometimes personal attacks and threats to people like ridiculous

748
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,680
which is not okay um okay moving on so

749
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:28,640
blah blah blah blah blah the hate the the Hate Now directed at those attacking

750
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,200
Oculus quotes from this are to to jump

751
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,319
to personal attacks in an emotional tantrum Masque way and Abandon Ship

752
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:38,160
without actually realizing where this deal will go that's that's a pretty good

753
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,960
quote and true to what a lot of people did I got extremely sad I'm sure people

754
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:46,240
saw my Twitter account um but that was mainly when I was getting stuff from The

755
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,559
New York Times saying that they're going to Rebrand everything and um a lot of

756
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:54,520
the other information basically saying Oculus is dead that was depressing but

757
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:58,760
once I found other things not nearly as sad um and another quote there saying

758
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:02,880
say chill and let's wait and see let's all wait and see which I think is yeah

759
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:08,280
that's what I'm doing at least I'm going to wait and see I'm still very interested no matter what I'm not done

760
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:11,280
with VR from you know this and a lot of my friends back in high school that I

761
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:16,319
forced to try it including my girlfriend who didn't care at all but was a good

762
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,119
sport about it um back when I bought Nia

763
00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:22,200
my neural impulse actuator but I don't care I know it's

764
00:53:20,799 --> 00:53:26,000
new ways of interacting with computers this has always been what I've cared about most and I find this incredibly

765
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:31,480
interesting so whether or not it ends up being ocul I'm still totally in for VR

766
00:53:28,839 --> 00:53:39,200
um Cliff balinsky weighs in this was interesting

767
00:53:35,799 --> 00:53:40,920
um I wasn't as interested as in this as

768
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:46,640
many other things but it is still fairly interesting because he gained a lot from

769
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:50,160
this whole situation he was a really big early on investor and something that

770
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:54,440
people have been attacking Oculus over is why the kickstarter people weren't

771
00:53:51,839 --> 00:54:00,480
allowed to be investors that's like us law that's not Ulus wasn't like yeah no

772
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:03,640
let's just give them dk1 instead of uh shares in the company that's just how

773
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:07,240
things work they can't change how the United States works so you can attack

774
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:12,799
them over different things but that's not really going to it doesn't matter

775
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,559
that no U but he was he's an accredited

776
00:54:12,799 --> 00:54:18,799
investor or whatever the heck so he's able to do this kind of stuff um and he

777
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:22,680
brings up some interesting points and some stuff that's scary and I hope never

778
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:27,799
happens so he brings up the fact that Facebook has a multi-million user reach

779
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:32,559
and as people notice with Mark's promoted post he probably didn't pay for

780
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:36,319
that he can probably push advertisements in a lot of different places getting a

781
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:39,680
lot of different eyes on board without paying for it and quotes coming in

782
00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:44,760
earlier on where we were talking about how Facebook is losing a certain audience and saying like oh but that's

783
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:49,440
the audience that's going for Oculus Rift right now yeah okay so they already

784
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:54,880
have those people they don't necessarily need those people from Facebook what

785
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:57,440
they can gain from Facebook is the

786
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:02,119
multibillion user reach of people that don't know what the heck Oculus is y um

787
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:06,799
they can push that out they can talk to all those people so that's that's good

788
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:10,680
um he goes on to talk about WhatsApp and Instagram like we've talked earlier

789
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:14,359
though but I think we share the same opinion which is like dude we haven't

790
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:20,119
had enough time to see that happen at all at all like come on especially

791
00:55:18,359 --> 00:55:25,599
WhatsApp like are you kidding me and we haven't seen Instagram falter in any way

792
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:30,480
and so we haven't seen how Facebook will react when one of their Acquisitions is

793
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:35,520
all of a sudden not looking like a great acquisition anymore do they just slash

794
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,160
the entire work force do they like we've seen Google do um a lot of people are

795
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:43,839
saying why didn't someone like Google buy it that would have been worse that would have been scary that would have

796
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:48,079
been really scary because if it doesn't do well for a second Google's just be

797
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,799
like LOL okay bye and then they own all the patents and they'll do something

798
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:55,640
completely different with it and that might be really cool too

799
00:55:52,760 --> 00:56:00,119
yeah but Google doesn't seem to necessarily care too much about what

800
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:05,359
they acquire and Google operates on their own in their own Dimension

801
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:10,000
sometimes like they're and it's both great and terrible sometimes but they're

802
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:14,480
they're thinking about things 10 years from now 20 years from now and they're

803
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:19,000
because they just don't really care about making money on it today they

804
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:23,039
might just let it sit there behind closed doors in development for another

805
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:27,880
10 years whereas with Facebook they've been pretty clear hey no the Oculus Rift

806
00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:32,760
for gamers is still coming you're going to get the iterative the iterative

807
00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:36,119
hardware that comes on the way to us building our grand vision of it Google

808
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:41,799
doesn't always do that yeah you you could see they built a self-driving car and just put it on the road yeah and it

809
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:46,960
was amazing and then they were like okay cool it's like since when if we heard

810
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:50,000
anything about that it's like obviously safe they've totally proved that it's

811
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:54,039
safe and then they're like all right in the garage um and that could have easily

812
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:59,599
happened with this too you we could have seen DK2 come out or not it's Google who

813
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:06,720
the heck knows and then cv1 consumer version one could have come out in like

814
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:08,160
2020 or something like L 20 K KP screen

815
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:14,319
or whatever we have by that point who knows um uh one thing that he brings up

816
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:18,680
the the like oh now we're just going to get Farmville VR and stuff like that

817
00:57:16,839 --> 00:57:23,240
like I I touched on that earlier when I was talking about the negative points I

818
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:27,400
said oh my God Farmville 3D and Facebook popup updates

819
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:31,520
everywhere I really really don't think so no I think it'll be more subtle I

820
00:57:29,319 --> 00:57:35,839
mean I think what they'll do is they'll offer game developers options like this

821
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:39,920
is the way this is the way I could see it working maybe not step one and not

822
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:44,200
step three where it's like family reunions are all done through Oculus VR

823
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:48,280
but like a step one and a half or two where think about in-game advertising

824
00:57:46,359 --> 00:57:52,359
the way it's done now where there might be um like all of the uh oh crap I

825
00:57:50,839 --> 00:57:56,640
forget what game did this was it Battlefield 4 where they had like um

826
00:57:54,839 --> 00:57:59,400
Coke vending machines and you couldn't knock them over they were like the one

827
00:57:58,319 --> 00:58:03,319
thing in the game that wasn't destructible and like I don't remember I

828
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:08,960
don't remember what game it was but it was like vending machines but so in-game

829
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:11,720
product placement Facebook could offer

830
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:17,960
Oculus developers so Developers for VR games the option to build advertising

831
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:22,079
into their game as a way to monetize their platform they could throw seed

832
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:26,720
funding at them if they're willing to deliver that and this could be a way for

833
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:30,760
us to if we're willing to put up with a little bit more advertising which I

834
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:34,839
think people have proven time and time again that they'll protest about it but

835
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:39,680
much like taxes they'll just suck it up every time um and they won't vote with

836
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:44,319
their wallets until maybe we get to a Breaking Point and but we haven't seen

837
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,760
it yet I'm I'm interested to see what ad

838
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:49,680
block does about this I'm interested to see what Adblock does about this but

839
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:55,200
that could be a great way for us to get more VR content yeah at least for now

840
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:58,839
and support Developers for maybe freeo play that isn't necessarily

841
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:04,119
microtransaction driven um I'm going to actually tangent for just a moment here

842
00:59:01,799 --> 00:59:09,760
and talk about Bravely Default the game that I just recently started playing

843
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,799
would I have rather seen some like well

844
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:16,319
integrated product placement in Bravely Default versus what they've done with

845
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:19,799
sleep points so sleep Point um turn based combat just like a Final Fantasy

846
00:59:18,119 --> 00:59:27,319
game basically except you can okay I'm not going to get into the combat mechanics so sleep points allow you to

847
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:31,039
interrupt turn-based com and act at any time so you can earn them either by

848
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:35,160
leaving the game on with your DS in sleep mode plugged in presumably so it

849
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:39,960
doesn't drain the battery uh for eight hours per sleep point or you can buy

850
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:45,960
them and so basically you can buy the ability to like go until the enemy dies

851
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:50,039
kind of thing that to me is a lot more obnoxious than something like a little

852
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:56,240
bit of Tastefully applied in game advertising so like yeah anyway okay go

853
00:59:53,799 --> 01:00:00,400
ahead go ahead uh and he has a point in however they end up doing it who knows

854
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:05,000
personally I would like the I don't mind product placement to be completely

855
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:07,440
honest ad blockus com from some twitch

856
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:11,200
chat and like okay another thing that Cliff blinsky brings up is the

857
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:15,359
possibility of uh some sort of proprietary system which everyone

858
01:00:12,799 --> 01:00:19,799
freaked out about and he's hopefully completely wrong in super off Bas

859
01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:23,960
because that's super dumb yeah um but another thing that came out of that was

860
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:29,240
the possibility of like maybe when you boot up your computer you load like the

861
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:33,799
Oculus store or something and the Oculus store is kind of like steam but has VR

862
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:38,760
capable games you can buy other stuff like that and there could be other applications that's the idea of this

863
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:42,880
whole system or even an Oculus store from within Steam much like the way

864
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:48,160
we've seen NVIDIA integrate their Tegra Zone store within Android that allows

865
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:51,200
you to shop the Google Play Store but a tailored version of the Google Play

866
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:56,160
Store I'd be totally okay with that and it makes sense because steam's actually been fairly or valve has been fairly

867
01:00:54,319 --> 01:00:59,520
recently talking about allowing different companies to have their own

868
01:00:57,319 --> 01:01:03,000
stores on Steam so that makes an incredible your cynical your cynical

869
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:07,839
take on that was maybe they just don't feel like managing it anymore yeah maybe

870
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:10,559
they're just like ah they can just do whatever the heck they want we'll still

871
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:14,400
scrape all the money and it's fine whether or not you think that's positive

872
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,119
or negative uh that could allow something like Oculus to have their own

873
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:21,960
compatibility store essentially there and then maybe you can if if that's a

874
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:27,280
thing maybe you could unofficially inject OC what what was it called ad

875
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:32,319
blocus Oculus yeah maybe you could integrate that in some way um I don't

876
01:01:30,359 --> 01:01:37,760
know the cliff binsky thing is really long and I preferred other sorts of

877
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:44,280
information all right so Mark Zuckerberg's actual post on Facebook I

878
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:46,839
think clarified a lot um so I'm just

879
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:50,720
going to go ahead and post this now this this is interesting because a massive

880
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:54,559
amount of people as far as I can tell don't really trust Mark Zuckerberg even

881
01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:59,520
if they like Facebook really so

882
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,680
this despite being kind of positive for

883
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,400
the people that may have been negative in the beginning a lot of people have

884
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:07,680
been pretty sketchy about but it's interesting nonetheless and hopefully we

885
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,599
can hold them to the things that he says in here so here we go yeah hopefully

886
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:16,079
there's some accountability so he he starts off by

887
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:20,480
saying um immersive gaming will be first and Oculus already has big plans here

888
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:24,359
that won't be changing and we hope to accelerate I don't even care what side

889
01:02:22,359 --> 01:02:27,960
of the fence you're on that's good um like this has happened we can't reverse

890
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:32,799
it now we have to take the good that we can um and that is good we're focusing

891
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:36,160
on helping Oculus build out their product and develop Partnerships

892
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:40,839
supporting more games to support more games so again we're going to have to

893
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:45,480
move a little faster here at 6 oh God I didn't realize this show was essentially

894
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,640
over already um Oculus will continue

895
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:50,440
operating independently within Facebook um and they want to achieve that blah

896
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:54,920
blah blah whether or not that ends up becoming a thing or not although right now it does seem like it's going to be

897
01:02:53,319 --> 01:02:59,160
and I'm sure carac would have a ton to say if that doesn't stay being a thing

898
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:04,920
so we'll see how that goes um I'm trying to skip over things uh there's just some

899
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:10,119
he he talks about potential uses I'm not going to directly quote this because ites I already talked about it earlier

900
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:14,240
yeah okay yeah okay so let's move on just all the

901
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:17,319
potential uses yeah yeah we talked about things like using it as a way to connect

902
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:21,760
with other people and yeah but he also brings up like medical applications Stu

903
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:26,400
court side seats at games something that I've talked about that I'm really

904
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:29,000
excited about with VR already y um okay

905
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:32,640
so so then we move on to Palmer's Reddit and this is incredibly long and already

906
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,720
chopped down a lot despite the fact that we're going to be skipping a bunch of things so I actually recommend going to

907
01:03:35,319 --> 01:03:42,000
his user account and checking his message log because it is very interesting and a really easy way to

908
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:44,799
track the whole conversation um he's been asked a whole bunch of questions so

909
01:03:43,279 --> 01:03:48,559
these are some answers you will not need a Facebook account to use or develop for

910
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:52,799
the rift that will not be a thing he has said that so far of course he's no

911
01:03:50,839 --> 01:03:59,160
longer running the entire company so it's kind of a problem but I'm sure

912
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:04,720
there you would know anyways um people have been this is a little bit

913
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:06,240
messed up anyways uh people asked if I

914
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:09,880
ever see Facebook branding on anything that's not optional I'm done he says

915
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:14,279
that's not really reasonable in a literal sense but he understands what

916
01:04:11,559 --> 01:04:18,160
the guy is trying to say um I think that comment spouted from the Facebook

917
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:22,920
branding on the Oculus idea not necessarily yeah not necessarily like a

918
01:04:20,279 --> 01:04:27,720
Facebook style the Oculus App Store deal something like that I'm not I'm not sure

919
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:29,400
that was a little bit Shady anyways um

920
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:33,000
if I see any ads on anything that I've already paid for I'm done Palmer says

921
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:37,760
which makes a ton of sense that's a developer decision they're not going to be injecting things necessarily it's not

922
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:41,160
their decision if someone wants to sell a game with built-in ads they will have

923
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:47,160
to deal with the natural consequences of you not buying it he didn't say that you're not buying it part but yeah um

924
01:04:44,839 --> 01:04:54,400
just promise me we there will be no specific Facebook tie-ins um he says I

925
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:55,799
promise which is good um he he talks

926
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:00,359
about it more it's saying would would you rather me sell to someone like Microsoft or apple so they can tear the

927
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:04,799
company apart use the pieces that we have to build their own vision of virtual reality we talked about this

928
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:08,720
earlier um one that fits their current strategy they have not a chance so you

929
01:05:06,839 --> 01:05:14,359
can tell that he believed in this acquisition at least some amount um the

930
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:18,119
key points that he brings up too is we can make custom Hardware we brought this

931
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:21,000
up earlier y um we can afford to hire everyone we need we brought this up

932
01:05:19,319 --> 01:05:24,760
earlier we're going to talk about this l a little bit further on and we can make

933
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:30,039
huge investments in content so the only thing that I've really seen the do in a

934
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:31,480
big form was EVR Eve virtual reality

935
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:35,640
Valkyrie which looks amazing so hopefully there's more of that kind of stuff in the

936
01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:39,160
future um another thing that you should go read into is Carmax tweets again I

937
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:43,720
guess I'm not going to jump into these too in depth because this show could probably go on for four hours um and

938
01:05:42,359 --> 01:05:50,279
I'll just talk about it more in the Afterparty so be sure to show up for that

939
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:53,319
um I like karmac Carm is a really good guy and one of the things that he posts

940
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:57,640
up on there let me go to his Twitter real fast um

941
01:05:57,839 --> 01:06:05,079
was I would expect Facebook not to exert any o overt control over Oculus unless

942
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:09,359
Oculus fumbles badly a few times at which point they should that kind of

943
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:12,880
makes sense um and he asks people what are the hazards what should be what

944
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:17,039
should be done to guard against them and what are the tests of failure blog and

945
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:20,400
I'll read so if you guys have opinions talk about it and they will pay

946
01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:23,559
attention that's very cool anyways jumping forward off of Carmax tweets we

947
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:30,079
talked about some of those early on as well Oculus hires Michael AB crash this

948
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:31,799
is huge and this I think honestly there

949
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:35,799
there was already a Twist towards the positive yeah and then this happened and

950
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:40,720
then everyone was just like so this was today yeah like huge positive outcome

951
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:44,520
when this happened uh some people freaking out saying that now valve is

952
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:48,200
ruined but I don't think valve ever intended on releasing anything anyways

953
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:53,200
yeah so I think it makes a lot more sense that he's now working for Oculus

954
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:58,200
um so he was working on VR at valve for context yeah uh AB Brash and and carac

955
01:06:56,359 --> 01:07:01,240
worked together in the past on some really big things and they're both very

956
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:08,039
happy that they're coming back together which is really cool um they met in 1994

957
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:12,119
1995 and worked on stuff like Quake which is kind of a huge deal I'm going

958
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:17,119
to skip over a bunch of this again yeah let's just go ahead and post the link here you guys should definitely check

959
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:21,760
this out yeah it's the thread on on Oculus is actual website so now people

960
01:07:20,279 --> 01:07:27,200
have been talking about canceling their pre-orders and I don't know what I'm

961
01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:29,079
going to do uh next topic are Riot um

962
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:32,559
starting in 1 minute you guys got another minute to do that because of the

963
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:37,240
delay uh any more of that you will be perab banned and we are not lifting

964
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:39,400
bands anymore so give it a rest um do

965
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:42,279
you want to cancel your terms or sorry do you want to cancel your order there's

966
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:46,640
terms that we can post that'll be in this doc um are you sure you want to

967
01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:50,000
cancel though there's been a lot of people trying to cancel and then trying

968
01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:53,359
to stop their cancel so they can keep their spot in line you can cancel your

969
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:56,599
pre-order before it's shipped so you have a while still so don't worry about

970
01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,760
canc immediately if you're thinking about it you can kind of sit on that

971
01:07:58,599 --> 01:08:03,640
topic or just go and cancel it although careful because it's an email

972
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:08,119
cancellation it's not like an automated one so it might take a little while for them to reply just hold in there yeah

973
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:13,799
and you'll lose your spot in line and you'll lose your spot in line um something interesting to bring up is the

974
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:18,000
photo of their like Facebook kind of thing that they had at their old HQ

975
01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:22,920
which if you zoom in really closely says warning Facebook may cause loss of time

976
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:27,120
poor work ethic obesity social disorders and possible interference of Destiny use

977
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:32,719
it your own risk and then the Facebook thumbs up which is hilarious goes to

978
01:08:30,759 --> 01:08:39,440
show you just what their attitude was towards Facebook the website if not

979
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:42,719
Facebook the company yeah um oatmeal made a joke we're basically at the end

980
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:48,880
now oatmeal made a joke about this apparently a year ago which I'd never seen until earlier today which was

981
01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:52,799
talking about um strapping Facebook to your face essentially if you actually go

982
01:08:50,759 --> 01:08:56,600
look at it there you go there we go um so he talks about essentially like how

983
01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:02,159
the world around me is so very very loud it begs me to slow down to sit down

984
01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:02,880
introducing Facebook for your face I

985
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:08,279
like it and then saying eventually we'll just

986
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:11,679
like lay down and die which is kind of hilarious and then yeah oal I'll talk

987
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:16,520
about it more in the after party but that's essentially what happened you're going to talk about this more on the

988
01:09:14,719 --> 01:09:23,480
Afterparty I just skipped like probably half so when the news first came out we

989
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:26,000
uh we knee-jerk reaction we created this

990
01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:31,719
shirt and it wasn't ready because District I think it kind of applies kind

991
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:34,159
of slow sometimes so here's the shirt um

992
01:09:31,719 --> 01:09:37,839
so it just says it's it's an Oculus eye so it's actually it's not even the

993
01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:41,560
Oculus eye it's just somewhat similar because we don't want any trademark

994
01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:45,759
infringing things on a shirt like this uh so it just says I dislike Facebook in

995
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:51,560
the context of the stuff that's happened over the last couple of days so District Lines took a while for this shirt to

996
01:09:48,440 --> 01:09:53,960
come out and so by now so much positive

997
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:58,760
news has come out around it that I think neither Luke nor I are feeling quite as

998
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:02,760
down about the whole thing it's not being completely re anyways yeah so now

999
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:06,679
like like there were concerns like they were going to reand Rebrand it based on

1000
01:10:05,239 --> 01:10:12,719
that New York Times article which still hasn't been pulled down no which is

1001
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:15,440
interesting to me anyway um so if you

1002
01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:19,480
still feel strongly about the whole thing if we sell like 50 of them then

1003
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:25,960
I'll still print it otherwise I'm going to cancel the order and I think that cost me like 15% restocking fee but I I

1004
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:30,199
it doesn't feel as relevant to me anym things have literally changed a lot has

1005
01:10:28,679 --> 01:10:33,600
changed since we created this shirt another way to look at it I'm probably

1006
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:38,640
still interested in kind of getting one is I still like Oculus and I still don't

1007
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:42,679
like Facebook I disliked Facebook before this whole situation and I still dislike

1008
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:47,560
Facebook that doesn't change so if you guys want it order it if you don't we're

1009
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:52,520
not making it so there you go doesn't matter okay and now everyone can Rejoice

1010
01:10:49,719 --> 01:10:59,480
because the Oculus topic is over and we're moving into our sponsors for today

1011
01:10:56,440 --> 01:11:01,239
so sponsor number one hey we're got oh

1012
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:05,600
that's the wrong one well it's still Intel but slightly more different so

1013
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:10,800
lonus Media Group is going to PAX East it's going to be Luke and Brandon and

1014
01:11:08,199 --> 01:11:15,679
this is mostly just a call out did I say Brandon I can probably go talk to them

1015
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:20,560
there to where who what Oculus they'll be at PEX East yes they will so Luke and

1016
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:24,760
Brandon will be there covering the show there will be actually I feel this is a

1017
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:29,719
good opportunity to promote this there will be a buildoff between the one and

1018
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:36,280
only slick PC and the one and only Paul's Hardware so Paul from new.tv they

1019
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:38,960
will be doing a PC build

1020
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:44,440
Showdown and I can't promise that there won't be any H Jinks or Shenanigans

1021
01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:50,000
throughout the entire thing both the lonus Media Group and New Egg TV crws

1022
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:55,239
will be filming the event and it will be streaming live on Twitch TV due to a

1023
01:11:53,159 --> 01:11:59,199
partnership between Newegg and Twitch TV TV and of course we love Twitch TV as

1024
01:11:57,719 --> 01:12:03,000
well we happen to be streaming there right now although I don't have to

1025
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:06,920
endorse Twitch TV in any way maybe I'll just say negative things about them just

1026
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:11,400
in case JN is watching right now twitch sucks John um anyway so twitch will be

1027
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:16,520
streaming it live which means that there will be no opportunity for any hij Jinks

1028
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:22,000
to be not streamed hink now everyone knows that

1029
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:25,199
something anyways no maybe nothing will happen maybe I'm just trying to get them

1030
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:29,520
to watch so that I get my big fat p check from Intel it could it could be it

1031
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:36,360
could be that overt so anyway guys stay tuned uh our

1032
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:40,120
other sponsor is Hotspot Shield and Hotspot Shield has kind of an

1033
01:12:37,719 --> 01:12:45,719
interesting thing going on right now they want you to design their new slogan

1034
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:49,600
so I'm just going to see if I can actually find it dang it I should have

1035
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:53,920
had the link ready before but Hotspot Shield is allowing you to come up with a

1036
01:12:52,520 --> 01:13:00,159
new slogan and what they're doing is they are giving away a bunch of elite

1037
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:03,159
accounts as a way to promote the contest

1038
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:05,920
so uh Hotspot Shield is the easy way to

1039
01:13:03,159 --> 01:13:10,560
set up a VPN their Elite service in particular is the one we recommend the

1040
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:14,760
complaints that I've seen about Hotspot Shield on the form or wherever else tend

1041
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:19,679
to be about their ad supported free version and let's just do a brief

1042
01:13:16,639 --> 01:13:22,719
rundown of how a VPN works and why you

1043
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:25,480
have to pay for one because it's

1044
01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:32,080
basically triplicating the amount of data being transferred back and forth if

1045
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,560
you go to a website instead of Hotspot

1046
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:37,040
Shield or instead of you just communicating directly to the website

1047
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:39,800
well I guess duplicating sorry okay so instead of you just communicating

1048
01:13:38,199 --> 01:13:44,080
directly to the website there is an intermediary Hub and that's going to be

1049
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:48,400
Hotspot Shield server so you send data to them they forward it to the website

1050
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:51,520
and then it goes that way back again so sorry doubling doubling the data being

1051
01:13:50,199 --> 01:13:58,080
sent back and forth so that means there is an actual bandwidth cost associated

1052
01:13:55,239 --> 01:14:03,480
with a VPN that's all there is to it a VPN that is free will be ad supported or

1053
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:06,679
supported in some other way so unless you're paying for it you are going to be

1054
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:11,440
stuck with some kind of intrusive ad service so that's why I recommend using

1055
01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:16,120
offer code Linus to get 20% off Elite it's super easy to set up and vpns allow

1056
01:14:13,639 --> 01:14:19,920
you to um hide who you are and where you're from from the websites that

1057
01:14:17,639 --> 01:14:23,400
you're visiting because all the traffic looks to them as if it's coming directly

1058
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:28,080
from Hotspot Shield it allows you to circumvent geographical restrictions in

1059
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:32,480
this way so if you wanted to watch you know us content and you're in the UK or

1060
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:36,239
UK content you're in the US all you do is configure Hotspot Shield to tell the

1061
01:14:34,679 --> 01:14:41,400
website where you're from somewhere other than where you're actually from you can go ahead and get around things

1062
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:45,840
like firewalls or censorship so that's one of the things that's really good for

1063
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:51,679
and I have finally located the link for the redesign the slogan contest so you

1064
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:56,159
can go ahead and it's actually on Facebook LOL someone is also telling me

1065
01:14:54,080 --> 01:15:00,679
that the contest is apparently over no I think it runs till April 4th all right

1066
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:04,280
something like that well then I guess they're wrong I don't know I just saw

1067
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:09,120
someone in the twitch chat be like the contest is over by the way yeah I don't

1068
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:14,280
know anyway okay well they told me April 4th I guess if it's over tell you what

1069
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:18,639
if it's over guys let me know and I'll arrange some giveaway Elite codes anyway

1070
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:23,040
and we'll do like a giveaway on the form or something cool so there you go my

1071
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:26,800
misunderstanding could turn into free Hotspot Shield accounts we actually did

1072
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:30,480
a giveaway a little while ago uh so guys try try out the uh the trial you don't

1073
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:36,080
actually have to start paying for it right away you can just get a trial at

1074
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:37,639
bit. lehs share and uh if you like it

1075
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:41,000
then let us know and we'll we'll see if we can arrange for something to happen

1076
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:47,679
even if I might have totally screwed that up all right so moving into our

1077
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:52,840
next topic here that is not

1078
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:55,520
Oculus Titan z d the card that everyone

1079
01:15:52,840 --> 01:16:03,239
was super unhappy wasn't a game you know what I don't even okay Titan Z

1080
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:06,120
is moderately interesting and people are

1081
01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:12,960
upset that NVIDIA is branding this as a gaming card but be okay yes it says

1082
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:15,520
GeForce yes it has Titan branding the

1083
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:22,239
most recent of which to contain that branding was marketed sort of as a

1084
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:25,120
gaming card but this is not a gaming

1085
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:29,440
card Jensen came right out and said said this is for people who want a

1086
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:32,280
supercomputer next to their desk it is

1087
01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:36,480
it it it doesn't make any sense for a gamer to buy a Titans Z he didn't say

1088
01:16:33,719 --> 01:16:40,360
that part because you know I think his statement was more along the lines of I

1089
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:44,159
mean if Gamers want to buy it then great uh then then great but I mean Titan's

1090
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:49,800
been selling like hot cakes but it's mostly intended for Cuda developers the

1091
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:51,960
only advantage of Titan over something

1092
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:56,400
like GTX 780 Ti so we're talking about the single GPU versions is the double

1093
01:16:54,360 --> 01:17:00,840
precision performance of Titan which is only useful in a production environment

1094
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:05,239
a coding environment double Precision doesn't mean your games run more

1095
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:09,280
accurately no game takes advantage obviously aim better yeah you'll aim

1096
01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:13,400
better so you combine that with Aimbot with and a sniper button and like U

1097
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:20,800
Flames painted on the side of your PC why not speed holes speed holes so Titan

1098
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:23,760
Z is not a gaming card why is it $3,000

1099
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:29,560
it's $3,000 because the kind of work it is intended to be used for would allow a

1100
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:34,520
budget of $3,000 to spend on a compute card for it that's why it has 12 gigs of

1101
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:40,320
RAM so 6 gigs per GPU and it's intended to allow a higher density of gk10

1102
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:47,199
Graphics cores to be installed in a single machine in a desktop type work

1103
01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:50,040
environment it is not a gaming card but

1104
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:56,639
because it happens to be GeForce and it will use GeForce drivers you can game on

1105
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:59,679
it if you want a quad SLI gk10

1106
01:17:56,639 --> 01:18:01,560
experience you'll just have to pay more

1107
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:08,239
but that same experience would be available to you if you bought four GTX

1108
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:11,480
780 Ti for a grand total of

1109
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:14,040
$2,800 and that would cost you six grand

1110
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:17,920
in Titan Z's and you will get the same performance unless you really need the

1111
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:22,679
six gigs of frame buffer per card in which case you could still buy four

1112
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:27,600
Titans and water cool them and spend like $1,500 less anyway

1113
01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:30,120
it's not a practical solution it wasn't intended to be the internet needs to get

1114
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:35,639
over it um oh there's a couple things so for

1115
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:39,040
context uh oh wait so yeah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah old Titan was

1116
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:47,360
something I think Anon Tech is estimating that it'll be clocked at around 700 MHz based on the uh based on

1117
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:49,440
the Giga flops or Tera flops or whatever

1118
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:53,920
that NVIDIA is quoting uh so that would be well below the performance of the

1119
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:58,360
Titan black So Not only would that other solution be cheaper it would also

1120
01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:05,360
perform better considerably faster this is something that really just kind of I

1121
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:11,080
part of me is outraged and part of me is like yeah this makes sense ASUS has a

1122
01:19:08,679 --> 01:19:19,199
gaming branded b85 board so this is an Intel

1123
01:19:15,679 --> 01:19:22,560
LGA 1150 board it supports you know four

1124
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:25,280
dim slots supports dual graphics cards

1125
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:30,719
it's got better onboard sound and like like it's got like a gamer

1126
01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:35,199
friendly color scheme it's not cold but

1127
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:39,159
it is not overclockable the b85 chipset

1128
01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:40,960
does not support overclocking at

1129
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:46,480
all so I would love to see you guys hit us

1130
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:50,960
up with a straw pole here this current audience is going to like this too much

1131
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:54,920
I don't think they will either but I have I have okay our discussion though

1132
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:57,679
while we wait for the straw pole results is that there's probably a large amount

1133
01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:02,320
of people that aren't going to overclock and want to buy a gaming board is your

1134
01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:06,679
is your CPU overclocked actually technically right now it is okay own

1135
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:11,000
Well mine's not I know and mine wasn't not that long

1136
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,880
ago it doesn't really matter right now

1137
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:17,080
my graphics card is definitely overclock when Star Citizen

1138
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:22,960
launches I will overclock the snot out of my CPU my graphics card is

1139
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:26,600
overclocked like crazy but I don't like

1140
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:28,639
yeah no not my CPU not so there you go

1141
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:32,840
that that's that's the that's the cold hard truth is not every gamer is an

1142
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:37,280
overclocker and Enthusiast and for so long overclocking boards were lumped in

1143
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:42,000
with gaming boards because the Assumption was that Gamers were Tweakers

1144
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:48,360
but most of the hardcore Gamers I know are not that into the hardware well my

1145
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:50,920
re hardore Gamers not like my reason is

1146
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:55,840
I have a profile locked in for my CPU that I have multiple profiles actually I

1147
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:58,600
have my like my stock um my like low

1148
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:02,719
overclock medium overclock and like ridiculous overclock and I have it

1149
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:06,440
currently on like a medium which is not really pushing it that hard right

1150
01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:10,800
because my ridiculous one is insane but when stares and starts really pushing my

1151
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,710
computer I'll just be like click l but then the lifespan of that CPU is going

1152
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:18,960
to go because I'm pushing it way too hard

1153
01:21:16,679 --> 01:21:23,480
and I know that all right NVIDIA looks beyond Maxwell This was posted on

1154
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:28,159
Hardware conu so actually for a while they were saying volto was coming after

1155
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:32,320
Maxwell but now they have removed Volta from the road map and replaced it

1156
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:38,600
instead with Pascal which is going to deliver unified memory 3D memory and NV

1157
01:21:36,199 --> 01:21:43,120
link and I'm actually not sure which is the most interesting out of all of these

1158
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:46,440
things so 3D memory has been talked about for a while it's going to be

1159
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:49,520
instrumental with Pascal NVIDIA claims they will be able to provide several

1160
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:53,560
times greater bandwidth which is going to be incredibly important for

1161
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:57,800
Resolutions Beyond 1080p they're saying more than twice the memory capacity and

1162
01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:03,920
quadruple the Energy Efficiency and when you look how energy efficient uh Maxwell

1163
01:22:00,679 --> 01:22:06,960
is already we could be looking at some

1164
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:09,679
seriously powerful Hardware in very

1165
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:12,800
small spaces powering like cloud gaming experiences within the home or whatever

1166
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:18,560
else the case may be talked about that a lot last week um the other big one to me

1167
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:21,760
is Envy link so here's a little picture that's also courtesy of Hardware conu

1168
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:26,600
thank you hardware conu for posting this I love you Mike um showing what Envy

1169
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:31,320
link will be exactly so we're not necessarily expecting Envy link to

1170
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:36,719
replace oh you guys can't see that part of the graphic I'm sorry there we go

1171
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:40,480
really okay well whatever my mouse my mouse is here so there's a little PCIe

1172
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:45,760
link labeled here so it's not going to replace PCI Express or anything but Envy

1173
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:52,080
link will be an efficient way for the gpus to communicate with each other so

1174
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:55,080
it would replace the current SLI Bridge

1175
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:58,080
much like AMD has done with XDM a on

1176
01:22:55,080 --> 01:23:01,679
their R9 series cards on the very very

1177
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:04,400
highend the r9290 series cards but um

1178
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:08,639
this will augment PCI Express allowing the gpus to communicate with each other

1179
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:14,280
and again not just for Crossfire or SLI type dual Graphics functionality but

1180
01:23:11,159 --> 01:23:15,679
instead for compute functionality giving

1181
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:20,320
them a much more efficient means of working together we there uh NVIDIA is

1182
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:26,360
saying this is going to be twice as efficient as PCI Express 3.0 and they

1183
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:30,159
call it feeding the app appetite for Big

1184
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:31,800
Data so um you know how much better

1185
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:35,960
could graphics cards work together in terms of frame pacing or whatever else

1186
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:40,239
if they had super high-s speeed interconnects if they had you know

1187
01:23:38,199 --> 01:23:44,679
double the memory bandwidth or several times the memory bandwidth to work with

1188
01:23:43,159 --> 01:23:47,760
well Al also hopefully this will help with just chopping and general

1189
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:52,320
crappiness that comes along with multiple GPU setups yep so that maybe we

1190
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:56,800
will all kind of embrace it more and that's probably what they're going for

1191
01:23:53,960 --> 01:24:04,719
so hope way better all right so more bad news for Bitcoin um vercure X has just

1192
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:07,840
gone insolvent that was about four days ago so they're basically the funny thing

1193
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:13,120
about what they're doing is at least they're being a bit more communicative about it than Mount goau was but they're

1194
01:24:10,679 --> 01:24:19,560
saying okay well we can either just shut down now because we're like out of

1195
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:22,159
Bitcoins or we can try to continue

1196
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:25,520
operating and then like pay that back slowly but if we just shut down now

1197
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:29,840
we're just not going to be able to pay it back at all and then one of the

1198
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:37,320
advantages of Bitcoins up till now is that taxation on them hasn't been very

1199
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:40,600
clear well new IRS rules in the US um

1200
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:43,360
anyway are now considering Bitcoin

1201
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:48,239
property so now it's property so you will pay taxes on it in much the same

1202
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:53,440
way as you would another investment or Capital assets such as well property so

1203
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:58,480
land or anything else like that so a payment made using virtual currency will

1204
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:02,760
be subject to information reporting to the same extent as any other payment

1205
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:07,920
made in property I don't know if you guys know this but technically if here

1206
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:13,400
in Canada anyway if you make a deal with someone that is a barter agreement so if

1207
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:18,560
I say uh you know I I'll fix your computer to a plumber and the plumber

1208
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:24,960
says okay I'll fix your sync we should both be reporting and paying taxes

1209
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:27,800
correctly on the face value of what

1210
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:31,920
those Services would have been the laws are very clear about this so

1211
01:25:29,719 --> 01:25:36,360
cryptocurrency has existed on this sort of we don't know what to do with this

1212
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:40,280
Cloud for a little while that's not the thing that's going to be happening

1213
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:45,040
anymore all right which isn't to say that it will necessarily be enforced

1214
01:25:42,199 --> 01:25:50,360
everywhere it just means that you'll be legally responsible for it not having

1215
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:54,639
been enforced portals coming to Shield which there's not a whole lot else to

1216
01:25:51,880 --> 01:26:00,000
really say about this other than it's happening now NVIDIA's been saying hey

1217
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:05,000
guys we're going to deliver last gen console grade experiences on handheld

1218
01:26:03,159 --> 01:26:10,480
they've been saying that for well it's happening now cuz portal that's a last

1219
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:15,880
gen console game and valve will be porting it to Android um so their their

1220
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,639
blog post is actually pretty darn interesting you guys should have a read

1221
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:23,560
of it later on I'm just going to post this in the twitch chat boom you guys

1222
01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:29,239
should check that out very very cool um not that relevant to me or really to

1223
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:30,960
anyone in general who owns a shield

1224
01:26:29,239 --> 01:26:36,480
necessarily because you already have game stream which is definitely a good

1225
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:40,480
enough experience to play portal with I played through the entirety of Portal 2

1226
01:26:38,679 --> 01:26:44,280
on NVIDIA Shield using gam stream I didn't touch my PC for the entire game

1227
01:26:43,239 --> 01:26:51,480
actually quite enjoyed it I just finished it did I tell you that yeah yeah really good obviously nothing

1228
01:26:48,719 --> 01:26:56,000
compares to portal one um it's good though like I couldn't have

1229
01:26:53,960 --> 01:27:00,000
really asked for much more nope good game and then the Steam Workshop makes

1230
01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:05,679
it so epic cuz you can just download custom maps I don't even really enjoy

1231
01:27:03,159 --> 01:27:09,960
solving portal puzzles that much you just like the story line I just really

1232
01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:17,760
enjoyed the the atmosphere and the humor and the story um GLaDOS is a fantastic

1233
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:19,159
character U with or without Caroline so

1234
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:22,560
yeah really really enjoyed it no one wants to hear about ancient games though

1235
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:28,239
more about Shield so here are the release notes of their upcoming firmware

1236
01:27:25,719 --> 01:27:32,000
update or well oh what the hell is this oh I guess this is old release notes

1237
01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:36,080
where you'll can stay tuned in a few days there are going to be some new

1238
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:40,040
Fantastic release notes because shield in the short nine or 10 months or

1239
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:45,600
however long it's been on the market has evolved significantly from kind of a

1240
01:27:43,119 --> 01:27:49,480
Nifty Android gaming device that had this weird like PC streaming feature in

1241
01:27:47,639 --> 01:27:54,719
beta that actually worked pretty well at launch but is better now to something

1242
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:58,239
that is a very compelling gaming platform compared to pretty much

1243
01:27:56,639 --> 01:28:03,000
anything else that you could buy from a handheld gaming perspective so now on

1244
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:07,960
top of game stream on top of um The teger Zone store where you can buy teger

1245
01:28:05,119 --> 01:28:11,520
optimize games game stream Works outside of the house NVIDIA has said on the

1246
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:16,600
conference call that we were no you weren't on it I was on it you had to

1247
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:17,920
talk to New Egg TV H anyway I was

1248
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:26,880
talking to NVIDIA while he was talking to New Egg TV that's just even I'm sorry but like

1249
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:28,719
that just doesn't even sound cool um so

1250
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:33,719
NVIDIA is saying you're going to need a strong mobile network connection or

1251
01:28:31,719 --> 01:28:37,239
whether you're on someone else's Wi-Fi like if I'm at the office here and I

1252
01:28:35,639 --> 01:28:41,280
want to game stream something at my house you're going to need 5 megabit up

1253
01:28:39,159 --> 01:28:45,159
and down in both places for optimal communication between the devices or I

1254
01:28:43,480 --> 01:28:50,000
mean they've even said you could do it on you know 4G LTE um but you're going

1255
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:54,520
to need 5 megabit up and down on both ends for a good experience and the way

1256
01:28:51,719 --> 01:28:59,080
it works is pretty similar to grid beta have you tried that yet grid beta yeah

1257
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:03,840
no I asked you last week it's on your Shield already oh no I wiped it before I

1258
01:29:01,639 --> 01:29:07,440
gave it to you okay check it out try grid beta I also have to install that

1259
01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:11,960
access point though so streaming from NVIDIA's servers down in California to

1260
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:18,080
here works like you can play Street Fighter um so anyway game stream Works

1261
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:22,840
outside of the house uh wake on land and remote login support is coming so this

1262
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:26,800
is a great feature for people who don't want to leave their PC on all the time

1263
01:29:24,639 --> 01:29:32,320
or like the number of times I've been in bed and I'm like yeah I want to fire oh

1264
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:36,920
my computer's asleep get up and go turn it on and Vlog in and go back to bed and

1265
01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:44,480
play my game it's like well if I wanted to get up I would have gone and played on my computer so that's being addressed

1266
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:50,360
could you install mobile team viewer on your yeah I could but just like La um

1267
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:55,719
and that wouldn't help with wake on land all right no notebook GPU support is

1268
01:29:53,440 --> 01:30:00,639
coming so you'll be able to game stream from your GeForce Kepler based GPU

1269
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:04,159
laptop which is very exciting for folks who have notebooks Bluetooth keyboard

1270
01:30:02,440 --> 01:30:07,440
and mouse support is coming in console mode the new teg rone has been

1271
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:11,239
redesigned to help you find compatible games even better although I almost

1272
01:30:09,159 --> 01:30:15,520
never touch Android games on it they all kind of suck I mean no offense to

1273
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:18,560
Android games but like compared to PC games that I can play on the thing my

1274
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:24,119
shield almost never leaves my home I just play PC games on it um it's going

1275
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:25,639
to get Android 4.4 Kit Kat uh better FPS

1276
01:30:24,119 --> 01:30:28,679
and bit rate controls much like what valve has been adding to inhome

1277
01:30:27,119 --> 01:30:31,400
streaming you're going to be able to say Okay I want this bit rate I want this

1278
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:35,480
FPS and you're going to have much more granular control they have a better

1279
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:38,760
Gamepad mapper with a more intuitive UI so you can take Android games if you

1280
01:30:37,119 --> 01:30:44,040
play them and then you can remap your buttons to the screen and an even better

1281
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:46,000
way and for a limited time it's only 200

1282
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:50,600
bucks so for a month NVIDIA Shield is $200 and at that price I think it's a

1283
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:54,639
great value I would buy one I'll say that outright I've even just watched

1284
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:57,360
videos on it it's a lot easier to manage especially while you're in bed than your

1285
01:30:56,040 --> 01:31:02,360
phone oh yeah we haven't talked about this is it a tablet yeah I use it like a

1286
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:06,280
tablet because I was able to just like kind of prop it up and you've never even

1287
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,960
been sold on the whole tablet concept well I'm still not sold on the whole

1288
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:14,679
tablet concept but another thing that I'm really excited for is when Hearthstone gets moved to tablets and

1289
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:19,080
phone phones um so that I can install it on my shield that'll make Shield so much

1290
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:22,440
better cuz Hearthstone I've always been like this is really cool but I want to

1291
01:31:21,119 --> 01:31:26,320
be playing something a little bit heavier while I'm at my computer and

1292
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:29,800
this cuz this is just weird whereas if you're like just in bed if I'm just like

1293
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:34,360
chilling but can't sleep yet it's like all right play a card game like hearstone hearst's fun it's just

1294
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:39,560
freaking awesome I'm sitting on my computer I'm just like I love Shi for $200 that's a no-brainer for me um okay

1295
01:31:38,719 --> 01:31:45,800
so NVIDIA also talked a lot about directx12

1296
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:50,280
on the call and some of this stuff was uh pretty relevant so I I teased this at

1297
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:54,840
the beginning of the show but uh mantle support is not coming to NVIDIA gpus

1298
01:31:52,639 --> 01:32:03,159
near you no matter how open AMD makes the platform um and I don't care

1299
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:05,880
anymore the mantle hype train like I

1300
01:32:03,159 --> 01:32:09,480
think it was to me both you know what I'm going to criticize both of them

1301
01:32:07,239 --> 01:32:13,400
right now AMD really mismanaged the mantle hype train in much the same way

1302
01:32:11,239 --> 01:32:19,199
that NVIDIA has mismanaged the g-sync hype train both really cool Technologies

1303
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:23,960
looked really important talked about way too early no follow through no follow

1304
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:29,840
through yet I mean g-sync monitors are coming but g-sync monitors need to be

1305
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:33,880
ubiquitous every monitor needs to be a g-sync monitor anything branded to

1306
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:37,880
Gamers needs to be a g-sync monitor and pricing needs to be reasonable and we

1307
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:41,000
might see that in a year or two years um and then mantle same thing it needs to

1308
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:47,679
be everywhere or it's not going to make a at launch yes so um NVIDIA made some

1309
01:32:46,119 --> 01:32:54,360
really interesting points about directx12 so 79% of the DirectX 11 gpus

1310
01:32:52,800 --> 01:33:00,000
according to the steam service survey support direct X12 while 39 no it was

1311
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:04,679
less than that I thought it was like 11% support mantle or something oh no 39% of

1312
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:08,280
the direct X1 gpus no that math isn't right okay these are old notes I'm sorry

1313
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:13,800
uh they updated the numbers but it was like much much lower support mantle and

1314
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:18,760
uh star they're saying star swarm is better with the new 780 Ti DirectX

1315
01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:23,560
drivers than the 290x with mantle so there's a new driver coming um are those

1316
01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:29,040
really properly compared gpus they are not quite but it depends on the pricing

1317
01:33:26,119 --> 01:33:33,800
of 290x and it's enough only in North America is that really happening it's

1318
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:38,280
enough better than 29x that even at MSRP they're about equal in terms of price to

1319
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:42,480
Performance so if directx12 or even DirectX 11 updated driver can be equal

1320
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:46,080
to what AMD is already delivering with mantle in Star swarm I was saying the

1321
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:49,880
other way around though 78 TI is unproportionately expensive is it not no

1322
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:56,159
cuz it performs a little better and it's a little more expensive than a 290x 290x

1323
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:58,239
is 600 780 Ti is around 730 is it really

1324
01:33:56,159 --> 01:34:02,320
everywhere uh no this is just based on the lowest prices I could find for both

1325
01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:06,600
of them on New Egg yeah but what I'm SRP though that's not jacked up prices yeah

1326
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:10,040
it's all good everything's okay so if they can deliver the same performance

1327
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:17,400
with the new directx11 driver that AMD can deliver with mantle on a admittedly

1328
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:20,040
mantle optimized Benchmark and directx12

1329
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:25,639
is going to improve things even further then um yeah Unreal Engine 4 will

1330
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:30,719
support DirectX 12 and NVIDIA says they've been working on directx12 for 4

1331
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:35,080
years so this isn't a knee-jerk reaction for Microsoft like ignoramuses like us

1332
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:40,520
might have assumed when we went oh I guess they're talking about direct X2 so

1333
01:34:37,679 --> 01:34:46,040
early because they're reacting to mantle um nope not so much so there you go guys

1334
01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:50,880
whatever ends up happening we're probably all going to be gaming on Windows for the foreseeable future

1335
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:57,679
unless I mean a lot of good news came out about openg last week as well um

1336
01:34:54,719 --> 01:35:02,080
or somehow mantle figures things out or I don't

1337
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:04,159
know I think we're probably going to be

1338
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:09,159
pretty much done here let's do two more so our better than Bieber segment this

1339
01:35:06,119 --> 01:35:14,560
week we need music that goes along with

1340
01:35:09,159 --> 01:35:17,040
this is that the Titanic 2 is coming to

1341
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:21,960
uh actually no it's real it's not it's not it's not a movie it's not a game

1342
01:35:19,239 --> 01:35:30,520
this was kind of weird new cruise ship to be built by Centric uh billionaire

1343
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:32,119
Clive Palmer and will be as his has

1344
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:37,960
accurate to the experience of the original Titanic as makes sense or

1345
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:43,119
probably more so so the third class passengers will be in like cramped

1346
01:35:40,199 --> 01:35:48,080
horrible rooms before be below water level and the first class passengers

1347
01:35:45,639 --> 01:35:54,239
will be in these opulent beautiful mahogany covered rooms just like the

1348
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:57,280
original Titanic um

1349
01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:59,880
Palmer did when when asked about unsync

1350
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:04,440
ability hold on say let's just see if I yeah when asked if about unsn ability he

1351
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:08,800
did not go as far as to call it Unsinkable a jinx famously applied to

1352
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:15,239
the original vessel anything will sink if you put a hole in it Palmer joked uh

1353
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:17,840
and they are expected to um to set sail

1354
01:36:15,239 --> 01:36:22,719
in 2017 the ship is currently being built in China it's kind of I don't even

1355
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:29,440
know what to think about it if you were going to go on a Cruise no I don't care

1356
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:35,320
at all okay you were going to go on a cruise would you go on a cruise on a

1357
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:37,040
Titanic replica no okay CU I'm going to

1358
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:41,520
pay so little that I'm going to get stuck in that crapshoot underwater level

1359
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:45,840
and I'm going to hate it I'm not going to care about the experience of living

1360
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:49,880
in like essentially a jail cell at the bottom of a boat and I'm just going to

1361
01:36:47,719 --> 01:36:54,480
be like this is super dumb is it that different from working here no

1362
01:36:55,639 --> 01:37:04,159
all right really important law change in the UK dis media ripping will be

1363
01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:11,280
legalized this summer in the UK this was posted on the Forum by methus szo and

1364
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:15,520
the UK government has published a guide informing consumers that an upcoming

1365
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:21,520
revision of copyright law will legalize CD and DVD ripping for personal use

1366
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:30,760
good that wasn't even a slow clap I'm sorry if that came across that was a

1367
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:34,880
like very satisfied that was like this should have happened 100 billion years

1368
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:39,480
ago the original source is torrent freak here um it's coming into effect in the

1369
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:44,040
June July time frame and the law is still very clear that if you make a

1370
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:49,239
backup it is for personal use it is not for you to put on a you know like server

1371
01:37:47,599 --> 01:37:53,679
that you rent somewhere and then give everyone in your dog access to that's

1372
01:37:51,199 --> 01:37:57,159
not what this law change is intended for you can still sell your physical media

1373
01:37:55,639 --> 01:38:02,880
but you will be expected to delete all of the backup copies you're still very

1374
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:05,320
much expected to buy media but you will

1375
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:09,719
be allowed to play it back on any device you

1376
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:11,159
own this is so weird right now like some

1377
01:38:09,719 --> 01:38:15,000
of the laws going around about this because like you buy a song and then

1378
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:20,000
it's like the only medium you can play it on iTunes is iTunes or like if you

1379
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:24,159
buy a physical copy of the disc in a lot of places it's like good luck carry on a

1380
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:28,199
CD player with you like they're like no you can't copy it

1381
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:32,639
to MP3 player cuz that's another copy and it's like what the hell is even

1382
01:38:30,599 --> 01:38:37,199
happening I'm happy that something like this stepped in I mean people do it

1383
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:41,480
anyway like it's going to happen but you might as well legalize it so we can stop

1384
01:38:39,119 --> 01:38:46,800
seeing discussion on it about it anymore and like what's his name's mom going to

1385
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:49,440
jail for 80 billion doar because her son

1386
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:54,119
downloaded five songs like this is just stupid well that's different that's

1387
01:38:51,599 --> 01:38:57,760
we're we're not talking py downloaded then copied off of his own thing it

1388
01:38:55,880 --> 01:39:01,280
doesn't matter the same thing happens yeah we're tired of this whole thing and

1389
01:39:00,199 --> 01:39:06,599
people that didn't actually do anything wrong wrong I mean I I I think there's

1390
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:10,840
still going to be some debate because what about families is my wife allowed to listen to

1391
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:16,440
my song but then like your wife is allowed

1392
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:17,800
to wear your shirt yes but the law says

1393
01:39:16,440 --> 01:39:25,440
it's for personal use and they specifically say not to give friends access is my wife my friend are my kids

1394
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:27,880
my friends I don't know I mean valve is

1395
01:39:25,440 --> 01:39:32,560
opening up Family Sharing for games which is really cool which is really

1396
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:36,239
cool but that doesn't mean that this law

1397
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:38,080
allows like you know if I if I play this

1398
01:39:36,239 --> 01:39:41,520
song at a party is that a public demonstration did I own the rights for

1399
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:46,599
that like all that stuff is still very gray area in terms of ownership but you

1400
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:51,199
know like when because they specifically say if you have like a Nas you can't

1401
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:55,679
give your friends access to it and to to to play back this media yeah but like

1402
01:39:53,840 --> 01:40:03,040
my family is going to have access to my NZ yeah so so that's weird all right

1403
01:40:00,159 --> 01:40:09,520
well I think that is pretty much it for the show this week um I was planning to

1404
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:11,080
do my first impressions of the HTC1 M8

1405
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:16,400
but I think we've somewhat run out of time I will have a review coming so far

1406
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:21,599
I'm actually pretty impressed with some things that I wasn't expecting to be

1407
01:40:18,679 --> 01:40:27,719
impressed by I have 42% battery on it having used it quite heavily normally my

1408
01:40:24,199 --> 01:40:29,960
old one runs out during the show because

1409
01:40:27,719 --> 01:40:35,159
I'm using navigation to like go run errands on my way back from NCI and I'm

1410
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:39,199
on my phone like constantly at NC because I don't bring out my computer

1411
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:43,080
there to you know read the the document for w show and all that kind of stuff

1412
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:50,599
and I have 42% right now which is pretty impressive the camera is actually quite

1413
01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:52,800
strong um in spite of the lack of people

1414
01:40:50,599 --> 01:40:55,840
asking for straw pull results but do you even have that link still yeah I

1415
01:40:54,159 --> 01:41:00,080
probably do actually I'll I'll grab that sorry about that guys um the camera is

1416
01:40:58,119 --> 01:41:03,679
really really strong the build quality feels even more solid I think it's going

1417
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:07,480
to be a bit of a mixed bag in terms of how people perceive it when I went to

1418
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:12,760
the Bell store last night to get a nano okay I guess I'm doing my first impressions of the M8 all right so when

1419
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:14,520
I went to the Bell store last night um I

1420
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:19,320
I said I needed a nano SIM and they were and they were like oh why do you need one of those did you get an iPhone and I

1421
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:22,840
was like no I it's for um this and I pulled out of my pocket like everyone in

1422
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:28,560
the store who worked there was like and like ran over and came and looked at it

1423
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:34,320
and the reaction was very positive there to the metal um seamless backing uh

1424
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:38,159
whereas some people are complaining that it's too slick and almost plasticky

1425
01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:43,080
looking like I showed it to someone at NC today who was like oh well why would

1426
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:47,000
they take metal and make it look and feel as much like plastic as they

1427
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:50,599
possibly could overall the construction in the flex of the phone is a very

1428
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:54,719
strong point for it so the metal construction is definitely doing something it's just whether whether or

1429
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:58,239
not you prefer that or not it's up to you it is a little bit bigger which I'm

1430
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:03,880
finding a little bit awkward right now as I go through that transition period

1431
01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:05,639
again but it's only about3 in um the

1432
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:10,440
voice quality on it is outstanding I I usually comment on voice

1433
01:42:08,679 --> 01:42:14,760
quality in my reviews and I kind of say well it's a phone you put one end to

1434
01:42:12,599 --> 01:42:18,599
your face and the other end to someone else's face and there's a wireless link

1435
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:22,800
between them or something um and it sounds all right but this one really

1436
01:42:20,119 --> 01:42:28,320
blew me away with how good people sound uh through the hand through the handset

1437
01:42:25,719 --> 01:42:32,920
uh blink feed has I I quite like Sense 6.0 so far it's really subtle they

1438
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:37,880
haven't it doesn't feel that different from the stock Google UI really and

1439
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:43,159
maybe part of it is that I started out with sense whereas a lot of people

1440
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:44,840
started out with with other skins but I

1441
01:42:43,159 --> 01:42:49,760
I quite like it it doesn't get in my way at all and they've added a few little subtle things like the double tap to

1442
01:42:47,719 --> 01:42:54,400
wake up is there now there are some gesture controls that right now are a

1443
01:42:51,480 --> 01:42:58,599
little bit hit or miss so for example if you lift it up and then press the volume

1444
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:03,000
button there you go that launched the camera but it doesn't work 100% of the

1445
01:43:00,599 --> 01:43:06,440
time uh camera modes again very very cool so you can do things like um here

1446
01:43:05,199 --> 01:43:10,080
I'm going to show you guys this because it's actually like quite neat okay so

1447
01:43:08,599 --> 01:43:14,320
here I'm going to get Jake the dog behind you there okay and then I'm going

1448
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:19,520
to get up and refocus that so you guys can actually see this so some of

1449
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:23,159
the yeah just going point the mic at myself so some of the camera effects

1450
01:43:21,119 --> 01:43:27,880
that you can do are kind of neat so let's just see what

1451
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:32,840
the there we go all right so here's a picture of this guy so we're going to go

1452
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:37,040
ahead and edit the picture so their refocusing feature it's not perfect but

1453
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:42,119
check it out so I could focus on Jake the dog if I felt like it there you go

1454
01:43:39,599 --> 01:43:45,480
and it it detects reasonably well what's in the foreground with those dual

1455
01:43:43,599 --> 01:43:48,800
cameras in the front that's kind of neat you can only really apply one effect at

1456
01:43:47,239 --> 01:43:53,199
a time which I was a little bit disappointed with but you can go and you

1457
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:56,880
can apply like effects to the background obviously they're going to need to add

1458
01:43:54,520 --> 01:44:02,360
more than four of them to make this worthwhile as a feature um but I mean we

1459
01:44:00,199 --> 01:44:06,400
saw them add more things with their uh with their Gallery viewing features in

1460
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:11,480
the past some of the stuff is just kind of goofy like let's put like blossoms

1461
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:16,840
all over him or something but this is neat so they have kind of like a

1462
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:21,000
parallax effect so you can see a

1463
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:22,599
little it's mostly faked but it still is

1464
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:27,159
like kind of neat you can see the boxes behind them kind of like stuck to his

1465
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:33,239
head there a little bit so so there's that um and then I haven't actually

1466
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:35,480
tried touch-up yet but let's uh let's do

1467
01:44:33,239 --> 01:44:42,599
anti-shine yeah that's a face okay done I don't know if that did

1468
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:44,080
anything okay well either way um I think

1469
01:44:42,599 --> 01:44:46,280
the biggest challenge whoops we're out of

1470
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:56,760
focus I think the biggest challenge for the M8 is going to be the price because

1471
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:59,000
a year ago or two years ago um $700 for

1472
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:04,480
a flagship phone was like okay that's how much a flagship phone costs whereas

1473
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:07,280
now with the Nexus 5 at $350 for the

1474
01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:11,119
equivalent memory model you better be delivering $350 of additional value and

1475
01:45:09,719 --> 01:45:15,679
the fact that it's missing wireless charging to me is a huge knock against

1476
01:45:13,679 --> 01:45:19,800
it especially because we're still using micro USB we're still stuck with the

1477
01:45:17,480 --> 01:45:24,119
standard and the micro USB port recently failed on my one which I've only had for

1478
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:29,000
about a year that's a good point micro USB ports failing strikes again for

1479
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:32,320
lonus because he has like the worst luck ever or he's a terrible person or

1480
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:36,320
whatever whatever your perception of micro USB might be it doesn't work very

1481
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:40,119
well for me and wireless charging is a really good way to not have to wear out

1482
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:43,920
the connectors on your phone unnecessarily the screen is absolutely

1483
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:49,080
beautiful but we've come to expect that from HTC like it's really good even

1484
01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:52,520
though the pixels per inch the the actual pixel density is slightly lower

1485
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:57,080
than the old one because of the larger screen 1080p resolution it looks

1486
01:45:54,480 --> 01:46:01,800
absolutely beautiful it's extremely Snappy um I guess that's pretty much all

1487
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:08,719
I have to say for now so there you go all right oh I like

1488
01:46:06,119 --> 01:46:11,560
their new uh sound scheme sound scheme yeah like the the noises it makes when

1489
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:16,280
you like do things like Samsung's like super stupid

1490
01:46:14,119 --> 01:46:21,760
one HTC's was always okay I like the new one even better cool thank you guys very

1491
01:46:19,639 --> 01:46:26,639
much for tuning into to the WAN Show this week I hope you enjoyed it as much

1492
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:29,040
as we did w show Oculus Edition coming

1493
01:46:26,639 --> 01:46:33,239
to a theater near you if you thought this was great and you need to see more

1494
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:38,480
news on Oculus maybe we can do a full featurelength Oculus W show and we well

1495
01:46:37,159 --> 01:46:44,840
I'm I'm going to be talking about in the after because we only actually got

1496
01:46:40,679 --> 01:46:47,360
through the like what happened part we

1497
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:51,080
didn't even get to do the our thoughts part so I'm going to be talking about a

1498
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:54,320
bunch of stuff in the Afterparty pretty much the entire Afterparty is going to

1499
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:58,560
be about Ulus so if you want to see anything that's not about Oculus peace

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01:46:56,440 --> 01:47:03,199
out don't bother show up uh guys here's the straw po result that we uh talked

1501
01:47:01,159 --> 01:47:06,400
about earlier I'm interested yeah I'm interested too I actually I posted it in

1502
01:47:05,239 --> 01:47:10,960
the thread but I haven't actually clicked it yet there we go I'm assuming

1503
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:17,159
so results all right so not overclocked is

1504
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:24,719
39% look at that hand overclocked greater than 1 GHz

1505
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:26,920
is 22% Auto overclocked is 7 1% so both

1506
01:47:24,719 --> 01:47:31,320
of those folks will not really be able to do anything with a B series chipset

1507
01:47:29,239 --> 01:47:37,599
hand overclocked greater than 500 mehz hand overclocked and underclocked so 40%

1508
01:47:34,639 --> 01:47:42,880
of you won't give any cares about a b85 board that has all the gaming Centric

1509
01:47:40,159 --> 01:47:46,360
features without any of the overclocking Centric features even though those two

1510
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:50,400
things have been one and the same for so long fascinating yeah that is actually

1511
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:54,119
really interesting cuz I still want the option so that I can and I still do do

1512
01:47:52,960 --> 01:48:00,679
it I just don't necessarily run it all the time I just switch my profile fairly actively I just moved to Ive which I've

1513
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:03,920
never overclocked before so I'm going to I'm going to be playing around with that

1514
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:09,639
once I take my system home oh my personal rig update is done being edited

1515
01:48:06,719 --> 01:48:12,320
it's half an hour long did I tell you how long it it's more than half an hour

1516
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:17,960
expected it would be at least it's like 35 minutes and it has the most B- roll

1517
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:24,239
we've ever shot for a video yeah how how what was the data size on that again uh

1518
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:27,480
hey Brandon are you still here yeah uh

1519
01:48:24,239 --> 01:48:28,239
how many gigs of b-roll did you shoot of

1520
01:48:27,480 --> 01:48:36,000
my system 86 86 gigs of b-roll and that's

1521
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:38,480
in prores 1080P it is going to be our

1522
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:41,000
most beautiful video ever um something to note actually I don't know if you

1523
01:48:39,719 --> 01:48:47,320
guys have noticed this but if you go back and look at our last couple of Corsair case reviews we are using a new

1524
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:52,119
recording setup it's still on the Sony fs700 but it's actually using an

1525
01:48:49,599 --> 01:48:57,920
external recorder that allows us instead of record Rec in at 1080p to record at

1526
01:48:55,159 --> 01:49:02,400
4K to the internal recorder and then down sample to 1080p with a much better

1527
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:07,119
codec that retains a lot more of the image information so we're using prores

1528
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:10,880
now instead of abch HD I personally noticed a big difference in the

1529
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:14,119
sharpness and detail of the footage but I haven't really seen anyone comment

1530
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:19,920
about it so you guys should let me know if you actually noticed my how much did

1531
01:49:17,639 --> 01:49:26,360
that stupid thing cost

1532
01:49:21,719 --> 01:49:29,520
yeah 2500 bucks apparently nobody even

1533
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:30,840
noticed but but we're not quite at the

1534
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:36,920
limit of its capability there's a firmware update coming that will allow us to record in 4k and then we will

1535
01:49:34,239 --> 01:49:42,440
start releasing all of our videos in 4k so yeah yeah that's been coming for so

1536
01:49:40,119 --> 01:49:46,040
long though I know I bought a 4K capable camera a year and a half ago and it's

1537
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:48,920
still not able to actually do it and still not able to actually well it could

1538
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:53,800
be if I was willing to spend like $99,000 on Sony's solution which is

1539
01:49:51,199 --> 01:49:58,360
ridiculous yeah no like not even as good right yeah it's not as flexible yeah so

1540
01:49:56,440 --> 01:50:07,129
that's stupid all right peace out guys we'll see you next week bye everybody