WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:08.000 dasung promised that their paper like you would be the world's first eink 00:00:04.640 --> 00:00:10.160 monitor that was actually usable we felt 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.920 usable was a pretty strong word there's supposed to be text up here you're 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:18.520 terrifying here but never mind that they said we have a new monitor that will be 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:24.640 more powerful more sexy and more colorful than you could possibly imagine 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:26.640 okay wait though colored eink now 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:35.440 they've got my attention and apparently yours as well here it is 00:00:30.560 --> 00:00:39.280 okay that's pretty cool boasting 3K 00:00:35.440 --> 00:00:42.000 resolution the 25.3 inch paperlike color 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:48.160 boasts full color ultra speed refresh rate special xcolor filter technology a 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:51.280 multicolored front light and even a 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:54.039 stylish backl but is the grass really 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:57.800 greener now that the grass is really green well you guys saw the title so you 00:00:56.879 --> 00:01:02.199 know it's going to be a little complicated so let's dive into the Tech 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:07.040 that makes this thing tick and see how it handles everything from the use case 00:01:04.559 --> 00:01:15.119 that it was designed for to ones that are well o o o funnier like this funny 00:01:11.720 --> 00:01:16.960 segue to our sponsor War Thunder you got 00:01:15.119 --> 00:01:21.479 to admit it would be pretty cool to fly a jet or drive a tank well War Thunder 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:27.000 gameplay is about as close as you can get from the comfort of Home play for 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:29.880 free at the link below E in the kleenex 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:35.000 of electrooptic displays works by susp spending charged pigment particles in a 00:01:32.600 --> 00:01:39.159 capsule filled with viscous liquid the capsule gets placed between two 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:43.759 transparent electrodes that can send a charge either attracting the particles 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:48.520 to one side or attracting them to the other side of the capsule if you zoom 00:01:46.479 --> 00:01:52.360 way in and you slow things down a bit you can actually see the individual 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:57.240 particles floating to the surface of the capsule then you just take a bunch of 00:01:54.640 --> 00:02:03.200 those capsules put them in an array and you got an eink display but how dides 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:05.680 color work well okay one thing you could 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:10.560 do is you could add colored pigment to your capsules but now hold on a second 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:14.640 if all we can have is a positive or A negative charge well how do we make sure 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:19.519 that it's the colored particles that rise to the surface of the capsule well 00:02:16.920 --> 00:02:23.879 we can change the size of the particle if we add slightly larger particles to 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:29.160 the mix then we can take advantage of the momentum of larger particles so we 00:02:26.760 --> 00:02:33.160 can hold the positive charge just a bit longer and those larger particles will 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:38.000 accelerate and smash their way to the top pushing the smaller particles out of 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:42.280 the way but wait a second hold the charge longer you mean even longer than 00:02:40.480 --> 00:02:48.879 a black and white e in display yeah like two frames per minute 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:51.400 longer so clearly desung had to go a 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:57.120 different route let's take a closer look using this handy dandy USB microscope we 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:59.640 can zoom way in on this Monitor and see 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:03.720 exactly what's going on here would you look look at that just like the monitor 00:03:01.920 --> 00:03:11.319 or TV that you're watching this on right now it uses a color filter on top of the 00:03:07.519 --> 00:03:14.560 E Ink layer but if we look closely 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:17.319 things get pretty weird what is this sub 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:22.000 pixel layout okay we need red green and blue in order to make white right so 00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:26.280 here's a triangular pixel with my red green and my blue that I need to make 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:31.080 white right and you know here's another one but the problem is that in order to 00:03:29.239 --> 00:03:36.760 make another pixel that's right in line with this one I've got to go way over 00:03:33.200 --> 00:03:39.519 here I'm missing an entire row oh wait 00:03:36.760 --> 00:03:43.159 okay no I see it we can have a triangle here and then we can have a triangle 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:48.000 here and one here and one here and they're kind of offset and if we look 00:03:45.920 --> 00:03:54.079 closely at the surface of the display it's got almost like these denim lines 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:59.959 running through it so that makes sense our subpixel layout is these nested 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:07.000 triangles is what I would tell myself good job lonus if it wasn't for the fact 00:04:02.720 --> 00:04:09.079 that these are not sub pixels every 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:16.880 pixel on this 3200x 1800 display is either red green 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:22.440 or blue to show you how this pans out in the real world we made this test image 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:25.400 that is a 3200 by 18800 checkerboard 00:04:22.440 --> 00:04:32.520 pattern now every other pixel should be black and every other pixel should 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:37.320 be a color I mean if you look at the 00:04:32.520 --> 00:04:39.560 display it's kind of gray so in a sense 00:04:37.320 --> 00:04:47.479 this red green and blue are making whitish but how do they advertise this 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:50.520 thing as 3200 by 1800 well my friends 00:04:47.479 --> 00:04:53.919 because even though not every one of our 00:04:50.520 --> 00:04:57.160 pixels can impact Hue every one of our 00:04:53.919 --> 00:04:59.960 pixels does impact the brightness and 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:05.080 saturation of that square and the overall sharpness which is why we need 00:05:02.280 --> 00:05:09.960 to stop using the word resolution to describe pixel count but that's a 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:14.320 lecture for another day let's play with this thing let's try zooming in to see 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:20.680 how this thing is going to handle larger checkerboard oh that is cool you can 00:05:17.880 --> 00:05:27.000 actually watch the transitions you can see the particles as they 00:05:23.919 --> 00:05:29.880 slowly darken or brighten let's see what 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:33.440 happens when I move my cursor across it oh hey oh hey oh how you doing there 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:37.919 buddy there's the little thingies on the hand icon as you can probably imagine 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:43.600 though on a display that can only sort of produce white gray introduces some 00:05:41.440 --> 00:05:49.919 unique challenges let's go ahead and have a look at the no signal screen oh 00:05:47.080 --> 00:05:57.759 wow those are not supposed to look like that are they so it's trash then well 00:05:55.319 --> 00:06:02.600 not quite so far everything we've done has been weird test patterns what about 00:06:00.080 --> 00:06:07.199 real world usage well the first thing I notice about it is that uh we still have 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:12.000 the same issue as last time where you're going to see the ghost of whatever it is 00:06:09.599 --> 00:06:17.680 you were doing last on top of any new content unless you clear the display and 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:20.960 do a slow refresh okay drawing in green 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:23.280 it's like kind of greenish I can see 00:06:20.960 --> 00:06:28.360 every single Pixel with the naked eye that is not something I'm used to this 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:31.720 is an LGH HDR test video that you guys can go watch on your own if you want to 00:06:29.919 --> 00:06:35.759 have some idea of what it's supposed to look like to be fair this is like the 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:39.039 worst case scenario for this monitor the ghosting on black is way worse than when 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:44.199 it's ghosting on white it's not for watching video but how does it compare 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:49.000 to the non-color one do we have the old oh we have the old one it's right 00:06:45.960 --> 00:06:52.479 here you know what I think the ghosting 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:54.639 is better on the new one oh yeah I mean 00:06:52.479 --> 00:06:58.479 that's something at least let's see how they hold up NVIDIA though so we'll do 00:06:56.199 --> 00:07:02.360 the classic clear and then I'm going to go ahead and start our giant movie CD 00:07:00.960 --> 00:07:05.599 laser disc before we do that we should make sure these are in the same mode 00:07:04.039 --> 00:07:13.000 these have five different speeds that they can refresh at we got uh fast mhm 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:15.199 uh fast plus fast plus plus fast plus 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:22.160 plus plus uh-huh and fast plus Plus+ plus right okay video mode with both of 00:07:18.440 --> 00:07:25.680 them fast plus plus plus 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:28.479 plus I don't know how much I I need the 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:32.599 color I was about to say I really appreciate having theor color well I 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:36.680 mean like look here like you just have these like weird specks of green like 00:07:34.440 --> 00:07:41.639 nothing's really filled in it's all sporadic and I feel like it looks a lot 00:07:38.919 --> 00:07:45.879 smoother with the gray yeah but that shot didn't have a lot of color in it so 00:07:44.039 --> 00:07:51.919 you weren't really getting that benefit at least this plant is green like look 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:54.120 look here oh at least I can appreciate 00:07:51.919 --> 00:07:58.400 the you know the glinting light off of this laser disc what even is that but 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:04.759 did you notice that the front light is on no I mean does that 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:06.919 matter wait this one doesn't have the 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:13.599 light on at all okay compared to our black and white 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:20.400 display the color filter ends up wasting a ton of Light which defeats the purpose 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:24.080 kind of cuz the point of e in right is it's supposed to be more like the 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:30.039 experience of reading off of a piece of paper with natural ambient light and on 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:34.919 the original black and white one we can totally do that the brightness of this 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:41.159 to my eye is actually comparable to this one with the front light activated and 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:47.240 we found that so much light was lost that we almost always preferred to have 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:51.279 the front light on you guys can see just 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:52.800 how dim it is with it powered off but 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:57.240 maybe there's a use case where it's still worth the tradeoff let's take a 00:08:54.959 --> 00:09:00.920 look at word processing and document creation oh this is even great cuz we 00:08:58.839 --> 00:09:09.680 have highlights and stuff in here yeah like that's ooh really bad oh goodness 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:12.240 it's really not sharp even with a clear 00:09:09.680 --> 00:09:15.880 that looks like ass what if we try changing the mode okay sure I mean I 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:20.440 should put this one in text mode too then text mode is very very very 00:09:18.040 --> 00:09:24.720 aggressive with oh you want it black like look at this it's blue let's go up 00:09:22.040 --> 00:09:29.399 one level oh no that's black now the sharpness is okay now but I would never 00:09:26.880 --> 00:09:35.640 edit text at this size no like I'd be working probably more like this I think 00:09:33.680 --> 00:09:40.200 I would rather have my gray lighting over here than this highlighting over 00:09:37.760 --> 00:09:43.760 here with this low resolution text let's say I was willing to accept those 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:47.640 compromises though how usable is this let's take this document from roasting 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:52.000 SB and Creator gaming setups and try and make some edits to it I just hold on I'm 00:09:49.640 --> 00:09:56.920 just trying to fix the formatting here okay what is happening right now 00:09:54.880 --> 00:10:02.120 that's the page break there's a page break I can't even see it here you can 00:09:59.560 --> 00:10:08.959 totally see it on this one yeah but to be fair we are in text mode so text mode 00:10:05.760 --> 00:10:10.600 look no no no no if text mode is not 00:10:08.959 --> 00:10:14.839 what you need for editing a text document then they no there you go I 00:10:13.160 --> 00:10:18.920 just changed the contrast but okay the rest of it you didn't finagle enough I 00:10:16.920 --> 00:10:21.600 can barely even read this now you should have finagled more well that's okay now 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:25.279 you can press your page break and then you can go like this and change your 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:30.839 mode so that's back to be better you know there also this is supposed to be 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:34.120 yellow mhm you wanted me to try to game on this thing oh yeah we're going to 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:38.320 game on this thing but let's you know what let's do what color e Inc does best 00:10:35.760 --> 00:10:43.800 let's look at some Comics yes I could see that being a legitimate use case for 00:10:40.560 --> 00:10:46.000 this uh that's not that great lus what I 00:10:43.800 --> 00:10:54.800 tell you about finagling I'm working on the I'm working on it oh a graphic mode 00:10:52.680 --> 00:10:59.000 not bad we can get the other one this one's also messed up now so I'm going to 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:05.120 come around and give this its best shot if I'm reading text sharpness is 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:07.760 everything yep and that's way sharper 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:11.079 way way sharper on the black and white maybe a newspaper comic strip isn't the 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:15.120 best comparison cuz I was like what am I really losing in black and white here 00:11:12.839 --> 00:11:19.399 but that's cuz it was smartly designed to not always be printed in color but 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:25.120 that's most Comics here's where I think it actually is probably the best case scenario for it is this older Watchman 00:11:23.079 --> 00:11:28.160 comic and I think it does look really great it benefits from the incredible 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:34.560 coloring of the Watchman series and it does get that dot printed cheap dot 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:36.959 printed feeling really well it Nails 00:11:34.560 --> 00:11:41.839 this but when you're not looking at cheap dot printed stuff um falls apart 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:46.440 pretty fast it's just disappointing especially compared to like I don't know 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:50.800 any other display in its price bracket but let's game in a minute first I want 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:55.480 to talk about the folks who might be considering a display like this in spite 00:11:52.920 --> 00:11:59.560 of all the obvious downsides and those are people who are suffering from 00:11:56.920 --> 00:12:04.680 digital eye strain AKA computer vision syndrome now I won't dispute the 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:09.760 perceived improved comfort of using an eink display but it should be noted that 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:14.399 there is still a lack of scientific evidence to demonstrate that blue light 00:12:12.040 --> 00:12:19.639 or any light emitted from a display is bad for your eyes and while some of it 00:12:17.040 --> 00:12:25.480 might be down to poor translation desung makes a lot of broad medical claims that 00:12:22.920 --> 00:12:28.839 they probably haven't tested so if you're someone who suffers from digital 00:12:27.040 --> 00:12:33.800 ey strain rather than just taking what they're saying at face value try 00:12:30.680 --> 00:12:36.199 following the 202020 rule and make a 00:12:33.800 --> 00:12:39.720 point of remembering to Blink if you have trouble with that keep some saline 00:12:38.160 --> 00:12:43.760 eye drops at your desk in order to improve your hydration of course don't 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:47.560 take advice about your eyes from either monitor manufacturers or YouTubers and 00:12:45.959 --> 00:12:51.519 if you have a persistent problem make sure you talk to a professional all 00:12:49.040 --> 00:12:57.199 right enough boring medical stuff let's game Super Meat Boy challenge dasung 00:12:55.079 --> 00:13:02.959 black and white versus dasung color versus Alienware 2 40 HZ OLED and you 00:13:00.560 --> 00:13:07.880 may be wondering hey what's up with that that seems unfair it's the same price 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:13.240 well actually mine's $400 cheaper are those the speakers built 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:17.199 into this monitor yeah they are not very good and this is 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:20.440 Sammy if you guys lose this and you blame your Hardware that's uh that's 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:24.720 kind of embarrassing I've never played this one moment please I'd like to tweak 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:27.600 my monitor a little bit yeah Sammy you can also change your settings if you'd 00:13:25.880 --> 00:13:31.240 like oh look at that got to get that fine tuning okay so we're just going to 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:34.320 go we're going to go to the first level go so you have to get you have to save 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:40.839 the lady okay done nice and then just Mash a to get 00:13:38.880 --> 00:13:44.519 the next level uh you can wall jump by like slamming against things oh I can't 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:48.480 even see myself there a wall here are you on the 00:13:46.680 --> 00:13:54.399 slow are you on the what is oh my 00:13:50.839 --> 00:13:57.160 God how far are we expected to go here I 00:13:54.399 --> 00:14:01.399 think someone set a timer for a minute wait wait wait oh well that wasn't very 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:07.639 good I didn't I can't see anything it's all gray uh how do I change the refresh 00:14:03.880 --> 00:14:09.240 rate again M plus yeah I yeah I think so 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:14.079 okay you want fast plus plus dude I can't I can't see for oh hold on okay I 00:14:11.839 --> 00:14:18.600 turn my contrast down this is definitely better where am I where are you L is 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:23.839 don't worry about it okay I'm going this is going way more better now that I can 00:14:21.880 --> 00:14:27.680 actually see any of what I'm doing I need beat lonus be embarrassing right no 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:37.720 you're not dude you're not going to beat me no no no no No 3 2 1 all 00:14:33.560 --> 00:14:39.880 right I'm at 112 I'm at 1 N I don't know 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:46.279 what I'm at uh you almost were there 111 111 so I 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:49.920 was at 110 so clearly that's proof that color does improve your gaming 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:54.440 performance yeah not just that but once I was able to tune it The Limited 00:14:52.360 --> 00:15:00.480 ghosting compared to the first gen one is definitely better like this is very 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:03.839 usable compared to what poor Sammy was dealing with over there with that said 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:09.600 I'm not getting much of the benefit of the color of it at this point no wow now 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:13.440 that I look at that it looks so much better of course no one is buying this 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:17.839 thing for gaming and if you are the sort of person who has a use case that can 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:22.839 benefit from it you know who you are say for example if what you do is review 00:15:20.560 --> 00:15:28.639 documentation all day for a living something like this could be worth the 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:32.880 investment and investment it will be the 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:37.079 color paperlike is worth about 00:15:32.880 --> 00:15:40.440 $1650 which somehow is less than dung's 00:15:37.079 --> 00:15:42.040 equivalent non color Inc monitor but 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:48.319 with the trade-offs that are inherent to the technology I can see how they would 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:51.240 view these two displays as equal if not 00:15:48.319 --> 00:15:55.519 the same I guess the question now is you know color E Ink it's definitely a thing 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:59.600 so why hasn't Amazon released a color e-reader yet with the Kindle brand 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:04.120 recognition that they have they charge a fortune for a color version but if I had 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:08.800 to guess I'd say it probably comes down to the lack of brightness and the poor 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