i don't know what kind of products the intel shill in that other video might
have told you about but amd is also releasing a pair of flagship cpus today
the threadripper 3960x and 3970x with 24
and 32 zen 2 cores respectively with
this much horsepower and more
performance per clock than intel's current offerings the question today
isn't will amd win but rather how much
will amd embarrass their opponent in this heavyweight showdown
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threadripper 3000 is an intimidating lineup for team blue to compete against
right now utilizing seven nanometer die chiplets based on amd's much improved
zentu architecture with a central i o die that handles communication to the
t-rex 40 chipset we are looking at not only a more powerful cpu than the
previous best threadripper 2990wx but potentially a more scalable one too i
mean if the battle didn't already look uphill enough
check out the conspicuously chiplet sized gaps on the outer edges of the
processor and also the conspicuously missing 3990
sku but speculation on possible future
processors aside moving to zen 2 means more scalability today we get an upgrade
from pcie gen 3 to gen 4 and support for
higher memory speeds and this is a big deal the new core layout and faster
infinity fabric interconnect means that the new threadrippers no longer need to
choose between uniform and non-uniform memory access by default these cpus are
now a single pneuma node with little or no performance ramifications under most
circumstances that is absolutely great news for enthusiasts who like to be able
to quickly change gears from rendering a big project to running a game or two
there is a spot of bad news though while
technically amd's new socket t-rex 4 is
the same as the previous socket tr4 with
a couple of tweaks in spite of the physical similarity it is actually
completely incompatible as a result of
amd changing the functions of some of the pins in order to improve the trace
pathing and provide a more stable platform for both pcie gen 4 and
potential future cpus and i guess that sounds reasonable enough to us but the
thing is we didn't drop 300 plus dollars on a motherboard expecting several
generations of upgrade options so we can understand why some people are a little
miffed but come on guys bigger picture
here because this is a huge upgrade the t-rex 40 chipset on these new boards is
exactly as powerful as it sounds it includes 16 usable pcie gen 4 lanes
through its double wide 8 lane link to the cpu to put that in perspective that
is 4 times the link speed we had before
meaning that the total number of usable pci express lanes jumps from 60 to 72
and given that most current devices are still gen 3 even if you were to use all
of those chips that provided lanes you'll probably still never feel
restricted just like i don't feel restricted by my underwear
ltdstore.com finally because we're now on zen 2 that means we have control over
the infinity fabric clock as well as access to a wider range of supported
memory speeds like ryzen 3000 threadripper 3000 comes with ddr4 3200
memory support out of the box with some asterisks depending on the configuration
so depending on how much ram you have installed the sweet spot looks about the
same as it is on ryzen 3rd gen ddr4 3600
so that's what we used across all of our competitors today except where it wasn't
feasible we've included the top end consumer chips from both teams and we
threw in the newly released core i9 10 980 xc so without further ado wait
hold on a second that can't be right yo anthony did you know your cinebench r20
numbers are closing in on the uh 64 core epic yeah they're supposed to be
um right
well as it turns out ladies and gentlemen
faster threads and faster memory make a big old difference and as we move
through our testing we actually found nearly linear scaling from the 16 core
ryzen 9 3950x in tasks that can utilize
every core all the way up to the top end 3970x
not to mention that the 3970x was almost
even in single threaded applications too
so if there was any doubt left in your mind these results make it clear that
amd's adjustments to the platform as a whole have enabled them to make
threadripper a hitherto exotic and sometimes temperamental platform into
something much more polished and impressive
even tasks that traditionally don't scale that well with more threads due to
the pneuma barriers that existed before such as adobe premiere seem to be able
to take better advantage of the additional resources
that doesn't necessarily transfer over to gaming but thanks to that ipc
advantage and most games being able to fit onto a single ccd we're still seeing
performance far and above what the previous gen thread rippers were capable
of bringing us to a generally acceptable level of performance across the board
something the old threadrippers weren't always able to claim
as for thermals they were controlled pretty well all things considered our
sustained temperatures did hit 82 degrees during the gooseberry blender
render but guys come on this is with all cores
32 of them at 3.9 gigahertz or higher
and remember guys this is on air cooling on our single threaded cinebench run all
of our threadrippers stayed close to their rated max turbo speeds though in
the end never actually quite reaching them and as for power consumption the
much more aggressive core clocks are definitely reflected in these
measurements with the 3960 and 3970x drawing the same peak and sustained
power actually in spite of the core count difference between them
both of them it is notable here drew far more power than their predecessors which
actually end up seeming downright conservative by comparison so guys
you're definitely going to want a decent cooler to get the most out of your 3rd
gen threadripper and you're going to need something pretty exotic if you had
any hope of overclocking all in all i think it goes without
saying that amd's increased asking price for these 24 core and 32 core cpus over
last gen is supported by the performance gains we've seen here today
but i said it anyway because otherwise how would we make time to show you this
lovely graph that anthony spent so much time on as for whether or not you should buy one
though well answer me this first how much are you willing to pay for high
performance the threadripper 3960x isn't
quite as big a spend compared to the 3970x but both of them are much more
expensive than either the ryzen 939 50x or the core ion 10980xe and neither of
these threadrippers truly justifies a 100 price premium over those chips
performance but then here's question number two
how much is your time worth in our timed tests there are some
significant savings to be had here and
it might be that especially if you use your computer for work your time is in
fact worth a lot more to you than the buy once cry once that a higher end cpu
purchase entails of course these are halo products and i
imagine most of you who aren't working professionals who need these kinds of
threads won't be buying thousand dollar plus cpus so guys make sure that you're
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as well as the ones that are coming for gpus and systems across multiple budgets
conclusion then amd seems to be on top of the world right now but while that
must really sting for intel it may not be curtains for them just yet make sure
you check out our video on the core i9 10980xc down below once you're done here
so you get the full story because guys
there it is there is more to this chip than meets the eye
get it it's a transformer's reference because the 7980xe transformed into the
990dxc which transformed into the
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