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i don't know what kind of products the intel shill in that other video might

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have told you about but amd is also releasing a pair of flagship cpus today

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the threadripper 3960x and 3970x with 24

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and 32 zen 2 cores respectively with

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this much horsepower and more

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performance per clock than intel's current offerings the question today

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isn't will amd win but rather how much

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will amd embarrass their opponent in this heavyweight showdown

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threadripper 3000 is an intimidating lineup for team blue to compete against

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right now utilizing seven nanometer die chiplets based on amd's much improved

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zentu architecture with a central i o die that handles communication to the

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t-rex 40 chipset we are looking at not only a more powerful cpu than the

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previous best threadripper 2990wx but potentially a more scalable one too i

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mean if the battle didn't already look uphill enough

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check out the conspicuously chiplet sized gaps on the outer edges of the

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processor and also the conspicuously missing 3990

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sku but speculation on possible future

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processors aside moving to zen 2 means more scalability today we get an upgrade

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from pcie gen 3 to gen 4 and support for

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higher memory speeds and this is a big deal the new core layout and faster

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infinity fabric interconnect means that the new threadrippers no longer need to

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choose between uniform and non-uniform memory access by default these cpus are

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now a single pneuma node with little or no performance ramifications under most

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circumstances that is absolutely great news for enthusiasts who like to be able

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to quickly change gears from rendering a big project to running a game or two

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there is a spot of bad news though while

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technically amd's new socket t-rex 4 is

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the same as the previous socket tr4 with

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a couple of tweaks in spite of the physical similarity it is actually

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completely incompatible as a result of

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amd changing the functions of some of the pins in order to improve the trace

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pathing and provide a more stable platform for both pcie gen 4 and

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potential future cpus and i guess that sounds reasonable enough to us but the

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thing is we didn't drop 300 plus dollars on a motherboard expecting several

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generations of upgrade options so we can understand why some people are a little

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miffed but come on guys bigger picture

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here because this is a huge upgrade the t-rex 40 chipset on these new boards is

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exactly as powerful as it sounds it includes 16 usable pcie gen 4 lanes

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through its double wide 8 lane link to the cpu to put that in perspective that

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is 4 times the link speed we had before

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meaning that the total number of usable pci express lanes jumps from 60 to 72

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and given that most current devices are still gen 3 even if you were to use all

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of those chips that provided lanes you'll probably still never feel

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restricted just like i don't feel restricted by my underwear

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ltdstore.com finally because we're now on zen 2 that means we have control over

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the infinity fabric clock as well as access to a wider range of supported

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memory speeds like ryzen 3000 threadripper 3000 comes with ddr4 3200

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memory support out of the box with some asterisks depending on the configuration

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so depending on how much ram you have installed the sweet spot looks about the

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same as it is on ryzen 3rd gen ddr4 3600

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so that's what we used across all of our competitors today except where it wasn't

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feasible we've included the top end consumer chips from both teams and we

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threw in the newly released core i9 10 980 xc so without further ado wait

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hold on a second that can't be right yo anthony did you know your cinebench r20

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numbers are closing in on the uh 64 core epic yeah they're supposed to be

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um right

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well as it turns out ladies and gentlemen

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faster threads and faster memory make a big old difference and as we move

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through our testing we actually found nearly linear scaling from the 16 core

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ryzen 9 3950x in tasks that can utilize

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every core all the way up to the top end 3970x

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not to mention that the 3970x was almost

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even in single threaded applications too

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so if there was any doubt left in your mind these results make it clear that

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amd's adjustments to the platform as a whole have enabled them to make

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threadripper a hitherto exotic and sometimes temperamental platform into

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something much more polished and impressive

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even tasks that traditionally don't scale that well with more threads due to

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the pneuma barriers that existed before such as adobe premiere seem to be able

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to take better advantage of the additional resources

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that doesn't necessarily transfer over to gaming but thanks to that ipc

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advantage and most games being able to fit onto a single ccd we're still seeing

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performance far and above what the previous gen thread rippers were capable

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of bringing us to a generally acceptable level of performance across the board

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something the old threadrippers weren't always able to claim

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as for thermals they were controlled pretty well all things considered our

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sustained temperatures did hit 82 degrees during the gooseberry blender

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render but guys come on this is with all cores

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32 of them at 3.9 gigahertz or higher

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and remember guys this is on air cooling on our single threaded cinebench run all

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of our threadrippers stayed close to their rated max turbo speeds though in

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the end never actually quite reaching them and as for power consumption the

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much more aggressive core clocks are definitely reflected in these

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measurements with the 3960 and 3970x drawing the same peak and sustained

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power actually in spite of the core count difference between them

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both of them it is notable here drew far more power than their predecessors which

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actually end up seeming downright conservative by comparison so guys

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you're definitely going to want a decent cooler to get the most out of your 3rd

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gen threadripper and you're going to need something pretty exotic if you had

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any hope of overclocking all in all i think it goes without

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saying that amd's increased asking price for these 24 core and 32 core cpus over

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last gen is supported by the performance gains we've seen here today

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but i said it anyway because otherwise how would we make time to show you this

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lovely graph that anthony spent so much time on as for whether or not you should buy one

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though well answer me this first how much are you willing to pay for high

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performance the threadripper 3960x isn't

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quite as big a spend compared to the 3970x but both of them are much more

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expensive than either the ryzen 939 50x or the core ion 10980xe and neither of

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these threadrippers truly justifies a 100 price premium over those chips

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performance but then here's question number two

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how much is your time worth in our timed tests there are some

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significant savings to be had here and

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it might be that especially if you use your computer for work your time is in

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fact worth a lot more to you than the buy once cry once that a higher end cpu

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purchase entails of course these are halo products and i

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imagine most of you who aren't working professionals who need these kinds of

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threads won't be buying thousand dollar plus cpus so guys make sure that you're

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conclusion then amd seems to be on top of the world right now but while that

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must really sting for intel it may not be curtains for them just yet make sure

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you check out our video on the core i9 10980xc down below once you're done here

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so you get the full story because guys

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get it it's a transformer's reference because the 7980xe transformed into the

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990dxc which transformed into the

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