and we're live guys so uh we're a little
bit sort of disheveled or disorganized or whatever you're used to seeing this
is this your grape juice no okay don't bother doing anything with that light
because I think the lighting is fine it's okay no they can't see it so
we have a very special show tonight we got back from CES was it was it a week
ago already yeah yeah okay well I spent the
next two days throwing up and in bed and
um I everyone gets sick at CES it's a whole lot of like sort of breathing on
each other and like hand shaking and people from just absolutely everywhere
yeah people from absolutely everywhere exposed to stuff that your body's not
used to that your body hates you for
basically's so Slick's goingon to check the twitch chat and make sure nothing's
wrong we have a particularly ghetto camera setup tonight which is
awesome we had a pretty exciting Day filming ncx Tech tips today in case you
guys are wondering why we're always like super tired and none of our equipment is
set up it's because on Fridays we actually film NCI Tech tips all day so
all of our audio problems audio problem what we just tested it popping popping
so the audio popping which is my favorite thing ever um has to do with
something about X changed even though
the program did not update at all and did not change at all or something to do
with our cameras which did not change at all and are
exactly same popping that we've been seeing yep so basically we have no idea
now they're saying it's fixed no idea at all we don't know what causes it we
don't know what fixes it because when I sat down with
both fs700 xa10 I sat down and I tried
every freaking scenario I could come up with and every different cable I could
swap and both cameras and everything
that I could do I couldn't replicate the issue for the life of me this one time
and then this other time it happened and I tried to upload a video of a mionix
naos 8200 three times all three of which now
I'm getting a call from diesel of all people yes
sir no we know we know there's popping
I'm talking about it right now yeah I
have no idea what we can do about it to be perfectly
honest uh we we don't have
that Oh you mean the snowball snow okay
okay yeah maybe we'll try we'll try the snowball and we'll try just turning off
the uh the audio on the camera itself is it still
popping oh okay okay well if it seems fine then
okay I gotta go I'm sort of live okay sorry guys it's all Diesel's fault he
he's uh he's actually admitted that it's his fault right here on the phone with
me he's explaining that he uh he broke it so thank you thank you for uh for
explaining that thank you bye um so the
naos 8200 I've had people posting lus are you trolling us blah blah blah blah
blah you've uploaded this three yeah I've uploaded it three times you know what I've also fixed the AV sync three
times and it seems to be something that is you
know magically fine in my video editing program and then he says it's fine now
and if they're saying it's fine now then I guess it's fine now we might as well get going um so if it's something that's
magically fixed when I fix it and then I upload it and YouTube breaks it there's
not a whole lot of anything that I can do about that uh the issue I would be
afraid to even okay yeah he's not plugging in um honestly I don't even
know what's causing the issue because like I said I cannot reproduce the error
and all this equipment sort of is finding good as long as it wants to love
you and wants to work but a lot of the times it does
not um want to talk about what happened
with The Forum today I'll let slick handle that one
while I go adjust the camera to make it level so okay so I was off benchmarking
a 8800 GT versus a 66 TI just to on like
a fairly Legacy platform just to show
how much of a performance increase you would get from swapping out just a card
instead of like improving your entire build anyways Diesel and Linus are off
filming lonus goes to toss a flash drive to diesel but diesel has no idea it's
coming so diesel tries to freak out and grab it real quick but misses it deflex
off Diesel's hand flies into the open server it would be hilarious if uh Mr
Wizard's watching cuz I haven't explained this to him
yet um flies into the open server and hits the SSD that's just like sitting in
the bottom when it hits the SSD it unplugs
the SATA data cable and the whole server is just like freaks out I have no idea
that it unplugged so I'm sitting there talking to Mr Wizard Mr Wizard's like oh
Drive failures there's Drive failures what's going on what's going on I can't
control the server I can't shut it down I can't do anything so I start freaking
out I shut it down start messing with it going to BIOS all this kind of stuff is
not detecting the SSD I have no idea why I have no idea what happened lus leaves
because he has to go do some stuff um
and Diesel just gets to witness me absolutely freaking out as my server
down eventually I figured out that the SSD was unplugged and it was because of
the flash drive that lonus threw in there in my defense it was a pretty good
throw that's impressive to have it like
go from across the entire room and hit a cable on a drive and actually like
dislodge it is quite impressive and that and the cable on the drive was like
legit plugged like into it and then the drive itself is bolted to the bottom of
the case so I can't even like it's probably a one in a million shot oh yeah
like it's kind of miraculous like you could throw that USB and the thing too
though is that the way the drive was oriented was the drive was oriented this
way this is the back of the drive and then the USB um uh thumb drive came in
at this angle so to hit it from the back
and unplug it it must have like bounced off of something and then came back out
or something I don't even know I don't even know it's just absolutely
miraculous one in one in a freaking million for sure um is our is our
YouTube video up announcing the live stream yep should be up all right did
you put the link under the video and everything yeah wow with Slash new on it
so they'll get the new UI that UI new UI by the way guys if you're watching on
Twitch TV which is the only way you could be watching um type Slash new at
the end of your url bar and it'll give you the cool new twitch UI I like it a
lot you should check it out oh they want to know what happened to my parot zek's
on the trip I just saw that in the twitch chat um what happened was I um
got did I what why did I why did that
okay well I sat on them I sat on them on the plane and I was super disappointed
about to other results because shoot you know what I don't feel like going and
getting them right now but basically the ear cups are supposed to rotate 90 Dees
one way and then stop the other way so that when you put them around your
around your neck they don't just like flop all over the place and could be
sort of anywhere so that they stay kind of like look like headphones around your
neck and when you go to pick them up and put them on your ears they're not just sort of oriented funny um so I sat on
them and actually forced one of the ear cups 90 de the other direction so one of
them is correct and one of them goes all the way around
180° and um so I you know with all the
things that go wrong around here it's a miracle we release any videos at all I
was going to say today's live stream how lonus breaks
things hold on I something else I didn't
break the audio and I didn't break that na video although maybe I didn't fix it
properly whatever I just I took off the third attempt it's not there and I uh
and I'm leaving the one that was not as bad as the first one but there's nothing
I can do about the audio popping in that video we can't refilm an unboxing
unfortunately because an unboxing is an unboxing it inherently only has one
chance of being good yeah um so it's the nature of it's the nature of the Beast a
little bit and I'm sorry there's really just nothing we can do about that I do
have something exciting to announce in 15 minutes but I guess I can kind of I
can kind of wait for that in 15 minutes oh yeah I don't know if you even know
about this um I guess you can't tell me
right now no I can tell oh wait no I can't right because they're there we
could just we could just have some more audio issues and they they could just
not be no it's fine I'm okay with waiting 15
minutes okay well here how about this I'll put you on the spot what was your
highlight of CES my highlight of CES probably the
Swift Tech really well that was really cool to meet gabri
Sean okay that was pretty damn cool pretend
you're talking to them and not to me cuz I know exactly what happened but they don't like the whole
story okay that's the point of a talk show so we have no time because were
kind of insane and we pulled ridiculous our ridiculous hours there it starts
with Project Shield basically cuz we were there the previous day we'll tell
that part because okay okay I'll tell that part then okay so it's starts with
Project Shield I don't know if you guys noticed but our project Shield coverage
went up three four days after everyone else's um so the reason for that was
that we didn't know about Project Shield because we didn't well I mean we knew
about it but we didn't know about you know when they were doing press briefings or if they were doing press
briefings or any of the other stuff um
diesel wants to be a mod in chat just so you know okay uh so when and if they
were doing press briefings so so we got kind of we were on the list kind of L
so we showed up um sort of a couple days afterwards cuz we we weren't at the show
for the first day and we were like okay so uh can we get in can you squeeze Us
in and the guys that NVIDIA were like yeah yeah like we really want to get you
in um hang around for like 20 minutes and uh and we'll get you in so we were
like okay we only have 20 minutes cuz we have to be on a bus in 30 minutes and
it's 10 minutes away so that's like cutting it really close we're going to
be late for the bus so we waited 20 minutes and then as we were walking away
we had to go we had a bus that was taking us to an event that we had to be
there for if we didn't catch the bus we'd have to wait in the cab line which
is what 45 minutes yeah yeah easily
maybe an hour so like we weren't going to make it to the event if we didn't get
the shuttle um so we got the we got the
call from them five minutes after we'd left saying oh we're ready for you and I
was like crap we can't come we were not planning to go to the show The Following
day because we had meetings booked and like sweet tours booked all over the
Vegas Strip like nowhere near the convention center for that day so we're
like crap this was our chance to get to Project Shield we missed it so we get to
the bus and someone else is late by like 30 minutes so we're sitting there on the
bus looking at our watches we don't wear watches but figuratively looking at our
watches going holy crap whoever that
last person is like might get might get
just decked because so the worst part is
they keep making the bus driver move because he was taking up too much space
so we just get this like repeated like
oh we're so close to shield and then back away and then oh we could just go
in and film it and then back away and we didn't know like how long the bus was
going to wait we kept we kept asking they kept telling us oh soon soon soon
so we're like okay okay we'll wait we'll wait um so yeah that backfired so we had
to go back the next day which means we had to reschedule some stuff we missed
NZXT and I was really super the depressed about that and the way that I
had made it because because it takes a really long time to get to and from the
convention center because of the cab lineups I mean we could hire a limo to
do it I guess but you no big deal $100 you know each exactly um so I was like
okay I'll send slick to the Swift Tech
Suite to just kind of you know talk to them and uh and I'll take Diesel and
we'll go film Shield so slick didn't even get to see Shield which by the way
totally sucks cuz Shield's awesome yeah and oh did I mention it's freaking
awesome watch the video diesel got to just sit and play with it for like 10
minutes no I know you guys yeah I
know it's awesome I'm still happy I went Swift did I mention you can run Android
games and you can okay anyway project Shield's cool
and for those of you who don't think project Shield's cool you're wrong and
you're G to find out you're wrong in a year or 18 months or however long it
takes for everyone to kind of figure out how freaking awesome this is and start
buying them and start using them so there you go uh you can quote me on that
so so Project Shield blah blah blah so so I rescheduled Swift Tech I was like
we can't make it so I get this call from
slick okay well you have to go log in to Twitch I can't make him a mod all
right okay right there make sure you pause the video so they don't all get
hammered by Audio okay so bouncing back
a little bit this is before the call he got um I show up and walk in kind of
like knock on the door the door's open everybody's sitting there um gab ran CEO
of a company in Germany like like bunch
of big guys sitting around on the couches I walk in and they're like hi
I'm like oh hey I'm a part of the lius tech tips team just kind of here on
behalf of them just trying to see your demo and gab Bran's like oh lus isn't
here I'm like no um for context Gabe and
I go back about four four and a half years so it's kind of a it's kind of a
jerk move that I wasn't there but I it was that or Shield come on guys
basically I eventually convinced him to give me the demo and the demo was
awesome as you guys hopefully saw the videos um there's a little bit confusion
about like a hand that came in and stuff but no no no it was all fair play it was
very cool um and I saw the demo I saw
that you could take it apart like I had heard they were releasing one but I hadn't heard anything about it until I
got there so he showed me the Hands-On demo theual device and then the demo
with all the computer set up then I called lonus and was like you have to be
here because we have to film this because this is awesome so he somehow
scrambles all the way over there I'm still not entirely sure how and then
shows up instantly starts filming I leave because they have to film I go
wait in the taxi lineup and then when he's done filming he runs down gets in
the taxi lineup instead of me gets in a cab I Sprint back upstairs grab the
stuff with diesel and Diesel and I run
to the tte sports Booth while you meet
with Intel or something yeah and then eventually we meet back up like missing
that meeting was not an option no and oh
I actually I guess I never told you this so the way I got to the uh Convention
Center so quickly was instead of of sort
of going to one place and then waiting for something and going to another place
I just hijacked the uh the uh the the ride that we had from Cooler Master cool
master ride yeah so so I I he was I was like can you take us to the convention
center after dropping one of our guys off there and he's just
like um I guess
so and meanwhile like we're halfway to the convention center after dropping you
off and he's like getting calls for like other places he needs to be and I'm just
like I'm sitting in the back I'm just
like thank you
but that made all the difference cuz that probably saved us half an hour right there which was all the I was we
didn't have that much leway time like did not I was in the Swift Tech Suite
like physically there for probably like 25 minutes that was it so the uh the
first part um I got briefed on the cooler itself and then we filmed sort of
together and then I was just like okay we're running out of time Gabe uh why
don't you give the demo in real time uh and we'll just like we'll we'll do it
together on this part
oh my goodness gabri Sean is a really good guy he was really cool to
meet so no one asked but uh my highlight of the show is going to actually be
Project Shield um I didn't get to see it I know that it's kind of an obvious one
but there's a lot of things that I like about this General concept I mean I I
have like I I have a DS somewhere it doesn't work anymore but I used it when
I used my DS and this might sound crazy to some of you folks I actually used it
at home a fair bit Yeah like like yeah I
used it out and about but I actually used it at home as well because there's
sort of a different set of games and it's a different set of controls the
ergonomics of playing games on a handheld console versus playing games on
what time is it okay eight more minutes till the big announcement um versus
playing games on the stupid phone or I mean like there are other Solutions like
there's the uh steel series free which is a little controller but like small
it's small especially for you and where do you put the phone like here what you
just find like a friend and just be like yeah can you just we're on the bus right
I got my Bluetooth thing be like yeah can you just sit there like that and
hold that for me like it's it's it's not feasible there's something to be said
for having them pre-attached like that
and I've seen he's asking to mod him again did you not mod him I you you had
to log in oh I haven't logged in
yet oh right okay I haven't logged in yet uh I will soon I will soon diesel um
what was I saying right right right so there's
something to be said for having it attached now I've had some people say
that you should just be able to take your Tegra or phone and put it in there
whatever else but there's something to be said for a highly integrated
experience with purpose made Hardware that's why a PlayStation 3 is able to
run games better than a similar generation PC that's why they look
better on the PlayStation 3 purpose built Hardware will all work together
and they want you to have an experience that's consistent regardless of what
you're doing so I think there's something to be said for the form factor
the ergonomics are awesome the fit and finish of the units that people saw it's
like some of the problems that they're complaining about where they're not perfect by any stretch of the
imagination my understanding is NVIDIA didn't even intend to show Project
Shield handson they decided at the last minute oh well everyone's demanding this
so um okay then okay then with that bracket
I didn't really get that entirely they just like slapped a bracket on it just
so it would work at CES that's awesome the bracket is custom made so that the
cables like normally you wouldn't run it with a bunch of fraking cables running
out of it so so that the cables won't just like break off the connectors which
are fragile on the pre-release consoles
so epic did that that's very cool the thing that's even more exciting about
all of this I guess is just the idea of NVIDIA a company that really properly
caters to Gamers we're not talking about Sony or Microsoft where what they really
want you to do is rent movies through your stupid gaming console we're talking
a company that actually is games games
games games games getting into the console race that's what's happening
here I mean with through Tegra Zone they're encouraging uh Android game
developers to optimize for Tegra which is basically GeForce with Tegra 4 we're
going to get a ton more power with dedicated Hardware that goes along with
Tegra 4 and this console gaming experience we're going to get well a
physical console to go with it and I'm extremely excited about what the future
is going to be like I mean I think now's a good time to buy NVIDIA stock and you
know all the usual blah blah blah I have no NVIDIA stock and I'm not intending to
take a position I had NVIDIA stock at one point I made a few bucks and then I
don't have any stocks right now so there you go don't take stock advice from me
I'm not a hardcore investor but
um uh find something to talk about
talk about what we filmed today and I'll go log into twitch and we filmed today
yeah we filmed a bunch of stuff today didn't we like weekly we film oh talk
about the upgrade thing that's a cool topic okay okay so as I said earlier
when he threw a flash drive in and shut down my server
um the video that I was working on prepping is a legacy system ddr2 kind of
platform someon 5 uh yeah the x6800 Dual
Court x68 dual core S 775 machine uh
this
one this machine with an 8800 DT as you can see
right there I benched that running Dirt 3 uh
Far Cry 3 and crisis 2 um and then I
benched the exact same thing minus the graphics card but with a 660 Ti on it
and compared results it was pretty interesting um I kind of expected more
but then I guess that's because it hit pretty hard bottlenecks but still I kind
of expected a little bit more um in fact Far Cry 3 we saw about a 15 frame per
second increase in oh I'm going to forget all these numbers in dirt and
crisis it was a little bit lower because those are both a little bit more CPU
Bound in dirt I think it was about eight or nine FPS higher and then in crisis 2
I think was around 10 I think that's about where it was so that's kind of
interesting we're going to do a followup video with that about upgrading
everything else other than your graphics card are we doing everything other than your graphics card uh I think we're
going to do like CPU upgrade I mean I guess the uh you kind of need to upgrade
your platform then yeah pretty much I mean I guess the conversation here is
should you upgrade peace meal or should you not I mean what would you recommend at this point uh probably a bucket
upgrade um basically the idea is
upgrading just your graphics card or upgrading your whole system so as we saw
today like I said I expect a little bit bit more from just your graphics card so I'd probably just recommend upgrading
your entire system um that's pretty much just how it goes you kind of I see a lot
of people that are like oh I I make this much a month that I can spend and I want
to build a computer over the next eight months so I'm going to buy a part every
month and then just slowly piece together my computer that's not usually
the best way to go about it because by the time you get to your last bit of
Parts all your first stuff is kind of outdated and not that great anymore so
what is probably a better idea is just saving up for that x amount of months
and then buying it all kind of at once or buying it all within the same month
so you can hit multiple sales something like that AMD guys stealing from NVIDIA
oh my goodness um in our netlink weekly we covered a topic about AMD no it it
was yeah am employees of AMD taking
100,000 documents putting them on like flash drives and external hard drives is
apparently what they're saying um and then quitting joining NVIDIA and serving
all those documents to NVIDIA so that's 100,000 like confidential documents and
this isn't like patent stuff this isn't like release stuff this is confidential
AMD documents so not entirely sure
what's in them um but I'm assuming like
new technologies that AMD is working on etc etc so that's not cool like not cool
at all this isn't like where Google sues
someone because they use some they used round edges not cool this is like you
could totally screw over a company not cool um what are your thoughts on it um
I think that it is absolutely insane to
do that not only is it wrong but it's just like it opens them up to personal
liability in a huge huge way um one
interesting thing that I read was that NVIDIA was uh in the know about this as
it was happening apparently allegedly
allegedly yeah so we're not in ly sure about that yet but that could bode well
could not bod well for NVIDIA if that's true and like is it really worth doing
that that's one thing I find with the employees like you're stealing all this
stuff from an employer that employed you for a really long time and going to
another employer that new employer is probably not going to trust you that
much in general because you just stole so much stuff from your ex-employer so
why should they believe that you're not going to do that to them and if anyone
ever hears about it like they did you you're pretty much screwed because
that's all on you that's also on NVIDIA if NVIDIA knew about it we're not
entirely sure about that yet but I don't know totally not worth
it um The Forum if you guys have noticed over the last kind of day or two there's
been a couple kind of sketchy down times um last night was a beta upgrade to Beta
25 okay hold that thought
Oh yay a collaborative video with the
one one and only unbox therapy so it is
9:30 so hopefully Lou is uh Lou is
releasing his video over there and apparently my my wireless keyboard and
mouse isn't even working so I just want to show you guys I want to show you guys
I want to show you guys where the forward slash is on this stupid
keyboard it's right there you know what
calm down we're just going to search for it
it's like literally right there I think that I think that you're being a
Negative Nancy you shut down my server all right
so guys if you are not already familiar
with unbox therapy this is uh the
channel of my fellow Canadian Lou hiler
or whatever however you spell his last name Hilson tager Hilson teder whatever
he's a good guy nice guy does unboxings
here's his NVIDIA Project she video which actually has fewer views than mine
so good try Lou but uh no I'm I'm just I'm just trolling him
like I said good guy unbox therapy we got together and we wanted to bring you
guys a special Christmas collaborative
video it's a little bit past Christmas yeah life's been pretty busy for both of
us actually we were both at CES so he
was at CES I was at CES we didn't even manage to meet up at CES that's how busy
we've been even though we were supposed to be doing a collaborative video so
this right here is the prize pack we are
giving it away together so Lou has contributed to us obtaining these prizes
equally to me so uh it is very much a
joint effort I want you guys to make sure you're subscribed to both Linus
Tech tips and unbox therapy and need you to leave a comment under both the video
on the lonus tech tips Channel and the video on the unboxing therapy channel
for your chance to win a qck plus
limited edition MLG officially licensed
mous pad the packaging got a little bit busted but I assure you the actual mouse
pad that's in there is new a steel series Sensei uh what is this this is
like the Sensei Pro one it's the uh yeah
this is the MLG sponsored version a steel Ser so oh right so okay so what is
so good about a Sensei is a question that you might have if you don't know
anything about gaming peripherals cuz the Sensei is freaking awesome uh very
very accurate steel series software is excellent I definitely endorse this
mouse and what I like about the pro MLG version one here is that it has a soft
touch feel versus did you know that soft touch instead of billion times better
yeah I believe it's soft touch that's awesome uh soft touch on theid looks
like it that's perfect so it's uh it's more it's a little bit nicer to use than
the non MLG version which is the uh
which is just kind of like plastic and I don't I don't like it as much as I like
the previous generation Z steel Series 7h so I think you can probably imagine
which one between me and Lou came up with the idea of having a steel series
7h as an ultimate gaming peripheral prize
pack I love the 7h this is the analog
version not the USB version at least that's what I asked for should be yep
analog version um which is my favorite
game headset because it actually soundss good in things other than games you can
watch movies you can listen to music it is a very good headset the only issue
with it is be careful with the little connector down here you don't want to
like throw them off and have that connector come flying out it can be a
little bit fragile but as long as you've got a good audio Source you're going to
love that and finally a Corsair Vengeance k90 Blue Back lit full mechan
not quite full mechan sorry mechanical gaming keyboards so remember that top
row is not mechanical that's why I S made that mistake there um so Vengeance
k90 completes your ultimate gaming prize
pack so again subscribe to lonus Tech tips subscribe to unbox therapy comment
under the videos on both of our channels announcing the contest and we will
announce the winners we haven't discussed that so we
will announce the winners no time frame was given dbd yeah
to to be determined so love to hear your feedback on sort of giveaways and
collaborations like this this is actually my first time collaborating
with another channel on uh on a giveaway
and like with a video that I actually upload to the channel and stuff like
that so what do you think good idea bad
idea it's cool because whoever wins gets a full set of awesome gaming peripherals
okay that is the most neutral observation about anything that I've
ever heard ever I don't know we've never done a collab before I think it could be
cool I think the video is funny enough you know what we haven't taken any of
your tweets yet tonight so I'm going to go ahead and find the keyboard which is
hiding behind Slick's monstrous form and
uh let's go ahead and let's take some tweets switching to the Twitter and
switching to the connect and stopping
with the frl now that you have been
updating your rig time to ah yes okay you know what slick actually brought
this up to me today
I told them I was like you don't have your rig up yet but but dtl is finished
Orca yes Orca is good um and orca is
better than my machine but I have a baby
so bam you didn't have a baby before well I Was preparing to have a baby hey
I had to rental the nursery that took time right I did
things that's hilarious uh no Ricky you
do not need to do that all right thank you Derek thank you
for enjoying our CES coverage we worked extremely hard I I really hope that came
through to you guys
um yeah how many hours did we sleep per
night uh three to four Max yeah three to
four Max I think diesel probably slept less than anyone 3 to two that guy is a
party animal like just he is a machine I
have no idea how he did it because guys he was out there with us all day filming
carrying crap around and filming crap and well filming good things not
carrying crap around carrying around expensive cameras that are extremely
heavy um so there there was that and then we'd have like meetings and then
we'd have like parties we had to go to to mingle and schmoo and then we'd get
back and I think he'd sometimes sleep for like an hour an hour or two and then
he'd get back up and start editing and for an hour and then get back up and
start it all over amazing amazing the
guy the guy's a tank so uh that was that was really fun sort of any news about
NVIDIA's gtx700 series you know what guys I can't comment on unreleased
Hardware because I sign these things called ndas non-disclosure agreements so
I get the privilege of being able to see the hardware and use it before it's
released but that comes with the responsibility of not talking about it
until it's actually released so
um
yeah I just wanted to say you guys are great thank you um I think rockat has
something inbound on the uh the Rios MK
Pro thing okay cool wow nobody is
commenting on anything about the giveaway so why don't we go ahead and
see if any of these 71 interactions are about the giveaway uh they are not hi
from the UK hi back to the UK get diesel
on Skype we actually were thinking about adding diesel on Skype but we ended up
when we got back here I had to follow up on some emails like very very urgently
slick had to fix the Forum have you even talked about all the posts that were
gone and you had to fix no okay I'm not going to completely cover that yet I'm
not entirely sure if it's working okay then so slick had to work
on the Forum that thing that he
broke so we we actually were going to try and get diesel on the uh on the live
stream tonight but it didn't happen if nothing else guys he's in the twitch
chat so join the twitch chat he's there he's one of the moderators so diesel the
intern in the twitch chat diesel the intern in twitch you can tell because
he's a mod so that's the right one yeah uh would you suggest using a back plate
for a graphics card without a water block yeah it provides a little support it looks nice it adds a little bit of
cooling it does absolutely nothing for the actual frames per second you're
getting so as long as you understand what what you're getting and what you're
not getting go for it they look great that's usually my reason for it yeah
they look really good yeah uh they feature wow hey apparently they featured
our CES video of the Aries 2o and I didn't even know that I think they did
for Raider as well oh cuz I know Corsair has our 900 D video um that's awesome
you know what that was kind of funny is uh we we got there to the suite to see
the uh to see the Aries 2 and and the Raider and some of the other cool stuff
and uh at the end of filming the video about Aries 2 I was I was like oh well
can we take it out and uh JJ was like uh
you know no one else has asked I don't
well here uh yeah sure we got nothing
else right now and I guess you guys will have like exclusive you know glamour
shots of what the card actually looks like out of the case because that was
the first place they were showing Aries to at all and he was like yeah I guess
it just didn't occur to anyone else to ask cuz they had it in like this machine
right that was built and sort of it was running and it was streaming footage and
like yeah and I was just like well not to be totally unreasonable but we'd love
to use our Fancy Pants camera to take some awesome Glamour Shots I actually
tweeted um a picture of diesel working
on those Glam shots uh we were using the light from the window coming in uh from
Vegas and we were like you know getting some really I mean I hope you guys
appreciate it particularly on Aries 2 Project Shield um those were probably
the two where where diesel spent the most time like really sort of um what's
the word obsessing maybe that's not the right
word uh he's watching this
right over the the little details of the footage that we were getting of the
closeup so I hope you guys appreciated that uh does shield work with Mac who
cares uh what do you think about six 680 for the win plus I think that it's a 680
I think that it's overclocked I think the plus means it has a back plate and I
think that it has 4 gigs of RAM um I get asked this all the time what do you
think about this particular skew of graphics card I think it's a graphics
card I think that everything you need to know about it can be extrapolated from
the information in the manufacturer specifications the overclock tells you
how much faster it is than a regular one and then everything else particularly
EVGA I love EVGA because just by reading the name of the I know exactly what it
looks like I know if it has custom cooling I know if it has a back
PL it's just kind of awesome I think that it's a great card I think that
you'll be very happy with the frame rates you'll get and I think that 4 gigs
of RAM is mostly optimized for multiple monitors or highres monitors so don't
worry too much about it if you're running at 1080p just get a 2 gig
version how safe is it to overclock a 660 Ti with GPU tweak um safe yeah yeah
yeah if you start seeing artifacts just back it on back down and you know don't
go too crazy on the voltage I know that NVIDIA gpus you can't really you can't
really yeah yeah project green light I covered a long time ago but basically it
doesn't allow ASUS to allow you to set
the voltages so high that it's just going to Breck the
card so be confident shoot my friend was
talking to me when you mentioned the giveaway Chris go watch the video that I
actually just uploaded on the YouTube channel Channel how many times can we
comment for giveaway if you comment a bunch of times I can tell you right now
that you know you're not going to be disqualified necessarily but if you win
we might sort of go back and see how many times you commented and make sure that it was you know you weren't just
being a butthead about it so there you go um have you heard about the Joker
7870 no apparently performs near better
than the 7950 you know this is the case sometimes where you have lower end gpus
that are sort of have a custom PCB and they're overclocked Balls to the walls
to be competitive with a higher in GPU but something that I always want to
remind people is that that higher end GPU has overclocking head room too yeah
like with the 660ti power Edition before they greenlighted it yeah you could
pretty much tie 680 when they were both
overclocked yeah now a 670 can overclock
better than the 660 Ti
so yeah something to something to talk about uh lonus why didn't you talk about
meeting Paul from new EG you know what I met probably I think I gave out around
400 business cards which means I probably met around 400 people although
Paul was one of the highlights I actually ran into them at the
Kingston Kingston Gigabyte Intel party
and uh they were just kind of there and I was uh I walked up and I think I
probably made some comment about how I love and respect the work that they do
and how the quality of their content just really is a uh is a blessing on the
entire internet and does that sound like
something I would say to them no that doesn't sound like you at all no no I
think it was something along the lines of how far they are behind me and how they'll never catch up and how I respect
them not at all not horrible horrible thing yeah but it was really good though
it was a total pleasure to meet them I mean it's all in good fun I'm just teasing them I know they take shots at
me from time to time as well um awesome awesome guys I'd say the thing that
struck me most most about Paul was the fact that when you talk to him in person
and just kind of sat and shot the breeze with him about Hardware he sounds
exactly the same as he does when he does a video he's a very a genuine genuine
YouTube personality whereas some people are actually not Tech guys they are
actors who act about tech which is I
mean that's sounds stupid but it's not
the same thing at all as people who are actually genuinely excited about the
technology so I met Paul at the Razer booth in the most random possible way
ever did you see his video why don't you talk about that while I go check some more live stream topics okay okay we're
walking through the Razer Booth uh diesel Harrison and I if you saw
Harrison on the coverage um and I don't
remember what we were doing there like at all oh I think we were trying to find
the uh Steam Big Picture Booth which wasn't like a were on the map so we were
trying to ask the razor guys cuz we thought they might have known I think that's what we were doing anyway I'm
walking around holding the camera in the bag and everything and then all a sudden I just
hear slick and I'm like what so I kind
of look around and there's Paul and I was just like this is so Random so it
was really really cool meeting him he got to see who diesel was um he's a
really nice guy he he made a video about like his coverage of CES you should what
is his Paul's Hardware his YouTube channel is Paul's Hardware you should go
check it out really really good video show them show them uh one
second how I change to there we
go so this is more of his personal Channel not his new egg Channel and this
is the video that I was talking about I'm not going to play it right now
because I'm not sure about audio levels I guess it's muted but yeah he basically
just goes on and talks about um his
experience at CES some of the stuff that he covered
um and troubles he had the the AMD
bunker as he calls it which we didn't get to see which was really really cool
um which is basically this big kind of dark room but with portrait TVs all the
way around and then this scene kind of just real life going around around it so
you can see like a cow and it'll walk from one TV to the other TV but there's
like a wall in between it so it's properly timed when it comes out to the other one and the sound is all 360 degre
Sur it's pretty cool I'm not really sure what the application of it is but it's
pretty cool I think the application is
people who are allergic to the Sun so they just want to like experience the
outside world without actually having Windows in their homes they can just put
TVs where all the Windows should go that is actually kind of interesting the
smartest thing I've ever heard ever
no really think about this for a minute pretty interesting you have speakers in
your walls and TVs in your walls so it'll just always feel like you're outside yeah or if uh you know like okay
okay so so we're we're find actually this was a really cool thing we saw the
flexible uh OLED screens that was really cool that was cool cuz they're like
legit flexible like they just take the thing and they just kind of go like this
and then the stuff keeps while it was playing yeah while it was playing so if
they could make a like and oh the transparent uh transparent screens so if
they could make a transparent screen that can be either opaque or transparent
then you could have either a window or a
scene or something in between so you can
have like the outside with like bubbles
coming up from time to time which would actually be kind of
ridiculous that would be really cool I mean that might be coming 30 50 years
from now where it's like no glasses through 3D so the bubbles actually have
depth and it's just you look outside and Bubbles come up like across the
landscape it reacts to your mood so you get really angry and then all the
Windows are like yeah like like lightning comes down well that again
okay that brings us to the perceptual technology demo at Intel where they're
talking about how they want to build sort of webcams well they want computers
to be aware of you so they'll have infrared sensors and uh you know who
knows what they'll have in the future maybe temperature sensors plus cameras
they'll be able to read facial expressions and they want your computer to know if you're reading something on
Facebook and you like it then it can just like it for you and little random
things like if you pick a movie and you've watched that movie be like
similar movies before and you didn't look like you liked it like the computer
perceives that you did not like it it'll be like oh I don't recommend this movie
you didn't like this type before yeah so so that brings us to our you know our 3D
room sort of that that would actually be kind of the coolest thing ever we're
getting close to Hol de yeah we're getting close to like the pathetic fallacy actually being all around us so
that that'd be like the best thing ever I want a hollow deck you want a hollow
deck I think you're I think we're a little bit too too old to actually
survive to holidex and like the sing
Singularity and like you know defeating aging and all that kind of stuff which
is very disappointing we might be like one of the last generations of people
who have to actually die if if you watch Ted there's a scientist on there saying
that defeating aging is like coming up coming pretty soon yeah but it'll be
probably too expensive for either you or I right and then like a couple years
after we pass away it'll be like yeah
affordable or the worst thing ever would be cuz you're a little younger than me
like I died curse you slick for out living Me
by that critical two
years oh my goodness so yeah
I mean what else I mean we could almost talk about CEs all night tonight
probably what what else want to dip into Twitter comments again and jump back
into why don't we why don't we go have a look at some Twitter comments that's a good idea you have good ideas from time
to time like
always uh okay so we did talk about meeting Paul now which is awesome first
time watching live thank you See's coverage was awesome thank you uh ah
isus uh waiting for Intel's new blah blah
blah should I get the 377k you know what uh there was a Oh I don't think we ever
talked about this the Reddit yeah the Reddit AMA um I don't remember the link
but if you search for Intel engineer AMA
it was freaking awesome like he talked
about so much cool stuff I mean obviously he's you know Bound by
non-disclosure agreements as well so he can't give details but he did let slip a
couple of gems now you and I have talked about this already Haswell is coming the
Next Generation Intel uh platform and socket and CPU architecture on socket
1150 so haswell's coming and we kind of
looked at the specs and we were like oh boring same clock speeds there's going
to be like a K series with hyperthreading and a K series Without
hyperthreading and then some nonk that we don't care about like okay I'll just
stick with my and then after all the song and dance that Intel went through
about how the reason that Ivy Bridge didn't overclock well like I mean
generationally better than Sandy Bridge was because as the dies keep shrinking
we're reaching that point of we we we
can't Crank It Up anymore we can't just pump more volts through it Heat's going
to become a factor for us like quick fast so we were kind of looking at it
going okay well there's probably nothing special overclocking wise that was around the time those rumors were coming
out that Intel was going to do away with sockets entirely so we were like okay
they don't care about enthus anymore blah blah blah blah blah no read the AMA
because he drops a couple bomb hints
like will be like the best thing ever
basically going to be the bee's knees he said it'll be uh an overclocker dream an
overclocker dream he calls it which is
like I'm excited I want to get I don't want to get too excited because of the
overclocking ability of Ivy was just kind of depressing the thing that
disappoints me is that we're not going to get a 2011 refreshed like right
away like why do I have to wait for my truly high-end platform mind you I'm
gonna have Ivy brid e by then which will be like 10 cores or something so I'll
probably be all right uh but anyway really excited for Haswell don't
remember where we were going with that however do I think a 3770k is going to
be outdated anytime soon no no I really
don't think so I mean go go back we had to go back pretty far to find a test
platform that had a CPU that was slow enough that it sucked I mean even right
after that we got LGA 1366 Bloomfield 920s are like still
kicking my dad's running one yeah and like running it well he folds on it
constantly well he uses uh boink yeah he
uses boink can still run any game and while running boink he plays whatever he
want yeah so I mean that that that
architecture was so strong and we have we've seen small generational
improvements from them but think about it this way we haven't actually seen
that many cuz Bloomfield to lynfield was just a socket change it was the exact
same architecture and then from there we went to uh we only got lynfield on 1156
right I think so yeah and then from there we went to Sandy Bridge yeah from
there we went to Sandy Bridge so we got a generational bump there and then we
got Sandy Bridge e which was just that again but on a different socket and then
we got Ivy Bridge which corporate instructions per clock
actually didn't change that much from Sand Bridge so since Bloomfield we've
actually only probably increased clock for clock around 20 to 30% and clock
speeds really haven't gone up that much you can overclock a Bloomfield CPU to
3.6 3.8 easy so yeah think about that
guys um and I broke Li Twitter oh sorry
I promised I was done with the frl uh let's go ahead and
when is the Windows 8 giveaway going to happen uh you know what probably near
the end of the Stream So Windows 8 giveaway will come be patient uh will
there be an unboxing of those two water coolers yes they are in the mail
already what's your opinion on computers in the future my opinion on computers in
the future is that they will be futuristic or they are futuristic
because I have to ask honestly I don't know man let's have a look let's or not
let's have a look let's see what happens just saw your picture of the dog in the
car yeah that was actually very sad I don't know if I want to talk about that
right now um really it's just like is
nobody tweeting haven't seen I've seen one one comment about the contest and
it's just cuz the guy didn't hear it no here's one and the Cs cover was kill oh
no wait no it's not oh nice giveaway hope I win there we go how did you find
a kraken x40
video he's going to get it it's here I
will work on it soon we've been very busy we've had some very exciting stuff
going on um hopefully we'll be able to talk about it a little bit more for
those of you who don't know already if you're just tuning in we have a forum
now so lusch tips.com go there sign up
there's an error when you register don't worry your account has been created you
can start posting immediately it usually works now oh usually works usually works
oh it doesn't there's no error no oh okay we rolled out a new beta uh V
bulletin 5 by we I mean you not me and Mr Mr Wizard yeah it might it might
still mess up no guarantees but as far as I've seen I made I made a couple
trash accounts and then deleted them but it worked every time so I don't know if
someone else gets the air you might get the air I don't know but on my test case
so far it seem to be working but guys we're looking at uh we're looking at a
forum that is growing extremely quickly
we're we're pleased beyond our wildest streams at how at how well it's doing
how much people are enjoying it um it's just a great place for everyone to kind
of come and interact uh we're probably going to make some changes over time
adding things like I want you guys to watch I want to have our own sort of
live stream with maybe like an up and down voting system for people to ask
questions and then sort of vote up the questions that they think are most
important so we can interact more during live streams so I'd like to build a
module like that at some point um I'm trying to also post little written
articles to go along with the videos that I'm posting every night um and I'm
posting those in the lineus tech tips video section so you can get a little bit of sometimes I'll talk about sort of
more General opinion about the product and how it fits into the marketplace and
I'll also talk about things like uh you know funny things that happened behind
the scenes while we were filming it or uh or any anything like that that might
be that might be interesting so
um that's good last night well I guess
at 5:00 a.m. PST was when you guys would have seen it but all of last night uh Mr
Wizard and I were working on the Forum we did a whole bunch of stuff the
majority of it was making sure that beta 25 from V bulletin rolled out properly
but we also we we moved the operating system and software out of Hardware it
was just kind of there because it was kind of an oddball so we moved that
under a software heading and we added a programming Forum a lot of people asked
for a programming Forum that's weird we weren't going to have it at first because we're like a hardware show but a
lot of our fans come from a lot of different disciplines and a lot of people ask for programming for them so I
decided no did you decide that I decided that I wasn't informed that he had
decided that but okay I decided we have a programming Forum now U I've seen a
couple posts in there but I think it's mainly because people didn't know it was there so if you're into programming you
want to talk about programming jump on that programming Forum make it active so
lonus doesn't want to remove it no no it's not that I wanted to
remove it I just didn't expect anyone to be that interested in it um
then again programming is not really my thing so to put it
mildly uh Kraken x40 how did you find
out find how did you find about the Turtle Beach headsets it's probably
wondering what you thought about them in general oh I didn't really get to listen
to them much while we were there so um unfortunately I'll have to wait until we
actually get something that we can bring handson on the set and listen to for
more of an extended period of time and to to really evaluate um what about the
Esports chick that had a thing for I I watched that video and I don't know
where all of this came from She's bubbly I don't necessarily think she had a
thing for me she's bubbly yeah I mean
her thing is she she's there like repping thermal take Esports it's like
her job to be excited about like gaming
peripheral speaking of being excited about gaming peripherals Cherry MX
greens oh my goodness they're awesome they're so cool I'm kind of a
keyboard fanatic as some people may have figured out and I'm a huge fan of Blues I've never
been able to type on greens yet so when we got there and they're like oh yeah
blah blah blah talking about all their keyboards and then they get over to the other side and they're like oh yeah and
we decided we'd roll out a keyboard with greens I was like holy crap yes this is
awesome so I finally got to go up and type on it because I've only ever seen them in space bars they're basically
stiff blues and uh the sound of them is
kind of deeper it doesn't have so much of a sharp edge to it it's just kind of
it's more chunky and they weigh more so it's if you have big meat hands and you
just like smash your keys it's really really really nice I've seen a couple
people posting why would anyone ever like that they weigh so much it's
awesome that's exactly what I want I love greens I hope to get my hands on a
green keyboard pretty soon that was really cool I actually completely forgot
about that I know there was so much there's way too much stuff uh that was
Cooler Master not thermal T sorry I kind of changed gears there but uh yeah The
Cooler Master is going to be bringing that to Market soon I think the
allocation of them will be quite limited yeah so there's not going to be a ton
available but someone's finally doing it
it's it's it's not necessarily cool Master's fault yeah Green switches are
not that common because they're usually only used in space bars and then even
then they're not used that much and they're expensive that's why they don't
tend to get implemented was who was it who said they were going to bring a toer
keyboard I think that was also cooler M was that also cool I mean those guys are
going absolutely like their product line
is just exploded yeah it's ridiculous they like keyboard wise it's they're
going up against guys like ducky and filco and they are like serious about
having a broad portfolio of keyboards and they make like they're solid
keyboards y they feel nice they feel good I'm I have my ducky but there's a
really sad story to go along with that which I can explain in a second uh but
currently I'm using a quickfire quickfire with Blue switches okay the
ducky story as some of you might know um
can I go get it I'm going to go get the ducky I'm
sorry okay um um oh as some of you might
know um I have my ducky I'm a big fan of
my ducky I took it down to packs got it signed by a whole bunch of people I'll
show that when he comes down here I used to run my mineral oil computer one of
the weird things that you figure out with a mineral oil computer after running one for 5 years it's different
if you just build one run it for a couple months and get rid of it I ran it for 5 years there's a lot of stuff that
happens after the like year year and a half mark that is just bizarre one thing
that starts happening is as a mineral heats up now I had it pumped out to a
radiator so it was being cooled down all the time it's not a passive mineral oil
rig which I'm not a fan of it was a active cooled mineral oil rig as a
mineral oil heats up so if I'd play a really intense game that it would climb
out of my case now I had a plexiglass Shield but it would still climb out of my case and get up on my cables and
climb up my cables it was ridiculous so it would come down and like not a ton of
it but it would come down and it would get on the plastic of the cables and
Harden all of them now uh
um as it would Harden My cables and then as I moved my cables around they' if if
I was if I manhandled them a little bit they'd crack now this is you can detach
the USB cable on it so I'd take it around all the time because I really
really like my keyboard and stashed my USB cable in my bag so it started
cracking over time and then the keyboard
stopped working I thought this was because the cable so I swapped it with
the detachable cable on my quickfire w w
a wild keyboard appears it
fainted stop and it stopped working so
I've been kind of scared to fully diagnose it yet because I'm really
worried that it's dead because I really like this keyboard
but I'll have to figure it out in the next day or two I guess who are all
these signatures on the back look at that it's even signed by people I know who husky is Husky you know who hus is
yeah yeah only because you talk about it
him there's bomber non bling fir Zerg husky day n's mom day
n's mom Day N and in control it's all
Starcraft people yeah do you even play Starcraft I
do I don't have any time to play because you work me like a slave but I do play
Starcraft oh okay well that got awkward
real fast my brother is better at
Starcraft than me and a Caster you should check him out on Twitter it's
cold SCC um he's pretty great has good
Starcraft content well look at that you have an overclock.net spacebar too I do
my spacebar is overclock.net this is a day n key here you have to this is an
overclock.net space bar it's ninja printing so it's there and has ducky
logo on it um this is day n's nine key I
got that from PX uh these ones come with the keyboard all the white ones is like
that's kind of a funny story actually the white ones yeah it's a my brother
bought a full key set of blank whites
from WD for Christmas and gave me half and then used half on
his board so I like grabbed the remainders and like kind of made things
work this is my favorite part all white arrow keys because I never use them it
looks really cool and then this is a Team Liquid key that I put on my
Escape same this the sweater it
fainted stop it's okay I'm gonna fix it
I don't know how but I will fix it I
will make it live so that was that's a sad story I have no idea how we got
there but that's a sad story okay probably the uh probably the best story
of today has to be the uh so wait did
you did you say or actually you know what here let's talk about this so guys
as you know I've been an iOS user for
over two years now oh almost two and a half years so my trademark iPhone
comparisons for size may actually be going away you should just keep it as a
brick to use should I just keep it as like you should just keep it as a size comparison brick MP3 player and uh no
just a brick so I can't even use it to listen to music so I just have to not
use it you can just listen to music on your new phone what if this is
better nope it probably won't be okay so
my iOS days are numbered I'm actually kind of like like I received these in
the mail two days ago but I'm sort of like I'm not even sure if I want to open
them because they mean that I will have to move away from the familiarity of my
Apple Universe to something new so I
recently got in touch with HTC um I've never actually had any
access to like cool new phones or anything like that but they basically
said well here you're an iOS user that's
a very sad thing you have a lot of people who follow you on sort of that
thing on the internet with the videos YouTube so tell you what no strings
attached why don't you try another
platform so they sent over a couple cool phones uh one of them is the HTC 8X
which is a Windows 8 phone which I'm extremely excited about and the other
one is the uh is it the one it's the one
plus the one plus which is a 10 80P
Android phone I actually had a few people telling me I went with the wrong one and cuz they had given me the option
between the OnePlus and the uh the 720p
other more different really I just like the screen on the one yeah so I wanted
to try I wanted to see what a 1080p screen looks like on a phone so these
are the care packages that came along with them so I figure I'll do like a
live unboxing of whatever the heck is in here green
paper Okay more green paper more green paper no there's something in there it's
okay okay so here slick you can hold
that so inside this box we have an HTC
car stereo clip which quick and easy to
set up play music from your phone through your car stereo speakers
delivers authentic studio quality sound through apx enhancement Bluetooth
supporting to use this product please ensure your stereo is equipped with a 3 and2 mm auxiliary and connector so it's
3 and2 mm to Bluetooth Bluetooth your phone to it that is actually the best
thing ever because I use I you know what I wish I could take the camera out to my
car right now because you can vouch for this I legit have a three and a half mil
connector always sticking out of my deck
and then the other car in my wife's car the 3 and 1 half mil connector is in the
glove box so there's always a three and 1 half mil connector just randomly
sticking out through the glove box and then just like on the floor so this
might actually be a better solution to that okay so cool cool stuff from HTC
number one cool stuff from HTC number two is the media link everything on your
phone to your TV in high definition instantly Wireless I didn't even know they make accessories like this see this
is how this is how sheltered I am I thought Apple TV was the only solution
Apple TV you horrible well I don't have
saw the cube I don't have an Apple TV can't you do that with Cube I don't know
uh simple intuitive swipe your screen with three fingers to instantly set up
and share your content to your HD screen something something something something
uh so basically it's like wi ey supports up to 1080p video and audio DNA
compliant okay very cool what else is in
there so obviously I'll be showing you guys a bunch of cool HTC stuff over the
next little bit because this is all super exciting and whatnot okay on
thee-o charging okay so it's a 6,000 milliamp hour sort of on the-go power
brick I think we've all seen these before is it that slim two times full
charged uh no I don't think it's that slim but when we do it we'll do an
unboxing of it and then we'll uh we'll check it out or maybe we'll do like an
unboxing of like all the HTC accessories because apparently there are all of them
here uh Crystal Clear wirefree music and phone calls so this is a wireless uh
headphone and sort of microphone thing using Bluetooth apt x with HTC exclusive
audio profile for authentic sound okay I my expectations are not you know super
high for headphones that come from non
audio companies but I'll give them a try
cost nothing to try and then it costs nothing for you guys
to hear my thoughts about it so the risk is very low for you another on the- go
charger a black version of the wireless
headphones okay
and okay so there's card so this is the HTC 8X
running Windows Phone 8 uh this is the Yellow Version which is apparently not
actually available in my region so LTE is not going to work on this one okay um
but from talking to them they were saying that the actual real world
difference between LTE and like Fast good 3G is not that big when you're
actually running on the phone when you're tethering it might be noticeable okay but um yeah they were saying it's
not as big of a deal in that way so okay
it's a 16 gig version has a gig of RAM 720p screen Beats Audio built in well
that'll definitely be better than the iPhone actually I'm kind of curious to
know if that is necessarily better than the iPhone so beat's audio is HTC now
it's no longer uh monster oh that's right yeah I was wondering for a second
I was like how did they work that out but there you go this comes in a much
larger box that's the 10p screen one
yeah so I think it's got like a 5 in screen or something like something ridiculous ridiculous like that so
there's the Droid DNA thing on it wait a minute is this the uh is the Droid DNA
the one with the 1080p screen screen maybe the 1X was the one without the 10
see I'm not actually a phone guy so I'm actually hoping to do a series of videos
focused mostly on Windows Phone 8 where I go okay this is what it's like like
maybe like a weekly blog sort of you know that would be cool day
three I'm going through withdrawal my
air video app where is it where is it um
so so I'm I want to do sort of a what is the experience actually like going from
iOS to something else so we can enable others to take this to make the switch
with me um hearing aid compatibility
this one has like nothing about the phone whatsoever on the outside we're
going to have to give you like a face guard so you can't bite people when you go grab it so this one's a Verizon phone
so this is a US phone but apparently these are both fully unlocked so I can
use them on Bell which is uh my carrier although I'm not sure how long I'm going
to stick with them because they were kind of buttheads about my uh my last
experience with them but how long did that take you oh I was on the phone with
with them basically for an entire day yeah I was trying to en contact him that
day it which is completely useless you know the stupid thing is Rogers never
really did wrong I was with Rogers for like four years four four or five years
Rogers never did wrong by me they never did anything bad to me just Belle had an
offer and Rogers wouldn't match it and my then girlfriend now wife was on Bell
so uh there was a bell the Bell hat they had Bell the Bell that's right and I
think Rogers didn't have something equivalent and my contract was up and hers wasn't so I would consider going
back to Rogers i' never I'd never use
one of the other guys who I will not name but wouldn't even consider that so
this is the Verizon that looks really nice um how's the that's a nice soft
touch on the back wow that's gorgeous so there you go guys we'll be doing
unboxings of these over the next little bit I'm extremely excited to try them
out I've as you guys know I've never really been a phone guy so I guess I'll
have to like learn something new it's interesting I think it'll be fun okay to
start trying out the phones and stuff and like if once we get more into phones
I run a lot of kind of interesting fun apps on my phone it would be cool to do
like app stuff oh yeah they're all Android yeah you know it's funny because
my favorite app in the world is air video and I still haven't managed to do
a tech tips video about it I talk about it I love air video it's amazing but I
have never never done uh anything we should run a poll on the forums under
your Linus's ramblings thing and figure out how many people want phone stuff
yeah actually that's not a bad idea in fact um you know what I'd love to see your
Twitter comments right now about what you want us to talk about in terms of
phones because it's New Territory and
we're not really sure what you guys are expecting I mean do you want more like
uh bloggy style content like what it's like from a non-phone guys perspective
or do you want us to more like sort of do a bunch of preparation and then just
show you kind of neat stuff about them in the way that we normally do with
computers where it comes very easily for me me because almost everything I tell
you guys about computers is just because I was actually driven to figure it out
at some point because I actually had to and then now I just kind of know that um
whereas with phones I've always taken the approach that uh if I can find the
numbers and then hold it up here and sort of it makes a noise doesn't sort of
you know then it's fine whereas he's more of a phone dork not not me um so
yeah that's kind of neat uh what else do we
have do highlights of CES I mean we can
just talk about more more random CES
stuff uh should we bring up the coffee story yes absolutely the coffee story is
amazing I hope Diesel's still watching this was one of the best like okay we're
definitely in Las Vegas stories that we have um diesel this is like the first
night or the second night or something um Diesel and I are in the hotel room
and Diesel is starting to edit I'm trying to jump on my laptop and work on
the Forum and he's like man I need coffee tired need coffee so me and him
go to leave go downstairs and the coffee
shop that's in there serves like this tiny little cup of coffee for five bucks
so we're like okay we need to find a Starbucks so he can get a big freaking thing of coffee and just edit like a
machine and that was on like day one to give you guys some idea how bad it was
just from like traveling and like doing one day like we it was already brutal we
were down there for what like six days yeah yeah so we're basically going on a
hunt at this point we go out the front of the hotel and I ask one of the valet
I'm like hey where can we get some coffee so the guy calls his buddy
over and his buddy starts walking over Diesel and I look over at his buddy and
as his buddy walks up he goes like very
noticeably and I'm just thinking okay stuffy NOS look back at the valet that I
asked and he's like no no no no no I actually think they're talking about
coffee he thought we were wanting to buy
cocaine I was like wow we're definitely in
Vegas and it turned out that all the Coffee shots Clos probably because
everyone's buying cocaine but
anyways that was that was a ridiculous story that was funny
um what else from CES I don't know I'm gonna look through
some of the videos and just kind of like oh talk razor edge razor edge that was
the T oh super wide as aspect ratio monitors okay
oh those were ridiculous yeah I know I
don't know what to make of it so I don't know if you guys saw this but uh at CES
we saw a couple okay Diesel's calling what does he want
hey uh no he wasn't there uh do you want
us to tell that story
no no he went back with
me the the oh probably should I don't
know yeah I don't think we should tell that story that's not very
PG-13 okay bye uh there's going to be a lot of
questions about that never mind never
mind we'll do the um like no the Saddam Hussein like
nothing to see here just carry on uh super wide aspect ratio
monitors so uh we went from 4x3 which is
slightly wider than it is tall almost a square to 5x4 which is even more Square
to 16x 10 which is not very Square to 16
by 9 Which is less Square to 16 by 21
which is basically a strip of monitor like this um LG and ASUS had monitor
monitors on display that were 29 in IPS
so gorgeous monitors ideal for movie
viewing what do you gaming perhaps as
well what do you think I don't think so enough for gaming why one interesting
thing if you'll game and Surround with multiple monitors why not do it with
even with multiple monitors I play on one screen unless I'm playing like a racing
game or a flight s that's pretty much the only time okay but what if you were
playing an RTS from a company that doesn't have their heads up their
behinds about sort of comptitive is going to stay on one
screen that is so stupid you know what Supreme Commander was so far ahead of
like everyone else in so many ways seriously though physics based Conta
combat instead of stupid die rolling
which is how it should be you could actually program your guys to maneuver
in certain ways when meeting an enemy Force so that they'd be less likely to
be hit there was an advant you know how
and strict strict strict straightforward strategy that's why it's more
competitive talking about Starcraft whatever Starcraft can can eat it so
Supreme Commander at the time had support for you to move your mini map
onto a second monitor but it wasn't just a mini map you could actually go over to
that second Monitor and zoom in on it down to a very small level so you could
actually monitor two places at time why not
seriously for competitive games give everyone two monitors the monitor GL be
happy they get to sell more monitors I think the gamers will be happy they get
to monitor two bases from assumptions being able to monitor two bases
Competitive Edge yeah they want to have everyone on an equal playing field at
least as equal as possible aren on an equal playing field that's why hold on
oh why doesn't blizzard go and endow
everyone in the world with a fiber internet connection so that nobody has
any latency but this is why why doesn't blizzard endow everyone with a gaming
machine that can run it the same resolution blizzard makes sure that all
their games why doesn't blizzard endow
everyone with a gaming mouse that has optimal precision and the clicks are are
hair trigger clicks so that everyone has exactly some of the best gaming mouse
for Starcraft are the old school white Microsoft ones because they're very
definitive clicks they don't need any crazy ridiculous DPI ones Starcraft wow
all that kind of stuff that blizzard makes they make sure can run on a crazy
array of systems Starcraft is really easy to that's just another way of saying that their Graphics look like ass
and that they're holding back and that they're holding back PC gaming in
general by not actually pushing the hard but they're pushing the competitive scene which is pushing PC gaming it's
not console gam you don't play Starcraft on Console Starcraft 64 was dumb it was
funny and kind of fun was Starcraft 64 cuz I know there was Warcraft 2 for
PlayStation there was Starcraft 64 oh my goodness I want to get it I want to try
it I think it would be fun I tried Warcraft 2 on PlayStation it was the I
was at a game store I was at like a used game store and I was like like cuz I
played a lot of Warcraft 2 back then and I was like seriously isn't it just kind
of awkward though oh it's the worst thing ever oh yeah it's like the most
terrible experience you could possibly have playing an RTS it's like Halo Wars
it's like why did you do that that's so weird I've never played Halo Wars I just
like it's a friend had it so I went to his house and was just like okay I don't
understand just buy a computer come on like this is just so weird there's
certain games that just not be played on a console um stagger Dynamics speaking
of buying a computer that could replace your console I mean it's one of those
things where it's like do we need another Boutique system builder and the
answer to that question is usually yet n
no and any other yeah any other flavor of absolutely not that you can possibly
think of however they're coming at it from A New Perspective which I I have to
respect so number one is every system's liquid cooled which I mean okay it's
been done before okay number two is
they're only using the ballist hardware which has been done before number three
is they have a special case which has been done before but hasn't necessarily
been done this well before and in this way and in this way before and number
five is they're going after the living room so this I haven't seen nearly as
much before now silverstone's tried to do extremely highend home theater cases
they've had like 7in touchscreen displays on them and I kind of go guys
really touchcreen
home theater it's at the front it's supposed to be 15 fet away from the
viewer so I mean you know they meant well but and that was back when Windows
XP was a thing so touch screen on Windows
XP yeah it's like handy clap right um so
that wasn't that great but uh no that
was me I I was like who's trying to come I'm like wrestling all the
stuff that's like oh my goodness that's like uh that's like uh an NVIDIA like
sure youin but it's green yeah NVIDIA that's
what I said okay that's like NVIDIA green I was going to say Bing what was I
talking about I know what that is do you yeah I know what a baneling is I know
what star I played Starcraft I played three rounds of Starcraft
2o okay
hey I did play it you own it well that's
how I played it smart guy they have
trials yeah trials they
just you it like well no I needed to use it for benchmarking I can't have a trial
for that actually I think it would still
work still I'm not sure I don't know if
they're okay the benchmarking that we use is a custom game Bard you don't know
what it is cuz you've never ran that one blizzard is the king of trials that are
like the worst thing ever if you can run a custom game I have no idea if you can
on the trial because I owned it as well as well well it expires after 14 days
like you can't no there's like a starter Edition well that's is that a different
thing than a trial yeah because there's no like well trial is a very specific
it's like free to playay Starcraft I think you can even play multiplayer but you can only play as tan what yeah like
it's kind of weird okay well that's that's not the thing that I had I had I
had trials like uh NVIDIA was giving out Starcraft 2 trials graic cards yeah okay
but there like it it came out later so he calls me ignorant but it turns out
he's actually talking about completely different thing than what he was
actually talk say star if he said starter Edition I'd have said GE slick
what starter Edition please tell me more about it because I really do like
hearing your opinion on things that's
crap um what the heck were we talking about no idea stiger Dynamics yeah stier
Dynamics okay so they're going after the living room so it's a super high-end
chassis it has a beautiful display on the front it's big it's like this big
and and uh the the chassis is set up for just ball and liquid cooling it's like
this tall so it's like thick and awesome it has a window on the top it looks
absolutely beautiful we might have a unit coming in so we can do some awesome
like glamour footage of it and show you guys exactly what a system like this
looks like and I mean is it expensive
yes if you want like the best home theater solution possible and great for
gaming along with like a couch Master we unboxed that recently which is kind of
awesome um but like look at it from this perspective it wasn't that long ago that
any random desktop computer was like $5,000 and people didn't really blink an
eye is it that crazy to spend money on a computer that's awesome um I mean you
could go buy an HP you could build your own but you wouldn't actually be able to
build something quite like this and the way they do the cabling is absolutely
Immaculate like it's as good as anyone
but the very very top tier of elitist enthusiasts would build for themselves
like it's probably better than I would build to be perfectly honest just due to
like time and whatnot well time and just general patience and general skill I I
have no metal working background which is a huge detriment I think mainly time
considering your computer isn't running yet
yes okay I will what what did I say you
said before Star Citizen before Star Citizen hits Alpha my computer will be
done and I will say this although we can't talk about embargoed and nonis
products but I will have my computer up and running before there's a replacement
for the 690 so I will only be one
generation behind by the time my computer is
actually done so there still the entire time I known you
you haven't had a real fully working computer it was working it's on a bench
yes sitting on like carpet with ssds just like sprawling out on the floor yes
I don't think that counts it was working I don't think it counts it was working I
didn't have the 590 in it but I had like
a 480 or something okay whatever I don't want to talk to
you um what else was
cool oh yeah the the Silverstone dust we didn't even finish talking about the
monitor oh yeah the monitor oh yeah I wanted to take Twitter questions about
that or something yeah Twitter comments oh right then I started looking for the
keyboard then I couldn't find it CU you hit it on me again I'm pretty sure you're the one
that repeatedly puts it back I'm pretty sure that that's probably right uh okay
so let's do some let's do some Twitter stuff for a little bit here to close this out
guys uh back to the
top no I completely lost my voice in CES
that was kind of rough yeah it's hard to be a video guy when you have no voice
it's like not good business uh whoa holy crap 19 new interactions since I did
that uh oh we have to do our Windows Eight giveaway we'll do that soon
um I hope I win the giveaway good sorry for spamming but in my defense diesel
told us to mention about slicks dancing you danced not
much not much at all diesel was the king
dancer what is he talking about no when did you dance I don't think that's what
I'm curious about I don't think you'd probably be good at
dancing Diesel's kind of crazy I like Diesel's dance style he's just he's nuts
he's fun Diesel's very fun okay this is is interesting so the 7870 Joker
apparently has a Tahiti GPU so I don't know why they're calling it a 7870
that's just stupid they should just call it like a 7900 SE or something then
right so it's similar to the uh the core
Edition card yeah except that that was an actual thing 560 TI 448 was an actual
thing whereas when you call it 7870 and it's a 7950 then that's just yeah that's
stupid that's like that's like that's like Intel saying we have innovated we
have made the fastest core I3 but they
actually just yeah they just sand down the IHS on a core i7 and like like write
core I3 on it in crayon like that's not
in crayon that's not the best part that's not a fast 7870 that's just a
slow 7950 then um I'm super interested
in Windows 8 phone sounds good anything to say on Surface Pro Surface Pro I
actually I I love surface the first surface I love the form factor I love
the way that it's got a keyboard and a tablet and it's just it's super
lightweight and the keyboard is actually just a cover and like I love the whole
idea Surface Pro I think I have to wait
for gen two or maybe even gen two of
surface one once apps are better and once it's running Tegra 4 because Tegra
4 is going to be way faster than Tegra 3
um so surface is sort of Achilles heel is the speed of the CPU surface Pros
Achilles heel is the power efficiency of the CPU so so it's going to be Surface 2
versus Surface Pro 2 where we really find out which of those platforms is the
real deal because by then Intel will have launched their Haswell based low
power CPUs which will be just like Destructor in terms of performance and
should have power consumption that's right down there with the mobile stuff
Surface Pro is probably like okay it
only gets three to three and a half hours of battery no no no I'm saying surface like that line like the Service
Pro Line is probably the first tablet that I would legitimately like okay when
netbooks came out all the students were like oh yeah I can have this tiny little
thing that I can take to class and everyone's like wow this sucks and then
just kind of stop I have a netbook you saw where I keep it yeah just like in
like a corner um I can't even really describe it better than like this little
corner it's just like shoved in the corner there's like some power supplies
here and then there's like some other random crap here like watering stuff and
then it's like slotted in between them yeah just no cares were given um and
then tablets came out and people oh I could take this to class and use this
and they're like uh iPad is kind of an awesome experience but I wouldn't use it
for any serious work exactly it's an entertainment device strictly Pro is the
first line that I'm like okay I could
actually probably take this to class and actually use it you know what I would
make the same argument about surface yeah because you have office that's the
key but not for my classes I need full
applications okay and there's a lot of people that go to school that need
can see and like it's it's very cool that I can just install something on
myet that I have on my desktop why not just get something like a taiichi then
that's the double-sided uh Notebook tablet thing with the rotation or not
rotation it just cools down and becomes a tablet so it's got screens on both
sides of the top so much bigger okay that's true that's pretty much the main
and only but it has a proper keyboard whereas even touch cover and type cover
are both inferior keyboards compared to what You' get on Tai Chichi not to be
like too negative but I hate the touch cover it was usable for me it was usable
but it felt so awkward you press and there's no uh give it more time what is
it called tactile feedback tactile feedback there's no tactile feedback at
all so you like and it feels like there should be what if a what if a Gen 2
touch cover had haptic feedback or something like that I'd be okay with that cuz that's probably not a bad idea
any Microsoft employees watching haptic feedback on touch cover two it shouldn't
be that hard I don't think I don't know I'm not an engineer but
I don't think should be that hard
hey why are you so mean you're smart
um oh apparently we crashed the Stagger
Dynamics website yes uh where were we going with this
right so surface right so the second gen
that's where like that's where things are getting real um so it's going to be
Tegra 4 which will fix everything that was wrong with Tegra 3 versus say
Haswell mobile which will fix hopefully everything that's wrong with Ivy bridge
and we're going to find out once those two are much closer do we and the apps
will be more mature by then do we need the full Windows 8 experience or does
everyone need the full Windows 8 experience because some people do or is
RT good enough so I think it'll just depend mainly on who you are and I think
it'll be cool having the two different SKS right uh what happened to Slick's
phone you know what why don't you tell that story while I prepare the Windows 8
giveaway okay so we're all ridiculously obscenely tired and just finished
packing and we're all sitting there with all of our bags by the door and lonus is
like we should get our tickets ready on our phones so he emails out the tickets
to everybody Diesel and myself and
himself obviously um and we all go get
our tickets on our phone for some reason I couldn't connect to the hotel's Wi-Fi
I have no idea why I was able to it all the time so I'm sitting there frustratedly working with my phone my
shoes are untied at the same point in time so so I eventually get ticked off
and just tell them both to pick up the ticket on their phones as well for me so
that they can submit my ticket I put my phone down tie my shoes get up grab my
bags and leave um I realized partway
through the taxi ride that like oh no I
don't have my phone because I always keep it in my front right hand pocket so
I kind of noticed I was like something feels weird and then I kind of noticed that my phone's not there luckily if you
watch the Cs coverage you probably saw him a little bit Harrison my buddy is
still in that hotel room so when I got
back or no I borrowed Linus's phone and texted Harrison and was like hey can you
grab my phone so he's shipping that to me I still won't have it for a while
it's really weird not having a phone I lasted through pretty much almost all of
high school without a phone and liked it but now that I have one oh I don't know
flip phones I never really cared about smartphones is completely different
because I can do email and I can do everything else on my phone so it just feels very very awkward not having my
phone I hope I get it soon but that was kind of a crappy story
I never usually leave my phone places that was just massive sleep deprivation
and distractions um I also left my watch
there really yeah Harrison got that as well oh you got that as well okay oh
that's like superly disappointing that would have been ridiculously sad as well
cuz that's a very cool watch that's a uh
something something Tokyo Tokyo Flash
yeah Tokyo flash RPM that's a very cool watch We did an unboxing of that at one
point so slick is the one who ended up with with that watch all right Windows 8
giveaway time drum
roll okay so
um Timmy tech TV hold on I'm gonna I'm
going to bring up the channel that you guys are supposed to be following
because they are actually the ones that
are contributing these prizes these Windows 8s are not coming from me they
are coming from Timmy tech TV um and I
would like to give you guys a question that will rely on you guys actually
having been paying attention to Timmy tech TV besides just being like sort of
you know wham bam thank you ma'am that prize is fantastic thank you so much and
we're never going to look at anything you do ever again so Timmy actually gave
me a question to ask you guys that will
be what storage boot
Drive did Tim use
in the MX
build so I know at least some of you are
going to try to cheat and that's fine cheating is
encouraged but it will be the first one
to tweet us the correct answer and I want exactly the correct answer I want
the capacity I want any little symbols
that go along with it I want exactly
what SSD was used take the time type it
properly I'm going to guess but using my hand how would you how could you
possibly know this I I haven't seen it I'm just going to make a guess you're G
to guess
okay I don't even know what that
was no no nope you're wrong you
lose you lose and yes I do have I do
have phones behind me but unfortunately slick does not have his Sim so yeah
that's kind of useless you're bone inated I could use it as a uh email and
everything you could but I have a computer so I want the
exact model I'm not giving any hints any
hints exact model capacity and everything yeah
capacity I want the exact exact model name not the part number just I just
want the model name in in its completest form there's there's a couple of people
guessing the exact same thing I guessed yeah yeah there's a lot of people
guessing a lot of things that aren't quite right aren't quite right aren't
quite right I don't just want the brand guys I want the model name of the
SSD let's go down let's go down
oh oh yeah we should talk about um we
should talk about Google Fiber after that's not rolling out in Canada
is it no we should talk about how mad we are about that very mad very mad
especially BC R let out in BC we have crappy internet I know like really
crappy internet that bad I me it's pretty bad sha has some good
plans okay hold on
you have to check yeah I can't remember exactly what it is so uh no no it's okay
uh okay I'll say this Martin's really close but he's not there he's actually
missed the actual like brand or like
he's missed the uh the series name uh see a lot of people like I don't
know how many times have I said I don't want to see a capacity with a
manufacturer I want to know exactly which one see V series is not good
enough
and it wasn't a
v200 okay let's see if Peter was the first one there we go Kingston 128 gig
SSD now v+ hold on did anyone get it
before Peter why do people keep saying
840 are you guys just guessing that's what I
guessed Peter you are the winner all
right so Peter I'm gonna follow you on Twitter follow so that you can send me a
direct message claiming your prize
winner winner chicken dinner there is actually no chicken dinner included in
the prize although if you ask really nicely I might throw in one of those
Twinkies that we ate on the live stream about a month ago and then he died don't need it and
then lonus got his copy of Windows 8 send it a month or two before so you
don't have to pay for shipping yes saving two bucks
Yes actually actually Tim's the one who's sending it out okay so we're going
to close with how mad we are about Google Fiber so Google Fiber is
basically Google's way of telling the internet service providers yo you see
that butt that you're sitting on it's so fat it's time to not sit on that fat
button anymore and actually improve the infrastructure that's going on and uh
like like seriously you look at what
they used to have to invest for infrastructure versus what they're
willing to do now copper wasn't cheap
like 20 years ago running the wire wasn't cheap and I understand that they
want that investment to pay for itself blah blah blah blah however fiber isn't
ridiculously unreasonable to run and the infrastructure that's going into it
isn't ridiculously unreasonable it's just a matter of well we don't have
to so Google's making them have to Google is making them have to so they've
rolled it out what what is it in like Kentucky or something stupid like that
Kentucky I'm pretty sure and one other place I think it's just it's a very
limited roll out where Google is rolling out gigabit internet to freaking awesome
gigabit like up down G babit internet to
uh to selected communities so that basically like like think about this
guys you'd be able to take a full uncompressed DVD rip and transfer that
at s s about 100 megabytes per second so about 4 seconds per or rather
um 10 seconds per whatever so it'll be so in about 45 seconds you could
transfer an entire DVD from your house
to like your buddy's house over the inter webs just like freaking drag and
drop that would be just like the best thing ever we could host as many forums
as we wanted uh with fiber however they're not rolling it out in Canada and
I kind of understand why because compared to American isps Canada I
actually and you can complain all you want about them I can actually no I get
it I somewhat understand what they're talking about because you look at even
things like highspeed is not rolled out across all of BC yet because there just
so much land to cover like I get it it just sucks I want faster internet like
when they're when it's going to cost them like you know a couple hundred thousand to do a cable run to like your
stupid 100 Mile House where there's like
40 people like do the math if each of those people is paying
$39.99 for their light speed plan because there are a bunch of people who
don't necessarily care because they're busy hunting or chopping firewood or
whatever else people do out there I love my country Brethren actually I grew up
in like totally the sticks so I'm not just I'm not just ripping on you guys
but quite frankly there's other things to do other than the internet especially
like the culture there is different so they're all on their 39.99 high speed
plans light speed plans how long does it take that to pay
for it son so yes there has to be a
subsidy that comes from the denser areas especially somewhere like Canada where
it's this enormous land mass I mean think about this guys Canada has fewer
people than the state of of California
alone I'm going let that sink in for a minute in terms of population
density yeah have it has it sunk in now because
Canada has the second largest land mass on Earth after Russia and like nobody
lives there so uh so yeah I kind of
understand but in the states I am so glad to see this happening because what
I expect is especially along the uh
along the bottom regions of Canada especially down over near the Great
Lakes um I would expect the infrastructure that's getting built to
kind of creep its way over the Border slowly to cities like Vancouver and
Toronto where people like yours truly will get to take advantage of them
because the internet has not been speeding up fast enough compared to
everything else that's going on and if we're going to have a chance of being on
The Cutting Edge of some of the technologies that are coming whether you
like them or not things like uh IP gaming it's coming they will be able to
roll that no but think about it imagine if you were on a fiber gigabit
connection I just want my own rig who cares at that point though I just want
my own rig why cuz I like what if the latencies were like 3 milliseconds I
have what is it okay altogether I have like aund and something gigs of cloud
storage available and I used like 24 megabytes well that's cuz it's so
inaccessible what if you could access it at full gigabit it's still pretty
accessible for documents and stuff and I just don't that's irresponsible though I
like it I like having local stories do you have a raid backup of it I have a
backup are you using my
server so
fired now you know and knowing is half the battle um
so like any anyways uh okay IP gaming is
coming whether guys like this believe in it or not 30 years from now a gaming PC
will be a relic I know it's coming it's coming so we need the latencies or well
we need to not have the latencies we need to have two 3 millisecond latencies
in order for a technology like that to even make any sense to have the image
rendered in the cloud and then beam to us and have our inputs going to that
that cloud-based uh rendering solution
so um fiber is the only solution so in
order for like cuz countries like Japan are going to be able to roll out fiber
to all like that because they have this population density you run like a
kilometer of fiber and you reach like a bajillion people in their highrises that
can now all be tapped into these these wide wide
backbones we can't do it here and that's fine but it means that North America is
going to fall behind on the technology curve so Google's doing their part to
kind of step up and make that out of reality put some pressure on those guys
I love it I'm happy to see it and i' I'd hope that within the next 3 to 5 years
I'll be able to get a beast connection here I mean already now over copper I
can get 250 down I just wish the isps would stop being so stingy about upload
and that's another place where Google's really pushing the envelope with this technology where they're saying no a
gigabit pipe is a gigabit pipe gigabit up gigabit down what do you think this
is cuz yeah like come on upload has
always been terrible I remember before we upgraded at our house we had 50
kilobytes kilobytes 512k effective yeah
oh yeah 50 kiloby oh yeah 50 Kobes effective like what and that was a
highspeed plan yeah if anyone did anything you just you're NOP done my mom
would be like Oh I'm going to upload a YouTube video of my dog it's just like
no one can use the internet for a day yeah like so so that needs to just go
away and die in a fire and it's very exciting
and I think that's probably pretty much going to do it for our live stream tonight if you guys missed the beginning
of the live stream then please do go ahead and watch the archive on YouTube
if you missed the end of the live stream then you aren't watching right now so
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