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Bell: Alright guys, what is this Moflin y'all have been messaging me about? 2 00:00:03.990 --> 00:00:06.220 Bell: I seriously got three or four messages. What is this? 3 00:00:06.220 --> 00:00:07.290 Nicole: There's so much wrong with it. 4 00:00:07.290 --> 00:00:07.760 Bell: Okay, what is it? 5 00:00:07.760 --> 00:00:12.330 Bjorn: It's this little furry AI pet companion. 6 00:00:12.330 --> 00:00:15.300 Bell: Whoa, $430? 7 00:00:15.430 --> 00:00:17.870 Bjorn: Yeah, well free shipping on orders over $99. 8 00:00:17.870 --> 00:00:18.640 Bell: Okay, well that's not bad. 9 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:20.800 Bell: Okay, so why do you like- Okay, Tyson is even coming over. 10 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:21.670 Tyson: I heard Moflin. 11 00:00:21.740 --> 00:00:23.710 Bell: What is so exciting about this Moflin? 12 00:00:24.510 --> 00:00:27.980 Bjorn: It's, just look at it; just look at how cute that thing is. 13 00:00:28.780 --> 00:00:29.710 Bell: It is a little loaf. 14 00:00:31.110 --> 00:00:34.480 Bjorn: Just imagine having that on your desk right here; you know, you're working, 15 00:00:34.480 --> 00:00:36.920 you're grinding away, and then you just have this little, your little friend. 16 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:37.990 Bell: Does it talk or anything? 17 00:00:37.990 --> 00:00:38.890 Bjorn: It makes noise, yeah. 18 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:40.320 Bjorn: Constantly. 19 00:00:41.260 --> 00:00:43.430 Bell: Constantly makes noise. 20 00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:45.300 Bell: Okay, Tyson, why do you like it so much? 21 00:00:45.400 --> 00:00:51.270 Tyson: I think that it's a cool way that people can have a pet before having a pet. 22 00:00:51.440 --> 00:00:52.600 Bell: Wow, is that you? 23 00:00:52.740 --> 00:00:54.040 Tyson: No, no, no, I have a cat. 24 00:00:54.040 --> 00:00:55.610 Bell: Okay, so why do you want it then? 25 00:00:55.740 --> 00:00:58.410 Tyson: I don't want it, I want other people to have it. 26 00:00:59.140 --> 00:00:59.710 Nicole: That's funny. 27 00:00:59.710 --> 00:01:00.880 Bell: That's how I feel about dogs you know? 28 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:02.310 Bell: I don't want a dog, I want other people to have dogs. 29 00:01:02.310 --> 00:01:02.680 Tyson: Yeah. 30 00:01:02.750 --> 00:01:03.950 Bell: But okay, how do you feel about it? 31 00:01:03.950 --> 00:01:04.650 Nicole: I hate this. 32 00:01:04.710 --> 00:01:08.850 Nicole: There's so much wrong with this thing from like an ethical standpoint. 33 00:01:08.850 --> 00:01:10.590 Bell: Whoa, ethical, why? 34 00:01:10.690 --> 00:01:12.990 Nicole: Because it's AI, 35 00:01:13.160 --> 00:01:13.720 Bell: Yeah? 36 00:01:13.820 --> 00:01:18.430 Nicole: but it lowers the barrier of entry to get like a life form 37 00:01:18.430 --> 00:01:20.660 that you can basically throw away when you're done with it. 38 00:01:20.660 --> 00:01:21.200 Bell: Mmmmm. 39 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:25.770 Nicole: It's like, it's the whole thing with the Easter bunnies, and it's like 40 00:01:25.770 --> 00:01:30.810 oh it's okay to get a bunny for Easter, and then just like discard it afterwards. 41 00:01:30.810 --> 00:01:34.810 But you're making this so much easier to discard, and there are zero consequences, 42 00:01:34.810 --> 00:01:37.580 because when it's a bunny, it's a life form. 43 00:01:37.950 --> 00:01:41.750 But with this, it's like oh it'll just turn off because it runs out of battery. 44 00:01:41.750 --> 00:01:45.260 Bell: Did they pay the hamsters to train on its data, 45 00:01:45.390 --> 00:01:49.090 or is it just like inethically sourced training data for these Moflins? 46 00:01:49.090 --> 00:01:52.260 Nicole: Apparently, there's like 40, 000 personalities. 47 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:52.960 Bell: What? 48 00:01:53.100 --> 00:01:53.860 Nicole: That can be- 49 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:55.470 Bell: For the thing that doesn't speak? 50 00:01:55.570 --> 00:02:01.540 Bjorn: And it takes, it has a range of emotions and it takes 50 days to fully mature. 51 00:02:01.540 --> 00:02:02.970 Bell: Oh, it's got the Muff Life app. 52 00:02:03.270 --> 00:02:04.940 Bjorn: Yeah, you get the Muff Life app. 53 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.140 Peter: There's a $55 subscription. 54 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:08.480 Bell: There's a subscription!? 55 00:02:08.480 --> 00:02:10.010 Peter: A yearly subscription for 55 dollars. 56 00:02:10.050 --> 00:02:10.880 Bell: Oh my goodness. 57 00:02:10.880 --> 00:02:14.580 Bell: Well, that's worth it for the life of your little being. 58 00:02:14.720 --> 00:02:16.890 Peter: Well, you get to bounce him up to the cloud, and then- 59 00:02:16.920 --> 00:02:21.160 Peter: So if he dies, you can transfer his consciousness into another Moflin. 60 00:02:21.160 --> 00:02:21.790 Bell: No way. 61 00:02:21.790 --> 00:02:22.190 Peter: Yes. 62 00:02:22.190 --> 00:02:23.060 Bell: Oh my goodness. 63 00:02:23.060 --> 00:02:28.100 Nicole: No; that's what's wrong with it though, because that's not how life works; 64 00:02:28.100 --> 00:02:31.330 when it's gone, it's gone, and that's how it should be. 65 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:32.970 Peter: Not with the power of AI. 66 00:02:32.970 --> 00:02:36.040 Bjorn: It's a safe and non-judgmental companion. 67 00:02:36.570 --> 00:02:39.310 Bell: And it's perfectly portable and lovable. 68 00:02:39.410 --> 00:02:46.650 Nicole: Oh okay, if this is a tool for little children who do not know yet 69 00:02:46.650 --> 00:02:51.820 how to deal with life, or to care for a pet and to like be gentle with it, sure, 70 00:02:51.820 --> 00:02:54.820 you can like, teach them how to care for a pet; 71 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:59.900 or if somebody is too old to care for a pet and they want companionship, sure. 72 00:02:59.900 --> 00:03:05.270 But this is such a cop-out of actually dedicating time and effort 73 00:03:05.270 --> 00:03:09.040 towards taking care of a life that it's just, it's... 74 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.740 Nicole: there are zero consequences to f***ing this thing up. 75 00:03:12.780 --> 00:03:13.410 Bell: Do you have pets? 76 00:03:13.540 --> 00:03:14.580 Nicole: I have a cat. 77 00:03:14.910 --> 00:03:16.180 Bell: Is it messed up? Or is it- 78 00:03:16.180 --> 00:03:18.180 Nicole: No, he's just scared of existence. 79 00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:22.150 Bell: So if Moflin had the ability to be scared of existence. 80 00:03:22.150 --> 00:03:22.750 Tyson: It does, yeah. 81 00:03:22.850 --> 00:03:23.450 Bjorn: It does, look. 82 00:03:23.450 --> 00:03:23.920 Bell: Anxious. 83 00:03:24.190 --> 00:03:24.690 Bjorn: Yeah. 84 00:03:24.690 --> 00:03:25.520 Bell: It can feel anxious. 85 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:26.390 Tyson: It can be grumpy. 86 00:03:26.390 --> 00:03:29.860 Bjorn: So if patting, hugging, or speaking brings positive emotions, 87 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.600 neglect or startling them brings some negative emotions. 88 00:03:32.600 --> 00:03:33.960 Bell: So... 89 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:35.270 Tyson: Oh, and make sure you don't put it upside down. 90 00:03:35.270 --> 00:03:38.970 Nicole: But you can just restart it, which is the f***ed up thing. 91 00:03:38.970 --> 00:03:41.970 Nicole: You cannot just hit restart on a life path. 92 00:03:42.010 --> 00:03:42.510 Bell: Yeah. 93 00:03:42.470 --> 00:03:43.870 Nicole: That's not how it works. 94 00:03:44.140 --> 00:03:44.610 Bell: Yeah. 95 00:03:44.740 --> 00:03:46.480 Bell: Sometimes if you shake them they kind of restart, 96 00:03:46.480 --> 00:03:47.840 but like, you're not supposed to do that with pets. 97 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:57.290 Nicole: It's not... it's such a, this is such a cop-out to genuine connection and genuine fear. 98 00:03:57.290 --> 00:04:00.160 Bell: Whoa, it takes 25 days to start attachment. 99 00:04:00.790 --> 00:04:01.520 Tyson: Like most things. 100 00:04:01.830 --> 00:04:02.930 Bell: 25 days!? 101 00:04:04.130 --> 00:04:05.600 Bell: And I have to pay $55 a month? 102 00:04:05.730 --> 00:04:09.130 Bell: Wow, with how long I have to pay for it; that's crazy. 103 00:04:09.130 --> 00:04:14.500 Nicole: It's just, okay, it's- This, this contradicts so much in me; 104 00:04:14.500 --> 00:04:17.410 because like part of me is like, oh it's so f***ing cute, 105 00:04:17.410 --> 00:04:20.240 and I really want one because it's so f***ing cute. 106 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:24.050 But this is just so wrong on so many levels that it's like, 107 00:04:24.080 --> 00:04:29.750 no, you shouldn't be getting a pet because it's AI, because it's easier, 108 00:04:29.750 --> 00:04:31.990 because there are no consequences to it. 109 00:04:32.020 --> 00:04:33.320 Nicole: That's so wrong. 110 00:04:33.320 --> 00:04:35.860 Bell: So what if you had to feed it, and you had to like, 111 00:04:35.890 --> 00:04:38.460 cherish it and take care of it? Would that be better? 112 00:04:38.500 --> 00:04:42.070 Nicole: No, because at the end of the day there's a restart button. 113 00:04:42.570 --> 00:04:43.970 Tyson: It's a Gen Z Tamagotchi. 114 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:45.200 Bell: So what if there wasn't a restart button? 115 00:04:45.200 --> 00:04:47.270 Like, my friend LeBron, I'm wearing the friend pin. 116 00:04:47.540 --> 00:04:49.140 Let's go, let's go. 117 00:04:49.570 --> 00:04:51.410 Sude, what? How did you do that? 118 00:04:51.410 --> 00:04:54.780 Bell: You can't change his name, and if he dies it's gone forever. 119 00:04:54.780 --> 00:04:57.480 Bell: Like, it's linked to this one thing, this is LeBron. 120 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:02.290 Nicole: See? The consequences of this are higher than the consequences of that. 121 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:06.690 Bell: That's true, and this is $130, LeBron; this is a $400. 122 00:05:06.690 --> 00:05:07.190 Tyson: U.S. 123 00:05:07.190 --> 00:05:08.590 Bell: How long does the charge last on this guy? 124 00:05:08.630 --> 00:05:09.490 Peter: Five hours. 125 00:05:10.330 --> 00:05:10.790 Bell: No way. 126 00:05:10.890 --> 00:05:12.230 Peter: It's a five hour charge. 127 00:05:12.260 --> 00:05:12.960 Bell: So he has to nap. 128 00:05:13.030 --> 00:05:15.670 Peter: And then it takes three and a half hours to recharge. 129 00:05:15.670 --> 00:05:16.230 Bell: No way. 130 00:05:16.230 --> 00:05:16.670 Peter: Yeah. 131 00:05:16.670 --> 00:05:18.400 Bell: Is it wireless charging? Like, you lay him in the sun like, 132 00:05:18.400 --> 00:05:19.500 at least he's like, relaxing? 133 00:05:19.500 --> 00:05:20.300 Tyson: It comes with a bed. 134 00:05:20.400 --> 00:05:20.840 Bjorn: Yeah. 135 00:05:20.840 --> 00:05:22.170 Bell: Oh, okay; that's kind of cute. 136 00:05:22.640 --> 00:05:23.140 Bjorn: Oh. 137 00:05:23.970 --> 00:05:26.710 Bell: It's proprietary, do not forget. 138 00:05:26.810 --> 00:05:29.350 Bell: Oh, and a little like ramen bowl; that's so cute. 139 00:05:30.350 --> 00:05:33.050 Oh, I'm actually kind of getting sold on this. 140 00:05:33.420 --> 00:05:35.350 Bell: Teddy! Ooooh. 141 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:38.860 Okay, so you don't like the little bowl he comes with, is what you're saying? 142 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:45.330 Nicole: I don't... I don't like the idea, the concept of this. 143 00:05:45.330 --> 00:05:48.030 This just, it's, there's so much wrong with this. 144 00:05:48.030 --> 00:05:52.170 Because now we're just replacing companionship with technology, 145 00:05:52.200 --> 00:05:55.670 and that's not what it's intended for. 146 00:05:55.940 --> 00:05:56.370 Bell: Mhmm. 147 00:05:56.370 --> 00:06:03.280 Nicole: It can like, assist; it can be a tool to teach, or to like enforce things. 148 00:06:03.280 --> 00:06:07.120 But it shouldn't be a replacement of said things. 149 00:06:07.150 --> 00:06:08.820 Tyson: What if this came with consequences? 150 00:06:10.390 --> 00:06:10.890 Tyson: Like- 151 00:06:11.020 --> 00:06:14.890 Bell: Like John Casio comes to your house and if Mofflin ever runs out of charge, 152 00:06:15.830 --> 00:06:16.990 Bell: they leak your address. 153 00:06:17.590 --> 00:06:19.030 Nicole: But then, at that point- 154 00:06:19.030 --> 00:06:24.170 Like because then if there's consequences to this and then it just becomes like, 155 00:06:24.170 --> 00:06:30.840 you can't use it or it just gets locked, then it's just contributing to e-waste. 156 00:06:31.340 --> 00:06:35.680 Bell: It is crazy also how the company that made my $30 watch made a.. 157 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:36.850 Nicole: That's what I was saying. 158 00:06:36.880 --> 00:06:38.210 Bell: 400 dollars... 159 00:06:38.210 --> 00:06:40.050 Nicole: Check out what Casio's into. 160 00:06:40.080 --> 00:06:40.620 Bjorn: Yeah. 161 00:06:41.320 --> 00:06:42.250 Nicole: They got watches. 162 00:06:42.250 --> 00:06:45.260 Bjorn: So they're so confident; they've got watches, digital pianos, 163 00:06:45.260 --> 00:06:47.590 calculators, medical devices, and Mofflin. 164 00:06:48.590 --> 00:06:50.060 Bell: That's crazy. 165 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:51.730 Tyson: Medical devices with Mofflin is a great... 166 00:06:51.730 --> 00:06:54.830 Bell: And Mofflin came first, too; Mofflin is first on the list. 167 00:06:54.830 --> 00:06:56.800 Bjorn: Medical stuff, who cares? Look at the Mofflin. 168 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:58.500 Bell: And we've got Mofflin technology. 169 00:06:59.170 --> 00:07:00.370 Bell: Wow. 170 00:07:00.740 --> 00:07:03.140 Okay, so what you're saying is we should get this for ShortCircuit. 171 00:07:05.740 --> 00:07:06.680 Tyson: You're going to play with it. 172 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.810 Nicole: Okay, that's the thing; I know I'd love it. 173 00:07:09.910 --> 00:07:13.280 I was like, oh let's make little hats for it, like little outfits. 174 00:07:13.280 --> 00:07:18.490 I'd be so into that; but just the basis of this is so wrong. 175 00:07:18.590 --> 00:07:20.520 Bell: Okay, so what if Mr. Meeks, 176 00:07:20.960 --> 00:07:22.160 Nicole: Oh yeah, Mr. Meeks. 177 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:23.330 Bell: Same cat you know and love. 178 00:07:23.330 --> 00:07:23.960 Nicole: Oh, yeah. 179 00:07:24.090 --> 00:07:26.360 Bell: Picture right here, now you've got to send me a picture. 180 00:07:26.460 --> 00:07:30.800 Bell: Same cat, but you have to wirelessly charge it every five hours, for three hours. 181 00:07:30.930 --> 00:07:33.940 Nicole: But that's- Okay just the idea of that, it's so wrong. 182 00:07:33.940 --> 00:07:39.410 Because the thing that's so precious about pets is that they're not here forever. 183 00:07:39.510 --> 00:07:40.240 Bell: Mmmmm. 184 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.680 Nicole: You cherish the time that you have with them, 185 00:07:42.710 --> 00:07:46.680 and you try to give them the best life that they have while they are here. 186 00:07:47.280 --> 00:07:49.090 Bell: That's why I don't get an animal, that's so sad. 187 00:07:49.090 --> 00:07:51.420 It's like in 18 years, I will be extremely sad. 188 00:07:51.420 --> 00:07:54.020 Bjorn: Well, you know, lithium ion batteries don't last forever, 189 00:07:54.020 --> 00:07:55.460 so the Mofflin is not eternal either. 190 00:07:55.460 --> 00:07:57.130 Nicole: Then it's just e-waste! 191 00:07:57.130 --> 00:08:00.900 Bell: Yeah, but I've paid $55 a year so I can back them up, so I can get another one. 192 00:08:01.730 --> 00:08:02.700 Bell: So I can get another one, yeah. 193 00:08:02.900 --> 00:08:06.000 Peter: $55 a year for 18 years? Yeah, it's like chump change. 194 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:06.670 Bell: Yeah, exactly. 195 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:09.510 Nicole: Let's just have a kid at that point, it's 18 years. 196 00:08:09.570 --> 00:08:10.340 Tyson: It's cheaper than a pet. 197 00:08:10.610 --> 00:08:12.840 Bell: Yeah, and it does more than a pet. 198 00:08:13.080 --> 00:08:14.740 Bjorn: And it comes in two colors. 199 00:08:14.740 --> 00:08:15.780 Tyson: And you have to clean up after it. 200 00:08:15.880 --> 00:08:17.310 Bjorn: I think we actually need to get two. 201 00:08:17.950 --> 00:08:21.480 Bell: Mofflin Gold! Do you want it broke or the gold one? 202 00:08:22.350 --> 00:08:23.750 Bell: They should charge more for the gold one. 203 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.960 Just so people know like you've got that supreme Mofflin. 204 00:08:26.960 --> 00:08:29.930 The Supreme branded Mofflin would go hard. 205 00:08:29.930 --> 00:08:32.160 Tyson: I think Labubu should partner with Mofflin. 206 00:08:32.260 --> 00:08:32.900 Bell: Okay! 207 00:08:32.900 --> 00:08:34.000 Nicole: That's would be terrifying. 208 00:08:34.130 --> 00:08:35.200 Tyson: But it'd be funny. 209 00:08:35.300 --> 00:08:36.030 Nicole: That'd be scare- 210 00:08:36.030 --> 00:08:37.300 Tyson: Like a walking, talking... 211 00:08:37.300 --> 00:08:38.000 Nicole: Oh my god! 212 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.570 Tyson: Labubu Mofflin. 213 00:08:39.700 --> 00:08:41.140 Bell: I love Labubu, I'm on board with that. 214 00:08:41.140 --> 00:08:41.600 Tyson: Yeah. 215 00:08:42.040 --> 00:08:43.370 Bell: Peter, any final thoughts? 216 00:08:44.940 --> 00:08:49.010 Peter: You should get two for ShortCircuit; and then you should treat one with love. 217 00:08:49.010 --> 00:08:49.480 Nicole: No. 218 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:50.380 Peter: And you should... 219 00:08:50.380 --> 00:08:51.410 Bell: Neglect the other one? 220 00:08:51.410 --> 00:08:52.120 Peter: be really mean to the other one; 221 00:08:52.150 --> 00:08:54.920 Peter: and then see if they actually do form different personalities. 222 00:08:54.920 --> 00:08:57.020 Bell: Yeah, this will be a 60-day ShortCircuit. 223 00:08:58.020 --> 00:08:59.360 Nicole: That's so f***ed up. 224 00:08:59.660 --> 00:09:00.620 Bell: Any final thoughts? 225 00:09:00.620 --> 00:09:02.460 Nicole: There's just so much... 226 00:09:02.490 --> 00:09:08.230 Nicole: I'm so conflicted on this; on one side, it's so cute, so soft, so fluffy. 227 00:09:08.230 --> 00:09:13.200 And it could be like a great tool for little kids to learn how to handle animals. 228 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.840 But on the other side, it's like, yeah let's just replace companionship 229 00:09:16.870 --> 00:09:21.040 and the ability to connect with living beings with technology. 230 00:09:21.780 --> 00:09:22.410 Bell: Mmhmm. 231 00:09:23.050 --> 00:09:24.050 Bell: Any final thoughts? 232 00:09:24.150 --> 00:09:27.180 Tyson: I think we should get one, I think they're cute. 233 00:09:27.750 --> 00:09:33.560 I also think that some people don't need to have pets that have pets currently; 234 00:09:34.920 --> 00:09:35.930 and this is a good replacement. 235 00:09:35.930 --> 00:09:39.500 Nicole: You don't need to have a pet; nobody needs to have a pet. 236 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:40.360 But this is like- 237 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:41.230 Tyson: But some people have them. 238 00:09:41.330 --> 00:09:44.500 Nicole: Some people have them because it's like companionship; 239 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:49.010 but you shouldn't be replacing companionship with technology. 240 00:09:49.010 --> 00:09:53.110 Tyson: But would you rather them neglect a real life pet or neglect a Moflin? 241 00:09:53.110 --> 00:09:54.210 Nicole: Then they just shouldn't- 242 00:09:54.210 --> 00:09:57.810 Nicole: Then they need personal growth and development 243 00:09:57.850 --> 00:09:59.250 Nicole: before they get a pet instead of this thing. 244 00:09:59.280 --> 00:10:01.320 Tyson: We can't do that here, we can't do that. 245 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:02.890 Bell: Alright, Bjorn; any final thoughts? 246 00:10:02.990 --> 00:10:06.520 Bjorn: I only found out about this thing yesterday, but I'm already a huge Moflin head. 247 00:10:06.620 --> 00:10:09.690 I really want us to get one so I can just have it on my desk, like, all day. 248 00:10:09.730 --> 00:10:11.430 Bell: 100%; we're making the new ShortCircuit set. 249 00:10:11.430 --> 00:10:14.760 Spoiler alert for Floatplane, putting one on the shelf for sure. 250 00:10:14.860 --> 00:10:16.430 It can just live there in its little bowl. 251 00:10:16.830 --> 00:10:17.670 Bell: Adorable. 252 00:10:17.670 --> 00:10:18.230 Tyson: Neglected. 253 00:10:18.230 --> 00:10:19.140 Bell: Neglected, yeah. 254 00:10:19.940 --> 00:10:21.470 Bell: Alright Floatplane, let us know what you think. 255 00:10:22.610 --> 00:10:25.640 You know, don't make Nicole sad; don't buy one, or do, I don't know. 256 00:10:25.640 --> 00:10:26.410 Make Bjorn happy. 257 00:10:26.540 --> 00:10:27.380 Bjorn: Yay. 258 00:10:27.640 --> 00:10:31.450 Peter: Moflin heads unite! Yeah, Moflin heads. 259 00:10:31.710 --> 00:10:32.920 Peter: Moflin heads! 260 00:10:33.020 --> 00:10:34.650 Peter: It's cute and you're going to love it!