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I remember seeing the press releases for this thing and thinking whoa that seems

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so cool but also who in their right mind would ever buy it I guess now we've got

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the answer because an LTT viewer from Milwaukee put the Galaxy GTX 460 whdi in

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the mail for us and after 10 years I

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finally get to be hands on with to my knowledge the only Wireless GPU that has

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ever existed what makes it a wireless GPU I'm so glad you asked on the back of

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the GPU aside from your DVI and DisplayPort you will find five antennas

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which supposedly allow this graphics card to send an uncompressed low latency

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1080p image to supported devices what

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supported devices I don't know how does it work I guess we're gonna find out and

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the age of this product it was released before Linus Media Group was actually

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founded as a company we're going to be doing the video in a bit of an older

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classic LTT style starting with an overview of the Box what's included oh

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good driver installation disk whoa it

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includes the whdi receiver so theoretically we could actually use this

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on any Modern Display antennas power cable and this is it right this is the

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whole sales pitch free your HD content

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from your PC and display it on your HD TV up to 100 feet away through walls

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with uncompressed less than one millisecond quality

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hahaha on some alcohol handy what what did they

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change their mind about here using HDMI something and whdi you can now stream

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your movies music and pictures to the big screen in glorious 1080p HD with

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support for HD audio have you ever wanted to play the latest DirectX games

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okay so it has one sales pitch reiterated three times

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use this thing with a TV that is far away completely wirelessly what and what

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HDMI 11 4A oh HDMI 1.4 a so it was

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probably 1.4 b or something and they

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interesting there were a number of things that raised questions about this

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product at the time of its release first of all Galaxy which has since been

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renamed Galax is a sub brand of palette

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who also owns a number of other brands gain word Daytona vivku you want an

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expert Vision none of which have ever really had a strong North American

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presence other than maybe game word but

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gameward was a long time in the rear view mirror by the time Galaxy was

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trying to make inroads second of all was the price it was released in January of

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2011 and was sold for a price of 499

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dollars which for a 60 class NVIDIA card

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might not raise a lot of eyebrows today but to put it in context at the time was

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a whopping 315 dollars more than the version that

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didn't have wireless display so it was kind of in a no man's land where it was

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priced like a premium top-tier gaming GPU but then positioned as a replacement

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for a media center GPU which would have

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cost you half as much as even a 460 which was considered overkill for that

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at the time this is an accessory package the likes

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of which I have rarely if ever seen for a GPU what are we looking at here

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first you've got one of the fancy danciest HDMI cables that I think I've

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ever seen included with anything we've got a USB a to USB mini B wow these are

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impact hell am I looking at

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a female usb-8 a mini b and a male USB a

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to mini B izarre

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DVI to VGA adapter that's pretty standard fare I can't believe the

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condition this thing is in it's open box but as far as I can tell this stuff has

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never been touched here's a power adapter for the receiver dock oh yeah I

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know ghost spell power very reputable oh

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yeah yeah very famous Famous Brand

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uh user manual what do they have to say for themselves oh my God yeah that's uh

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definitely dating itself a little bit fun fact by the way even though this GPU

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family the 400 series is no longer getting active driver support we were

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able to find a driver that supports Windows 10 and is only from about four

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years ago so we should be able to play most modern games on it assuming there's

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enough performance whoa

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this thing has like weights in it to keep it from moving

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I guess it's a weighted base station for ah here we go you know what I'm gonna

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leave the peels on I'm Gonna Leave the peels on out of respect for the uh

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viewer who lent us this I don't maybe they like their peels they're an Andy

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type character so this is the whdi

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receiver Hub which is not to be confused with why die which eventually became a

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Modern Standard that we can still make use of today and is built into many TVs

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it was built into some media devices

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including TVs but as far as we can tell it never really evolved and amounted to

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anything the website is still up but as of filming this video it has a picture

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of a PlayStation 3 on the home page meaning that it doesn't look like

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there's much in the way of active development we also have seen this type

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of Technology continue to get support so for example we did a video recently on a

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wireless HDMI solution that can simply be added to any product rather than

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being baked in which is in retrospect the direction in the industry was

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obviously going to go rather than forcing consumers to buy a completely

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new wireless video card every time they wanted to upgrade at a significant

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premium there's our receiver dongle which needs to plug into the wall

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and I don't know what this USB port is

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for but presumably something are you getting all this Brandon maybe just get

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a shot of it like that user's manual

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mini HDMI okay NVIDIA control panel SLI

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oh my God yeah SLI was supported on 60

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class cards it wouldn't surprise me to see an SLI connector on this thing

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I can't even imagine I wonder if the mismatch BIOS would be a

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problem if you tried to SLI it with a non-wireless one

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holy crap this thing is glorious

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wait is this rusting or is this no no it

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can't be rust no no no no it's residue it's residue if you want to talk to

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Galaxy which doesn't exist anymore then you can call that number hold on this

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has got it yeah this has got to be anodized aluminum there's no way

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yeah yeah it comes off it comes off Jake it's not a rusty boy

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pretty cheap for a 500 GPU oh my

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goodness okay what are we looking at here pretty basic board layout oh in

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terms of specs so what was a 460 one gig

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of vram a mere 336 shaders it used the

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same Fermi architecture as the much maligned GTX 480 although the 460 was

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actually a pretty sensible card it didn't have the same power consumption

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problems it's got support for DisplayPort I believe this is 1.1 I want

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to say HDMI 1.4 a although you'll notice

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that the HDMI port is conspicuously absent and of course DVI that's because

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the only HDMI-ish port on this thing is these

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five antennas why does it need five

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antennas you might ask ah because 60 gigahertz wireless didn't

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exist yet these days 1080p 60 wirelessly no problem I mean

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we've got Wireless VR headsets that are doing far higher than that with

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incredibly low latency and indistinguishable visual quality

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but these are all five gigahertz so in

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order to reach the three gigabit per second of advertised throughput it

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needed five five gigahertz streams at 40

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megahertz each at least that's our understanding of it as you guys can

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probably imagine there's not a whole lot of people at Galaxy that we can talk to

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about this technology

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man I freaking love it an advantage of five gigahertz is that unlike the 60

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gigahertz that we use for wireless HDMI today theoretically at least if they're

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advertising is anything to go by we should be able to punch through walls

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with it and that's thanks at least partially to the quality of service

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features that are included with the product that allow it to analyze the

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streams of data figure out which elements are most important and ensure

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that those ones get through how it's doing this with one millisecond latency

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I have absolutely no idea and honestly I kind of just plain don't believe it

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but that's what this is for we're gonna

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install it we actually don't know if it works yet oh my gosh this is

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flipping wild now theoretically we

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shouldn't really need to configure anything about the wireless stream it

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should just work and it features encryption so again theoretically no one

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should be able to Snoop on your video stream because I don't know what kind of

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videos you're watching in your in your full HD TV but maybe you don't want

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people knowing about it that's all I'm saying it's also hdcp 2.0 complaints

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shut up it's hdcp compliant too I mean

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that's pretty cool because you got to remember too that this is a product of

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its time right at the time Optical HDMI

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cables were not really a thing so

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transmitting HDMI over long distances particularly to a projector or something

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like that was very difficult it's the sort of thing I never would have spent

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money on like even if I had it at the time I don't think because you know

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you're buying into a dead upgrade path but it's definitely cool imagine having

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this hanging off the back of your computer probably wouldn't use that HDMI

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cable yeah I'm using the HDMI cable no I want it this is a wireless HDMI

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cable okay it's quality it's gonna work

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you just wait man this is one of those like I feel like uh I feel like a young

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Tech Enthusiast again you know it takes me back to 10 years ago when this stuff

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came out and I was like well that's so cool but I'll never get a chance to look

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at it or touch it so I'm I'm making up for those lost opportunities now this is

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this powered on or what it looks like an IR receiver does this thing have a

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remote again this wasn't the only product to use this technology it is

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possible that it had some kind of intercompatibility with other devices

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for example at Best Buy at the time you could get a whdi hub for about 300 bucks

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so actually not that much less than the

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cost of you know buying this fully integrated device that comes with

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everything you need is there a power light on there there no there isn't a

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power light there's a network light and a video light is this

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yeah let's just let's just turn it on and see what happens huh

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okay what are the odds this just works painlessly and that's why this

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technology was so successful in the long run whoa shut up

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shut up no way

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shut up I have two lights on the back of the GPU I have two lights on this thing

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oh my god did this just oh my God work

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no way

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that is freaking crazy

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never been turned on before

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immediately works

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no no that's probably just the drivers grabbing it we set up this Windows

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install with a 480 because it was something that we already had on hand

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and it would use the same family of drivers so it's probably just sort of

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picking that up oh no okay device manager come on buddy you know what come

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feel this Jake Jake come here oh my God look at it it's jittering okay but hold

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on hold on the latency whoa would you know it's wireless oh my

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God no no don't do that don't do that just move the mouse smooth Mouse

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it's not bad would you know it's wireless no I just think it's like I

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would just think the cable is shoddy which may be true I mean it was folded

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for 10 years in half oh we're totally gonna have to game on

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this right oh yeah oh yeah we got a game on this we might have to play some older

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games you know yeah but we might need to see a source

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never mind CS go Jake wait what this girl could run 2010 didn't it come out

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like 2012. hey okay wait the frequency

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hurts whoa there's like an overlay and stuff oh interesting

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believe this [ __ ] worked out of the box that is wild

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okay you're seeing the real deal here guys this is the only way literally the

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only way that we could capture what's going on here that BenQ monitor is a

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super unique item it has almost every input Under the Sun and most importantly

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it has an output it has HDMI pass-through kind of like some capture

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cards now normally we could use HDMI pass through on a capture card to

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capture what we're doing while also outputting it but because we want to

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show you guys any degradation of quality

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or jitteriness that's coming from the

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wireless connection we actually need to capture what comes through the monitor

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rather than output what comes through a capture card so our capture PC here is

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coming whoo out of the monitor

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yeah that's it it's coming out of the monitor nothing else has gone right

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today but everything here is just immediately working I'm so happy is it

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60 or 30. I mean I'll record it 60. yeah

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it's 1080 60.

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uh it's not interlacing I think it's

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just like blocking and compression artifacts on your side yeah

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yeah interesting I wonder if they're faking the 1080pness of it because

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looking at this guys um whatever they're saying about there

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not being any compression is clearly a

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lie watch how far this is across the screen versus how far this is across the

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screen see the window deforming as I move it

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back and forth I have seen an effect like this on cheap

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tablet screens I've seen an effect like

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this on LCDs in very cold weather so

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where the where the switching speed of the pixels is affected by the actual

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almost freezingness like the the gel like state of the liquid crystals

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um I've never seen it on a wired connection but then again I still

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haven't because this is clearly Wireless we haven't seen it yet but apparently a

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feature of this quality of service feature that it has is that some aspects

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of the image can be lost altogether or not update altogether if they are deemed

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to be less important apparently nothing we were doing was considered important

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in that case hey there it is it is 1080i you're right there must be

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de-entralizing on the receiving box yeah so they're actually completely faking

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the 1080p aspect of it now hold on just

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a gosh darn minute here in glorious 1080p I guess they don't

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technically say that the source is 1080p

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so as long as your device supports upscaling 1080i to 1080p then you will

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be experiencing it in maybe not glorious 1080p but 1080p nonetheless and not

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fooling around on the desktop though let's play a video game

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how pissed off would you have been if you were advertised glorious 1080P and

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you got this jittery mess for five hundred dollars but as angry as I am the

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flip side is that there was absolutely nothing else even close to this

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and once I'm in content um

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not gonna lie guys it's not nearly as noticeable okay this

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is totally playable especially in a game that has like you know Ambiance you know

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like got film grain or or fog effects or

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anything like that okay hold on I want to look at it head

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on here there's a little bit of Jitter

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you can see it see how he's kind of

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bouncing up and down a little bit everyone just calls me coach but when

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you're playing like really playing in the zone it's not the kind of thing that

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you'd be likely to notice with that said one of the use cases that they advertise

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for it is multimedia like watching HD

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movies in a movie this would drive me absolutely bonkers

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not cool not cool Galaxy

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yeah let's try okay yeah let's try something a little more demanding I

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think we figured out the weird USB cables it seems like you can also

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wirelessly transmit USB all you've got to do is inject usb2 there we go into

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the back of the GPU then you get a female USB hanging off

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the back of this guy huh and theoretically I think it'll just

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work huh probably not okay I have no idea where

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we would find drivers for something like that at this point honestly it's bad

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enough close up like this that I really don't think we even need to see it not

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gonna lie in a game like this where every little bit counts this is not this

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is not cutting it not cutting it even a little the really

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good latency experience we were having before I think was due to the uh

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relatively low complexity of the image oh it looks awful now yeah I don't even

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think we need to I don't think there's anything else

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sure give it a shot I wonder if I look up you should watch a

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video it's gonna look bad

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but this feels bad man oh we're in a

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real match so you'll have to wait maybe you're just bad man no it feels

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bad I hope oh God see what I mean lean back you're blocking my signal

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oh my God God whoa does it affect it that much no no

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no I might have just been a random Spike you're not sniping everybody else is

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oh God no no not even a little

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Xbox controller oh no I can't believe console people deal with

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it I know I mean they don't deal with this anymore

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not by a long shot let's try some video

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oh my God look at the move oh God

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yeah the fact that they advertised this as

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uncompressed if anyone had ever actually bought it

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there would have been lawsuits this looks fine

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yeah you can't tell on camera that much actually it seems oh we got screen caps

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hopefully it wasn't so bad the second time the first time I looked at it and all the crabs were moving so I just like

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walking oh yeah that's awful oh look at

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the legs that's that quality of service right

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there oh yeah he needs legs anyway right

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over

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oh there's just stuff just missing sometimes though

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