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welcome to the WAN Show guys it's august 16th which is actually almost my

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birthday i know you give zero cares about birthdays and you had no idea that was

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coming but you know what i actually did did you because the last time it was

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your birthday i put it in my phone oh good work okay

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well it's my birthday and my cat decided to help me celebrate by peeing on my

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motorcycle jacket so if you had detected the smell of cat urine about me

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then um no actually that is where it was coming from not from this vulgar shirt

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that would have been equally plausible yeah yeah so so this shirt is uh my

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special treat for all the viewers there today who wanted to see me wearing this

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kind of a shirt it's absolutely horrible it's for an upcoming video where my

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character is just sort of a horrible person in general but anyway we've got

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some great topics for the WAN Show there's a new witcher 3 trailer which

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we're going to be definitely talking about we've also got some exciting stuff

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there's a ton of rumors about AMD's upcoming graphics cards so we'll be uh

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shooting the breeze about that our special guest remember guys our special

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guests are powered by razer comms so check out the

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there it's a little bit higher than usual there's a lot of headroom here uh

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our special guests are powered by razer comms you can download it here it helps

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us out a great deal it's a voice chat client optimized for gaming as opposed

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to for talking with your mother who lives in another country like skype so

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things like the game overlays or the overlays won't kill you and disrupt your

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gameplay all that kind of good stuff it's free it's beta

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definitely can't emphasize that enough for a lot of people have been saying oh

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razor combs isn't perfect yes we know it's not perfect razer knows that's why

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it's called beta um i i hope it's not like perpetually beta like gmail yeah

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remember how long gmail was beta and minecraft yeah

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they both worked like minecraft felt like a fully finished game i think he

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was just like no no no no no no no

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okay but this is legitimately beta so they're issuing patches like every few

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days anyway guys definitely try it out try it out with your gaming group use

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the bitly link here it helps us out a whole heck of a lot so our special guest

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this week is ryan shrout from pc perspective so we're going to be talking

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to him about AMD's new frame pacing driver as well as maybe you know

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shooting the breeze about some of the some of the rumors it's uh it's always

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kind of iffy how much the media folks can say and can't say because once they

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actually hear something officially then it's kind of hard to talk about it

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whereas if they're not the source and you know they don't know anything about it anyway then it's a little bit then

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it's a little bit easier there so without further ado

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intro time where's the intro

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you have got to be kidding me same exact same thing as last week yes

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it is the exact same thing as last week you would think that i would somehow

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predict that but that is that is actually not what happens sometimes

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when these things do occur in such a way

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that people are stalling for time which

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should be obvious at this point was that i think that this is

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so there you have it guys we are finally kicked off so why don't we dive right

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into maybe one quick topic here and then we're gonna ask ryan to join us because

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he is in the eastern time zone and has very kindly asked to join us at the

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earliest possible opportunity so that he can like sleep

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that's kind of important yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna take a shot at him for that once he gets on here because real nerds

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don't need sleep so you know i think we all know that that's

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true so what do we got as our opening kickoff here uh might as well jump right

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into the top one which is ea humble bundle ea humble bundle yes indeed so

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for those of you who haven't heard i'm just gonna go ahead and open this up on

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the old laptop here boom there it is the humble origin

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bundle eight games

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and i think the average price last time i looked was around four bucks

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which is outstanding uh where is it four dollars and eighty

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cents so it's actually going up now ea has outdone themselves here which isn't

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has taken shots ea has outdone themselves here because

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normally the way humble bundle works is it's up to the person buying the bundle

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to decide how much money to allocate to

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the developer and then how much to allocate to humble bundle you know hey

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thanks for doing this and a charity there's usually at least one charity

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tied in ea has taken out the developer

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they probably knew no one was going to give them any money

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oh i'm sorry ea you guys are actually kind of awesome this time so you've got

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the option to give some money to humble bundle and then you have your choice of

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five outstanding charities including human rights campaign watsi san

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francisco aids foundation american cancer society and american red cross

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and you can allocate however much of the money you're paying to whoever you want

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in whatever proportion you want which is just a really cool thing to do they have

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sold over 1.1 million bundles and raised

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over 5.5 million dollars for charity and

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people that are crying about origin because it's the humble bundle origin

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bundle yes i think it's like five out of the eight games come with steam codes

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yes so you there look at this e actually

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yeah i'm not even gonna you know do this because it's not fair they have gone

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the extra mile here most of the games are available on steam

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we usually wreck them but give credit where credit's due this is pretty

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freaking awesome yep and you know it's funny i we we had some comments on our

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forum hey guys ea must have been watching your last livestream because

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you burned them for only contributing i think it was uh 16 000 or something

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you know what they're giving away their games for charity this week they're

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raising millions of dollars so

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that's the way to do it good job there we go the first time we've ever

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applauded ea on this show well but like yeah we've applauded them

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like ironically but not but not seriously this is serious serious

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applause good job ea there's there's been some problems with activating origin codes

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and stuff like that but they are i was saving that for like the punchline oh

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sorry yeah so sims 3 uh there's been

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some issues people haven't been able to activate it there doesn't seem to be a

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clear answer whether it's related to region or Windows 8 or

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ea's pointing the finger back at humble bundle

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about why it's not working and then humble bundle saying that they might be

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region specific but then some people outside of the us

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are activating them so i don't i don't know what's going on at all they are

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they are claiming to be working on it and five of the games come with steam codes anyways so we'll give them that

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anyway you guys uh so the games that you get are dead space burnout paradise the

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ultimate box crysis 2 maximum edition mirror's edge dead space 3 medal of

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honor and if you pay more than the average price you get battlefield 3 the

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sims 3 plus the starter pack which i believe is two extra content packs okay

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so absolutely outstanding without further ado i would like to invite mr

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the WAN Show so we're making our call remember guys guests are powered by

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razer comms download razer comms and let's add our guest lower third brian

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gave us a fantastic number of

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okay we're going to restart this really quick we're also going to add our guests

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lower third so we have a special lower third for our guest now ryan gave us a

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fantastic choice of different options for us to use for his lower

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third he sent us two pictures both of which were this one

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so that that was a bit interesting so speaking of the beta status of razer

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comms we're going to go ahead and delete system 32 which is one of the helpful

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tips that was given to us here on twitter to help us diagnose any kinds of

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system issues that we might be having there you go thank you christian moley

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uh for giving us that uh that great little tip there you are truly a

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gentleman and a scholar

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ryan are you there yeah there you are all right

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so how's it going how's uh how's the pc reviewing biz

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uh it it goes it continues it's a never-ending process as you're aware um

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some weeks more exciting than others but uh i have a feeling that the the rest of

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the year will be as exciting as the early part of the summer was

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well that is uh that is a very very uh

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helpful clue for the viewers i think if

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they if they know what was going on in the early part of the summer and it's

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funny that you should mention that because i remember AMD saying something

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along the lines of we are not releasing a new GPU architecture this year

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and then um yeah they said that didn't they they sure they did say that they they did say

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that um you know i think what they actually said at the

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point at that point was that the there were rumors that a new GPU was

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coming very soon and they said uh our product lineup is going to be stable

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through 2013. you can you know you can pr speak that

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in kind of any way you want right and then they kind of had a call and said well

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i think at the end of the call they did kind of admit that there would be something before the end of the year

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obviously they were very wishy-washy about it and after they made the

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statement about stable throughout the year how many weeks was it or how many

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days was it before they released 77.90 which was actually not quite based

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on the same design as the previous gpus

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right yeah i mean you're right it wasn't that

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long and it it's it's a it's a it's a

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it's a it's an interesting web they we they weave right all these companies

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kind of do that and i think they were afraid of people assuming that you know

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they were going to release new gpus in june or july and thus kind of killing

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any possible sales in the march april may

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time frame you know that's always what you gotta with any release of hardware

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or gadgets or whatever you don't want people to know about the new one too

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early otherwise they won't want to buy the old one that you have warehouses and

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warehouses of which is funny because so many different

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companies take such different approaches to this you look at Intel where their

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road maps are i mean even general consumers reading reviews

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on pc perspective or other hardware sites are going to know what's coming

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for the next couple years um and then NVIDIA and AMD

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like they hold their cards like close to their chest to the point where

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is there a purpose well so Intel has that a capability

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because they're such a the dominant player in the market right so um

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they don't really have any real big competition from AMD in mobile or

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desktop or you know uh all-in-one pcs and that kind of thing so

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when when they think about their roadmap they can change it kind of however they

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want and they're not going to be affected they're not going to get dinged in the market they're not going to get

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you know dinged by well they might get dinged by enthusiasts but it's not really going to matter uh because

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the the blip we make on their sales radar is relatively small so uh because

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they don't have any real strong competition they don't worry if

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AMD knows what they have planned whereas AMD uh and NVIDIA on the graphics side

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definitely worry about what the other one has planned

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that is a very good point you know what this wasn't on our live stream document

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but i want to talk apu because these rumors have been swirling for a long

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time and uh there was an article recently that was on a fairly

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non-credible site i think it was a pc perspective or something like that no

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just kidding it was different um that AMD is going to abandon the

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high-end desktop CPU market

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what do you make of this um it wouldn't really surprise me at all

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because Intel tries to do that

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every chance they get right so um

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sandy bridgey has has been around for way too long ivy bridge is right around

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the corner but ivy bridge e and sandy bridge these kind of high-end

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workstation processors that enthusiasts buy into are

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really just that their server and workstation parts that are kind of being

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trimmed down there's i mean if you look at ivy bridge if you look at haswell

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those parts really started like the 350 range and go down there's no real

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high-end market in those what i would consider mainstream

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processors at this point um AMD has a big disadvantage in terms of

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performance in terms of efficiency their bulldozer architecture kind of flopped

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miserably you know they i'm sure you guys talked about them when they released the 220 watt eight core

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processor that ran at five gigahertz and

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what kind of a joke that actually is that you

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know it's a a thousand dollar AMD processor an 800 AMD processor that runs

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at two times the thermal limit of an iv bridge or haswell that it can't really

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keep up with in terms of performance so um you know AMD has brought in

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engineers on the CPU and the GPU side so i wouldn't really count them out 100 yet

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but it's going to be at least you know 18 months 24 months or beyond before we

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see a kind of turnaround it takes that long in the micro architecture world and it's

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funny you mentioned that because we talk about AMD and NVIDIA jealously guarding

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secrets from each other even down to things like the uh the day of a

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particular launch when we're a month away but like you said adding a new

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architecture to a team or adding a new architect to a team or

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new engineers to a team um probably won't affect an actual product

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until 18 to 24 months down the line so it really

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raises the question why do they bother well so

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obviously if they're doing that then they believe that there is still a market for discrete higher end

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processors and i think what we're going to find is more of these overlaps are

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going to occur with the server and workstation world there's not going to be any kind of dedicated desktop

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processors i know everybody is afraid about the move of Intel to bga only

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processors um and that's that's kind of an inevitable

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outcome with these 200 and below

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processors that's just the way the markets are going to work

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well you look at the way they trim costs on a motherboard saving 32 cents

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is actually a thing and you look at the cost of a socket if they could stop

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putting a socket on a board i think both Intel and the motherboard manufacturers

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would be giving it the old thumbs up well i think the motherboard manufacturers will hate it because they

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are now responsible then for twice the the product rma right so if a processor

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has an issue they're now responsible for returning that replacing it and all that

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kind of stuff uh it also means they have to have if they want to even attempt to

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offer the same amount of choice they're going to have to drastically increase

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their skew count right so if you get like an ASUS z87 pro motherboard now you

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want it do you want it with the high-end processor the mid-range processor the

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low-end processor i'm going to play devil's advocate here

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and i'm going to throw this at you because having worked in retail i've

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seen a pretty good cross-section of rma percentages and cpus are

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like one in a thousand maybe motherboards are a whole heck of a lot

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more than that so i would actually argue that the CPU

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defects rate will affect motherboard

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rmas less than end user error installing

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cpus into sockets which i've seen a lot of yeah i mean that that's you know

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that's that's entirely possible i guess because

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i well i know for a fact that motherboard vendors hated it when am or

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when Intel removed the pens from the processor and put them on

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the uh the socket themselves and that was kind of everybody took it

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as Intel kind of given the finger to the board vendors and say well if you still

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want to play in our ecosystem you kind of have to do what we want to do so yeah

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i i can see that point of view that that it would actually lower rmas on that

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product as a whole but it still would be a kind of pricing and skewing issue that

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uh Intel would essentially be shipping off to their their board partners they

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probably just have to have less skus like the pro board might come with one

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or two different options and that'll be that and i think honestly it's going to

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cause more problems for the retailers than it will necessarily for the board

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makers because you have to stock so much more stuff and the product managers are

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going to have to be so much more educated than they used to be you can't

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just kind of you know be a machine ordering every

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board ordering every CPU and then just kind of watching what customers buy and

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replenishing as needed you'll have to actually make intelligent choices about

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um and at the product management level both at the manufacturer and at the

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retailer where they have to decide what the end user will probably want

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because sometimes it's not that predictable yeah like i'd put together

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bundles sometimes sort of on a whim oh i

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need a i need to fill up like a fourth bundle spot

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and then that would be the one that would sell and i'd be floored

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unless it's like uh sabre who said 77 and 35 70k then you know that'll do well

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z87 with a 4670k i mean ryan how many people do you think are buying a

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different CPU with that board

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modest as it is now uh in terms of what parts diy guys are

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actually picking up i'm sure um it's just it's i think when this happens you

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will see people leave the motherboard business

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that aren't giant players already

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i i guess this is it's gonna sound bad i'm okay with that right you know

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they're they're all compare the number of motherboard manufacturers today to what they were

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five ten years ago let's go 10 years ago um and

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um dfi was a big player all these guys that

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used to try to make enthusiasts uh diy parts a lot of them are gone and we're

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really kind of left with a handful ASUS Gigabyte MSI

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um you know you've got others like asrock and evga that are still in there that

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are doing interesting things but it's it's really down to a couple of main

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players but i wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me now Intel's let uh gone

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essentially from that market they're not building boards on their own anymore uh

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that you would kind of really be left with like evie or ASUS and Gigabyte

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maybe that's it right you know you just never know

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fascinating so i'd like to take this opportunity for a moment to uh ask you

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guys to direct some twitter questions to

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ryan we're gonna do a twitter blitz with him before he has to leave us again he

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apparently has to sleep because he's he's weak unlike the rest of us nerds

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yeah i heard you i heard you bashing me earlier for that it's not it's not

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it's not to sleep so much as it is um my

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wife would like to see me on friday i guess is what it comes down to your wife

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actually wants to spend time with you yeah i know it's kind of different it's

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kind of different but you know i i do i do late shows on

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wednesdays and late shows on thursdays and and it's uh it's easier that way

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speaking of which do take this time to pimp your podcast and anything else that

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you think people should definitely pay attention to you on twitter guys you

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need to follow ryan on twitter at pc per but uh ryan tell them a little bit about

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what you do if they don't already know i just kind of came into this with that

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assumption sure uh so pcpur.com is the

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website we do hardware reviews of processors motherboards graphics cards

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uh we do some laptops and some tablets and all that other uh hardware and

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gadgety type stuff we've been doing this for a long time i think it was stuck on

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the phone with somebody i've been doing this for over 13 years almost 14 years

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now yeah you're old man i am trust me

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i'm 31 and i feel like i'm 51 when i see

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how how many people move around in this industry as it is um but pcp.com is the

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website we do a lot of cool stuff there we have our podcast uh which you can get

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access to either the rss or the videos or the audio files at pcper.com

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podcast we record that on wednesday nights um

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live as well i think we have our own pcp.com live channel too so if anybody's

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interested just go to pc pro.com we've got a schedule on the right hand side

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for all of our live events and then all of our reviews

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and articles are obviously throughout the website in fact that was how ryan

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and i met was he invited me to be a guest on the pc per podcast which i

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would of course be happy to do again for you man so uh cool

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definitely throwing that out there he hasn't invited me back though

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i just want more people to see my face everywhere on the internet please ryan

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well see here you don't even i i'm left to a caricature of myself

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in the middle

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i like the artwork with the coloring with the green and the kind of matches the sight design i don't know if that

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was on purpose but i like that my guy is awesome uh that's actually diesel the

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intern is the the guy who does all of our graphics and all that cool stuff and

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i think he did a fantastic job it's definitely on purpose it's an intense

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that's an intense photo of me that's from uh that's from quakecon that i was

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at just a couple weeks ago i think that's the only still photo of him i

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have ever seen no there's one other one is there yeah

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there are some funny ones going around uh there's one from quakecon where somebody i'm wearing uh flashing red

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cooler master uh kanye west glasses and there's a guy in a horse mask behind me

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so look for that excellent

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so speaking of uh kanye west let's talk

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about one of the big things that pc per has been doing that has sort of uh

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rubbed people the wrong way but unlike kanye west has caused some

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definite positive change in the industry and of course i want to talk about AMD's

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new frame pacing driver

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yeah what do you want to know it's it's much better

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thanks man so uh basically here we go this is one of the articles on pcpur.com

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guys definitely check it out if you search for a frame rating catalyst 13.8

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um if you could summarize this in a nutshell give us kind of the story what

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you found out what you reported back to AMD what they said to you and what

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eventually came out as

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13.8 so the the drama has been going on for a

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long time right where we discovered that

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AMD's multi-GPU technology

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has been producing some awkward results uh hard work is one way of

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putting it bad they're very they're they're bad results you were getting much lower

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observed frame rates than what you would

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appear to be getting when you looked at benchmark numbers and fraps and in most reviews

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and uh that was you know we we kind of we worked out a new benchmarking system

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where we're actually capturing the output directly from the graphics card

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uh and then doing post-processing analyzation analyzation rather on that

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data and it took a long time right so the

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idea of micro stuttering the idea that people who for years and years really

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have felt that you know when i am running multiple gpus it doesn't feel as

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smooth sometimes as when i'm running on a single GPU and that was almost as far

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as the anal analyzing got because it was impossible to

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quantify it in any meaningful way because and there was so much

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fun yeah sorry yeah there was i mean you

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went on any forum and there was a dozen

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people saying this and a dozen people saying that and no one agreed with

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anyone right and everybody said some people said oh i don't see it and some

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people said it's it's horrendous i cannot play

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on an uh sli or crossfire system and

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that went on basically since the reintroduction of multi-GPU into the

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world of pc enthusiasts um and so the the advent of this what we

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call frame rating which is the ability to capture the output directly i mean

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the amount of data that this requires is tremendous if we capture 2560 by 1440 at

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60 hertz essentially emulating a display we're

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talking about 400 to 425 megabytes per

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second of right that we have to you know get into a storage system to get raw raw

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data out of it and sustainable if you drop one frame you have to throw the

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whole thing away correct right if you miss if you miss one frame all the data

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he did was wrong so it took us a while to figure out the right hardware

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combination and software combination and get that to work but we have done it and

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what we did over several over several months and several articles was show

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here's where AMD is faulting their their

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their crossfire is not balanced it's not pacing the frames out in a in a

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comfortable way that makes the animation smooth on the screen and AMD

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at first fought back about it uh and then slowly you know how you have like

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those five stages of acceptance right so you can move in and you're angry at

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first and then your denial yeah yeah you deny it and

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they eventually accepted it and they started work on a new driver and this

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was not a a minor task they had to rewrite much of their catalyst

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software stack in order to get this to work so they spent a lot of time and they put

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a lot of effort into getting this fixed and with the catalyst 13.8 beta they

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essentially have been able to in my opinion they

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haven't made it as good as what NVIDIA has done with their frame pacing but

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it's close enough that for the very specific situations

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i would consider crossfire to be a fixed

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problem andy when i started my honest

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situations are single monitor

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uh attachment oh hold on ryan we're dropping uh we're

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dropping some frames on the stream here let's just see if uh it has to do with

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that sorry um so i think we're back now it looks like

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we're not dropping any frames and uh okay here we go starting voice

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chat and bringing ryan back to the show

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nope no well we're trying to bring ryan back to the show okay let's go ahead and

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give this one more try here man i love this show anything can happen

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you never know what's gonna happen in theory we've got like news and uh

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we should be wgh live what's gonna happen live yeah

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like it could be absolutely anything oh apparently oh ryan schroed is calling

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me yo dawg hey that sounds like a connection again

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all right okay so let's look okay let's go to mine

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and ryan's conversation apparently that's what we're gonna go to let's go

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let's go to uh here we go this

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okay so you were telling us about how AMD's drivers basically were not up to

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snuff the observed frame rate was much lower and they pretty much rewrote a

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huge part of their catalyst driver to release 13.8 and this is a graph from

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pcpur.com tell us about this

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so what used to happen before

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is that your framing is reported

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hold on audio quality is uh deciding that it hates its life here

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we're not dropping any frames on the stream yet but uh

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let's oh we're dropping frames yeah okay we're

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done and we're back with reduced stream

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quality again which is a most excellent

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thing so ryan let's pick up where we left off tell us about this graph

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right here to my camera right

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so uh what the what the graph used to tell us before the 13.8 driver

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is that there was a difference between what fraps would see

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in terms of performance and what our observed frame rate would see in terms

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of performance and our observed frame rate took things out that were we

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considered to call runt frames frames that were too small to really matter or

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drop frames that obviously never show up on the screen well fraps sees things

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differently than what you do when you actually capture the video directly so

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um what 13.8 does it implements

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something called frame pacing when you have two gpus

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rather than immediately

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tell each GPU to render the next frame

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as soon as the next one's done what you do is you kind of you watch what the

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pattern of frames are doing how long it takes each frame

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to render and you kind of adjust the time a little bit here and there you

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maybe pause a little bit before you send the data from the game engine to the

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next uh or for the next frame to the next GPU so

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that you get an even distribution of frames both being rendered and thus

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being displayed on the screen at the same time and it's a it's more of an art

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than a science as it turns out because there's so much that happens

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between the game engine directx the GPU driver and then the GPU hardware itself

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um so it it it's it's it's kind of something that

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it took a long time for them to be able to get right or close enough to write

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and as i was saying earlier like the 13.8 driver is a big enough step forward

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that i'm comfortable saying that AMD has fixed it for

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single monitor configurations so if you have a 1920x1080 screen or a 2560x4

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resolution monitor and you have crossfire 7970s or 7870s or you have one

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of the 7990s then i think that what AMD has done has

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improved things enough for me to start recommending those configurations again

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i should also note it doesn't fix dx9 games the only fixes dx 10 and 11.

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um that was more of a time issue for them i guess but dx9 games

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we'll go ahead and give them the benefit of the doubt that um those tend to be

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lower demanding on your graphics cards so you know if

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they had to put priorities someplace dx 10 and 11 make sense

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yeah and it's it's not like that might come out when this isn't in beta anymore

448
00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:07,519
or something that could be a future feature i mean with that said witcher 2

449
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:10,000
is directx 9 yep so yeah still pretty

450
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:13,360
important and but like i said like it still could come

451
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:17,840
the other thing that i think is worth noting is

452
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:23,600
this does not improve ifinity configurations at all

453
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:28,000
so if you are a user that has a triple monitor setup for gaming it's it's very

454
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:32,240
likely then that you will also have a crossfire configuration of some kind uh

455
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:36,720
and this this current driver does not fix that

456
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:41,200
AMD has said that they're working on improving that and getting that fixed

457
00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:45,679
address to those resolutions as well but i don't have a timetable for it and

458
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:51,760
i don't really have a whole lot of confidence they'll get that in place

459
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:54,080
like before their next GPU launch even

460
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:58,399
right so actually that was uh that was one of those next things i was going to

461
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:03,840
say is how important was the timing for AMD to get this driver fix for them to

462
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:08,240
have a really compelling story around their upcoming gpus because for a long

463
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:14,000
time they had that timer on their website uh AMD world's fastest graphics

464
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:18,559
card for however long running for them to be able to realistically claim a

465
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:23,039
crown like that it can't be like world's fastest graphics card asterisk if you

466
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:27,440
run at this particular resolution with this particular configuration in this

467
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,440
particular

468
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,559
the the issue i had with that claim because the 790 launched the middle of

469
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:41,360
all this commotion right so when 79.90 7990k mount

470
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:45,519
uh it obviously depends on crossfire to function a better than a single radio

471
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:49,279
hd7970 so that claims the world's fastest graphics

472
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:54,640
i kind of hadn't laughed at it and it is if you look at 3d marks and if you look at

473
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,080
fraps and you're not looking at kind of the experience of playing the game then

474
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:03,120
those claims could be made realistically uh but

475
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:09,200
the truth is it wasn't until this driver came out that i didn't think they had a realistic

476
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,919
option of digging that claim but uh the

477
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:15,520
world of reality in the world of public relations and marketing and advertising

478
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:18,480
are very different uh and not just in computer hardware but

479
00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:23,679
in most of the things that we're involved with in our life uh right so it

480
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,359
didn't it didn't surprise me although it did

481
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,800
i think uh getting a lot of flack for in the in the online community and on

482
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:35,679
forums and stuff like that from articles like mine that pointed out those flaws

483
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:40,079
all right well you sound like you're on auto-tune uh speaking of kanye west

484
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:45,359
again because i think we're at the very limit of what our connection can sustain

485
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,919
right now i am very envious of you for

486
00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:52,879
even having the opportunity to pay however much too much you're paying for

487
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:56,800
30 30 fiber because i think it's time for us to move in that direction i guess

488
00:34:55,119 --> 00:35:00,839
we'll have to let you go because we apparently can't do voice and video at

489
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:05,520
the same time right now but thank you ryan um

490
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:09,520
once again guys oh sorry go ahead absolutely and uh if you guys

491
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,040
we can try to get another week it's not gonna be a deal once uh you get the

492
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:17,599
internet figured out and uh i'd love to come on and talk about these issues and

493
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,000
more when we know more about next reviews that are coming up in cpus as

494
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:26,320
well all right why don't we schedule you intentively for after AMD releases their

495
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,760
new graphics cards i'm really sorry to the viewers as well as you ryan because

496
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:32,880
i really had a few more topics that i wanted to touch on with you that i

497
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:37,920
thought you were going to have some great contributions to um so once again

498
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:41,440
guys ryan from pc per who talks like a

499
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:45,839
robot a little a little bit more cuts in there but that was pretty good

500
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,920
thanks ryan thanks

501
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,560
he really does sound like he's on auto tune

502
00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:01,280
okay so hopefully this can hold all right hopefully hopefully ryan's

503
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:06,000
wife is okay with us taking up far too much of his time here tonight

504
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:12,160
and can i just yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah nuke that all

505
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:13,920
right so back to the regular show here

506
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,920
guys i'm sorry we weren't able to do some of the twitter questions for ryan

507
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,359
uh due to the technical difficulties with our internet connection we're gonna

508
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,680
get in touch with our provider and see if we can get some kind of white list

509
00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:30,240
thing going on or we a callback i'm scheduled on a callback so

510
00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:34,000
i might be running at some point but yeah all right so yeah they don't like

511
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:38,960
how much bandwidth we're eating right now no let's jump into the dangers of

512
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:45,440
online impersonation yeah which i think was an article by you and this is

513
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:46,560
awesome this is freaking amazing so this

514
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:51,359
website is actually um like a buddy of mine from

515
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:55,920
the industry's website i'm not going to name any names he actually recently left

516
00:36:53,760 --> 00:37:01,839
the company he was at and it's just like his personal site and i really hope it

517
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:05,280
loads for me it's i'll i'm just gonna i'm just gonna stop i'm just gonna shut

518
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,200
my computer down

519
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,839
apparently we can't even load a website

520
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,760
in addition to what we're streaming right now like we

521
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:19,440
are at the very limits of what our internet connection can do

522
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:22,480
which is phenomenally disappointing if you can

523
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:32,880
hold i'm just going to go around and turn off everything in the house yeah just just just do it hit everything

524
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,880
um there's another thing uh anyways

525
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,079
all right cool

526
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:48,160
our bit rate ain't uh ain't even that high there guys

527
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:53,680
we we're not we're not asking for that much we're trying to load a page that is

528
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,680
all text right now

529
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,920
i'm gonna take a sip of water calm my nerves

530
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:08,640
i'm gonna like shut off wi-fi on my phone

531
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,720
okay everything in the house is off or

532
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:15,040
not connected to our internet at all except for the server which i'm assuming

533
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:19,280
you don't want me to do your laptop in that computer

534
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:21,040
all right

535
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,640
yeah um no so

536
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:29,119
there's a few topics that i can probably do without the pages

537
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:33,200
if you can tweet the urls maybe from your phone through

538
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,880
we can get people to see the pages that way all right and i won't turn on my

539
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:42,160
computer but if you can bring me to the dock all right a little bit of a cool which

540
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:46,240
urls do you want all right so there's grand theft auto online

541
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:50,079
and civilization online are two things that were very recently launched

542
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,119
let's talk civ online because i want them to be able to watch the trailer

543
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,160
with us optimally okay so is sieve online even in here

544
00:38:54,720 --> 00:39:00,480
save online is not in here but i was going to do it as a combo topic with

545
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:04,960
grand theft auto of course you were um i find it interesting that these companies

546
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:10,800
like civilization sid meier civilization um are releasing dlcs and planning new

547
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,480
releases for their single-player games

548
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,680
um that have maybe a multiplayer component but then are also releasing an

549
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:20,480
online version like a non-numbered iteration online

550
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,960
version of their game so gta 5 is coming out soon

551
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:27,440
but then all these announcements about gta online

552
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:32,640
it's just kind of weird it's it's interesting market position um

553
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:38,800
it looks very different gta online is sandboxy like gta 5

554
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:43,280
but there's a lot of you can make your own little like combat levels

555
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:48,800
and you can customize is it just combat levels

556
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:48,800
all right here we go 3g to the rescue

557
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:57,839
and here it is folks so this is the gta online trailer which looks absolutely

558
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:57,839
amazing

559
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:08,800
rockstar games is looking to bring the heart of the grand theft auto experience

560
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:13,440
to a living online world with multiple players

561
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:18,240
just what you choose to do in that world is up to you

562
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:21,280
we're back at even lower quality

563
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:26,160
so there you go guys back to the

564
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,160
gta trailer that we left off on here

565
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,760
i'm going to try pressing that again

566
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:41,000
so you can you can rob liquor stores this is like a classic online

567
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,000
multiplayer gamepl

568
00:40:52,400 --> 00:41:00,800
uh left me wondering about is can you like be a cop real money maybe

569
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:04,720
you can buy interesting i doubt it but interesting

570
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:08,880
so here's just someone's like cool pad and here's someone's like cool garage

571
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:14,319
with cool cars in it so they've got racing game elements

572
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:17,280
FPS game elements flying game elements

573
00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:21,200
what appears to be like riptide like

574
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:21,200
sort of helps you progress

575
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:28,160
they're going to have everything my one thing is i hope they make it big enough

576
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,520
because this gta online there's going to be a million people actually more than

577
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:38,640
that trying to play well they claim that they're going to be constantly expanding

578
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,760
the game world yeah i just hope they start with it expanded enough because

579
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,040
there's gonna be a huge rush of people they've got a map editor where they're

580
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:49,119
saying they'll allow you to build your own levels and your own uh challenges

581
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:52,400
and stuff like that and it looks like a very solid map editing

582
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:03,440
so there you have it guys gta online so you were tying this into civilization

583
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,240
online i just i find it interesting that games

584
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,280
we saw this a while back and it didn't really take and now it's kind of

585
00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:14,800
happening again where games are trying to release the like uh online

586
00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:18,319
nomenclature on the end of their game just release it and go with it

587
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:24,720
but i think it can actually work this time before the infrastructure wasn't really

588
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:27,040
there now it is i think this gta maybe

589
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:31,200
civilization but gta more i think can actually run with this and have their

590
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,480
more single players super graphics super heavy

591
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:39,119
uh modifiable everything because the modding community behind gta 4 is insane

592
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,720
some of the screenshots for gta 4 are just nuts

593
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:48,240
and really really heavy single player storyline but then also have gta online

594
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,880
i think it's a really good move it's interesting but i think it's a really good move

595
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,319
so civilization 5 online or civilization

596
00:42:54,319 --> 00:43:00,240
online or whatever you want to call it because this would be civilization six

597
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,520
by this point it it would be civilization six if that's what you

598
00:43:01,839 --> 00:43:09,599
called it but then it it acts differently because you can like it is much more

599
00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:14,000
online than civilization five is cause civilization is one of the worst

600
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:18,079
multiplayer experiences ever i mean i've been trying to get a civilization

601
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:23,440
online game completed since like civ 2 test of time

602
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:27,760
they have they have a freaking option so that you can have it so it sends out an

603
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:31,839
email when it's someone's turn so they can log in and then do their

604
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:35,920
turn and then people can wait so it's going to be more like words with friends

605
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:39,119
no i'm talking about uh five to five oh the existing like

606
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,560
yeah the newer one is supposed to be a perpetual environment which is

607
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,599
interesting i just and i think this might fix their whole awkward online

608
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:50,720
situation that they've had for a long time so it's going to be real time game

609
00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:55,040
because you'd lose a lot of the civilization

610
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,280
you have your like okay i i don't know if there's not enough

611
00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:02,400
information out there yet or i just haven't been able to find it but you have your kind of perpetual main city

612
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,839
and then you can make expansions and push out and those can be destroyed but

613
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:10,319
i think your means that you can't hmm although i could definitely be wrong

614
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:15,520
someone correct me on twitter which i can't check but yes do so i will get

615
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:19,359
that later yeah

616
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:25,680
all right well that's uh that's kind of exciting speaking of extremely

617
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:29,280
crazy exciting trailers guys

618
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:33,200
check this out

619
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,720
so if any children are watching stop yes

620
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:40,160
and there's a bunch of like awards and whatnot so this is the

621
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,160
uh this is the witcher 3 trailer

622
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:51,119
by order of the emperor of nilfgaard for the murder of the wounded loading

623
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,319
okay i gotta stop this for a second did you just call it milf guard

624
00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:00,480
they're trying to protect their women

625
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,920
cannibalism you are hereby sentenced to death by

626
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:11,680
hanging okay now hold on a second

627
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:15,920
they call the place milf guard and then they're sentencing this woman

628
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:21,440
to death by hanging i mean are they guarding them

629
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:25,400
mind you she's not even that old anyway

630
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,400
dormant

631
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,319
don't meddle take the reward and let's go

632
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:47,839
knew you witches wouldn't score an imperial goal

633
00:45:54,160 --> 00:46:01,119
evil is evil lesser greater middling

634
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,119
makes no

635
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:15,920
the degree is arbitrary the definitions blurred if i'm to choose between one

636
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:23,319
evil and another i'd rather not choose it all

637
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,319
just make it quick

638
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,920
i bet she doesn't close her eyes

639
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:59,119
what are you doing killing monsters

640
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,560
all right so that was kind of the punch line there killing monsters and there's

641
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:08,800
a big and we're hopefully back so uh

642
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:11,040
anyway guys our isp says through twitter

643
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:14,800
that they are not throttling us we have no idea what else it would be

644
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:19,280
um however we'll give them the benefit of the doubt maybe they're not i don't

645
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:24,000
know but it looks an awful lot like that because as soon as we start streaming up

646
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:28,079
our internet connection goes into the toilet

647
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:31,040
and decides to it works

648
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:35,280
it works but it's very poorly very very very slow you guys saw what the symptoms

649
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:39,839
looked like so what would happen was uh ryan's voice communication with us would

650
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:44,160
get very garbled but things are getting through until it

651
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:51,200
screeches to a halt so it really feels like it whatever's being done is uh

652
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:52,400
is whatever i i really i really can't

653
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:56,720
think of anything else that would cause something like this Linus even started

654
00:47:54,240 --> 00:48:00,400
doing his laptop off 3g instead of our wi-fi so the only computer in the entire

655
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,920
house running off the internet was this desktop

656
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:09,520
so we'll have a look uh shaw is telling the people that tweet them about me

657
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:12,400
being throttled that i should direct message them and they'll get it

658
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,119
addressed so i have direct message them hopefully they'll get it addressed

659
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:19,680
hopefully we won't go down again so let's just keep this rolling so good

660
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:24,319
trailer or bad trailer the witcher 3 wild hunt trailer i think it was a

661
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,280
good trailer okay but do you even know what you're

662
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:31,119
going to drink because there was no in-game material

663
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,559
whatsoever that's why i said it depends what you're looking for okay

664
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:40,480
there's a difference between an in-game trailer and a hype trailer this was a hype trailer i personally like in-game

665
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,520
trailers more but still appreciate height trailers i just wish they would

666
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:48,079
have released an in-game trailer first cause the grand theft auto online

667
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:51,760
trailer pretty much sold that game to anyone who watched it yep whereas the

668
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:56,240
witchers because what's the difference between hype and

669
00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:00,319
selling the game like it's still selling the game though but

670
00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:04,079
okay it's drawing well okay it's drawing interest to it now everyone knows

671
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:06,640
everyone's seen this video now it's been around so much it's been tweeted around

672
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,920
so much now they're interested now hopefully they'll get off their butts and release

673
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:15,760
a gameplay trailer fast enough and that will sell people i mean here's my

674
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,040
problem too like i actually like i didn't play through a huge part of the

675
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:22,880
campaign or anything but i've got a few hours on witcher 2. i've got

676
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:27,680
i think around five or six hours on witcher one like i played through some

677
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:32,800
they didn't tuck me in at all and that trailer looked

678
00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:36,480
absolutely nothing like witcher gameplay yeah nothing what what i liked about

679
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,680
witcher 1 was the insane amount of customization

680
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:44,720
stuff and these same amount of things that you had to do depending on who you were fighting

681
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:48,480
um but didn't find the rest of it very engaging so didn't keep playing i could

682
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:53,680
tell that it was a good game i just ah i just wanted to do other things and

683
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:58,000
then witcher 2 i got to this like port city

684
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,440
yeah and was just like what do i do this

685
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:03,760
isn't sandbox enough that i can do anything i want but then it's

686
00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:07,119
not straight line enough that i have no idea what i'm supposed to be doing right

687
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,800
now which was i don't know i could have looked it up

688
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:15,920
but i was like man i'm just gonna go do other stuff

689
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:18,160
right so i don't know i guess we'll uh

690
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:22,559
we'll see but i i mean from my perspective as much as i enjoy watching

691
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:26,559
these cinematic trailers like the dead island trailer oh my goodness that was

692
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:31,119
awesome but that's the point of hype trailer like hype trailer is still interesting

693
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:34,480
it's like i still remember that yeah never was even tempted for a second to

694
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,520
buy the game especially once i heard how terrible it was yeah

695
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:43,520
you're talking about the super slo-mo one where everything's going backwards and the zombies there's the daughter and

696
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,480
she flies out the window yeah yeah outstanding so good that's one of the

697
00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:52,640
few trailers that i remember the whole thing of never bought the game never played it but the thing is they have to

698
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,200
continue it you have to roll off of a hype trailer so you release a hype

699
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:59,920
trailer then you have to release other stuff release like a little bit of gameplay

700
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:03,760
like uh battlefield they released some hype stuff and then

701
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:07,200
they released the like 14 minutes of gameplay or whatever it was okay that

702
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:10,640
was smart that was battlefield 4. so good timing would be gamescom go to

703
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,480
actually totally the gameplay that would be perfect if

704
00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:18,880
they do that that would be like a very very good transition

705
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,440
i hope they do that okay so that would probably they'll

706
00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:26,960
probably be about the right time for that cd project's an awesome company city project red is just great so i just

707
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:31,440
i hope they do it all right so let's move into our next

708
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:37,119
topic which is google blocks the Windows phone youtube

709
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:42,480
app so google is claiming that microsoft didn't follow their guidelines

710
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:46,000
their guidelines sounded pretty uh douche baggy to me

711
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:52,720
so i i actually didn't really like the verges coverage of this particular uh

712
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:56,400
this particular thing however here's the link to theverge.com google blocks

713
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:01,520
microsoft's new youtube Windows phone app so here's the basic story um google

714
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:06,880
has said we're not going to build a youtube app for Windows phone eight

715
00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:12,400
okay so microsoft's all like okay well we'll make one yeah at our own

716
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:15,280
expense just give us you know

717
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:19,359
access to the API let us do these things um so then microsoft released one that

718
00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:24,240
was actually pretty excellent there wasn't very many

719
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:26,480
errors with it until google dropped the

720
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:30,640
well hold on no micros google made them pull the first one

721
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:35,920
first okay so yeah okay so microsoft broke a couple of google's rules um so

722
00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:40,400
it allowed downloading videos and it also didn't display any ads

723
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:43,599
okay so google wasn't super thrilled about that not surprising they're all

724
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:49,200
like well no um stop that and we need you guys to

725
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:52,880
integrate support for ads and you need to remove that functionality where

726
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:56,480
people can download videos so microsoft is all like okay

727
00:52:54,319 --> 00:53:00,880
back to the drawing board we're gonna go ahead and do those things and hey we're

728
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:05,760
gonna add the functionality to upload videos while we're at it so they

729
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,119
re-released it and google has pulled it

730
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:12,800
again and they just dropped API so all these people that are

731
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:16,960
using it it just randomly stops working yeah um and what they're claiming is

732
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:23,200
that microsoft's implementation

733
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:26,559
and microsoft actually has an awesome

734
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:29,119
like awesome public letter right now to

735
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:36,880
google where they basically are like yo dawg you didn't build html5 versions

736
00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:39,839
of your youtube app for iOS or Android

737
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:47,359
in fact behind closed doors you've agreed with us that html5 is more of a

738
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:50,000
long-term goal and in the meantime we

739
00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:54,480
have to have something to give our users so that's why we did it this way um

740
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:59,760
you know i thought your whole business model was you want people using your services not

741
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:04,720
that you're going to try to differentiate your platform Android

742
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:09,040
based on allowing people to access youtube

743
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:14,079
through an app i heard slightly i heard that but in way more vague terms

744
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:18,240
which is it's interesting to hear that but was that in a different article uh

745
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:21,520
that was in microsoft's uh open letter like just microsoft's open later okay

746
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:25,280
cool because i heard just statements of google being like oh you didn't follow

747
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:28,960
our guidelines for the back end that's what i heard not

748
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:32,240
you had to make it html5 that's really interesting oh no their letter is

749
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:36,079
fantastic i absolutely love it let me just uh

750
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:41,280
let me just pull up a link yeah microsoft is hoping that a public

751
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:48,720
message detailing the industries the uh the injustices here it is they call it

752
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:48,720
the limits of google's openness

753
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:56,160
you may be one so this is from their corporate vp and deputy general counsel

754
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:59,040
litigation and antitrust microsoft wow

755
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:03,760
oh yeah no this is not like engineers like firing shots across each other's

756
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:07,680
bows this is this is the big dogs getting involved here

757
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:13,200
so this gives the whole history of what went on and also says uh google raises

758
00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:16,559
concerns about their branding the funny thing about this point is we've been

759
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:20,319
using the same branding since 2010 for an inferior youtube app now that we have

760
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:24,240
an app that gives users a fuller youtube experience all of a sudden they object

761
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:29,440
to the branding finally google cites a degraded experience since 2010 google

762
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:32,160
has been permitting a way worse one and

763
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,839
reviews of our new app are unanimous that the experience is much improved

764
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:39,920
we're committed to continuing to make adjustments if google were truly

765
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,800
concerned about a degraded experience experience

766
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:47,359
it would allow our users to access the new youtube app that they love

767
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:51,839
we think it's clear that google just doesn't want Windows phone users to have

768
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:56,559
the same experience as apple and Android users the the statement from before

769
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,440
where they're questioning google's openness

770
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,480
that's very interesting because you you know they're like 20 campaign that they

771
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,559
had going on are we dropped

772
00:56:04,799 --> 00:56:10,559
apparently we're not down i can still hear us okay so what i was

773
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:16,880
going to talk about apparently we're a podcast now that sounds good to me um

774
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,119
google's 20 thing where they they would they would let employees spend one day

775
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:24,400
of their week working on side projects whatever they wanted to do and then

776
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,960
there was the google Labs project where you could see all these little random

777
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,480
side projects and some of them turned into big things like there was a i think

778
00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:35,040
google plus started as one of the lab projects i believe i'm

779
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:40,319
not entirely sure it says that word streaming however we dropped frames

780
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:43,319
immediately so we're back potentially at

781
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:43,319
240p

782
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:52,240
we've got people asking all kinds of inane questions on twitch chat no we're

783
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:55,040
not uploading videos right now separately on the connection because we

784
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:59,680
aren't stupid and

785
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:04,240
yeah definitely not i individually went around the entire office and shut off

786
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:10,400
everything like every computer in the house is off even my laptop is tethered

787
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:13,280
to my phone at of course a much higher expense

788
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:18,799
than uh a landline which should in theory be giving me a

789
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:22,160
reasonably decent connection

790
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:23,280
all right so we're back at 240p

791
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:29,520
boom let's see here we come yeah i know right

792
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:33,920
what were we even talking about i had segued us into google

793
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,599
changing their whole idea because for the longest point in time google was

794
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:40,960
this super open company yes that shared everything with everyone tried to make

795
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:45,680
everything free who's here i had probably b-roll okay uh

796
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:49,599
shared everything with everyone try to make everything free and was just

797
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:53,359
making all this money but giving everything out which was interesting

798
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:57,200
cool and it worked and then now they seem to be back bending down the hatches

799
00:57:55,119 --> 00:58:02,559
closing everything down and just totally not being the nice open

800
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:04,480
nice and big quotes there um program or

801
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:08,079
company that we've known them for so one of the big things that notified this was

802
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:14,480
the putting more wood behind fewer aerialist comment by their new ceo yeah

803
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:16,160
ceo and getting rid of Labs and getting

804
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:20,559
potentially getting rumored to be getting rid of or already gotten rid of

805
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:24,960
the 20 program where employees had one day of their five-day work week to just

806
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,799
work on side projects right so side projects are not really a thing

807
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:33,359
anymore they're going to stay focused on the big biz stuff like self-driving cars

808
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:37,520
or whatever else in case maybe put all their employees behind it and

809
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:42,400
work five days a week on that and maybe not really help a lot of people

810
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:46,000
like microsoft to develop their own app all right so let's go into one of the

811
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:49,680
topics that i really wanted to do earlier and got cut off and i i really

812
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:54,880
don't think you guys are even gonna be able to read this i'm just gonna like

813
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:57,599
blow this up as big as possible here so

814
00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:02,319
this is the double-edged sword that is using social media to communicate with

815
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:07,760
your customers so

816
00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:09,920
bruno payne tweets at united airlines

817
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:14,640
note the misspelling there the united airlines staff at gate c8 in

818
00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:20,160
the airport whatever that is are a complete disrespect hashtag news that

819
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:25,839
just goes along so well with this uh profile picture right here they are a

820
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:28,400
complete disrespect so let's go ahead

821
00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:34,160
and move down united airlines says count your blessings at jfk they throw knives

822
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,599
to which bruno replies is that supposed to be funny

823
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:41,920
at jetblue for one takes tweets regarding their company sirius might

824
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:45,760
want to take some tips no it's a very serious warning we accidentally hired

825
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:50,319
bounty hunters to run that desk and now we can't stop them

826
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:54,240
michael tweets for those following i'm still stuck at buffalo at united

827
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:57,920
airlines thanks for trying to fight the weather you're doing well here at united

828
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:03,040
airlines we strive to not let a little thing like the fury of god prevent us

829
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:05,040
from delivering tolerable service

830
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:08,559
yes they're horrible in my experience and i avoid them if possible in our

831
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:12,240
defense it says on our website that we do not carry the equipment on domestic

832
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:16,319
flights to cater to nerds shout out for stranding my wife at ywg

833
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:19,760
for nearly 12 hours for a short flight to chicago excellent service after the

834
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:24,160
first six hours she technically belonged to us you're just lucky we met our

835
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:30,079
monthly quota so this is amazing so this is just a

836
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:34,960
completely fake parody airline account um

837
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:37,280
so this this guy found out that for

838
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:41,680
months angry customers had been tweeting it and says god has given me a great

839
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:46,079
beautiful funnel through which angry people flow in the worst possible mood

840
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:52,000
this is comedy gold i absolutely loved it

841
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,599
what is the recourse

842
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:59,920
for someone like united airlines how do they prevent this from happening

843
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:04,000
you have to go through the very few amount of tools that are even available

844
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:07,440
to you one of which is the official little check mark thing but you can't

845
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:12,799
even apply for that i can't even yes verified by twitter

846
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:17,599
is not an application process they have to reach out to you so i can't even

847
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:20,880
apply so if someone else made at linustick

848
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:24,319
for example on twitter i'm sure there's going to be a dozen of them now

849
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:28,480
but if someone made that Linus tick on twitter there's nothing i can do

850
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:33,200
to redirect people to the correct twitter account use your same photo same

851
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,760
background it's way too easy it's way too easy

852
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,880
i i find it hilarious but it's also worrisome at the same time now that you

853
01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:46,880
brought up like the possibility of Linus tick yep

854
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:49,920
so i mean this is a and i mean i think this is this is something that everyone

855
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:54,160
needs to be aware of i mean i wish twitter would take account takedowns

856
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:59,359
more seriously it is extreme like i tried to um

857
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:01,280
i tried to take over at Linus tech tips

858
01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:06,720
or at Linus sebastian or something like that where it was an obvious

859
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:09,520
uh twitter account's water and they basically said

860
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:14,000
no no nothing we can do so i don't even

861
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,720
know what united airlines is recourse would be because i mean they're

862
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,920
obviously they're united airlines so they're kind of a big deal so there

863
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:24,319
might be something we can do about it but it's not in twitter's terms of service

864
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:28,000
to deal with something like that so i think twitter needs to be aware of this

865
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:32,400
i think companies need to be aware of this and almost need to keep an eye out

866
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:36,640
proactively for companies that are impersonating them and i think customers

867
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:40,960
need to be aware of this because just because you're tweeting someone who

868
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:46,839
might look like they represent the company that mistreated you or

869
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:48,960
didn't mistreat you or whatever

870
01:02:46,839 --> 01:02:53,760
happened that doesn't mean that that's what's going on nope

871
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:57,680
and there's atlantis to it there's a outline this twit oh that doesn't even

872
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,079
look new no i don't think it is actually outlandish so it's like korean or

873
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:03,839
something awesome um but yeah like

874
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,760
there's not a lot they can do and even okay if they get the account closed look

875
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,640
how much damage has been done already and then there's probably going to be

876
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,839
more i don't know were we actually online

877
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:18,079
when we talked about the call of duty ghosts trailer i have no idea i don't

878
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:22,079
know anymore either i think we were

879
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:25,680
all right so i'm going to load up this other article here this is pretty crazy

880
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:30,180
so this is like crazy as balls

881
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,319
a high-end flip phone

882
01:03:32,319 --> 01:03:37,920
go ahead so this was posted by no treble on the forum the original sources end

883
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:42,640
gadget uh let me find my notes here real quick

884
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:47,839
so it features a micro sd slot two sim cards which is

885
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:51,200
cool maybe it's going to be destined for china or maybe it'll be somewhere else

886
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:57,039
entirely it's it's Android 4.1

887
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,559
bound on a 1.2 gigahertz quad-core CPU

888
01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:03,119
and the outer screen has three touchscreen buttons on it it's it's a

889
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:07,520
flip phone even the article that he links or his article i think actually

890
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:13,760
not even the article that he likes yeah no his his post is asking is this

891
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:18,160
regression or progression like are we going backwards are we going forwards

892
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,799
like it's not very clear on this one all right

893
01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:26,079
okay so hold on so two three and a half 3.3 inch 320 by

894
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:30,319
480 touch displays which is actually not a bad pixel density nope and there so

895
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,760
there's one when it's closed which is kind of weird for a flip phone and then

896
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:38,240
there's one when it's open so you have access to the full keyboard

897
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:42,000
5 megapixel rear camera so it's not great but not terrible it's certainly

898
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,760
not 14 megapixel okay so it's not a high end phone but it's certainly much higher

899
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:51,119
end than other flip phones now i'm gonna be honest with you guys i can probably

900
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,960
type as quickly on a number pad like a

901
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:57,200
tactile number pad as i can on a touchscreen keyboard

902
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,480
predictive text got a lot better after the initial sort

903
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,559
of like okay well i press it three times for o

904
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,960
and yeah two times for l yeah i can't remember what it's called but there's

905
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:12,319
that one one predictive text algorithm that everyone started using right before

906
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:19,359
smartphones came out q9 t9 yeah t9 pretty good it's pretty darn good like

907
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:21,039
it's it's pretty fast yeah and um

908
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:24,720
i mean there's something to be said for tactile buttons particularly old people

909
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:29,200
my dad no interest in a smartphone no interest

910
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:34,079
and when his phone dies he's gonna have to buy something so what does he buy

911
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:39,839
so there you go the hennessy quad-core CPU you know wi-fi bluetooth

912
01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:44,240
gps all that stuff that you'd expect and uh this is my my most interesting

913
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:49,760
question is the exact same question as the guy that posted on our forum is is

914
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:53,039
this really going forwards

915
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,720
like or did samsung just go

916
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:59,599
you know what though uh when we were over in taiwan what did you notice

917
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,720
everyone uses a flip everyone needs a flip on this very good point and maybe

918
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:07,680
it's a cost thing maybe it's not i mean maybe the positioning here is premium

919
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:11,440
flip is this baby's first smartphone so to speak right

920
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,960
right that actually kind of makes it look as a transitional device this might

921
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:18,960
be the smartest thing they've done this year because oh well um

922
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:23,920
mozilla is trying to do kind of the same thing very cheap but smartphone

923
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,799
and you know what maybe this is a response to that maybe

924
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:30,640
this is just them observing the market themselves it's not a terrible idea it's

925
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:36,160
just kind of weird it's very weird i like it i do too i've

926
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:41,119
changed my mind since we started talking about this it's uh i still don't know if

927
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:46,480
see a big part of the problem is that word north america yes i think it'll do

928
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:50,319
a lot better kind of everywhere else yeah i mean

929
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:54,319
here the expectation is for you know a couple hundred bucks

930
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:58,400
so i can save up you know my month of you know spared money this month and i

931
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,760
can get a phone on contract that's top of the freaking line not even sometimes

932
01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:06,240
sometimes you get top line phones for zero dollars like whereas you look at

933
01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:10,319
other markets like uh south america is a great example where they'll look at

934
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:13,680
something like you know an iphone 5 and just be like oh my gosh do you have any

935
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:19,280
idea how much that but not only do they make less money but because of the import taxes and all

936
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:23,760
of the tariffs that exist down there you're paying well over a thousand

937
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:26,480
dollars up front there's a contract and then there's blah

938
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:32,799
blah blah blah and you have to pay so much more because you're paying for the extra features so the used phone market

939
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,640
there is huge yeah um and then something like this could be uh could be

940
01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:39,839
potentially a big deal there yeah it's interesting

941
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:44,079
um something to jump into which isn't necessarily directly related at all but

942
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:48,480
i did want to talk about is gee squad stealing naked photos again and leaking

943
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,440
them online again all right did we get to see the naked

944
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:56,480
photos here i kind of hope not yeah me too

945
01:07:54,400 --> 01:08:01,280
are they of geek squad technicians no because then i

946
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:03,119
geek squad should do a calendar a sexy

947
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:07,599
calendar that would actually probably do pretty well that would be a great pr

948
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,760
stunt that's really not a bad idea

949
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:14,000
lioness media group should do a sexy challenge

950
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,000
it would just be all you

951
01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:23,080
just a motherboard yeah

952
01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:23,080
wearing nothing but an oculus rift

953
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:31,040
oh no oh of all the terrible things that i could

954
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:33,279
have come up with right now so let's go uh let's go back to that actually okay

955
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:37,359
so they they allegedly let's just throw

956
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:42,000
that out there allegedly although they have been hit with this before yeah allegedly

957
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:47,279
we're not we're not saying anything is for sure yeah so

958
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:50,159
this lady had her nude photos posted online

959
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:54,640
and she had never posted them online okay so she

960
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:59,040
says these photos were art not selfies she snapped to send to a lover she never

961
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:03,440
posted them on any social media explained her attorney claiming that his

962
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:08,799
client kept them only for reference or professional use for art

963
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:14,159
hmm the art thing is kind of weird i don't really care about that at all you stole

964
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:18,319
someone's digital properly which was not good well that's just what they're

965
01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:21,440
saying is the evidence that it was in fact a best buy employee

966
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:26,080
that took the photos as opposed to her just

967
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:30,560
you know leaking them on right

968
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:32,480
okay 4chan is because it's art yes

969
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:35,839
because it was art which is exactly why she kept them for herself and never

970
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:39,600
actually posted them anywhere because one of the obvious sort of rebuttals

971
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,880
might be well if you had all these naked pictures of yourself on your computer

972
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:46,239
how can we prove how can you prove that you never sent them to anyone right so

973
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:50,239
that's the argument here so it may or may not be true but

974
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:54,560
um they they have had to settle these in

975
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,199
the past so

976
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:02,159
yeah i wanted to segue from this into funny

977
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:05,679
stories from back when i was in grade 10 and worked at key squad okay let's hear

978
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:10,560
it hit us with it though the worst of which

979
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:14,480
was okay i've got two really funny ones actually one lady had us repair her

980
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:19,120
laptop and then when she came to pick it up she came with this super jacked dude

981
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:21,840
and the dude was way more interested i haven't told you either of these stories

982
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:25,040
the dude was way more interested in whether or not the laptop's webcam was

983
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:29,440
working and mike was working than anything else and we were like

984
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:32,960
okay i guess we can try it like it was

985
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:38,640
riddled with viruses that's what i fixed i wasn't trying out their webcam so

986
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:42,400
so at the desk i'm like here try it so he loads up some weird looking

987
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,760
program and there's like a chat box on the side and i'm not really paying

988
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:48,480
attention and then me and my buddy are standing there with him and he's

989
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,840
slightly off to the side and we're standing in front of the laptop trying

990
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:56,000
to check if it works and then all of a sudden in the chat box i see oh my god

991
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:58,719
you work at best buy oh what is this what is this what is

992
01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:03,239
this and then i read the chat box and it's like slursler slayerslayer.com

993
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:10,960
so we were on a like cam website me and

994
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:13,520
my buddy nice when i was in grade 10-ish

995
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:17,120
did you get paid another bad one was you were underage so

996
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,520
they guess oh i didn't even think about that

997
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:26,320
in trouble um i was fully wearing clothes but i don't know uh we had

998
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:29,520
converted from being in like a back hall to having a more open office style where

999
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:33,199
people could see through the window into all the computers right and so you plug

1000
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:37,120
in computers and you work on them for a bit and then you have to go help people at the desk so people can see through

1001
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,679
the window thing right

1002
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:46,159
and people have a tendency to set their screen savers to their my pictures

1003
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,159
folder

1004
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:53,360
so so many times there would just be porn streaming in the background

1005
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:58,159
and we wouldn't figure it out because there's often just one or two of us working we'd often just both be at the

1006
01:11:56,239 --> 01:12:03,520
desk oh sure maybe shaw's calling okay so i

1007
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:10,400
think the the conclusion that we can draw here is that as much as um

1008
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:12,880
best buy can have whatever policies they have in place

1009
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:17,600
there's not really a whole lot they can do about deviant employees so

1010
01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:22,000
you know when people have unfettered access to other people's computers if

1011
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:25,040
they're bad people they might snoop around on the hard drive and the other

1012
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:30,320
thing that there's nothing that they can do about is sheer customer stupidity

1013
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:35,280
and let's face it if you're bringing your computer to best buy to be fixed

1014
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:39,600
you might not necessarily be the most technically apt kind of person in fact

1015
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:43,520
the article that we link to in the live stream doc which will be available under

1016
01:12:41,679 --> 01:12:47,280
the video description pointed out

1017
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:51,199
that um you know well they should have had these pictures in an encrypted

1018
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:54,480
folder preferably on another drive a blah blah blah et cetera et cetera et

1019
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:58,880
cetera but you know

1020
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:02,719
even not you don't necessarily have to be a complete [ __ ] when it comes to

1021
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:08,080
computers to not know how to do that stuff so there's there's a whole bunch

1022
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:12,800
of factors that are going on here and i think it's a little bit more complicated

1023
01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:17,760
necessarily than you know one individual's lawsuit might

1024
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:19,360
be so allegedly sort of accused blah

1025
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:23,280
blah blah all of that stuff we don't know what happened here but there's

1026
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:28,239
certainly potential for things to happen as slick was saying that are not

1027
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:31,199
necessarily the fault of the employees

1028
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:36,000
so just kind of throwing that out there so i would like to take this opportunity

1029
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:40,080
to talk a little bit about our new sponsor for the WAN Show so i'm gonna go

1030
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:44,840
ahead and fire this up so speaking of people who aren't necessarily the most

1031
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:49,120
technically inclined in the world squarespace.com they are

1032
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:53,600
officially powering the WAN Show as of supposed to

1033
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:57,760
be last week but we had some stream issues and we ended up sort of not being

1034
01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:01,840
able to do our mid-roll integration for them so we saved it until this week but

1035
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:05,760
what squarespace.com allows you to do if you're not familiar with it already is

1036
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:10,560
to create a website to display your web store photography portfolio although if

1037
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:15,280
you want to go ahead and accuse best buy of you know letting

1038
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:18,480
your portfolio uh letting other customers have access

1039
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:24,159
to your portfolio or whatever the case may be then i wouldn't recommend putting it on squarespace because the idea is

1040
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:28,480
that it would be publicly visible or to you can create a personal blog so

1041
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:35,600
basically it's kind of like geocities but updated for 2013. so the designs are

1042
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:37,199
not ugly uh the designs have evolved in

1043
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:42,000
general on the web quite a bit since then but squarespace has over 20

1044
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:45,360
customizable profiles and templates that you can go ahead and tinker around with

1045
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:49,440
to your heart's content so you sign up for a free trial which doesn't

1046
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:52,480
require a credit card whatsoever and it actually gives you some suggestions

1047
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:56,159
depending what you want to do so if you want to create an online store it'll say

1048
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:59,199
okay well these ones are pretty optimal for that or if you wanted to create a

1049
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:03,120
blog it'll say these ones are pretty optimal for that and there's a ton of

1050
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:06,159
customization that you can do so you can change fonts you can change locations

1051
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:11,679
you can add a bunch of navigation at the top they've got 24 7 tech supports and

1052
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:15,760
our audience will probably also like that in addition to the drag and drop

1053
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:18,800
interface that allows you to kind of go oh well okay i'm going to merchandise an

1054
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:23,520
item just kind of drag and drop a picture in there at a price at a on sale

1055
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:28,239
price and then it's pretty much ready to go you can actually use the advanced tab

1056
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:33,040
or the developer mode tab to dink around with the css and html so it's not just

1057
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:37,520
for non-techies it starts at eight dollars a month and includes scalable

1058
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:42,080
hosting if traffic turns out to be much better than you expected and if you use

1059
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:45,440
offer code Linus 8 you can save 10 on your first purchase with a new account

1060
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:49,679
so thanks squarespace for your support of the WAN Show and we're really excited

1061
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:54,719
to keep working with you guys because so far my mom's actually been trying to get

1062
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:58,960
a website going on it and they've been pretty easy to use she's actually at the

1063
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:05,120
cabin right now so she hasn't worked on it in the last uh i think five days but

1064
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,640
i am outright refusing to help her and

1065
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:10,640
i'm telling her that i want her to go through squarespace's tech support

1066
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:16,159
because to me that is the ultimate acid test if they can handle her they can

1067
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:20,400
handle pretty much anything because her question was because when you buy a year

1068
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:24,080
they throw in a domain for free so her question was what is a domain so

1069
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:29,040
that should give you some idea of my mom's sort of technical level when it

1070
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:35,760
comes to the interwebs and all of those related things so speaking of the

1071
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:38,560
interwebs hmm cisco the company that

1072
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:44,480
powers a whole lot of the interwebs slashed 4 000 staff

1073
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:48,320
in spite of turning oh boy

1074
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:53,120
in spite of recording record results for the quarter so it really sort of raises

1075
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:57,440
the question what is going on over there so they recently shed linksys for not

1076
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,920
being being profitable enough not contributing enough to their bottom line

1077
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:04,719
or um basically looking bad on their balance

1078
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:10,480
sheet they have wow they slashed 4 000 jobs i mean

1079
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:14,719
think about that you went to high school with probably anywhere from a couple

1080
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:19,280
hundred to 500 people depending on the size of your high school so that's about

1081
01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:24,000
like them slashing the your entire graduating class times

1082
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:27,760
probably anywhere from about eight to twenty

1083
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:31,360
unbelievable so what do they have to say about this

1084
01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:35,440
in the past two years we have managed the business with discipline and focus

1085
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:39,760
to execute on the portfolio investments and operational efficiency opportunities

1086
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:43,679
that we see in fiscal year 2014 we are rebalancing our resources with a

1087
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:47,440
workforce reduction which will impact five percent

1088
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:52,320
of our global workforce now as someone who runs their own business these days i

1089
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:56,960
can definitely sympathize with the seemingly uncontrollable cost that is

1090
01:17:54,719 --> 01:18:01,840
human resources something that a lot of people don't know is that

1091
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:06,560
the amount that you get on your paycheck in your bank account so yes uncle sam or

1092
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:11,679
you know mr harper or whoever it is that

1093
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:16,080
represents your tax man in your country is definitely taking a cut but there's

1094
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:20,400
also a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes so let's say theoretically i

1095
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:24,960
had an employee at Linus media group that cost that's that's wage was ten

1096
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:29,600
dollars an hour i'm paying anywhere from around 12 and a half to 13 and a half

1097
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:33,280
dollars an hour and we don't even have medical plan yet remember this is canada

1098
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:39,600
so when we don't have a medical plan that doesn't mean you're completely boned it just means that you don't have

1099
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:44,320
extended medical like dental for example it's something we're working on but the

1100
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:49,520
actual cost is is this double digit percentages higher

1101
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:53,440
than the employee even knows about so i can definitely relate to that but on the

1102
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:57,040
other hand i take a bit of a different philosophy i think and hopefully slick

1103
01:18:55,199 --> 01:19:01,600
can back me up on this where i feel like if Linus media group

1104
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:05,840
is doing well and we're making money the people that got us there should be

1105
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,960
getting a reward as opposed to getting their jobs cut or getting their salaries

1106
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:13,360
cut i'm assuming you're talking about cisco yeah i'm talking about the cisco

1107
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:17,040
thing i mean i'm going to be perfectly blunt with the viewers right now i

1108
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:21,199
haven't given myself a raise since we started Linus media group however i have

1109
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:27,040
done some raises and some bonuses

1110
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:29,280
so there you go i mean that's not to say

1111
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:32,960
that you know i'm gonna pay everyone you know 250 000 a year just for showing up

1112
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:37,360
to work they're going to have to make sure that the stream is ready to go on time when i

1113
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:41,199
come back from ncix if they want something like that to happen

1114
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:45,600
i don't take full responsibility for that um

1115
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:50,560
and definitely our isp issues today haven't helped but anyway the point is i

1116
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,600
really don't like this at all

1117
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:57,600
and maybe it's a good thing that belkin owns linksys now because i've got some

1118
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,480
pretty good bros over at linksys that i don't want to lose their jobs so it's

1119
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:04,320
like five percent of the company got dropped or something i don't know how much you've talked about it and with

1120
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:07,760
that said if you've worked at a bigger company you probably know that one out

1121
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:11,760
of every 20 people there at least is a complete idiot

1122
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:15,440
so maybe that was the kind of layoffs maybe but but if you've worked at a big

1123
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:19,440
company that's gone through layoffs you probably know that it's not always that

1124
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:23,679
way that way and a lot of times it becomes friendships instead of actual

1125
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:27,199
productivity friendships and seniority and

1126
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:31,199
just goofy stuff that's not actually to do with competence i know really good

1127
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:34,800
people who have gotten laid off when i had no complete morons at the same

1128
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:37,840
company that for whatever reason still have their jobs

1129
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:42,480
so um so we're not getting any help from

1130
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:45,840
them right now oh after the stream oh

1131
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:51,679
refuse okay do anything until i reset my modem okay yeah i guess that makes sense okay well

1132
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:55,280
we don't have really have too much left anyway uh lots of rumors about the

1133
01:20:54,000 --> 01:21:02,080
upcoming whatever it is they're gonna call it let's just call it uh volcanic islands

1134
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:07,040
so AMD's new graphics cards potentially that maybe

1135
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,840
are coming and i can't find any link in the dock for it

1136
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:16,239
up a little bit way down a little tiny bit there it is all right it's one of

1137
01:21:14,719 --> 01:21:19,600
those stupid ones where the header is on a different line than the uh

1138
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:24,080
so potential pricing has potentially been

1139
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:29,120
revealed so according to fudzilla this was posted by emma long on the Linus

1140
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:32,000
tech tips forum the hd 9970 will cost

1141
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:36,320
less than 600 they speculate that it will cost between

1142
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:40,640
549 and 5.99 that's really really aggressive that

1143
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:43,920
sounds about right for a high-end GPU launch yeah but it's aggressive compared

1144
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:47,679
to what is on the other team compared to what's available now because NVIDIA just

1145
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:52,239
refreshed they're not going to be launching maxwell

1146
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:55,520
like tomorrow yeah so they're not necessarily going to have a response AMD

1147
01:21:54,159 --> 01:22:00,159
could have done what NVIDIA did because the rumored

1148
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:05,600
performance of the potentially alleged 9970 is rumored to be around five

1149
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:09,679
percent better than a titan so they could have come in at a thousand

1150
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:13,840
dollars or even 899.99 and undercut titan but it looks like

1151
01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:18,800
what AMD wants to do is put pressure on NVIDIA to drop the price of titan

1152
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:22,880
which is cool which is great i'd like a cheap titan because we're gonna see

1153
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:26,800
never settle forever is now running so you have your choice of i think it's

1154
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:31,520
eight games right now and they're pretty pretty high end titles if you buy a top

1155
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:37,040
tier card you get three games if you buy a 7 800 series right now you get two

1156
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:38,560
games and if you buy a 7770 or 7790 you

1157
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:42,480
get one game and you get to pick whatever you want and get this i didn't

1158
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:45,600
even know about this till today but if you don't like any of the games on never

1159
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:50,960
settle forever right now or you already have them you can hold on to your ticket

1160
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:55,199
until december 31st at least and hold out for

1161
01:22:52,400 --> 01:23:00,639
upcoming games for possible other games wow that's cool yeah so beast they are

1162
01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:04,719
really really putting the pressure on with the new drivers upcoming

1163
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:10,560
potentially alleged gpus and upcoming potentially alleged game titles yeah

1164
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:12,239
because uh yeah i mean i've seen i can't

1165
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:16,719
comment on the upcoming game titles unfortunately because i have seen a deck

1166
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:22,000
and i do know what it is hold on to your pants guys

1167
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:26,159
hold on to yours i haven't seen this i'm excited so yeah that's uh that's

1168
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:33,199
incredibly exciting have you talked about baby monitors no

1169
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:34,960
wow guys secure your freaking wi-fi

1170
01:23:33,199 --> 01:23:40,760
do it now this was posted by uh ion basa on the

1171
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:47,199
forum and this was an article from cnet.com and there's more on abc go

1172
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:49,120
slick so some guy hacked into some other

1173
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:53,760
guy's router accessed their network-enabled baby monitor and started

1174
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:59,520
shouting through it they heard a voice calling his daughter an effing [ __ ] and

1175
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:03,199
telling her to wake up you little thing

1176
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:06,400
the hacker began shouting at his at her parents once they came into the room to

1177
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:10,800
try and figure out what was going on uh called them called the man a stupid

1178
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:13,840
[ __ ] and his wife a b word and in front of their two-year-old

1179
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:18,080
daughter and they're not even sure this hadn't happened already at least once

1180
01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:22,400
so oh man like

1181
01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:26,639
if you know anyone that uses network-enabled baby monitors you're a

1182
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:32,159
tech guy make sure that router's secure yeah we're we're charging you to be

1183
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:36,000
personally responsible for protecting your friends and family and making sure

1184
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:40,480
that this kind of because that is such a huge invasion of privacy it's ridiculous

1185
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:45,120
that's that's just not only does he has access to the video but he's able to

1186
01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:48,880
talk to them like that's yeah that's not cool go secure

1187
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:55,040
your wi-fi right now if you haven't done it moving into our next topic xbox one

1188
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:58,000
claims it can do 4k gaming so this was

1189
01:24:55,040 --> 01:25:02,719
posted on the forum by the bloody toxic here we go

1190
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:07,600
i i just i wonder like uh the amount of hardware it takes to

1191
01:25:04,639 --> 01:25:11,840
run 4k well on a computer like okay what frame rates is this running at

1192
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:16,800
here's the quote there's no hardware restriction there at all so in theory

1193
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:21,600
the xbox one could support 2k or perhaps even 4k gaming if there's content for it

1194
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:27,280
at those resolutions the source is forbes and i think the uh the original

1195
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:30,800
poster of this of this uh link on our forum has some pretty good points here

1196
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:38,960
i have two main reasons why this is just stupid and why it's basically just a lie

1197
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:43,040
this is uh quoting quoting the bloody toxic one

1198
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:47,280
two dual titans in 4k barely are able to throw 60 FPS at a screen with medium

1199
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:53,760
settings on modern games we're not even talking next gen games number two the

1200
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:57,040
xbox one has one 1.4 HDMI output which

1201
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:59,199
means 4k is going to be at 30 hertz

1202
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:02,000
however i think the first one is probably the most valid because there

1203
01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:06,800
was no way you were going to be pushing more than 30 FPS

1204
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:11,600
anyway no so yeah why i mean

1205
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:14,480
they've had a pretty good run of good press going lately and the connect thing

1206
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:21,600
i don't know we haven't talked about that yet so connect is no longer required to run

1207
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:25,280
which is really good like good job and then you do this like what are you

1208
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:31,199
saying you're just confusing people it's not true you're just confusing people

1209
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:34,880
xbox one is not suitable for 4k gaming

1210
01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:37,679
mark my words 4k gaming is coming to pc

1211
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:41,920
now 4k gaming is not coming to console for a very very long time well at least

1212
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:45,120
10 years unless they have some crazy add-on pack or something

1213
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:49,600
unless they have something well hold on a second because it wouldn't be the first time

1214
01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:53,679
that ever happened i know yeah sega genesis yep so it could happen but it's

1215
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:58,480
going to have to be something that you slap on the console or it's going to be a revision 2 of the console or something

1216
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:01,520
like that it's i mean how much do you miss cartridges

1217
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:05,440
at this point star fox oh it's like a completely

1218
01:27:03,679 --> 01:27:11,120
different thing let's just put more supplemental hardware on the game

1219
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:15,520
these are awesome i hate discs i never liked this floppies were cool

1220
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:18,639
cartridges were cool discs suck this one's always

1221
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:24,320
but you're too young to ever have actually had a situation where you had a report

1222
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:27,440
that you had to print out at school only to discover that your floppy disk broke

1223
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:31,440
or just was i actually did have to do that

1224
01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:34,400
but it was such a low grade that i don't think it mattered they were so

1225
01:27:32,719 --> 01:27:38,800
unreliable they were terrible but they were cool the first time i got a usb

1226
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:42,080
thumb drive it was an eight meg drive and it was the best thing that ever

1227
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:45,520
happened yeah that was one of my favorite technology

1228
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:49,920
things that i ever owned i'm not saying they were good i'm saying they were cool

1229
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:55,040
i liked the idea of floppy i don't know it's ah

1230
01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:58,320
speaking of discs um where's my topic

1231
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,320
for this i don't remember where it is

1232
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:06,239
some game that i wanted to buy payday 2. payday 2 does not have a physical copy

1233
01:28:04,719 --> 01:28:09,120
i think there might be like a physical crazy collector's edition or something

1234
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:13,840
that's insanely expensive you know what who cares move on no

1235
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:17,360
i disagree with you i think physical copies are the stupidest thing ever

1236
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:21,600
they're dead oh but then you run into things like

1237
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:25,920
what if steam drops support what if something drops support like old

1238
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:30,960
school games i can still play red alert okay if red alert was a game running on

1239
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:34,800
a service back then that wouldn't exist anymore okay back up your steam files

1240
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:38,239
because valve's set out right that they'll find a way for

1241
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:41,040
titles purchased through steam to be still playable if they ever go

1242
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:46,560
completely insolvent or shut down the service back up all your steam files how many

1243
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:50,320
can you actually ask that of everyone i don't think it's that unreasonable if

1244
01:28:48,639 --> 01:28:56,560
you can ask someone to buy a physical copy of a disk which is like

1245
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:59,199
worth what 20 cents who cares then is it

1246
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:04,960
that unreasonable to say okay okay okay here is it more work to burn a disk than

1247
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:07,760
it is to go to a freaking store to buy a game but do you have right to burn that

1248
01:29:06,639 --> 01:29:12,560
disk to copy steam files to a disk do you

1249
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:15,760
yeah sure you can backup steam files all day long they even have a built-in

1250
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:20,080
backup feature yeah if you can back it up to a folder you can back it up to it

1251
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,960
i still personally like physical having something physical and i still wish it

1252
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:27,440
was a cartridge for console games i think that we should

1253
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:33,920
probably all be able to agree that when it comes to movies video games and women

1254
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:33,920
digital is just as good as physical

1255
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:41,040
of course you had to drop that i don't think so i still disagree i still like

1256
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,860
having something physical okay i'll give you movies

1257
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,360
not women

1258
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:50,639
dude if i could give you women that would be

1259
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:54,480
a whole other business media group is running

1260
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:57,600
we have to put the significant others thing on there it might not necessarily

1261
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:04,239
apply to everyone um animated pngs ah yes animated pngs so

1262
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:07,840
the gif or it's pronounced jeff

1263
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:15,840
the days may be numbered for that guy right there here it is there's a

1264
01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:21,360
kickstarter let us animate png so this was posted by

1265
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:24,719
ghost on the forum ghost you're awesome by the way you were kind of annoying in

1266
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:27,920
the early days of the forum but we both really like you now

1267
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:33,360
you're awesome dude kind of annoying because he told every told us everything

1268
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:35,199
was broken well yeah when it was right

1269
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:38,960
i think he even stopped coming to the forum at some point he came back when we

1270
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:43,920
fixed it i'm glad he came back because i like him um anyways so you can view a

1271
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:48,639
demo of the difference between a gif why don't we play it you have to

1272
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:52,000
have firefox oh that video sure yeah let's play video everything welcome to

1273
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:56,159
the apingasm animated png tools and standardization project that sounds like

1274
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:59,920
a total neckbeard is the animated png assembler and it is currently the only

1275
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:04,719
tool that fully supports creating animated pngs apngs like anime goals

1276
01:31:02,719 --> 01:31:08,719
will have a java native version and a coffeescript and javascript native

1277
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:13,199
version so it can be used in different places further goals include svg and smile

1278
01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:18,400
conversion and a full animation editor for svg and

1279
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:21,280
smile for more information please see the project description

1280
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:26,000
so that's pretty cool hey stop i'm sorry

1281
01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:30,719
i'm trying i'm trying to stop the thing i'm not having success here

1282
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:33,679
i think that's awesome it is awesome i like everything about it i'm surprised

1283
01:31:32,239 --> 01:31:38,320
it got funded i and it got funded fast yeah so they

1284
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:42,560
have beat their five thousand dollar goal in only eight days

1285
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:47,280
which is outstanding that's awesome um in fact quite a few backers one backer

1286
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:53,120
pledged 2 500 so there was a single backer that's like yup here we go so

1287
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:56,320
what does he get ports of our base ap g libraries and tools for the language

1288
01:31:54,639 --> 01:32:01,600
platform of your choice you and your company will be fully accredited

1289
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:06,080
cool so um

1290
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:13,080
it it's better yeah it's time in like every way i'm stoked that's cool so

1291
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:13,080
4chan can be in hd now

1292
01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:22,960
no just everything half the things that are posted on there are animated gifs as

1293
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:27,920
far as i can tell so so now it can like look better

1294
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:35,040
or we can even we can have even higher resolution disgusting animated stuff on

1295
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:35,040
like the armpit of the internet

1296
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:40,880
i just it looks a lot better it takes less data and like the most ridiculous

1297
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:45,920
thing with gifs is how long they take to load

1298
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:48,480
right now to say gif um because they just take forever to load

1299
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:53,360
so i don't know everything is better about this my favorite thing is that it just takes less i'm excited about

1300
01:32:51,440 --> 01:32:56,239
transparency support that's cool that's really cool that's definitely cool i

1301
01:32:54,719 --> 01:33:00,639
mean that's something that would be uh that would be great for even things like

1302
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:03,840
wancho if we could have like an animated thing that supports alpha channels

1303
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:08,639
that's transparent so we could have like moving junk um i mean we're gonna go

1304
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:11,440
back to like xsplit's gonna have to you know

1305
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:16,239
step things up a little bit too but we're gonna have to go back to like 90s

1306
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,239
level internet web pages

1307
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:24,159
2002 a little bit past 90s speaking of going back in time check

1308
01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:30,199
this out so the upcoming oh oh wow the page has been pulled down okay well at

1309
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:31,840
any rate um the upcoming ivy bridge e

1310
01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:37,440
4670k has been delidded by one of the

1311
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:38,639
overclockers over on coolaller.com and

1312
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:43,760
basically they've discovered that the ihs is

1313
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:48,480
soldered down to the CPU core this does a couple of things number one is it

1314
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:53,120
makes it um harder to remove yeah he destroyed his chip doing that yep number

1315
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:57,760
two is it de-incentivizes people to remove the bloody thing because you're

1316
01:33:55,199 --> 01:34:02,080
going to get better thermal performance by having the dye soldered to the top of

1317
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:06,719
the integrated heat spreader versus having a thermal compound in there

1318
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:11,520
it also means that there won't be as much inconsistency because having a

1319
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:16,400
solid metal layer means no air pockets can get stuck and the ihs won't be as

1320
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:21,360
prone to being sort of not not attached in one

1321
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:25,520
spot or whatever else the case may be so that's great

1322
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:31,440
i guess what Intel's saying is when it comes to our server grade products we do

1323
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:33,440
actually know that solder is better

1324
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:37,440
okay so they do know deep down they do know i'm happy to see this kind of sad

1325
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:40,560
for the dude that lost his chip right away yeah he probably has a half a dozen

1326
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:44,880
of them like those those extreme overclocker guys they get like a tray of

1327
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:47,920
cpus pre-launch and do a bunch of benching and all that kind of stuff

1328
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:52,000
yeah yeah i'm not too worried about him yeah that's awesome stoked to see that

1329
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:57,520
all right well bitfenix prodigy yeah yeah this is

1330
01:34:54,719 --> 01:35:02,880
exciting so one of the things that was noticed by the reviewers and enthusiast

1331
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:06,080
community at large this was posed by sueli

1332
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:11,360
or however you pronounce that located in belgium so that's jackie yeah

1333
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:14,400
oh i love that guy he's awesome uh anyway

1334
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:17,679
so there's a product guided tour apparently apparently bitfenix thinks

1335
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:22,960
they can do them better than us instead of having us do their product

1336
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:25,520
tours actually i just uh i just got off

1337
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:28,159
an email thread with bitfenix yesterday where we were going back and forth

1338
01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:31,280
pretty good we are going to be getting samples of pretty much every upcoming

1339
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:35,199
bitfenix thing so we will be bringing you guys more bitfenix videos so that's

1340
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:38,880
a new development that i don't think slick knew about yet

1341
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:42,480
but the the thing that people noticed about the prodigy was that it wasn't

1342
01:35:40,639 --> 01:35:46,800
that small it was about the size of matx cases but

1343
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:50,159
took an itx motherboard in fact silverstone

1344
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:55,120
went like full like you know

1345
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:59,600
shots fired mode against uh bitfenix by basically saying well if you look at the

1346
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:02,400
actual volume of the case um

1347
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:07,440
we have like matx cases that are smaller than

1348
01:36:04,639 --> 01:36:09,920
this that like fit hardware pretty well too

1349
01:36:08,639 --> 01:36:14,960
so what they've done is they have completely rearranged the interior in

1350
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:19,520
order to accommodate an matx board so they no longer have the flat mounting

1351
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:22,800
idea that they had for the itx board it's again a vertically mounted

1352
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:26,400
motherboard okay i'm gonna just like zoom in as far as i possibly can here

1353
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:30,080
240p yeah yeah

1354
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:35,600
all right okay so there you go you kind of see it now so here's where the motherboard is

1355
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:40,639
it's an upside down motherboard arrangement drives go i think here

1356
01:36:38,639 --> 01:36:44,960
and then uh it supports liquid cooling in the back

1357
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:45,920
with a yeah one radiator yeah

1358
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:49,600
so there's yeah there's less support like one cool

1359
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:53,840
thing that we saw in the prodigy before was the insane water cooling builds yes

1360
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:56,480
where people would fit all the radiators and there will be less of that there

1361
01:36:54,880 --> 01:37:01,520
will be less of that but it's more practical case yeah so

1362
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:04,560
good work be it phoenix love it and i hope they keep around the original

1363
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:09,199
prodigy i hope they just have two different products yes which i think they're doing yeah yeah okay that is

1364
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:12,080
confirmed we talked to them about it at computex when i i covered their booth

1365
01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:17,280
yeah yeah i have seen this already the layout is actually pretty smart it

1366
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:20,400
looks good cool looks good cool all right

1367
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:23,760
unless you have anything else we ought to do we got to do the

1368
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:28,080
videos of the week yes we've got some pretty epic ones that i know you've seen

1369
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:32,480
at least one of all right he did finish on time which i was happy about

1370
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:38,320
all right build logs of the week let's go ahead and download this mother on 3g

1371
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:43,360
yeah i know right like my data bill just like whatever

1372
01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:48,960
the good news is i have lots of oh i'm downloading two instances of it right

1373
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,960
now no stop cancel one

1374
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:56,480
don't you hate that when you have two instances coming down and you cancel the one that's more complete yeah

1375
01:37:55,119 --> 01:38:01,600
it's like just fml moments or like when you commit

1376
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:06,320
something to the printer queue and then because printers are apparently still

1377
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:10,000
stuck in the 80s you can never have you ever successfully canceled a print job

1378
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:12,960
never i've only ever been able to do it physically on the printer and it just

1379
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:15,600
cancels everything that usually doesn't even work for me

1380
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:21,199
it's the it i do somewhat okay with that there was

1381
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:26,000
one time when i really had to cancel it like it was like 60 pages and what i had

1382
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:29,920
to do was i unplugged the printer and then just replugged it in sometimes even

1383
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:33,119
when you do that i'll just re-grab the job and keep going it was an old printer

1384
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:40,239
so it didn't it wasn't that advanced okay cool all right so moving right along guys

1385
01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:42,159
here project cobalt by jordan mack this

1386
01:38:40,239 --> 01:38:47,040
one boom it's just awesome holy crap like i wish

1387
01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:51,679
we could show this in its hd glory where's 240p i'm sorry jordan mack oh

1388
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:55,360
man okay all of these guys like we're going

1389
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:59,360
to show pictures but check it on the freaking forum yeah um build log section

1390
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:03,679
of the forum check the build vlogs of the week thread isn't this thing

1391
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:07,679
beautiful i actually tweeted a picture of this mid-plate earlier this week

1392
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:10,960
because i was just blown away he's gonna be doing a comprehensive guide on how to

1393
01:39:09,679 --> 01:39:15,600
make them and he's gonna be posting it in our guide section on the forum jordan

1394
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:19,520
you win i'm probably gonna make one i don't even know what you win it's so

1395
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:23,679
cool you win seven of them though it's just seven

1396
01:39:21,199 --> 01:39:29,360
things seven things so he's got hyper cop kuiper

1397
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,360
yeah he invented a new medal

1398
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,520
yes copper piping which he has painted

1399
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:41,040
no place pleated sorry yes no paint plating

1400
01:39:37,679 --> 01:39:43,040
on the copper tubing and beautifully

1401
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:48,639
sleeved cables mayhem uh blue fluid gorgeous pastel blue i

1402
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:51,920
believe i'm not sure yeah drilled holes through this mid plate that looks like

1403
01:39:50,639 --> 01:39:56,560
you could damage it because it looks like a freaking pcb yeah

1404
01:39:54,639 --> 01:40:00,719
just oh look at these oh look at these tubing runs man the runs are super nice

1405
01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:04,320
and like without the mid plate on it looked a little bit weird with his runs

1406
01:40:02,639 --> 01:40:06,800
but then once the mid plates on it makes tons of sense and looks great yup and

1407
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:11,679
slick this is the i actually gave slick a gtx

1408
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:16,000
670 which he refuses to install on his computer because of the mini pcb boom if

1409
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:20,639
it's good enough for him it's good enough for you

1410
01:40:18,239 --> 01:40:24,320
boom beautiful machine anyway guys go check

1411
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:28,639
it out great sleeving which we've just kind of come to expect

1412
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:32,320
this build i i wanted to show like how he does the under lighting for the there

1413
01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:36,159
we go so now you don't see the glare from the led strips this is with the

1414
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:38,880
side panel on man that's beautiful so it looks it looks better but it's not as

1415
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:44,239
comprehensive as the previous shot that's the only reason why all right moving on to our next build blog the 15

1416
01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:47,679
terabyte bit phoenix prodigy by jim stock 87 i thought you might like this

1417
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:52,560
one especially man love it

1418
01:40:50,719 --> 01:40:55,040
so there's there's not even a ton to say with this one other than go look at on

1419
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:59,520
the build logs because you probably can't see it ghetto mount SSD you win

1420
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:04,320
for that because i'm all about the ghetto mounted ssds ghetto mounted SSD a

1421
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:08,639
little fan that helps cool his raid card and then all the hard drives which is a

1422
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:12,400
thing yeah those raid cards run freaking hot they should have better cooling on

1423
01:41:10,239 --> 01:41:18,400
them no because the way that they're spec'd is not for desktop installation

1424
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:23,440
yeah they're spec'd for racks where there's expected to be like turbine

1425
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:28,320
grade fans drawing air front to back cooling these things in fact right in

1426
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:33,760
the documentation for the lsi card i believe that i have in my machine it

1427
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:35,360
says it expects x number of cfm of

1428
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:39,840
constant airflow you can get one of those gelad pci slot fan

1429
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:44,639
yeah that wouldn't make my machine look ridiculous uh my solution was to put the

1430
01:41:42,719 --> 01:41:48,400
raid card down at the very bottom and then i have a basement radiator that it

1431
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:52,880
gets some incidental airflow from and it doesn't overheat yeah here's another oh

1432
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:56,159
man just a better shot i just wanted to show that it was actually in a prodigy

1433
01:41:54,159 --> 01:42:01,360
with the previous great choice of wd reds that is definitely the appropriate

1434
01:41:58,239 --> 01:42:04,400
drive for a machine like this

1435
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:06,800
and neptune by jojo69

1436
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:10,800
very inappropriate jojo disapprove of that number

1437
01:42:08,639 --> 01:42:12,800
oh my goodness at first i was like huh what what's

1438
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:17,520
so kind of similar idea to one that we saw

1439
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:21,440
previously but he he got his cable sleeved i believe these are extensions

1440
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:26,560
and then he sewed them himself together if you see those lines sewn together so

1441
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:29,600
fascinating the the threading doesn't look bad

1442
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:33,280
and it keeps them in a very nice neat run right which i thought was very cool

1443
01:42:31,679 --> 01:42:38,800
that was a challenge that i had with my machine was like how do you make them

1444
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:42,400
yeah stay together so he sewed them together which kind of makes sense and

1445
01:42:40,639 --> 01:42:47,199
that's and not to just bring attention to that it's a very beautiful build just

1446
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:51,760
yep nice straight tubing runs always looks gorgeous a lot of criticism for my

1447
01:42:49,679 --> 01:42:54,719
overkill buyers guide Linus you should have used better angled fittings you

1448
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:59,440
should have done straighter tubing runs you should have used clear tubing and a coolant et cetera et cetera et cetera

1449
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:04,719
guys it was a build that we were literally going to tear apart as soon as

1450
01:43:02,159 --> 01:43:07,840
we were done building it so yes you're not wrong

1451
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:12,719
you're not wrong but you're also not necessarily right because one of the

1452
01:43:09,679 --> 01:43:14,639
things that i personally don't do is

1453
01:43:12,719 --> 01:43:18,480
invest in very specialized pieces of hardware that i can't continue to reuse

1454
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:22,480
because when i build a rig my graphics card might be in

1455
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:25,679
there for well more so in the past i don't change it as much anymore but i

1456
01:43:24,159 --> 01:43:29,760
would look at everything as it needs to be modular my graphics card might be in

1457
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:35,040
there for two more weeks who knows saying that you have a 590. i know so

1458
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:38,800
it's less true these days but that's always the approach that i've taken to a

1459
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:42,719
rig is how hard is it to work on this bloody thing

1460
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:47,600
so that was why i would never use hard fittings between my slide cards i always

1461
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:52,080
used tubing because i found it easier to disconnect and pull one card if there

1462
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:55,280
was an issue same thing why i never used particularly angled fittings because i'd

1463
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,600
be doing motherboard swaps every three to four weeks

1464
01:43:56,719 --> 01:44:02,639
so no i'm not buying full full cover

1465
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:05,920
motherboard blocks not in my not in my dictionary that's

1466
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:10,960
uh yes but that's not necessarily applicable to everyone no it's not yeah

1467
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:12,719
it's just that's why i took that's my

1468
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:16,239
personal philosophy and if you if you were doing a one run

1469
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:18,960
of that build though i personally agree with them we should have done tightly

1470
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:23,920
straighter runs but we're tearing it down like so so there's that and like

1471
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:26,960
that's we we showed that was just a better shot of the computer but i wanted

1472
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:30,960
to do a close-up shot this one you can see the threading a lot better no way is

1473
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,600
that one of those old zellman hard drive coolers

1474
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:37,679
wow you win the internets for that i don't

1475
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:41,520
even think you can buy those anymore and it even matches the color scheme to

1476
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:45,520
build perfectly yes i wanted to go back to that shot again

1477
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:49,440
there we go gorgeous machine really really good and then carbon

1478
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:53,119
yeah i was trying to i was like there's something i'm missing your carbon fiber

1479
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:57,280
apps like everything that carbon fiber wrap absolutely beautiful

1480
01:44:55,199 --> 01:45:02,480
all right so i think that pretty much wraps it up for the lan show today guys

1481
01:44:59,679 --> 01:45:07,520
thank you very much for your patience we are going to be on the line with shaw

1482
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:11,679
pretty much immediately after this and we are going to see if we can figure out

1483
01:45:09,679 --> 01:45:15,760
these issues for next week and uh i'm just going to call them right

1484
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:19,600
now hopefully next week's stream is not in 240p but thank you for watching

1485
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:23,840
anyway good night everyone thanks guys we'll we will do an after party once

1486
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:28,080
everything's working yeah i think we're we're off for after party because the

1487
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:31,040
stream has already run a full hour over time with us diagnosing technical

1488
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:34,239
difficulties we get everything working next week i think we can we can confirm

1489
01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:40,800
it after party if we get everything working next week and if you guys follow me on twitter you'll have seen that i

1490
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:41,760
now have a new workflow for taking the

1491
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:47,600
um the video clips that we get out of xsplit which have our variable frame

1492
01:45:45,679 --> 01:45:52,320
rate and making sure that the video and audio don't desync so i should be able

1493
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:55,119
to get the lan show uploaded sooner than normal and do you have any family

1494
01:45:53,440 --> 01:46:00,400
functions this weekend that would be great okay well that figures but uh if

1495
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:04,610
you can you get it up tonight i can get it up anytime you want tonight

1496
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:07,720
then