we're live welcome to the WAN Show ladies and
gentlemen the show that didn't start on time because i was busy starting my
other thing late but i i'm also quite impressed at
how not late it is i was expecting starting at like 5 45. i went upstairs
and started to work i'm not really i was like all right
let's settle in for the winter oh man
but video sounded good stream sounded good yeah no i think i thought it was a
good stream so we were um so ASUS made an overclocked well not overclocked but
it has like a binned version of the snapdragon 855
phone and stupid
a thick boy phone for thick boys yeah that's like that takes a bit to reach
the top 6 000 milliamp hour battery wow
check out the smoothness of the screen that's heavy oh it's nice i noticed that
right away how refresh rate do you think it's running
oh boy
he doesn't follow this stuff so no i can i can actually like quiz 120
yeah 120 OLED i genuinely didn't know at all
just because yeah i don't follow it it's pretty like oh man look at that the low
persistence too that is really nice
so cool i just have a hard time getting excited about phones speaking of things
to be excited about i'm kind of back into vr
yeah okay sorry hold on give me we'll talk about that later first i should
probably go through what our topics are for today so i'm going to talk about being back into vr apple's autonomous
car was spotted a lot of uh speculation as to what exactly is going on with the
sensor arrays and all that kind of cool stuff on it there's a couple of folding
phones launching in september apple and google are gonna
potentially hand over gun scope app user data including like ip address and full
names and lots of other stuff and you can pay with your whole hand at whole
foods see what i did there your whole get it
because it takes a it's not just a fingerprint it's like the whole thing
uh agent 3105 says i just realized i
haven't seen luke on the main youtube channel in a while
all right agent um i think you better
find a new career is that like a slow poke meme
is that slow poke me worthy because agent uh it's been like three years
i think agent is probably the wrong pathway
no investigation in your future with that said actually uh oh man see i've
got so much stuff to talk about this week that isn't like the next
thing yeah okay we'll talk about it later let's get through this apple thing
because that's the title topic yes title topic give the people what they want i'm
not eating today actually wait is savage jerky a sponsor today
um people not like that or something they get mad when i eat on stream
because some people apparently it's like something something phonia like they
like it actually causes them physical pain to hear other people eating i'm
just glad they never had well because this mic picks up everything i'm just
glad they never had to sit at a breakfast table with my dad
because oh i should clarify my stepdad so that
you know okay so the way that that man eats cereal
it's disgusting like it's it's unwatchable it's unlisten
to a bull he's like he's wanted he actually can't close his mouth to two
because he needs it open to shovels
it's like oh god you probably just you probably
just did it right it's basically a food mashing machine that just kind of as for
i don't even know if he swallows like i think he just drizzles the the cereal
the cereal scum back back down his throat and then processes it in his
entertainment
nick walks up scratches his head and just leaves it's a it's a bad time um anyway so i'm
trying i'm going to try not to eat them honestly guys i was just really hungry
last week i'm so sorry i didn't have time to eat i actually didn't have time
to eat today because fridays have been stupid over the last little bit um
but uh yeah i will try and do better so apple's autonomous car spotted the
original article here is from 925
mac.com and this is a pretty interesting car
because there is a possibility based on you know
the pixels or whatever that we are looking at an all camera
setup with no lidar whatsoever so for
those not familiar with the term lidar is a technology that uses lasers
to create what is essentially like a uh
a point map of the entire environment around the vehicle
that tells it really everything about the 3d space
around it and can even allow in google's technology
the reading of things like cyclists hand signals um i forget
whether it was google or someone else's lidar tech but they were able to tell
the actual orientation of people standing on the side of the street so
not like which way they swing but more which way their body is likely to drift
because you can tell which way they're facing that's probably a lot easier to do
yeah yeah with that said i think with some people it's fairly obvious that's
fair because they like want you to know right you know but the the accuracy
percentage still wouldn't be that high yeah and well i mean there was that
friend that i had in high school that was uh basically i didn't realize i had
been invited out to a date i thought we were just like hanging out
and going to a movie and then his mom was there and i was like oh okay that
makes more sense now and um
afterward i like how the realization is just oh
okay yeah yeah that was fine like we were still friends after and stuff like
that it doesn't matter it's just like afterward um we had this conversation
like this was like months later um that went something along the lines of like
like sorry i'm like not
um and he's like well when you're ready to admit it to yourself let me know
okay that's that's like
what does that even mean i don't know that's a little aggro
that's like
like he's attacking you and but like not even
he's attacking you in a like you don't know yourself i think it's not that you
don't know yourself i think it's like you know at that because remember we're
like i don't know 17 or 16 or whatever probably not no probably not 17 because
like neither of us would have had our mom
yeah yeah it wouldn't have been that old probably that's pretty cute no this must be like middle school just don't worry
about it we needed to be driven okay we need to be driven but then i realized that she was there not just as a driver
but more a chaperone that was right that was the difference okay um so so anyway
you know like at that age a lot of people you know aren't ready to admit to
themselves like yeah they're they're sort of they're locked into sort of well
this is how it's supposed to be and therefore i must probably fit this mold like that
i don't know maybe maybe in 2019 this is all sounding very quaint but back in
2002 that was a thing you know that was a thing here and i'm sure in a lot of
places it's still very much like that but i don't know that it's necessarily
um quite as big an issue here anyway
i don't think so um so yeah anyway i don't remember how i go
i have no right the lidar lidar lidar uh
lidar right detecting orientation okay so let's why don't we consult the notes
so that we maybe stay out somewhere on topic here so apple has actually had self-driving
car prototypes on the road before now we're not talking apple cars like apple
didn't actually build the drive train but project titan modified cars exactly
where they are where they are clearly very interested in the technology i mean
this isn't their first foray into into transportation um you know apple maps as
as bad as it was when it first launched has come a long way they're clearly
committed to helping people get around being one of the most important things
that our mobile devices can do and as far as i can tell apple transitioned
from being a computer company apple computer into being an apple iphone
accessory company so if the latest iphone accessory happens to
be a car that you plug it into i think that apple can apple can get on board
with that the iphone is the is the beating heart of that company right now
so anyway the new setup has no obvious
lidar devices could be an all-camera setup they recently poached tesla
engineering vp steve mcmanus and increased the size of the test team so
it seems they are still actively pursuing the project in one form or
another although they did fire 200 employees assigned to project titan back
in january so even knows who really knows what's going on over at
apple until they tell us because they have some pretty good non-disclosure
agreements as far as i can tell with that said i have never had the privilege
of reading one because apple still doesn't reply to my messages actually oh
this is this is great let me see if i i don't know if i have uh
i don't know if i have the software that i would need to pull this up no i don't
have that installed on this computer you know what i'm going to pull a um a faux
pas ever since we leaked a bunch of financial data i was just going to say
it might not be the best software to use
at all don't worry about it while screen sharing yeah yeah no no i got it back to
your personal laptop no you're gonna use it anyways no i got this um everything's
fine so i actually want to share with you um my chat log with apple support
when i reached out complaining that they actually don't have a press contact
email on their website anymore there's just you can view the newsroom
which is just articles that apple publishes about itself um but that's it
there there's no actual hey i'm a member of the media and i would like to speak
to a human being at apple iphone accessory inc um
and uh maybe it's because you call them apple iphone accessory well i had never
done that before today so that's obviously um nonsense maybe
it's because you spent seven years talking trash about them i have not spent seven years talking trash about
them i gave the iphone 6s my phone of the year award it was a great phone and
then they ruined it um
case in point well no i'm just being honest i'm allowed to have an opinion so
anyway um so i reached out to their live
chat because drink that please i don't even know what's on there just there we
go yeah so we good yeah okay so i need a dongle because you know what i'm i'm
switching i'm not going to keep using the blade stealth 20 whatever year this
came out i don't care it doesn't matter um too many dongles required so it
doesn't have a native HDMI which i didn't consider while i was doing that
video and more importantly i didn't notice the short shift
it has an arrow key where the shift is which is basically the worst sin because
i am constantly hitting both of them at the same time while i am typing which
causes me to go up with shift which highlights everything which i then
overwrite ah also my trackpad seems to be defective
well that's not surprising so i'm late i'm done i'm done with this
um i think uh dell actually sponsored a video but they have a really interesting
looking laptop in the mail to me right now what was the failure rate of our
internal blades i don't know forty percent something like that yeah that's
not the point solid oh um one moment please sweet then it doesn't
work that well give it give it a give it a sec okay give it a sec
i mean we're we're in a remote we're in a remote desktop
connection elation mode right now here
um yeah why is that not working that shouldn't matter yeah that shouldn't
matter at all okay hold on let's just try that again
would have been great though yeah well you know i do i do aim to please
there's so starcraft 2 has these packs that you can get that are like
different people's voices and stuff so like you can have like a commentator
cast your game for you or like someone else i would
actually run with like a Linus pack in Windows
so like whenever you unplug and plug things yeah
every time an error message comes up it's i can't do that
um i'm gonna restart your computer for totally no reason huh
okay i would be much nicer about it
okay it's working now i couldn't careful yeah yeah i got this i got this a blue
screen is just accompanied by a laugh trash okay so anyway
i wanted to go to the september 10th iphone event because i'm gonna have to
cover it anyway so i might as well just watch it from the audience instead of
here in the comfort of my own home because i hate myself so
i reached out to them and i had to i just had to reach out to like genius
support for like the iphone i was like i don't know my
iphone won't update or something anyway so i um right because you have to give
them a reason yeah you have to give a reason and the reason can't be i just
want to talk to a human being at apple that is not the reason that you're that
you may not provide that that reason uh so hold on a second i'm just gonna
actually blank this out um i think this has leaked like a
hundred times anyway yeah probably oh wait that's really good yeah that's
really guessable uh
sure sure you know what why don't we just take all the fun out of it there
you go um confirm your apple id blee blah blah
blah blah is this like are you allowed to share private community they recorded
it and in canada uh it's single party consent
so yes right but they consented to it and so
did i because they said they are recording it but i don't think they can
send it to you recording i don't i don't
care yeah um all right so i mean if they reach out that would
probably be a good yeah maybe we could start with the communication right all
right so anyway so so you've got to be kidding me
okay
this is great oh my goodness well i'm glad you're having fun now obs is broken
yeah the here try the stream deck sorry
why is that no no no so then yeah it's just it's
just dead it is just actually broken like legit broken maybe that's
about your screen hey yours is working uh
so i'm the only one who's not working you are taking the rog phone from me sir
i will have to unlock that for you okay
uh yes it's now unlocked please don't read my
emails um
wait what's going on now so do you want to just email that to me holy crap this
is i can i can't switch back what's going on oh it's sitting on the page
down key nice dang it sorry sorry hold
on oh for um
mine worked do you want to email it to me we can no i got this all right sounds
good i can do this i am logged into my email yes
why is it like that this is just it doesn't matter we'll we'll get this
okay um wait what why
officially 20 minutes into the show good enough here we go all right the the
the okay thanks for contacting apple support with
the audio what the audio version of this podcast will be fantastic
thanks for contacting apple support my name is whatever my name is how can i
help you hey lions how's it going today oh wait is
that them too oh it was great i'm in the media i wanted to know how does one go
about getting an invite to the september event i link my youtube channel
just to ensure we're on the same page you would like to receive an invitation to go to the event in september however
you're not sure what the process is and would like to find out yeah that's pretty much what i said thank you
there's no obvious media contact on the site so i ended up coming through here
i'd be more than happy to assist you to see how best we can work together in
hopes of guiding you on a path to resolution where this issue you're
having is concerned what even is that sentence that's amazing is it you're
talking to a knight i know right is it okay if i ask a few
questions sure please confirm your apple id yep
um i just clarified that i have no idea what apple id the phone that i used
because i had to provide a serial number for a phone in order to talk to apple so i just grabbed one from my desk like i
it's not in my daily driver phone i don't even think anything's logged into it
that's okay is it okay if i place you on hold while i consult with my resources
to provide you with this information so about 10 minutes on hold it's not
totally unreasonable i'm back i have consulted with my resources
okay so you ask someone here's a link with
the details to attend the function here's a big apple logo don't worry
about that developer.apple.com
wwdc19 which not only is not apple's
september event policy um so it does have the policy for how
you attend because you can pay to attend to wwdc but it's wwdc
not the september launch event yeah completely different event
i go okay that's wwdc is that the wrong link also i am press i am not a
developer regarding the invite the seats are reserved for the press by invite
only right that is the point of this conversation i
am the press i need a contacted apple
i don't want to be pushy but it shouldn't be complicated for me to get immediate contact we have more views on
our mac pronouncing video than you do
apple would do that's pretty cool that's a good flex apple would be the one to
reach out to members of the press with an invite as the function would be for selected members only well it would be
hard for them to do that if they don't have my contact information and i don't
have a press relations contact there tell you what i gotta run to a meeting
oh bloody hell that's my email that's fine it's leaked a thousand times are we
all set from here oh yeah this is great if they want to get in touch here's my
email they go is are we all set from here i just want to know that you're comfortable with the steps i provided
what steps i wasn't given any steps
i need a media contact and that was in fact the end of that
interaction um she did arrange to have a supervisor
call me after um and they informed me actually i don't
even remember how that conversation ended but basically
no there was not in fact anything that they
could or would do about it um they said oh right i do remember how it ended um
it kind of went around in circles like that and then i said tell you what
um oh i got an email right i emailed the
email nope right okay so they said they would they would see if anyone said cool
and then they gave me an email that i could contact um and then i emailed that
email and i never heard back right i do remember now good so i i'm
hopefully not misrepresenting that's uh how the way in which i was ignored
that's a beautiful story um yeah i thought that was a pretty i thought that
was a pretty heartwarming story too this bothers me um oh the fact that this is
like a hard edge and it's brushed yeah i
realize this i realize it's plastic it's not going to stain at least
um anyway so i'm not going to the september event
i don't remember how i got on that subject
we were talking about apple autonomous vehicles it doesn't matter you know what
nick's been waiting very patiently what can i do for you nick um it's actually
nothing to do with the show and i just need to ask you something off camera oh
uh okay this mic is aggressively sensitive yeah brb just like yeah
i've noticed it pick up trucks outside be very careful
i don't know what to talk about while they're gone because i don't know how long they're gonna be gone but probably
the next thing we're gonna talk about is that there are two folding phones coming
in september that's probably going to be the next
topic the fold launched in korea today but i believe the they're launching in
september thing is more talking about the north american market or else we
would have said that it came out now huawei has confirmed the launch date for
its next flagship phone line the mate 30 series will be unveiled in munich
germany on september 19th so we'll figure that out soon maybe it won't be
september but we'll we'll figure it out soon oftentimes these events have been
like and it's coming now or something so it'll it'll probably
be fairly soon samsung is finally ready to unveil their
refined galaxy fold after an embarrassing initial rollout earlier
this year that was played with multiple damage review units they said in july
that the fold would be available in september so theoretically that's
now-ish which would be cool is everything all good uh yeah cool
we're talking about two folding phones launching in september um yeah both of which were supposed to
launch ages ago yeah um yeah so who knows if they'll even launch now well
the full launch in korea already but then yeah it might unlaunch like
the curious thing about all of this is that i haven't seen like they were
treating the fold as this global launch event and press all over the world had
review units ahead of time so that there would be coverage so that people would
get hyped about it so that they would um which was so suicidal so that they would
be incentivized to go and buy it on launch date and most of them don't know
how volatile they were and now they've just no i i think they just didn't
well i think the people making the decision just didn't
accept it we've seen that a few times yeah we've seen that before yeah so this
time it seems like they're doing a quiet launch and it is pretty common for um
not just samsung i'm trying to think like other korean companies have done this before too to just quietly launch
something in korea yeah where i don't know i guess their their
customers are a little more forgiving if something sucks or the volumes are lower
so they can they can control the damage
is definitely a disaster yeah yeah so it seems like they've just done a quiet
launch in korea did you already cover the updates to this one
uh no that's where i am okay cool so they did a quiet launch in korea and um
seems like they've made a few changes so caps were added to the top and bottom edges of the hinge to seal off the gaps
that previously might have allowed dust into the mechanism the layer that people
mistook for a screen protector and peeled off now extends beyond the edges
of the screen and tucks under the bezel so there aren't any bits exposed and
they added layers of metal under the display to strengthen its protection and
hopefully make it so you won't be able to feel the machinery beneath the screen
when you poke at it with the updates the fold also locks
into place more rigidly than before and it's almost completely 180 degrees flat
when it's open the stronger lock also makes the device less floppy when you're holding the open
phone with one hand i love that they said that because this
whole time i've been hoping that a derogatory term for these phones ends up
being floppy phones floppy phones because it's just great flop phone
that's not bad a flop phone yeah flip phone flap floam yeah flip-flop
i like it samsung also managed to reduce the gap between the folds hinge and body
so it isn't as thick when it's closed as it was before no word on when the
rollout will be expanded to the us and internationally um now we should go
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were super hyped about high senses double lcd uled technology will you ever
review one of their tvs um
i don't know how much i can say
because i've signed an nda
but i am still
i feel exactly the same way about uled technology as i did
and when and if hisense were to ever release any kind of product based around
that technological concept um i would be super amped to check it
out especially if they had some like really
good ideas for how they could make it better
next topic uh yeah let's move on apple and google to hand over guns no i want
to talk about vr okay we did we did the title topic yeah we did the title topic
so like it's cool again it's kind of cool again
yeah um i'm getting back into it too i think
taking a break was the right idea and then now i'm genuinely re-excited about
things because a bunch of really interesting stuff has happened so index
is a legit second gen experience five pro
was not i was really upset about vive pro because
it was like everything i didn't
ask for and nothing that i did ask okay one thing i asked for okay the the
screen resolution was better but vive pro by by htc's own admission was
vive but professional it was not vive ii
and i wanted an upgrade like when did the htc vive come out let's just check
this uh 2014.
htc vive release date
like it was a long freaking time ago i don't think it was 2014. it was like
2016. 2016. why is my interwebs taking so long
oh yeah no dang it i'm gonna re-guess at 2015.
what you don't just get to re-guess okay okay
okay okay i was thinking of besides you're gonna be right if i went over
anyway because price is right rules oh apparently all right that's fine i
can oh wait are we still we are still transmitting from the desktop cool okay
well i don't know how that works well maybe the wi-fi was doing again that's fine uh htc i'm on my mobile data
it's fine i got this mobile htc vive release date um
oh man 2016.
you're right heck yeah wow i'm awesome i thought it was so long ago but i'm thinking i think
crystal cove dev kits went out in august and september of 2015. um
but like that's still a long time ago yeah that's
like three years ago so when the vive pro came out like i i was i was
expecting vr to be like this rapidly iterating technology because
around that time that was in the midst of the mobile
display pixel density race right like that was when you know sony
was shipping a 4k phone and i was like
screens they're going to get super dense and an OLED technology it's going to be
super low persistence and like it's going to be it's going to be
flipping awesome and then it just
stopped in 2017 i guessed five years
for what for vr to like really be poppin
yeah i can see that uh they they crossed the one percent threshold for install
base in the steam hardware survey not bad heck yeah uh working on it um and more
importantly some of the technologies that i did not
have a lot of faith in are starting to show promise so have you
tried the oculus quest no but i've read a lot about it i
haven't tried it myself and i've talked to a guy that uses it
basically all the time okay it's only 72 hertz or whatever do you know the
picture of the guy and his son standing by their tesla at a tesla charging
station and they're both playing the quest it went trending not that long ago no i
didn't see that oh i like hung out with him for a while he's actually really cool he actually
lives locally but yeah anyways so the quest
it's only 72 hertz it's running on like
snapdragon 835 or whatever like it's not even is it 8 35
oculus quest snap dragon
is it 8 45 it's not 8 55 that's for sure
uh oh eight no 8 35 yeah 835 um
ancient technology and mobile
but depending on the type of game not
everything is a great experience but depending on the type of game
it is shockingly good and not having the the
weight of the and the inconvenience of the tether
yeah like it is so much better than the
mobile based vr experiences that i had had in the past
just garbage that i was blown away like the tracking is so
good and after my experience with i'm
saying a lot of the things that i'm going to repeat in my upcoming review of
the rift s as well as the upcoming uh video
Floatplane i'm sorry i think it's on Floatplane right uh
yes quest okay rift s i have not actually shot but i have fully written i
finished writing it last night um
so yeah there's a plug for Floatplane if you subscribe on Floatplane it's like
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exclusive content we're not trying to oversell it it's a way to support minus
tech tips the meet the team videos are pretty cool um
so the tracking on it the the the the freedom of being able to
like wander around in a gigantic play space
uh compared to what i'm used to because i mean theoretically on my index yeah i
could have like a 15 by 15 play space or whatever the stupid like maximum size is
ridiculous with what tether yeah
what like powered active DisplayPort repeaters every five meter like what
it's not even like it's not even a real conversation
you know what i mean yeah yeah um because wireless isn't feasible for it
yet the the resolution and refresh rate are just too high it's too much bandwidth until we get another revision
of 60 60 gigahertz wi-fi
um so it was just kind of surreal and playing something like beat saber which
i always come back to because it's casual enough that it runs on mobile
hardware but it's hardcore enough in that it is like a genuinely skill
requiring game yeah yeah um solo competitive it's and it's very sensitive
to uh uh
to errors in tracking for the controllers or for latency issues i like
playing it's great it's great for certain experiences
that's cool and after my experience with Windows mixed reality right that's where
i was going with that i had no faith in inside out tracking
i thought it was dead on arrival i was like they will not fix the
occlusion issues uh they will not fix the drift
we're done here i'm so okay i was very pessimistic i wasn't
okay well then you were smarter than me good for you
hooray i'm just i didn't i haven't heard you
say that before that's why i'm surprised i thought outside in was always going to
be the premium experience
it is though still but
rift s have you tried it uh okay
okay still no but there was one at pax that my brother tried and there was
clear and obvious issues with it okay but was that at pax
no it was because of the headset because there are areas where it doesn't
track well you should come over and try sure or just take it home it's
my office it has to come back on monday because i'm shooting that video online there's like no room in my house there's
like no point okay well the thing about the rift s though
is that it doesn't need room
you just put it up yeah okay i can't there's no
light houses i could test the if i wonder if i could get them to send me
the build of the game but there's there was a football game okay and the whole
idea was it was sevens football so it's passing only and all this kind of stuff
i don't know the name of it i'm sorry if you're watching this um but they were at
pax they're releasing the game relatively soon i think but so you're the quarterback you have to throw the
ball okay and the only way they're able to run it yeah okay it's because you go
here and you can throw it so the whole time i was like why did you guys bring
this headset like what this is so cause you watch everyone play this football
game and they're like yeah it tracks properly if you throw the ball properly we have it modded right now so you can
go beep i'm like that's so dumb
okay there are games that have issues
i will give you that yeah none of the things i play regularly
the only thing i'm saying is you said okay i i thought uh
the the other version of tracking would always be better i'm like well yeah
i think that's probably something because because the thing too is that
the rift s and the quest get a lot of their location data from the
accelerometer and gyroscope in the controller i don't
think it's unsolvable so it's it's solvable and then what it's doing is
it's using the constellation map uh from the headset to the controllers yeah to
correct yeah so as long as you are only
occluded for a short period of time theoretically it should be fine and
in my experience using it in my living room it was very good i did get some
glitchiness like when i'd first put it on um
but then it would kind of settle in
and i couldn't i couldn't tell in fact hollow ball is a game that i have kind
of used as my benchmark for um
controller tracking yeah because i as a badminton player i tend to i tend to
flick my wrist rather than swing my ARM okay when i'm
trying to hit a ball yeah um and that game is obviously designed around a
tennis swing an ARM swing because otherwise it is utterly hopeless at
tracking where your hand is it's too fast right and so i like i can swing
right through the ball i can watch the paddle go through like it just doesn't work yeah yeah um
and what i found was on the rift s i was way more likely to hit the ball
like worlds more likely and oculus claims or
i should say facebook at this point their last founding member was out as of
i think like a couple weeks ago oh really yeah uh so facebook claims that
they are updating their location with one millisecond granularity now it's not
a perfect update because if you can see the racket go through the ball i'm
suspecting this is a collision issue and not a tracking issue could be if you see
the racket go through the ball okay i should clarify i see where the racket is
okay i see that i followed through and i see
that the ball went through where i was going so no it's not like i see the
models yeah yeah yeah yeah okay um but so on there so anyway so it's every it's
30 times a second with the camera so that's where it's checking for drift
yeah and then it's apparently i have no way of validating it but
apparently millisecond granularity from the gyroscope yeah and accelerometer
seems controlling um and i did find that it was better
that's cool but they dropped it to 80 hertz um
yeah and like i you were there the second i put the index on
holy crap it's so it's so much better intensely noticeable
the the the resolution the refresh rate everything it's it's amazing even the
the like safe zones i have a really hard problem with headsets where if they're
not tilted and not tilted to the exact specification
and exactly far enough away then they look like they look terrible to me right
it's probably because my eyes suck but whatever and then the index it didn't
really matter i threw it on and while it was coming on i was like everything's
perfect and then i sit it down i'm like everything's still perfect but it's a
thousand dollars yeah it's a thousand dollars anyway all of this is why i'm
really excited about what's happening right now because we finally have a real
upgrade at the high end yeah index yeah um
and a good solid solution that isn't there
yes because i've always kind of detested i
remember i made a big part in a video about this a long time ago um about how
i was kind of annoyed with all these different phone companies and stuff
advertising mobile vr so i was like now everyone's gonna think
this is what vr is yep and that was really frustrating but hopefully we're
leaving that era where vr is just good
um okay uh hey someone pointed out in
the uh super chats that uh the apple media helpline is apparently listed on
apple.com leadership which has all their
executives and their uh board of directors
um yes that's just help that's not it is indeed like it's a it's a generic thing
yeah yeah but i believe that is actually the email address that i was eventually
provided so thank you um that is legitimately quite
helpful i appreciate it um thank you for the super chat
unfortunately i i doubt i mean i i i
will call it i'll call it oh yeah yeah i'll see you she should call it now
should i i think that would be great i think that would be awesome all right
they're probably closed but like why i don't know i don't know i mean
give it a shot like 47 billion dollars in the bank
actually i think it's a lot more than that i think that's uh facebook that has about 45 billion in the bank right now
i don't remember how much apple has i'm sure they can afford to pay someone
to answer important media inquiries late at night 285.1 billion dollars
all right so i'm not going to put them on speaker
until i get consent here do you want to cover the next news topic sure yeah yeah
okay we could do an apple topic
apple and google to hand over gun scope app user data so this gun scopes they
could like uh i believe they could be remotely viewed
so you could like see through the gun scope on your phone or something like
that and they have some other kind of neat information
the information that they're potentially passing forward the us government has
ordered them to hand over hand over names phone numbers and ip addresses of
at least 10 000 users of a single gun scope app made by night vision
specialist american technologies network corp i'm assuming they weren't there uh
it's just a voicemail where you leave your email address your message your
name and your media outlet number which is i clearly don't have nice um
and they will get back to you ultimately you can email media.help apple.com
awesome so basically it's effectively emailing them yes
uh so the the app specifically allowed them to get a live stream of the scope
take video like so record the scope i guess and calibrate their scope from an
Android or iphone device it's been downloaded more than 10 000 times on
Android apple doesn't provide the numbers
ice or immigration and customs enforcement is seeking information as
part of a broad investigation into possible breaches of weapons export
regulations so i think the idea is they're trying to figure out where these
things are getting registered so they can figure out if they're getting sold somewhere that they shouldn't be being
sold if that makes sense i believe that is
the that is the goal if apple and google decide to hand over
the information it could include data on thousands of people who have nothing to
do with the crimes being investigated um
which could it says in here set a dangerous precedent yeah it's
pretty interesting unless there's like some form of disgus
i don't know this is getting into weird law stuff but they should i guess tell
you maybe you have to i don't know that's
really weird i have no idea i don't know how american laws work i'm not gonna say
anything um so there are reports online that have
claimed that atn scopes were being used by the taliban which would obviously be
a bit of a problem but how could you prove because couldn't someone just buy
it in america and just ship it somewhere it's a scope is it illegal to ship that
somewhere i have no idea maybe it is well there's lots of things that are
illegal to ship to like it's actually in the end user license agreement that you
can't okay so for example we have um a thermal camera yeah that we had to sign
a very long and detailed document saying
that it will be in our possession only and if
it is ever not in our position we need to in our possession we need to return
it and that we will not use it in any way to aid help a bet or whatever um
terrorist activity or any of these industries or whatever else like wow
there is equipment that is tightly regulated like that i could see
something like um weapons scope be part of it yeah that
makes sense being the kind of thing that comes with uh
uh i used to i was just thinking i will not give it to a terrorist to shoot
people if something is being used somewhere it's hard to say that the
company that sells it is at fault like what wasn't the
was it isis driving a whole fleet of toyota trucks
i don't i don't remember like is that toyota's fault i don't think so i don't
know it depends if the toyota sent a sales rep over there like hey want a
deal wanna want a bunch of trucks i just i don't know i this is way beyond me but
i think it's a little funky like hey some people are using it that
means you did illegal things oh well
paying with your hand yeah paying with your hand at whole foods so amazon is
testing a payment system code named orville
that scans here i mean i mean isn't that just spookily close to
orwell yeah like is that where you that was a bad idea i
did too it scans human hands to ring up their purchases
they're reportedly using their new york employees as guinea pigs by installing
the system on a handful of perhaps a joke handful a vending machine selling
chips sodas and phone chargers in their offices unlike most biometric systems
that require you to touch the surface of the scanner amazon's take on the
technology doesn't need you to physically touch anything they use computer vision and depth
geometry to identify the size and shape of your hand before charging the credit
card you have on file wow furthermore you don't even need to have
your phone with you when you shop so this could make shopping at whole foods
even more seamless than at amazon go stores you need to be a prime member for
hand-based payments to work um
it's possible they decided to give customers the option to pay with their
hands instead of their face because it would feel less like a mug shot and now
they can recommend you the perfect size gloves
possibly even figure out basic nutritional health data so they can
recommend you different drugs and
nutritional supplements and what kind of condoms you need not that it's proportional
uh amazon is reportedly hoping to roll the technology out to a handful of whole
foods stores by the beginning of next year with no specific locations in
mind and they're refining it so they can bump the accuracy up from within one ten
thousandth of an inch or sorry one ten thousandth of one
percent to a millionth of one percent before launch that is incredible that's
pretty nuts all right then that's pretty much it for the lan show yeah i
appreciate you guys tuning in we'll see you again next week same bats time same
bad channel bye
dang oh wait
can james do another laptop replacement style video of the samsung tab s6 like
he did for the ipad pro did james do that i thought riley wrote
our ipad pro video either way uh we thought about it we just
really didn't care um
i don't know how to i don't know how to say that more kindly
um 39 says what does this button do it gives us money thanks
ah dbb blaine i'll give you 20 more to eat an entire
bag of jerky on air hold on a second are you gonna do it
well only if there's that's a lot of jerky only if there's flavors i really
like okay oh there's no jerky on hand oh wait is
there jerky over there one moment please they didn't sponsor this show i know
that's fine i don't care oh wow there's a lot of jerky here
if there's maple buffalo bacon i will eat the whole thing
in one handful have you seen the wow yeah i'm doing it is that maple okay oh
yeah oh i'm so excited okay how many how many yeah
how how like what's the nutritional information on an entire bag of jerky um
here we go per serving size okay servings per
container two so this will be sixteen percent of my daily total fat um
ten grams not as bad as i thought uh three percent of my daily or six percent
of my cholesterol a whopping 70 percent of my daily sodium intake there we go
10 grams of carbohydrate including uh oh that's 10 grams of sugars and 5 grams
of protein that could be a lot worse yeah
i mean that's sort of the idea behind savage turkey not that i have to do their talking points because they didn't
sponsor the show today but like yep that's true it's not that bad yeah um
all right this is going to be a little messy because this one's kind of like oily a broken tv
in one in one shot i am not sure if i had completely thought this through that
is a lot of bacon um
a broken tv says can i do one serving there's two servings per bag can i just
do half of that i think i think there's like a level of challenge or disgusting
and you got to figure out where on that makes the most sense he's doing the
whole thing no he's doing one serving
he did two thirds of the package i would say
okay that was a huge amount
that was the lion's share of the of the bacon all at once i'm so happy going on
i'm gonna keep doing super chats uh a broken tv have you seen the
microsoft musical their interns made no
that sounds interesting uh the usual gaming pc and one piece of the wire
large atx cases still the standard i think in my opinion being able to mess
around with things is cool and nice and people don't want to have to limit
themselves and if they have the space for that tower
then whatever because the cases don't really cost much more
the hardware doesn't really cost much more
if anything in a lot of cases possibly cheaper because they're more common
also using your old case is a thing that i suspect
quite a few people actually do um especially having gone to quite a few
lands now it's like wow yeah that's from uh
that's from the early 2000s yeah exactly
and it has modern hardware in it cool i am still planning to review the chevy
volt um as for the regular like trade-ins and
doing car review videos obviously i like didn't get around to that um
i still kind of want to do it you still do you can do like a car review every
year that's not a bad approach i spent a year
with the chevy volt yeah these are my thoughts i mean i have a lot of thoughts
about the volt i've basically written out everything i have to say and then i
was putting it off until the summer because i wanted the weather to be good while we shot and now the summer's gone
um so maybe i'll do it next year
i mean i have such a great title for the video that it's gonna perform super well
regardless of how like outdated the volt and how discontinued it is at that point
so right why did we start uploading complete
videos on facebook um facebook turned on monetization for us so we
stopped ignoring them cool um
video suggestion make a skull trail follow up with the evga sr2 i would love
to do that um
isn't that kind of old now the dual socket board
for gamers um i forget i thought the srx
was after the sr2 though
cody says i work in labrador we have 24 megabytes in town and one meg in the
country oh oh mega bit i guess um no cell service hard to watch your
videos at 2 am when no one's online oh
lol thank you for the dedication nice
um you need a new backpack because mine got stolen i'm going to order an LTT
backpack because it has everything i need we don't have a backpack
speaking of um Linus tech tips merch though
we are we finally have the stealth hoodie back in stock also RAM shirts
yeah so the hoodie that i'm oh uh one moment please
that's better uh so yeah the hoodie i'm wearing is finally back in stock it's
been out of stock for a few weeks now i think um
and then the RAM shirt has actually been super popular um underwear is doing
really well actually the store's been doing awesome nick and lloyd are doing a
great job massive thanks to all of our models who
help us like make these things look good
and also our other models well they're there on the site uh this
is such a great picture of alex i love it it is actually swag it yeah um swag
it's like out of stock of everything but extra and extra extra large it's
freaking ridiculous you guys have been giving us an incredible amount of
support we have new colors of water bottles coming i think in the next couple of
weeks constellations still doing really well
elemental constellation and CPU are going to be hard to dethrone for me
you think so yeah i actually am partial to hard drive hard drive's really good
hardware's really really good i i like that for people who aren't into
computers they're like oh yeah it's like a record
and i'm like sure yeah why not
it's whatever you want to be yeah whatever makes you happy
that's funny um
apple no answer Linus karma's a [ __ ]
all right fair enough tommy again me again my reminder to you that you
promised to bring back Channel Super Fun okay we're working on it yeah they
didn't say when it could be like 20 30. i did say what um yeah i said like
sometime in the next couple months so we booked a shoot date today no we didn't
book it like four today but we booked it today for later
we're both beautiful uh plantation says read his emails no no
he didn't read my emails because he's a good person oh get wrecked um christian
says luke i expect my purple sharpie back next year at ltx 2020. i think i
have it so maybe
keumer says something ninja says here's my google opinion rewards money
maybe this helps what is google opinion right i think it's like um
would you like rate stores and stuff
really yeah you get money for that i think you have to sign up for the
program and then i think if you do enough of it you probably get something
so that's probably like all he's ever made on it huh it's my assumption
i really don't know and it probably it probably only gives you money within the google ecosystem
jerry says youtube bad Floatplane good yeah
still using my pc you helped me build in 2015 with a 6600k and 964 gig keep doing
what you do nice sweet
i would call icarly you guys are friends with her it might be your best bet i
think you mean i justine yeah carly that's a good i think icarly's
like a disney channel thing
i could um so a little bit of inside baseball for you guys
it's actually considered and this is like
unspoken but it's considered
um bad manners
to reach out to other members of the media
and ask for hookups unless you have exhausted all other options and as far
as i'm concerned by the time i have reached out to apple media support and
said hey i'd love to start a conversation
and they have clearly opted not to follow that up with me
i have basically um i have got an answer
even if it was an answer that i didn't like and so to put someone else like
justine um or you know jonathan morrison or austin
or whoever into a potentially bad situation yeah to put one of them in a position where
they have to put their neck on the line
for to ask someone else to put their neck on the line to overturn a decision
that has clearly already been made it's like it's not unheard of it's something
i have done but it's like a pretty it's a bigger
favor than you guys might necessarily think
because there's a finite number of seats at these events there's a finite number
of review samples and there's a finite amount of time
and company reps they have to manage all of those things
and so for every for every exception that gets made
someone gets kicked out of a seat off a review sample list or
out of getting a reply in the inbox if that kind of makes sense to you guys
so we try to be we try to be diplomatic
about the way that we engage with companies if they want to engage with us
that's great and if they don't then as far as we're concerned you know i'll
reach out once every three years or so and be like hey um has the yahoo who
decided they think we're not worth talking to quit or been fired yet no
okay then i guess we'll wait
that's a good way of putting it i like that um aerotech says have you guys ever
considered an unread build config guide i think you guys could do better than
the other guys in youtube um no actually i hadn't thought of doing that uh lately
it's just it's kind of dry
trent says school apple sucks i tried to purchase ipads for a school i worked for
and couldn't get anyone at apple to give me a quote
but this says schools only can buy from apple i don't really understand what
that message thanks everett thanks kyle
yes we're hiring just go to our website if you can't figure out where the
positions are listed on our website then you're probably not the right candidate
um all right milk or fish last question
um why does LTT Store charge in usd instead of cad because most of our
viewers are us and also the usda is worth more
and it's more consistent and just people internationally understand it better
internationally it makes a lot more sense everyone knows their own currency
in usd because so much so much of product
pricing be it games or computer hardware or whatever it's at least initially
based on that it's based on usd and then converted although that's become less true over the last like five to ten
years um like it used to be that european pricing
was sort of based on usd pricing now it's based on it but it's just like one
to one because i don't know
f anyone who pays in pounds or the euro yeah are that
kind of brutal
all right oh 32 bytes says you get money to use on the google play store for
taking surveys um
mostly if you've been to a local store you get about 10 to 20 cents each that's not bad that's surprisingly not bad i've
got a hundred bucks wow if you're playing classic wow
join fairbanks horde join the guild come hang out
all right see you guys bye