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Televisions used to cost nearly 10,000

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today bucks and you'd get a tiny little screen in a giant cabinet. But today you

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can get a perfectly chromulent TV for just $30. Okay, it's not exactly a

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cinema in your home, but we bought this from Best Buy for $35.

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So why would you spend more? Well, if you pony up $300, you'll get something

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larger, sleeker, and high definitioner.

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Is this the sweet spot? If you're not a cinnophile, probably. But if you spend

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$3,000 of dollars like we used to on

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TVs, you could get a state-of-the-art OLED panel that makes everything we've

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looked at so far look like it was designed for Linusized humans with very

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poor eyesight. But what if you could spend three tens, thousands of dollars?

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How much more TV do you really get when you spend car money on a television set?

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Is it worth it? Or is this little guy good enough? After all, even this is

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practically science fiction technology compared to what your parents grew up

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with. I mean, look how clear the picture is. Hey, I can even make out this segue

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Let's kick things off with the best deals that I've gotten in a long time.

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This openbox 32in Insignia NS-32F 201

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NA23. Okay, sure. It's only in fair

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condition and it sports just a 1280 x 720p resolution, but it comes with a

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short open box warranty. The display itself actually looks pretty good. And

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come on guys, 35 bucks is 35 bucks. Who needs the full high definition when the

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screen is this small? You probably even

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at just 32 in guess the PPI. It's like 45 PPI.

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>> 45 pixels. >> That is small pi.

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And the worst part is that because this

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was an open box deal, normally you would pay a lot more for this thing. On Black

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Friday promo, it was more like $70, which is about twice what we paid for

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it. And the value proposition gets

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pretty questionable at that point. Let's give it a shot. You know, the remote,

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>> it's fine. >> It feels okay. >> Yeah, it's better than the Samsung

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remote we'll try later. >> Wow. You can really see those dark areas

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in the corners. >> I don't think that's a defect, sir. I

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think that's just the TV. >> For being a 720p display, the text looks

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crisper than I expected, though. >> Smaller than I expected.

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>> It's It's tiny. But growing up, I would have been stoked for a TV like this.

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>> We've already run into a problem. What button am I supposed to press?

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>> Okay, I actually can't tell from here. >> Oh, it is. It's the home button.

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>> Why does it have to do this? We turned the TV on with it. This is a Fire TV.

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>> Yeah, you're getting Fire TV builtin. >> It's not the worst smart TV platform.

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And 5 GHz Wi-Fi. Show me anything else for $35 that has 5 GHz support. My eyes

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are starting to dry out just looking at this for this long. Full. Uh, yeah.

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Let's go with just not installing any of your is not an option.

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>> All of the ads it works. Okay, but what's this show called?

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>> Okay. No, from the thumbnail. I know that it is only because I recognize

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>> as much fun as we're having making fun of the Fire TV experience, though. We

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want consistency as we're evaluating all our different TV sets. So, we're going

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to switch over to an NVIDIA Shield really quick here. It's got three

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inputs, though, which all things considered, not that bad. And does have

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an optical jack, which if I was running a TV like this, I would 100% want a

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soundbar, and that would be extremely handy. >> Well, I had even thought of the speaker

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quality. >> Uh oh, input. I forgot about this. Yeah,

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there's no input button. Ridiculous. >> I expect that on a Samsung TV.

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Frustrated with seeing the same ads on repeat. Well, that's how their TV is.

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$35 open box. >> Let's go to that spot we like to watch.

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>> These are better than I expected. >> Harsh, but clear.

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>> If you had a child and sat them in front of this TV and turned the speakers on,

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they would be stoked. >> They would not care. >> Is it TN? It doesn't seem like it.

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>> No, I'm pretty sure this is VA. >> So it is. So it is. Like, dude, it's

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kind of fine. >> That's not terrible viewing angles. >> No, I'm downright impressed.

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>> And for only $35, open box fair. It's

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normally 70 bucks on sale. >> And the distance.

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>> It is funny how almost the exact same size it is.

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>> And your speakers are probably better. >> Plus, this is OLED. You know, just

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because it doesn't get over like 300 nits of brightness, that doesn't mean

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it's not bright enough. >> Oh, it's very usable. >> Do you want to know what the color

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accuracy is? I'm gonna guess delta E

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average of 13 >> in standard mode. Yes. But it has a film

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mode. >> No. >> Yeah. It's got a film mode. >> Shut up. >> Yeah. And in the film mode, it gets an

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average of six with a max of like 12. >> That's not bad. >> That's not bad. Like it's not amazing.

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The only real downside to this TV, aside from like size and pixel density, the

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latency, even with game mode on, it's still bad. It measures at like 7

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milliseconds over the theoretical perfect. Even that's not that bad

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compared to Okay, it's not not that long ago. I could game with an extra 7

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milliseconds of latency. In summary, no, it's not amazing, but it's amazingly

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better than I expected, even at the non-open box price, making it perfect

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for something like a dentist office or a guest or a kids' room. Who I would say

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it's not for though, is someone who is struggling with affordability and

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looking for a primary display. For those folks, I really do think you'd be better

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off just holding the phone that you probably already have until something

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pops up on a local buy nothing group or

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if you could pick up something like a used monitor. Full HD units tend to go

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for about this price or in some cases

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even cheaper if you pick one up secondhand. And they're not that much

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smaller. They are smaller. Okay, they are smaller. But this is a classic like

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boots theory of economics situation where spending money on lowquality crap

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is going to cost you more in the long run. And even though this thing looks

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fine today, I have serious doubts about how long it'll last. Yeah. Any of our

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TVs, we're not going to be doing long-term testing. So, nothing is

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necessarily a recommendation. >> Did you lift it?

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>> Oh, yeah. It weighs like nothing at all. Nothing at all.

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>> You're sure this is 720p, right? Like it's not bad. That's what it's

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advertised as. >> Now, let's see what happens when we decouple our budget and pick up the 55

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R4C5. This is nuts. I mean, if you told

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teenage me that he could buy a 55 in 4K

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TV for $300, he would have immediately

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dropped his discman, shattered his hybrid Theory CD, and sprinted to the

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local Future Shop. I mean, sure, it's a pretty basic LCD panel, so don't expect

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a great HDR experience, but we have not

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only tripled our total screen area, we

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have also jumped to a whopping 80 pixels per inch, which is going to result in a

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much sharper image. We're also getting one of the better smart TV

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implementations with Roku builtin, which

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is a bit of a hot take now that it's clear how much of your data they're

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stealing. >> Yeah, but everyone's stealing your data. >> Yes. And unlike Tyizen OS, which also

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advertises to on top of stealing your data, at least Roku is somewhat pleasant

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to navigate. Hold for 5 seconds. Now that is clear instructions.

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>> Yeah. TV much bigger. Is it doing >> pairing process?

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>> Now this is a TV that I could get behind spending $300 on. Oh, did we just give

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Roku a pass for being like kind of awful? I forgot about this part. You

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cannot use this TV without an account. Roku, go yourself. Also doesn't

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have a source button. >> Is there a home button, though? >> No input button.

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>> Yeah, that is annoying. No, we can't seem to reach you at Roku. Sucks.

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>> Please activate in the next 30 minutes. Wait. Oh,

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>> what? >> I have to select stupid apps on my phone.

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>> Oh, CBC gem. Let's go.

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>> Setup complete. >> Was there a minimum amount that you had to select as well? No. Could select

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zero. Okay. maximizing fun factor.

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>> Okay, this is just joking around. >> Oh, I thought you were pointing at how many apps are on it. That's why they

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didn't have to have me select any. They preloaded 44 on my behalf. Back didn't

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go back to home. >> Oh, that is stupid. Why doesn't it just go back? >> Because it's Apple logic. Wherever I

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just came from. >> Take me there. >> Take me there. >> That's why it's called the back button.

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>> I thought it was cuz baby got it. >> That's >> like the last set. We've got three

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HDMIs. one with ER as well as optical audio, but we actually lose the 3 and a

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half millimeter jack. We get a coax jack, an Ethernet port, and a type-C USB

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port. Why is it so damn hard to just find the input? They don't want you to

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use anything but the TV. TV inputs.

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>> It's so buried, too. Why is it down here? HDMI mode. No, just I just I want

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to use it. What's the rocket ship button? Quick launch. Hold to change

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this shortcut. >> Change it to an input button. >> I'm going to try. You got to be kidding

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me. >> You can change it so it goes to the Roku channel, though.

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Okay, home. It's Maybe it's down here somewhere. Oh my god, it's below the

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fold on the home screen. That is some passive aggressive level I

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just want you to use the TV. >> Okay, so movie is just warmer. Wow, this

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is actually pretty well configured out of the box.

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>> Y >> not bad anti-glare. Not great. >> It's not amazing, but like it's totally

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usable. Oh, very usable. >> I think we just didn't notice the anti-glare coating on the previous TV

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because of how small.

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>> This is a wild take. >> Hold on. >> Was the last one brighter? Because I

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think it was. >> This one. >> Oh, and the gamma handling is like bad.

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>> The problem with having all of these like dynamic contrast enhancer and other

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settings like that >> Yeah. >> is it's not going to look amazing until

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you find the right setting for it. I mean, it's only on like low.

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>> I know, but turn it up to high. >> You're going to get less color accuracy,

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but it'll probably be a brighter image that most people are going to prefer. >> Oh, hold on. We're in dark HDR,

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>> which is the most accurate, I will say.

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>> The bright one looks horrible. Standard

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looks a little poppier, >> but look, everything in the back is

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crushed. It's all crushed. This is not supposed to look like this.

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the last one. >> I know, but it also wasn't trying to do HDR at all. But my point of comparison

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is a $30 TV that make Look how bad that

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looks. The entire right side of the frame is just black.

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>> Maybe don't use HDR on a TV that's not meant for HDR.

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>> I didn't advertise it as HDR. >> I know when available. Okay, sure.

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>> Okay, I can turn off HDR.

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>> I would take this over the last image. >> I would too. >> 100%. Not even close. This is why you

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don't get an HDR TV that just says HDR

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and then play HDR content on it. You need >> full local dimming.

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>> Full array local dimming, which is only going to come in miniLEDD or OLED.

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>> Yeah, >> cuz microLED is not out yet. >> Well, not in consumer space

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>> at a price that anyone cares about. >> Definitely not at $300.

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>> Look how much better this is, though. >> It really is like everything in the background. You can still make it out.

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this. >> How are the speakers, though?

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I don't think they're even better than the last one. >> Not really. No. But like they're both

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okay. >> You can really tell what they've tuned for. Like right in the vocal range.

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>> Yeah. >> Everything else, don't worry about it. How was the lab's results?

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>> Not awful. >> We're getting a little over 200 nits in SDR, about 320 in HDR.

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>> Yeah. And that lack of brightness, even compared to our $35, $70 TV, you really

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see it. >> Yeah. Our color accuracy is not bad, both in SDR and HDR. And our latency is

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similar to the last TV. At 60 Hz, we're getting 5.2 milliseconds over our

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theoretical perfect. >> Very usable. Something to note, by the way, is we made these purchases before

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Black Friday, so these aren't even necessarily the best deals you can find.

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flipping wild. As for our TV, okay, it's

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10 times the price, but you are getting nine times the pixels and in my humble

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opinion, other benefits that I think clock it in at over 10 times the

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enjoyment. >> Yeah, as much as certain things weren't that much better.

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>> Yeah, the speakers. Wow. >> But the size and resolution alone,

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>> without question, this is the bang for the buck Goldilocks right here. Of

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course, that doesn't make it absolute cinema either. What happens if we 10x

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our budget again? Wo, that's bigger TV.

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Damn, what a glorious beast you are. The

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Samsung S85F83 in. We're calling this our $3,000 TV,

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but we got an absolute steal of a deal on it, and so can you. Just like how a

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savvy shopper avoids buying an iPhone in August, savvy TV buyers can follow the

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industry's predictable cycle to get amazing deals. See, the new models

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usually get announced in January, then they land in the spring or the summer.

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That means that when fall rolls around, the discounts come out to play, and you

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can often get something that hasn't even been replaced yet for significantly less

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money. Because of this, we got an 83in

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OLED for under our budget at just $2500.

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And it's packed with all kinds of features that you would expect on a

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high-end freaking giant freaking OLED, like four HDMI ports. It's worth noting,

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by the way, that as good as this thing is, it did have a pretty serious

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challenger. >> Yeah, the LG C5 also had an 83in model

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for sale, but it was $3,200, >> so it's over our budget, but according

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to ratings, I mean, it's the better TV. >> Well, before we say that, why don't we

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fire this up? >> Sure. >> Wow, this thing is a monster.

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it's not quite the top end model. >> Well, yeah, but like

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this size yet. >> Thank you for choosing Smart Things. Did

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I choose Smart Things or did I have Smart Things jammed down my throat? Why

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is it so trendy to put so few freaking buttons on your remote? Does this not

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have an input button either? >> It doesn't. Neither does my S95B at

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home. They >> So offensive. >> You go to the home menu and then you go

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to connected devices and then you go from there. does charge on solar though.

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>> Yeah. And it's got USBC on the bottom, too. >> Okay. So, I open this app. Oh my god.

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Location. The You need my location for >> Does it want you to tap that button on

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the remote? >> Oh, wait. Did I not have to do any of

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this? I can just click TO THE RIGHT. WO.

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dark pattern. >> That's wild. It happens to the best of us. The right navigation button being

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how to advance through the menus is not how that works on any interface in the

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history of computing. This is the confirm button. These buttons are

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navigation buttons. >> Right means forward and go within a left

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to right. >> Not not in Japan. Let's start. All

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right. >> Connect to Wi-Fi. This is pretty standard. >> This is fine. And thank you for the

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quarterty keyboard. Okay. Enjoy a wide range of smart features.

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>> Can you just hit next? Can you skip? >> I can. >> Okay. >> But then it just prompts me to sign in

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>> later. >> Oh, >> it gave us a later option. Even this.

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>> Do it later. Do all this stuff later. >> I mean, this this is kind of cool.

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>> Yeah, this is neat. The adapt the volume stuff. Sure. >> Yeah, I'll enable that now. Turned up

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our brightness. It knows we're in a bright room. Hey, this is nice. You can

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use your smart remote to control your screen and connected devices. It just picked up everything. Explore your

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favorite content quickly and easily. A bunch of Christmas movies like Die Hard.

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>> We're actually not that inundated with ads. >> I mean, these are all ads. It is

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literally all ads, though. >> I know, but they're like >> They're all ads,

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>> but they're like movies I might want to watch. >> Picture clarity off. Wow, that was

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actually very simple to do within this little quick menu here. Live translate.

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customization? >> It's the mode that best suits your viewing environment. I don't know.

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>> You know what? AI optimizer panel care. >> This is our first OLED. And while they

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don't burn in to nearly anywhere close to like plasmas or early OLEDs, you

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should still probably enable all of the panel health. This is something that has

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driven me crazy about HDR TVs since the advent of HDR TVs. Why is this grayed

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out? It's grayed out because there's no HDR content active.

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>> So what? >> Let me change the settings. >> Let me just set it up. I have to choose

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a film for >> Go to connected devices. Go to our NVIDIA Shield.

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>> I'm on it. >> It should power it on, too. Yeah, there it goes. >> There we go. CEC, baby.

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>> Shout out. $20 versus $20,000 projector.

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That video is coming soon, too. >> $200,000 projector.

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>> $2,000. >> $200,000. >> He found a whole higher gear than you.

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Are you going to take that? >> I can't find a 300. Actually, you know what? We probably could find a $300,000

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TV if we got a micro LED. >> Subscribe for all of that nonsense.

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Where are all my picture modes that aren't AI optimized? I don't understand

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what's happening right now. >> I don't know either. Ew, the motion

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smoothing is back on. Why can't I turn film mode on? Where the hell is my

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filmmaker mode? Is it because I enabled AI optimization during setup? I'm

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factory resetting it. I'm going to not tell it do AI things this time.

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>> Okay. >> I should 100% be able to change a

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setting like that after the fact, though. And it should be obvious. I'm so

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pissed off at this point. Hey,

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what was that before? So, don't use AI.

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Whatever. I don't know. But now we can actually change our picture modes

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properly. >> Okay, >> which we should have been able to do.

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>> Now that we're finally here, this is far and away the best looking image we've

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seen. >> Yeah, >> it's incredible that we had to go through that much hassle in order to get

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here. >> But that could have been user error during TV setup.

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>> Look how bright this thing gets, though. >> Yeah, >> in SDR it definitely doesn't get very

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bright, but in HDR, >> but that's that's normal.

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>> It's not supposed to. >> That's fine. I like a popped out like

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tonemapped SDR actually. >> Yeah, >> but it's not supposed to. But in HDR,

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>> it's good. We're getting over 800 nits, which isn't as much as the flagship.

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We're not cracking a,000, but like >> on an OLED, >> good enough for me. And now we're

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getting full array local dimming per pixel. >> Show me those fireworks.

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this is packed with features that we didn't have on our previous sets. 120 Hz

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4K, variable refresh rate, auto low latency mode, very low latency, I would

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assume. I haven't seen the Labs test results. >> It's an OLED. And I'll tell you right

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now, it's pretty good. >> All right. And how's the color accuracy?

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>> That makes sense. >> Yeah, it's OLED. >> Oh, we haven't listened to the speakers

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>> They're not that much better than the 55 in TV. In terms of clarity, I would

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agree with you, but they manage that clarity across a greater range.

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>> Sure, if all you care about is you want to hear the news anchor on Fox or CNN or

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whichever only source of news you choose to consume, then any of them is going to

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achieve it pretty much the same. But if I was going to watch a musical, I would

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prefer to watch it on these speakers. or

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having spent this much money, >> yeah, >> I would spend the rest of my $500 on a

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nice soundbar or a surround sound setup or or a delightful RGB sweater from

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ltstore.com. Would you love having 10 times more to spend on your TV? I would

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love that. Then why don't we go take a look at our last display? It's so big we

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couldn't transport it here, so we got to go to the lab.

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Here we are. And here is the High Sense

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116UX. This puppy is pure bragging rights at 10

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times the price and nearly twice the area of the 83in TV that we just looked

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at. Five times the cost for two times

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the size. Yes, sir. See, this bad boy

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gets hit with a double whammy of price boosters. First, it uses a brand new

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emerging backlight technology called RGB Miniledd. Instead, white lights or blue

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ones. The back lights on this TV are multicolored for the widest color gamut

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that we have ever measured in the lab. You can see it in action in this high

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sense factory tour that we're going to have linked down below. The second

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whammy is mother glass. Now, some of you may be familiar with this. Give yourself

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a cookie. But for everyone else, every smaller TV comes from a giant sheet of

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what's called motherlass. that mother glass gets cut down into the smaller

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panels. Now, as mother glass sizes have gone up with each generation of TV

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production, so have the sizes of the displays that you can cut out of it. But

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the prices for the top sizes in each generation remain very high because they

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could have taken that single sheet and they could have cut it up into a whole

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bunch of 55 in or 65-in TVs. Also, when

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you're cutting smaller pieces out, it's a lot easier to salvage usable displays

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out of an imperfect sheet. Say you had a bad spot here. Well, you just make one

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of these and one of these and one of these. No big deal. When you're making

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one giant TV, well, the entire sheet has

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to basically be perfect, which just doesn't happen very often, even under

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the best conditions. I've heard that the yields are so poor on these that even

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large multinational brands will make dozens or at most hundreds of these

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signature flagship products. So, they got to make sure that the juice is going

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to be worth the squeeze. And then you've got to decide if your wallet can take

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the squeeze and also your back because moving and installing something this big

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is a major hassle. And it only has three HDMI ports. But that's actually cool

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because its last input is a USB-C port

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that handles DisplayPort in. Also, those HDMIs will do up to 165 Hz at 4K.

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Let's give it a shot. We have literally done this before and yet it still stuns.

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The small white setup is just so bright.

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Dazzling. Welcome to our new theater room. By the way, we built this in the

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lab so we don't have to always drag things to and from my house. How bright

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is this thing again? >> Almost 7,000 nits.

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>> That's wild. It'll even do 5,000 nits in SDR. So, you end up with a very HDR-l

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like effect even on your older content. Oh, wait. This is already set up from

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last time. >> Forget the setup. Whatever. >> At what point?

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At what point is it too much? >> I've talked about this before. I don't

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think it can be too much until we reach the point where it looks like real life.

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You know, if you're on the bus and the sun catches the glass on a skyscraper,

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>> it can be eye searing. >> It can be very bright. I want bright to

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look bright, not white, you know. Does it have an input button? Yes. Oh,

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>> 30 grand. That's what it takes to buy an input button. >> Also, shout out Highense. They have

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proper on and off for universal remotes

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instead of just power toggle which can be important for getting everything

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aligned in there shutting down and turning off. Ah, menu. Thank you. Apply

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to all sources. Thank you. Oh, we decided we liked the dynamic color

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enhancer on this one, didn't we? I think on low or medium. Yeah, not on high.

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It's only $30,000.

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>> Yeah, that's a big point we didn't mention last time is Samsung is still

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stuck with HDR10 and 10 Plus. They do not support Dolby Vision, whereas High

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Sense has seen fit to implement both. And that's not just on their $30,000

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sets. Samsung's got to get it together on that, man. This is the first TV that

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4K content looks not quite sharp enough. >> I was thinking that, too, cuz the PPI we

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are looking at >> It's lower, isn't it? It's This is lower

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than the 32 in 720p TV. We are getting

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just about 38 PPI or pixels per inch. >> Nice.

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>> It It definitely looks low res even though it's not. But

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that's our fault. That's not the TVs. >> Yeah, we're just sitting too close. >> Way too close.

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>> God, it's beautiful. >> Yeah, the color is just incredible.

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>> The brightness cuz it's not just the color range. It's the color volume. You

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need brightness to really make HDR content pop off the screen. And this has

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it in spades. This isn't even like that crazy bright of a mastered film either.

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>> No, >> but it's still TV gets so bright still.

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>> And it's pretty darn accurate, too. The streamers, they look so good.

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>> And as much as we might have complained because there's only like 3500 local

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dimming zones, realistically, it still looks really good, especially compared

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to just about any other TV. >> Yeah. It just happened to be next to one

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that had way more dimming zones, but I can see the I know. Me, too. Hair there.

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>> The next generation of this. >> Oh, yeah. Boom.

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>> This is the closest to looking at actual fireworks that we've been.

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>> We didn't quite measure the 95% to BT2020 they claimed, but I think we hit

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like 92 or 93%. >> 93 and change.

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>> It was It was really close. >> It does have other downsides though.

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While the input latency is very good, the pixel response times are not. So,

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gaming on this set can be a little smeary looking, especially when you've

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got high contrast action on the screen. I was pretty disappointed in that. With

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that said, though, the speakers are a strong point.

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Damn, >> they're still TV speakers, but they're

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way better than all the other TVs we tried. Yes. But at this budget,

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you should get standalone speakers. Oh yeah. I mean, at this point, I feel like

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I'm talking to literally several people. But if you have this kind of budget, and

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if you are looking at your various options, OLED Mother Glass has also been

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getting bigger over the years. And LG now has a 97in G5 for about $25,000. It

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is smaller and when a regular TV that

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size can be had for just a few thousand, it's kind of a hard sell. But that one

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is probably the largest display on the market that manages truly peak flagship

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image quality for the discerning cinnaphile. If you're keen on that or

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