WEBVTT 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:10.120 Where do you think you're going? 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:16.430 Get over here. Get this jack. Come on. Come. [music] 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:25.039 Why would you be carrying a remote like this? [music] >> Watching. >> Don't be a wise guy. What are you 00:00:22.400 --> 00:00:32.880 watching with a universal remote? >> Name it. DVD, Blu-ray, laser disc, 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:34.640 everything. Well, almost everything. 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:37.600 >> We tracked [music] down nearly every single home movie format for the last 50 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:43.230 years, >> alongside 10 copies of one of the only 00:00:41.040 --> 00:00:49.840 films that's available across every [music] single one of them, Rambo First 00:00:46.239 --> 00:00:52.480 Blood. This is my knife. Yeah, we better 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:55.520 make our way back to the studio. Okay. Oh, but [music] not until we tell them 00:00:54.480 --> 00:01:00.800 about our sponsor. >> Many have tried to learn the ancient 00:00:58.160 --> 00:01:05.920 power [music] of coding, and many have failed, for they knew not the shest 00:01:04.320 --> 00:01:08.920 path. boat boot.dev. 00:01:12.050 --> 00:01:14.070 [music] 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:25.600 We'll be going chronologically, which means we'll be starting with everyone's 00:01:20.960 --> 00:01:26.560 darling, Betamax, which uh yeah, hey, 00:01:25.600 --> 00:01:32.079 doesn't look too good. >> I think if we take away the anomalies 00:01:28.880 --> 00:01:33.840 aside, it looks uh okay. I think it 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:36.799 looks about on par with VHS. Maybe a little better. >> You're right. That does help, 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:41.840 >> you know. Yeah, that's right. Um unfortunately, we ran through three different tapes and the third one was 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:44.640 looking really good until the tape snapped. >> Oh, shoot. 00:01:42.960 --> 00:01:48.240 >> Yeah. No, there's nothing there. It's just gone. >> That's just [music] the reality of the 00:01:46.320 --> 00:01:51.920 situation, though. I mean, these early formats were not designed to last 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:57.360 forever. They were very analog, and they've all been slowly breaking down 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:59.520 over the last, in this case, 40 years 00:01:57.360 --> 00:02:04.320 due to humidity, uh, temperature changes, uh, magnetization loss, and the 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:09.360 three-layer binding can apparently come undone. Uh, lube can dry up. It's 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:12.879 impossible to save these forever without digitization. 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:17.680 Fortunately, there will be plenty of that to go around later. As for the 00:02:15.040 --> 00:02:23.920 format, Betamax was developed by Sony and actually beat VHS to market by about 00:02:20.160 --> 00:02:27.040 a year, but ultimately lost what we 00:02:23.920 --> 00:02:29.120 could say is the first major format war. 00:02:27.040 --> 00:02:33.200 The footage was higher quality, but you could only fit about an hour per tape, 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:37.040 so lower quality longplay ones came out later to fit full movies into a single 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:40.879 session. Kind of like Beta's uh subversive little brother, VHS. We might 00:02:39.440 --> 00:02:45.200 as well move on to that at this point because as much as beta might have 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:49.599 looked better back then, it sure doesn't today. >> Well, I'll tell you this. Overall, I 00:02:47.519 --> 00:02:52.560 actually think it's on par with VHS, maybe a little nicer. 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:54.720 >> You're not wrong where it looks good, >> right? It looks okay. >> Does look good. 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:57.840 >> Yeah, >> that was a pretty cool stunt considering [music] they did everything practically 00:02:57.440 --> 00:03:03.840 back then. >> Yeah, it's a great movie. >> I've never seen it. >> You're about to watch [laughter] it 10 00:03:01.519 --> 00:03:08.000 times. >> All right, VHS, baby. 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:11.280 >> Okay, VHS. Oh, you know what? I wonder if you need different outputs. You 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.840 shouldn't. Should just work off the same one. >> Oh, 00:03:12.640 --> 00:03:17.599 >> Svideo out. >> Did we go get an Svideo cable for 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:21.599 nothing? Because it doesn't even support Svideo on the VHS player side. 00:03:19.777 --> 00:03:27.200 [groaning] >> Is that what happened? >> It says DVD only. 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:31.760 >> Oh, balls. Here's the thing. We wanted to use the Svideo output on this player 00:03:29.440 --> 00:03:36.640 in order to give VHS a fair shake against Betamax, but this is probably 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:44.640 more realistic anyway since most VCRs used a simple composite hookup. 00:03:40.480 --> 00:03:46.400 Ah, that takes me back. [laughter] 00:03:44.640 --> 00:03:49.879 And if you're over 30, it'll probably do the same for you. 00:03:51.760 --> 00:03:59.040 That's the good sound. That's how you know the machine's working. Machines don't make noise anymore. And there we 00:03:56.640 --> 00:04:04.000 go. Someone forgot to rewind. >> Classic. See, before the advent of 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:08.239 digital media, employees at video rental stores and unlucky younger brothers 00:04:06.239 --> 00:04:13.760 would spend an awful lot of time waiting around to rewind the tape before a movie 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:18.079 could be enjoyed or well, at least viewed. I'm enjoying this. Doesn't look 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:21.440 as good as its modern-day counterparts. But I think that's something we kind of 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:24.639 forget a lot is that like when this was the only thing available, it looked fine 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:27.840 and no one no one thought about like we'd watch movies at home all the time. >> This has even held up reasonably 00:04:27.280 --> 00:04:34.000 decently. >> Yeah, >> it only has 240 lines of luminance 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:40.560 resolution and only usually stereo sound. But despite these drawbacks and 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:42.800 the high initial cost, VHS was the clear 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:46.720 and undisputed winner of the first great format war. Bringing movies from the big 00:04:44.960 --> 00:04:52.639 screen at your local theater to the small, very small screen in your home. 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:55.120 >> Yeah, this is huge for CRT standards to be very clear. 00:04:53.360 --> 00:05:00.080 >> Yeah, to its credit, the tape has held up pretty okay. Which reminds me, so did 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:03.600 VHS as a format. >> 29 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:08.560 years. That's the time from the introduction to the last Hollywood 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:11.600 release in 2006. It's almost as old as me. All the colors look pretty muted. 00:05:10.400 --> 00:05:14.000 We're probably only get I don't even know how much of like sRGB we're 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:21.680 getting. >> But for a long time, if you wanted movie at home, it was this or watch on cable 00:05:19.280 --> 00:05:28.479 with probably worse image quality, not to mention endless commercials and often 00:05:24.400 --> 00:05:30.560 the uh best parts edited out. 00:05:28.479 --> 00:05:33.440 >> Mr. Falcon, >> there's not much more to say. Like it's 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.960 got a lot of grain to it. >> Yeah. >> Like I would watch this. 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:40.320 >> Like if I went to someone's house and they had a VHS playing and this was like 00:05:39.039 --> 00:05:44.080 I'd sit down and watch this movie. >> Yeah. Why not? >> I wouldn't complain about it. >> You'd complain? 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:48.240 >> No. I probably wouldn't. >> Really? Yeah. >> Not a single complaint? >> No. Cuz it's not my house. 00:05:47.039 --> 00:05:52.479 >> Okay. You'd complain at your own house. >> Oh, 100%. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Just making sure I 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:56.960 understand where you're at. [laughter] >> You want to try laser disc next? 00:05:54.720 --> 00:06:03.120 >> Yes. It may have never gained widespread popularity in the west, but laser disc 00:05:59.440 --> 00:06:07.759 existed alongside VHS and arguably was 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:11.280 superior in every measurable way. 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:13.120 Like, look at this convenience. Also, I 00:06:11.280 --> 00:06:19.440 can measure how much I can store on one side. >> Listen, at my age, I see midmov bathroom 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:22.240 breaks as an absolute win. Uh oh, which side am I on? 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:25.840 >> Yeah. Damn it. >> We're 100% keeping that in. I think it's 00:06:25.039 --> 00:06:30.960 this one. >> Does it have labels? >> Yeah, but I can't remember if the label 00:06:29.280 --> 00:06:34.080 you want the label to be up or the label to be down. >> Yeah. And it actually varied from one 00:06:32.880 --> 00:06:40.080 player to another. >> Yeah. What an incredible format. >> We did a deeper dive a couple of years 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:45.280 ago, but the TLDDR is laser disc made its first appearance in 1978 as Disco 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:49.600 Vision. And like compact discs, it uses tiny 00:06:47.919 --> 00:06:54.160 pits and lands that are etched into the surface to store media and a laser to 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:58.000 read the pattern. Unlike CDs in future disc based formats, however, the 00:06:56.080 --> 00:07:02.080 encoding of the movie was actually analog, >> which is pretty cool. 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:07.360 >> It's pretty Yeah, it's a mix of technologies. We're at that like weird threshold where it goes from being 00:07:05.840 --> 00:07:13.680 analog to digital. >> It's lasers. >> Yeah. Discal. 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:17.840 Laser disc. It's [music] going It just takes a hot second. Side B. You put that 00:07:16.880 --> 00:07:22.639 key in. >> At least it tells you before it even does anything, though. 00:07:20.080 --> 00:07:26.639 >> Widescreen, baby. Widecreen's cool and all. 00:07:24.400 --> 00:07:31.199 >> I never liked it back when I had a 4x3 display though. >> No, it looks terrible on It's You just 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:34.479 get It's so much less screen space. But >> our screens were so small. 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:37.680 >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is a big CRT. Imagine on like a tiny one. Oh, 00:07:36.880 --> 00:07:41.440 yeah. It'd be terrible. >> Yeah. >> There's definitely more resolution. >> Oh, yeah. 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:46.800 >> There's definitely more resolution. >> Literally twice as much. >> Yeah. But like the the rest of the 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:49.120 quality of the image, it doesn't look that much better than VHS. 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:53.280 >> The color's better. >> Color's better. But if I saw like a 00:07:51.599 --> 00:07:57.199 laser disc in someone's home theater and then I went home and watched the same 00:07:54.720 --> 00:08:00.960 movie on my VCR, I I don't think I'd go out and buy a laser disc player. 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:02.160 >> You're also not watching it on a big screen, though. 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:07.039 >> Sure. >> And VHS falls apart on a larger display. 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:11.039 >> It really does. It really [music] does. Even those big uh rip projection TVs. 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:14.560 And given that folks with bigger screens probably had bigger sound systems, 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:19.360 they'd have also gotten a benefit out of the fact that laser disc was the first 00:08:17.280 --> 00:08:21.919 popular home movie format to support surround sound. 00:08:20.400 --> 00:08:25.280 >> Wow. >> Including Rambo First Blood. 00:08:23.520 --> 00:08:30.080 >> Okay, that's actually a pretty genuine reason to buy this over a VCR. 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:35.919 >> And there were other benefits, too. Laser Disc also got arguably the best 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:39.599 releases of many classic films thanks to their unique edits or bonus features 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:44.080 that can't be found elsewhere. >> Unfortunately, due to high costs and uh 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:48.399 being limited to about 60 minutes of content per side, it never really caught 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:51.440 on and took off in the West. Outside of, you know, your favorite karaoke bar or 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:55.839 maybe your rich uncle's home theater. >> Hear me out. Hear me out. What if you 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:59.839 like the quality of VHS with the inconvenience of laser disc? You get the 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:04.366 CED video disc player >> wrapped in one overly fragile package. 00:09:02.346 --> 00:09:08.800 [laughter] >> Trying to remember how to work it. 00:09:06.640 --> 00:09:12.000 >> It's in the load and unload position. Now you just put it in. You put You use 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:15.200 the caddy and you pop it in. >> Yeah. >> Keep going. Keep going. It goes all the 00:09:13.680 --> 00:09:18.880 way in pretty much. Okay. Now it should be locked. Now pull the caddy out. And if we're lucky, it worked. 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:28.320 >> Nice. >> It's out. Hey, >> this format. Oh, there it [laughter] 00:09:22.880 --> 00:09:31.120 goes again. I forgot how bad it is. 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:36.000 This format also competed head-to-head in the same era as VHS, Betamax, and 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:41.600 Laser Disc. They're so cool. I made a whole video on them. Too bad they 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:44.080 suck. Yeah. Basically, instead of pits 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:49.200 and lands on a plastic disc being read by a laser, you know, like all of the 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:54.480 sensible disc media, they used a vinyl disc with a stylus that measures the 00:09:52.000 --> 00:10:01.040 capacitance between the stylus tip and the disc as it rips around at 13 times 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.519 the RPM of a typical music vinyl record. It's an engineering marvel that it works 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:09.600 at all. >> Yeah, it's absolutely wild. All I can say for sure is it doesn't doesn't look 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:12.560 good right now, 30 years later. >> To its credit, other than the horrible 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:17.600 fringing. >> Yeah, look at the flag badges on there. >> The flag's a little rough. A 00:10:16.880 --> 00:10:23.360 >> little. >> And the color. >> Yeah, the color is not great. >> Other than all of those things. 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:27.120 >> It's operating okay right now. At least it like we saw that major skip a little 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:29.200 while ago, but it's been playing consistently for at least a couple 00:10:28.800 --> 00:10:33.440 minutes. >> Feel like you're jinxing it, >> right? I'm just The whole time I said 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:37.839 the sentence, I was waiting for it to just start skipping. [laughter] But yeah, this is not great. I would 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:43.839 take VHS [music] over this. >> Oh, yeah. Well, so did everyone. >> Yeah, so did everybody else. 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:47.040 >> In fairness, I mean, on that subject, repeated playback is hard on many media 00:10:45.920 --> 00:10:54.640 formats. Mhm. >> But because of the [music] physical contact between the stylus and the disc, 00:10:50.959 --> 00:10:57.920 RCA's estimated 500 plays was probably 00:10:54.640 --> 00:10:59.680 more fantasy than the 50 or so films 00:10:57.920 --> 00:11:03.120 that were available at launch. Unlike the rest of the formats we've looked at 00:11:01.040 --> 00:11:07.120 so far, pricing wasn't the issue. At around $500 for a player and 15 to $40 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:13.440 per movie, >> reasonable, >> but due to being trapped in development 00:11:09.839 --> 00:11:16.399 hell for over 15 years, this thing lost 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.959 the race and ultimately destroyed RCA before [laughter] it even began. 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:24.160 >> Kind of did. >> Our next stop is video CD. It's exactly 00:11:22.640 --> 00:11:30.480 what it sounds like, featuring a resolution of just 240 lines, but no 00:11:28.079 --> 00:11:35.200 inconvenient rewinding and much greater durability than VHS. What more could you 00:11:32.880 --> 00:11:39.519 ask for in 1987? Oh, I don't know, maybe more than 5 minutes of video per disc. 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:44.000 To their credit, the problem of digitizing and compressing video data 00:11:41.760 --> 00:11:50.959 was solved a few years later, and in 1993, VCD in its current form, which can 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:53.360 fit a film on just two discs, was born. 00:11:50.959 --> 00:11:58.959 Now, you probably think of VCD as a format for pirates, but for a short time 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:03.279 before writable CDs came out, Hollywood did release a handful of films on this 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.920 format. Here we go. Here we go. VCD got this. We got this. >> It even said VCD on the TV and 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:10.079 everything. >> Let's go. >> Copyright proprietor license has licensed the material. 00:12:09.040 --> 00:12:15.639 >> It's all spelled right. >> At what point can you tell that's 00:12:12.079 --> 00:12:15.639 Sylvester Stallone? 00:12:19.920 --> 00:12:25.360 Well, here >> now it's fine. Yeah, now you can see it's it's slide, but like 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:27.600 >> what's his name? He looked like a completely different guy. 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:33.040 >> Yeah, >> the entire lake is just >> Yeah. blown out. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] 00:12:32.079 --> 00:12:38.959 It's awful. >> There's no action yet either. >> No. >> The drawback of VCD is the super low bit 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:42.399 rate. We haven't even thrown a challenging seat at it yet. He looked 00:12:40.880 --> 00:12:45.920 more like Richard Simmons AT THE BEGINNING. >> OH, IT KIND OF DID. 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:49.279 >> That's what I was looking for. I could see this because of the hair, but 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:54.480 doesn't this just look awful? Like I've watched this intro multiple times in 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:56.399 like high definition and um you this 00:12:54.480 --> 00:13:00.320 looks fine normally. I'm not saying it looks amazing. It's definitely a film 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:04.560 filmed 40 years ago or whatever, but like look at how bad this looks. 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:08.160 >> The motion performance and the like digital blocking artifacts around 00:13:07.040 --> 00:13:13.760 anything that moves. >> Awful. >> Give me a VHS any day of the week. 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:17.360 >> 100% over this. Yeah, >> no question. This is rough, but hey, you 00:13:15.920 --> 00:13:23.200 know, the cases are smaller, so you could stack more movies in the same amount of physical space. 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:29.519 >> That's true. And it's not its only advantage. Despite kind of sucking, VCD 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:35.680 lived a long life, allegedly still being sold in Asia as recently as 2013. And it 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:37.920 even got a bunch of spin-offs. XVCD, for 00:13:35.680 --> 00:13:41.600 instance, uses variable bit rate to help save data in simpler scenes and then 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:47.839 improve image quality in more complex ones. >> At least I hope so. KVCD supported 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:50.160 higher resolutions or runtime. DVCD or 00:13:47.839 --> 00:13:52.560 double VCD was for longer movies that couldn't fit on a single disc. 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:58.800 >> That's what we've got today. >> Which would have been nice for and SVCD 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:02.000 or super VCD offered better image quality. Apparently almost on par with 00:14:00.880 --> 00:14:06.399 DVD, >> which we'll get to soon. But first, 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:13.199 let's take a look at yet another skeleton on VHS's road to world 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:14.959 domination. It's roided out cousin DVHS. 00:14:13.199 --> 00:14:18.720 This is another format that we've already covered in a previous video, but 00:14:16.800 --> 00:14:26.160 it's mind-blowing enough that I think it merits talking about again. I mean, high 00:14:21.199 --> 00:14:27.760 definition on tape back in 1994. 00:14:26.160 --> 00:14:32.320 How did I not know about this when I was a freaking kid? Well, for starters, it 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:36.480 wasn't commercially available until quite a bit later. And for another 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:40.399 thing, it was really expensive back then. >> And unfortunately for you, it's rare. 00:14:38.560 --> 00:14:45.199 So, it's still expensive today. >> Oh, cool. [laughter] Yeah, I know. Because the player we used 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:50.160 that time, uh, it started to eat the tapes as we were filming B-roll and so 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:56.160 we had to get a new one. Uh, we also had to get new tapes. Um, hopefully this one 00:14:53.360 --> 00:15:00.320 doesn't explode before we finish, but no guarantee. I tested it and watched it 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:05.120 footage. I know it works, but for how long? I can't say. [laughter] 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:08.399 Cool. Why did we change TVs? because this one uses FireWire for the copyright 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:14.079 protection >> and the only way we can get FireWire in 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:17.199 a modern display is with a plasma with a receiver that accompanies [music] it. 00:15:15.760 --> 00:15:23.519 >> So, not only did you need to shell out some big money for the player in the tapes, but you were also limited to a TV 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:26.720 or receiver that supported FireWire. >> Yeah. >> Like this sweet Pioneer Plasma. 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:30.880 >> Mhm. >> I should press play. >> You should. But it looks like actually 00:15:30.079 --> 00:15:35.360 really good. >> Yeah. Like there's a bit of noise in the image still. 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:39.600 >> It's fine. But this is the first format where I can distinguish film grain from 00:15:37.920 --> 00:15:42.000 crappy low resolution. >> Yeah, this is 1080i. 00:15:41.040 --> 00:15:46.399 >> It looks awesome. >> It really does. Like this is genuine HD. 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:49.839 His badge isn't looking all garbage like it did in most the other formats. You 00:15:47.920 --> 00:15:52.720 can actually see small details on things. All the bamboo shoots there. 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:56.000 Yeah. Like this actually looks really good. >> Really fast motion. You can catch that 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:59.519 it's >> interlaced and skin tones. 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:03.040 >> Oh, and the blacks. Like I was watching his pants walk across the cabinets back 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:06.560 there and I could actually see his pants against the cabinets. Like it had enough 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:10.320 range where I could differentiate the two materials. >> Dude, the color. 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:13.040 >> Yeah, it's pretty legit. His fist looks white like he's clenching it, you know, 00:16:11.680 --> 00:16:19.759 even though his face is all red cuz he's all angry and stuff. It's really upsetting that this came out as late as 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:22.720 it did to Holmes and that it cost as much as it did because like 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:27.600 >> this is amazing >> and this is factoring in that this is 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:30.399 still a tape based medium. Yeah, this has probably degraded. 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.759 >> It's really too bad that it stayed professional only for so long because by 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:38.800 the time it had come out in the very early 2000s, DVD had already cemented 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:41.120 itself as the future even though this looks better. 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:45.279 >> Better is an understatement. >> Oh yeah, we're going to do DVD next. And I bet it's going to be like a downgrade. 00:16:44.560 --> 00:16:50.399 >> Major. >> Like we're on a bigger screen, too. Like that's something that we really have to 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:55.120 stop and and mention is that like the size is massive compared to our CRT. And 00:16:52.800 --> 00:17:00.399 it looks way more detailed. It even had modern creature comforts like multiple 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:02.800 audio channels and chapter stops. 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:09.120 Unfortunately, it's chapter stops here as we move on to finally a new king. 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.720 After this parade of pretenders in March 00:17:09.120 --> 00:17:17.520 1997, the DVD or digital versatile disc, not 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:22.559 video, came to North America. If you were ignorant of the wonders of DVHS or 00:17:19.919 --> 00:17:28.160 laser disc, so if you were almost anyone, DVD was incredible. Not only was 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:34.960 the quality significantly higher than regular VHS at a whopping 480p thanks to 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:39.679 single layer discs holding 4.7 GB of data, but the discs were tiny compared 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:43.280 to VHS and laser disc, and they wouldn't wear out over multiple plays. Not only 00:17:41.600 --> 00:17:47.600 that, but it had cool features that were new to most people, like chapter 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:51.280 selection and on [music] disk extras that ranged from deleted scenes to 00:17:49.679 --> 00:17:54.640 bloopers to interactive games. >> I remember those. >> Yeah, they were actually really great. I 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:58.960 remember it was such a big deal. Like even this even the main menu it was it 00:17:57.280 --> 00:18:02.799 was like it was so cool cuz you went from renting a videape and putting it in 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:06.400 and just watching the movie to like all of a sudden, you know, you and your family watch the movie and then you 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:10.559 check out the deleted scenes after. You check out the bonus features. Like 00:18:08.080 --> 00:18:17.919 >> now early players were super expensive. Yeah, here's an ad from 1997 with ranges 00:18:13.120 --> 00:18:20.240 from [clears throat] $500 to $750, 00:18:17.919 --> 00:18:25.919 but that cost dropped massively as adoption ramped up. And in March of 00:18:22.320 --> 00:18:29.760 2000, the PlayStation 2 launched with 00:18:25.919 --> 00:18:32.559 DVD playback functionality at just $299. 00:18:29.760 --> 00:18:35.360 Wait, sorry. So, it's a game console and it's one of the cheapest DVD players on 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:40.559 the market. >> Hell yeah. >> What a move. Sony >> crushed it. 00:18:38.080 --> 00:18:44.720 >> Back to widescreen on the tiny TV. Yeah, >> not an upgrade. 00:18:41.840 --> 00:18:48.240 >> No, but 480p is technically better than what we were 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:52.880 looking at before. >> And we're using Svideo now, which was 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:56.080 much more common by the time DVT rolled around. [laughter] 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:59.480 >> It's like three steps forward, eight steps back. 00:18:59.760 --> 00:19:06.080 >> Okay. The color is a lot better though. Skin tones way better. 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:10.880 >> Yeah, but like I can barely see the mountain in the background. It's pretty much just part of the sky. 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:13.679 >> Exactly. Um, [laughter] and like the the lake still looks like super blown out. 00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:19.760 >> Um, >> and the buildings are just black. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like you said, to 00:19:17.760 --> 00:19:23.600 most people, this was a massive upgrade. >> Oh, yeah. Even just not having to be so 00:19:21.600 --> 00:19:28.160 careful with them and not being so bulky. >> You can fit like five DVDs in the same 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:34.559 space. You could fit one VHS. >> Yeah. I actually remember watching The Matrix on DVD back in 2000 when my uncle 00:19:32.080 --> 00:19:40.640 uh got his first like big 5.1 surround sound home theater system. DVD was brand 00:19:37.600 --> 00:19:42.080 new. It looked and sounded absolutely 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:45.440 incredible. And that's like when my first introduction to hi-fi was kind of 00:19:43.840 --> 00:19:48.160 starting and when I actually got into like things can look better than what 00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:52.080 I've been watching. >> And all these years later, now you own a display. 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:56.960 >> Several. In fact, >> DVDs are even still being produced and 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:59.120 sold with major releases priced at roughly the same as their Blu-ray 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:03.520 counterparts. >> Astonishing. It's really amazing that 00:20:01.760 --> 00:20:08.640 these are still being created and used today, especially when you consider that 00:20:05.679 --> 00:20:12.559 both formats have coexisted for nearly 20 years. 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:17.360 >> It really is decent enough. >> 100%. >> The only reason I'm unhappy right now is 00:20:15.600 --> 00:20:20.880 because I just watched DVHS. >> Yeah, we know what's better and we've 00:20:19.679 --> 00:20:27.760 seen what's better. Whereas like for most people, this massive upgrade. I I we just can't say it enough. Like it was 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:29.600 incredible going from VHS >> to DVD 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:34.880 >> to DVD. It really was. >> And it was such a big step that I felt 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:38.240 like a lot of the people I knew just felt like DVD was good enough. Totally 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:42.080 >> to the point where when Blu-ray came out, they were like, 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:48.159 >> I Yeah, it's kind of funny, but that's really true. Like it's probably why it survived for so long is cuz it was 00:20:45.919 --> 00:20:50.640 >> It wasn't until our TVs got so much bigger that this mattered. 00:20:50.080 --> 00:20:56.320 >> Yeah. True. >> That this was problematic at all. >> Yeah. Cuz even back in 2000, like TVs 00:20:54.080 --> 00:21:00.240 were only starting to get into like 50in ranges commonly. And even that even 50 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:04.159 was like pretty big unless it was rear projection. >> And that was fuzzy rear projection 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:08.640 generally speaking. >> Yeah. >> We can't get to Blu-ray yet though because I promised we'd do this 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:12.720 chronologically. And you know what came out just a few months earlier? Good old 00:21:11.280 --> 00:21:17.520 HD DVD. >> Are you actually nostalgic for it? 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:22.880 >> No. I've actually never watched an HD DVD and I thought it stood for 00:21:19.919 --> 00:21:25.600 highdeinition DVD. It's actually high density DVD. 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:31.919 >> The more you know. I've never experienced this either. So, I'm actually a little excited. That's it. 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:37.440 That's the extra standalone player. >> It's the size of the Xbox. [laughter] 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:42.960 >> Developed by Toshiba, highdensity DVD was over three times the capacity of 00:21:39.919 --> 00:21:45.280 regular DVD at 15 gigs per layer. And 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:50.240 like Blu-ray, it used a blue laser with a shorter wavelength. But how was the 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:55.280 quality? It looks pretty damn good, though. Of course, it's this should 00:21:51.919 --> 00:21:57.360 still be like 1080p. You know, the 00:21:55.280 --> 00:22:01.600 actual quality by comparison was pretty similar between the two formats. It was 00:21:59.760 --> 00:22:06.400 really just the storage capacity was kind of the major factor. We're also 00:22:03.360 --> 00:22:08.240 using a much more modern display here. 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:12.559 >> Yeah, we've upgraded to an OLED, which we know is not apples to apples, but if 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:16.960 you got HDMI, [music] you might as well flaunt it. >> Yeah, 00:22:13.840 --> 00:22:19.200 >> the resolution is just so much better. 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:24.880 But you know what? I will say it felt a little more filmic looking on DVHS. 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:29.679 >> Yeah, more organic. And this one the mastering isn't as good, I think, cuz if 00:22:27.120 --> 00:22:32.640 like we might see it here, that mountain still I can barely see it. And this is 00:22:31.919 --> 00:22:37.440 an OLED with >> better than DVD. >> Better than DVD, but not as good as 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:40.320 DVHS. I think the DVHS was mastered a little better again. It's kind of crazy 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:43.120 cuz we we we said the same things when we did the video on it, watching the 00:22:41.919 --> 00:22:46.159 hurricane on it. >> How good is DVHS? >> It's amazing. 00:22:45.360 --> 00:22:49.440 >> Bring it back. >> We're bringing it back. We've got a player right there. We're gonna buy more 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:54.240 movies, right? >> No. >> And then hang out in your theater room and watch TVHS tick. 00:22:52.720 --> 00:23:00.159 >> No. [laughter] >> Even the house though. I'm looking there again and the shadows. You can still see 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:03.600 all the like staining from the natural um like moss and lykan and stuff 00:23:01.840 --> 00:23:07.440 building up on the the grungginess of it. >> You can tell they really lifted up the 00:23:06.159 --> 00:23:11.520 shadows a lot. >> I was just thinking that on his left side you can like it's not nearly as 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:16.799 dark as it was before. >> And especially compared to the previous formats where his skin tones were so 00:23:15.679 --> 00:23:19.520 red. Yeah. >> Now they're almost sickly looking or 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:23.520 almost green. >> Yeah, almost. >> Obviously, you could run into the same 00:23:21.919 --> 00:23:28.880 issues with color grading on a Blu-ray, though. So, why did HDD DVD fail? 00:23:26.320 --> 00:23:32.640 >> Well, failing is relative. It got more movie releases than video disc. Okay. 00:23:31.520 --> 00:23:39.120 And [laughter] it sold about 3/4 of a million players, 00:23:35.840 --> 00:23:40.320 including the Xbox 360 add-on. But, 00:23:39.120 --> 00:23:46.400 yeah, you know, considering the development cost, >> it's a giant failure. Um, and it's not 00:23:44.080 --> 00:23:47.600 because the HD DVD was bad. Look, this looks pretty good. 00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:54.960 >> It's great. >> It's because the competition was better. >> Now, a lot of people liken the Blu-ray 00:23:51.760 --> 00:23:58.320 versus HD DVD format wars to the older 00:23:54.960 --> 00:24:00.400 VHS and beta battle. And the rumor was 00:23:58.320 --> 00:24:06.240 that the winner was chosen in the same way by the adult entertainment industry. 00:24:03.600 --> 00:24:11.520 But realistically, there was more to it than that. Development by the BDA or 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:18.046 Blu-ray Disc Association began as far back as 2001. And when Blu-ray launched 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:20.320 in late June of 2006, it did so with a 00:24:18.046 --> 00:24:25.600 [music] vastly superior capacity to anything at the time. Even the single 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:32.240 layer discs made HD DVD sound more like half density DVD with 25 gigs. And then 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:38.480 dual layer 50 gig discs came just a few months later, enabling even lengthy full 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:41.279 1080p HD films to fit on a single piece 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:46.240 of plastic. And that's with highfidelity multi- channelannel audio and extras 00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:50.320 galore. Wow. Now that's a menu. 00:24:47.679 --> 00:24:55.200 >> Look at this. Normally I'm the one who's over the top on camera. [laughter] By 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:59.840 the way, was this intentional? I just I just noticed looking at the thing we're 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:01.279 both that I love this sweater. I love 00:24:59.840 --> 00:25:06.480 the the lilac, too. >> Available now. ltstore.com. 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:07.200 >> This is still basically HD DVD or DVHS 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:14.720 quality, though. >> I don't see a difference. >> It's still 1080p instead of 1080i, but I 00:25:11.679 --> 00:25:15.360 mean, we just watched 1080p and yeah, 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:21.600 this looks good. >> And the thing is, just because they have 25 or 50 gigs on a disc doesn't 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:25.600 necessarily mean that they're going to use all of it. Different Blu-rays will 00:25:23.600 --> 00:25:31.039 often run at dramatically different bit rates. >> I think that this looks slightly more 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:34.320 detailed than HD DVD, but >> dude, you'd have to pull out the 00:25:32.320 --> 00:25:41.919 magnifier to really be sure. >> Yeah, I would still get a DVHS player. 00:25:37.919 --> 00:25:43.520 >> Oh, come on. [laughter] 00:25:41.919 --> 00:25:47.679 >> Okay, I probably wouldn't, but like you got to admit the DVHS player looks the 00:25:45.840 --> 00:25:53.600 best so far out of everything we've watched. >> It had way more just artifacts and crap. 00:25:51.600 --> 00:25:56.640 Okay, it did, but it also also it also looked more like an old film and like in 00:25:55.279 --> 00:26:00.640 a kind of comforting way. >> The real kicker was that while 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:07.440 standalone players were super expensive for both of them at the start, Sony 00:26:03.919 --> 00:26:09.520 dusted off their old playbook and 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:14.799 integrated Blu-ray into the PlayStation 3 for the starting price of $4.99, 00:26:11.919 --> 00:26:19.679 >> which was a lot at the time, but it's still a lot less than buying an Xbox and 00:26:17.840 --> 00:26:26.080 a next generation video player. >> That's fair. And Blu-ray has continued 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:29.120 to evolve. In February of 2016, Blu-ray 00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:32.480 got what may end up being its final glow 00:26:29.120 --> 00:26:34.960 up with the launch of Ultra HD or 4K 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:39.919 Blu-ray. Thanks to the even higher capacity of these discs, we now get 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:44.799 Atmos audio with positional data baked into the soundtrack, 10 bit color and 00:26:41.840 --> 00:26:49.600 recre 2020 with HDR, mandatory for 4K Blu-ray, or even 12 bit with Dolby 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:55.600 Vision, which is optional. The question now is how does Rambo First Blood look 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:58.799 for the 10th time today >> in its final form. 00:26:57.120 --> 00:27:03.200 >> Hey, the film grain's back. >> Yeah, >> they figured out in the time since the 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:08.240 Blu-ray that people want that filmic look. To their credit, 1080p is enough 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:13.360 for a clean image. >> Totally. >> But it's not necessarily enough 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.760 resolution to properly represent film grain. 00:27:14.159 --> 00:27:19.440 >> Like it can end up just looking like digital noise. Whereas when you have 00:27:17.520 --> 00:27:25.120 more resolution, you can have some of that original film grain. Oh, wow. 00:27:24.080 --> 00:27:30.000 The lake, dude, >> it's pretty bright. >> You can see Yeah. And you can still see 00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.960 all the detail in it. >> Yeah, you Oh, wow. I hadn't even I was 00:27:31.679 --> 00:27:37.360 looking at the mountain again, but like Yeah, you're right. It doesn't clip nearly as badly in anything else we 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:43.360 watched. I can actually see all the rippling and stuff going on in the lake. >> It's kind of incredible to think that 00:27:41.360 --> 00:27:48.880 the original film, cuz it's not like they can recapture that. the original 00:27:45.919 --> 00:27:52.000 film had all of that dynamic range. >> We just didn't have a home format that 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:58.240 was capable of reproducing it. >> I mean, that's kind of the scary thing about uh analog just dying slowly. A lot 00:27:55.919 --> 00:28:02.320 of film is just rotting in a warehouse or something somewhere. And if we don't 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:06.480 remaster it digitally within some time period, it's just gone. And their faces 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:13.194 look natural again. There's a little bit of red in them. >> Yeah. You could see that they have blood 00:28:09.520 --> 00:28:14.399 >> flowing in them. first blood 00:28:13.194 --> 00:28:19.520 [laughter] to. >> But you guys didn't need us to tell you 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:25.279 that 4K Blu-ray is the highest fidelity movie format. So, let's answer the 00:28:23.120 --> 00:28:29.520 question that no one was asking. What's the price of a 4K Blu-ray player and 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:32.960 where can I get one? Wait, yeah, no, no one is asking that. 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