1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,120 Where do you think you're going? 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,430 Get over here. Get this jack. Come on. Come. [music] 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:25,039 Why would you be carrying a remote like this? [music] >> Watching. >> Don't be a wise guy. What are you 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:32,880 watching with a universal remote? >> Name it. DVD, Blu-ray, laser disc, 5 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,640 everything. Well, almost everything. 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,600 >> We tracked [music] down nearly every single home movie format for the last 50 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:43,230 years, >> alongside 10 copies of one of the only 8 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:49,840 films that's available across every [music] single one of them, Rambo First 9 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:52,480 Blood. This is my knife. Yeah, we better 10 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:55,520 make our way back to the studio. Okay. Oh, but [music] not until we tell them 11 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:00,800 about our sponsor. >> Many have tried to learn the ancient 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:05,920 power [music] of coding, and many have failed, for they knew not the shest 13 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:08,920 path. boat boot.dev. 14 00:01:12,050 --> 00:01:14,070 [music] 15 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:25,600 We'll be going chronologically, which means we'll be starting with everyone's 16 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:26,560 darling, Betamax, which uh yeah, hey, 17 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:32,079 doesn't look too good. >> I think if we take away the anomalies 18 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,840 aside, it looks uh okay. I think it 19 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:36,799 looks about on par with VHS. Maybe a little better. >> You're right. That does help, 20 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,840 >> you know. Yeah, that's right. Um unfortunately, we ran through three different tapes and the third one was 21 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,640 looking really good until the tape snapped. >> Oh, shoot. 22 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:48,240 >> Yeah. No, there's nothing there. It's just gone. >> That's just [music] the reality of the 23 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:51,920 situation, though. I mean, these early formats were not designed to last 24 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:57,360 forever. They were very analog, and they've all been slowly breaking down 25 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:59,520 over the last, in this case, 40 years 26 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:04,320 due to humidity, uh, temperature changes, uh, magnetization loss, and the 27 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:09,360 three-layer binding can apparently come undone. Uh, lube can dry up. It's 28 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,879 impossible to save these forever without digitization. 29 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:17,680 Fortunately, there will be plenty of that to go around later. As for the 30 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:23,920 format, Betamax was developed by Sony and actually beat VHS to market by about 31 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:27,040 a year, but ultimately lost what we 32 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:29,120 could say is the first major format war. 33 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:33,200 The footage was higher quality, but you could only fit about an hour per tape, 34 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:37,040 so lower quality longplay ones came out later to fit full movies into a single 35 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,879 session. Kind of like Beta's uh subversive little brother, VHS. We might 36 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,200 as well move on to that at this point because as much as beta might have 37 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:49,599 looked better back then, it sure doesn't today. >> Well, I'll tell you this. Overall, I 38 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:52,560 actually think it's on par with VHS, maybe a little nicer. 39 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,720 >> You're not wrong where it looks good, >> right? It looks okay. >> Does look good. 40 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:57,840 >> Yeah, >> that was a pretty cool stunt considering [music] they did everything practically 41 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:03,840 back then. >> Yeah, it's a great movie. >> I've never seen it. >> You're about to watch [laughter] it 10 42 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:08,000 times. >> All right, VHS, baby. 43 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:11,280 >> Okay, VHS. Oh, you know what? I wonder if you need different outputs. You 44 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,840 shouldn't. Should just work off the same one. >> Oh, 45 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:17,599 >> Svideo out. >> Did we go get an Svideo cable for 46 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:21,599 nothing? Because it doesn't even support Svideo on the VHS player side. 47 00:03:19,777 --> 00:03:27,200 [groaning] >> Is that what happened? >> It says DVD only. 48 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:31,760 >> Oh, balls. Here's the thing. We wanted to use the Svideo output on this player 49 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:36,640 in order to give VHS a fair shake against Betamax, but this is probably 50 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:44,640 more realistic anyway since most VCRs used a simple composite hookup. 51 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:46,400 Ah, that takes me back. [laughter] 52 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,879 And if you're over 30, it'll probably do the same for you. 53 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:59,040 That's the good sound. That's how you know the machine's working. Machines don't make noise anymore. And there we 54 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:04,000 go. Someone forgot to rewind. >> Classic. See, before the advent of 55 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:08,239 digital media, employees at video rental stores and unlucky younger brothers 56 00:04:06,239 --> 00:04:13,760 would spend an awful lot of time waiting around to rewind the tape before a movie 57 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:18,079 could be enjoyed or well, at least viewed. I'm enjoying this. Doesn't look 58 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,440 as good as its modern-day counterparts. But I think that's something we kind of 59 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:24,639 forget a lot is that like when this was the only thing available, it looked fine 60 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,840 and no one no one thought about like we'd watch movies at home all the time. >> This has even held up reasonably 61 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:34,000 decently. >> Yeah, >> it only has 240 lines of luminance 62 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:40,560 resolution and only usually stereo sound. But despite these drawbacks and 63 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,800 the high initial cost, VHS was the clear 64 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:46,720 and undisputed winner of the first great format war. Bringing movies from the big 65 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:52,639 screen at your local theater to the small, very small screen in your home. 66 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,120 >> Yeah, this is huge for CRT standards to be very clear. 67 00:04:53,360 --> 00:05:00,080 >> Yeah, to its credit, the tape has held up pretty okay. Which reminds me, so did 68 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:03,600 VHS as a format. >> 29 69 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:08,560 years. That's the time from the introduction to the last Hollywood 70 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,600 release in 2006. It's almost as old as me. All the colors look pretty muted. 71 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,000 We're probably only get I don't even know how much of like sRGB we're 72 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:21,680 getting. >> But for a long time, if you wanted movie at home, it was this or watch on cable 73 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:28,479 with probably worse image quality, not to mention endless commercials and often 74 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:30,560 the uh best parts edited out. 75 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:33,440 >> Mr. Falcon, >> there's not much more to say. Like it's 76 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,960 got a lot of grain to it. >> Yeah. >> Like I would watch this. 77 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:40,320 >> Like if I went to someone's house and they had a VHS playing and this was like 78 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:44,080 I'd sit down and watch this movie. >> Yeah. Why not? >> I wouldn't complain about it. >> You'd complain? 79 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,240 >> No. I probably wouldn't. >> Really? Yeah. >> Not a single complaint? >> No. Cuz it's not my house. 80 00:05:47,039 --> 00:05:52,479 >> Okay. You'd complain at your own house. >> Oh, 100%. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Just making sure I 81 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:56,960 understand where you're at. [laughter] >> You want to try laser disc next? 82 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:03,120 >> Yes. It may have never gained widespread popularity in the west, but laser disc 83 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:07,759 existed alongside VHS and arguably was 84 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:11,280 superior in every measurable way. 85 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:13,120 Like, look at this convenience. Also, I 86 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:19,440 can measure how much I can store on one side. >> Listen, at my age, I see midmov bathroom 87 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:22,240 breaks as an absolute win. Uh oh, which side am I on? 88 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:25,840 >> Yeah. Damn it. >> We're 100% keeping that in. I think it's 89 00:06:25,039 --> 00:06:30,960 this one. >> Does it have labels? >> Yeah, but I can't remember if the label 90 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:34,080 you want the label to be up or the label to be down. >> Yeah. And it actually varied from one 91 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:40,080 player to another. >> Yeah. What an incredible format. >> We did a deeper dive a couple of years 92 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:45,280 ago, but the TLDDR is laser disc made its first appearance in 1978 as Disco 93 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:49,600 Vision. And like compact discs, it uses tiny 94 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:54,160 pits and lands that are etched into the surface to store media and a laser to 95 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:58,000 read the pattern. Unlike CDs in future disc based formats, however, the 96 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:02,080 encoding of the movie was actually analog, >> which is pretty cool. 97 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:07,360 >> It's pretty Yeah, it's a mix of technologies. We're at that like weird threshold where it goes from being 98 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:13,680 analog to digital. >> It's lasers. >> Yeah. Discal. 99 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:17,840 Laser disc. It's [music] going It just takes a hot second. Side B. You put that 100 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,639 key in. >> At least it tells you before it even does anything, though. 101 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:26,639 >> Widescreen, baby. Widecreen's cool and all. 102 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:31,199 >> I never liked it back when I had a 4x3 display though. >> No, it looks terrible on It's You just 103 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:34,479 get It's so much less screen space. But >> our screens were so small. 104 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,680 >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is a big CRT. Imagine on like a tiny one. Oh, 105 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,440 yeah. It'd be terrible. >> Yeah. >> There's definitely more resolution. >> Oh, yeah. 106 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:46,800 >> There's definitely more resolution. >> Literally twice as much. >> Yeah. But like the the rest of the 107 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,120 quality of the image, it doesn't look that much better than VHS. 108 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,280 >> The color's better. >> Color's better. But if I saw like a 109 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:57,199 laser disc in someone's home theater and then I went home and watched the same 110 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:00,960 movie on my VCR, I I don't think I'd go out and buy a laser disc player. 111 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,160 >> You're also not watching it on a big screen, though. 112 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:07,039 >> Sure. >> And VHS falls apart on a larger display. 113 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:11,039 >> It really does. It really [music] does. Even those big uh rip projection TVs. 114 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:14,560 And given that folks with bigger screens probably had bigger sound systems, 115 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:19,360 they'd have also gotten a benefit out of the fact that laser disc was the first 116 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,919 popular home movie format to support surround sound. 117 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,280 >> Wow. >> Including Rambo First Blood. 118 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:30,080 >> Okay, that's actually a pretty genuine reason to buy this over a VCR. 119 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:35,919 >> And there were other benefits, too. Laser Disc also got arguably the best 120 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:39,599 releases of many classic films thanks to their unique edits or bonus features 121 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:44,080 that can't be found elsewhere. >> Unfortunately, due to high costs and uh 122 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:48,399 being limited to about 60 minutes of content per side, it never really caught 123 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,440 on and took off in the West. Outside of, you know, your favorite karaoke bar or 124 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,839 maybe your rich uncle's home theater. >> Hear me out. Hear me out. What if you 125 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:59,839 like the quality of VHS with the inconvenience of laser disc? You get the 126 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:04,366 CED video disc player >> wrapped in one overly fragile package. 127 00:09:02,346 --> 00:09:08,800 [laughter] >> Trying to remember how to work it. 128 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:12,000 >> It's in the load and unload position. Now you just put it in. You put You use 129 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:15,200 the caddy and you pop it in. >> Yeah. >> Keep going. Keep going. It goes all the 130 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:18,880 way in pretty much. Okay. Now it should be locked. Now pull the caddy out. And if we're lucky, it worked. 131 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:28,320 >> Nice. >> It's out. Hey, >> this format. Oh, there it [laughter] 132 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:31,120 goes again. I forgot how bad it is. 133 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:36,000 This format also competed head-to-head in the same era as VHS, Betamax, and 134 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Laser Disc. They're so cool. I made a whole video on them. Too bad they 135 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:44,080 suck. Yeah. Basically, instead of pits 136 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:49,200 and lands on a plastic disc being read by a laser, you know, like all of the 137 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:54,480 sensible disc media, they used a vinyl disc with a stylus that measures the 138 00:09:52,000 --> 00:10:01,040 capacitance between the stylus tip and the disc as it rips around at 13 times 139 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,519 the RPM of a typical music vinyl record. It's an engineering marvel that it works 140 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:09,600 at all. >> Yeah, it's absolutely wild. All I can say for sure is it doesn't doesn't look 141 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:12,560 good right now, 30 years later. >> To its credit, other than the horrible 142 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,600 fringing. >> Yeah, look at the flag badges on there. >> The flag's a little rough. A 143 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:23,360 >> little. >> And the color. >> Yeah, the color is not great. >> Other than all of those things. 144 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:27,120 >> It's operating okay right now. At least it like we saw that major skip a little 145 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,200 while ago, but it's been playing consistently for at least a couple 146 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,440 minutes. >> Feel like you're jinxing it, >> right? I'm just The whole time I said 147 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,839 the sentence, I was waiting for it to just start skipping. [laughter] But yeah, this is not great. I would 148 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:43,839 take VHS [music] over this. >> Oh, yeah. Well, so did everyone. >> Yeah, so did everybody else. 149 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:47,040 >> In fairness, I mean, on that subject, repeated playback is hard on many media 150 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:54,640 formats. Mhm. >> But because of the [music] physical contact between the stylus and the disc, 151 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:57,920 RCA's estimated 500 plays was probably 152 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,680 more fantasy than the 50 or so films 153 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:03,120 that were available at launch. Unlike the rest of the formats we've looked at 154 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:07,120 so far, pricing wasn't the issue. At around $500 for a player and 15 to $40 155 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:13,440 per movie, >> reasonable, >> but due to being trapped in development 156 00:11:09,839 --> 00:11:16,399 hell for over 15 years, this thing lost 157 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,959 the race and ultimately destroyed RCA before [laughter] it even began. 158 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,160 >> Kind of did. >> Our next stop is video CD. It's exactly 159 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:30,480 what it sounds like, featuring a resolution of just 240 lines, but no 160 00:11:28,079 --> 00:11:35,200 inconvenient rewinding and much greater durability than VHS. What more could you 161 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:39,519 ask for in 1987? Oh, I don't know, maybe more than 5 minutes of video per disc. 162 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:44,000 To their credit, the problem of digitizing and compressing video data 163 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:50,959 was solved a few years later, and in 1993, VCD in its current form, which can 164 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:53,360 fit a film on just two discs, was born. 165 00:11:50,959 --> 00:11:58,959 Now, you probably think of VCD as a format for pirates, but for a short time 166 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:03,279 before writable CDs came out, Hollywood did release a handful of films on this 167 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:05,920 format. Here we go. Here we go. VCD got this. We got this. >> It even said VCD on the TV and 168 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:10,079 everything. >> Let's go. >> Copyright proprietor license has licensed the material. 169 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:15,639 >> It's all spelled right. >> At what point can you tell that's 170 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:15,639 Sylvester Stallone? 171 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,360 Well, here >> now it's fine. Yeah, now you can see it's it's slide, but like 172 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,600 >> what's his name? He looked like a completely different guy. 173 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:33,040 >> Yeah, >> the entire lake is just >> Yeah. blown out. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] 174 00:12:32,079 --> 00:12:38,959 It's awful. >> There's no action yet either. >> No. >> The drawback of VCD is the super low bit 175 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,399 rate. We haven't even thrown a challenging seat at it yet. He looked 176 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,920 more like Richard Simmons AT THE BEGINNING. >> OH, IT KIND OF DID. 177 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,279 >> That's what I was looking for. I could see this because of the hair, but 178 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:54,480 doesn't this just look awful? Like I've watched this intro multiple times in 179 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,399 like high definition and um you this 180 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:00,320 looks fine normally. I'm not saying it looks amazing. It's definitely a film 181 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:04,560 filmed 40 years ago or whatever, but like look at how bad this looks. 182 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:08,160 >> The motion performance and the like digital blocking artifacts around 183 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:13,760 anything that moves. >> Awful. >> Give me a VHS any day of the week. 184 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:17,360 >> 100% over this. Yeah, >> no question. This is rough, but hey, you 185 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:23,200 know, the cases are smaller, so you could stack more movies in the same amount of physical space. 186 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:29,519 >> That's true. And it's not its only advantage. Despite kind of sucking, VCD 187 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:35,680 lived a long life, allegedly still being sold in Asia as recently as 2013. And it 188 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,920 even got a bunch of spin-offs. XVCD, for 189 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:41,600 instance, uses variable bit rate to help save data in simpler scenes and then 190 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:47,839 improve image quality in more complex ones. >> At least I hope so. KVCD supported 191 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:50,160 higher resolutions or runtime. DVCD or 192 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:52,560 double VCD was for longer movies that couldn't fit on a single disc. 193 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:58,800 >> That's what we've got today. >> Which would have been nice for and SVCD 194 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:02,000 or super VCD offered better image quality. Apparently almost on par with 195 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:06,399 DVD, >> which we'll get to soon. But first, 196 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:13,199 let's take a look at yet another skeleton on VHS's road to world 197 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:14,959 domination. It's roided out cousin DVHS. 198 00:14:13,199 --> 00:14:18,720 This is another format that we've already covered in a previous video, but 199 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:26,160 it's mind-blowing enough that I think it merits talking about again. I mean, high 200 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:27,760 definition on tape back in 1994. 201 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:32,320 How did I not know about this when I was a freaking kid? Well, for starters, it 202 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:36,480 wasn't commercially available until quite a bit later. And for another 203 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:40,399 thing, it was really expensive back then. >> And unfortunately for you, it's rare. 204 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:45,199 So, it's still expensive today. >> Oh, cool. [laughter] Yeah, I know. Because the player we used 205 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:50,160 that time, uh, it started to eat the tapes as we were filming B-roll and so 206 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:56,160 we had to get a new one. Uh, we also had to get new tapes. Um, hopefully this one 207 00:14:53,360 --> 00:15:00,320 doesn't explode before we finish, but no guarantee. I tested it and watched it 208 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:05,120 footage. I know it works, but for how long? I can't say. [laughter] 209 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:08,399 Cool. Why did we change TVs? because this one uses FireWire for the copyright 210 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:14,079 protection >> and the only way we can get FireWire in 211 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:17,199 a modern display is with a plasma with a receiver that accompanies [music] it. 212 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:23,519 >> So, not only did you need to shell out some big money for the player in the tapes, but you were also limited to a TV 213 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:26,720 or receiver that supported FireWire. >> Yeah. >> Like this sweet Pioneer Plasma. 214 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,880 >> Mhm. >> I should press play. >> You should. But it looks like actually 215 00:15:30,079 --> 00:15:35,360 really good. >> Yeah. Like there's a bit of noise in the image still. 216 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:39,600 >> It's fine. But this is the first format where I can distinguish film grain from 217 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,000 crappy low resolution. >> Yeah, this is 1080i. 218 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:46,399 >> It looks awesome. >> It really does. Like this is genuine HD. 219 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,839 His badge isn't looking all garbage like it did in most the other formats. You 220 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,720 can actually see small details on things. All the bamboo shoots there. 221 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:56,000 Yeah. Like this actually looks really good. >> Really fast motion. You can catch that 222 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,519 it's >> interlaced and skin tones. 223 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,040 >> Oh, and the blacks. Like I was watching his pants walk across the cabinets back 224 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,560 there and I could actually see his pants against the cabinets. Like it had enough 225 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:10,320 range where I could differentiate the two materials. >> Dude, the color. 226 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:13,040 >> Yeah, it's pretty legit. His fist looks white like he's clenching it, you know, 227 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:19,759 even though his face is all red cuz he's all angry and stuff. It's really upsetting that this came out as late as 228 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,720 it did to Holmes and that it cost as much as it did because like 229 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:27,600 >> this is amazing >> and this is factoring in that this is 230 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:30,399 still a tape based medium. Yeah, this has probably degraded. 231 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,759 >> It's really too bad that it stayed professional only for so long because by 232 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:38,800 the time it had come out in the very early 2000s, DVD had already cemented 233 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,120 itself as the future even though this looks better. 234 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:45,279 >> Better is an understatement. >> Oh yeah, we're going to do DVD next. And I bet it's going to be like a downgrade. 235 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,399 >> Major. >> Like we're on a bigger screen, too. Like that's something that we really have to 236 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:55,120 stop and and mention is that like the size is massive compared to our CRT. And 237 00:16:52,800 --> 00:17:00,399 it looks way more detailed. It even had modern creature comforts like multiple 238 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:02,800 audio channels and chapter stops. 239 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:09,120 Unfortunately, it's chapter stops here as we move on to finally a new king. 240 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:10,720 After this parade of pretenders in March 241 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:17,520 1997, the DVD or digital versatile disc, not 242 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:22,559 video, came to North America. If you were ignorant of the wonders of DVHS or 243 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:28,160 laser disc, so if you were almost anyone, DVD was incredible. Not only was 244 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:34,960 the quality significantly higher than regular VHS at a whopping 480p thanks to 245 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:39,679 single layer discs holding 4.7 GB of data, but the discs were tiny compared 246 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:43,280 to VHS and laser disc, and they wouldn't wear out over multiple plays. Not only 247 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:47,600 that, but it had cool features that were new to most people, like chapter 248 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:51,280 selection and on [music] disk extras that ranged from deleted scenes to 249 00:17:49,679 --> 00:17:54,640 bloopers to interactive games. >> I remember those. >> Yeah, they were actually really great. I 250 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:58,960 remember it was such a big deal. Like even this even the main menu it was it 251 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,799 was like it was so cool cuz you went from renting a videape and putting it in 252 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,400 and just watching the movie to like all of a sudden, you know, you and your family watch the movie and then you 253 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:10,559 check out the deleted scenes after. You check out the bonus features. Like 254 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:17,919 >> now early players were super expensive. Yeah, here's an ad from 1997 with ranges 255 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:20,240 from [clears throat] $500 to $750, 256 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:25,919 but that cost dropped massively as adoption ramped up. And in March of 257 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:29,760 2000, the PlayStation 2 launched with 258 00:18:25,919 --> 00:18:32,559 DVD playback functionality at just $299. 259 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,360 Wait, sorry. So, it's a game console and it's one of the cheapest DVD players on 260 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:40,559 the market. >> Hell yeah. >> What a move. Sony >> crushed it. 261 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:44,720 >> Back to widescreen on the tiny TV. Yeah, >> not an upgrade. 262 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:48,240 >> No, but 480p is technically better than what we were 263 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:52,880 looking at before. >> And we're using Svideo now, which was 264 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:56,080 much more common by the time DVT rolled around. [laughter] 265 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,480 >> It's like three steps forward, eight steps back. 266 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:06,080 >> Okay. The color is a lot better though. Skin tones way better. 267 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:10,880 >> Yeah, but like I can barely see the mountain in the background. It's pretty much just part of the sky. 268 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,679 >> Exactly. Um, [laughter] and like the the lake still looks like super blown out. 269 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:19,760 >> Um, >> and the buildings are just black. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like you said, to 270 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:23,600 most people, this was a massive upgrade. >> Oh, yeah. Even just not having to be so 271 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:28,160 careful with them and not being so bulky. >> You can fit like five DVDs in the same 272 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:34,559 space. You could fit one VHS. >> Yeah. I actually remember watching The Matrix on DVD back in 2000 when my uncle 273 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:40,640 uh got his first like big 5.1 surround sound home theater system. DVD was brand 274 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,080 new. It looked and sounded absolutely 275 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,440 incredible. And that's like when my first introduction to hi-fi was kind of 276 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,160 starting and when I actually got into like things can look better than what 277 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:52,080 I've been watching. >> And all these years later, now you own a display. 278 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:56,960 >> Several. In fact, >> DVDs are even still being produced and 279 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:59,120 sold with major releases priced at roughly the same as their Blu-ray 280 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,520 counterparts. >> Astonishing. It's really amazing that 281 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:08,640 these are still being created and used today, especially when you consider that 282 00:20:05,679 --> 00:20:12,559 both formats have coexisted for nearly 20 years. 283 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:17,360 >> It really is decent enough. >> 100%. >> The only reason I'm unhappy right now is 284 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,880 because I just watched DVHS. >> Yeah, we know what's better and we've 285 00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:27,760 seen what's better. Whereas like for most people, this massive upgrade. I I we just can't say it enough. Like it was 286 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:29,600 incredible going from VHS >> to DVD 287 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,880 >> to DVD. It really was. >> And it was such a big step that I felt 288 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:38,240 like a lot of the people I knew just felt like DVD was good enough. Totally 289 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:42,080 >> to the point where when Blu-ray came out, they were like, 290 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:48,159 >> I Yeah, it's kind of funny, but that's really true. Like it's probably why it survived for so long is cuz it was 291 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:50,640 >> It wasn't until our TVs got so much bigger that this mattered. 292 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:56,320 >> Yeah. True. >> That this was problematic at all. >> Yeah. Cuz even back in 2000, like TVs 293 00:20:54,080 --> 00:21:00,240 were only starting to get into like 50in ranges commonly. And even that even 50 294 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,159 was like pretty big unless it was rear projection. >> And that was fuzzy rear projection 295 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,640 generally speaking. >> Yeah. >> We can't get to Blu-ray yet though because I promised we'd do this 296 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,720 chronologically. And you know what came out just a few months earlier? Good old 297 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:17,520 HD DVD. >> Are you actually nostalgic for it? 298 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:22,880 >> No. I've actually never watched an HD DVD and I thought it stood for 299 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:25,600 highdeinition DVD. It's actually high density DVD. 300 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:31,919 >> The more you know. I've never experienced this either. So, I'm actually a little excited. That's it. 301 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:37,440 That's the extra standalone player. >> It's the size of the Xbox. [laughter] 302 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:42,960 >> Developed by Toshiba, highdensity DVD was over three times the capacity of 303 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:45,280 regular DVD at 15 gigs per layer. And 304 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:50,240 like Blu-ray, it used a blue laser with a shorter wavelength. But how was the 305 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:55,280 quality? It looks pretty damn good, though. Of course, it's this should 306 00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:57,360 still be like 1080p. You know, the 307 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:01,600 actual quality by comparison was pretty similar between the two formats. It was 308 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:06,400 really just the storage capacity was kind of the major factor. We're also 309 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:08,240 using a much more modern display here. 310 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:12,559 >> Yeah, we've upgraded to an OLED, which we know is not apples to apples, but if 311 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:16,960 you got HDMI, [music] you might as well flaunt it. >> Yeah, 312 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,200 >> the resolution is just so much better. 313 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:24,880 But you know what? I will say it felt a little more filmic looking on DVHS. 314 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:29,679 >> Yeah, more organic. And this one the mastering isn't as good, I think, cuz if 315 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:32,640 like we might see it here, that mountain still I can barely see it. And this is 316 00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:37,440 an OLED with >> better than DVD. >> Better than DVD, but not as good as 317 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,320 DVHS. I think the DVHS was mastered a little better again. It's kind of crazy 318 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,120 cuz we we we said the same things when we did the video on it, watching the 319 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:46,159 hurricane on it. >> How good is DVHS? >> It's amazing. 320 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:49,440 >> Bring it back. >> We're bringing it back. We've got a player right there. We're gonna buy more 321 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:54,240 movies, right? >> No. >> And then hang out in your theater room and watch TVHS tick. 322 00:22:52,720 --> 00:23:00,159 >> No. [laughter] >> Even the house though. I'm looking there again and the shadows. You can still see 323 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:03,600 all the like staining from the natural um like moss and lykan and stuff 324 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,440 building up on the the grungginess of it. >> You can tell they really lifted up the 325 00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:11,520 shadows a lot. >> I was just thinking that on his left side you can like it's not nearly as 326 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:16,799 dark as it was before. >> And especially compared to the previous formats where his skin tones were so 327 00:23:15,679 --> 00:23:19,520 red. Yeah. >> Now they're almost sickly looking or 328 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:23,520 almost green. >> Yeah, almost. >> Obviously, you could run into the same 329 00:23:21,919 --> 00:23:28,880 issues with color grading on a Blu-ray, though. So, why did HDD DVD fail? 330 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:32,640 >> Well, failing is relative. It got more movie releases than video disc. Okay. 331 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:39,120 And [laughter] it sold about 3/4 of a million players, 332 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,320 including the Xbox 360 add-on. But, 333 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:46,400 yeah, you know, considering the development cost, >> it's a giant failure. Um, and it's not 334 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,600 because the HD DVD was bad. Look, this looks pretty good. 335 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:54,960 >> It's great. >> It's because the competition was better. >> Now, a lot of people liken the Blu-ray 336 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:58,320 versus HD DVD format wars to the older 337 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,400 VHS and beta battle. And the rumor was 338 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:06,240 that the winner was chosen in the same way by the adult entertainment industry. 339 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:11,520 But realistically, there was more to it than that. Development by the BDA or 340 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:18,046 Blu-ray Disc Association began as far back as 2001. And when Blu-ray launched 341 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:20,320 in late June of 2006, it did so with a 342 00:24:18,046 --> 00:24:25,600 [music] vastly superior capacity to anything at the time. Even the single 343 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:32,240 layer discs made HD DVD sound more like half density DVD with 25 gigs. And then 344 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:38,480 dual layer 50 gig discs came just a few months later, enabling even lengthy full 345 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:41,279 1080p HD films to fit on a single piece 346 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:46,240 of plastic. And that's with highfidelity multi- channelannel audio and extras 347 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:50,320 galore. Wow. Now that's a menu. 348 00:24:47,679 --> 00:24:55,200 >> Look at this. Normally I'm the one who's over the top on camera. [laughter] By 349 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:59,840 the way, was this intentional? I just I just noticed looking at the thing we're 350 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,279 both that I love this sweater. I love 351 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:06,480 the the lilac, too. >> Available now. ltstore.com. 352 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,200 >> This is still basically HD DVD or DVHS 353 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:14,720 quality, though. >> I don't see a difference. >> It's still 1080p instead of 1080i, but I 354 00:25:11,679 --> 00:25:15,360 mean, we just watched 1080p and yeah, 355 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:21,600 this looks good. >> And the thing is, just because they have 25 or 50 gigs on a disc doesn't 356 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,600 necessarily mean that they're going to use all of it. Different Blu-rays will 357 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:31,039 often run at dramatically different bit rates. >> I think that this looks slightly more 358 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,320 detailed than HD DVD, but >> dude, you'd have to pull out the 359 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:41,919 magnifier to really be sure. >> Yeah, I would still get a DVHS player. 360 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:43,520 >> Oh, come on. [laughter] 361 00:25:41,919 --> 00:25:47,679 >> Okay, I probably wouldn't, but like you got to admit the DVHS player looks the 362 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:53,600 best so far out of everything we've watched. >> It had way more just artifacts and crap. 363 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,640 Okay, it did, but it also also it also looked more like an old film and like in 364 00:25:55,279 --> 00:26:00,640 a kind of comforting way. >> The real kicker was that while 365 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:07,440 standalone players were super expensive for both of them at the start, Sony 366 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:09,520 dusted off their old playbook and 367 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:14,799 integrated Blu-ray into the PlayStation 3 for the starting price of $4.99, 368 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:19,679 >> which was a lot at the time, but it's still a lot less than buying an Xbox and 369 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:26,080 a next generation video player. >> That's fair. And Blu-ray has continued 370 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:29,120 to evolve. In February of 2016, Blu-ray 371 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:32,480 got what may end up being its final glow 372 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:34,960 up with the launch of Ultra HD or 4K 373 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:39,919 Blu-ray. Thanks to the even higher capacity of these discs, we now get 374 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:44,799 Atmos audio with positional data baked into the soundtrack, 10 bit color and 375 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:49,600 recre 2020 with HDR, mandatory for 4K Blu-ray, or even 12 bit with Dolby 376 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:55,600 Vision, which is optional. The question now is how does Rambo First Blood look 377 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:58,799 for the 10th time today >> in its final form. 378 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:03,200 >> Hey, the film grain's back. >> Yeah, >> they figured out in the time since the 379 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:08,240 Blu-ray that people want that filmic look. To their credit, 1080p is enough 380 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:13,360 for a clean image. >> Totally. >> But it's not necessarily enough 381 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:15,760 resolution to properly represent film grain. 382 00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:19,440 >> Like it can end up just looking like digital noise. Whereas when you have 383 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:25,120 more resolution, you can have some of that original film grain. Oh, wow. 384 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:30,000 The lake, dude, >> it's pretty bright. >> You can see Yeah. And you can still see 385 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:32,960 all the detail in it. >> Yeah, you Oh, wow. I hadn't even I was 386 00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:37,360 looking at the mountain again, but like Yeah, you're right. It doesn't clip nearly as badly in anything else we 387 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:43,360 watched. I can actually see all the rippling and stuff going on in the lake. >> It's kind of incredible to think that 388 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:48,880 the original film, cuz it's not like they can recapture that. the original 389 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:52,000 film had all of that dynamic range. >> We just didn't have a home format that 390 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:58,240 was capable of reproducing it. >> I mean, that's kind of the scary thing about uh analog just dying slowly. A lot 391 00:27:55,919 --> 00:28:02,320 of film is just rotting in a warehouse or something somewhere. And if we don't 392 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:06,480 remaster it digitally within some time period, it's just gone. And their faces 393 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:13,194 look natural again. There's a little bit of red in them. >> Yeah. You could see that they have blood 394 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,399 >> flowing in them. first blood 395 00:28:13,194 --> 00:28:19,520 [laughter] to. >> But you guys didn't need us to tell you 396 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:25,279 that 4K Blu-ray is the highest fidelity movie format. So, let's answer the 397 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:29,520 question that no one was asking. What's the price of a 4K Blu-ray player and 398 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,960 where can I get one? Wait, yeah, no, no one is asking that. 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