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We'll be going chronologically, which means we'll be starting with everyone's
darling, Betamax, which uh yeah, hey,
doesn't look too good. >> I think if we take away the anomalies
aside, it looks uh okay. I think it
looks about on par with VHS. Maybe a little better. >> You're right. That does help,
>> you know. Yeah, that's right. Um unfortunately, we ran through three different tapes and the third one was
looking really good until the tape snapped. >> Oh, shoot.
>> Yeah. No, there's nothing there. It's just gone. >> That's just [music] the reality of the
situation, though. I mean, these early formats were not designed to last
forever. They were very analog, and they've all been slowly breaking down
over the last, in this case, 40 years
due to humidity, uh, temperature changes, uh, magnetization loss, and the
three-layer binding can apparently come undone. Uh, lube can dry up. It's
impossible to save these forever without digitization.
Fortunately, there will be plenty of that to go around later. As for the
format, Betamax was developed by Sony and actually beat VHS to market by about
a year, but ultimately lost what we
could say is the first major format war.
The footage was higher quality, but you could only fit about an hour per tape,
so lower quality longplay ones came out later to fit full movies into a single
session. Kind of like Beta's uh subversive little brother, VHS. We might
as well move on to that at this point because as much as beta might have
looked better back then, it sure doesn't today. >> Well, I'll tell you this. Overall, I
actually think it's on par with VHS, maybe a little nicer.
>> You're not wrong where it looks good, >> right? It looks okay. >> Does look good.
>> Yeah, >> that was a pretty cool stunt considering [music] they did everything practically
back then. >> Yeah, it's a great movie. >> I've never seen it. >> You're about to watch [laughter] it 10
times. >> All right, VHS, baby.
>> Okay, VHS. Oh, you know what? I wonder if you need different outputs. You
shouldn't. Should just work off the same one. >> Oh,
>> Svideo out. >> Did we go get an Svideo cable for
nothing? Because it doesn't even support Svideo on the VHS player side.
[groaning] >> Is that what happened? >> It says DVD only.
>> Oh, balls. Here's the thing. We wanted to use the Svideo output on this player
in order to give VHS a fair shake against Betamax, but this is probably
more realistic anyway since most VCRs used a simple composite hookup.
Ah, that takes me back. [laughter]
And if you're over 30, it'll probably do the same for you.
That's the good sound. That's how you know the machine's working. Machines don't make noise anymore. And there we
go. Someone forgot to rewind. >> Classic. See, before the advent of
digital media, employees at video rental stores and unlucky younger brothers
would spend an awful lot of time waiting around to rewind the tape before a movie
could be enjoyed or well, at least viewed. I'm enjoying this. Doesn't look
as good as its modern-day counterparts. But I think that's something we kind of
forget a lot is that like when this was the only thing available, it looked fine
and no one no one thought about like we'd watch movies at home all the time. >> This has even held up reasonably
decently. >> Yeah, >> it only has 240 lines of luminance
resolution and only usually stereo sound. But despite these drawbacks and
the high initial cost, VHS was the clear
and undisputed winner of the first great format war. Bringing movies from the big
screen at your local theater to the small, very small screen in your home.
>> Yeah, this is huge for CRT standards to be very clear.
>> Yeah, to its credit, the tape has held up pretty okay. Which reminds me, so did
VHS as a format. >> 29
years. That's the time from the introduction to the last Hollywood
release in 2006. It's almost as old as me. All the colors look pretty muted.
We're probably only get I don't even know how much of like sRGB we're
getting. >> But for a long time, if you wanted movie at home, it was this or watch on cable
with probably worse image quality, not to mention endless commercials and often
the uh best parts edited out.
>> Mr. Falcon, >> there's not much more to say. Like it's
got a lot of grain to it. >> Yeah. >> Like I would watch this.
>> Like if I went to someone's house and they had a VHS playing and this was like
I'd sit down and watch this movie. >> Yeah. Why not? >> I wouldn't complain about it. >> You'd complain?
>> No. I probably wouldn't. >> Really? Yeah. >> Not a single complaint? >> No. Cuz it's not my house.
>> Okay. You'd complain at your own house. >> Oh, 100%. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Just making sure I
understand where you're at. [laughter] >> You want to try laser disc next?
>> Yes. It may have never gained widespread popularity in the west, but laser disc
existed alongside VHS and arguably was
superior in every measurable way.
Like, look at this convenience. Also, I
can measure how much I can store on one side. >> Listen, at my age, I see midmov bathroom
breaks as an absolute win. Uh oh, which side am I on?
>> Yeah. Damn it. >> We're 100% keeping that in. I think it's
this one. >> Does it have labels? >> Yeah, but I can't remember if the label
you want the label to be up or the label to be down. >> Yeah. And it actually varied from one
player to another. >> Yeah. What an incredible format. >> We did a deeper dive a couple of years
ago, but the TLDDR is laser disc made its first appearance in 1978 as Disco
Vision. And like compact discs, it uses tiny
pits and lands that are etched into the surface to store media and a laser to
read the pattern. Unlike CDs in future disc based formats, however, the
encoding of the movie was actually analog, >> which is pretty cool.
>> It's pretty Yeah, it's a mix of technologies. We're at that like weird threshold where it goes from being
analog to digital. >> It's lasers. >> Yeah. Discal.
Laser disc. It's [music] going It just takes a hot second. Side B. You put that
key in. >> At least it tells you before it even does anything, though.
>> Widescreen, baby. Widecreen's cool and all.
>> I never liked it back when I had a 4x3 display though. >> No, it looks terrible on It's You just
get It's so much less screen space. But >> our screens were so small.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is a big CRT. Imagine on like a tiny one. Oh,
yeah. It'd be terrible. >> Yeah. >> There's definitely more resolution. >> Oh, yeah.
>> There's definitely more resolution. >> Literally twice as much. >> Yeah. But like the the rest of the
quality of the image, it doesn't look that much better than VHS.
>> The color's better. >> Color's better. But if I saw like a
laser disc in someone's home theater and then I went home and watched the same
movie on my VCR, I I don't think I'd go out and buy a laser disc player.
>> You're also not watching it on a big screen, though.
>> Sure. >> And VHS falls apart on a larger display.
>> It really does. It really [music] does. Even those big uh rip projection TVs.
And given that folks with bigger screens probably had bigger sound systems,
they'd have also gotten a benefit out of the fact that laser disc was the first
popular home movie format to support surround sound.
>> Wow. >> Including Rambo First Blood.
>> Okay, that's actually a pretty genuine reason to buy this over a VCR.
>> And there were other benefits, too. Laser Disc also got arguably the best
releases of many classic films thanks to their unique edits or bonus features
that can't be found elsewhere. >> Unfortunately, due to high costs and uh
being limited to about 60 minutes of content per side, it never really caught
on and took off in the West. Outside of, you know, your favorite karaoke bar or
maybe your rich uncle's home theater. >> Hear me out. Hear me out. What if you
like the quality of VHS with the inconvenience of laser disc? You get the
CED video disc player >> wrapped in one overly fragile package.
[laughter] >> Trying to remember how to work it.
>> It's in the load and unload position. Now you just put it in. You put You use
the caddy and you pop it in. >> Yeah. >> Keep going. Keep going. It goes all the
way in pretty much. Okay. Now it should be locked. Now pull the caddy out. And if we're lucky, it worked.
>> Nice. >> It's out. Hey, >> this format. Oh, there it [laughter]
goes again. I forgot how bad it is.
This format also competed head-to-head in the same era as VHS, Betamax, and
Laser Disc. They're so cool. I made a whole video on them. Too bad they
suck. Yeah. Basically, instead of pits
and lands on a plastic disc being read by a laser, you know, like all of the
sensible disc media, they used a vinyl disc with a stylus that measures the
capacitance between the stylus tip and the disc as it rips around at 13 times
the RPM of a typical music vinyl record. It's an engineering marvel that it works
at all. >> Yeah, it's absolutely wild. All I can say for sure is it doesn't doesn't look
good right now, 30 years later. >> To its credit, other than the horrible
fringing. >> Yeah, look at the flag badges on there. >> The flag's a little rough. A
>> little. >> And the color. >> Yeah, the color is not great. >> Other than all of those things.
>> It's operating okay right now. At least it like we saw that major skip a little
while ago, but it's been playing consistently for at least a couple
minutes. >> Feel like you're jinxing it, >> right? I'm just The whole time I said
the sentence, I was waiting for it to just start skipping. [laughter] But yeah, this is not great. I would
take VHS [music] over this. >> Oh, yeah. Well, so did everyone. >> Yeah, so did everybody else.
>> In fairness, I mean, on that subject, repeated playback is hard on many media
formats. Mhm. >> But because of the [music] physical contact between the stylus and the disc,
RCA's estimated 500 plays was probably
more fantasy than the 50 or so films
that were available at launch. Unlike the rest of the formats we've looked at
so far, pricing wasn't the issue. At around $500 for a player and 15 to $40
per movie, >> reasonable, >> but due to being trapped in development
hell for over 15 years, this thing lost
the race and ultimately destroyed RCA before [laughter] it even began.
>> Kind of did. >> Our next stop is video CD. It's exactly
what it sounds like, featuring a resolution of just 240 lines, but no
inconvenient rewinding and much greater durability than VHS. What more could you
ask for in 1987? Oh, I don't know, maybe more than 5 minutes of video per disc.
To their credit, the problem of digitizing and compressing video data
was solved a few years later, and in 1993, VCD in its current form, which can
fit a film on just two discs, was born.
Now, you probably think of VCD as a format for pirates, but for a short time
before writable CDs came out, Hollywood did release a handful of films on this
format. Here we go. Here we go. VCD got this. We got this. >> It even said VCD on the TV and
everything. >> Let's go. >> Copyright proprietor license has licensed the material.
>> It's all spelled right. >> At what point can you tell that's
Sylvester Stallone?
Well, here >> now it's fine. Yeah, now you can see it's it's slide, but like
>> what's his name? He looked like a completely different guy.
>> Yeah, >> the entire lake is just >> Yeah. blown out. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]
It's awful. >> There's no action yet either. >> No. >> The drawback of VCD is the super low bit
rate. We haven't even thrown a challenging seat at it yet. He looked
more like Richard Simmons AT THE BEGINNING. >> OH, IT KIND OF DID.
>> That's what I was looking for. I could see this because of the hair, but
doesn't this just look awful? Like I've watched this intro multiple times in
like high definition and um you this
looks fine normally. I'm not saying it looks amazing. It's definitely a film
filmed 40 years ago or whatever, but like look at how bad this looks.
>> The motion performance and the like digital blocking artifacts around
anything that moves. >> Awful. >> Give me a VHS any day of the week.
>> 100% over this. Yeah, >> no question. This is rough, but hey, you
know, the cases are smaller, so you could stack more movies in the same amount of physical space.
>> That's true. And it's not its only advantage. Despite kind of sucking, VCD
lived a long life, allegedly still being sold in Asia as recently as 2013. And it
even got a bunch of spin-offs. XVCD, for
instance, uses variable bit rate to help save data in simpler scenes and then
improve image quality in more complex ones. >> At least I hope so. KVCD supported
higher resolutions or runtime. DVCD or
double VCD was for longer movies that couldn't fit on a single disc.
>> That's what we've got today. >> Which would have been nice for and SVCD
or super VCD offered better image quality. Apparently almost on par with
DVD, >> which we'll get to soon. But first,
let's take a look at yet another skeleton on VHS's road to world
domination. It's roided out cousin DVHS.
This is another format that we've already covered in a previous video, but
it's mind-blowing enough that I think it merits talking about again. I mean, high
definition on tape back in 1994.
How did I not know about this when I was a freaking kid? Well, for starters, it
wasn't commercially available until quite a bit later. And for another
thing, it was really expensive back then. >> And unfortunately for you, it's rare.
So, it's still expensive today. >> Oh, cool. [laughter] Yeah, I know. Because the player we used
that time, uh, it started to eat the tapes as we were filming B-roll and so
we had to get a new one. Uh, we also had to get new tapes. Um, hopefully this one
doesn't explode before we finish, but no guarantee. I tested it and watched it
footage. I know it works, but for how long? I can't say. [laughter]
Cool. Why did we change TVs? because this one uses FireWire for the copyright
protection >> and the only way we can get FireWire in
a modern display is with a plasma with a receiver that accompanies [music] it.
>> So, not only did you need to shell out some big money for the player in the tapes, but you were also limited to a TV
or receiver that supported FireWire. >> Yeah. >> Like this sweet Pioneer Plasma.
>> Mhm. >> I should press play. >> You should. But it looks like actually
really good. >> Yeah. Like there's a bit of noise in the image still.
>> It's fine. But this is the first format where I can distinguish film grain from
crappy low resolution. >> Yeah, this is 1080i.
>> It looks awesome. >> It really does. Like this is genuine HD.
His badge isn't looking all garbage like it did in most the other formats. You
can actually see small details on things. All the bamboo shoots there.
Yeah. Like this actually looks really good. >> Really fast motion. You can catch that
it's >> interlaced and skin tones.
>> Oh, and the blacks. Like I was watching his pants walk across the cabinets back
there and I could actually see his pants against the cabinets. Like it had enough
range where I could differentiate the two materials. >> Dude, the color.
>> Yeah, it's pretty legit. His fist looks white like he's clenching it, you know,
even though his face is all red cuz he's all angry and stuff. It's really upsetting that this came out as late as
it did to Holmes and that it cost as much as it did because like
>> this is amazing >> and this is factoring in that this is
still a tape based medium. Yeah, this has probably degraded.
>> It's really too bad that it stayed professional only for so long because by
the time it had come out in the very early 2000s, DVD had already cemented
itself as the future even though this looks better.
>> Better is an understatement. >> Oh yeah, we're going to do DVD next. And I bet it's going to be like a downgrade.
>> Major. >> Like we're on a bigger screen, too. Like that's something that we really have to
stop and and mention is that like the size is massive compared to our CRT. And
it looks way more detailed. It even had modern creature comforts like multiple
audio channels and chapter stops.
Unfortunately, it's chapter stops here as we move on to finally a new king.
After this parade of pretenders in March
1997, the DVD or digital versatile disc, not
video, came to North America. If you were ignorant of the wonders of DVHS or
laser disc, so if you were almost anyone, DVD was incredible. Not only was
the quality significantly higher than regular VHS at a whopping 480p thanks to
single layer discs holding 4.7 GB of data, but the discs were tiny compared
to VHS and laser disc, and they wouldn't wear out over multiple plays. Not only
that, but it had cool features that were new to most people, like chapter
selection and on [music] disk extras that ranged from deleted scenes to
bloopers to interactive games. >> I remember those. >> Yeah, they were actually really great. I
remember it was such a big deal. Like even this even the main menu it was it
was like it was so cool cuz you went from renting a videape and putting it in
and just watching the movie to like all of a sudden, you know, you and your family watch the movie and then you
check out the deleted scenes after. You check out the bonus features. Like
>> now early players were super expensive. Yeah, here's an ad from 1997 with ranges
from [clears throat] $500 to $750,
but that cost dropped massively as adoption ramped up. And in March of
2000, the PlayStation 2 launched with
DVD playback functionality at just $299.
Wait, sorry. So, it's a game console and it's one of the cheapest DVD players on
the market. >> Hell yeah. >> What a move. Sony >> crushed it.
>> Back to widescreen on the tiny TV. Yeah, >> not an upgrade.
>> No, but 480p is technically better than what we were
looking at before. >> And we're using Svideo now, which was
much more common by the time DVT rolled around. [laughter]
>> It's like three steps forward, eight steps back.
>> Okay. The color is a lot better though. Skin tones way better.
>> Yeah, but like I can barely see the mountain in the background. It's pretty much just part of the sky.
>> Exactly. Um, [laughter] and like the the lake still looks like super blown out.
>> Um, >> and the buildings are just black. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like you said, to
most people, this was a massive upgrade. >> Oh, yeah. Even just not having to be so
careful with them and not being so bulky. >> You can fit like five DVDs in the same
space. You could fit one VHS. >> Yeah. I actually remember watching The Matrix on DVD back in 2000 when my uncle
uh got his first like big 5.1 surround sound home theater system. DVD was brand
new. It looked and sounded absolutely
incredible. And that's like when my first introduction to hi-fi was kind of
starting and when I actually got into like things can look better than what
I've been watching. >> And all these years later, now you own a display.
>> Several. In fact, >> DVDs are even still being produced and
sold with major releases priced at roughly the same as their Blu-ray
counterparts. >> Astonishing. It's really amazing that
these are still being created and used today, especially when you consider that
both formats have coexisted for nearly 20 years.
>> It really is decent enough. >> 100%. >> The only reason I'm unhappy right now is
because I just watched DVHS. >> Yeah, we know what's better and we've
seen what's better. Whereas like for most people, this massive upgrade. I I we just can't say it enough. Like it was
incredible going from VHS >> to DVD
>> to DVD. It really was. >> And it was such a big step that I felt
like a lot of the people I knew just felt like DVD was good enough. Totally
>> to the point where when Blu-ray came out, they were like,
>> I Yeah, it's kind of funny, but that's really true. Like it's probably why it survived for so long is cuz it was
>> It wasn't until our TVs got so much bigger that this mattered.
>> Yeah. True. >> That this was problematic at all. >> Yeah. Cuz even back in 2000, like TVs
were only starting to get into like 50in ranges commonly. And even that even 50
was like pretty big unless it was rear projection. >> And that was fuzzy rear projection
generally speaking. >> Yeah. >> We can't get to Blu-ray yet though because I promised we'd do this
chronologically. And you know what came out just a few months earlier? Good old
HD DVD. >> Are you actually nostalgic for it?
>> No. I've actually never watched an HD DVD and I thought it stood for
highdeinition DVD. It's actually high density DVD.
>> The more you know. I've never experienced this either. So, I'm actually a little excited. That's it.
That's the extra standalone player. >> It's the size of the Xbox. [laughter]
>> Developed by Toshiba, highdensity DVD was over three times the capacity of
regular DVD at 15 gigs per layer. And
like Blu-ray, it used a blue laser with a shorter wavelength. But how was the
quality? It looks pretty damn good, though. Of course, it's this should
still be like 1080p. You know, the
actual quality by comparison was pretty similar between the two formats. It was
really just the storage capacity was kind of the major factor. We're also
using a much more modern display here.
>> Yeah, we've upgraded to an OLED, which we know is not apples to apples, but if
you got HDMI, [music] you might as well flaunt it. >> Yeah,
>> the resolution is just so much better.
But you know what? I will say it felt a little more filmic looking on DVHS.
>> Yeah, more organic. And this one the mastering isn't as good, I think, cuz if
like we might see it here, that mountain still I can barely see it. And this is
an OLED with >> better than DVD. >> Better than DVD, but not as good as
DVHS. I think the DVHS was mastered a little better again. It's kind of crazy
cuz we we we said the same things when we did the video on it, watching the
hurricane on it. >> How good is DVHS? >> It's amazing.
>> Bring it back. >> We're bringing it back. We've got a player right there. We're gonna buy more
movies, right? >> No. >> And then hang out in your theater room and watch TVHS tick.
>> No. [laughter] >> Even the house though. I'm looking there again and the shadows. You can still see
all the like staining from the natural um like moss and lykan and stuff
building up on the the grungginess of it. >> You can tell they really lifted up the
shadows a lot. >> I was just thinking that on his left side you can like it's not nearly as
dark as it was before. >> And especially compared to the previous formats where his skin tones were so
red. Yeah. >> Now they're almost sickly looking or
almost green. >> Yeah, almost. >> Obviously, you could run into the same
issues with color grading on a Blu-ray, though. So, why did HDD DVD fail?
>> Well, failing is relative. It got more movie releases than video disc. Okay.
And [laughter] it sold about 3/4 of a million players,
including the Xbox 360 add-on. But,
yeah, you know, considering the development cost, >> it's a giant failure. Um, and it's not
because the HD DVD was bad. Look, this looks pretty good.
>> It's great. >> It's because the competition was better. >> Now, a lot of people liken the Blu-ray
versus HD DVD format wars to the older
VHS and beta battle. And the rumor was
that the winner was chosen in the same way by the adult entertainment industry.
But realistically, there was more to it than that. Development by the BDA or
Blu-ray Disc Association began as far back as 2001. And when Blu-ray launched
in late June of 2006, it did so with a
[music] vastly superior capacity to anything at the time. Even the single
layer discs made HD DVD sound more like half density DVD with 25 gigs. And then
dual layer 50 gig discs came just a few months later, enabling even lengthy full
1080p HD films to fit on a single piece
of plastic. And that's with highfidelity multi- channelannel audio and extras
galore. Wow. Now that's a menu.
>> Look at this. Normally I'm the one who's over the top on camera. [laughter] By
the way, was this intentional? I just I just noticed looking at the thing we're
both that I love this sweater. I love
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>> This is still basically HD DVD or DVHS
quality, though. >> I don't see a difference. >> It's still 1080p instead of 1080i, but I
mean, we just watched 1080p and yeah,
this looks good. >> And the thing is, just because they have 25 or 50 gigs on a disc doesn't
necessarily mean that they're going to use all of it. Different Blu-rays will
often run at dramatically different bit rates. >> I think that this looks slightly more
detailed than HD DVD, but >> dude, you'd have to pull out the
magnifier to really be sure. >> Yeah, I would still get a DVHS player.
>> Oh, come on. [laughter]
>> Okay, I probably wouldn't, but like you got to admit the DVHS player looks the
best so far out of everything we've watched. >> It had way more just artifacts and crap.
Okay, it did, but it also also it also looked more like an old film and like in
a kind of comforting way. >> The real kicker was that while
standalone players were super expensive for both of them at the start, Sony
dusted off their old playbook and
integrated Blu-ray into the PlayStation 3 for the starting price of $4.99,
>> which was a lot at the time, but it's still a lot less than buying an Xbox and
a next generation video player. >> That's fair. And Blu-ray has continued
to evolve. In February of 2016, Blu-ray
got what may end up being its final glow
up with the launch of Ultra HD or 4K
Blu-ray. Thanks to the even higher capacity of these discs, we now get
Atmos audio with positional data baked into the soundtrack, 10 bit color and
recre 2020 with HDR, mandatory for 4K Blu-ray, or even 12 bit with Dolby
Vision, which is optional. The question now is how does Rambo First Blood look
for the 10th time today >> in its final form.
>> Hey, the film grain's back. >> Yeah, >> they figured out in the time since the
Blu-ray that people want that filmic look. To their credit, 1080p is enough
for a clean image. >> Totally. >> But it's not necessarily enough
resolution to properly represent film grain.
>> Like it can end up just looking like digital noise. Whereas when you have
more resolution, you can have some of that original film grain. Oh, wow.
The lake, dude, >> it's pretty bright. >> You can see Yeah. And you can still see
all the detail in it. >> Yeah, you Oh, wow. I hadn't even I was
looking at the mountain again, but like Yeah, you're right. It doesn't clip nearly as badly in anything else we
watched. I can actually see all the rippling and stuff going on in the lake. >> It's kind of incredible to think that
the original film, cuz it's not like they can recapture that. the original
film had all of that dynamic range. >> We just didn't have a home format that
was capable of reproducing it. >> I mean, that's kind of the scary thing about uh analog just dying slowly. A lot
of film is just rotting in a warehouse or something somewhere. And if we don't
remaster it digitally within some time period, it's just gone. And their faces
look natural again. There's a little bit of red in them. >> Yeah. You could see that they have blood
>> flowing in them. first blood
[laughter] to. >> But you guys didn't need us to tell you
that 4K Blu-ray is the highest fidelity movie format. So, let's answer the
question that no one was asking. What's the price of a 4K Blu-ray player and
where can I get one? Wait, yeah, no, no one is asking that. Yeah, realistically
this is the last harrah for physical media home releases now that everything
has gone streaming and the industry's answer to crappy image quality appears
to be adding more AI sharpening and you
know hey the bright side is it means we won't have to remake this video in a few
years with one more format
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If you guys liked this video, make sure to check out the one about laser disc.
You know what? You wrote in the script my personal favorite, but do you have a
new personal favorite now? >> DVHS. >> It's just so good. I forgot how good it
is. This laser disc is cool cuz it's a big disc.