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two years ago my kids asked if we could go out and see Avatar too and I said

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sure but only after you've experienced

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the first one the way James Cameron intended in glorious 3D that would have

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been pretty easy they put it back in theaters to make sure that everyone

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could remember the names of the various Smurfs but then I thought why go out for

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theater when we have theater at home and

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I was shocked to discover that dozens of movies are still being released on 3D

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Blu-ray every single year all I needed to do to enjoy them was to convert my

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regular old home theater to a 3D home theater there was only one small problem

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actually a lot of small problems which is why we started filming this video in

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December of 2022 and you're only watching it now see in spite of the hype

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around it back in the late 2000s almost no new hardware supports 3D anymore and

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even if we did go dumpster diving on eBay most Home Solutions require active

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shutter glasses which give my wife a splitting headache leaving us with only

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one real option a passive 3D setup like

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they have in the movie theaters with dual projectors these unobtanium filters

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and a whole lot of Jank also a whole lot

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before you all come flooding into the comments the real reason that I wanted a

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3D setup down here was that retrospective that we did back in

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2022 I didn't mean to fall back in love with 3D but come on how many of you have

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fallen into the same trap it's just coffee right and who can blame me for

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getting sucked back in even without a Time of new releases there is a

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surprisingly Rich back catalog of 3D Blu-rays to enjoy especially computer

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animated ones that benefit immensely from the 3D experience except that now

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there's a giant elephant in the room see back when I had planned this upgrade I

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had a projection setup already now I have a TV which is going to turn these

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3D projectors into a gigantic downgrade

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for anything that's not 3D we're going to deal with that later first let's take

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a look at the plan the first thing we knew we needed was two image sources

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each with its own polarizing filter and this is where we hit our first major

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roadblock the Epson ls2000 that I used

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to have in my theater room uses a laser light source and after trying multiple

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filters both circular and linear we found that it simply couldn't be

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effectively polarized for context here's how that demo was supposed to go see how

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the image gets dimmer but doesn't doesn't turn green yeah oh I guess now's

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a good time to introduce our projectors since I've already wasted more resources

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than I'd like to admit on this endeavor we went for an eBay special now sadly

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the Optima uhd30 doesn't have lens shift

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to help us line up the images but what it does have is 4K output 3400 lumens of

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peak brightness which is really important when you're polarizing filter

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it's going to sap so much of your brightness and perhaps most importantly

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give you picked up for as little as $500 Freedom do each next let's talk about

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these filters careful with that one getting

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these bad boys was both timec consuming and shockingly expensive since you know

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no one bothers to build 3D projection setups anymore there are still commodity

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options available we found some pretty affordable plastic and acrylic ones but

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the quality was frankly terrible so

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after digging through countless ancient Forum posts and contacting all the

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experts we could find we made our way to American polarizers Inc who appears to

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be the go-to for professional installations with a price tag to match

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this is my first time seeing them who there they are this pair of clockwise

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and counterclockwise polarizing filters also a family pack of 3D glasses set us

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back over $1,500 and the worst part we are nowhere

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near ready to actually watch a 3D movie buddy I can already tell just putting

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these on these are way better than the cheap single- use glasses and the

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plastic filters dude check this out wao

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like it blocks holy cow the

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light oh dude this might actually be

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cool but it's 3D of course it's cool here's the thing though Elijah remember

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how we reviewed the script and everything yes this is the part where

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I'm no longer sure if what we scripted is going to actually happen

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oh yeah it did which sucks for anyone

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trying to make a 3D setup but it's good for me because it means I didn't waste

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my money here's the thing as it turns out there's some pretty dark magic

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involved in getting the polarized light coming out of our filtered projector to

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stay polarized after it bounces off of a

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screen and into your eyeholes now before you point out rightly that this is not a

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screen this is just a wall I did try using a proper screen my old one from

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Elon Vision but even though it mentioned 3D on the product page it turns out they

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were only referring to Active 3D like where the projector will alternate

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between left and right eye images and you have glasses that Alternate which

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eye is covered by that logic any screen is a 3D screen so it had to go and in

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its place I picked up this one from Stewart this is their silver 5D screen

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screen meaning it's been optimized for 2D and 3D hence the 5D now the

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information around how these materials retain close to 100% polarization a

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little thin on the ground but these guys basically have a monopoly on this stuff

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these days so after much deliberation I bit the bullet the

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$6,000 bullet a silver bullet you might say this has been sitting in my house

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for like I kid you not over a year it has not been over a year trust me I know

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because I tripped over it constantly it was right next to my car this better

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work cuz if not this video is done for I don't think I'm going to invest in

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another attempt at this why don't you just buy a clex projector why don't you

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just buy a CLE oh but I can't afford a coplex the theater industry is not

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hurting that bad yet soon yeah give it time oh wow the off axis viewing of this

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is flipping terrible like watch if I

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move the yeah look at that actually man oh wow

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even without the polarizing filter this screen compared to my old one has

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terrible viewing angles I mean you should never be sitting this close to a

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projector screen anyway here let's let's stand a reasonable distance away hold on

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hold on I mean that's better but I guess

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there's a reason they don't use silver screens anymore big moment here we go

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oh when were you going to tell me I

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wanted to see how long it would go okay big moment big moment now if it really

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doesn't work there's actually nothing stopping okay

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yes oh shoot oh it works real good

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really yeah okay check it out check it out She Bangs dude that's wow yeah

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that's really impressive that is pretty minimal cross talk I mean it should be

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this is a professional grade solution the Disposable glasses work okay with it

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I mean if it's good enough for the theater right like it's good enough for

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me uh okay well they have their own problems but

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anyway oh oh I don't have the filter on

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it again damn it okay you don't want to leave the

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filter super close to the projector like we have it right now because it'll

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actually heat it up and it can burn the filter so I had put it down for it was

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the reason I did that yeah these kind of suck by comparison you can really tell

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you know the difference between glass and plastic like it's a super cloudy

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image and it doesn't block nearly as much and it distorts it you see that now

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I really don't know how much of a guide this video needs to be because probably

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most of you aren't going to do this but our first attempt at finding polarizing

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filters used linear filters these are advantageous because they're cheap but

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they are disadvantageous because if you tilt your head while you're watching

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it'll actually switch which I can see and which one can't and it can also be

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worse for giving people headaches so um

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if this actually works and is awesome I'm glad we went with the proper

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solution with circular polarization now for the really hard part because we

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cheaped out on our projectors and we didn't get something with lens shift

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aligning these things is going to be as we say in the biz a

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b uh I think we're going to go top and bottom sure that works all right wow wow

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that's pretty great it's

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3D it's going to be great trying to line this up now and then we move in there

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and we're going to have to redo it you know my kids still haven't seen Avatar 2

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because we still haven't finished this project wow yeah we can go see it two

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years later every once in a while my son brings it up he's like are we ever going

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to watch Avatar 2 maybe block the bottom one and we'll try and match the top one

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to the bottom since we can't figure out how to Oh you mean just the IR

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I'm sorry we know the top of the image is kind of a mess but the bottom left

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corner is good enough for us to at least

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see if it works now we just need to figure out content now if I was a boomer

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or something and I had a Blu-ray player then this would be no problem I would

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just put Blu-rays in it but I don't and

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I'm not going to so how do I get the right image to go to one of my

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projectors and the left image to go to the other this actually required more

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tinkering behind the scenes than believe it or not anything else we've done so

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far I used our handy dandy video on how to rip your own Blu-rays except I ripped

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the 3D versions then I followed this Reddit thread on r/v to remux it back

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into a 3D file format using a program called bd3d to

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mk3d then we just need another program called stereoscopic 3D player from 3D

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tv. we adjust the output settings and Vel half frames on one side half the

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frames on the other side VOA what when you say VOA you're supposed to show it

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working oh well let's get it working then okay cool if thought all of that

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was too fast and made no sense that's okay we're going to have that guide and

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all the products that we used in the video description for now let's watch a

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movie oh God oh God oh that is not good

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oh we might have remux this file in the

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wrong format the cross Talk's very good but wa hold on no you can see it's split

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in half oh balls part of that whole BD 3D tool is you can actually choose how

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you want to split your frames Left Right top Center if you want to split it in

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half so half of it goes on one half of it goes on the other it took a lot of

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trial and error and depending on the Blu-ray file itself can actually depend

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on how you need to remux it okay so this

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one no good let's try the Tron legacy one that I know for a fact I got

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working oh dude dude it's totally 3D dude it's totally 3D holy crap dude no

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way that is like actually theater grade

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too dude this worked way better than I

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thought it was going to oh dude yeah

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it's pretty sick okay okay worth it what

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about the TV though do we want to permanently install this in your theater

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room because if we do I would say that

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we would need to get the better projectors before we rip your TV off the

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wall I would like to see a not liveaction film though oh buddy

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wow dude the she it's coming right out

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it's coming right for us I had about 4%

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confidence coming and filming today how did this not take off I'm kidding now

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that we've got it working the next step is the hardest part pulling that TV off

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the wall weighs about 400 lb mounting

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the projector screen then getting everything lined up just kidding we came

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up with a better way I found some random brackets in my garage and we turned them

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into a projector mount that is going to us to mount the screen on the TV I hope

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we're going to find out okay dude seriously though this is not as stupid

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as it might seem this is the original French cleat mount you can see it goes

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there like that and then just needs to hang off the TV this feels so wrong uh

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yes let me just drape my $6,000 screen over my $20,000 TV with nothing but one

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baby wipe in between that is

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perfect oh dude no problem

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obviously this is not you know an everyday solution you know it's not like

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oh yeah let's watch a 3D movie just to flip over to 3D mode or whatever like I

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could set this up in the time it would take to drive to the theater so like

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that's perfectly acceptable to me whoa

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whoa buddy off off off I'm off I'm off I'm off down it comes I'm off okay those

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did not clear oh those really look like

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they were going to clear they did not can you imagine watching

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the room in 3D on this I did not hit her Me by zo's ass just like coming out of

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the screen okay mine's in dude that's pretty easy that's a pretty easy hook

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yeah oh my

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goodness you got everything set oh my

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gosh don't act too surprised you helped yeah I I helped um basically we made a

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platform we got some counter balances um

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we hooked it up to the home theater audio setup and theoretically this is

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okay it's not perfectly aligned but hopefully aligned

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enough we're going to try it I have some news for you okay guess what's working

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the 3D projector yeah finally wow really

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that took like 4 years this is it huge moment two years

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in the making does it work stopped making it

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after like six months no we've been working on it the whole time here we go

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I think there's definitely encoding settings that could probably be improved

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yes it almost feels like it's

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alternating which frame it's instead of

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synchron them yeah so still shots are good but motion's a little rough now

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this is an older movie why don't we try something a little newer yeah anything

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in motion yeah it's a little problematic and the imperfect alignment doesn't help

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not helping but when they're in the center and it's

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just a static camera shot like that looks great that looks kind of awesome

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okay that's pretty cool these projectors for 500 bucks each dude like huh I mean

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you spend that much on don't worry about

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it oh buddy with the eyes that was pretty

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wow it's so hard to convince this over camera to you guys like how well this is

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actually working cuz you know for you guys it looks blurry and crappy and

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crappy put gles over the camera yeah it doesn't work that way it quite work that

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way we'd need two cameras and two glasses and then they would need 3D

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glasses and on their side now the moment

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that you have waited over 2 years for my son Avatar oh

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man 100% worth it 100% worth it dude

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dude this is insane obviously we can't

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sit and watch the whole film or whatever but but suffice it to say this is

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freaking awesome this result is so much

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better than I would have expected there's so little cross talk very very

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little I mean that's what happens when you're using professional grade Optics y

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so uh family movie night this weekend we finally watch Avatar worth the

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wait well okay don't yeah did I ever

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tell you you can play games in Stereo 3D no you can there's a huge library of

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games guys leave a comment if you have any brilliant ideas for the best way to

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do it but what I'm thinking is final form like the greatest stereo 3D gaming

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setup of all time can I have it uh well I mean it'll be in our house

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and what ultimately happened to it that's what kickstarted this entire

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journey and I'm not going to lie kind of

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glad it did