{"video_id":"_1Cb_dYx_Lo","title":"HOW is THIS for Gamers?? - Intel Core i9 9900K","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2019-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":637,"segments":[{"start_s":0.08,"end_s":7.04,"text":"all right well here we are again guys with yet another refresh of sky lake and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":4.799,"end_s":10.4,"text":"the script for this one which uh well there we go they've helpfully included","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":8.96,"end_s":16.08,"text":"in the box here is uh pretty much the same as last time","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":13.84,"end_s":20.4,"text":"with uh there we go","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":17.279,"end_s":23.439,"text":"so let's see here we got more cores","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.4,"end_s":26.56,"text":"and um we got some more cash to go with","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":23.439,"end_s":26.56,"text":"them and 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merch","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":632.24,"end_s":638.32,"text":"store which has cool shirts like this one and our community forum which you","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":635.279,"end_s":638.32,"text":"should totally join","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"all right well here we are again guys with yet another refresh of sky lake and the script for this one which uh well there we go they've helpfully included in the box here is uh pretty much the same as last time with uh there we go so let's see here we got more cores and um we got some more cash to go with them and uh really is that it no new process node no avx 512 support and uh wait i can't even believe this we're still using the same gt2 graphics engine with the same number of execution units at the same clocks but is it possible that there's more than meets the eye yes and i'll be telling you about it after these messages from origin origin pc's evo 15s features a smooth 144hz 1080p display with an NVIDIA gtx 1070 max-q graphics card it also weighs only 4.3 pounds check it out at the link below let's start with some good news shall we Intel has finally caved to the pressure or made the decision on their own using whatever moon logic that they use and soldered the ihs to the die which should mean that we won't need to keep delitting our cpus in order to get decent thermals out of them though i'm not not promising that i won't do that anyway what do you think pella should i do it should i risk a thousand dollar processor and you only live once right this is it but our delicious soldered cheeseburger also comes with a side of vomit milkshake because for the first time that i can remember we are actually losing hyper threading and some of the cash per core on the 9th gen core i7 in fact for now nothing but the new eight core core i9 9900k includes hyper threading technology so Intel doesn't screw me over here because my core i3 i5 i7 explainer is now inaccurate just weeks before it would have hit 10 million views so way to go guys thanks a lot the hardware mitigations for spectre and meltdown do make me feel a little bit better though these should take over from some of the software and firmware fixes which again this is a big should restore some extra performance per core speaking of firmware we've actually got a new chipset on our hands except that it's basically what we think the z370 chipset should have been in the first place with the only added features being usb 3.1 gen 2 support and integrated wi-fi via what Intel calls integrated connectivity or the snv for short oh sorry just kind of an aside here do you guys remember when Intel had simple memorable marketing like and centrino who the hell is in charge over there right now i mean even the core i3 i5 i7 nonsense was less confusing than this hot mess and at least 10 million people need i remind you didn't understand that on the plus side at least both the 9th gen chips and boards are backwards compatible with 8th gen gear and vice versa bringing us then to the elephant in the room more cores it seems Intel has finally had enough of AMD lording ryzen's eight cores over them and here we have not one but two Intel core series cpus with eight cores but with that said they haven't yet tired of AMD lording their more aggressive pricing over them because for a 16 thread processor you will be paying a nearly 40 premium to get a blue case badge making the cheaper eight thread core i7 possibly a much easier pill to swallow at least we think so because Intel in their infinite wisdom isn't sampling that chip yet so we were forced to pull a little trick out of our hats that we've used before so in our graphs you're going to see performance numbers for the 9900k the core i9 then you're going to see performance numbers for that same chip with its hyper threading disabled and its maximum 2 core boost adjusted to 4.9 gigahertz we're going to be labeling these results core i7 9700k fingerprints because from our experience in the past these results should be very close to the real chip but they aren't the real chick so hence the fingerprints all right here we go right away we can see that Intel's pr and marketing departments got at least one thing right over the last couple of scandal-plagued weeks this CPU is absolutely the best CPU in the world for gaming it's faster than the 8700k which pretty much qualifies it right there but the difference here is relatively minor a few FPS here and there and what's weird is that it seems to be struggling with directx 12 right now as expected the extra cores aren't doing us any favors in current gaming titles and we're pretty much relying on the extra 300 megahertz on the boost clock for our performance gains just like with the 8700k when it first launched it should be noted however that the rtx builds of games like battlefield 5 should take advantage of more cores so maybe we will see a bigger difference there whenever those builds show up moving on to productivity it's here that we see the biggest improvements over the 8th gen flagship and thanks to the extra clock speed the 9900k even manages to eclipse the more expensive core i7 7820x on Intel's high-end x299 platform that even extends to avx-512 enabled workloads like blender where traditionally Intel's high-end desktop chips dominate on a per core basis what's even more exciting for streamers is that x264 performance is significantly improved here with the new core i9 landing striking distance from the 7900x whose msrp is nearly double so the 9900k is looking pretty good so far and if you've been paying attention to the graphs you'll probably also have noticed that our simulated core i7 9700k is also holding up well typically outperforming the 8700k that it replaces making the loss of hyper threading confusing but less of a big deal from a performance standpoint than you might have expected and there's more to be happy about too thanks to the soldered ihs the core i9 9900k actually enjoys better thermals than the 8700k from last generation even under full load and sustained power consumption is actually down as well that's especially good news compared to the relatively power hungry 7820x but and it's a big but we haven't addressed the price tag yet at 30 to 40 percent more than the core i7 8700k and ryzen 7 2700x from AMD Intel's eight core 16 thread consumer chip is in a price bracket all on its lonesome somewhere in the no-man's land between the consumer and the high-end desktop markets which means that gamers are going to do a double take and anyone building a budget workstation is going to be forced to choose between per thread performance and memory bandwidth and pci express lanes because z390 doesn't add quad channel memory or more PCIe lanes unfortunately now that we have real performance numbers instead of the bunged up ones that Intel either through blatant malice or stunning ineptitude showed off before the launch where are we left here thanks to its bloated 490 price tag with limited availability potentially pushing that higher the core i9 9900k ends up looking less compelling to us than Intel's own core i7 9700k and this whole launch in general doesn't look like it's going to woo over too many pure gamers from cheaper lower core count options even from Intel's own lineup then for the streamers out there who are looking to upgrade honestly we'd probably recommend an rtx GPU for its stellar hardware h.264 encoder instead as for the non-gamers AMD is still fighting this battle from a position of strength ryzen still gives you more course per dollar it includes ecc support if that's important to you and it even brings more pci express lanes to the table but if gaming is just one of the things you do and you want the best of both worlds at least Intel has some response now to the fantastic performance of the r7 2700x in non-gaming applications i mean there is something to be said for getting to the end 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