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If you're a budget gamer,

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who's less concerned with 4K 120 Hertz

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and more concerned with running any games at all,

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then this video is for you.

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Riley here, who's actually gonna be doing some more work

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here on the LTT channel moving forward,

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was given the task of taking our previous $69 gaming PC,

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which frankly was barely deserving of the title PC,

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let alone gaming, and taking it out behind the shed

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and putting a bullet in its head.

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Oh, that's violent.

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And looky what he found on eBay.

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A full PC for, get this, $27 US.

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27 bucks.

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And can it game?

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Actually, yeah, kind of.

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And we're gonna show you guys how

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after this message from GlassWire.

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on your PC or Android device.

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Use offer code Linus to get 25% off at the link below.

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We always say that when you set out to build a PC,

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the most important consideration

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is what you intend to use it for.

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That's how you avoid spending too much

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or cheaping out and hurting the experience.

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So then, knowing that we weren't gonna be running

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Shadow of the Tomb Raider with RTX on,

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we set out with what we hoped would be a reasonable goal,

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running casual and eSports games like Minecraft,

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League of Legends, Dota 2, and CSGO

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with Overwatch for extra credit.

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So do you wanna run me through this beauty?

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So this is a Dell Optiplex 380, beautiful machine.

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It's got an Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 in it,

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four gigs of DDR3 RAM, and a 160 gig hard drive.

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That's 7,200 RPM.

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Beautiful.

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It didn't come with Windows 10.

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And a parallel port.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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You need one of those.

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Oh, yeah, there, buddy.

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Oh, yeah, buddy.

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Drivers for everything.

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$27.

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For 27 bucks.

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Yeah.

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Dang.

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Plus shipping.

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Right.

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Plus shipping was another 30.

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How much for shipping?

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$37.

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Oh, okay, well.

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Okay, in fairness to us, though,

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if we were in the US, shipping would've been way cheaper.

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Yeah, oh, it actually booted up.

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Oh, see, here's another quirk.

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Take a little bit there.

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No, here's another quirk.

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You have to plug the USB.

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The mouse into a different USB port.

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Oh.

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And then it works.

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Beautiful.

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Wonderful.

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Okay.

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Now, Optiplexes are more geared towards

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the corporate or education markets.

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So while they do tend to have decent networking,

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this guy's got Gigabit, which is nice to have,

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and reliable components, they lack some of the features

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that you would normally find in a gaming rig,

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like a graphics card.

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There is nary a graphics card

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to be found, which isn't to say, though,

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that we aren't gonna try to run games on it

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straight out of the box.

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So what do you got there?

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I have a crash message.

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Yeah.

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Oh, beautiful.

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Oh, beautiful, too.

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You've got matching.

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I got two.

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In SLI.

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Yep.

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Even though we did find drivers for everything,

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that doesn't mean that they're perfect.

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None of the games we tried to launch

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managed to successfully open.

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And among other probable issues, we did discover,

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that the G41 Express chipset,

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which is this little high-tech beauty right here,

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doesn't support OpenGL on Windows 10.

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No.

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With that said, I mean,

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what kind of performance were we expecting?

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Not very good.

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I just wanted to know, you know?

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I wanted to believe in something.

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So anyway, it's time to move on to our real plan,

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which is installing a graphics card.

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Right.

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Which, even though there's a PCI Express slot here,

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is probably gonna be a little bit trickier

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than you might think.

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Yeah.

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The only graphics cards that actually fit in the case

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have to be a low profile and single PCIe slot card.

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So you're gonna have a hard time finding a modern,

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any kind of relatively modern card

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that fits that description.

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So check this out.

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This was back in the era when Intel was still trying

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to flip the ATX standard upside down.

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So you notice this opens on the opposite side panel

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that most modern cases do.

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So a graphics card that you put here doesn't take up

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this next PCIe slot.

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It'll interfere with the CPU heat sink,

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the parallel port potentially, some of these capacitors.

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Like it's just, it's kind of a mess.

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Unless, ooh, you get a little creative.

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Now, our target graphics card for a system of this caliber

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would be something like a GeForce GTX 650,

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which you can find on eBay for anywhere from 30 to 50 bucks,

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bringing the total cost for this machine right in line with our target.

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bringing the total cost for this machine right in line with our target.

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bringing the total cost for this machine right in line with our target.

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bringing the total cost for this machine right in line with our target.

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Plus shipping.

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Problem is, that is not a single slot,

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nor is it a low profile card.

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Now, what we could do is Dremel out this part of the case

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right here, which would allow us to get it to fit in there,

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but it's a little easier if you just use

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a PCI Express extender.

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It'll only cost you about five bucks.

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You won't get like a fancy shielded one like this

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for five bucks, but you could get something functional.

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So, oh, it does fit all the way in.

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Extender in, card into the other end.

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We'll just kind of sit it in there.

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And this system has, come and look at this,

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has literally no extra power connectors

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other than a floppy power connector,

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which we could actually like cut off and strip

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and then like solder onto a piece.

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Yeah, that's probably not a great idea.

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And we think we've got a better solution anyway,

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but it needs an optical drive, any who.

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Let's check this out.

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Would you look at that?

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A SATA to PCI Express power adapter.

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It can fit, you just gotta believe Linus.

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Bam.

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Wow.

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There we go.

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Building PCs is fun.

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So that's it.

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We can fire it up now, right?

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Yes.

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I'm fired up.

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It's powered.

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It's plugged in.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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And we've got DVI output now.

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And we installed everything with the power cord connected.

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That's fine.

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Oh yeah.

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We probably shouldn't have done that.

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Wow, that is a dusty, gross card.

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Yeah.

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Wow, look at that.

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Just boots up fine, drivers installed and everything.

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It's like we've done this before or something.

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It's almost like we prepare these videos.

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Anyways, moving on.

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So once you've roused the system from its deep sleep,

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now we can safely attempt to play some games, I'd say.

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All right, play CSGO.

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CSGO, look, that was actually pretty quick.

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Yeah, I'd go with bots.

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Don't subject other people.

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Yeah.

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So what are we, what settings are we running at here?

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No, 720.

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720.

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720 low.

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720 low.

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Limbo low.

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I'm going right under this computer.

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What?

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No!

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Wow.

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Where's he going?

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Where's he going?

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Really impressive.

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Ah, I'm stuck.

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Are you, do you need, jeez Louise.

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Oh, were you using the table to cheat?

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No?

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Oh, jeez.

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So we're still running at about 50, 60 FPS.

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That's actually not too shabby.

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Yeah.

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Oh no.

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Yeah.

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See, you will get some frame drops.

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Yes.

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Cause the CPU, you're gonna kill them with a smoke grenade.

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Yeah.

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I just, I want to see what happens to our frame rate

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when we walk through the smoke.

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Okay.

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So we saw an initial dip down to like 30,

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but it's staying in the 35, 40 range.

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I mean, it's usable.

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It's usable.

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Yes, I would like to stop playing now.

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Okay.

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Do you want to do the next one?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Pretty good.

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All right.

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Well, next one.

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Oh, you're gonna play with real people, your teammates?

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Well, against AI.

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That's how you do it.

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Or do you want to play just training?

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No, fine.

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Well, they don't have to deal with this.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We do.

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Well, they just have to deal with that.

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We're gonna lag out.

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I don't know.

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I was getting pretty good ping.

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No, but we're gonna close the game.

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Yeah, we are.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Where's the gun girl?

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Camping Ezreal.

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So does everyone else have to wait for our Epic hard drive

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to manage to load it?

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Yes.

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Hey, we're not the slowest.

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Are we not?

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Check this out.

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This guy's at 40%.

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Master Yi over here.

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Dang, dude.

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Hey. Hey.

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Hey.

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Here we go.

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Whoa.

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Wow.

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We're getting like 90, 100 FPS.

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Look at those graphics.

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Not bad.

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Is this even 720p?

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This looks like 1080.

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I actually have no idea what settings this is at.

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This looks pretty good.

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Hold on a minute.

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Can I just poke around in here?

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How am I gonna kill them if you...

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I'm gonna kill...

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We're running at 1080, medium high.

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What?

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Dang.

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Wow.

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Oh, bad guys.

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For 70 bucks.

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For 70 bucks.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You can play one of the top games in the world no problem.

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I mean, can you even get like a...

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Like, can you even get like an old Game Boy Color

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on eBay for 70 bucks?

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Like, that's kind of what I'm talking about here.

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Like...

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That's true.

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We're gaming for 70 bucks.

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We haven't been killing anybody yet, so...

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Well, yeah, we should probably get on that.

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Boom, boom.

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Hey, Linus, watch this though.

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Watch this.

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Yeah, that didn't even...

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Even with a bunch of action going on here,

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we haven't dipped below 55.

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Okay.

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I think we've probably hit 50.

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We've probably had enough of this at this point.

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Okay.

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Minecraft.

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I should run on a potato.

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Confess, I don't know how to play Minecraft.

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Oh.

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Ooh.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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There's a horse.

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Can we go get the horse?

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Let's get him.

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That's a cow.

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Well, I didn't say...

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What?

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I said get it.

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I didn't say kill it.

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What are you doing?

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You said get it.

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You're a monster.

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What does get it mean if not...

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What's wrong with you?

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If all you were trying to do was harvest kelp

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and smack fish in the face,

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which I have done successfully.

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Picked up some kelp.

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I mean, that's pretty playable.

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But watch this, Linus.

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I guess you didn't see this coming.

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Let's go down to six chunks.

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Minecraft has a lot to do with chunks.

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Okay.

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If you don't know your chunks in Minecraft,

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you're gonna be in trouble.

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Thank you.

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So it's just a little bit of tuning there.

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Minecraft, 200 plus FPS.

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Yeah.

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I was like compulsively playing Overwatch for a little bit.

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Oh, okay.

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Is this gonna get you back

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on the...

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Yeah, maybe.

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I think I'm gonna make it to championships here tonight.

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This year.

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This is gonna take you all the way.

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Oh, I thought it just turned off.

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I was like, what did you do?

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The graphics card is just loose in there.

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Oh my gosh.

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Oh yeah, there's a missing blade.

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Two missing blades.

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That'll do it.

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You know what?

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I bet if we ripped off one more blade,

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that wobble would go away.

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Let's maybe not do that right now.

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Right, but then it wouldn't wobble anymore.

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So we're at 720, 60.

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Yeah.

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V-sync off.

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Everything, most, most everything off.

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Low, everything.

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Low, low, low, low.

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Off, off, low.

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Let's do mystery heroes.

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Is there actually a delay when I shoot?

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Or like, is that just an animation or what?

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Like- What do you mean?

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Like, do I have to leave the target?

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Yeah, you do.

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Oh crap.

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Well, that wasn't working.

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Why can't I see people through walls?

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Oh no, you're dead.

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No, I'm not dead.

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It's over now.

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It's not over now.

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Yeah.

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When you see, when you say May, it's over.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Jump Linus for your life.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Okay. Did I get one?

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Yeah.

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I got one!

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I got one!

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Oh, I didn't get a kill.

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Yeah.

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I got an assist.

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Okay, what's this?

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What do I do?

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You're Zenyatta now.

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Now you're a robot.

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Okay, telling me the name of the character

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and like what type of being they are.

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Press E when you see them.

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Shift is like a long one.

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And then-

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I'm gonna go.

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Left click is a short range.

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Hey, get back here.

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I've had enough of this.

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This is a bad, this is a bad experience.

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I'm a bad Overwatch coach.

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Bad experience.

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And you're the worst Overwatch coach.

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Okay, wait.

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So the frame rates we're getting

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aren't gonna blow anyone away,

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especially as we get to more newer, more demanding titles.

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And we're basically limited to 720p

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and in many cases, low details

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if we want things to run smoothly.

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But like if you're a high school student or something,

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this can be had for less than a hundred bucks.

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If you get like a gray market Windows 10 key

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or you can otherwise get one on the cheap.

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So you, I mean, you throw some emulators and stuff on here

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and this is a pretty freaking

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adequate experience.

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Adequate is the right word to use, yeah.

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There are a few things we could do on the cheap

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to make it a lot better.

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Like an SSD would be a great upgrade.

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And all you'd really need is an extra SATA cable

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since there is an extra port on the motherboard.

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But you would need a SATA power splitter to do that.

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Yeah, just make sure that if you're splitting

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one of the SATA power connectors,

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you split the one that's going to the hard drive now

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as opposed to splitting the one

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that's going to your graphics card.

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Even if your graphics card isn't super demanding,

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we're still kind of adapting power cables,

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which isn't necessarily the best thing.

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Yeah.

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And if that's not enough,

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you could still throw in eight gigs of RAM

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and a 750 TI or a 950,

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which might even get you playable frame rates at 1080p

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because again, we were at 720p low.

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You might end up CPU bottlenecks though.

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The fortunately though,

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this motherboard should be compatible

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with cheap quad core 775 processors like the Q6600,

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which you can get for as little as five

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or 10 bucks or even free

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in just like a bargain bin in some case.

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And you can throw that baby under there.

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This cooler will handle it just fine.

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And even if you made all of those upgrades,

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you'd still be in the like $200 neighborhood.

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So all in all, a pleasantly surprising end result.

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And while I can't say that you guys

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will have an identical experience

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because buying used hardware on eBay

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is always a bit of a gamble,

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there's also no reason to think

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that you couldn't build something similar.

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I mean, hey,

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if Riley, someone who isn't qualified

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to review the RTX 2080 can do it,

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so can you.

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Great work, Riley.

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Cause honestly, I thought this was awesome.

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This is an amazing value.

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I did too.

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For like 50 to 80 bucks.

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Oh, the value.

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Depending on configuration. Oh, the value.

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Not the video.

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I thought you were saying the video was amazing.

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I thought you said that.

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Are you really gonna play more Overwatch on this thing?

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Yeah, well, you've ranked me down.

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I gotta get back up, you know?

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