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we all make mistakes what a blue screened single graphics and

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when I built my personal gaming machine I made a few I bought a workstation CPU

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for no good reason I Hardline water cooled it which has caused me hours of

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headaches and I chose arguably the worst

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possible solution for storage an 8

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terabyte software Raid 0 SSD array they

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say don't let your memes be dreams you know what I say don't let them be your

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actual life the good news is I had a chance to rectify all of that in our

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epic tour of micron's Idaho r d facility I had the honor of manufacturing my own

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custom memory modules using engineering sample chips but micron's condition for

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that was that if they were going to go to so much trouble I had to actually

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daily drive them but my system doesn't support ddr5 so I guess I need a

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platform upgrade now the Intel versus AMD question was settled already in our

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recent drag race but it's taken until now to sort out all the other details

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and well I guess I'll just put it this way this is going to be a very

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unconventional video given that I am actually downgrading the system in more

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ways than one just like I downgraded this Segway to our sponsor let me see

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it makes sense to start with the very no not that no it was supposed to go into

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place like that that's what I meant to do but I

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let's start with the very worst decision that I made the eight terabyte raid card

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unlike a conventional raid card the aorus Gen 4 AIC SSD doesn't actually

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contain any raid Logic on it it just

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takes the 16 PCIe Gen 4 lanes that come

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up through the slot here and then splits them up into four quad Lane m.2 slots

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the advantage of this approach is that it's economical since you don't need an

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expensive controller on the board but the disadvantage is that this card will

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only work on a motherboard that supports PCIe Lane bifurcation so the ability to

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take a slot and split it into more Lower Lane count slots now some consumer

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motherboards support that but it's most common on workstation and server boards

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the other disadvantage is that because this is essentially just four

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independent drives the only way to get them to operate together is using

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software raid meaning that you can't just take this card plunk it in any

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system and assume that it's going to boot up as the eagle-eyed among you have

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probably noticed that last bit is not necessarily a problem today since I am

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sticking with AMD this time around but it doesn't change the fact that this is

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not a very elegant solution which means you're probably thinking one of two

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things right now either why did he do something so stupid when he knows it's

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stupid or that April Fool's video is real and the guy's actually an idiot and

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I wouldn't really blame you for either of them the honest answer is that I 50

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percent just wanted more capacity than you could get on a single m.2 at the

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time and the other 50 percent was straight memeing I absolutely know

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better but I mean come on when they said the PS5 SSD was faster than any pcssd

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they practically dared me to put one of these in my system also I couldn't

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resist seeing the look on Jake's face now to introduce the new life drive this

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is the sabrin eight terabyte Gen 4 plus it's PCIe gen 4x4 rated for 7.1 and 6.6

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gigabytes per second reading writes it's got the same eight terabyte capacity in

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a tiny little package like this and I don't have to deal with any software

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raid Shenanigans yeah this is much more sensible we were worried that my

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software raid setup would cause me one last inconvenience on my way out the

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door but thankfully with a compatible board and an old copy of paragon disk

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manager we were able to make short work of it this is actually booted to the new

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drive and we're ready to shutter down and move on with the build now a funny

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thing we noticed during the migration is that based on the data rates it seems

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like trim might not have been working properly meaning that while the raid

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card does use a full Gen 4 by 16 slot

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with 31.5 gigabytes a second of theoretical bandwidth that's twice the

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bandwidth of even a Gen 5 m.2 slot it was using basically none of it

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meaning that our first downgrade where I go from this to this is probably going

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to improve performance now that we've got a sensible SSD that doesn't require

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16 PCIe Lanes off of the CPU we can go

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with a much more sensible platform the heart of which will be the ryzen 9 7950x

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with only 16 cores this is our second

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technical downgrade I was running a threadripper 3960x before which is a 24

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core CPU but the 3960x is Zen 2. while

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this uses AMD's shiny new Zen 4 architecture meaning that even though

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the clock speeds are only a little bit higher the real world performance

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particularly in single threaded applications like games is a lot faster

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now when we tested the 7950x versus Intel's core I9 13900k the gaming

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performance was basically neck and neck meaning that when it came time to pick

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one it came down to price AMD has

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slashed the 7950x from its introductory price all the way down to 600 US dollars

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in the time since we did that video it looks like Intel has followed suit but

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we made the decision I've got water blocks and motherboards and all that

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kind of stuff anyway so I guess this is what we're doing you're probably wondering by the way what's going to

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happen to my old threadripper it's going to be going into one of our editing workstations since not only did AMD

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never provide an upgrade path for this platform they aren't even producing any

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more chips for it so they're really hard to get along with the price drop on the

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chips the motherboards for socket am5 have become much more affordable I mean

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look at this the x670e PG lightning isn't cheap it's 250 bucks but that's

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still half the price even a third of the price of some premium Boards out there

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and has basically everything that you could need 14 plus two plus one phase

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power design two and a half gig Lan ample PCIe and USB expansion and perhaps

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most importantly for me a gen 4x4 slot that's wired up directly to the PCIe

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lanes coming off of the CPU where I can install a Thunderbolt 4 card I have kind

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of an unconventional setup at home with my PC in another room and Thunderbolt

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allows me to have all the i o that I could want at my desk over a single

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cable I haven't even got my board installed yet and I'm already stripping it down I found something interesting

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AMD's x670 extreme platform supports

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more PCIe Lanes than their regular x670 and the way that they do that is they

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actually just wire up two of their motherboard chipsets in serial one after

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the other the reason I came across this is this is my first in detail am5 build

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and I was trying to figure out where to put my SSD so the way you do that is you

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check the block diagram for the motherboard and you're looking for whichever m.2 slots are wired up most

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directly to the CPU notice the block diagrams that there were two chipsets

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first one then the other which means that if I were to use this slot or this

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slot there's more potential bottlenecks as those PCIe Lanes make their way back

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to the CPU compared to this one and this one since this is a Gen 4 drive and I

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might want to add a higher speed Gen 5 Drive in the future I'm going to go

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ahead and choose the slot that's wired up through only one chipset rather than

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the one that goes through two of them it probably won't make any difference but

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you know hey if you want to be a purist about it then this is the best gen 4x4

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slot on the board this one also happens to be the only Gen 4 slot that comes

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with a heatsink not again like that matters but hey it's there oh next up

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we're doing water cooling here we go holy crap this thing is heavy apparently

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EK sent over their Quantum velocity to

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drgb am5 full nickel oh that explains it

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the bottom is machined out of pure electrolytic copper and then unlike most

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blocks which will have an acrylic top so you can see through them the top is more

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nickel plated copper I don't know that I would recommend water cooling these days

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the price to Performance just isn't there but you can't deny the looks and

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the advantage of this particular block is that it is designed for socket am5

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and the dye layout of ryzen 7000 specifically to provide optimal Cooling

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to be a back plate in here I don't believe it I think you have to

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disassemble the Block in order to install it what look I don't want to

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believe it either I know I know you'd think I was just finding an excuse to

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talk about the high quality ratchet and

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included bits of the LTT storage screwdriver but no I think I actually do

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need to do this I've never met a water block I couldn't figure out how to

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install I'm not about to start now I'm taking my shot my one shot my one

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opportunity mom's spaghetti right now yep oh I see because I gotta install

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these yeah yeah yeah I thought that you know there was going to be more of this

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and these were gonna be screwable into the back

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I might have to look this up installing the water block put it there and then

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using the included t7 L-shaped wrench

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fasten that wait what we brought Alex in as a consultant here to make sure that

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I'm not a complete idiot am I missing something here

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okay in the meantime let's talk memory these are super weird

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modules they are 24 gig modules meaning

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that with two of them which really is kind of optimal for am5 I'll have a

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total of 48 gigs of RAM my third downgrade from the 64 gigs in my old

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system but since they're ddr5 they should be substantially faster how much

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faster I don't know the Micron straight

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up memed the labels and while I have run them before I don't remember what they

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are so we'll find out once we Boot It Up of course we're not going to install them just like this as a gaming system

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we need some heat spreaders but not just any old heat spreaders will do we

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settled on these matching blue I have a

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bit of a theme going on here matching blue heat spreaders from some ancient

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Micron fully buffered dims from back in

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the day and there's a couple of reasons that we decided on an FB dim spreader

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when I said there were a couple reasons for using these spreaders there was

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actually just one reason see this little raised bit in the middle here that's to

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accommodate the buffer chip on these fully buffered dims

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now ddr5 doesn't have a buffer chip but what it does have is onboard power

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control so this is called the pmic and it seems to my eye like it's a little

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bit higher than the memory ICS themselves meaning that I wanted a

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spreader that would

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for that here's something I didn't really anticipate the memory packages on

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this are a lot lower is this even going to cover them also ddr5 is a touch wider

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so if I can just wow that's wild look how much this has

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faded there's no ICS on the back of this module so probably it wouldn't do

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anything bad but there's a possibility that it would short something if I put

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this on here like this what I'm going to do is I'm just going to put like a

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thermal pad back there and to help space it out this thermal pad is very sticky

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which is good that's what it's supposed to do right there yeah good good good

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good good good good good good good okay now I'm just going to try to hand Bend

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this oh yeah now I just got to put the clips on stickers back on stealthy ddr5

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nice nice

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yeah we figured it out this

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is how you turn it oh and you turn it this way so you're taking the screw and

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instead of screwing it in from the top you are pulling it into the threads from

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the bottom with this little Torx key

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that means that our stock backplate on this motherboard was perfectly fine and

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everything was fine all we needed to do was look more closely here

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please tell me this isn't cross-threaded we're going to forge our own path here

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new threads

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hopefully that was tight enough that will have to be drilled out this block

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is never coming off the sport now that the board's all geared up we are

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basically ready to do the upgrade huh

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not really the weight distribution is not what I thought it was yeah there's

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clearly still a lot of water in it though well I don't know you know what

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sure how bad could this be all right easy peasy no problem it's gonna be like

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the fastest system upgrade ever until we go to put in hard line tubing

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oh yeah also we're gonna need to water block this card

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oh I'm feeling good about this assembly of

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this card it looks like it's just a handful of screws on the back plate and

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then more screws through the PCB and this cooler is just going to pop right off please tell me it's easy to

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disassemble oh I mean there's some water but that's fine

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there was a spill at some point evidently for those of you wondering I

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am not going to be changing the power supply and the reason is that this

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particular 80 plus titanium unit from seasonic

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it's a thousand Watts that's more than enough for a single GPU system which is

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all anyone really does these days anyway so I'm just going to go ahead and leave

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it alone

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blow harder okay oh oh yeah definitely

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to blow harder I was joking following instructions yeah it's really going in

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the bucket

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it occurs to me that I don't know the exact height that that inlet's at that's

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what I'm doing this aha okay

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and now oh my gosh it is close to being

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too long hey look at that beautiful

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we definitely took one shortcut but

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In fairness to us this is a really hard Bend so we didn't

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we're pretty much ready to Cable manage it up and go given the last time that I

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daily drove AMD was over 10 years ago you guys are probably wondering what's

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the deal with the 7900 XTX in the build well there's a couple reasons for it

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first I'm in the middle of the AMD challenge so I'm going to AMD whether I

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like it or not and second why not AMD

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right now I mean yeah it's still expensive it's a thousand dollars for

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this card but for the first time in a long time AMD's not only competitive

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with the top offerings from NVIDIA but their driver improvements over the last

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few years have been unbelievable so I've

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already had this card in my system for at least a couple of weeks I just

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haven't had any issues with it so by all means you're welcome to stay Radeon 7900

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XTX it might not look new but it's kind of having a pretty new

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looking Vibe here David what do you think yeah you know I wasn't sure about that

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crusty blue memory but I am loving it it looks good it fits all your cables and

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everything looks awesome yeah it looks like oh we didn't put in the Thunderbolt

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card yeah oh and the 10 gig did you put the 10 gig in no okay so yeah they're

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still here there's still stuff for us to install yeah getting our hands on this guy was kind of a pain in the butt

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they're sold out everywhere so we had to go to eBay but it's an essential

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component of my build because I use Optical Thunderbolt cables to run my

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peripherals really far away from my tower this is a Thunderbolt add-in card

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and it's using the latest Intel controller codename Maple Ridge which I

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love because that's the town that I grew up in

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shout out Maple Ridge yeah all right anyway the point is it

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adds two 40 gigabit per second Thunderbolt ports supports up to 27 watt

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charging and you can use it to add Thunderbolt to any supported motherboard

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and you might be thinking really Thunderbolt on an AMD board the answer

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is yes not just usb4 actual Thunderbolt

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because the Intel Thunderbolt chip is this guy right here and while

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motherboard manufacturers are super cagey about this for some reason if you

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dig into the specs for these add-in cards they aren't Intel only and you can

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find lots of AMD boards that support them including this one right here the

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main requirement is that while Thunderbolt is PCIe based so

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theoretically those four lanes are what we're using to get all the bandwidth out

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of these ports the board has to have a special Thunderbolt header so I just

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need to go ahead and plug this guy

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Boop just like that so much for cable management and then it's weird but this

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particular card calls for a second USB 2

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connection to an internal header now I already used up both of my usb2 headers

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for my front panel connectors but here's a perhaps little-known trick

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you can convert USB 3 to USB 2 by simply

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not using all of the extra pins boom boom wow that bottom PCIe 16x slot

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is just 1X electrically that explains why we couldn't use almost any of the 10

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gig network cards that are out there because most of them use a buy four

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interface so a longer interface which you could absolutely plug into one of

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these slots but it would only be getting a quarter of its expected bandwidth oh

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except this one from OWC which uses a gen 4x1 interface which happens to be

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just about the right amount the 10 gig networking let's go ahead and put this

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little guy in here are you going to tell the people why you need 10 gig I mean I

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don't need it it's fast though it's really fast two and a half gig is such a

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good middle ground these days okay here we go let's fire it up

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oh wow those blocks look incredible you got

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a red light hey oh oh are you kidding me that's not good I hope it's not a RAM

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well actually I hope it is RAM that's probably the easiest solution why is it

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that every video we make turns into a troubleshooting video oh it's posting

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automatic repair wait automatic repair diagnosis diagnosing your PC hey this is

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a lot better than the red light and no screen we got 20 seconds ago now we blue

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screened sorry we lose an accessible boot device it's your drive blue blue

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screen yeah and it's an accessible boot device

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this is why you don't set up your boot Drive in the 4x2 grade zero

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configuration and then we transfer it to an eight terabyte Sovereign Drive what's

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the point there was none take that PlayStation we've got a couple ideas for

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how to fix this one is to just try the drive cloning process again and see if

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maybe something went wrong another is to

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try to drive as is but maybe enable AMD

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raid in the BIOS and just see if it's something to do with trying to load the

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AMD raid driver as it's trying to boot since that's faster why don't we do that

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first actually all right we're going to try NVMe RAID

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Mode oh yeah yeah nice yes oh hey what speed does

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this RAM run at 5600 CL 46 not the

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fastest thing ever but then it might be slow but damn it it's mine you know how

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sometimes a computer is not just fast but it's like Snappy and I could be like

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boom like I'm open Steam and then it's gonna be like wow connecting to your

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account boom steam let's go oh why have I not configured this to not come up

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it's like I hate myself I am all AMD for

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the first time since I was 18 years old

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is that wild or what like they're not just competitive on one because even in

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the dark times they would occasionally be competitive on GPU or like kind of on

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CPU but both so long

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casual 240 FPS in Halo infinite and make

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sure it's all cranked yeah let's turn it to 200 render scaling now I mean why not

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right a 150 frames per second Halo infinite 200

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we're running 4K boys come on come on

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come on get back here what are you doing yeah he's gonna turn around and kill you

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it's not gonna melee nothing I got him boom and he wasted his rocket launcher I

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consider that a win a one-to-one trade where you take out the rocket launcher

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