WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.839 and we're live on the new set 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:09.760 again whoa this is like the third set in the last 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:15.280 two months month two months are you counting the between two ferns kind of 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:17.199 yes yeah definitely yeah so fourth 00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:21.119 okay so we had the original set yeah then we had between two ferns temporary 00:00:19.439 --> 00:00:25.039 we had between two ferns deluxe but i don't think that necessarily counts 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:29.279 because it was like between six ferns um and then we had like the we're in a 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:35.040 corner and it's weird and then now we're here it was like the attack linked 00:00:32.559 --> 00:00:39.200 sideshow yeah like yeah tech dinked get out of here 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:44.960 get out of here relegated to the corner now dedicated hex wall yeah this is blue 00:00:42.480 --> 00:00:49.280 this is the new set the the orange chair is a little clashing uh though the white 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:52.160 and grey chair works pretty well uh maybe we'll try to swap that one out who 00:00:50.879 --> 00:00:56.879 knows it'll probably never happen doesn't matter this is the new set 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:58.879 welcome to the new gnawan shed bizarre 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:05.040 yeah it's weird it's it's also very weird because we've had the WAN Show in the 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:08.640 other corner of the office near where the workshop is 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:13.040 uh for the longest time not not the entire 00:01:11.360 --> 00:01:16.240 time that we've been here because rancho was technically like in some weird spare 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:20.000 room for a little while and all this kind of stuff but for many years it's 00:01:18.080 --> 00:01:25.600 been in the same corner facing the exact same direction and now we are like 00:01:22.960 --> 00:01:28.560 almost as far away as possible from that point at the complete other side of the 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:31.759 office should be quieter over here it should be a lot quieter and i think the 00:01:30.320 --> 00:01:35.520 sound absorption stuff in general should be a lot better um 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:38.400 we'll have to i wonder what the twitch chat is saying let's do a straw poll 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:45.840 actually i'm going to set up a straw poll straw poll dot me 00:01:42.720 --> 00:01:47.360 i want to ask people 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:51.600 whether it's like thumbs up or thumbs down for this set versus the other set 00:01:49.600 --> 00:01:55.360 all right do you prefer the old area do you like the new area 00:01:53.520 --> 00:02:00.560 a new set better 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:04.320 worse worse wait third option 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:07.200 i d g a f 00:02:04.320 --> 00:02:07.200 i don't care 00:02:07.600 --> 00:02:11.039 f whoa 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:16.720 i don't care fatso hey 00:02:14.640 --> 00:02:20.879 that's mean i resent that okay what the heck 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:24.400 what just happened i'm gonna refresh what is that there we 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:27.760 go all right i want to see what twitch chat 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:30.319 has to say um 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:38.480 there we go i missed the old set i expected that i expected a lot of people 00:02:34.480 --> 00:02:40.400 were gonna bring that up we fear change 00:02:38.480 --> 00:02:44.319 yeah a lot of people do fear change in general what do you think ed 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:48.000 new set old set which one um i'm working on throwing a light at 00:02:46.640 --> 00:02:53.760 you guys ed's trying to give us another light i think it looks mostly okay 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:55.760 no background yeah it's a little weird background 00:02:54.879 --> 00:03:02.000 yeah yeah get out of there you're blocking us instead of lighting 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:06.080 okay let's see way to go ed it's like you work around camera some people just 00:03:03.760 --> 00:03:10.640 aren't camera aware you know so we got lots of sweet oh wait 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:14.879 are you still talking about straw poll i am okay here we go we got nothing never 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:19.440 mind we've made it so a lot of people don't care 00:03:17.519 --> 00:03:23.040 majority people uh if they care think it's worse but 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:27.120 that's not super surprising because again people fear change we're gonna ask you next week we're gonna ask you next 00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:32.000 week again we're gonna maybe keep this poll going also the lighting is like 00:03:29.440 --> 00:03:34.640 really not perfect yet uh but we'll we'll we'll see how it goes i'm i'm 00:03:33.440 --> 00:03:41.440 interested in what people think i think it should be darker oh just mood lighting yeah get some 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:46.959 candles yeah the flickering yeah that phillips hue tech candle okay but now 00:03:45.200 --> 00:03:50.799 on to the actual show what do we have lots of sweet topics 00:03:48.720 --> 00:03:54.959 tons of topics we finally found out for sure what happened in the unfortunate 00:03:53.120 --> 00:04:01.120 uber accident from march where that woman was killed yeah we also now know 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:02.159 that apple knew that the iphone 6 would 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:06.239 bend they knew it was going to bend before it launched 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:10.640 now we know that that's sick that is actually pretty 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:16.639 interesting also nintendo bans all online access to switch devices owned by 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:21.680 hackers this is on a account basis we'll talk more about that later and there has 00:04:18.799 --> 00:04:25.919 already been gdpr complaints made against google and facebook in the least 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:30.720 surprising news ever this is the deadline day for gdpr so you should stop 00:04:28.080 --> 00:04:35.840 getting mass emails about it pretty soon here um i'm sure you 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:40.160 received a lot by the way we're updating our privacy policy i didn't even know i 00:04:38.080 --> 00:04:43.360 subscribed to you unsubscribe 00:04:41.440 --> 00:04:46.720 i did a thing with the forum which is it's gonna annoy some people for 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:50.400 suresies but instead of emailing everyone i mean so the next time you go 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:53.440 log in yeah it's just like hey i saw that and it confused me at first i was 00:04:51.919 --> 00:04:57.680 like god type the wrong thing in and i load it again i was like i'm gonna have to scroll down see my problem is i did 00:04:56.400 --> 00:05:01.759 the same thing so i think a lot of people are gonna be pretty confused you gotta scroll down and click the agree 00:05:00.479 --> 00:05:06.320 button sorry about that we're all in trouble a little confusing let's press the button let's go 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:11.360 uh oh really 00:05:09.280 --> 00:05:16.320 oh yeah it's a beautiful lagoon hold on never 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:19.360 leave hold on how do i i can't just 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:25.840 yeah okay what's wrong 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:34.639 will that do something hey yes yeah that 00:05:31.280 --> 00:05:36.400 will give you swamp butt yeah 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:43.120 oh i'm dead thanks ed killing me off in the intro 00:05:39.919 --> 00:05:43.120 maybe that's why i left 00:05:50.080 --> 00:06:00.880 savage jerky savage just like ed um moss backpack the black pack yeah and 00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:03.199 then a bloody game nutty gaming keyboard 00:06:00.880 --> 00:06:06.319 and we're back i'm happy that i fixed the uh fix the intro 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:10.400 i wonder if that's the only time that it's been broken and then came back to 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:16.800 life eventually um a new intro for a new beginning 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:20.319 speaking of what is that doing the reddening he's 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:25.600 messing with the light whatever keep keep it going speaking of uh not new 00:06:23.039 --> 00:06:29.680 beginnings old old old happenings what just happened you may remember 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:35.360 what have you done can i keep going i fixed it 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:38.400 travel back in time too yes september 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:40.560 2014 when the iphone 6 came out 00:06:38.400 --> 00:06:45.199 and unboxed therapy was like biggest video of all time drop 00:06:42.960 --> 00:06:50.319 okay yes yeah so there's a bunch of viral 00:06:47.840 --> 00:06:54.800 content videos and pictures of people like look at my nice new shiny iphone 00:06:52.880 --> 00:07:00.000 all bent to the shape of my legs my hips or jeans are so tight and then all the 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:00.960 iphone haters like me were like 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:07.440 and then yeah like they i've got an Android phone they don't always design things good 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:10.000 it's a brick it doesn't bend and then apple basically said like this 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:14.720 isn't a design flaw 00:07:13.039 --> 00:07:17.599 it's designed good it's just there's like some bad apples 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:21.919 out there you know we made a million of these things get it 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:25.919 but now information contained in internal apple 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:30.880 documents filed under seal in a class-action lawsuit show that apple 00:07:28.400 --> 00:07:34.880 knew that the iphone 6 and 6 plus were susceptible to bending prior to the 00:07:33.440 --> 00:07:39.680 phone's launch the company found in an internal 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:44.800 investigation that the iphone 6 is 3.3 repeating of course times more likely to 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:51.039 bend than the iphone 5s and not surprisingly the 6 plus is 7.2 times 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:52.479 more likely to bend than the iphone 5s 00:07:51.039 --> 00:07:56.160 that's kind of a weird statistic because like the big one's more likely to bend 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:59.919 than the small one no no kidding yeah yeah i was going to say that make 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:02.639 sense so then the phone launched and everyone found out they were bending and 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:07.360 that was bad and then in early 2016 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:11.280 many iphone 6 and 6 plus devices start to exhibit symptoms of what's called 00:08:09.280 --> 00:08:15.199 touch disease so you would get like a flickering gray bar 00:08:13.440 --> 00:08:21.199 at the top of your screen or your your screen would be working only intermittently or not at all yeah 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:25.199 and then it was determined by various third-party repair 00:08:23.280 --> 00:08:29.360 people that that was happening because the the 00:08:27.520 --> 00:08:32.399 integrated circuit responsible for transiting the touches 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:38.000 to code was getting lifted off of the board 00:08:35.599 --> 00:08:42.399 because your phone got bent so then the chip would get lifted off a little bit 00:08:40.959 --> 00:08:48.480 so then people started complaining about that and apple didn't say anything they didn't confirm 00:08:45.680 --> 00:08:53.519 that but they quietly started to put what they call underfill underneath the 00:08:50.959 --> 00:08:57.760 chip so that future phones that got shipped would actually be stronger but 00:08:55.360 --> 00:09:01.839 they didn't say that to the public they did not publicly acknowledge touch 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:04.240 disease until november 2016 even though it was may of that year that they 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:08.240 started fixing all of the chips 00:09:06.800 --> 00:09:12.080 and they only acknowledge it in november right because there was like widespread 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:15.680 news reports about the issue and then that at that time they said 00:09:14.160 --> 00:09:21.440 that they were going to start replacing touched disease phones for a mere 150 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:25.279 and that had previously been a 350 00:09:22.959 --> 00:09:29.120 charge and in its public announcement 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:34.080 when they said they were going to do all this they didn't actually say that they changed 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:38.240 that they started fixing them yeah they didn't say that yeah 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:43.279 they just said they're gonna replace the touch disease once yeah 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:48.320 it's like i can't say i'm surprised but it is really interesting news 00:09:45.760 --> 00:09:53.279 it's probably gonna hurt some at least some amount of the apple fanboys and but 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:58.240 the apple fanboyism hasn't been doing very well over the last few years well this is the thing it's just an another 00:09:56.160 --> 00:10:02.320 episode in a series of trust betrayals over the last while whether that's iOS 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:07.920 rollouts i've had all these bugs or whether it's what else did they do 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:11.600 uh naming schemes or 00:10:11.839 --> 00:10:16.720 help me out here the the 10 came out and 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:21.040 while a lot of people do like it there's a huge amount of issues with it um 00:10:19.680 --> 00:10:25.440 taking away the headphone jack pissed a lot of people off big one including 00:10:22.880 --> 00:10:30.240 loyal fans like like they i i know this is coming from a pc 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:32.640 fan and like an Android fan but 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:37.279 i feel like sentiment really isn't there lately like 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:41.279 back when i used to work in a computer store there was like you'd have the mac 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:44.480 people come in and they were really hardcore and i worked with people that 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:49.200 were there that were mac fans and they were really hardcore and it was kind of hard to 00:10:46.880 --> 00:10:53.279 debate because it came down to both sides were giving logical arguments it 00:10:50.880 --> 00:10:56.560 just was that one side put more weight on one thing yeah the other side put 00:10:55.040 --> 00:11:00.480 more weight on a different thing sure so that made it so they liked different 00:10:58.160 --> 00:11:04.079 things it was fine it was an interesting battle now it's kind of 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:09.760 getting a little worse because the stuff that they used to 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:11.360 trash on like like pc stuff or Android 00:11:09.760 --> 00:11:16.399 stuff for is starting to happen on their side as well and then i think that google's closing 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:20.720 the gap now that we have a flagship device that kind of represents Android 00:11:18.560 --> 00:11:25.040 being the google pixel then it's kind of easier although 00:11:22.800 --> 00:11:29.440 apple's still ahead in that and this we're talking about phones here let's 00:11:27.040 --> 00:11:34.000 acknowledge as a Windows user Windows sucks i'm like this close to the 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:36.160 switching to mac what what what version Windows do you run 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:43.440 uh i don't think i have the spring creators update on 10 oh yeah um that might that 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.720 might be why i shouldn't have to use like 2004 software i know to get a good 00:11:45.760 --> 00:11:50.399 experience like like 2018 stuff should be the best 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:58.240 stuff if you can make it work without being a pirate um 00:11:55.600 --> 00:12:02.959 you can get the the embedded systems Windows 10 version it's far better 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:06.399 or i would recommend uh the same situation embedded systems but you don't 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:09.360 have to be a pirate to get it uh Windows 8.1 00:12:07.760 --> 00:12:12.560 it's just a lot better yeah it's one of my favorite things is 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:17.519 when you're like hey i want to disable Windows update and they're like or 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:20.240 no it's like 00:12:18.560 --> 00:12:23.600 what that's not how a computer is supposed to work anyways i think we're 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:27.279 probably good for that topic no there's more interesting things about it okay so 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:31.920 bad in a court filing in the class action case apple's lawyers wrote that 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:36.800 its rigorous and comprehensive reliability test data proved that 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:40.320 enclosure bending and twisting cannot cause 00:12:37.760 --> 00:12:44.560 the the the touch disease issue unless the phone had already been repeatedly 00:12:42.160 --> 00:12:49.519 dropped on a hard surface and i think that's so interesting 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:53.839 because what what it says to me is like look 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.839 we made a design choice 00:12:54.480 --> 00:13:01.680 but that choice like sure it might cause bending but it's that choice is not 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:06.399 going to brick your phone and cause this touch disease unless you already screwed 00:13:03.920 --> 00:13:10.959 up by dropping it a bunch it harkens back to i believe it was the iphone 4 00:13:08.880 --> 00:13:14.480 circa 2010 where you're holding it wrong is that right 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:18.000 well i don't know it was they couldn't get good qual uh call quality because 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:22.720 there was a band of aluminum around the outside so calls were dropping and their 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:28.320 official response was making phones is hard we're really good at it but no one 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:33.440 could make a phone that's perfect so we're still the best it's just phones 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:37.839 are hard so they what they what they're doing and they need to do 00:13:34.959 --> 00:13:42.480 this is they need to continue to promote this and propagate this this 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:46.560 like fiction that we all buy into where apple has superior engineering as soon 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:50.720 as that myth erodes then what do they have yeah 00:13:49.040 --> 00:13:54.800 so i think this is very own brand for the lawyers to have this 00:13:52.880 --> 00:13:57.920 this statement that stance yeah that makes sense 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:03.600 um we're moving on to a hard topic now 00:14:00.959 --> 00:14:06.320 uh it's it's something that's difficult to 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:11.360 approach in general and people have talked about it people have mentioned it 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:15.279 in in twitch chat already asking why uh it wasn't like the first topic it wasn't 00:14:13.199 --> 00:14:17.760 the first topic because i just didn't necessarily think we would lead with 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:23.920 this i wanted to bring something slightly more upbeat to the table um 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:27.040 we have had this man on the WAN Show in the past who's one of our guests quite a 00:14:25.839 --> 00:14:33.440 long time ago when we used to bring a lot more guests on but uh john 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:34.800 totalbiscuit bane has passed away um 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:41.279 he has succumbed to a four-year battle with 00:14:36.959 --> 00:14:43.040 cancer uh he's just 33 years old 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:48.240 uh in in the notes but i'm gonna go off notes is talking about how he contributed a lot to gaming as a whole 00:14:46.560 --> 00:14:53.199 he was really big into the starcraft 2 scene uh his his youtube channel was 00:14:50.560 --> 00:14:56.720 pretty massive in terms of reviews if you're in the pc gaming community you 00:14:55.120 --> 00:15:00.240 probably know of him you've probably seen one of his game reviews especially 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:04.000 indie games especially indie games that was very cool because i really liked 00:15:01.680 --> 00:15:06.480 indie games for a long time uh very few people in the audience might 00:15:05.199 --> 00:15:10.000 remember this but i used to have indie game reviews from pax they got like no 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:14.959 views compared to the rest of our content so i stopped but still um 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.560 his wife jenna is is still around um and has stated 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:22.880 that she's going to continue the co-optional podcast as well as her own 00:15:20.959 --> 00:15:27.199 youtube channel so if you want more of that flavor of content uh be sure to 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:32.000 tune in and unless you have something to say i don't 00:15:28.560 --> 00:15:33.440 i don't think i'm gonna keep going um if 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:36.160 if you if you want check him out the the 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:40.320 youtube channel is still there his twitter's still there you can still watch all his old reviews of indie games 00:15:39.199 --> 00:15:44.880 if you want to check different things out um and if you did that if you consume 00:15:42.959 --> 00:15:48.959 that content today you'd still be supporting those who survived him like 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:54.560 his like his wife jen for example check out her youtube channel keep watching co-optional 00:15:51.680 --> 00:15:58.000 podcasts do all that kind of stuff um yeah rest in peace jon rest in peace 00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:01.920 john and moving on because i don't want to no 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:07.120 possible segway literally no no possible segway now no 00:16:04.959 --> 00:16:10.079 um so here's a story that we reported on when it first broke in march 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:16.800 the the accident that happened in arizona with a self-driving uber 00:16:14.800 --> 00:16:19.920 that uh again this is actually also kind of dark it was the first pedestrian 00:16:18.800 --> 00:16:25.040 death in a self-driving car case so 00:16:23.040 --> 00:16:28.720 there's there's been a report published by the national transportation safety 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:33.680 board it has all the details of what happened what parts of the car's systems 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:38.000 failed uh the human error the software all of it we know now 00:16:35.680 --> 00:16:40.480 finally so 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:44.320 there's really a play-by-play in the report which you'll be able to um click 00:16:42.800 --> 00:16:48.079 through it's source number three if you get access to the wan dot doc or if you 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:50.959 go to the rs article that luke has on the screen yeah 00:16:49.839 --> 00:16:56.160 you'll be able to click through as well from the first paragraph this plan doc will be available on the forum after the 00:16:53.839 --> 00:17:00.480 show by the way and this was posted on the forum by the way by spartaman64 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:05.199 thank you so for those who don't know there was a 00:17:02.560 --> 00:17:08.799 self-driving uber cruising down a i believe it's 00:17:07.120 --> 00:17:12.240 there's two lanes it's at night there's two left turning 00:17:10.959 --> 00:17:16.799 lanes and then there's a bike lane on the right and basically it's night time 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:19.280 and a woman crosses the street not at a crosswalk which is pretty much 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:23.919 irrelevant walking her bicycle and the car strikes 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:28.240 uh the woman and she eventually died because of her injuries 00:17:25.600 --> 00:17:32.480 there's also dash cam footage that um was released that shows what the car is 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:36.320 heading towards and also inside the car and the view inside of the car you can 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:40.400 see an uber employee who's supposed to be responsible for taking over in tricky 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:45.200 circumstances who appears to be looking down possibly at a smartphone and no one 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:49.520 knew if this person was being negligent or what 00:17:47.120 --> 00:17:53.039 but now we have more details so 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:58.160 this is just crazy so what apparently what happened was uh shortly after the story broke we 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:02.400 learned that the there's a statement from the producers of the lidar systems 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:08.000 that they believe that they had checked and that their systems had performed 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:10.160 properly and the report confirms that so 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:14.640 what happened was as the vehicle approached um i believe her name was 00:18:13.360 --> 00:18:18.080 elaine at first the vehicle detected just an 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:22.640 object this is at six seconds away from 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:26.640 collision then as it gets closer it's decided okay that's a vehicle and then 00:18:24.320 --> 00:18:29.840 finally that's a bicycle but here's the problem 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:36.799 as hold on at 1.3 seconds before impact the 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:41.039 self-driving system determined that an emergency braking maneuver was needed to 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:45.840 mitigate a collision according to uber emergency braking 00:18:43.280 --> 00:18:50.080 maneuvers are not enabled while the car is under computer control 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:54.880 to reduce the potential for an erratic vehicle behavior so the car sees that oh 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:59.440 this is going to be crazy uh it's going to need some tricky steering to for us 00:18:57.760 --> 00:19:04.000 to avoid this i'm not allowed to do that the driver has to do that so i should 00:19:01.919 --> 00:19:08.960 probably notify the driver there are no alerts set up 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:13.120 the system is not designed to alert the operator wait it gets worse so then 00:19:11.840 --> 00:19:17.200 you're thinking okay so but if there's someone in the driver's seat i'm just going to say this is still a problem 00:19:15.679 --> 00:19:21.039 because it the car shouldn't have to alert the driver they should be paying 00:19:19.520 --> 00:19:25.600 attention well it still should alert the driver because you could be yes but it shouldn't have to 00:19:23.760 --> 00:19:29.919 it shouldn't have to it should like okay no it should have to sorry but it it the 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:34.559 the problem should have still been solved right so you should presumably the person sitting in the driver's seat 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:38.400 they're saying they're thinking oh this looks weird i should take over yeah but 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:41.280 you would still like to see like you might be thinking when is this a 00:19:39.919 --> 00:19:44.400 situation where the car is going to do it or not it'd be nice if the car was 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:49.120 like baby bang and then you're like yeah okay i'm going to take over but it gets 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:53.600 worse because the driver is actually responsible for monitoring 00:19:51.360 --> 00:19:57.760 diagnostic messages that appear on an interface in the center stack of the 00:19:55.520 --> 00:20:02.000 vehicle dash and tagging events of interest for subsequent review that's 00:19:59.600 --> 00:20:06.559 what she's looking at oh she's looking down not at her phone i mean this is 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:10.000 as for her statement she did have a personal and a business phone in the car 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:14.080 but she claims she was actually just looking at the interface that she is 00:20:11.760 --> 00:20:17.600 supposed to be looking at yeah so now you've got a situation where uber's 00:20:15.840 --> 00:20:20.640 paying drivers to sit in the car and look at it and not look at the road 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:26.000 basically and then the car is not going to go ding ding ding look up 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:31.200 and then it plows into a pedestrian 00:20:27.679 --> 00:20:33.919 causing that person's death jeez like 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:37.840 you should have seen that coming that is silly designs that's like negligent 00:20:36.159 --> 00:20:42.480 that's a bad system presumably when these when the engineers 00:20:39.919 --> 00:20:45.440 are working on this system they would be you would pay most attention to this 00:20:44.080 --> 00:20:50.240 kind of case this isn't like an edge case this is the critical what could 00:20:47.600 --> 00:20:53.039 happen case your takeover driver is constantly not looking at the road 00:20:51.760 --> 00:20:56.480 that's not that can't work that way 00:20:54.799 --> 00:21:00.480 you could even like it you said something along the lines of like oh they have to make note of 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:03.840 different events and stuff like that i feel like you could just have a log 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:07.120 where you have some form of like controller that's on the steering wheel 00:21:05.679 --> 00:21:12.080 while you're like this type of event just happened this type of event just happened to just keep constantly keep 00:21:09.760 --> 00:21:16.000 notes and then fill it out later at the cameras and stuff at the very 00:21:13.919 --> 00:21:21.039 least it needs to go ding ding ding looking down yeah 00:21:18.159 --> 00:21:25.360 just crazy so now um after that accident happened uber 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:28.960 suspended its self-driving testing in lots of different places 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:32.000 um a hud would work someone yeah someone just said a hud would work yeah you 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:35.200 could have something on the freaking yeah i feel like the driver should 00:21:33.600 --> 00:21:38.400 definitely be able to be looking up the fact that they have to look down is 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:41.760 really stupid there's got to be some whether it's a simplified controller or 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:45.440 it's one of those like dial things that are super popular in cars so they can at 00:21:43.679 --> 00:21:48.799 least still be looking up and just have it post up onto the windshield sorry 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:53.120 continue uh just the upshot is that uber has now 00:21:51.520 --> 00:21:58.080 pulled its self-driving program out of arizona laying off 300 people 00:21:55.520 --> 00:22:03.039 and as far as i could tell i think that all of its self-driving operations now 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:07.039 are happening out of its um advanced technology center in pittsburgh like its 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:13.520 own comp compound or campus and no longer in test cities okay 00:22:09.919 --> 00:22:16.400 so that's gonna hurt yeah probably i 00:22:13.520 --> 00:22:18.720 think one of the biggest um one of the biggest things that's gonna 00:22:17.520 --> 00:22:21.760 hold back automated driving and automated almost 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:26.559 anything is companies being careless with it 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:32.320 and having stupid things like this happen um and i hope that the companies that 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:38.080 aren't being careless with it um and this isn't me elon musk jumping there's 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:41.120 definitely more than one um 00:22:38.080 --> 00:22:43.440 keep pushing forward i guess well almost 00:22:41.120 --> 00:22:47.520 every high-profile company has had some kind of story about this whether that's 00:22:45.520 --> 00:22:52.320 tesla or waymo and there's been a bunch with tesla too yeah 00:22:50.080 --> 00:22:55.200 it's uh yeah it's a fine line though because they're all trying to push to be 00:22:53.679 --> 00:22:58.640 first to market there's going to be a huge first mover advantage and there's 00:22:57.120 --> 00:23:00.960 something to consider that is like there will always be some amount of failure 00:23:00.159 --> 00:23:05.520 rate um and 00:23:03.360 --> 00:23:09.200 it's comparing that failure rate versus the failure rate of human drivers and as 00:23:07.600 --> 00:23:13.520 long as we're beating that then good but like i it needs to 00:23:11.520 --> 00:23:17.360 every single time that it does happen because it's an automated system we can 00:23:15.760 --> 00:23:21.440 go in and look at what happened with with a human driver it's much harder 00:23:19.600 --> 00:23:24.720 yeah it's much much much for sure and you rarely have a camera looking in the 00:23:23.280 --> 00:23:29.200 vehicle at the driver so you can't tell you can actually diagnose these problems 00:23:26.320 --> 00:23:33.120 and yes ideally solve them every iteration should be improved all 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:36.640 right yes yes exactly so not necessarily even solve it but like make it less 00:23:35.120 --> 00:23:40.000 likely to happen at the very least and that's on a system level yeah like if 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:42.880 you get into an accident you may never repeat that mistake again but that 00:23:41.600 --> 00:23:46.960 doesn't affect how i drive it doesn't improve humanity yeah right 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:51.120 but it's kind of like uh cars versus airplanes you know people feel unsafe on 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:54.159 airplanes yeah they're much safer but it's about control you don't control the 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:58.400 plane that's fair a lot of the time though like 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:02.720 okay so i've always found that you you brought up the cars versus airplanes thing um i've always found it 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:08.640 interesting that everyone's like oh have a safe flight have a safe flight everyone seems so confused i'll try but 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:11.520 then like if if you jump in like a taxi or they send you away in an uber or 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:16.000 something like all right get out of here like people say drive safe 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:19.600 yeah that's true people do say drive safe i just think it's like the like 00:24:17.600 --> 00:24:22.720 have a safe flight thing is like like a guaranteed yeah 00:24:21.679 --> 00:24:26.000 i don't know and what are you gonna do about it yeah what is that i'll put my 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:31.200 seat belt on yeah i will listen to that demonstration do 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:35.039 you i'll put that mask on before i put it on my kid that's the extent of safe 00:24:33.360 --> 00:24:39.440 flight that i can guarantee you where's where's your uh floatation device oh 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:42.799 underneath my seat usually nice sometimes it is the seat cushion itself 00:24:41.520 --> 00:24:48.080 i like when they have that little straw on they go the little website they pretend to blow 00:24:45.760 --> 00:24:52.240 it oh yeah if it doesn't inflate itself you can 00:24:49.919 --> 00:24:57.679 manually inflate your your thing have you ever uh flown with air france 00:24:54.960 --> 00:25:02.240 no they have a video it's that then the pre-flight check thing plays as 00:24:59.679 --> 00:25:06.240 a video and the video is like the people demonstrating are five victoria secrets 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:12.000 models and they're all being really cute and funny and it's very effective 00:25:09.679 --> 00:25:15.600 at getting your attention that's actually pretty funny 00:25:13.600 --> 00:25:20.159 that's a that's a i mean if it makes if it makes more people watch like you know 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:24.880 maybe it's not a bad thing who knows it's so it should have the same it's the frenchest thing you've seen 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:29.200 of course they did that yeah speaking of of course they did that i'm 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:35.200 gonna talk about Floatplane for a second uh it's a wonderful platform you should 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:37.120 check it out um i heard that if you uh 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:41.039 if when you go to watchful plane if you pop some popcorn and like dim the lights 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:45.200 a little bit and stuff that it will increase the viewership experience so i 00:25:43.120 --> 00:25:50.000 would i would recommend doing that the Linus tech tips channel on here has 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:53.840 been going ham so if you want to check it out you've got Linus tech tips tech 00:25:52.320 --> 00:25:58.559 quickie and TechLinked all publishing all under the 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:02.000 same freaking channel uh which i don't think was in the agreement uh when we 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:06.720 first started this so but if you want to 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00:26:43.679 --> 00:26:49.039 all but yeah anyways Floatplane's great it's three bucks per creator so far 00:26:47.760 --> 00:26:55.520 because everyone has decided to have the same price you can check it out Floatplane.com you can uh watch videos 00:26:53.600 --> 00:26:59.919 they look great they sound great uh the comment section is much less cancer than 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:04.640 it is on youtube things are good so yeah check out Floatplane and now for the 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:09.360 rest of the sponsor stuff we've got bloody gaming uh can you say your thing 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:14.080 play diamond there you go see i think that's actually pretty good i'm like oh 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:18.400 pretty bad though it's like the worst person in in england 00:27:15.919 --> 00:27:21.840 like who sounds like that i can't do accents at all in it 00:27:20.159 --> 00:27:26.240 riley is really good riley's really good at that that would make sense i could see him being really good there we go 00:27:24.159 --> 00:27:32.000 here's my notes uh today we're talking about the bloody gaming b975 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:35.360 keyboard which um isn't this one despite this being a 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:41.600 bloody keyboard i don't have it here today but uh wait no this is the b945 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:45.679 there we go which has the i can't even show you because under my laptop wait 00:27:43.520 --> 00:27:50.159 yep i can the numpad is on the other side so like this is where wasd is and 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.600 then this is the numpad i think that's way better for gaming 00:27:51.919 --> 00:27:58.159 it depends on so it's actually kind of interesting especially if you don't use the numpad 00:27:56.320 --> 00:28:00.799 that often for like transactional data detail or 00:27:59.760 --> 00:28:05.440 something but you might want it for macros yeah it's an interesting idea because 00:28:03.679 --> 00:28:11.120 you wouldn't normally have your hand on that side of the keyboard but if you're doing like accounting and stuff you 00:28:08.159 --> 00:28:14.240 would much more often be full keyboard when you're gaming you're very often 00:28:12.399 --> 00:28:17.520 just one hand so having macro yeah you just have all those that much more real 00:28:16.159 --> 00:28:22.640 estate for your macros and then you've also got this added benefit of having your mouse closer more ergonomic less 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:26.080 shoulder strain so yeah shoulder straightening like you're using a it's 00:28:24.080 --> 00:28:31.120 like you're using a poker or like a 60 keyboard but you're not a lot of people 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:34.559 will go with uh 10 keyless keyboards and then get a separate 10 key so they can 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:38.640 put it on the other side of their mouse so that they can be squared up 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:43.840 shoulder shoulder down to mouse everything's okay and then go over for 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:48.480 numpad but this is really easy too yeah just a different idea but we're talking 00:28:46.320 --> 00:28:52.080 about the 975 which is standard full size for those 00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:57.919 that don't want to switch form factors like me double shot abs keycaps 00:28:55.120 --> 00:29:01.600 less gamer front text kind of stuff and much more clean look 00:28:59.760 --> 00:29:07.039 it includes a wrist rest with two colors black and red and still has a 25 off 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:11.279 deal with promo code tech tips check it out on amazon or in the links below if 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:16.880 you are on youtube then next up we have the moss backpack 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.200 black pack the black oh it is literally called the black pack yeah i wasn't 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:24.559 joking i thought you just were repeatedly making the same joke you can't trust anything i say that was 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:28.880 fantastic i joke too often i was like it is it is black yes it is 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:32.320 in fact not on the inside yes okay this is one of my favorite 00:29:30.320 --> 00:29:37.120 thing about this backpack is that it's bright orange on the inside i've had 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:39.919 this with a couple bags it's it's way more important than you might realize at 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:44.240 the beginning because you can find anything immediately there's a power 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:48.720 cable in the bottom it's right there you can see it so easily it's actually great 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:52.480 i love backpacks that have bright orange insides because almost nothing else is 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:55.919 ever bright orange so if you need to find anything it's super easy it's also 00:29:54.320 --> 00:29:59.919 reflective so you notice how it like glows a little bit just it helps i don't 00:29:58.159 --> 00:30:04.880 know i don't know i like it a lot don't worry about it i'm into backpacks it's a 00:30:01.840 --> 00:30:06.640 thing but speaking of that power cord 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:11.200 you have the ability to plug your backpack in where's the external access 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.200 bit 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:20.000 i know it has it because i watched their video but i don't know here it is 00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:24.559 so in the side of the backpack you can pull out a power cable 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:28.480 there it is this can plug directly into the wall through a side access port so 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:32.399 you don't have to completely open your bag you just open where the power cable 00:30:30.399 --> 00:30:36.559 is then on the inside of the bag so you can charge your laptop or whatever else 00:30:34.159 --> 00:30:41.600 yeah doesn't it come with i thought i saw in their video that like 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.880 came with a battery bank or something 00:30:41.600 --> 00:30:48.880 i don't want to say it does if it doesn't here yeah is it in the notes 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:53.039 you know what it does have is a there's a waterproof pocket there's a pocket 00:30:50.320 --> 00:30:55.520 over here just for your water bottle so you put your water in there and it's 00:30:54.320 --> 00:30:59.679 completely sealed off and everything's safe and if your bag's too full you can 00:30:57.840 --> 00:31:03.200 pull that out and just have the water hanging on the outside that's cool i 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:07.760 like that but attached to that power cable is a standard power plug for like 00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:12.159 your laptop or something and then two usb ports which is actually pretty sweet 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:17.039 i like that a lot because then you can charge your laptop and you can charge 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:19.679 your mobile devices it has a pass through right here into the front so if 00:31:18.399 --> 00:31:24.240 you have your phone lodged up in the front or something then that will work 00:31:22.080 --> 00:31:27.520 um but yeah you can charge your you can charge a battery battery bank you can 00:31:25.600 --> 00:31:30.559 charge your phone and your laptop all by plugging your backpack into the wall 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:34.640 without needing to take anything out of it that's super cool if you're a commuter or something like that you just 00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:39.360 want to come home and plug the bag in you don't want to take all your stuff out that's fantastic 00:31:37.840 --> 00:31:46.080 um they call that a reach c power adapter 00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:49.919 pretty cool it's a 60 watt usb type-c port 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:53.760 for a macbook or other type-c device that is sweet 00:31:51.919 --> 00:32:00.159 but yeah great backpack feel free to check it out also 00:31:56.159 --> 00:32:03.200 last sponsor is savage jerky 00:32:00.159 --> 00:32:05.120 sauvage sauvage 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:07.519 uh savage jerky they've been on the show a million times you guys kind of know 00:32:06.399 --> 00:32:11.360 what it's about but i'm gonna go over it anyways jerky is made 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00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:47.200 for whatever reason the echo started recording at uh at a 00:33:45.360 --> 00:33:51.360 time that the inhabitants of the house did not know it was recording and 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:56.240 recorded a big uh conversation they had then it proceeded to send 00:33:53.919 --> 00:34:01.039 the audio files to a random person in their contact list 00:33:58.159 --> 00:34:04.480 and so this guy called and uh you know the husband's like 00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:07.600 what are you talking about you're just joking like yeah right haha good one and 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:12.800 the guy's like no you were talking about your hardwood floors like i heard it and they're like oh god 00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:17.599 and so then they caught they contacted amazon and amazon put an engineer to 00:34:15.200 --> 00:34:20.480 investigate right away and eventually a statement came out first the engineer 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:25.280 said like there will be a fix it kind of made it seem that he didn't 00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:30.480 just brush it off as user errors like we're gonna fix something but then the 00:34:27.040 --> 00:34:32.639 statement comes out and it's kind of 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:37.359 it's not user error but it the system acted kind of as 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:40.960 intended so here's what the where the heck are we here 00:34:39.200 --> 00:34:46.639 here's the here's the the events what happened echo woke up due to a word in a 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:50.879 background conversation sounding like the hot word 00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:56.560 then the subsequent conversation was heard as send message requests at which 00:34:53.919 --> 00:34:59.599 point the echo said out loud to whom 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:04.240 now if the volume was turned down they and they were crank far away then they wouldn't have heard that right 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:08.480 at which point the background conversation was interpreted as a name 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:11.680 in the customer's contact list so they kept having this conversation and the 00:35:10.160 --> 00:35:18.079 echo is just kind of picking out where it's like i think it said send message i 00:35:13.359 --> 00:35:19.839 think it said to craig and then 00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:23.680 and then it carried out that uh that request and so as unlikely as a string 00:35:21.839 --> 00:35:27.920 of events like that is amazon is evaluating the options to make 00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:31.440 the case even less likely at the same time 00:35:28.839 --> 00:35:35.359 like oh you have you have a smart home device 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:39.680 yeah how often have you had it spring up and do something weird lately 00:35:37.200 --> 00:35:43.440 seems like more than before quite a bit quite a bit so i've got my my google 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:47.520 home mini i've went into the settings and and 00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:51.680 turned on the settings so that when you hail it it goes bidding 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:55.760 which is off by default normally it just would light up and i had people across 00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:00.400 the house they'd be trying to hail it and maybe they're not very experienced with it and they wouldn't know whether 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:03.920 or not it had heard them so i put on the feedback noise but that's also super 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.960 helpful too because if i'm watching a movie and the movie says something like 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:14.079 um no hugo and that sounds like yeah hey 00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:17.119 then um i'll hear it and i can just say never mind and it'll it'll turn off 00:36:16.160 --> 00:36:22.079 again but um i guess what's happening here is 00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:26.160 the way that these that this that machine learning works uh basically 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:29.440 with this kind of thing is there's a probability 00:36:27.520 --> 00:36:33.680 that when i hear something it'll say okay that's a 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:37.280 that's a a 0.8 out of 1. let's say there's an 80 chance that they just said 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:41.359 what i think they said and then there's a decision threshold so 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:45.839 the engineers will say anything greater than a 0.75 is good 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:49.760 and so that counts as we're going to call that a positive so 00:36:47.839 --> 00:36:53.520 you can shift that decision threshold based on the stakes of whatever you're 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:57.440 talking about so if you're talking about a spam email for example 00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:03.440 calling something um letting in spam when it's not spam 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:06.320 that's not that high stakes because then you log into your email and you have a 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:10.160 sp you have some spam and then you're like oh that's annoying i'm just going 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:13.359 to delete it but calling it an email that is not spam 00:37:12.160 --> 00:37:16.560 spam is can be catastrophic because then you 00:37:15.200 --> 00:37:20.800 don't get back to the client or you miss an important appointment or whatever so 00:37:18.560 --> 00:37:24.400 what they need to do to fix this i think is they're probably going to have to 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.720 adjust the decision threshold so that they get 00:37:25.839 --> 00:37:31.119 less false or fewer false positives but then the flip side of that is you're 00:37:29.839 --> 00:37:34.800 going to be like it's going to be more frustrating to use hey and it's not 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:40.320 going to hear you when there's music playing or something like that so they just need to 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:44.400 dance around that yeah it's it's that's an extremely delicate 00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:48.400 and difficult thing to do especially because there's going to be so 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:52.160 many different environments that it's going to be used in there's gonna be so 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:55.440 many different accents vocal levels some people are quiet some people are loud 00:37:54.160 --> 00:38:00.079 like it's they're probably gonna have to personalize it on a per user basis 00:37:58.240 --> 00:38:03.839 just have it learn each one learn its own owner yeah that'd be cool 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.280 well i mean i know that the google one does that already for my voice they have 00:38:05.680 --> 00:38:11.359 a voice match so it's like when i say call mom it calls my mom or plays good 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:14.880 music to me is different than good music to my wife who's just listens to dead 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:18.720 most and that's it strobe is a good song 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:22.880 she learned that on piano we got a piano she only learned that song 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.200 it was like it was not easy so it took her like 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.359 months that's all she played and then she figured it out and then she never played piano again i was like you need 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:34.320 to you would learn the song faster if you just learned easy songs first 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:41.599 that's fantastic um speaking of fantastic or not 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:45.359 essential is up for sale like the phone company it's a rumor 00:38:43.839 --> 00:38:50.640 it's a rumor they haven't officially announced it but it's come the story's coming from 00:38:48.640 --> 00:38:53.760 you know those in the know yeah 00:38:51.680 --> 00:38:59.440 um i hate rumors so i'm not really that interested but apparently the next phone 00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:01.520 also rumor has been canceled also rumor 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:04.560 so i don't know do people care 00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:08.720 a lot of people seem to care i saw a lot of comments on 00:39:06.240 --> 00:39:12.079 the forum that were like i didn't buy it but i was interested in it and i was 00:39:10.720 --> 00:39:15.920 about to buy it or i was planning on buying the next iteration 00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:21.920 because i actually didn't really know much about the essential phone i was looking at it today and i was like 00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:23.280 that thing's sick yeah it's sweet 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:28.240 so i actually kind of recommended it to a few different people 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:33.200 or at least the idea of looking into it and comparing it for their own option um 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:36.720 but i don't i don't know general public wise like how much people 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:41.599 they didn't do a whole lot of advertising they didn't have like a 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.800 had a lot of fanfare maybe in tech circles but for the public 00:39:43.839 --> 00:39:50.720 not sure it looked pretty bold i mean this was the first phone with a notch 00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:54.640 it came out before the iphone 10 and the notch is smaller it's almost 00:39:53.040 --> 00:39:58.480 completely completely bezel-less it's a it's nice 00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:04.240 looking i don't care i care samsung or apple 00:40:01.359 --> 00:40:07.359 only or i don't care samsung or apple only what about like 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:14.800 google phones that that would be i don't care or i care one of the two 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:19.839 the samsung or apple only option is like a weird way of me being like 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:24.400 i'm not really that into phones oh okay because i i i see when people 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:27.760 don't really know phones too that much they're like oh i don't know if i should 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:31.119 buy an apple or a samsung because they just don't even like the 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:35.040 Android category is seen as samsung you know what i get a lot especially when 00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:39.359 iphone 10s were new this would be sitting on the table is 00:40:36.560 --> 00:40:45.440 that an iphone 10 no it's not oh what is that thing it's an lg v30 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:47.280 interest lost an lg 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:51.359 i could i could have a guy and get roasted at the bar you're trying to 00:40:48.640 --> 00:40:53.440 wheel some lady and get wait what got roasted 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.839 uh like she's like what kind of phone is that it's like oh it's an lg and she's 00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:01.760 like like iphone or die but 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:07.839 like delete your tinder you have an lg 00:41:06.160 --> 00:41:11.280 like i don't actually really want to have an lg but this is a sweet phone 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:15.359 like they just have quality control issues i don't really dig this is like 00:41:13.040 --> 00:41:18.400 my third one just incidentally and everyone's had like the same kind of 00:41:16.640 --> 00:41:22.640 problem like it doesn't detect my sim or something like that i really liked a g3 00:41:20.640 --> 00:41:28.079 out of lg g3 yeah i really like that phone so most people don't care 50 51 of 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:32.800 people say i don't care straight up uh 80 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:34.160 18 of people say samsung or apple only i 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:39.359 expected there'd be a surprising percentage there and then 31 of people care that's 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:44.640 actually way more than i thought well so that's that's cool the thing with the 00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:47.839 essential phone was that it was like the closest to stock Android you could 00:41:46.160 --> 00:41:53.359 get outside of a pixel and that's awesome amazing yeah and it was way cheaper 00:41:51.680 --> 00:41:58.000 eventually when it launched it was 700 bucks i don't think it could have competed against other flagships in that 00:41:56.720 --> 00:42:02.319 price range but when they were struggling and they dropped it to 500 or 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.880 even less then it was like a hell of a deal 00:42:03.839 --> 00:42:09.599 maybe they should have opened up with that but then they had 300 million dollars of investment they spent 100 00:42:07.839 --> 00:42:13.359 million of it developing the phone so they just needed to sell these things 00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:16.800 yeah central raised about 300 million dollars from several investors like you 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:20.920 just mentioned yeah tencent the least surprising uh 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:26.880 group on this list ever amazon.com and red point ventures as 00:42:23.680 --> 00:42:30.000 well it was valued at 900 million to a 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:32.880 billion dollars a year ago 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:38.160 so if it is indeed for sale today it'll probably be a lot less than that i would 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:42.160 also assume the same um current discussions are focused on again 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:46.800 this is rumors current discussions are focused on a sale of the entire company 00:42:44.640 --> 00:42:51.760 including its patent portfolio and hardware products like the original 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:54.160 smartphone an upcoming smart home device 00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:57.920 and a camera attachment for the phone essentials engineering talent which 00:42:55.839 --> 00:43:03.040 includes those hired from apple inc and alphabet inc's 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:07.280 alphabet inks google would likely be a part of the deal which is probably quite 00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:11.680 valuable do you think the the founder of Android who who made this um was his 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:14.240 name ruben andy rubin would also be in that yeah 00:43:12.640 --> 00:43:17.599 i don't know or is he the one selling it and getting the heck out maybe but there 00:43:16.160 --> 00:43:21.839 could be one of those like don't remember the name of it right now but it's those clauses where when the 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:25.440 company gets bought you have to like stay on in order to get the 00:43:24.319 --> 00:43:30.000 good chunk of the money i don't know golden handcuffs yeah people call that 00:43:28.319 --> 00:43:33.839 not necessarily handcuffs is a that's not necessarily with mergers that's just 00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:36.720 like any employee yeah like it takes four years for your shares to vest or 00:43:35.359 --> 00:43:39.920 whatever so you kind of need to stick around before you get the real money 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:43.119 yeah golden handcuffs is used for a bunch of different stuff 00:43:41.680 --> 00:43:48.550 just when it has to do with like i am staying basic money 00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:56.960 uh apple and volkswagen are apparently 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:59.520 gonna be making driverless cars um 00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:03.200 it's a interesting two names to be in the top the the apple making a 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:09.839 driverless car thing has been uh that was guest by Linus like five 00:44:06.319 --> 00:44:11.599 years ago or something like that um 00:44:09.839 --> 00:44:14.800 it makes a lot of sense like since they like design 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:19.040 the holy grail of design of industrial design is cars so 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:22.880 it's a pretty easy guess but it's been a roller coaster since they they did have 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:26.640 announced that they were gonna make a car that was gonna disrupt detroit and 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:31.200 just kick all the butt but then they scaled that back to being like 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:35.200 well it's actually really hard to make a car so why don't we just uh we'll make 00:44:33.040 --> 00:44:37.920 the internal components and all the sensors and everything for the 00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:44.000 self-driving and we'll partner with someone like bmw because tim cook loves 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:46.960 bmw or with mercedes and then those 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:51.520 companies were like nope because apple wanted to control all the data or 00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:55.359 some some other aspect that yeah those companies they bailed so it's like 00:44:53.839 --> 00:44:58.400 they're and then they had negotiations with negotiations with i believe lexus 00:44:57.359 --> 00:45:02.400 now they're on there like their fourth choice volkswagen's like yeah we'd love to work with you 00:45:01.359 --> 00:45:06.800 and they're not even ugh 00:45:05.359 --> 00:45:11.839 it's gonna be a like a standard volkswagen uh what is it 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:16.319 it's a particular model here t6 yeah t6 van 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:20.880 t6 transporter the frame wheels and chassis 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:24.880 of the t6 vans will remain but apple is replacing many components such as the 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:29.119 dashboard and the seats the computers and sensors and they're of course 00:45:26.240 --> 00:45:32.640 putting in a large electric car battery now this isn't going to be a consumer 00:45:30.839 --> 00:45:35.760 product oh no it's not like they're just 00:45:34.720 --> 00:45:41.280 they're making these vans and you're gonna be able to buy one this is a project for them to just start getting 00:45:39.680 --> 00:45:46.720 their feet wet with self-driving it's gonna be a van that transports their own 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:49.520 employees between various apple campuses so they can 00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.640 it's kind of close that's an interesting like hey if you screw up your 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.880 engineering project you'll kill all your friends 00:45:54.960 --> 00:46:02.960 wow uh yeah make make sure you do it well guys um yeah that's that's 00:46:00.720 --> 00:46:06.240 interesting i i was i was very surprised to read the like 00:46:04.640 --> 00:46:10.800 not gonna be initially commercially available except for literally just 00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:14.160 themselves line but that's probably a fairly sensible way of going 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:17.440 about that yeah apparently it's been quite a cluster there's no 00:46:15.839 --> 00:46:22.960 indication right now if volkswagen will be on for anything beyond the internal 00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:27.119 van experiment and according to the the uh article that we cited here from the 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:31.440 new york times there was a bunch of okay sorry someone in chat will they 00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:34.640 call it the bend wagon i love it 00:46:32.560 --> 00:46:38.800 i don't get it because the the the first topic of the show oh nice 00:46:39.040 --> 00:46:44.640 i like it i think it's good they would never call 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:49.680 it that that doesn't make sense that joke doesn't make sense 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:53.280 oh i disagree it's not good they would call that like 00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:58.720 impeccably designed engineered with purpose wagon 00:46:55.680 --> 00:47:01.440 it's a feature not a bug wagon 6. 00:46:58.720 --> 00:47:04.319 i wagon but so the the all the reporting came from 00:47:02.640 --> 00:47:08.640 ex-employees and they basically said that the whole project was this brutal 00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:12.880 executives executives leading apple's car project 00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:17.359 had told tim cook that the shuttle would be completed by the end of 2018 but that 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.839 deadline will almost certainly be missed according to one of these people and 00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:24.640 they also said that the project reportedly lacks a clear plan beyond the 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:27.040 vans including any near-term commercial goals 00:47:25.520 --> 00:47:31.040 so it's hey there's a big wave 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:35.599 but we don't really know what to do steve jobs is dead 00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:40.000 help us we're not making very good company decisions joni ive just wants to 00:47:37.839 --> 00:47:44.720 design fashion speaking of company decisions 00:47:42.560 --> 00:47:47.920 best segue amazon bans users for too many returns 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:52.480 boom cnet article apparently you buy you keep 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:56.319 yeah amazon is banning customers who take advantage of its generous return 00:47:54.319 --> 00:47:59.440 policy and closing their accounts according to the national retail 00:47:57.680 --> 00:48:05.440 federation 11 percent of sales are returned that seems like a lot compared to my 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:09.760 track record of returning things and 11 of those are fraudulent which sounds 00:48:07.520 --> 00:48:16.240 super coincidental but whatever uh they have 300 million customers customers are 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:19.119 not being warned of bans but amazon has reinstated the accounts of those that 00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:23.119 appeal convincingly yeah because some a lot of people are 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.040 really mad because they get banned 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:32.160 and they're like i returned six things in the last year 00:48:30.160 --> 00:48:35.599 which actually depending on how much you buy it could be a lot or not and then 00:48:34.319 --> 00:48:39.200 each one of those things had a good reason you know like 00:48:37.359 --> 00:48:43.520 it sucked it didn't the things in the box weren't 00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:46.960 what was expected or whatever so 00:48:44.720 --> 00:48:52.079 but i don't blame amazon for not giving some kind of um threshold like 00:48:49.520 --> 00:48:56.240 you need to if if you return more than x per year or if you return 15 of your 00:48:54.800 --> 00:49:00.720 stuff then you're gonna get banned it's obviously they're not going to give those numbers out because then people 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:04.400 will just game it yeah and just and right along or turn as much stuff as 00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.760 they can while slowly getting away with it so it makes sense that they 00:49:06.319 --> 00:49:12.240 that they would do that or like buy a bunch of really really low ticket things they 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:15.440 don't care about and then screw with the return policy on the 00:49:13.680 --> 00:49:18.640 higher stuff i don't know but yeah i don't get it it also makes 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:22.160 sense that if you like first of all they need to clean out this kind of behavior 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:26.000 because it's a lot of money with you talking about that many returns that 00:49:24.240 --> 00:49:29.119 makes an impact that's millions of dollars on on the 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:33.440 top line or bottom line or whatever line makes sense i don't really know finance 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:38.000 and it also makes sense to just ban everyone in one fell swoop and then just 00:49:35.680 --> 00:49:41.680 take on the appeals as they come in and yeah then a human can just directly 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:47.200 deal with it and then reinstate your account if if you're worthy of that something they 00:49:44.640 --> 00:49:51.440 can probably do and the wording of that made it sound like they're probably 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:55.520 doing this is like if you appeal you'll probably get back in well i wrote 00:49:53.599 --> 00:50:00.079 that okay that wasn't even copy paste well all right then but i bet you it's 00:49:57.520 --> 00:50:03.440 that way anyways um if you appeal you'll probably be fine 00:50:01.680 --> 00:50:07.599 yeah if you're if you're like yeah well i just didn't necessarily all problems 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:11.359 they'll probably let you back in um because most people if you ban 00:50:10.240 --> 00:50:15.839 someone and it was like okay no that's not true 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:19.839 because of moderating on the forum people will do terrible things and then 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:23.520 you ban them and they're like what so yeah no i don't know actually 00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:27.760 we'll see it's going to be easy for them to be to keep band the people they ban 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:31.599 who are actually offenders of this in a big way 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:36.079 like the people who are buying 800 things a year returning 00:50:33.520 --> 00:50:39.520 700 things or something like that or or just like repeatedly buying a tv 00:50:38.240 --> 00:50:44.160 and returning it so they can have yeah or some kind of other discernible pattern like that 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:48.319 yeah i feel like it'll have to be pretty blatant for them to like keep your ban 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:52.000 after an appeal yeah i know that they do they're pretty 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:56.319 savage with some other things i was talking to a friend who has an amazon um 00:50:55.040 --> 00:51:00.800 he's like an amazon seller for a business as his business and 00:50:59.359 --> 00:51:04.800 there's they're really strict about fake reviews right but what they're doing was 00:51:03.200 --> 00:51:08.559 like they'll actually send you a product for you to review 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:12.400 um so you bought you bought it from them you can be a real seller a real buyer of 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:17.359 the product and then you get the product and then you're supposed to give a five-star review and the way that um 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:22.400 uh they did this was that they gave discounts to every all of those 00:51:20.160 --> 00:51:26.960 potential reviewers because you don't want to like sell an item full price 00:51:24.720 --> 00:51:29.440 amazon takes a large part of that um 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:35.119 just to get this that's like a high cost for a fake review you want to get your fake review at the cheapest level 00:51:32.720 --> 00:51:38.800 possible so then you just if it's a 100 item you send it you give 95 off so it's 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.720 like five bucks and then amazon just gets a dollar or whatever and then you 00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:46.160 get your fake review so what amazon did is they went through and they said any 00:51:44.240 --> 00:51:51.440 item that was sold at a discount was all those reviews are gone now so you just 00:51:48.160 --> 00:51:52.880 lost like a third of your reviews good 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:56.319 i don't know i think that's completely okay because the amount of like well 00:51:54.720 --> 00:51:58.720 unless you actually just had a discount code or something like that that was 00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:04.240 legit and all those people were like super happy yeah i tried it for the first time 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:08.640 it's great i i just came to amazon.com or whatever and got my product and i 00:52:06.640 --> 00:52:11.200 loved it and here's a five-star review that's legit but it's gone now because 00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:16.079 they're throwing at the baby with the bathwater yeah okay that's fair i just 00:52:13.839 --> 00:52:19.760 something that drive drove me insane was i was i'm not going to disclose who and 00:52:18.720 --> 00:52:25.119 largely because i don't know if they ended up actually ended up doing anything with this guy um i know the guy 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.839 was there but i don't know what type of association there was i don't know if 00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:34.000 they were actually doing any business et cetera et cetera so i'm not going to say the company name but one year at ces i 00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:37.359 went to a company's hotel suite to film a video and there was a dude there and 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:42.559 he was hanging out and i was waiting for my meeting so i was just like hey let's let's talk i'm i'm 00:52:40.720 --> 00:52:45.599 we're both overtired we're at ces let's chat about stuff just asked him what he 00:52:44.319 --> 00:52:50.960 did he was one of the uh 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:54.800 like business acquisition guys for a company that post fake reviews oh on 00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:59.200 amazon there's a whole giant company there's a 00:52:56.960 --> 00:53:02.800 huge industry of like click farms all people do all days like create 00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:05.839 accounts and then like pages he was like essentially one of those guys and i 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:10.079 remember like i may have not been the nicest person 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:19.280 you are a dirt you are a single unit of dirt 00:53:17.040 --> 00:53:23.760 um because it kind of pissed me off but like these are absolutely a thing oh 00:53:21.839 --> 00:53:28.559 yeah uh they're running around ces with badges like this was this was yeah this 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:31.839 is a pretty big industry so i'm very happy that they're showing it i think 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:36.160 that in some countries it's like a large sector just like tourism is a big sector 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:40.319 in some countries yeah click farms is like a big deal in 00:53:38.160 --> 00:53:43.280 individual particular countries yeah just like scams are in some parts of 00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:46.480 western africa it's like we're all we're all making money just 00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:50.480 scamming north america those phone numbers that call you and 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:54.079 try to get your banking info hackerville hackerville hackerville is an 00:53:52.240 --> 00:53:56.720 interesting thing anyways the show is over 00:53:55.440 --> 00:54:03.200 oh boom see ya later 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:08.640 see you never whatever guys i'll see you next week bye uh 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:11.839 can i see what we're doing next week i don't know 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:17.839 better just probably you better just sign up for a plot flame club 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:21.760 and then get early access to whatever it is we're doing on plot plane club 00:54:20.720 --> 00:54:29.179 yes all right bye guys we're filming skyrim