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again whoa this is like the third set in the last

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two months month two months are you counting the between two ferns kind of

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okay so we had the original set yeah then we had between two ferns temporary

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we had between two ferns deluxe but i don't think that necessarily counts

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because it was like between six ferns um and then we had like the we're in a

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corner and it's weird and then now we're here it was like the attack linked

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sideshow yeah like yeah tech dinked get out of here

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get out of here relegated to the corner now dedicated hex wall yeah this is blue

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this is the new set the the orange chair is a little clashing uh though the white

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and grey chair works pretty well uh maybe we'll try to swap that one out who

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knows it'll probably never happen doesn't matter this is the new set

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welcome to the new gnawan shed bizarre

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other corner of the office near where the workshop is

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time that we've been here because rancho was technically like in some weird spare

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been in the same corner facing the exact same direction and now we are like

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almost as far away as possible from that point at the complete other side of the

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office should be quieter over here it should be a lot quieter and i think the

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sound absorption stuff in general should be a lot better um

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we'll have to i wonder what the twitch chat is saying let's do a straw poll

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actually i'm going to set up a straw poll straw poll dot me

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i don't care fatso hey

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that's mean i resent that okay what the heck

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what just happened i'm gonna refresh what is that there we

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there we go i missed the old set i expected that i expected a lot of people

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were gonna bring that up we fear change

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yeah a lot of people do fear change in general what do you think ed

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new set old set which one um i'm working on throwing a light at

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you guys ed's trying to give us another light i think it looks mostly okay

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no background yeah it's a little weird background

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yeah yeah get out of there you're blocking us instead of lighting

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okay let's see way to go ed it's like you work around camera some people just

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aren't camera aware you know so we got lots of sweet oh wait

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are you still talking about straw poll i am okay here we go we got nothing never

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that's not super surprising because again people fear change we're gonna ask you next week we're gonna ask you next

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week again we're gonna maybe keep this poll going also the lighting is like

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really not perfect yet uh but we'll we'll we'll see how it goes i'm i'm

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interested in what people think i think it should be darker oh just mood lighting yeah get some

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candles yeah the flickering yeah that phillips hue tech candle okay but now

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on to the actual show what do we have lots of sweet topics

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tons of topics we finally found out for sure what happened in the unfortunate

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uber accident from march where that woman was killed yeah we also now know

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that apple knew that the iphone 6 would

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bend they knew it was going to bend before it launched

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now we know that that's sick that is actually pretty

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hackers this is on a account basis we'll talk more about that later and there has

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surprising news ever this is the deadline day for gdpr so you should stop

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getting mass emails about it pretty soon here um i'm sure you

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received a lot by the way we're updating our privacy policy i didn't even know i

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subscribed to you unsubscribe

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i did a thing with the forum which is it's gonna annoy some people for

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suresies but instead of emailing everyone i mean so the next time you go

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log in yeah it's just like hey i saw that and it confused me at first i was

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like god type the wrong thing in and i load it again i was like i'm gonna have to scroll down see my problem is i did

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the same thing so i think a lot of people are gonna be pretty confused you gotta scroll down and click the agree

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button sorry about that we're all in trouble a little confusing let's press the button let's go

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leave hold on how do i i can't just

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will that do something hey yes yeah that

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will give you swamp butt yeah

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oh i'm dead thanks ed killing me off in the intro

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savage jerky savage just like ed um moss backpack the black pack yeah and

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and we're back i'm happy that i fixed the uh fix the intro

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life eventually um a new intro for a new beginning

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messing with the light whatever keep keep it going speaking of uh not new

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beginnings old old old happenings what just happened you may remember

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what have you done can i keep going i fixed it

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travel back in time too yes september

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and unboxed therapy was like biggest video of all time drop

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content videos and pictures of people like look at my nice new shiny iphone

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all bent to the shape of my legs my hips or jeans are so tight and then all the

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it's a brick it doesn't bend and then apple basically said like this

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isn't a design flaw

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it's designed good it's just there's like some bad apples

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documents filed under seal in a class-action lawsuit show that apple

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knew that the iphone 6 and 6 plus were susceptible to bending prior to the

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phone's launch the company found in an internal

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investigation that the iphone 6 is 3.3 repeating of course times more likely to

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bend than the iphone 5s and not surprisingly the 6 plus is 7.2 times

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more likely to bend than the iphone 5s

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than the small one no no kidding yeah yeah i was going to say that make

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sense so then the phone launched and everyone found out they were bending and

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that was bad and then in early 2016

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many iphone 6 and 6 plus devices start to exhibit symptoms of what's called

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touch disease so you would get like a flickering gray bar

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at the top of your screen or your your screen would be working only intermittently or not at all yeah

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and then it was determined by various third-party repair

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people that that was happening because the the

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integrated circuit responsible for transiting the touches

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to code was getting lifted off of the board

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because your phone got bent so then the chip would get lifted off a little bit

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so then people started complaining about that and apple didn't say anything they didn't confirm

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that but they quietly started to put what they call underfill underneath the

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chip so that future phones that got shipped would actually be stronger but

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they didn't say that to the public they did not publicly acknowledge touch

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disease until november 2016 even though it was may of that year that they

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and they only acknowledge it in november right because there was like widespread

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news reports about the issue and then that at that time they said

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that they were going to start replacing touched disease phones for a mere 150

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and that had previously been a 350

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charge and in its public announcement

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when they said they were going to do all this they didn't actually say that they changed

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that they started fixing them yeah they didn't say that yeah

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they just said they're gonna replace the touch disease once yeah

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it's like i can't say i'm surprised but it is really interesting news

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it's probably gonna hurt some at least some amount of the apple fanboys and but

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the apple fanboyism hasn't been doing very well over the last few years well this is the thing it's just an another

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episode in a series of trust betrayals over the last while whether that's iOS

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rollouts i've had all these bugs or whether it's what else did they do

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help me out here the the 10 came out and

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while a lot of people do like it there's a huge amount of issues with it um

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taking away the headphone jack pissed a lot of people off big one including

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loyal fans like like they i i know this is coming from a pc

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fan and like an Android fan but

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people come in and they were really hardcore and i worked with people that

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were there that were mac fans and they were really hardcore and it was kind of hard to

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debate because it came down to both sides were giving logical arguments it

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just was that one side put more weight on one thing yeah the other side put

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more weight on a different thing sure so that made it so they liked different

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things it was fine it was an interesting battle now it's kind of

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getting a little worse because the stuff that they used to

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trash on like like pc stuff or Android

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stuff for is starting to happen on their side as well and then i think that google's closing

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the gap now that we have a flagship device that kind of represents Android

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being the google pixel then it's kind of easier although

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apple's still ahead in that and this we're talking about phones here let's

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acknowledge as a Windows user Windows sucks i'm like this close to the

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switching to mac what what what version Windows do you run

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might be why i shouldn't have to use like 2004 software i know to get a good

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experience like like 2018 stuff should be the best

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stuff if you can make it work without being a pirate um

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you can get the the embedded systems Windows 10 version it's far better

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when you're like hey i want to disable Windows update and they're like or

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what that's not how a computer is supposed to work anyways i think we're

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probably good for that topic no there's more interesting things about it okay so

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bad in a court filing in the class action case apple's lawyers wrote that

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its rigorous and comprehensive reliability test data proved that

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enclosure bending and twisting cannot cause

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the the the touch disease issue unless the phone had already been repeatedly

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dropped on a hard surface and i think that's so interesting

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but that choice like sure it might cause bending but it's that choice is not

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going to brick your phone and cause this touch disease unless you already screwed

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circa 2010 where you're holding it wrong is that right

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there was a band of aluminum around the outside so calls were dropping and their

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official response was making phones is hard we're really good at it but no one

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could make a phone that's perfect so we're still the best it's just phones

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are hard so they what they what they're doing and they need to do

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this is they need to continue to promote this and propagate this this

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like fiction that we all buy into where apple has superior engineering as soon

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as that myth erodes then what do they have yeah

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this statement that stance yeah that makes sense

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long time ago when we used to bring a lot more guests on but uh john

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he has succumbed to a four-year battle with

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cancer uh he's just 33 years old

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uh in in the notes but i'm gonna go off notes is talking about how he contributed a lot to gaming as a whole

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he was really big into the starcraft 2 scene uh his his youtube channel was

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pretty massive in terms of reviews if you're in the pc gaming community you

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indie games especially indie games that was very cool because i really liked

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indie games for a long time uh very few people in the audience might

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remember this but i used to have indie game reviews from pax they got like no

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his wife jenna is is still around um and has stated

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that she's going to continue the co-optional podcast as well as her own

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youtube channel so if you want more of that flavor of content uh be sure to

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i don't think i'm gonna keep going um if

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if you want to check different things out um and if you did that if you consume

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that content today you'd still be supporting those who survived him like

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his like his wife jen for example check out her youtube channel keep watching co-optional

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podcasts do all that kind of stuff um yeah rest in peace jon rest in peace

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john and moving on because i don't want to no

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possible segway literally no no possible segway now no

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the the accident that happened in arizona with a self-driving uber

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that uh again this is actually also kind of dark it was the first pedestrian

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death in a self-driving car case so

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there's there's been a report published by the national transportation safety

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board it has all the details of what happened what parts of the car's systems

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failed uh the human error the software all of it we know now

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finally so

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there's really a play-by-play in the report which you'll be able to um click

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through it's source number three if you get access to the wan dot doc or if you

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go to the rs article that luke has on the screen yeah

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you'll be able to click through as well from the first paragraph this plan doc will be available on the forum after the

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show by the way and this was posted on the forum by the way by spartaman64

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thank you so for those who don't know there was a

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self-driving uber cruising down a i believe it's

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there's two lanes it's at night there's two left turning

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lanes and then there's a bike lane on the right and basically it's night time

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and a woman crosses the street not at a crosswalk which is pretty much

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irrelevant walking her bicycle and the car strikes

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uh the woman and she eventually died because of her injuries

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there's also dash cam footage that um was released that shows what the car is

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heading towards and also inside the car and the view inside of the car you can

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see an uber employee who's supposed to be responsible for taking over in tricky

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circumstances who appears to be looking down possibly at a smartphone and no one

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knew if this person was being negligent or what

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but now we have more details so

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this is just crazy so what apparently what happened was uh shortly after the story broke we

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learned that the there's a statement from the producers of the lidar systems

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that they believe that they had checked and that their systems had performed

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properly and the report confirms that so

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what happened was as the vehicle approached um i believe her name was

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elaine at first the vehicle detected just an

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object this is at six seconds away from

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collision then as it gets closer it's decided okay that's a vehicle and then

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finally that's a bicycle but here's the problem

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as hold on at 1.3 seconds before impact the

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self-driving system determined that an emergency braking maneuver was needed to

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mitigate a collision according to uber emergency braking

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maneuvers are not enabled while the car is under computer control

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to reduce the potential for an erratic vehicle behavior so the car sees that oh

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this is going to be crazy uh it's going to need some tricky steering to for us

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to avoid this i'm not allowed to do that the driver has to do that so i should

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probably notify the driver there are no alerts set up

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the system is not designed to alert the operator wait it gets worse so then

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you're thinking okay so but if there's someone in the driver's seat i'm just going to say this is still a problem

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because it the car shouldn't have to alert the driver they should be paying

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attention well it still should alert the driver because you could be yes but it shouldn't have to

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it shouldn't have to it should like okay no it should have to sorry but it it the

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the problem should have still been solved right so you should presumably the person sitting in the driver's seat

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they're saying they're thinking oh this looks weird i should take over yeah but

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you would still like to see like you might be thinking when is this a

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situation where the car is going to do it or not it'd be nice if the car was

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like baby bang and then you're like yeah okay i'm going to take over but it gets

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worse because the driver is actually responsible for monitoring

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diagnostic messages that appear on an interface in the center stack of the

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vehicle dash and tagging events of interest for subsequent review that's

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what she's looking at oh she's looking down not at her phone i mean this is

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as for her statement she did have a personal and a business phone in the car

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but she claims she was actually just looking at the interface that she is

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supposed to be looking at yeah so now you've got a situation where uber's

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paying drivers to sit in the car and look at it and not look at the road

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basically and then the car is not going to go ding ding ding look up

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and then it plows into a pedestrian

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causing that person's death jeez like

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you should have seen that coming that is silly designs that's like negligent

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that's a bad system presumably when these when the engineers

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are working on this system they would be you would pay most attention to this

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kind of case this isn't like an edge case this is the critical what could

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happen case your takeover driver is constantly not looking at the road

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that's not that can't work that way

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you could even like it you said something along the lines of like oh they have to make note of

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different events and stuff like that i feel like you could just have a log

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where you have some form of like controller that's on the steering wheel

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while you're like this type of event just happened this type of event just happened to just keep constantly keep

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notes and then fill it out later at the cameras and stuff at the very

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least it needs to go ding ding ding looking down yeah

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just crazy so now um after that accident happened uber

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suspended its self-driving testing in lots of different places

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um a hud would work someone yeah someone just said a hud would work yeah you

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could have something on the freaking yeah i feel like the driver should

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definitely be able to be looking up the fact that they have to look down is

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really stupid there's got to be some whether it's a simplified controller or

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it's one of those like dial things that are super popular in cars so they can at

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least still be looking up and just have it post up onto the windshield sorry

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continue uh just the upshot is that uber has now

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pulled its self-driving program out of arizona laying off 300 people

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and as far as i could tell i think that all of its self-driving operations now

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are happening out of its um advanced technology center in pittsburgh like its

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own comp compound or campus and no longer in test cities okay

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so that's gonna hurt yeah probably i

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think one of the biggest um one of the biggest things that's gonna

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hold back automated driving and automated almost

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anything is companies being careless with it

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and having stupid things like this happen um and i hope that the companies that

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aren't being careless with it um and this isn't me elon musk jumping there's

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definitely more than one um

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keep pushing forward i guess well almost

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every high-profile company has had some kind of story about this whether that's

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tesla or waymo and there's been a bunch with tesla too yeah

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it's uh yeah it's a fine line though because they're all trying to push to be

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first to market there's going to be a huge first mover advantage and there's

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something to consider that is like there will always be some amount of failure

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rate um and

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it's comparing that failure rate versus the failure rate of human drivers and as

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long as we're beating that then good but like i it needs to

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every single time that it does happen because it's an automated system we can

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go in and look at what happened with with a human driver it's much harder

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yeah it's much much much for sure and you rarely have a camera looking in the

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vehicle at the driver so you can't tell you can actually diagnose these problems

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and yes ideally solve them every iteration should be improved all

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right yes yes exactly so not necessarily even solve it but like make it less

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likely to happen at the very least and that's on a system level yeah like if

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you get into an accident you may never repeat that mistake again but that

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doesn't affect how i drive it doesn't improve humanity yeah right

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but it's kind of like uh cars versus airplanes you know people feel unsafe on

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airplanes yeah they're much safer but it's about control you don't control the

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plane that's fair a lot of the time though like

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okay so i've always found that you you brought up the cars versus airplanes thing um i've always found it

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interesting that everyone's like oh have a safe flight have a safe flight everyone seems so confused i'll try but

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then like if if you jump in like a taxi or they send you away in an uber or

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something like all right get out of here like people say drive safe

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yeah that's true people do say drive safe i just think it's like the like

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have a safe flight thing is like like a guaranteed yeah

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i don't know and what are you gonna do about it yeah what is that i'll put my

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seat belt on yeah i will listen to that demonstration do

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you i'll put that mask on before i put it on my kid that's the extent of safe

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flight that i can guarantee you where's where's your uh floatation device oh

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underneath my seat usually nice sometimes it is the seat cushion itself

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i like when they have that little straw on they go the little website they pretend to blow

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it oh yeah if it doesn't inflate itself you can

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manually inflate your your thing have you ever uh flown with air france

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no they have a video it's that then the pre-flight check thing plays as

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a video and the video is like the people demonstrating are five victoria secrets

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models and they're all being really cute and funny and it's very effective

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at getting your attention that's actually pretty funny

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that's a that's a i mean if it makes if it makes more people watch like you know

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maybe it's not a bad thing who knows it's so it should have the same it's the frenchest thing you've seen

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of course they did that yeah speaking of of course they did that i'm

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gonna talk about Floatplane for a second uh it's a wonderful platform you should

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check it out um i heard that if you uh

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if when you go to watchful plane if you pop some popcorn and like dim the lights

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a little bit and stuff that it will increase the viewership experience so i

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would i would recommend doing that the Linus tech tips channel on here has

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been going ham so if you want to check it out you've got Linus tech tips tech

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quickie and TechLinked all publishing all under the

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same freaking channel uh which i don't think was in the agreement uh when we

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first started this so but if you want to check them out

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there's there's tons of videos also there's bit wit ultra who's uploading

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fantastic stuff and tech deals who

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uploaded by far the longest video that we've had on full plane which was like

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that did it stress the system it it stressed

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me a little bit but everything was okay everything worked fine it was great we

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didn't even didn't even let didn't let us know it was coming which was actually

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cool oh yeah because i heard through another person like oh wow there's this

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super long video on the platform and i was like it worked you don't that's cool

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exactly anxiety attacks again about control it's in the past but you still

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have to experience i'm happy that transcoded and worked at

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all but yeah anyways Floatplane's great it's three bucks per creator so far

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because everyone has decided to have the same price you can check it out Floatplane.com you can uh watch videos

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they look great they sound great uh the comment section is much less cancer than

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it is on youtube things are good so yeah check out Floatplane and now for the

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rest of the sponsor stuff we've got bloody gaming uh can you say your thing

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play diamond there you go see i think that's actually pretty good i'm like oh

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pretty bad though it's like the worst person in in england

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like who sounds like that i can't do accents at all in it

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riley is really good riley's really good at that that would make sense i could see him being really good there we go

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here's my notes uh today we're talking about the bloody gaming b975

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keyboard which um isn't this one despite this being a

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bloody keyboard i don't have it here today but uh wait no this is the b945

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there we go which has the i can't even show you because under my laptop wait

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yep i can the numpad is on the other side so like this is where wasd is and

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then this is the numpad i think that's way better for gaming

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it depends on so it's actually kind of interesting especially if you don't use the numpad

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that often for like transactional data detail or

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something but you might want it for macros yeah it's an interesting idea because

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you wouldn't normally have your hand on that side of the keyboard but if you're doing like accounting and stuff you

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would much more often be full keyboard when you're gaming you're very often

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just one hand so having macro yeah you just have all those that much more real

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estate for your macros and then you've also got this added benefit of having your mouse closer more ergonomic less

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shoulder strain so yeah shoulder straightening like you're using a it's

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like you're using a poker or like a 60 keyboard but you're not a lot of people

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will go with uh 10 keyless keyboards and then get a separate 10 key so they can

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put it on the other side of their mouse so that they can be squared up

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shoulder shoulder down to mouse everything's okay and then go over for

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numpad but this is really easy too yeah just a different idea but we're talking

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about the 975 which is standard full size for those

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that don't want to switch form factors like me double shot abs keycaps

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less gamer front text kind of stuff and much more clean look

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it includes a wrist rest with two colors black and red and still has a 25 off

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deal with promo code tech tips check it out on amazon or in the links below if

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you are on youtube then next up we have the moss backpack

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black pack the black oh it is literally called the black pack yeah i wasn't

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joking i thought you just were repeatedly making the same joke you can't trust anything i say that was

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fantastic i joke too often i was like it is it is black yes it is

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in fact not on the inside yes okay this is one of my favorite

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thing about this backpack is that it's bright orange on the inside i've had

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this with a couple bags it's it's way more important than you might realize at

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the beginning because you can find anything immediately there's a power

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cable in the bottom it's right there you can see it so easily it's actually great

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i love backpacks that have bright orange insides because almost nothing else is

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ever bright orange so if you need to find anything it's super easy it's also

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reflective so you notice how it like glows a little bit just it helps i don't

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know i don't know i like it a lot don't worry about it i'm into backpacks it's a

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thing but speaking of that power cord

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you have the ability to plug your backpack in where's the external access

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bit

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i know it has it because i watched their video but i don't know here it is

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so in the side of the backpack you can pull out a power cable

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there it is this can plug directly into the wall through a side access port so

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you don't have to completely open your bag you just open where the power cable

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is then on the inside of the bag so you can charge your laptop or whatever else

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yeah doesn't it come with i thought i saw in their video that like

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came with a battery bank or something

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i don't want to say it does if it doesn't here yeah is it in the notes

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you know what it does have is a there's a waterproof pocket there's a pocket

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over here just for your water bottle so you put your water in there and it's

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completely sealed off and everything's safe and if your bag's too full you can

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pull that out and just have the water hanging on the outside that's cool i

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like that but attached to that power cable is a standard power plug for like

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your laptop or something and then two usb ports which is actually pretty sweet

449
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i like that a lot because then you can charge your laptop and you can charge

450
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,679
your mobile devices it has a pass through right here into the front so if

451
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:24,240
you have your phone lodged up in the front or something then that will work

452
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,520
um but yeah you can charge your you can charge a battery battery bank you can

453
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,559
charge your phone and your laptop all by plugging your backpack into the wall

454
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,640
without needing to take anything out of it that's super cool if you're a commuter or something like that you just

455
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:39,360
want to come home and plug the bag in you don't want to take all your stuff out that's fantastic

456
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:46,080
um they call that a reach c power adapter

457
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:49,919
pretty cool it's a 60 watt usb type-c port

458
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:53,760
for a macbook or other type-c device that is sweet

459
00:31:51,919 --> 00:32:00,159
but yeah great backpack feel free to check it out also

460
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461
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462
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463
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464
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465
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466
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467
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the sriracha bacon apparently that's quite popular um i like

468
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pretty much everything they have every one of these bags is open because

469
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yeah you just they always get eaten they do people find the box and then steal

470
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them my favorite personal one is moho but again i like literally all of their

471
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:44,320
flavors so that that works for me uh you can use offer code LTT to save 10 off

472
00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:48,240
their products which is cool um and they also have one of them i'm not sure where

473
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:52,960
it is ivan keeps eating it so it could be gone

474
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,440
but one of theirs is made with the like the hottest peppers in the world the

475
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:02,399
carolina reaper they have a reaper jerky oh yes that's pretty dang hot

476
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477
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feel free to check it out and

478
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:14,720
we're back oh we're going back what do you want to do now let's talk about alexa oops sorry i said it amazon echo

479
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:19,600
oh no so there was a family

480
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:24,960
in i believe oregon portland and they were hanging out and suddenly a

481
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:29,120
phone call came in to the husband and it was one of his employees who

482
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,399
lives in i believe seattle many many miles away and the guy was

483
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:38,720
like quick unplug all your a-l-e-x-a devices

484
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,559
you're getting hacked and what had happened was

485
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:47,200
for whatever reason the echo started recording at uh at a

486
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:51,360
time that the inhabitants of the house did not know it was recording and

487
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:56,240
recorded a big uh conversation they had then it proceeded to send

488
00:33:53,919 --> 00:34:01,039
the audio files to a random person in their contact list

489
00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:04,480
and so this guy called and uh you know the husband's like

490
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:07,600
what are you talking about you're just joking like yeah right haha good one and

491
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,800
the guy's like no you were talking about your hardwood floors like i heard it and they're like oh god

492
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:17,599
and so then they caught they contacted amazon and amazon put an engineer to

493
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,480
investigate right away and eventually a statement came out first the engineer

494
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,280
said like there will be a fix it kind of made it seem that he didn't

495
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:30,480
just brush it off as user errors like we're gonna fix something but then the

496
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,639
statement comes out and it's kind of

497
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:37,359
it's not user error but it the system acted kind of as

498
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,960
intended so here's what the where the heck are we here

499
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:46,639
here's the here's the the events what happened echo woke up due to a word in a

500
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:50,879
background conversation sounding like the hot word

501
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:56,560
then the subsequent conversation was heard as send message requests at which

502
00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:59,599
point the echo said out loud to whom

503
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,240
now if the volume was turned down they and they were crank far away then they wouldn't have heard that right

504
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,480
at which point the background conversation was interpreted as a name

505
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,680
in the customer's contact list so they kept having this conversation and the

506
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:18,079
echo is just kind of picking out where it's like i think it said send message i

507
00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:19,839
think it said to craig and then

508
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:23,680
and then it carried out that uh that request and so as unlikely as a string

509
00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:27,920
of events like that is amazon is evaluating the options to make

510
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:31,440
the case even less likely at the same time

511
00:35:28,839 --> 00:35:35,359
like oh you have you have a smart home device

512
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:39,680
yeah how often have you had it spring up and do something weird lately

513
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:43,440
seems like more than before quite a bit quite a bit so i've got my my google

514
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,520
home mini i've went into the settings and and

515
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,680
turned on the settings so that when you hail it it goes bidding

516
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,760
which is off by default normally it just would light up and i had people across

517
00:35:54,079 --> 00:36:00,400
the house they'd be trying to hail it and maybe they're not very experienced with it and they wouldn't know whether

518
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:03,920
or not it had heard them so i put on the feedback noise but that's also super

519
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,960
helpful too because if i'm watching a movie and the movie says something like

520
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:14,079
um no hugo and that sounds like yeah hey

521
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:17,119
then um i'll hear it and i can just say never mind and it'll it'll turn off

522
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,079
again but um i guess what's happening here is

523
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:26,160
the way that these that this that machine learning works uh basically

524
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,440
with this kind of thing is there's a probability

525
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,680
that when i hear something it'll say okay that's a

526
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:37,280
that's a a 0.8 out of 1. let's say there's an 80 chance that they just said

527
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:41,359
what i think they said and then there's a decision threshold so

528
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,839
the engineers will say anything greater than a 0.75 is good

529
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,760
and so that counts as we're going to call that a positive so

530
00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:53,520
you can shift that decision threshold based on the stakes of whatever you're

531
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,440
talking about so if you're talking about a spam email for example

532
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:03,440
calling something um letting in spam when it's not spam

533
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,320
that's not that high stakes because then you log into your email and you have a

534
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,160
sp you have some spam and then you're like oh that's annoying i'm just going

535
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:13,359
to delete it but calling it an email that is not spam

536
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,560
spam is can be catastrophic because then you

537
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,800
don't get back to the client or you miss an important appointment or whatever so

538
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,400
what they need to do to fix this i think is they're probably going to have to

539
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,720
adjust the decision threshold so that they get

540
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:31,119
less false or fewer false positives but then the flip side of that is you're

541
00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:34,800
going to be like it's going to be more frustrating to use hey and it's not

542
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:40,320
going to hear you when there's music playing or something like that so they just need to

543
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:44,400
dance around that yeah it's it's that's an extremely delicate

544
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:48,400
and difficult thing to do especially because there's going to be so

545
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:52,160
many different environments that it's going to be used in there's gonna be so

546
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:55,440
many different accents vocal levels some people are quiet some people are loud

547
00:37:54,160 --> 00:38:00,079
like it's they're probably gonna have to personalize it on a per user basis

548
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:03,839
just have it learn each one learn its own owner yeah that'd be cool

549
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,280
well i mean i know that the google one does that already for my voice they have

550
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,359
a voice match so it's like when i say call mom it calls my mom or plays good

551
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,880
music to me is different than good music to my wife who's just listens to dead

552
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:18,720
most and that's it strobe is a good song

553
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,880
she learned that on piano we got a piano she only learned that song

554
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,200
it was like it was not easy so it took her like

555
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,359
months that's all she played and then she figured it out and then she never played piano again i was like you need

556
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:34,320
to you would learn the song faster if you just learned easy songs first

557
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:41,599
that's fantastic um speaking of fantastic or not

558
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:45,359
essential is up for sale like the phone company it's a rumor

559
00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:50,640
it's a rumor they haven't officially announced it but it's come the story's coming from

560
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,760
you know those in the know yeah

561
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:59,440
um i hate rumors so i'm not really that interested but apparently the next phone

562
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,520
also rumor has been canceled also rumor

563
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,560
so i don't know do people care

564
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,720
a lot of people seem to care i saw a lot of comments on

565
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:12,079
the forum that were like i didn't buy it but i was interested in it and i was

566
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,920
about to buy it or i was planning on buying the next iteration

567
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:21,920
because i actually didn't really know much about the essential phone i was looking at it today and i was like

568
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,280
that thing's sick yeah it's sweet

569
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:28,240
so i actually kind of recommended it to a few different people

570
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:33,200
or at least the idea of looking into it and comparing it for their own option um

571
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,720
but i don't i don't know general public wise like how much people

572
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,599
they didn't do a whole lot of advertising they didn't have like a

573
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,800
had a lot of fanfare maybe in tech circles but for the public

574
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:50,720
not sure it looked pretty bold i mean this was the first phone with a notch

575
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:54,640
it came out before the iphone 10 and the notch is smaller it's almost

576
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,480
completely completely bezel-less it's a it's nice

577
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:04,240
looking i don't care i care samsung or apple

578
00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:07,359
only or i don't care samsung or apple only what about like

579
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:14,800
google phones that that would be i don't care or i care one of the two

580
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:19,839
the samsung or apple only option is like a weird way of me being like

581
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:24,400
i'm not really that into phones oh okay because i i i see when people

582
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,760
don't really know phones too that much they're like oh i don't know if i should

583
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,119
buy an apple or a samsung because they just don't even like the

584
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,040
Android category is seen as samsung you know what i get a lot especially when

585
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:39,359
iphone 10s were new this would be sitting on the table is

586
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:45,440
that an iphone 10 no it's not oh what is that thing it's an lg v30

587
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,280
interest lost an lg

588
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,359
i could i could have a guy and get roasted at the bar you're trying to

589
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,440
wheel some lady and get wait what got roasted

590
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,839
uh like she's like what kind of phone is that it's like oh it's an lg and she's

591
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,760
like like iphone or die but

592
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,839
like delete your tinder you have an lg

593
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,280
like i don't actually really want to have an lg but this is a sweet phone

594
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,359
like they just have quality control issues i don't really dig this is like

595
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,400
my third one just incidentally and everyone's had like the same kind of

596
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:22,640
problem like it doesn't detect my sim or something like that i really liked a g3

597
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:28,079
out of lg g3 yeah i really like that phone so most people don't care 50 51 of

598
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:32,800
people say i don't care straight up uh 80

599
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:34,160
18 of people say samsung or apple only i

600
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:39,359
expected there'd be a surprising percentage there and then 31 of people care that's

601
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:44,640
actually way more than i thought well so that's that's cool the thing with the

602
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,839
essential phone was that it was like the closest to stock Android you could

603
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:53,359
get outside of a pixel and that's awesome amazing yeah and it was way cheaper

604
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:58,000
eventually when it launched it was 700 bucks i don't think it could have competed against other flagships in that

605
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:02,319
price range but when they were struggling and they dropped it to 500 or

606
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,880
even less then it was like a hell of a deal

607
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:09,599
maybe they should have opened up with that but then they had 300 million dollars of investment they spent 100

608
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:13,359
million of it developing the phone so they just needed to sell these things

609
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:16,800
yeah central raised about 300 million dollars from several investors like you

610
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:20,920
just mentioned yeah tencent the least surprising uh

611
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:26,880
group on this list ever amazon.com and red point ventures as

612
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:30,000
well it was valued at 900 million to a

613
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,880
billion dollars a year ago

614
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:38,160
so if it is indeed for sale today it'll probably be a lot less than that i would

615
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:42,160
also assume the same um current discussions are focused on again

616
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:46,800
this is rumors current discussions are focused on a sale of the entire company

617
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:51,760
including its patent portfolio and hardware products like the original

618
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,160
smartphone an upcoming smart home device

619
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,920
and a camera attachment for the phone essentials engineering talent which

620
00:42:55,839 --> 00:43:03,040
includes those hired from apple inc and alphabet inc's

621
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:07,280
alphabet inks google would likely be a part of the deal which is probably quite

622
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:11,680
valuable do you think the the founder of Android who who made this um was his

623
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,240
name ruben andy rubin would also be in that yeah

624
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,599
i don't know or is he the one selling it and getting the heck out maybe but there

625
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,839
could be one of those like don't remember the name of it right now but it's those clauses where when the

626
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,440
company gets bought you have to like stay on in order to get the

627
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:30,000
good chunk of the money i don't know golden handcuffs yeah people call that

628
00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:33,839
not necessarily handcuffs is a that's not necessarily with mergers that's just

629
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,720
like any employee yeah like it takes four years for your shares to vest or

630
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:39,920
whatever so you kind of need to stick around before you get the real money

631
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,119
yeah golden handcuffs is used for a bunch of different stuff

632
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:48,550
just when it has to do with like i am staying basic money

633
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:56,960
uh apple and volkswagen are apparently

634
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:59,520
gonna be making driverless cars um

635
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:03,200
it's a interesting two names to be in the top the the apple making a

636
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:09,839
driverless car thing has been uh that was guest by Linus like five

637
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:11,599
years ago or something like that um

638
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:14,800
it makes a lot of sense like since they like design

639
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:19,040
the holy grail of design of industrial design is cars so

640
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,880
it's a pretty easy guess but it's been a roller coaster since they they did have

641
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:26,640
announced that they were gonna make a car that was gonna disrupt detroit and

642
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:31,200
just kick all the butt but then they scaled that back to being like

643
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:35,200
well it's actually really hard to make a car so why don't we just uh we'll make

644
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,920
the internal components and all the sensors and everything for the

645
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:44,000
self-driving and we'll partner with someone like bmw because tim cook loves

646
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:46,960
bmw or with mercedes and then those

647
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:51,520
companies were like nope because apple wanted to control all the data or

648
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,359
some some other aspect that yeah those companies they bailed so it's like

649
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:58,400
they're and then they had negotiations with negotiations with i believe lexus

650
00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:02,400
now they're on there like their fourth choice volkswagen's like yeah we'd love to work with you

651
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:06,800
and they're not even ugh

652
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:11,839
it's gonna be a like a standard volkswagen uh what is it

653
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:16,319
it's a particular model here t6 yeah t6 van

654
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,880
t6 transporter the frame wheels and chassis

655
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,880
of the t6 vans will remain but apple is replacing many components such as the

656
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:29,119
dashboard and the seats the computers and sensors and they're of course

657
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:32,640
putting in a large electric car battery now this isn't going to be a consumer

658
00:45:30,839 --> 00:45:35,760
product oh no it's not like they're just

659
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:41,280
they're making these vans and you're gonna be able to buy one this is a project for them to just start getting

660
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:46,720
their feet wet with self-driving it's gonna be a van that transports their own

661
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,520
employees between various apple campuses so they can

662
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,640
it's kind of close that's an interesting like hey if you screw up your

663
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,880
engineering project you'll kill all your friends

664
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:02,960
wow uh yeah make make sure you do it well guys um yeah that's that's

665
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:06,240
interesting i i was i was very surprised to read the like

666
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:10,800
not gonna be initially commercially available except for literally just

667
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:14,160
themselves line but that's probably a fairly sensible way of going

668
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,440
about that yeah apparently it's been quite a cluster there's no

669
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:22,960
indication right now if volkswagen will be on for anything beyond the internal

670
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:27,119
van experiment and according to the the uh article that we cited here from the

671
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,440
new york times there was a bunch of okay sorry someone in chat will they

672
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:34,640
call it the bend wagon i love it

673
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:38,800
i don't get it because the the the first topic of the show oh nice

674
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,640
i like it i think it's good they would never call

675
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:49,680
it that that doesn't make sense that joke doesn't make sense

676
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:53,280
oh i disagree it's not good they would call that like

677
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:58,720
impeccably designed engineered with purpose wagon

678
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,440
it's a feature not a bug wagon 6.

679
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:04,319
i wagon but so the the all the reporting came from

680
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,640
ex-employees and they basically said that the whole project was this brutal

681
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:12,880
executives executives leading apple's car project

682
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:17,359
had told tim cook that the shuttle would be completed by the end of 2018 but that

683
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:19,839
deadline will almost certainly be missed according to one of these people and

684
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:24,640
they also said that the project reportedly lacks a clear plan beyond the

685
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:27,040
vans including any near-term commercial goals

686
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,040
so it's hey there's a big wave

687
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,599
but we don't really know what to do steve jobs is dead

688
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:40,000
help us we're not making very good company decisions joni ive just wants to

689
00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:44,720
design fashion speaking of company decisions

690
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,920
best segue amazon bans users for too many returns

691
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,480
boom cnet article apparently you buy you keep

692
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:56,319
yeah amazon is banning customers who take advantage of its generous return

693
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:59,440
policy and closing their accounts according to the national retail

694
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:05,440
federation 11 percent of sales are returned that seems like a lot compared to my

695
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:09,760
track record of returning things and 11 of those are fraudulent which sounds

696
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:16,240
super coincidental but whatever uh they have 300 million customers customers are

697
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:19,119
not being warned of bans but amazon has reinstated the accounts of those that

698
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:23,119
appeal convincingly yeah because some a lot of people are

699
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,040
really mad because they get banned

700
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:32,160
and they're like i returned six things in the last year

701
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,599
which actually depending on how much you buy it could be a lot or not and then

702
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:39,200
each one of those things had a good reason you know like

703
00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:43,520
it sucked it didn't the things in the box weren't

704
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,960
what was expected or whatever so

705
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:52,079
but i don't blame amazon for not giving some kind of um threshold like

706
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:56,240
you need to if if you return more than x per year or if you return 15 of your

707
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,720
stuff then you're gonna get banned it's obviously they're not going to give those numbers out because then people

708
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:04,400
will just game it yeah and just and right along or turn as much stuff as

709
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,760
they can while slowly getting away with it so it makes sense that they

710
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:12,240
that they would do that or like buy a bunch of really really low ticket things they

711
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,440
don't care about and then screw with the return policy on the

712
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,640
higher stuff i don't know but yeah i don't get it it also makes

713
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,160
sense that if you like first of all they need to clean out this kind of behavior

714
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:26,000
because it's a lot of money with you talking about that many returns that

715
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:29,119
makes an impact that's millions of dollars on on the

716
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:33,440
top line or bottom line or whatever line makes sense i don't really know finance

717
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:38,000
and it also makes sense to just ban everyone in one fell swoop and then just

718
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:41,680
take on the appeals as they come in and yeah then a human can just directly

719
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:47,200
deal with it and then reinstate your account if if you're worthy of that something they

720
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:51,440
can probably do and the wording of that made it sound like they're probably

721
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,520
doing this is like if you appeal you'll probably get back in well i wrote

722
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:00,079
that okay that wasn't even copy paste well all right then but i bet you it's

723
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,440
that way anyways um if you appeal you'll probably be fine

724
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:07,599
yeah if you're if you're like yeah well i just didn't necessarily all problems

725
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:11,359
they'll probably let you back in um because most people if you ban

726
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:15,839
someone and it was like okay no that's not true

727
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,839
because of moderating on the forum people will do terrible things and then

728
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,520
you ban them and they're like what so yeah no i don't know actually

729
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:27,760
we'll see it's going to be easy for them to be to keep band the people they ban

730
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,599
who are actually offenders of this in a big way

731
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:36,079
like the people who are buying 800 things a year returning

732
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:39,520
700 things or something like that or or just like repeatedly buying a tv

733
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:44,160
and returning it so they can have yeah or some kind of other discernible pattern like that

734
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:48,319
yeah i feel like it'll have to be pretty blatant for them to like keep your ban

735
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,000
after an appeal yeah i know that they do they're pretty

736
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:56,319
savage with some other things i was talking to a friend who has an amazon um

737
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,800
he's like an amazon seller for a business as his business and

738
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:04,800
there's they're really strict about fake reviews right but what they're doing was

739
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:08,559
like they'll actually send you a product for you to review

740
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:12,400
um so you bought you bought it from them you can be a real seller a real buyer of

741
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:17,359
the product and then you get the product and then you're supposed to give a five-star review and the way that um

742
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:22,400
uh they did this was that they gave discounts to every all of those

743
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:26,960
potential reviewers because you don't want to like sell an item full price

744
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:29,440
amazon takes a large part of that um

745
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:35,119
just to get this that's like a high cost for a fake review you want to get your fake review at the cheapest level

746
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:38,800
possible so then you just if it's a 100 item you send it you give 95 off so it's

747
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,720
like five bucks and then amazon just gets a dollar or whatever and then you

748
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:46,160
get your fake review so what amazon did is they went through and they said any

749
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:51,440
item that was sold at a discount was all those reviews are gone now so you just

750
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,880
lost like a third of your reviews good

751
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,319
i don't know i think that's completely okay because the amount of like well

752
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:58,720
unless you actually just had a discount code or something like that that was

753
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:04,240
legit and all those people were like super happy yeah i tried it for the first time

754
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:08,640
it's great i i just came to amazon.com or whatever and got my product and i

755
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,200
loved it and here's a five-star review that's legit but it's gone now because

756
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:16,079
they're throwing at the baby with the bathwater yeah okay that's fair i just

757
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:19,760
something that drive drove me insane was i was i'm not going to disclose who and

758
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:25,119
largely because i don't know if they ended up actually ended up doing anything with this guy um i know the guy

759
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,839
was there but i don't know what type of association there was i don't know if

760
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:34,000
they were actually doing any business et cetera et cetera so i'm not going to say the company name but one year at ces i

761
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:37,359
went to a company's hotel suite to film a video and there was a dude there and

762
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:42,559
he was hanging out and i was waiting for my meeting so i was just like hey let's let's talk i'm i'm

763
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:45,599
we're both overtired we're at ces let's chat about stuff just asked him what he

764
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:50,960
did he was one of the uh

765
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,800
like business acquisition guys for a company that post fake reviews oh on

766
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:59,200
amazon there's a whole giant company there's a

767
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:02,800
huge industry of like click farms all people do all days like create

768
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,839
accounts and then like pages he was like essentially one of those guys and i

769
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,079
remember like i may have not been the nicest person

770
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:19,280
you are a dirt you are a single unit of dirt

771
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,760
um because it kind of pissed me off but like these are absolutely a thing oh

772
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:28,559
yeah uh they're running around ces with badges like this was this was yeah this

773
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:31,839
is a pretty big industry so i'm very happy that they're showing it i think

774
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:36,160
that in some countries it's like a large sector just like tourism is a big sector

775
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:40,319
in some countries yeah click farms is like a big deal in

776
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,280
individual particular countries yeah just like scams are in some parts of

777
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,480
western africa it's like we're all we're all making money just

778
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,480
scamming north america those phone numbers that call you and

779
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:54,079
try to get your banking info hackerville hackerville hackerville is an

780
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:56,720
interesting thing anyways the show is over

781
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:03,200
oh boom see ya later

782
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:08,640
see you never whatever guys i'll see you next week bye uh

783
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,839
can i see what we're doing next week i don't know

784
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:17,839
better just probably you better just sign up for a plot flame club

785
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:21,760
and then get early access to whatever it is we're doing on plot plane club

786
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:29,179
yes all right bye guys we're filming skyrim